1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: The Giants Total Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,519 Speaker 1: the official bank of the New York Giants. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: It's time to get inside the Giants huddle on Giants 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: dot Com. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: We go here, we go on the Giants. Let him there, 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: let's go part of the Giants Podcast network. All right, 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: that's our final edition of our player interview series on 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: the Giants Total Podcast. It's safeties and a lot of 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: guys to talk to here because we know who one 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: starughter is. That Xavier McKinney. He's gonna be our final 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: interview in this podcast to make sure you stay till 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the end. We're also gonna talk to new edition Bobby McCain, 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: who will lead off with him. He's also a slot corner, 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: so I put him first. Then we're gonna have Dame Belton, 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: Jason Pinnock, Javarius Owens, the rookie Nick McCleod who's converting 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: from corner, will be fifth, and then again Xavier McKinnon 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: will be last year. Good conversation about the individual players, 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: how Wink uses the safeties in the defense, and a 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: lot more coming your way on this episode of The 20 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Giants Total Podcast. Let's lead off with New Edition Bobby McCain. 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Now we're joined by Giants defensive back Bobby McCain. So 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call you a corner of a safety. 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: I feel like you're kind of dip your foot in 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: both sides of the pool there. So what has it 25 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: been like with Wink who likes to run a quote 26 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: unquote positionless defense anyway? And how do you foresee what 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: your role is going to be? Like? How was he 28 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: talking about how he's gonna use it this year? 29 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: Wing's been great, you know, just understanding, learning the playbook, 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: getting it all down throughout the spring is going to help. 31 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I'm a I'm a player that 32 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: can be used anyway and in every safety at Nickel corner, 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: wherever you want to put me, and you know I'll succeed. 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: So and he knows, and uh, you know, I'm excited 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: to see who he has in store. 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, if Giant fans they played Washington 37 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: a bunch, right, they they've seen you, They've seen you 38 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: play safety, been in the slot a ton. Are you 39 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: more comfortable on either spot or basically wherever the teen 40 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: neger you can go? 41 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Wherever I can do both. I feel comfortable at both 42 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: playing slot for my first five years and then moving 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: to safety year six through seven, year six and seven, 44 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: and then going back to the slot for the Washington 45 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: last year because they didn't really have one. You know, 46 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: I like to be able to adjust, and that's what 47 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: I've done so far in my career. 48 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Slots a tough position to play, right, I mean, you 49 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: have to be able to do everything. You got to 50 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: be able to blitch, You gotta be able to set 51 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the edge of the run, game cover two way goes. 52 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: What is it about your game and your ability to 53 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: play the slot that makes you app for that position? 54 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: Just being smart, being physical, those are two things that 55 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to you know, you gotta be ald 56 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: run all day. You gotta be able to tackle well. 57 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: So you know, I try to take heat to those 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: things and try to build my best foot four. 59 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: What is like playing with Arian McKinney back there. 60 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: Oh he's a good player, man, really smart, good player, 61 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: bright player. He's got a really bright future. Just keep 62 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: it up and like I tell him all the time, 63 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: just keep going man, and you know there's no ceiling. 64 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: You've been the legue while I'm sure you're very familiar 65 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: with wings defense before you got here. What has the 66 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: reality been of playing for him in this system versus 67 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: what your expectations were heading into it. 68 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know him personally, but I will 69 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: say that they're stand up her, stand up guy, stand 70 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: up man, and tell you the truth defensively, just you 71 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: know you you're gonna you're gonna get a lot of 72 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: different looks from him, and you know, hopefully we can 73 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: you know, the mess the timing up with the quarterback 74 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: or just you know, sometimes it's just that that quick 75 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: little second that that gets you that big play. 76 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: What's the benefits and the challenges of a scheme that 77 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: blitz as much as he does and puts frankly corners 78 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: on islands a lot, But you know he's gonna get 79 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: on the quarterback too, So how does that kind. 80 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: Of It's just that you know, you know, and the 81 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: defensive backfield, you know you're gonna be one on one 82 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: a lot, maybe zero a lot, and but you know 83 