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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Guiltias Charge Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Stephen and I am the host. In

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Speaker 1: joining me as always is my guy Tyler. Tyler, what

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Speaker 1: I'm going? How you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing very well, Steven, how you doing doing?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 1: Exciting times obviously ahead as the Chargers have begun to

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Speaker 1: interview and request to interview head coaching and GM candidates.

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Speaker 1: It's been an exciting week and obviously the interviews will

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Speaker 1: continue to happen over the next couple of weeks here

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Speaker 1: as we go full steam ahead towards the potential hires

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Speaker 1: of those two positions. So we got a fun show

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Speaker 1: plan for you guys. Today we are going to be

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Speaker 1: joined by mister Jeff Diamond, a former NFL Executive of

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Speaker 1: the Year with the Minnesota Vikings as well as the

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Speaker 1: president of the Tennessee Titans. We were able to pick

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Speaker 1: his brain on the process that the Chargers are undergoing

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Speaker 1: right now, kind of questions, environments, red flags, dues, and

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Speaker 1: don'ts if you will of this coaching and GM search.

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Speaker 3: So really excited about that.

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Speaker 1: And we'll also talk about the likely retirement of Corey Lindsley.

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Speaker 1: To wrap up today's show, So Tyler excited to dive

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Speaker 1: in as always, but before we do have to say

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Speaker 1: we are fans of the team first and foremost. The

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Speaker 1: opinions that we reflect on the episodes every single week

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Speaker 1: on this channel are not reflective of the opinions of

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Speaker 1: the organization.

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Speaker 2: They are ours and ours alone.

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Speaker 1: We are fans of the team just like you guys,

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Speaker 1: and are very grateful to have this platform. And hopefully

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Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed the episode, so that bean zaid, Let's

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Speaker 1: get to this interview with mister Jeff Diamond. All right,

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Speaker 1: you guys, so happy now to be joined by mister

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Speaker 1: Jeff Diamond by way of the thirty third Team. Very

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Speaker 1: grateful for them for helping us facilitate this interview. Like

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Jeff is a former NFL Executive of

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Speaker 1: the Year. He's a former GM of the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: very excited to have him on today to pick his

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Speaker 1: brain about the Chargers process that they're gonna be going

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Speaker 1: through hiring a GM as well as a head coach. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: we can't thank you enough for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: join us today. How are you doing up there in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fine, thank you. We've had a fairly mild

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Speaker 3: winner so far, so it's not too bad. But I

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Speaker 3: guess I'd rather be in sunny California with you guys.

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Speaker 3: But maybe maybe later in the winter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, someday, someday we'll go. We'll get on a vacation,

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Speaker 1: maybe potentially in California. Like I mentioned, we're really excited

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Speaker 1: about this. This is going to be a true inside

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Speaker 1: behind the charters doors from a gentleman who has won

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Speaker 1: and the kind of experience he has is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a ton of fun to pick his brain about. So

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Speaker 1: really excited about this, Jeff, I think we'll start with

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Speaker 1: the head coach inside of things here. Obviously the Chargers

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Speaker 1: you know, whether you know there are specific candidates out

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Speaker 1: there your former organization let a head coach go today.

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Speaker 1: Experienced obviously when it comes from your perspective as an executive,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough call because obviously, if a guy

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Speaker 3: so they come from everywhere. I've seen head coaches, and

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Speaker 3: Chargers just got done with the defensive head coach, now

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Speaker 3: they want to have an offensive head coach. It's just

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Speaker 3: a it's a tough call, but I think ultimately it's

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Speaker 3: right call. So we'll just see how it all turns

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chargers have certainly started to cast as widened

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Speaker 2: How is this interview structured? Because Charges fans, you know,

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Speaker 2: we can pick the names, but once things go behind

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Speaker 2: how is an interview structured? Walk us through you know

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it varies with the situation with the individual.

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Speaker 3: But in often cases it'll be the owner of the

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Speaker 3: it just varies by different by different people, by different situations,

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Speaker 3: And it could be a college coach. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: always a very fascinating process and it can be certainly

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Speaker 3: very wary of what's going on with other teams. Are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, those of us who have

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think it's it's obviously gets more

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Speaker 3: But when we hired a head coach in nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 2: But do these candidates you talked about the book they

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Speaker 2: makers asking, hey, how would you fix our team? Like?

