1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Boyfriend or something who is at Dallas. You're going to 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Dallas Baptists. But well, what a great university it is 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: up there. I've got some great friends who are graduates 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: of Washatall Baptists and been on campus. Great buildings, beautiful campus. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful campus. It's a wonderful campus. They have 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: the Cliff Harris Stadium. There do beautiful news sautiful news 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: stadium and they're astroturff in the stadium this year. Oh 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: really Yeah. I can't tell anybody this yet, but it's 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: just us. My mother and grandmother went to Henderson Methodist. 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: My dad went to Washtall Baptists. So I have a 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of mixed theologies in my mixed theology. You mean 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: they're tearing up the turf that you stomped on. They 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: are glad they are that's you know. Uh, I mean, 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: what can you do better than artificial turf? Right? Well, 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: kick things off tonight. What do you think of this 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: cowboy team? It's headed to the playoffs. It's so excited fighting. 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: It takes me back, It really does, because I think 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: this is a team that is a young team developing, 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: and you particularly from a defensive standpoint, because It takes 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: me back to the year of nineteen seventy five, the 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Dirty Dozen and the Dirty Dozen and the players that 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: transitional year that the defense really were was such a 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: critical part of the development of that year. Of course, 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: we went to u that we were beaten early in 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: the year. We didn't have a very good record. Everybody 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: really counted us out, and all of a sudden we 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: came alive and we ended up with in Super Bowl 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: ten with the Pittsburgh Steelers. We should have we should 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: have beaten the Steelers in that game. But it's there 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: is an excitement that's generated through youth, you know, And 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: you can see that on the air when I see 32 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Vandersch and Jalen Smith going up and after it, and 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: it's really it's really fun to watch that and all 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the young players that the new name guys that are 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: up there bring excitement and energize the team, you know. 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be hopefully one of 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: those years that we're going to surprise a lot of folks. 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: And you could see it as this season progressed, you know, 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: the first half of the year. You could see the 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: youth and I was talking to Bradsham about it today, 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: and he kind of described it as a kid who 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: goes into puberty the first half of the year, becomes 43 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: a teenager, gets his driver's license, and second half of 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: here and now he's graduated high school, he's heading into college, 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: he's got offers from Division one schools, division two schools, whatever. 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: We're about to find out what level he's gonna play at. 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: They don't know what they can do. They don't know 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: what they can do. They don't know what they can't do. 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, you kind of we were so discouraged with 50 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: Shawn Lee coming out and being injured and not being 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: there because he was such any still is such a 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: great player, inspirational leader. And then what happens. Then all 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, vanderesh, bigger guy starts smacking guys and 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: making big plays. So all of a sudden, you know, 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: there is a change. It's just kind of a you know, 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: this might be the new generation, and that's what I'm 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: kind of hoping for. And you and you credit Will McClay, 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones and everyone looking forward. And in 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: the draft last year, there's a lot of criticism in 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: this past draft that they took a linebacker in the 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: in the first round, when there was some other positions 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: available at that point. But they had done their their 63 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: due diligence on Layton Vanderesh with just one real year 64 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: of college experience under his belt at Boise State, and 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: lo and behold look what they found. That's right. Well, 66 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's kind of a I mean, 67 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: I hate to talk about myself here, but you know, 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I came out of Washtaw Baptists and I was a 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: second string junior varsity quarterback in Hot Springs, Arkansas in 70 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: my junior year. So so you transfer and I went 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: to Dessert to a little small town and I was 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback and I we quarterback to undefeated team and 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: you take off. So you never know about guys. And 74 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: this kind of gets back to my talk about this, 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: but my award this year it's kind of similar to 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: that because we've picked a kid that, uh, that's going 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: to be a something good, that we think is going 78 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: to be has a great potential in future. But back 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys, I think it's you know, it's so 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: it's so so fun to watch youth develop and I see, 81 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're seeing right now. Is a 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: useful team, all of us starting to figure out who 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: they are. Sean Lee was such a great player, and 84 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: we were like, oh gosh, we you know, we lost 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: team and whoa man. He would win and he brought 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Vandresh along and taught him and he's he's smacking him 87 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: pretty well. Were you able to pull yourself away from 88 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: looking at the lake to watch the game on Sunday 89 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: against the Giants? Oh my gosh, yes, we had a person. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: The signal was not great, but but we had. Oh 91 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, what an exciting game that was. We were 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: sitting on the side of the hill up there and 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: overlooking it and I was like them, My wife was saying, 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: calm down. So you still get excited watching the games? 95 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, I really do. I mean, you know, 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean the game because of what it meant was 97 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: really was really not nothing. And but when you see 98 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: that internal fire that goes on with that team and 99 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: watch them and want to know that they they're young 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: and they want to win, it was so fun to 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: see this. Let me ask you about that, because there's 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: so much talk going into the week about you kind 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: of alluded to it to being a meaningless game as 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: far as the standings are concerned, But you would never 105 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the players in that locker room, the coaches, they consider 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: them all to be meaningful games. I don't remember back 107 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: in your day as a fan watching the cow Boys 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties and even in the sixties, 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember me meaningless people resting players on the 110 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: last game of the season, even if you had the 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: division clinched and stuff. Remember that Tom didn't say, hey, Cliff, 112 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: we don't seem out. I can tell you I don't 113 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: remember that. But I do remember one time when coach 114 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Landry said, you know, one time and it upset me. Said, 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: all we need to do is when three out of 116 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the four next games now, And psychologically it upset me 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: because I said, wait a minute, we've got the Giants 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: for playing next week. But I think that in reverse 119 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: it really affected us in a way that we ended 120 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: up beating the Giants and going into the playoffs. But um, 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: but I it's it's a really interesting situation that they're in, 122 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: and I think that they um with with everything that 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: going on. The young guys, they don't think about the record, 124 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: They don't think about what the thing's going on. They 125 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: just they're just gonna play football and they're out there 126 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: to do one thing and that's win. And I that's 127 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: one thing that I like about Dak Prescott. He is 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: a winner. We can talk about. I can tell you 129 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: he throws not great passes, but I know other great 130 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that had the burning desire to not just throw 131 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: percentages wise and make all these stats, but they were winners. 132 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: And I can tell you I think Dak Prescott is 133 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: one of those guys. I think he's gonna come around. 134 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: He's going to show you that he can hit the 135 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: deacon win and he can. I'm going out on a 136 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: limb here. I'm gonna say that he's going to be able. 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: To give him time, but he's going to be able 138 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: to be a real winner for the Cowboys. Can you 139 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: can you uh kind of sense his leadership skills from afar? 140 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yes. And you know the thing that 141 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Dak does that I watch on the sidelines and see 142 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: everything else. He's so inspirationally. He goes into the sideline 143 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: and he pumps the guys up, he talks to him, 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: he passed him on the back. He doesn't just go 145 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: sit on the sidelines and you know, quietly and just, 146 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: but he gets those those guys going. That is the 147 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: kind of quarterback that wins in the NFL, are wins 148 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: in life. And you know what when when Jerry talked 149 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: to Roger about the same thing, and Roger said, you 150 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: can find quarterbacks and you can find guys a throw 151 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: for a percentage, but your quarterback better be a leader. Yes, 152 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: guys better want to follow him. Follow him. You guys 153 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: would have followed Roger to the end of the earth 154 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: probably still. Yeah, I still buys lunch every now and then, 155 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: so you know, see, that's the same true leadership. He 156 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: gets you. He figures out a way that you feel 157 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: compelled to buy the lunch. Well, no, but he always 158 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: buys it. I just try to. That's like, that's like 159 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, the offensive lineman decided they 160 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: were going to get all together and go and take 161 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: Roger to lunch. And they did it at a big, 162 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: fancy club on the top floor, and their intention was 163 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: to pay for lunch. Right, So they got done and 164 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: everybody's like, Okay, where's the bill, and it's already take 165 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: care of it. Yeah, he already paid for them. Every 166 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: time that we get together and talk about and have 167 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: lunch together. Super Bowl thirteen comes up and he says, 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: what happened in Super Bowl Thirst? Why didn't we win? 169 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: What happened is and it still eats it? Oh my gosh, 170 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: he said, both of us. Yeah, yeah, it drives me 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: crazy that we should have won though when I was 172 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: ten and thirteen. Yeah, I don't want you know, going there, 173 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: but well, Danny Serek has a wireless microphone here, so 174 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: anyone in attendance here at the Cowboys Club and the 175 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: club is filling up. I guess everyone has heard that 176 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris is that's right. See what happened. If you 177 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: have a question for Cliff Harris, find Danny over here 178 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: and U with the wireless microphone. 