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: that the ball's got to come out because the guys 84 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: we have upfront, man, they're incredible, and especially with the 85 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: pressures and the blitzers and everything. So that would be 86 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: I guess the challenges and the benefits would be that, 87 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: I mean kind of the same. The ball has to 88 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: come out and you know you can make plays on 89 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: the football because you know that, and you know those 90 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: guys up front are gonna rest their tails off and 91 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: go get it. 92 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: I imagine. And final question that kind of and you talked 93 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: about being a smart player playing the slot right, like, 94 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: as a smart player in this defense, if you have 95 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: a larger understanding of what the play is and what 96 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to do, that probably gives you a bit 97 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: of advantage of being able to play your guy and 98 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: play your scheme in that particular play the correct way. 99 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: Right, yes, correct. Just knowing the ins and outs of 100 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: not only the defense, but just of you know the 101 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: guy next to you. Really that's really really knowing where 102 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: your help is, Knowing where people are going to be. 103 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: That'll always help. And you know, because sometimes you may 104 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 3: have inside leverage, but there's a guy standing inside that 105 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: you don't have to have inside leverage and he's running 106 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: outbreaking route. So just understanding those things and getting those 107 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: details down is what the springs really for. 108 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: Bob. 109 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: Be good stuff, man, appreciate the time, Nice me and 110 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: you man. 111 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: Nice to be sure now. 112 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: We're joined by Giant safety Dan Belton. Dane, how are 113 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: you man? 114 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing well? How about yourself? 115 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Good? That same question I asked Cordell, I'm gonna ask 116 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: you when you take that mirror and reflect it back 117 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: on on your rookie year, what's your takeaway? 118 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: It was a great starting point, you know, I felt 119 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: like I got valuable reps, a good amount, great learner 120 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: and just the biggest part and need to stay healthy. 121 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: Just trying to get back from there and build on 122 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: what I did last year. 123 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got hurt in the preseason right during camp. 124 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: You came back, but then stuff just kind of kept 125 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: coming up. It seemed like, right, how how frustrating was 126 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: that when you thought you were back and you were 127 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: good and then it just kept popping up again. 128 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really frustrating, and just knowing that, you know, 129 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: first when I heard it, just being not being able 130 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: to practice and participate. Right when you get to the league, 131 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: you know, you're trying to make your footprint, and then 132 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: you know, get into where I think I'm back, and 133 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: then I'm continue to injured re injury the same thing, 134 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: and it's impacted my play was It was definitely frustrating, 135 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: but you know, you got you got to understand, you know, 136 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: that's how the game is, and you just got to 137 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: focus on getting healthy and getting back to our I 138 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 2: know I can play. 139 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: You expect training camps here. You're gonna be full go 140 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: and ready to roll. 141 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, hundred percent, all right? 142 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: What is wink talk to you about your role this year? 143 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Obviously Julian's not here anymore. Is that opens up a 144 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: lot of snaps, and Julian's a guy that can do 145 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: a lot of different things the same way you can. 146 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: You've played up, you've played down, you've played slot, You've 147 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: played all over the place. So what does you talk 148 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: to you about what your role might be as a 149 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: safety in this defense? 150 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: Yea, you know there's an open battle right now for 151 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: the other safety spot, but also the way we use 152 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: safeties in this defense. You know, a dime blitzing a lot, 153 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: so you know there's definite I'm going to be rolls 154 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: that a lot of us are going to take on, 155 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: and you just go from there and earn what we 156 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, which how you're playing time. 157 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Basically from the experience you did have on the field 158 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: as a rookie, what were some of the things heading 159 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: into the offseason that you really want to go into 160 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the workshop and try to get better at. 161 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: You just continue working on angles. You know, this game 162 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: is a game of angles, so especially at the middle 163 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: of the field. You know, continue to work on tackling 164 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: and understanding in the offensive tendencies and offensive strategies, especially 165 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: in the box, you know, with different pools and plunges 166 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: and things like that. So just continue to build my 167 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: mental game up and get smarter in that aspect and 168 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: carry it over to the field. 