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Speaker 2: How are these candidates pitching that they should be the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that a lot of it is about

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that again they'll learn and and they'll

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a great point there. I think

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Speaker 3: And I've seen that in different organizations I've worked for,

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Speaker 2: Chargers fans, and I believe through NFL buzz as well,

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Speaker 2: it seems like Adam Peters is the number one GM

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Speaker 2: candidate around the league. What would you ask him? I

439
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Speaker 2: know that you know, again we can't assign credit or

440
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Speaker 2: really even blame for it, but what would you ask

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Speaker 2: him about the trade up for Trey Lance and giving

442
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Speaker 2: up the four picks for a quarterback that basically barely

443
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: played for them did not work out? How are you

444
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: addressing that quote unquote error or mistake and then what

445
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Speaker 2: they learned from that?

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Speaker 3: Of course, well, maybe he's going to blame John Lynch, Hey,

447
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't the GM, so but yeah, I'm sure that

448
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Speaker 3: he'll probably be asked, how was you're involved in that?

449
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Speaker 3: And if he's smart, you'll kind of say, yeah, well,

450
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Speaker 3: it wasn't really my final call. So that's what I

451
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Speaker 3: would advise him definitely and maybe take more credit for.

452
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Speaker 3: And you can always to overcome that.

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Speaker 1: For example, my last question for you, Jeff, I think

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Speaker 1: you know this everybody's talking about, like ideal destinations, how

455
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Speaker 1: attractive it is if you know a GM Kennedy or

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Speaker 1: a head coaching candidate came to you and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about this Chargers job? Obviously we

458
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: know some of the pros and cons here, but for you,

459
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Speaker 1: how attractive would the Chargers be for somebody who came

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Speaker 1: to you for advice?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, first of all, when you've got a

462
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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback, that's the first priority, and they've got that.

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. I saw him and whatever that was week

464
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Speaker 3: three here at US Bank Stadium, and he killed the

465
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Speaker 3: Vikings that day and Brian Flora's defense, by the way,

466
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Speaker 3: with all with a bunch of short passes. I think

467
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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, I don't know how many passes he crossed

468
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Speaker 3: that day, both the fifteen balls or so. But you

469
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Speaker 3: start with the quarterback, and you start with some really

470
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Speaker 3: good building blocks, for example, on the offensive line with Slater.

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Speaker 3: You got some really good players and some and some

472
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Speaker 3: quality players on defense. But you got to make some

473
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Speaker 3: decisions there with some of the some of the salary

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Speaker 3: cap and some of the age factors with some of

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Speaker 3: those guys, and so there, I think it's an attractive

476
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Speaker 3: job because there is Justin Herbert and there is a

477
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Speaker 3: fifth overall pick in the draft that maybe they can

478
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Speaker 3: paraly that trade it down to some team that wants

479
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Speaker 3: to get one of those quarterbacks, pick up some extra

480
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Speaker 3: picks and really choice things up on defense. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: to me, the Chargers are one of the more attractive

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Speaker 3: jobs that are open.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Herbert certainly helps with that. He keeps us

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Speaker 2: afloat as fans every single year. As far as and

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Speaker 2: last question from here, and we'll let you go, is

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Speaker 2: there I mean, maybe disagree. I don't know. Is there

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Speaker 2: a benefit and what is that benefit to hiring a

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Speaker 2: general manager first and then a head coach the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I've been open to doing head coach first and then

490
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Speaker 2: general manager or vice versa. But historically and traditionally it

491
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Speaker 2: seems to be general manager first. In your eyes, what

492
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Speaker 2: is that advantage to going general manager first?

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Speaker 3: I think it's important to have the GM first, honestly,

494
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Speaker 3: because then the GM can be involved with some of

495
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Speaker 3: the maybe the later interview process with the coach. But

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Speaker 3: I think then there's some some buy in from the

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Speaker 3: GM to the coach, as opposed to you hire a

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Speaker 3: coach that you bring a GM in and who's got

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Speaker 3: who's got the ultimate authority? Who, how's the jockeying for

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Speaker 3: position going is the is the GM thinking this isn't

501
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Speaker 3: my guy, and so there's never that synergy that they need.

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Speaker 3: It's hard enough to win in the NFL when you're

503
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Speaker 3: on the same page. If you're not on the same page,

504
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Speaker 3: it's almost impossible. And so I think from my standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I would want to have the GM in place first

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Speaker 3: and then finalize the coach.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, we can't thank you enough for joining us

509
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Speaker 1: today provided some great insight. I know I learned a lot.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys listening learned a lot from Jeff's experience

511
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Speaker 1: as well, and hopefully we can catch up again sometime soon.

