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Speaker 1: Hello, Bill, How are you all right? Hark Clint coach?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing all right? So you got a long

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Speaker 1: flight home, a rough night down there in Houston, you

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Speaker 1: get back here today. Obviously you've looked at all of

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Speaker 1: the footage of last night's game, and what conclusion do

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Speaker 1: you come to? Yeah, well, they were better than we

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Speaker 1: were last night unfortunately. So you know, we had some

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Speaker 1: chances and you know, we get some good things, but

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Speaker 1: not enough. And we've all got to do a better job.

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Speaker 1: Coaching staff, players is all gonna do a better job.

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Speaker 1: You know. Games like this for me are just um,

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Speaker 1: I guess, just I guess they're more frustrating in my

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Speaker 1: own right now. Yeah, Yeah, are more frustrating than normal

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Speaker 1: games because there's so many little things that if you

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Speaker 1: just tighten up some of those little things, it's a

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Speaker 1: completely different outcoming. And I'm gonna go with the glasses

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Speaker 1: half full today, you know, because I look at that

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Speaker 1: third series in the third quarter when the offense went

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Speaker 1: down and scored, but they had so many penalties, three

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Speaker 1: penalties in that drive, lots of third and longs first

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Speaker 1: and twentys first and thirty. It was like overcoming challenge

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Speaker 1: after challenge So to me, that's that's a good sign.

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Speaker 1: That's a sign of Listen, even though we're down, they're

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Speaker 1: still fighting and we had all these challenges, We're still

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Speaker 1: able to make it, make it happen and get some

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Speaker 1: points out of it. That's got to be I guess

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Speaker 1: a brighter side, and I guess in the based on

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Speaker 1: the way things went for you guys, we had our moments. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had our moments. We we did some good things, um,

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Speaker 1: but we weren't able to sustain enough and we didn't

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Speaker 1: do enough good things at the right time to you know,

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Speaker 1: have the result we wanted. So, um, when when you

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Speaker 1: with the injuries, so Ted Carress goes down, well, did

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Speaker 1: you guys have to limit would you guys limit what

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Speaker 1: you were capable of doing? You know, based on just

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Speaker 1: you know, based on the injuries. James parents has been

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Speaker 1: with us. He's taking a lot of snaps certainly in

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Speaker 1: practice in preseason, um some of the game. But he

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Speaker 1: just no, he did finding there there were no issues

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Speaker 1: in that. So on that first drive, you guys keep

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Speaker 1: on thinking. First eleven plays, nine of them were runs

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Speaker 1: and Sony's running ball well, Rex at a couple of them,

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Speaker 1: but that was seemed like that was about it with

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Speaker 1: that run. Did they do something defensively to kind of

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Speaker 1: make you guys change that because it looked like that

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Speaker 1: first drive you're gonna try to run the ball today,

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Speaker 1: and that seemed like the only drive you were effective

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Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, I don't think I really saw that way. Look,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what we ended up pressing.

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Speaker 1: What do we end up rushing for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five? Then all come in that drive?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. So yeah, we look, we had

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Speaker 1: that you know, weren't so good. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at the offense and obviously Brady was frustrated with it,

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Speaker 1: and you look at the younger receivers and you're deep

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Speaker 1: into the season, how do you match that all up

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Speaker 1: where you want to get them involved? Okay, and yet

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Speaker 1: you're twelve games into the season right now and some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff is just not worth well it just

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Speaker 1: keep working out. Again, I think everybody can do a

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Speaker 1: better job. So you know, we'll we'll pitch in and

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Speaker 1: try to try to be more productive, more efficient. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you guys have so Nick Folk gets, hasn't Gets.

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Speaker 1: It's like he earned it. Has an emergency appendectomy on

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Speaker 1: I think Thanksgiving, you guys cut him. Um, is there

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever dealt with something like

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna heal shirts? Yeah? Mean does he have

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna dieus. Yeah. I just feel like this

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Speaker 1: the kicky situation is it's got to been uh been

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Speaker 1: you guys had that illness that hit the team later

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Speaker 1: affect your team at all. Did you have to rotate

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Speaker 1: Look it's you know, it wasn't perfect, but it's a

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Speaker 1: national football there. You guess, games go on and we

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Speaker 1: We'll be ready to play that one too. Did they

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Speaker 1: do anything specifically to kind of get matchups maybe against

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Speaker 1: some of your linebackers, some of the short passes across

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Speaker 1: they normally do. Yeah, they have a pretty diversified offense. Um,

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Speaker 1: and it makes the formations up, move the receivers around

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Speaker 1: fuller Stills and Hopkins, and quarterback got out, you know,

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Speaker 1: got away from a couple of potential sacks or tackles

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Speaker 1: it was any one thing specifically, but we had we

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Speaker 1: you see teams when team has had success against you

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Speaker 1: doing something that you see another team do it again.