169 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Are you more comfortable either deep or close to the 170 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage at this point? 171 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm comfortable both. 172 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: You know. 173 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I have a body that can you know, 174 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: play inside and make tackles and things like that. But 175 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: also you know, with my bass skills and range in 176 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: the back end, so I think I can do whatever 177 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: the defense calls and whatever week wants me. 178 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: To Even know, the veteran in your room and Bobby 179 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: McCain this year is what is he kind of passed 180 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: on to you, you know in the meetings with him, 181 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: is he has so much experience in the league. 182 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's passed on a lot to me personally, you know, 183 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: sitting next to him in our defensive back meeting, just 184 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: picking his brain on just NFL tendencies. You know, I'm 185 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: helping him learn the defense and he's helping me understand, 186 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of things just football wise. So 187 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: being able to pick his brain and getting knowledge from 188 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: him is huge for me and my growth. 189 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: How does it help you learn the defense? Trying to 190 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: explain it to new guys in the room, You know 191 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? 192 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: It definitely helps a lot. You know, they always tell 193 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: you if you can teach someone else, that's how you 194 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: know you know the defense. So just being able to 195 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, help the young guys too as well as 196 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: well as Bobby, and just being able to spit the 197 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: information back just confirms that I know it and how 198 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: quickly I can recall the information. It's just going to 199 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: help me on the field. 200 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: And then finally, where do you see that added experience 201 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: in your second year? Show up on the field when 202 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: we watch you in camp, in preseason games and regular 203 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: season games, and where am I going to say? Oh, well, 204 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: maybe in his rookie year, Dame wouldn't have made that play, 205 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: but this year he does because he just has gotten better. 206 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's showing up already in the small 207 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: things that I'm able to do right now as I'm rehabbing, 208 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: just being quicker seeing things, you know, seeing like different 209 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: run schemes, seeing different you know, pass routes, and matching 210 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: quickly quicker. I would say, just this year is just 211 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: being able to show quicker on different things and having 212 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: more of a fast twitch because I'm understanding more. 213 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Jane, good stuff. 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Are 222 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 5: you ready for all that life brings? 223 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Now we're joined by a Giant safety Jason Panna. Jason, 224 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: how are you man? I'm so I'm you know you're 225 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: in a battle here for the starting safety spot because 226 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: David McKinney has an open field a bunch of guys 227 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: in competing for the spot. How you've dealt mentally with 228 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: not being able to kind of doing all the seven 229 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: on seven stuff because your rehaben during the spring. Has 230 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: that been tough for you a little bit? 231 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 6: It's been tough, But I'm I'm a big person of 232 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 6: controlling what you can control. You know, that's not my thing. 233 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 6: I'm going through rehabing and doing my thing and getting right. 234 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 6: But you know, camp, you know, camp is that time 235 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 6: you know to kind of separate yourself and show everybody 236 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 6: what you can do. 237 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then always say though that no jobs are 238 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: one or lost here in the spring, exact, They're gonna 239 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: be one and loss in the summer, right exactly. So 240 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: you're a guy that came in late last year, right, 241 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: you weren't here the whole, You didn't have all the 242 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: setup and everything. How much better are you now in 243 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: this system knowing what they need from you now than 244 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: when you were basically trying to figure things out as 245 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: you were trying to play last year, right? 246 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: Right? 247 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, when you first come in, you kind of just 248 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 6: you want to get things right. You know, it ain't 249 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 6: not mess up, right, there's no personalized things you're not 250 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 6: really showing much of, like you know who you are 251 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 6: as a player to a certain extent and to you know, 252 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: get the ex's and those down. But yeah, it's been great, man, 253 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 6: it's been great. It's been a great transition being able 254 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 6: to really be around the building, learn to match a 255 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 6: name in the face together finally, so's been a lot 256 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 6: of comfort. 