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Speaker 3: Jeff sounds great, guys, I appreciate, take care and all

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Speaker 3: the best. Hey, guys.

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Speaker 1: only with on location. All right, Tyler, any final thoughts

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Speaker 1: from that injury? I thought it was great, lots of

524
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Speaker 1: cool insight. You know, a guy with a ton of

525
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Speaker 1: experience in the NFL. What do you think of his

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Speaker 1: answers today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the emphasis on preparation and people's skills.

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Speaker 2: Not that that's any surprise anyone who's ever been in

529
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Speaker 2: a job interview, that's interesting that there's even more so

530
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Speaker 2: of a shift towards that, And it's obviously then no

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Speaker 2: surprise that someone like Brendan Staley earned the job back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, given it seems like he's very

533
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Speaker 2: good in press conferences and obviously was good enough in

534
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Speaker 2: an interview for the job. So I understand how the

535
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Speaker 2: trend went there and how Brendan Staley could have won

536
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Speaker 2: the organization over. But we are in a different era

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Speaker 2: these days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think also just the emphasis on different backgrounds.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody and the Chargers themselves have not expressly stated,

540
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: but through members of the media have said that they

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Speaker 1: are looking for, you know, experience at the head coaching position,

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Speaker 1: and so it is interesting to hear how an NFL

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Speaker 1: executive who has hired coaches and been a part of

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Speaker 1: hiring coaches ways you know, experience versus non experience. You know,

545
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Speaker 1: he's he hired or was working with a coach who

546
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Speaker 1: had a very unorthodox start to his NFL career and

547
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: Bud Grant. So, you know, I think it's important for

548
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers and for fans to keep an open mind. Obviously,

549
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: there are definitely candidates that we all like who might

550
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Speaker 1: check certain boxes, but you never know who gets into

551
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Speaker 1: an interview and just kind of, you know, knocks it

552
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Speaker 1: out of the park and has a great resume that

553
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Speaker 1: you're not necessarily paying attention to. So those open backgrounds

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Speaker 1: I think is super important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The most we can do, I think even more

556
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Speaker 2: so for general manager candidates is look at the Wikipedia

557
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Speaker 2: and look at their sheet and draft picks and that's

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Speaker 2: all we can do. And we can maybe wigh and

559
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Speaker 2: do the best that we can. But once they're in

560
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: the building or virtually like that is when things certainly change.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to have alignment, you have to

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Speaker 2: have synergy, and the candidate just does not quite vibe

563
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Speaker 2: with you, it really doesn't matter, you know. I think

564
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: you have to have that. And there's so many good

565
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Speaker 2: general manager candidates that they can find the one that

566
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Speaker 2: matches them more more than just what's on paper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, So, as I mentioned, we do have

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Speaker 1: some names, some requests, some actual interviews, so we'll go

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Speaker 1: over some of that now. The Chargers did conduct an

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Speaker 1: interview with Kellen Moore and Gift Smith today they officially

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Speaker 1: announced on social media and then otherwise they have requested

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Speaker 1: to interview Todd Monkin, the Ravens offensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn

573
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Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson, the two coordinators in Detroit, Steve Wilkes,

574
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn, the Cowboys

575
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Patrick Graham, the Raiders defensive coordinator, as well

576
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Speaker 1: as Brian Callahan, the Bengals offensive coordinator. That just happened

577
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Speaker 1: as of a few minutes ago before we jumped on here.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder at an employee, or a head coaching

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Speaker 1: candidate rather that is not currently an NFL employee does

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Speaker 1: not have to have a formal interview request. So if

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Speaker 1: the Chargers want to interview Mike Rabel or Jim Harbaugh

582
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Speaker 1: or Ryan Date or whoever that is in the college ranks,

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Speaker 1: they do not have to officially formally announce an interview request.

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Speaker 1: That being said, Tyler, what's kind of your first glance

585
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Speaker 1: at this head coaching candidate list?

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Speaker 2: What's your first impression?

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Speaker 1: There?

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: Very good candidates and very balanced, many ones that we've

589
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: already discussed, many ones that Chargers fans are certainly excited about.

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00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: You have, you know, obviously a good balance of offense

591
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: here with something like Monkin with Johnson, with now Callahan,

592
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: but you also have defense with Glenn Wilkes, Quinn, etc.