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Speaker 1: It looked like a couple of times they had a

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Speaker 1: but no, no, we see I would say copycat plays

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Speaker 1: that showed up last night. That's been showing up all

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Speaker 1: not uncommon at all. It's what a lot of offensive

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Speaker 1: So do you anticipate this going into these games? Saying,

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Speaker 1: because you always talk about you play to your strengths,

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Speaker 1: going to see this. Yeah. Well that's why it's so

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Speaker 1: important to watch the film after the game, to correct

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Speaker 1: So there was something out in the game. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: But that really wasn't a big problem in the game.

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Speaker 1: second down. So when it comes to red zone offense,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the most important thing to be a successful

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Speaker 1: hand the ball off and run it in. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: amount of space you have to throw. On offense, everything's

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to get a hat on everybody. But

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Speaker 1: that's always preferable to trying to throw it into a

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Speaker 1: had ten snaps afterwards. Yeah, yeah, so no, that definitely

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Speaker 1: we all got to do a better job coaches players

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Speaker 1: of the offense. Obviously he's a talent's first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: and you just thought two weeks of practice, three weeks

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Speaker 1: or that game would be elevated. Yeah. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: this week we had all five receivers active, which we

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Speaker 1: us a little bit. Offensive play years some more options,

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Speaker 1: and I think all those guys played, Oh, they definitely

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Speaker 1: had three receivers active. So he scored a touchdown, you

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Speaker 1: could run a play and then something changed. Yeah, well, no,

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Speaker 1: Tom made a good decision their own play we had called.

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Speaker 1: He didn't feel good about it, and I can see

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Speaker 1: a few guys started wearing them. Then you know everybody

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Speaker 1: Did they tell you kind of who the top hundred

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Speaker 1: you enjoy going back and watching maybe getting to know

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Speaker 1: some of these players, maybe more than you already did. Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: absolutely no, I love that. Um well, as far as

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Speaker 1: and so when we um, when we voted, you know,

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Speaker 1: all of them. Um, well, there's some current players that

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Speaker 1: So UM, since I was a part of that UM

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Speaker 1: another player from another era that played both ways, who

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Speaker 1: may not have been as good as the guys now

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Speaker 1: played one position, but he played every play. He played offense, defense,

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Speaker 1: special teams and all that. A lot of cases these

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Speaker 1: So it was it was hard to do that. But

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Speaker 1: of a lot of the players that were UM that

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen from you know, the thirties and the

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Speaker 1: and mostly it was these guys, you know, the guys

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Speaker 1: Markuetty and guys like that Lennymore. I forget who I

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Speaker 1: talked about, but it was players that kind of fell

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Speaker 1: from a running back to a receiver. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: was very fast. That's enough doubt in my mind he

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Speaker 1: would have been a you know, a great defensive back

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Speaker 1: the thirties or forties, if that had been his era.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know, I gave personally a lot of UM,

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Speaker 1: I would say value to players like that like Lawrence Taylor, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like that that would to me even

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Speaker 1: though they were one way players, had they played in

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Speaker 1: two way era, they would have no problem being great

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Speaker 1: two way players as well. Um Field Yates reporting that

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Speaker 1: you have cut for beth. Um. If you found another kicker,

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Speaker 1: you're moving on. I think that's all we have for

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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, all right, coach, what do you think

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Speaker 1: driver of the week? Um I got I only to

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Speaker 1: help you with this one. Okay, this is the one

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Speaker 1: I was listen. This is the one I thought was

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Speaker 1: just kind of interesting because you guys, may mean offense

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Speaker 1: put themselves in a bunch of crappy situations. Big play

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Speaker 1: then a Julian Edelman offensive pass in affairs and then

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Speaker 1: a James White offensive holding. So you went from the

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Speaker 1: third and seventeen to a first and twenty to a

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Speaker 1: James White. I felt like that was a just a

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Speaker 1: tough drive for them. It was very tough. It's like

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Speaker 1: just grind, talking about grind to get out. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: there's your drive of the week. Third and seventeen. Watson, right,

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Speaker 1: was that that that it'll checkdown. Yeah it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got a eight or nine yard pass and then broke

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Speaker 1: a tackle and got about twenty five yards out of it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well I those long yards. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to throw the ball twenty five yards

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Speaker 1: or twenty yards whatever you need for the first down.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes the catch and run play, if you can

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Speaker 1: break a tackle, gives you that opportunity. All right, you

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Speaker 1: can save it for next Monday. Good drives and uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm good Sunday afternoons, Cannon. We can do that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Some of the coach has been brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Putnam Investments. Putnam Investments in the New England Patriots proud

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Speaker 1: partners committed to an active game plan on and off

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Speaker 1: the field. We'll see you here next Monday. Good luck,

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Speaker 1: it's Kansas City, all right, sounds good, Glenn, Christian Louke,

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