257 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Now is this a fun system for safety? You know? 258 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: Last year you guys had such a big room and 259 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: you have four or five safeties on the field the 260 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: same time, too deep one of the slot to a linebacker. 261 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: Is that a fun thing where you sure, it's a 262 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of work too, where you have to know how 263 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: to do all these different things, but you're asked to 264 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: play so many different roles. 265 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: Right, you kind of hit it right for me. It's 266 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: a lot of work. So it forces you to learn 267 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 6: a lot, you know, and I love that. I'm a sponge. 268 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 6: I like to soak it up from you know, from 269 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 6: the front to the back, you know, the knowledge of 270 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 6: the game. So it's it's it's a very fun system 271 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 6: to play as a safety. You go blitzing Carol, it's 272 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 6: a lot. Yeah, middle thirds the man to you never 273 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 6: know what you're gonna be doing, you know, and then 274 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: sometimes it's by a week. 275 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: So what do you like to do the most? 276 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: Blitz? 277 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 6: I like them blitz. I like the blitz, and I 278 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 6: like to play man. I was the corner of my 279 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: whole life. 280 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 281 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 6: You know, once you kind of convert to these corners 282 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 6: that convert the safety, it's like they kind of forget 283 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: you play man your whole life. So you know, I 284 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 6: love to still show that. 285 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, And I was talking to a Dory too, 286 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: and he just talked talked into us about how important 287 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: is to just understand your leverage and things like that 288 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: in this defense, because they do put you guys on islands, right, Like, 289 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: they don't make it easy on you, but they do 290 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: teach you depending on the play, if you just play 291 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: it a certain way, you might give up a catch. 292 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: But the really bad stuff is not gonna happen. I 293 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: thought you guys last year did a great job. You 294 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: only despite the fact that so many guys running in 295 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: and outand different players, the really bad stuff didn't really 296 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: seem to happen that often, right. 297 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 6: And that's a testimony to like our group. You know, 298 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 6: a lot of player led things, whether that's extra meetings, 299 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 6: extra walkthroughs, and that minimizes the big plays. 300 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, are you looking forward to playing that AFC 301 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: East again this year? You're gonna be back playing that division? 302 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: Man? 303 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 6: Am I you know everybody asking me that? 304 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: Man? 305 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 6: Of course, of course it's circled a few times on 306 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 6: my calendar. But yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to get 307 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 6: back in there and get my get. 308 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: Back and I should have before we say goodbye. You 309 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: expect day one training game. You should be full go, 310 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: ready to roll. 311 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, good. 312 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: To see it, man, Jason, Thanks man, look forward to it, man, 313 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Now we're joined by a Giant's rookie 314 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: safety Gavarius Owens. Jamarius, how are you, man? 315 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 7: I'm good, man, blessed. How you doing? 316 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Nice to meet you, Yes, sir, all right, 317 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: So talk about what your experience has been so far 318 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: as an NFL rookie. I know you show you a 319 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of expectations of finally getting into the NFL. Has 320 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: it been like you thought it was gonna be? 321 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 7: Most deuff It's been a lot of what I thought, 322 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 7: but a lot of difference as well. You know, it's 323 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 7: just really just a blessing first and foremost, you know, 324 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 7: just getting around the guys and just being a part 325 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 7: of this great organization. You know, just taking that in 326 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 7: every day is just like wow, who would the thought. So, 327 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 7: you know, just coming in being able to practice every day, 328 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 7: clean up stuff and get better and just you know, 329 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 7: take the coaching and stuff like that has been you know, 330 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 7: a great thing for me in my process going along 331 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 7: the way. You know, I got some great coaches here, 332 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 7: Coach Rome, coach and coach cheer As my position coaches, 333 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 7: you know, helping me along the way and just working 334 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 7: on things things to get better. Being in the playbook, 335 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 7: you know, and like coming from college to the NFL. 336 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 7: You know, it's a lot of things you don't realize 337 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 7: as far as just like little things that make make 338 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 