593
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: It's a really, really solid grouping that only became more

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Speaker 2: exciting when Rabel was let go by the Titans, which

595
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: it seemed like there was some buzz there, but we

596
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Speaker 2: really didn't think that was going to really end up happening,

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Speaker 2: and then it did. So the Chargers are now looking

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Speaker 2: at what I originally thought was, you know, a weaker

599
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: coaching class, that maybe it was a bit top heavy.

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Speaker 2: But now you've got another name in there who could

601
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Speaker 2: genuinely be the chargers number one candidate. And Keenan Allen

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Speaker 2: you spoke on the traits that he's looking for in

603
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Speaker 2: a head coach, and he said he's looking for, you know, leadership,

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Speaker 2: obviously being a winner, knowing the game in and out,

605
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: just being smart. And so now you've got twenty twenty

606
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: one Coach of the Year Mike Rabel, who's now available,

607
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: who took the Titans to the AC Championship. You've got

608
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Speaker 2: twenty eleven Coach of the Year and now national champion

609
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. You've got one of the best play callers

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Speaker 2: in football in Ben Johnson who just helped take the

611
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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions and have them win the division for the

612
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Speaker 2: first time in thirty years. Dan Quinn took the Falcons

613
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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. I mean, it's a pretty good

614
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Speaker 2: time to need a head coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have a very clear top group,

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Speaker 1: and we see that group potentially reflected in the Chargers interviews.

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Speaker 1: So the Mike Rabel thing is super interesting. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like he's potentially got an eye for New England already.

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Speaker 1: But listen, man, Like I think objectively, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the top candidates. I think to me, we've kind of

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Speaker 1: identified Jim Harbon Ben Johnson as the top two guys.

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Speaker 1: I think Mike Rabel is right there. Whether he's number one,

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Speaker 1: two or three for you, I think all three of

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Speaker 1: those guys are legitimately top options, you know, guys very

625
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Speaker 1: deserving of a potential interview, very deserving of a potential bidding,

626
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Speaker 1: more depending on what team you are. But Mike Rabel

627
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Speaker 1: in particular is a really interesting candidate because, like, I

628
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Speaker 1: know that that the last two years in Tennessee have

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Speaker 1: not gone super great. Obviously, there's been you know, injuries

630
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Speaker 1: to Ryan Tannehill and they kind of went through a

631
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Speaker 1: competitive rebuild this year. So it's been, you know, not

632
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Speaker 1: a super productive two years for Mike Rabel. And he

633
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Speaker 1: spoke about that last week when he was impatially talking

634
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Speaker 1: about how much he hated losing. But I think, you know,

635
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Speaker 1: two of the things that we've talked about in this

636
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Speaker 1: coaching search are, you know, having organizational alignment and just

637
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Speaker 1: having the roster philosophies of having a head coach and

638
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: GM who are aligned and have a true vision that

639
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: match each other, and being able to bring that out

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00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: in the form of an identity and a culture. And

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel has definitely done that. I think his teams

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00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: have consistently had a very strong identity. They've been incredibly physical.

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Speaker 1: Like we've talked about this at the times the Chargers

644
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: have played the Titans, the Titans just had this way

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Speaker 1: of just sucking teams in and just making it a

646
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Speaker 1: fistfight and being physical and just scraping and crying for

647
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Speaker 1: every ounce of an advantage that they could possibly find,

648
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Speaker 1: whether it's on defense or offense or whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be. And that's definitely something that I would be

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Speaker 1: interested in potentially exploring. Mike Rabel has also been consistently

651
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Speaker 1: one of the best game managers in the league. He

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00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: gives the Titans a huge edge in terms of the

653
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: margins and coaching and time out management and clock management

654
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: and things like that. So Mike Rabel. You know he's

655
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: not coming off the best of times in Tennessee, but

656
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do from a defensive perspective,

657
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: from a culture perspective, and from a staff perspective. He

658
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: hired Matt Laflores his first offensive coordinator. Arthur Smith was

659
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: his second offensive coordinator. I know Arthur Smith wasn't like

660
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: super great this year in Atlanta, but like he was

661
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: able to get him a head coaching job. This is

662
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: a guy who did enough of a sample size as

663
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator where other teams were vying for his

664
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: services as a head coach. So this is a guy

665
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: who I think checks a ton of boxes. And for me,

666
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: I would definitely be interested in interviewing Mike Frable.

