1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back. It is the Late 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast for the morning of January fourteenth, the 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one, recording a little 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: bit later in the morning the normal. So if you 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: get it in your fee a little bit later than normal, 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: don't blame Jordan, blame me. Now he can't get it 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: to you until like Friday. Well then we have a 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: separate discussion. But that's never been a problem with producer Jordan, 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: So it's my bad. This morning, we had a lot 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: going on. Also, it may sound like the world is 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: ending outside of the recording studio here, and it's not 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: because it actually is. Although it's been touching go in 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Nashville here lately. I'll grant you that it's because the 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: fine folks here have decided that now is the perfect 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: time to pressure wash the entire complex. So that's what's 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: going on outside. They're not actually building a bridge over 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the roof of this place. They're just pressure washing. I 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to sound like. Again, Producer 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Jordan can hopefully work his magic. This is a Q 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: and A format. We do it on Tuesday, we do 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: it on Thursday. It's all college football wall to wall 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: and it is all driven by you. Now, It's been 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: a weird last three weeks or so. We had a 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: combination of the Christmas vacation, we had New Year's and 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Bowl games. I had COVID, so we really have been 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of off schedule and off kilter. I've still been 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: doing the podcast, but a lot of your questions have 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: slipped through the cracks, which I hate to let happen. 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: So if you haven't already gotten yours answer and it 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: wasn't time sensitive, just go ahead and start filling the 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: inbox again because I'm loading up the queue again and 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: if I missed it the first time, I'll get to 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: it this time. Josh Pait seven zero six at gmail 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: dot com. Also on Twitter at late Kickjosh, you can 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: DM me there. I encourage you to follow me there anyway, 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: because we have a lot of fun speaking of which 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm about to dive in with the need to address 38 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: a little something I put on there the other night. 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: So we do Late Kick live on the twenty four 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to seven Sports YouTube channel, and I did a show 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: the other night. It was the first one that we 42 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: were back in the studio live for here in Nashville. 43 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: And so I had a lot to say, and I 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: didn't plan on it, but I kind of went down 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: the road of addressing some things that I'm addressing because 46 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: you bring it up all the time. I read every 47 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: single one of your emails. I read every single one 48 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: of your dms, and so I may not always have 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: time to answer, but I read them. And one of 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: the most common and popular themes that you guys expressed 51 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: to me this entire college football season is how tired 52 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: you've grown of some of the voices in this industry, 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: some of the very amplified voices in the business that 54 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: you don't think have the best interest of the sport 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: itself at the forefront of their motivation, and you don't 56 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: think they have the betterment of the players at the 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: forefront of their motivation. You really just think they're here 58 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: to sow, discord chaos, whatever the case may be, whether 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you're right or wrong now, in a lot of those cases, 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: I feel the same way you do. You guys share 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: my sentiment on that. So I went on the show 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: and talked about it the other night. I never mentioned 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: a single name, I never mentioned a single organization. I 64 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: never mentioned a single topic or issue. I kept it 65 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: intentionally as generic as possible, because here's what I knew 66 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: would happen. I knew, as is the case in life, 67 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: a hit dog would bark the loudest. You don't have 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: to bring up people's names. They're going to project the 69 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: preconceived notions on what you say, and then they're just 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: going to assume and fill in the rest with what 71 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: they think they heard, even though it's not what you 72 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: actually said. And so sure enough, I put that clip 73 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: up the other night. All I said was, if you're 74 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: tired of negative energy and around the sport that you 75 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: really don't think accurately portrays what the sport is, just 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: don't listen to it. Just turn away, just redirect your attention. 77 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: I didn't call for anyone to be silenced. I didn't 78 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: speak out against people who dissent against college football or 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: who hold the powerful to account, because I support all that. 80 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: There are hundreds of excellent regional, local, and national journalists 81 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: that cover college football that do that effectively every day. 82 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm all for that. You have to have that. Some 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: people badly mischaracterized what I said to fit again an 84 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: agenda that they've probably pushed for a long time, and 85 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: so I said that most of you agreed. A lot 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: of people in our industry privately reached out and they agreed. 