7: your game a little better, make instinct show and stuff 339 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 7: like that. They've been teaching me really getting me prepared 340 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 7: in ways like that. So I'm just very grateful to 341 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 7: be here right now now. 342 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: Washington have spring practice OTAs, you're getting a hand on 343 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: the football a little bit now. And if you watch 344 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: and that, if you watch your tape it to Houston, 345 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: that should not be a surprise. You did a good 346 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: job in coverage there too. So how has that transition 347 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: been the type of coverage they asked you to play 348 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: at Houston compared to what Wink has you doing here? 349 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: How similar is it? How different is it? 350 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Uh? 351 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, it's just a lot a lot of the same. 352 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 7: You know, we played We played a lot of Man 353 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 7: at Houston as well, and things like that. Sean one 354 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 7: how being able to do different things being the toolbox guy. 355 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 7: So you know, I definitely feel like I'm enjoying the transitioning. 356 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 7: Like I said, you know, I got some great coaches 357 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 7: that's giving me a lot of tips and just they're 358 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 7: real discipline and detailed in their approach. So you know 359 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 7: that helps my game be you know, mirror the same thing. 360 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 7: So you know, I'm very thankful for the coaches that's here. 361 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 7: They've helped me, you know, elevate, elevate my game to 362 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 7: the next level. You know, we're only going to try 363 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 7: to keep getting better and better each and every day, 364 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 7: so you know, I think it's a lot of good 365 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 7: stuff to come in the future. 366 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: And they move their safeties around here too, like it's 367 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: not like, oh yeah, you're gonna be the deep safety. No, no, No, 368 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: you got to be deep safety, you gotta be box safety, 369 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be slock corner. So they're gonna have you 370 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. How has it been 371 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: trying to learn all those different positions kind of at 372 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the same time. 373 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, certain, just coming in I feel like that's the 374 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 7: thing that I prided myself on, you know, being able 375 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 7: to play in the post play play Man the Man, 376 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 7: bump and run and uh, you know, zone coverage fall 377 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 7: off and things like that, and like you said, they 378 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 7: allow their safties to do everything. You know, they speak 379 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 7: very highly of their safeties and you know it's it's 380 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 7: like a blessing. But you got to be up to 381 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 7: the challenge every day. So you know, it's just something 382 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 7: to get better at. You know, if if you're lacking 383 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 7: in anything, they're definitely gonna get you better in that 384 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 7: in that category. So it's just like a it's a 385 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 7: why not. That's kind of the system you kind of 386 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 7: want to be in. So you're not hindering your gaming 387 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 7: any way. You know, you're always elevating because there's always things. 388 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 7: You know, it's players that we can work on, so 389 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 7: them making us do everything, then that's how you get 390 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 7: better at everything every day, you know. So and with 391 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 7: the coaching willing and like wanting you to do that 392 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 7: is just even even more so just going to tempo 393 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 7: to growth. 394 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: So no, of course, hundred percent. You know, we talked 395 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: about coverage a lot. Let's talk about safeties in the 396 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: running game because either whether you want to scrimmage and 397 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: if you're in the slot, you're setting the edge or 398 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: even worse in the last line of defense if you 399 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: don't make that tash game over. Yeah, so talk about 400 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: obviously you haven't going to do that yet in the 401 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: spring because there's no contact or anything, but that your 402 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: game coming from college to the pros. In terms of tackling, 403 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: where do you think you're at? 404 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 7: That's ah, you know, I feel like tackling is just 405 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 7: a mentality. You have to be a willing tackler, you know, 406 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 7: to put your going each and every down and be 407 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 7: willing to put your face on the guy. So, you know, 408 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 7: and that's another thing, like I said, Coach rom and them, 409 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 7: they they preach and stuff, you know, like it's a 410 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 7: blessing be able to play safety, but it's also kind 411 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 7: of a curse if you look at it, because you know, 412 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 7: like you said, the D line or anybody else mess up, 413 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 7: you know they got the next level of defense and 414 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 7: everything you know in the back end, you know you're 415 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 7: a mistake show up on the scoreboard. So you know 416 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 7: it's just something you got to be extra detailed and 417 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 7: dowed in, you know, so everything you can flow together. So, 