667
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: The best way I can describe the Titans under Vrabels

668
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: that I hated when the Chargers would play at the

669
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: Titans under Ray Bowl and you knew it is just

670
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: going to be some ugly game. You know, I tended

671
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: the game last year in Los Angeles when the Titans

672
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 2: came to town and by the fourth or fifth play

673
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: they lost their quarterback who ended up getting hurt and

674
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: they threw Willison and it was such a. They were

675
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: injured as is anyway, and the Titans still took the

676
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: Chargers all the way to the very very end, where

677
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: it took a miraculous, you know, fantastic Mike Williams catch

678
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: to set up the Chargers for the win this past season,

679
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Respectfully to the Titans, they had no business taking the

680
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: Chargers to overtime, giving their injuries at the time, the

681
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: uncertainty at quarterback, the offensive line wasn't very good, and

682
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: they took the Chargers to overtime and they won that game.

683
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: It really stinks playing the Titans. I mean, they will

684
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: stop the Chargers at the one yard line with a

685
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 2: cover years Chargers fans Melvin Gordon fumble like, they will

686
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: drag it out to the last play if possible. And

687
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: they are a tough, tough, tough, tough, tough team, and

688
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: we saw the Dolphins run into them. The Dolphins were,

689
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, hot team, great offense. Gotta go play Tennessee.

690
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Things don't look the same when you play Tennessee. And

691
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Lafleur and Smith. You know,

692
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: that is definitely what I think for most if they're

693
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: ranking these coaches and it's not just experience. I think

694
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: a lot of Chargers fans will rank Vaybell maybe third

695
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: because he's a defensive guy, whereas Harbaugh's offense and Ben

696
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: Johnson his offense, and so maybe Vrabel great candidate, but

697
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: maybe he's third. But as you pointed out, he did

698
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: hire Lafloor, and then after that they brought Arthur Smith

699
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: up as a Titan as a former tight ends coach,

700
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: and Ryan Tannehill run one comeback Player of the Year

701
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: under Arthur Smith. Like there, those are two very good,

702
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: you know, one higher and one elevation promotion internally that

703
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: really really worked out. So I don't know how to

704
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: work for the Chargers. Of course this time around, technically

705
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith is available. I don't know, but I do

706
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: love potentially like Terrell Williams we've talked about from I'm

707
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: not trying to self rabele here, but because he's the

708
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: new name that's available. You know, Terrell Williams, the Titans

709
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: assistant head coach and defensive line coach who work with

710
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack. I think that's probably a defensive coordinator if

711
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: it's verable, great coach again, twenty twenty one Coach of

712
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: the Year it's a winner. He's a winner. Hated when

713
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: the Chargers played him, would love if he coached for them.

714
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, whenever I picture the Tennessee Titans

715
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: that are Mike able outside of like Chargers experience. I

716
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: remember that game two seasons ago where they went to

717
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Ryan Tannehill did not play, Molik Will has

718
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: completed like seven passes and just was like completely not

719
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: functional as a quarterback at all, And it was down

720
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: to the wire because that defense just took it to

721
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Mahomes And and I've been a proponent of like stability

722
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: around justin Herbert being definitely one of my top priorities

723
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: in this coaching candidacy. But potentially getting some of that

724
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: Titans defense and pairing it with some of the pieces

725
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: that the Chargers have will be a lot of fun.

726
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: And Mike Rabel I think makes up in enough areas

727
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: for me where the lack of him not being an

728
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: offensive guy is kind of mitigated. And even though the

729
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: Titans have gone through different offensive coordinators, it generally has

730
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: always been the same kind of schematic world like, there's

731
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: been some schematic stability there, even if if you're not

732
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: having the same group of coaches calling the plays, So

733
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: I think that is definitely something to point out. Again,

734
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: this could all be a mood point. He could certainly

735
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: choose to just coach the Patriots and we'll see what happens.

736
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: But if you're Mike Rabel, like I think you should

737
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: be open to potentially coaching the Chargers, I think you

738
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: should be open to interviewing with these other teams because

739
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: you know this is you know, this is the probably

740
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: the one time that you're probably looking to be the

741
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: last time I should say you're looking to coach a team.

742
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: So I would hope that he gets an interry with

743
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers would be fantastic. Outside of him, it's a

744
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: lot of the same kind of names that we've been

745
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: been talking about. You know, Todd Monkin is kind of

746
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: the other Ravens offensive coordinator, but he was a guy

747
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: we were very interested in potentially being the offensive coordinator

748
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: for the Chargers before he chose the Ravens. And then

749
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: the defensive backgrounds here I think are very interesting because

750
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: the defenses are all from different worlds. You're talking about

751
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: Steve Wilks, who has a variety of experiences, Aaron Glenn,

752
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: who's run a variety of defenses dan Quinn's renovarvariety of defenses.