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Some of them publicly reached out and agreed. A few didn't, 88 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and so a few badly mischaracterized what I said, and 89 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: then they badly misquoted in some cases what I said. 90 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: And yet I have not had a soul that spoke 91 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: critically of that comment that I made that properly conveyed 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: my thought process. None of them did. No one accurately 93 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: conveyed what I said and then disagreed with it. If 94 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: they did, I'd be fine with it. It's not the 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: first time, it's not the last time. But I do 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: have a problem when I misquoted and something I didn't 97 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: say is taken and then rearranged to fit a personal agenda, 98 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: and then it's thrown out there by people who were 99 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: never referenced to begin with. That is kind of aggravating. However, 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: it's been dealt with. I put out another tweet earlier 101 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: this morning about it, and that'll probably be the last 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: time I speak about that. But I do appreciate it, 103 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: and I just wanted you guys to know that that 104 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: was largely born out of your feedback and for the record, 105 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: those hundreds of people again at the local beat level 106 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: and the regional level. In the national level, I mean 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm around them every wee in a normal year. I 108 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: talk to these folks constantly. Most of them do a 109 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: phenomenal job. I mean there, in some cases the very 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: lifeblood of the information flow in this sport. In a 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: lot of cases, actually not some cases. I mean, you 112 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: would have no clue what's going on if it weren't 113 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: for especially the folks on the ground at the local level, 114 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: who I think have the most thankless job. I get 115 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to work at the national level, and so I get 116 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: to talk to a whole lot of people, but also 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: I get to observe the work that a lot of 118 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the local folks do. Like if you're a Brigham young fan, 119 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: you probably do not observe a lot of the goings 120 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: on on the Virginia Tech beat, And if you're at VATECH, 121 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: you probably don't know a whole lot about what's going 122 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: on in and around Florida State football. I do, and 123 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: I really appreciate what those folks deal with. In some cases, 124 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: they have a very cooperative and favorable environment for covering 125 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: their team. In other cases, there's a brick wall where 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: hardly any information is allowed to leak out, and it's 127 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: very hard for them to do their jobs. I love 128 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: most of those folks. What I'm talking about are the 129 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: very very few who stick out like a sore thumb, 130 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: who have zero joy in their life. They don't love 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: what they do at all, and therefore they also are 132 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: kind of vengeful and spiteful for anyone who's allowing themselves 133 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: to joyfully experience college football, whether it's a player, whether 134 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: it's a fan base, and they projected and it sticks 135 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: out again, very very easily, because it's not congruent with 136 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: what the rest of us are like and what the 137 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: rest of the folks in the sports media industry are like. 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: You know who these people are. We know who these 139 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: people are. We also know who those people aren't. I mean, 140 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: I had someone the other day reach out and say, well, 141 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: I guess you're saying that no one should ever dissent 142 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: in college football or criticize anyone in the sport or 143 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: criticize the sport itself. No, because that would be stupid 144 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: if you thought that. I mean, I look at a 145 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: guy just to mention some random names. I look at 146 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: a guy like Bruce Feldman who's worked at ESPN, Fox 147 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: Sports is where he's at right now. I mean Bruce Feldman, 148 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: I think probably does about his thorough and good a 149 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: job at covering the national college football scene as anyone 150 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: out there. Bruce Feldman's critical many times. Bruce Feldman breaks 151 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of stories about information many times throughout a 152 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: given calendar year. I think he does a great job 153 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: at it. I cannot remember the last time I looked 154 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: at anything Bruce Feldman put out and said, man, he 155 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: didn't need to do that, or meant shame on him 156 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: or men, I'm questioning his motivation. I don't ever do that. 157 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Chris Lowe works at ESPN, Brandon Marcelo, the guys who 158 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: we have who work here at the national level, Chris 159 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Hummer over here at twenty four to seven Sports. I 160 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: don't ever look at those folks and they're reporting, whether 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: it's glowing or whether there has to be a lot 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: of bad information put in their stories and say, man, 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: they just hate this sport. I don't ever think that 164 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: about them, because they don't. In some cases I talk 165 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: to those folks on a daily basis. In other cases, 166 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: I just read their work and observe their work, and 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: have never really talked to him in person, but yet 168 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: it's very obvious the love for the game and the 169 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: love for the players is there. You don't have to 170 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: prove it. If it's there, if it's authentic, it bleeds 171 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: through in your work. However, if it's not there, that 172 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: also bleeds through. And I see it, and a lot 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: of you guys see it, and so it's time to 174 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: call it out. It's the off season now, it's not 175 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: detracting or taking away from the game itself. I think 176 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: it's time to call it out. And it's probably not 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: going to be the last time you hear that sentiment 178 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: expressed from me. It's certainly not going to be an 179 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: overwhelming theme of our shows. In fact, I've probably gone 180 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: too long on it this morning, but I just wanted 181 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: to put that out there. And I'm sure that this 182 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: in and of itself will be twisted in a way 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: far beyond what I ever meant it to be, So 184 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: we'll see a case by case basis. I guess, all right, 185 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: let's dive into a lot of the Q and A 186 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: this morning, because we have got plenty, plenty plenty to 187 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: talk about. So as you know, Steve Sarkisian has gone 188 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: on to Texas and he's taken a lot of coaches. 189 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: So I had Steven, I had Kelly. A number of 190 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: you asked about how I felt Nick Saban feels about 191 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: having some of his coaches taken by Steve Sarkisian to 192 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: go to Texas. Well, I don't think he's overly joyful 193 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: about it. I certainly don't think he's turning cartwheels. But 194 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: I also think Nick Saban obviously understands how this game works, 195 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: and he's certainly not going to be mad at someone 196 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: or take it personal or hold against them if they 197 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: take a promotion. For example, you look at the offensive 198 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: line coach Kyle Flood who just went out to Texas. Well, 199 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: he's taking a promotion, he's taking the offensive coordinator spot. 200 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Now Steve Sarkisian is going to call plays there, so 201 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: it won't be a traditional offensive coordinator spot. But here's 202 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: what really matters. What really matters is take a look 203 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: at what the pay increase is. I mean, if you're 204 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: getting that, you know, two or threefold pay increase, Man, 205 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: that's promotion. You don't turn that down. You can't be 206 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: turning that down. I'm also looking at Jeff Banks, who 207 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: is a big time part of their recruiting machine and 208 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: special teams as well, and he apparently seems to be 209 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: headed to Texas. Now this is as I record this morning. 210 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's been made official, but a 211 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: number of people are reporting that. Let's take a look 212 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: and let's see what kind of role Jeff Banks gets. 213 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: If it's the same role for the same amount of money, okay, 214 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: then it aggravates you a little bit. But if he's elevated, 215 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: if he's given more responsibility, if he's given a bigger salary, 216 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: you can't get mad at that. But I just want 217 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: to remind you, you know, whether Nick Saban's happy about 218 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 1: it or indifferent or mad, just if you're an Alabama 219 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: fan or even if you're just an observer who's interested 220 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: in this. Remember I talked about this on Late Kick 221 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: Live the other night. It's crazy to think about this. 222 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: So they want a title this year, well, the twenty 223 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: twenty season. Obviously, the pressure washer has been cranked up 224 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: outside again, so ignore the noise. And they also won 225 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: one in twenty seventeen. Okay, So like DeVante Smith's freshman 226 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: year in his senior year, they won a championship. Do 227 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you realize out of the entire coaching staff that was 228 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: on that twenty seventeen Alabama team, none of them were 229 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: left other than Nick Saban on this year's twenty twenty 230 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: version of Alabama. None. I mean, there's always churn everywhere 231 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: except Clemson, I guess, but that's crazy, And so it 232 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: just shows you. If you were to watch this casually 233 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: and you didn't really follow the day to day goings on, 234 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: then you wouldn't even know that. You would just see 235 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: the results continue to be the same, and therefore you think, oh, 236 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: they must be kind of Lake Clemson. There must be 237 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: no turnover. No, it's the antithesis of Clemson. They have 238 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: a ton of turnover, and yet they're getting equal to 239 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: or better results. So yet, it's nice to have your 240 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: best coaches stick around. But then again, it's catch twenty 241 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: two because the more you succeed, the more notoriety they 242 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: rightfully get, and then the more notoriety they get, the 243 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: more likely they are to be a candidate for job openings. 