418 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 7: like I said, just being just being willing and able. 419 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 7: I feel like at each and every level of tackling 420 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 7: is tackling. You know, either you want to or you don't. 421 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 7: But of course it's things you can clean up as 422 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 7: far as angles to the balls and uh you know, 423 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 7: near foot in your shoulder and things like that, squeezing 424 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 7: and squeezing the air out the guy and all that. 425 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 7: So we run a lot of tackling jills. They love 426 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 7: physical safeties that can come down and tackle and feel 427 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 7: feel the run game. I think that's winks whole personnel 428 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 7: just being physical and Honger as a defense. So you know, 429 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 7: I feel like we're definitely gonna be able to showcase 430 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 7: that this year. 431 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you told about angles, that's key, right, And then 432 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: also you know you're coming down, so if you're at 433 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: that deep safety spot, you're coming down so hard you 434 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: have to take the right angle then throttle down right 435 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: because if you're coming too fast, the guy's gonna get 436 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: around you every time. So it's a matter of kind 437 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: of funding that balance between those three things. 438 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 7: Right, But truly, you got to you gotta be an 439 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 7: athlete at the end of the day. You know, great hips, mobility, 440 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 7: balance and things like that, and that's just stuff you 441 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 7: know you work on in the weight room. Think we 442 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 7: have a great extreense to have to get those things done, 443 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 7: so you know it probably gonna be in a good spot. 444 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: All right. Finally, what are your ming goals for your 445 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: rookie year here as we head towards training camp. 446 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, sir, just to come in and contribute it anyway 447 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 7: I can, you know, whatever coach asking me. You know, 448 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 7: I'm ready to step up to that level of expectation 449 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 7: and I think I'll rise from it just with the 450 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 7: great coaching staff that we have and also the guys 451 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 7: in the room. You know, there's no like you know, 452 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 7: you kind of get in and they kind of say 453 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 7: the NFL is more you know, business like than usual. 454 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 7: But you know, these guys they come in and whether 455 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 7: they're vet rookie, two year, second year guy, that everybody's 456 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 7: willing to help each other. You know, it's no egos, 457 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 7: no animosity or anything. So, you know, I feel like 458 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 7: it's a great learning environment. So I feel like I'll 459 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 7: be able to grow a lot this this first year. 460 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Great man, nice being. You are such Iv'm looking forward 461 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: to seeing on the field in the summer. 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Nick McLeod, Nick, 472 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: how are you man? 473 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: I'm doing good? How you doing well? 474 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: Let's start there. Yeah, you've been dipping your foot into 475 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: the safety world a little bit. Now, how's that going. 476 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 4: I mean, it's been going good. Just trying to learn, 477 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's kind of hard this 478 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: time of year because how to the rules is set 479 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: up with OTAs and everything, but just just trying to 480 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: learn and get some experience at some different spot. So 481 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: it's been good. 482 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: And look, wings defense is positionless. We talk about this 483 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: all the time, right, so I'm sure a lot of 484 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: the stuff is probably not unfamiliar to you. 485 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: Oh, it's a little different, for sure, but like you said, 486 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: I definitely played a little bit everywhere last year too, 487 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: so that kind of helped. But it's definitely a little different, 488 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: just moving I would say, from front and back on 489 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: terms of corner to safety. But it's definitely a little different. 490 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: But different is not always bad, so I guess we'll 491 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: see how it goes. 492 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you're the primary outside starting quarterback for 493 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: a lot of the year last year, right, and now 494 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: you're kind of in the middle of the field. I 495 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: seen your line up in the slot too, right in 496 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: some of those seven on seven. So that was that 497 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: just a huge technique adjustment for you this offseason. Was 498 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: that kind of your big focus on everything you did, 499 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: learning those different techniques to play off rather than on 500 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: the ball outside. 501 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so, definitely a huge adjustment, and 502 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 4: like I said, it's definitely a little tougher this time 503 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: of year with the rules and everything, ohtas, but it's 504 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: been good, so we'll see how it takes me into 505 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: the season. 506 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: Is this something told you was possible at the end 507 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: of last year? So you kind of came in thinking 508 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: this might be a possibility. 