753
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: So I think that is something that stands out to

754
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: me from a defense perspective, is just the ability to

755
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: have that variety. And then a lot of these guys

756
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: are like truly respective leaders, and I think that Obviously

757
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: we've talked about offense versus defense, but at the end

758
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: of the day, like Jeff said, you're trying to find

759
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: the best leader for your team. You're trying to find

760
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: the best person for your team, and if that's a

761
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: defensive guy, I think you make the rest of the

762
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: process work by hiring other people to support him.

763
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Keenan Allen's in his comments didn't say the person

764
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: who can scheme me the most open and throw me

765
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 2: the most targets, that's the person. Now, I'm sure he'd

766
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: prefer that. Of course, of course, every offensive player wants

767
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: to be maximized. But yeah, there are some very very

768
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: good defensive candidates here, most of them with coaching experience.

769
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: So I really do like that. I see where the

770
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: charges are going, and I really do like this list,

771
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: and it's only going to grow. Today is Tuesday, the ninth,

772
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: and I'm sure we'll get five more candidates by the

773
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: time this thing airs tomorrow.

774
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a bunch of coaching candidates come out

775
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: yesterday and then we've had a couple more today as

776
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: well as the interviews with Gift Smith and Kellen Moore.

777
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: What do you make of them interviewing the two in

778
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: house guys. I don't believe that's happened previously. So what

779
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about them interviewing Kellen in Gift today?

780
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: I would be fascinated to know what Kellen Moore would

781
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: say about what having just been the offensive coordinator, how

782
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: he would approach fixing the Chargers and maybe even their offense.

783
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: We don't know for sure how much oversight there was,

784
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: and unfortunately we never saw a team without a head

785
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: coach with Justin Herberts, we don't know what could have changed.

786
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: But I am curious if he had his way on

787
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: offense and there was nobody to oversee him and he

788
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: was the head coach, what would he do? How would

789
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: he fix the Chargers offense? What went wrong this year

790
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: that either they didn't anticipate or they overlooked. What could

791
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: they have done to help? And I think that's important too,

792
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: considering he is there could be their offensive coordinator. Of course,

793
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: he could be their head coach. You could be their

794
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: offense accordinated depending on who they hire as well. So

795
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: I think it's important to pick his brain. And then

796
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: with Giftsmith, I think there is something there in terms

797
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: of just being a leader. They talked about leadership, and

798
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: you talked about and Jeff talked about finding the right leaders,

799
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: and it really does seem like Gift even just from that,

800
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 2: just that alone is a great leader and a great

801
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: candidate for that alone. And this is a guy who's

802
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: been around through three different stadiums, three different coaches, potentially

803
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: a fourth one. Now he's seen a lot. If you

804
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 2: want someone who can tell you about your franchise over

805
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: the years and maybe what went wrong, what's going right,

806
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: what would you change, how could we communicate better? There

807
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: actually isn't a candidate better than Gifsmith in that regard

808
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: because he can tell you I've been here for a

809
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: while and here's what I've seen over the years, and

810
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: no other candidate, no other candidate gets to talk about that.

811
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: I think it's all part of the due diligence. Honestly,

812
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Like I think it is very worthwhile to pick their

813
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: brains about what went wrong this season in earnest and like,

814
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: how would you change things? Okay, gif Smith, like Klomack

815
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: has spoken up for you.

816
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: Why is that?

817
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: You know, Justin Hubert has said he really believes in

818
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and his vision. Why do you think that is?

819
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Like what would you change? How would you take it

820
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: to the next step? And I think obviously Kellen Moore

821
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: specifically can speak to you know, what this offense could

822
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: look like in year two, And Justin Hubberd was asked

823
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: about that yesterday and the advantages of having a second

824
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: year or beyond in the same offensive coordinator, same scheme.

825
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: So I think it's all part of the due diligence.

826
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I think Giff did a fantastic job of riding the

827
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: ship over the last three weeks and that that really

828
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: was all we could ask is that the team was

829
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: competitive across the final three games. I mean they were

830
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: like thirteen and a half point underdogs against the Buffalo Bills.