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I'll a back about the sideline, throw 236 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: deep the road yard line the Paris that a scepter. 237 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Then four was there, but Cliff got them all in 238 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: front of Gen Washington and the Cowboys, thank Harb on 239 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: their own five yard line with one second left. There 240 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: it is the Cowboys the champion. How about that Bill 241 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Mercer with the call on the Cowboys radio network, And 242 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: that was what nineteen seventy one NFC Championship game of 243 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: fourteen to three win over the forty nine ers, and uh, 244 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris and the Cowboys were headed to the Super Bowl. 245 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: How about this? It was on January second, whoa nineteen, 246 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: let's not talk about let's let's do the bath on that. 247 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: It's forty No way. So the Cowboys ended up Yeah, 248 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys ended up winning the game fourteen to three. And 249 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: there was a second in one play at the Cowboys 250 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: forty nine and that was John Brody for anybody, that 251 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: historical factor, uh, trying to throw to Gen Washington. So 252 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: what'd you do? Take the interception away from mel Renfrew? No? 253 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? It sounded like he got his way. 254 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: But in any way, it clinched the NFC UH championship, 255 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys went on to the Super Bowl and 256 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: and won that year. Uh. And in that that they 257 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: clinched John Brody was fourteen of thirty four, one hundred 258 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: and forty yards and the Cowboys picked them three times. Wow, 259 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: that's and you've got the last one at the five 260 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: yards on the one that it counted it. That's right. Yeah, 261 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: closed the door on that, Bill Mercies. So that was 262 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: a fourteen to three win. And then of course then 263 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: then into the Super Bowl, the Cowboys beat the Dolphins, 264 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: where world champions for the first time. Twenty four to 265 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: three was the final score in that game we had 266 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: we had. You know, young guys don't know, they don't 267 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: they they're just they're just involved in the system and 268 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: going along and trying to do the best they can. 269 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Once you're there, you know, eight nine years, you start 270 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: to realize how difficult it is to get to a playoff, 271 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl and all those things. But 272 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: when you're young, you're just doing everything you can. And 273 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: it's so much fun to because I relate to that 274 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: that young team that goes out there today and does 275 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: the same things. You know, because I think that they 276 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: don't know what they can achieve, but I think that 277 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: that but they can. I think they can get there. 278 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: You know. One of the amazing things about that nineteen 279 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: seventy one season. You talk about this season a three 280 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: and five record, the first half of the year seven 281 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: and one. The second half of the year nineteen seventy 282 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: one was the year where we had the quarterback shuttle 283 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: here oh yeah, sho plays in between played. It was 284 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Craig Morton and Roger Staubach at twenty three to nineteen 285 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: lost to Chicago. Losing that game, the Cowboys had a 286 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: four and three record. The next day, Roger Staubach is 287 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: named the starting quarterback and didn't lose a game the 288 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: rest of the way, ten straight wins, win the Super Bowl. Yeah, 289 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I think there was a destiny. 290 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, Roger was such a great player, so it 291 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: was Craig Morton. There were two different style players, and 292 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: I think that the Landry system fit Roger better and 293 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: he related to it, and he's such a great player 294 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: and a great leader and came through for us for 295 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: so many years, you might the thought this NFL stuff 296 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: was a piece of cake. You show up in seventy 297 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: they go to the Super Bowl, seventy one year, second 298 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: year you go again and win it. Do you just 299 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: think that was like in the NFL. Well, in ten 300 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: years in the NFL you went to five Super Bowls. Yeah, well, 301 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, we went to nine out of ten of 302 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: championship games. And the ten years I was there, and 303 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: it just got to be a normal situation for us 304 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: and expected of us. And I think that that that team, 305 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: through the leadership of Roger and coach Landry and Leroy Jordan, 306 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: who I think was such a critical element, and Bob 307 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Lily from a leadership standpoint of that they'd suffered through 308 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: so many years of being close and being beaten by 309 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: in great games that they wanted to win so bad 310 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: and they inspired us and the young guys to win. 311 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: So did you know anything about that past history being 312 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: a young guy, because I'm thinking this, like this team 313 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: this year, what's going to come up this week as well? 314 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: The Cowboys? You know, they just don't win in the playoffs. 