244 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: And when you're losing folks off your staff, it probably 245 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: means you've done something really good. I don't know if 246 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: you've noticed, but not many people are trying to poach 247 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: the coaching staffs of places that barely go five hundred. 248 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: The reason they're having to hire new coaches is because 249 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: they just fired their old ones, not because they lost 250 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: them to a better situation. So I don't think it's 251 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: a big deal. I think that they are about to 252 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: probably bring in a really, really good offensive line coach. 253 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, I know, has been heavily involved and rumored 254 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: as the new offensive coordinator there as of recording. This 255 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: is not official either. Sometimes Nick Saban doesn't even make 256 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: an official announcement. It's just kind of all right, we 257 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: all assume he's been hired. Has anyone snuck in there 258 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: and seen if his name plate is on the desk 259 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: or on the door? I mean, I guess we'll see 260 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: in the spring if they let you have a spring. 261 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: But I think they'll be fine. You know. I I 262 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: had someone who was asking me on Twitter the other 263 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: night about what I would think if Nick Saban did 264 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: indeed hire Bill O'Brien, as it looks like he will 265 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: for the offensive coordinator position, and he was just asking. 266 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: He wasn't being critical. I didn't take it to be critical, 267 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: but I took that time to remind him of what 268 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I just said about the coaching staff. And also some 269 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: people piped in, and they're right, a lot of folks 270 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: were critical when Steve Sarkisian got rehired. Sarkisian, you know, 271 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: he was there, and Lynn Lane Kiffin gets fired right 272 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: before the championship game and that was in twenty sixteen. 273 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: So then Sarkisian gets elevated to the role of offensive 274 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: coordinator with one week's lead time for the title game 275 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: and they end up getting beat on the last second 276 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: against Clemson in Tampa, right there standing in front of 277 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Hunter Infro as he caught that pass on the field. 278 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: So that was a wild scene. But then Sarkisian goes 279 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: off to Atlanta, and because Atlanta didn't succeed as a team, 280 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: then I guess some people perceive that Steve Sarkisian can't 281 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: be a winner as an individual, and Saban brings him 282 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: back in two seconds flat. He never even thought twice 283 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: about it. And there were some people who are critical 284 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: of that move. You can't find them now. I mean, 285 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: they're hiding under some of the biggest bowlders. They can find, 286 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: But they're out there, and so I'm just thinking, knowing 287 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of what I do, about how much 288 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: interest that Alabama offensive coordinator position has gotten and how 289 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: many candidates there are begging to crawl over broken glass 290 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: to get that position. If Bill O'Brien is the guy 291 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Nick Saban settles on, he's the best of the available candidates. 292 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: It's not like their cousins. I mean, he's not playing 293 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: favorites or anything. His only I mean, his only bias 294 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: is towards being able to do it's best for his team. 295 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: So if Bill O'Brien is that, then I have every 296 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: reason to believe he's the best guy for the job. 297 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's hit up Joe's question. He submitted it 298 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: via Twitter. He said, Hey, from the last episode of 299 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Late Kik Live, I heard you talk about bowl game 300 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: compensation as a way to try and save the integrity 301 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: of bowl season. Do you really think that more money 302 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: from a bowl game, like maybe ten thousand dollars would 303 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: be enough to keep a kid who has a good 304 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: chance of making millions in the NFL to playing a 305 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: bowl game. I don't see anything about the bowl post 306 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: and that benefits players, especially the NFL caliber players. The 307 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: Bowl season is all about schools boosting their futures to me, 308 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: not players moving forward with their careers. Well, I disagree 309 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: with the last part because I can give you countless 310 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: examples of players who have massively improved their futures and 311 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: their stock even in the NFL drafting world, by playing 312 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: in a bowl game. So that is off the table 313 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: for me. But to the first part of your question, 314 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: this goes back to an idea I put out there 315 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: on Late Kick Live the other night, and I thought 316 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: about the fact that you can't put the toothpaste back 317 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: in the tube once you've had some folks, notably some 318 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: of the folks we were talking about previously, who have 319 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: screamed into any microphone they can that bowl games are 320 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: meaningless outside of the playoff. Well, players listen to that. 321 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Kids listen to that. So now you have opt outs 322 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: all over the place, and then you have even guys 323 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: who are playing playing at questionable levels of motivation. So 324 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, to answer your question, Joe, I cannot stop 325 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: all opt outs from bowlseason. I can't do that. I 326 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: don't think an expanded playoff would do all that much 327 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: to help it either. For the record, and that's what 328 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about the other night. But what I 329 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: am trying to offer is an I idea for how 330 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: to maintain the integrity of that Bowl season and maybe 331 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: minimize opt outs and keep the guys who do play 332 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: at optimum levels of motivation. So here's what I came 333 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: up with. This would require NCAA approval, It would require 334 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: obviously a rearranged revenue package with the Bowl game itself. 335 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Universities and presidents would have to be on board, So 336 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of red tape to cut through here. 337 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: This is an idealistic view of what I'd love to see. 338 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to see the bulls put in an hierarchy, 339 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: which they already are. The higher the level of the 340 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: bowl game you go to, the bigger the overall compensation package, 341 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: the overall revenue pot. And what I'd love to see is, 342 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a sizeable chunk of the revenue, 343 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: TV money, sponsorship money, etc. That is generated from that 344 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Bowl game, and I'd love to see it put in 345 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: a pot. So let's say, you know, there's a one 346 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars total pot, and I 347 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: would love to see a compensation package put on the 348 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: line for the teams that make it. So if Team 349 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: A and Team B go to let's say the Fiesta Bowl. 350 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: So let's take Oregon and Iowa State from this last year. 351 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: They're going to the Fiesta Bowl. Okay, you go into 352 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: that Fiesta Bowl knowing ahead of time there is five 353 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on the line. Here, the winning team 354 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: is going to get seventy five percent of that five 355 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to divide amongst their roster of the 356 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: kids who chose to play in the game. Now, if 357 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: you were injured and you couldn't play, I don't know 358 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: how you handle that. But by and large, what we're 359 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: looking for is we're looking to stoke the fires of 360 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: motivation that may have been already doused because people previously 361 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: told them the game was meaningless. Well, if their skin 362 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: in a game, all of a sudden, it means something. 363 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about giving kids a few hundred dollars. 364 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about giving each one of them several thousand dollars, 365 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: like real life changing money in exchange for playing in 366 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: that bowl game. Winning team gets seventy five percent, losing 367 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: team gets twenty five percent. So you're going to get 368 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: some either way. You incentivize winning the game. Therefore, you 369 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about guys just going there to 370 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: go through the motions and participate. Win the game, you 371 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: get a lot more than if you lose the game. 372 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: It's the way the XFL used to do their salary 373 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: structure back in the day. Winning teams made a whole 374 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: lot more than losing teams, and that took care of 375 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: any kind of questionable competition on the field or motivation levels. 376 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: And that's what I'd love to see. Okay, so you 377 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: get paid after the game. You don't get paid for 378 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: shown up. You get paid after the game. Does that 379 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: erode at the integrity of amateurism? Certainly it does. I'm 380 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: not a believer that that's going to matter much in 381 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: the future anyway, with name, image and likeness on the table, 382 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: and I'm a big supporter of that at this point. Anyway, However, 383 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: I do think that would go a long way. And 384 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: I do think Joe, to your question, No, if I'm 385 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: standing to be a top five draft pick, the ability 386 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: for me to get twelve five hundred dollars for playing 387 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: in a New Year six game versus what my signing 388 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: bonus alone would be in the NFL. Maybe I don't 389 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: want to risk it, but how many top ten draft 390 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: picks are there out there? You know, how many top 391 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: fifteen draft picks are They're out there, and a lot 392 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: of those guys are playing in one of the semi 393 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: final games to begin with. So I don't think I 394 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: saw a single time top ten or top fifteen draft 395 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: pick that was out there for Oregon or Iowa State 396 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: that hadn't already opted out, And so I think it 397 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: would go a long way. And to me, I'm thinking 398 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: about the guys that are gonna play. Okay, so the 399 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: guys that are gonna play, how do I make sure 400 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: that the competition level is at what you get in 401 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: the regular season, or maybe even in some cases it 402 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: exceeds what you get in the regular season. And it 403 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: is the age old solution, you put skin in the game. 404 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: That's how I'd love to see folks go about it, 405 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: because otherwise, you know, there may be some people listening 406 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: who say, well, the spirit of competition should be enough. Listen, 407 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. I'm just trying to be realistic. 