831
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: It would have been very easy for, you know, an

832
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: interim head coach to come into this situation and not

833
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: be able to rally the troops. I know they didn't win,

834
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: but obviously they were missing a ton of key key

835
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: players as well. But you're playing against a team who

836
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: just earned the two seed in the AFC. This is

837
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: a team that has an MVP candidate at quarterback. It

838
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: would have been very easy for them to just kind of,

839
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: you know, mail it in, so to speak, and lose

840
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: these three games. But give Smith did a fantastic job

841
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: of getting them competitive, getting these team to fight again

842
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: like we had seen them previously do. And you saw

843
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: that show up and guys like Easton Stick and Khalue

844
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Mack obviously in two Lee and Derwin James at Alohi Gillman,

845
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: you could tell there was just more buy in I

846
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: think with Giff Smith's vision, And I would want to

847
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: know why is that. You know, you've been a position

848
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: coach for a lot of years for us, What would

849
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: you change differently from what you've seen? So I think

850
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: that definitely is a part of the due process, and

851
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: I think those two hopefully took advantage of those two

852
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: interviews today.

853
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: Yes, in particular with Kellen Moore, I think the Chargers

854
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: understand that they have had guys like Sirianni on their

855
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: coaching staff before, and they've had Shane Steichen on their

856
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: coaching off before and Frank Reich, who wasn't a super

857
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: successful head coach, but he became one. You don't officially

858
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: and easily want to let Kellum Moore out despite I

859
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: know Chargers fans have been frustrated with the offense, the

860
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: protection plan in particular, and then the run in the run game,

861
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: of course, but you just want to either be sure

862
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: or know more or whatever it is, because it's not

863
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty was a great offensive season where there

864
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: was no protection issues and a great run game. It

865
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: was opposite. The protection issues weren't quite there and the

866
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Speaker 2: run game wasn't great in twenty twenty with Shane Steiken.

867
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Speaker 2: But now you look at what he's done with the

868
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: Colts and you think, hey, that's a heck of a

869
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: head coach, and he's turned things around, and it seems

870
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: like they've turned I mean, they almost made the postseason

871
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: with Gardner Minshew at quarterback, So I think that is

872
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: worth them exploring, like, hey, let's let's do our due

873
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: diligence just to make sure because we might have had

874
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: Shane Sniken already. Hear, and he left, and I understand

875
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: why he did, and I think he only grew as

876
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: much as he did by going to the Eagles and

877
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: being with Syrian and that sort of thing. He's a

878
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: different coach, but you want to just double check and

879
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: do your due diligence there.

880
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can. I think that's a great way

881
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Speaker 1: of putting that. You can see what kind of room

882
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Speaker 1: for improvement or growth there is when you interview them

883
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: in this kind of setting, too.

884
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Speaker 2: I think is super important.

885
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: We'll touch on the GM candidates and that list on

886
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: our own show. We're kind of running short on time,

887
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: so we'll do that on our own channel later this week.

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Speaker 1: We do have to end today, unfortunately, by talking about

889
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Speaker 1: the potential likely retirement of mister Corey.

890
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: Lindsey.

891
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: Obviously came out after the Minnesota Vikings game that he

892
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: was dealing with.

893
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: A heart issue.

894
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: He spoke a little bit about it yesterday when he

895
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: spoke to the media. Looked twenty five thirty pounds lighter,

896
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: which he spoke about was kind of the process here,

897
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: but paraphrasing on the details. Essentially, he had a red

898
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: flag come up last May, and then during the season

899
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: he was not feeling like himself and so obviously Corey

900
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: Lindsley's health first and foremost, we hope he's able to

901
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: live a long and healthy life and be able to

902
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Speaker 1: be a dad and be physically active with his kids

903
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But he said that there's a

904
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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent chance that he does retire at this point.

905
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: He'll have a final test, so to speak, in March,

906
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: and then that's kind of when they'll have, you know,

907
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: I assume a formal announcement. So it's just unfortunate. We

908
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: kind of expected this based off of heart issue. Anytime

909
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: you have something like this come out in a football player,

910
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: it's just it's a tough thing to stomach.

911
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: Man.

912
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: But we wish Corey nothing but the best. He is

913
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: one of the best Chargers who has ever come in

914
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: as a free agent, at least in my lifetime. Tyler,

915
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: what do you think this means to the team and

916
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: what do you think of Corey as in his time

917
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: in general as a Charger.

918
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he joined the Chargers and had a market resetting

919
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: contract and I don't think Chargers fans even looked at

920
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: it for the last two years because it's that's how

921
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: good he was. We didn't care how much money he made. Frankly,

922
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: if he asked for a raise, We'd say, sure, because

923
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: he was somehow underpaid and underrated, one of the best

924
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: players in the NFL. You know, before Corey Linsley got here,

925
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers centers the previous two years allowed fifty five pressures.