509 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: Not necessarily telling me so much at the end of 510 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: last year, but really, like like I said, I bounced well, 511 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: not really bounced around. I played a lot of different 512 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: positions last year. So just coming into this year, I 513 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 4: know it could be a possibility, but nothing really at 514 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: the end of the year. 515 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: So as you've been working on it, what have been 516 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: some of the biggest challenges for you Getting used to 517 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: some of the new roles and some of the new 518 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: techniques you've had to play in that. 519 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: Song, Just trying to slow everything down in terms of 520 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: the game and everything like that, because when you're a 521 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: corner in the slide of Nicolas, it's always a hands 522 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: on fight, like you fight and fight fighting, but when 523 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 4: you step back, you kind of got to slow everything 524 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: down a little bit. 525 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: So how much of a help is Bobby McCain ben 526 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: for you as someone that is literally has done the 527 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: stuff you're talking about for a very long time. 528 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: Definitely a huge heuble. Like I was saying, just he 529 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 4: just helped me like slow everything down terms of the 530 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: game and stuff like that, because like I said, I 531 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: always want to be aggressive one down in the fight 532 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: with somebody, you know what I'm saying. But just having Bobby, 533 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, just helping me slow everything down. 534 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: He's been huge for sure. 535 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: Nick, good stuff, man. We appreciate your times. Thank you, 536 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Good luck. Now we're joined by Giant safetyes. 537 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: Avery McKinneys. 538 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 8: Avery, all right, man, I'm doing well man. How you doing. 539 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's good. It's good to see. I 540 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: guess first let's start here. Let's get to that of 541 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: the way completely healthy, hand good, no worries. Are you 542 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: still doing any work on it or you're like back 543 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: to normal? Yeah. 544 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 8: I think work is always going to continue to be 545 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 8: a thing that's just for anything, a part of your body, 546 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 8: part of the game that we play. We always gonna 547 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 8: have to work on my body, so sure it's always 548 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 8: gonna be a part of what I do, and just 549 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 8: making sure that it's always up to par and ready 550 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 8: to go. 551 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: So you got to be happy it's behind you though, 552 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: exactly exactly all right, and now you're working with a 553 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: bunch of new safeties. Julian unfortunately moved on, and you're 554 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: familiar with Jason pinocchi Is last year, familiar with Dan Belton, 555 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Bobby mccaine's and new face Nick mclough's been doing a 556 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: little bit of safety stuff too, right, So what has 557 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: it been like working with really a series of different 558 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: guys next to you during spring practice? 559 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 8: It's been good, I think, you know right now, I 560 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 8: haven't been able to play it alongside of JP and 561 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 8: Danes just because they were having but all the other 562 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 8: guys have been great, just kind of building that chemistry 563 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 8: within each other. I think we, you know, we've built 564 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 8: a great bond. So whenever it doesn't matter who who's 565 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 8: ever out there at the other spot, you know where 566 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 8: it's easy to click in and we're pretty much on 567 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 8: the same pace. So it's been fun. It's been the 568 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 8: experience and you know, we enjoying it. Taking the day 569 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 8: by day. 570 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: The role of the safety in last year's defense was fun. 571 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: You guys got to do a lot of different stuff 572 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: you would have you would four safeties on the field, 573 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: sometimes safeties playing linebacker, safety is playing slot. Different guys 574 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: in the room this year, without giving away secrets, do 575 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: you expect the same type of variety as we saw 576 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: last year in terms of how they're using how personnel. 577 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think honestly, I think our room as a 578 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 8: as a whole is better. I think we are a 579 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 8: lot more versatile than what we were. You know, I 580 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 8: think we got a lot of guys that could play 581 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 8: different spots. You know, we got a lot of smart 582 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 8: guys kind of how we have last year. So it's 583 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 8: just being in that system for a second year, guys 584 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 8: are more comfortable. So obviously that'll be another good thing 585 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 8: added on. So I think it'll be fun and I think, 586 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 8: you know, we're gonna be real versatile how we play. 587 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: Value of vet like Bobby McCain, who's basically been a 588 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: starting slot, he's been a starting safety, you know, and 589 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: he just knows what he's doing. 