408 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: You cannot have this messaging constantly that tells kids, well, 409 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the ball season's meaningless. Now it's meaningless. It's meaningless. Well, 410 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: eventually they listen and they think it's meaningless too. And 411 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: so I can't put that toothpaste back in the tube. 412 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to. I'm gonna try and create 413 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: new solutions for the current situation at hand, and I 414 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: think that's probably our best shot at this point. All right, 415 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about the word underrated. Jeremy had a big 416 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: question about underrated teams. I'm gonna hit it right after this. 417 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: So Jeremy asked, what's the most underrated team you think 418 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: you see out there going into twenty twenty one. Now, granted, 419 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: we're a long way away from the twenty twenty one 420 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: season or even the spring season of twenty twenty one, 421 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: but I got a team certainly right on the tip 422 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: of my tongue, and they will be for an extended 423 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: period of time. It's Penn State. So Penn State, I 424 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: think could potentially end up being the poster child program 425 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty throwaway theory. The twenty twenty throwaway 426 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: theory which I've talked a lot about with Tennessee and 427 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Penn State, is I am not putting an asterisk next 428 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: to anyone who won in twenty twenty. However, I am 429 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: willing to put one next to someone who really disproportionately underachieved. 430 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Penn State went a long time without even 431 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: winning a game this year, and they closed a little 432 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: bit better, but it's to the point where it's almost 433 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: outside of the realm of even the most extreme potential outcomes, 434 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: And so you know, there's just something else afoot. I 435 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: always love saying a foot, but there's something else afoot there, 436 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: and it's just twenty twenty disproportionately impacting teams. One of 437 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: the popular talking points out there that I did not 438 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: buy into this year is, well, everyone's had to deal 439 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: with COVID, but this isn't like rain. Like if you 440 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: and I play a football game in the rain, we 441 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: both dealt with the exact same circumstances. Okay, so the 442 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: outcome is still the outcome. But if we say, well 443 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: we both dealt with COVID, well, I mean broad strokes purposes, Yeah, 444 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: that's true. But what if I had half of my 445 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: coaching staff have relatives and family members that either died 446 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: or had extended stays in the hospital and it would 447 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: have sixteen of my starters spent at least one week 448 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: on the shelf due to quarantine, contact tracing, or outright 449 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: testing positive, whereas you had none of your coaching staff 450 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: impacted and only four of your players. I mean, does 451 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: that mean I handled it worse than you? Maybe? But 452 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: none of that is football related. In other words, that's 453 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: a one off, generational occurrence where maybe you were more 454 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: equipped to handle it, maybe you were more well read. 455 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: And the power of man, the pressure washers is getting 456 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: really close outside now, I bet it's really getting loud. 457 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: But be that as it may look. As long as 458 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: there's not going to be a huge virus outbreak in 459 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and it's not going to be a 460 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: round to the degree it was last year, at least, 461 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: I don't really apply a lot of what I saw 462 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. And if that's 463 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: the case, then I'm looking at Penn State and I 464 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: think they're well equipped to be a contender in the 465 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: Big Ten. I thought they were going to be last year, 466 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: and they weren't. Now. One thing they did do is 467 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: they brought in Kirk Soroka and then they fired him 468 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: after this year, and I'll tell you what they did. 469 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: They went and got Mike Yursuch who had been at Texas, 470 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: and that staff got fired, and they obviously don't need 471 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator at Texas. Now, I mean, if just 472 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: that move clicks, if just that move clicks, I mean, 473 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Penn State is instantly a top fifteen team. I think 474 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: I almost ranked them top fifteen in are way too 475 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: early poll for twenty twenty one. And so I mean, listen, 476 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: we got a long time to hone in on that 477 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: and perfect the finer details. But I think Penn State 478 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: has a chance to massively up their performance level year 479 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: over year, and then if they do, then they jump 480 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: right back into that same discussion that I had him 481 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: in before with Notre Dame, Texas A and M's kind 482 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: of on a little bit different level, I think. But 483 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: all these programs that have really good rosters, they have 484 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: really good recruiting profiles, they develop really well, they have 485 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: a very solid foundation, and they're just waiting to hit 486 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: a home run or a grand slam at quarterback. Texas 487 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: A and M fits that. I think Notre Dame fits that, 488 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: and I certainly think that Penn State fits that, and 489 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: I had hoped we may see that this year, although 490 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: there were no obvious Trevor Lawrence's or Matt even mac 491 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: jones is or Justin Field's on those rosters in particular, 492 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: But you never know. See, that's what I think the 493 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: transfer portals about to do the sport. I think everyone's 494 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna have hope, more hope than they used to going 495 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: into the off season. Think about what the off season 496 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: used to be. The off season used to be not 497 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: too long ago. All Right, we have who we have 498 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: on our roster, and then yeah, transfers are possible, but 499 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: they're very much on the periphery of our off season plan. 500 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: Whereas now you got dozens and dozens and dozens of kids. 501 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: It seems like every week going into the transfer portal 502 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: some notable names. And you go into every off season, 503 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: especially if you're like the aforementioned Penn State A and 504 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: M notre dame type Rostern, you think to yourself, wait 505 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: a second, if we're only like a couple of good 506 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: tackles away, or if we just need one more dynamite receiver, 507 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: or if we obviously, like a lot of people, need 508 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback man, we may not have to go recruit 509 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: a kid and wait until twenty twenty three or twenty 510 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: twenty four to reap the benefit. Like this could happen 511 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: one random morning or in early March. We could wake 512 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden, this dynamite high four 513 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: star kid who just didn't like the way things were 514 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: going at University X entered the portal and then now 515 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: he's here, and man, what are we about to do 516 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: this season? Like that's the hope, and that's the motivation 517 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: or optimism for motivation rather that a lot of folks 518 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: are going to have now in those kinds of fan bases. 519 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's gonna happen tomorrow for any 520 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: of them. I'm just saying, if you got the rest 521 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: of your bilt, you're putting yourself in the right place 522 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: and then the right time. In terms of a guy 523 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: going into the portal, it may just find you. And 524 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: it may be in some cases after a preview magazine's 525 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: already been written, or after you've done a top twenty 526 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: five ranking. Well, you got to be ready to adjust 527 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: those rankings, is all I can say. All right, here's 528 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: a question from the podcast review section. And by the way, 529 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: five star reviews are appreciated. If you put a question 530 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: in your written review along with that five star review, 531 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I may just answer it. So here's one from the 532 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: Apple podcast review section. So this was right after the 533 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl where Ohio State had beaten Clemson. In the question, 534 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: is now that I saw that out of Ryan Day, 535 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: do I place him a little bit higher on the 536 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: best coaches in College Football list? Where would you have 537 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: him before that performance? Thanks? This is a great listen, 538 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: So I appreciate the compliment. I already had him very, 539 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: very high. And so that performance, I'll tell you, from 540 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: an offensive play calling standpoint, it was great. I mean, 541 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: it was a masterful game plan. But that's not really 542 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: what impacted my any kind of opinion change that I 543 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: had about Ryan Day. I already thought highly of them, 544 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what really impressed me, and what 545 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: I think is one of the many features of that 546 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: program that sets them up for a sustained run of excellence. 547 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: They've got the recruiting, obviously, they've got a really good 548 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: coaching staff. But did you notice how they carried themselves 549 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: going into that game versus how Clemson did? And so 550 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talking, and I'm fine with 551 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: that as long as you're going to play the team 552 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: on the field you're talking about, I'm fine with it. 553 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: And so Clemson played them, Clemson got splattered by them, 554 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: and now you dust yourself off. You tried again next year. 555 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: But as for Ohio State, you would think to yourself, 556 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, an average person, if they dominated someone who 557 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: had talked about them like that, well they'd run their 558 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: mouth after the game. Ohio State didn't. That's not an accident. 