926
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Speaker 2: You know, Corey Linsley sends twenty twenty one, just twenty two.

927
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: Things are just different. He's a pro off the field,

928
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: of course, and a great guy and an All Pro

929
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: on the field, so that the Chargers are going to

930
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: miss him, and they have missed him. You saw it

931
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: on the field, Corey Linsley, despite being former All Pro,

932
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: highest paid center, everyone knows his name, he was still

933
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: somehow underrated. You know. I don't think we understood how

934
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: much of a loss there would be. But it's striking

935
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: how much football can mean to us as fans and

936
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: to players and to coaches, and how important it is

937
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: to us, and then how in just in one instance

938
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter anymore, and family and health and

939
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: those things matter so much more. Those those things are

940
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: the priorities. So wish him truly nothing but the best.

941
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: I hope things obviously work out, that the health is

942
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: maintained and better, and if he is doing the Nick

943
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: Hardwick reversal from offensive linemen to nice and slender and trim.

944
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Go for it, man, let me know what your secret is.

945
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, you know, Corey is just a He was

946
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: so good and like every single time, every single Monday,

947
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: I would turn on the tape and Corey Lindsay's one

948
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: of the first guys that just stands out and just

949
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: truly the definition of an elite center. And like how

950
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: much of an advantage the Chargers had with him in there,

951
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: It cannot be overstated. Like you're talking about a guy

952
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: who was tops in the league in twenty twenty one

953
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two and pressures allowed, pass blocking efficiency,

954
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: run blocking grade, and even this year when he wasn't

955
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: feeling like himself, according to his own words, he was

956
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: still playing at a really high level. Obviously, you know we,

957
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: like I.

958
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 3: Said, we wish his health nothing but the best.

959
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: But then this season too, you know, Eric Smith a

960
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: great feature about the leadership role that Corey Lindsay has

961
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: taken over the last three years and continue to take

962
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: this year. Jamari Sawyer said that at some point after

963
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: the decision where he was going to be placed on

964
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: the NFL list, he was doing like goal line cut

965
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: ups and like watching tape with the guys, and he

966
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: was still very involved in the daily operation of the Chargers.

967
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: And I think that really says a lot to me

968
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: about the kind of teammate, mentor player that Corey Lindsey is,

969
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: because he was still all in on the team even

970
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: despite his heart issues, and he was still trying to

971
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: help them solve problems. He was still trying to help them,

972
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, be the best players that they could be.

973
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: Jamari spoke about how Corey was one of the first

974
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: players to reach out to him and how much that

975
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Speaker 1: meant to him, and Corey was able to like express

976
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: his belief in Jamari's talent, and I think you see

977
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: the leadership, you see the ability to be a difference

978
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: maker on the field, But just as a person, I

979
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: think we've heard so much much about who Corey Linsley

980
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: is and the Chargers are going to miss him. This

981
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: is a huge hole that he's going to.

982
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: Leave on this roster.

983
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: In the locker room, guys like Rashaun Slater, Jamari Zion,

984
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: they're all going to have to pick up the slack

985
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: next year in terms of their play on the field

986
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: as well as their leadership. We've seen something that come

987
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: to fruition, and particularly from Rashaun Slater. But this is

988
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: a huge deal and it's unfortunate that I came to

989
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: this because Corey Linsley, like like I said, was one

990
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: of my favorite players every single money to turn on

991
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: the tape and see what he was doing and just

992
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: the advantage he was creating for this Charters team. So

993
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss watching him play, I really am. And

994
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that going around with his team.

995
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: But Corey Linsley in his short time with the Chargers

996
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: left such a mark and I will forever, you know,

997
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: cherish the moments I had watching tape, hearing about his interview.

998
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: I got to ask him a question at training camp,

999
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: so it was it's a It was a true treat

1000
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: watching Corey Lindsay play football for the Los Angeles Charters.

1001
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely wishing him nothing but the ut.

1002
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna do it for us today. Hopefully you

1004
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed the show. As always, make sure you are

1005
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: liking the videos, commenting, subscribing obviously if you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: we enjoy all the ratings and reviews, and again thanks

1007
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: to Jeff Diamond for joining us. Hopefully you guys enjoyed

1008
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: that interview today, so that'll do it for us today.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you at the same time next week, maybe

1010
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Speaker 1: with some coaching, some more coaching, and GM updates. We'll see,

1011
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: but as always, check us out on our own channel.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys later full time