590 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think just adding him to the room has 591 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 8: been great. Obviously, he's a VET, true VET, so he's 592 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 8: played a lot of ball, He's played a lot of 593 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 8: good ball at that and you know, we have a 594 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 8: lot of respect for him. So whenever we had those 595 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 8: questions or you know, really whatever it is that we 596 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 8: need or feel like we need to ask, you know, 597 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 8: that's what we go to. That's who we ask. So 598 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 8: you know, he's been great just having him out there 599 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 8: on the field. Obviously he knows the system, so you know, 600 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 8: he's he's pretty familiar with it and he's smart. So 601 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 8: it's always good when you got a guy that's a VET. Smart. 602 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 8: VET makes plays, easy to play with, easy to talk to. 603 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 8: So it's been fun just having them. 604 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: For you personally, what are your main goals this year? 605 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Where are you trying to kind of take that next 606 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: jump going into the final year your Roorkie deal. 607 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think for me personally, obviously, I want to 608 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 8: be a pro bowler. I think that's probably my number 609 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 8: one goal going into this year. I want to be 610 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 8: all pro as well. So I got some I got 611 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 8: some goals that I want to accomplish, some things that 612 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 8: I want to do. So I think it's gonna be. 613 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 8: It's gonna be fun, you know. I think with you know, 614 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 8: the type of defense that we play, and you know, 615 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 8: with Wink being our d C, I think it's gonna 616 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 8: be it's gonna be a lot of fun and I 617 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 8: think I'm gonna have a good chance to be able 618 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 8: to go, you know, reach that goal. 619 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: Where are there more plays to be had playing that 620 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: center field role or creeping up close to that line 621 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: of scrimmage in that's in that slot game everywhere? 622 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 8: Honestly, uh, you know, for me and I can make 623 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 8: plays you know, wherever on the field, don't matter if blissen, 624 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 8: whether it's in the slot or in the deep part 625 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 8: of the field. So pride myself and making sure that 626 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 8: you know, I'm I'm you know, keyed into east spot 627 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 8: and I that I know kind of what's going on 628 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 8: east spot and being able to make different plays. So, 629 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 8: like I said, it's gonna be a fun, fun year. 630 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Finally, last question, I know a lot of guys can 631 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of feel it coming sometimes second year in the defense, 632 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: fourth year in the NFL, coming off the injury. You 633 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: don't have to you know, actually focus on football, the 634 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: soft so you have to worry about anything else. Do 635 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: you feel like in your bones like the breakout coming? 636 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: Do you do you do you like envisioning it? Do 637 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: you see how it's gonna happen in front of you? 638 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: Just in terms of you know, making all those plays. 639 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: Getting your hands on the football stuff like that. 640 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: I don't think there's no breakout. You know, I've already 641 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 8: shown that I could play at a high level already. 642 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 8: Now you're good because I hear it, you know sometimes 643 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 8: here and there. But there's no breakout. You know, it's 644 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 8: just gonna be another one of those years where I 645 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 8: play how. I know that that I'm capable of playing 646 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 8: that I played like before, And I said, this is 647 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 8: gonna be fun to go out there and just get 648 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 8: back to, you know, doing what I was doing before. 649 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: Zay, good stuff, man, Yes, sir man, Yes, sir. We 650 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: thanks Avery McKinney. Good conversation with him, and you can 651 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: tell he's confident about the way he's played. He let 652 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: me know about it too, which was good. I like 653 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: that we went back and forth a little bit, had 654 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: a good talk, good conversation, and look, I do think 655 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: and I think breakout was probably the wrong word to use, 656 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: like I said to him in the interview, but I 657 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: think he's a guy that can really have some more 658 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: ball production this year than he's had the last couple 659 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: of years, which could be huge for him and the 660 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: Giants defense as he heads into his contract year. I 661 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: thought Bobby McCain was really good the VET talking about 662 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: what he can do in the system, and then Dave 663 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Belton and Pinnock two guys that are kind of coming 664 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: on strong here. And then Nick McLeod converting from corner 665 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: to Safety, another really fun talk talking about how he 666 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: can impact the Giants defense. Thank you so much for 667 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: joining us on the Giants Little Podcast. We'll see you 668 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: next time.