315 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: These guys don't really have anything to do with it. 316 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: Most of them have only been here for one playoff 317 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: game and they're gonna they're gonna bring up, Oh, you're 318 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: two and nine since nineteen se and if I'm chitubeo woozy, 319 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm going not me. I didn't lose a playoff game. Well, 320 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: I was wondering if you were aware of the Cowboys 321 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: previous history of losing those big games. Well, I can 322 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: tell you this. In my first year with the Dallas Cowboys, 323 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: I made the starting lineup and Bob Lilly came over 324 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: to me in the first game that we've played and 325 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I was only rookie starter. He said to me, we're 326 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl this year, rookie, and I 327 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: don't want you to do anything to So there was 328 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: I was there with a veteran team that had been 329 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: suppressed for a long time. You know, this is an 330 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: interesting and that's an interesting thing because you know that 331 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: team that I was talking about in the seventy five, 332 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: they were a young group. They were just athletic and 333 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: really good players and inspired. And but there's some internal 334 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: thing that goes on that is watching the Dallas Cowboys 335 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: and knowing they hadn't been to the really a championship 336 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: in playoff for twenty years, and we're close but not there, 337 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: and this is the best chance since the last time, 338 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I think, since we played Seattle again and lost it 339 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: well on the very end twelve twelve years ago. It 340 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: will be almost close to the day day January sixth, 341 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: which is is Sunday six two seven. Actually, oh yeah, 342 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: so it's twelve twelve years ago was the loss at Seattle, 343 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: which was Bill Parcell's last game as Cowboys coach. Get 344 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: get a load of this that Super Bowl win against 345 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The starting defensive lineup for the Cowboys. In 346 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: the secondary, you had Herb Adderley, and mel Renfro At cornerbacks, 347 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: Cornell Green and Cliff Harris were the samefies. The linebackers 348 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: are Leroy Jordan in the middle a Super Bowl MVP, 349 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: Chuck Hallie and Dave Edwards the outside linebackers, and the 350 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: front four anchored by Bob Lilly in the middle, Jethro 351 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: Pugh at defensive tackle, and the ends were Larry Cole 352 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: and George and Dre. That's pretty salty. That was a 353 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: pretty salty team. I can tell you I was glad 354 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: to be pulled along in that draft, you know, I 355 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: mean the draft of the right win, not of that 356 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: all right, because I was a free agent again. Yeah, 357 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: that's right, college free agent. I don't watch it. Dab 358 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: Baptist Danny Serek has the wireless microphone. Hello Danny, Hi, 359 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: guys if your first question tonight comes from Oscar from Dallas. Hey, Cliff, Hi, everybody. 360 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: Charlie Waters and you, Cliff, where the best safeties of 361 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: that era? Who wasn't better? Charlie is my great friend, 362 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: and we're trying to do We're trying right now. There's 363 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: an effort going through to try to get Charlie Waters. 364 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked that Oscar um into the Ring 365 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: of Honor because I think he's one of those guys 366 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: that uh was an inspirational part of the team and 367 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: a great player, and he used to be in the 368 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor and forty one career interception, so he 369 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: was just perfect for his number forty one. You know, 370 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: we worked together so well as a team. I couldn't 371 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: have been the player that I was without having Charlie 372 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: as my counterpart there in the secondary, you know. And 373 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: we had such a interesting time during that doing that era. 374 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: And he came out of it. You know, he's just 375 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: had twelve Verbebe refuse in his bag, He's had broke 376 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: he's had both his knees replaced. And I said, Charlie, 377 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: how did that happen? He said, Cliff, I took on 378 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: the two hundred and seventy and eighty pound line and 379 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: cut him back to you to make an easy tack on. Okay. 380 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: Oscar asked the question who is the better player? Who 381 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: is the bigger heartthrob? But Charlie Waters or Cliff Harris? Well, 382 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean that it's all depending on who you ask. 383 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: I ask your wife and you were big. There you go? 384 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: How did you guys, How did you guys end up 385 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of hooking up and kind of hitting it off 386 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: and being like, you know, he and his wife, him 387 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: and Charlie Charlie. I mean, it's like you guys became 388 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: Butch Cassidy in the Sunday. Well, I think it came. 389 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that it came through motocross. 