559 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Those guys are coached a certain way. They carried themselves 560 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot like Nick Saban and Alabama carried themselves after 561 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: a win. They're kind of robotic. I mean, there's a 562 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: motion and you celebrate. They were certainly celebratory, but none 563 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: of them, none of them went ran to the nearest 564 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: microphone and talked about get back and talked about revenge 565 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: and talked about how we shut folks up. Well, even 566 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: though you know they were feeling it, just like anyone 567 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: who was watching who wasn't a Clumson Tiger fan probably 568 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: felt it. I mean, it was a great setup, it 569 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: was a great build. It was almost like a pro 570 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: wrestling promotion type build to that game. But I observed 571 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: that and then I listened to those guys. I tried 572 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: to find every postgame press conference an interview I could, 573 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: and no one had that attitude publicly. That's how you 574 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: carry yourself as a professional, even though you're in college. 575 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: That's how you have a professional mentality that separates you. 576 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: That to me, is what separates Ohio State. Now. Since then, 577 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: they've gotten run out of the building by Alabama a 578 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: few days ago, But that's fine because Alabama was just 579 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: that much better than everyone this year and Ohio State 580 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff they were dealing with. But 581 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State's going to be back. I don't have any 582 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: kind of wager to put on the table right now, 583 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: but if we were betting yes or no, Ryan Day 584 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: wins at least one national title in the next four years, 585 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: I would bet yes, he will. I think they're gonna 586 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: be there. I think they're recruiting is going to make 587 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: it impossible for them not to be a contender every year. 588 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: And then from that you're going to find out that's 589 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: not just a staff full of recruiters. I mean, that's 590 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: a staff full of really good developers, really good coaches, 591 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: And so I'd be overly excited, man, like you got over. 592 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: You got over the hump you couldn't get over last 593 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: year with the win over Clemson. Well, now you got 594 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: the final hump that you have to get over, and 595 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: it's winning a national championship. You may have to go 596 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: through Alabama to do it, but they'll be back. Ohio 597 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: State will be back. So the question was what do 598 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: I think about Ryan Day. I think extremely highly of 599 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. It's no coincidence and no accident. When NFL 600 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: franchises put their eyeballs on you, think about that, there 601 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: were already NFL franchises looking at Ryan Day. And don't 602 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: just think about that, think about what the answer was. 603 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: When you see people reporting from sources about what Ryan 604 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Day thinks about going to the NFL, the sources ryan Day. 605 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: Let me just spoil that for you. The source is 606 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. And so when you see a lot of 607 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: these national reporters saying sources are indicating Ryan Day has 608 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: no interest in the NFL, that might as well be 609 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Day calling you up on your cell phone and saying, Hey, 610 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State fan there and Taleda, Ohio, Hey, don't worry 611 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: about it. I'm not going to the NFL. I'm here 612 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: for the long haul. So you have what the NFL 613 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: views to be their caliber of head coach that's going 614 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: to stay in Columbus, Ohio and have a roster advantage 615 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: over ninety eight percent of the sport, Be the preemptive 616 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: favorite in the Big Ten every year, be a favorite 617 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: to go to the playoff every year. You've got a 618 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: well established brand, You've got a ton of momentum. The 619 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: only things that really could go wrong there are things 620 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: that you control, and that largely is related to your mentality. 621 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: And I just spoke about the mentality that program has. 622 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: So as long as they continue to be wired that way, 623 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: they're set up for success in the long term. All right, 624 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: good podcast today. We'll probably start stretching these out a 625 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: little bit longer as we fill in the inbox and 626 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: we fill in a lot of the mail bag again. 627 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: So again, Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot 628 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: com and on Twitter at late Kick Josh. You can 629 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: follow me there as well. I ask you humbly to 630 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: do that. We will start to stretch it a little 631 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: bit more. I remember in the off season we were 632 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: doing these things like forty five or fifty minutes, so 633 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: a little bit over an hour in some cases. Maybe 634 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: not that long, but we'll stretch a little bit further 635 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: so until then, For producer Jordan on the podcast side 636 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: of things, I'm Josh Fate. Thanks for listening, to have 637 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: yourselves a great day and God bless