390 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: So we both had dirt bikes that we rowed and 391 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: we even rowed them in that during the season time 392 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: about that, No, I did not know about that, and 393 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: would find us and we would write Race Motocross. Of 394 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: course I was, I don't know, better at it than 395 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: because you grew up in the hills of Arkansas. Because 396 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: we were I think that we became really good friends 397 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: during that time and uh uh, and both had any 398 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: were young guys and really a veteran team, and then 399 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: that transformed into a more veteran cham where we became 400 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: the leaders and understood how to uh you know, understand that, 401 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: how how that worked with the with the with the players. 402 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: So h but he was a he's a good friend 403 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: and we wrote you know, a book together which was 404 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: really fun and uh uh it was really a best seller. 405 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Um but we were really we really had We've really 406 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: had a good time over these years. That's a great, 407 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: great guy and a great player. I promise we talk 408 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: about the Cliff Harris Award in this segment, but I want, 409 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: I want to hold it to the next segment because 410 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: we're up against a break and we're going to start 411 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: off the next segment talking about the Cliff Harris Award, 412 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: which is awarded each year to the top defensive player 413 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: from a Division two, Division three or in a college 414 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: or university. And we'll do that when we come back 415 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: on The Cowboys Legend Show with Cliff Harris. 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Bob, Let's 461 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: do the day wheel back to block lefty. Cliff Harris 462 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: at it again as we take a trip down memory 463 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: lane here on the Cowboys Legend Show here at the 464 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Cliff Harris is 465 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: our legends guest. I love the old stuff from the 466 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: pasturs radio nurser with the call. So that was the 467 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: week before that championship game we just talked about. It 468 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: was the NFC Division game and it was on Christmas Day, 469 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: by the way, they were playing at Minnesota. They won 470 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: twenty to twelve, but at the time the score at 471 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: halftime was six to three. And this was the second 472 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: play of the second half and Cliff picks it off 473 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: and returned it to the thirteen and Dwayne Thomas on 474 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: the next play ran thirteen yards for the touchdown. Cowboys 475 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: go up thirteen to three and the rest was history. 476 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: And they even chased Bob Lee out of the game. 477 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: And Gary Quazo came, how about that for a name 478 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: for the fast Vikings quarterbacks of the past, And Dwayne 479 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: Thomas didn't talk to anybody, but oh, that's right exactly, 480 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: and nobody knew why that's right? Ye did you not 481 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: try to talk to him? Oh? I did you know? 482 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: I ran kickoffs back with him and he was my friend, 483 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he just clambed up on me, 484 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't understand why, But I did 485 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: you quit blocking for him? Or what's what was doing on? 486 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: It was across the board. He wasn't talking to anybody. Oh, 487 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. But Gil gil Brandt said, did you 488 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: know that that was the first the Cowboys? Uh we 489 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: played on Christmas Day? That was the first game in 490 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: the NFL that'd been played on Christmas Day. Oh really, 491 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: that's what he was saying the day. Wow. So Gil 492 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: knows all the Yeah, right he does. And you know what, 493 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: and there's no one here that are enough to dispute 494 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: it either or long enough around us. Yeah. Right, just 495 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: dawned on me. This is January second. The Hall of 496 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Fame vote comes up on February second, So one month 497 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: from today, Gil Brandt will be voted into the Pro 498 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. That's my prediction, right. S WBC 499 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: Mortgage brings you the Cowboys Legend Show. For more than 500 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: forty years, SWBC has been helping people companies and financial 501 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: institutions prepared to win in Texas and across the country. 502 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC dot com to learn more. Let's talk about 503 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: the Cliff Harris Award, which goes to the top defensive 504 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: player in the country in Division two, Division three or 505 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: in AIA colleges and universities. And this year's winner, Corey 506 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: Ballantine from Washburn University, a defensive back. Yes, sir, and 507 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: you know there are five hundred and fifty small colleges 508 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: in the United States. I came from a small college myself. 509 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to bring more recognition to these 510 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: players that are great players throughout the United States. Five 511 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty colleges. Every year, we get one hundred 512 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: and fifty nominations from all this SUH Sports Information directors 513 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: and the H and the UM and the athletic directors, 514 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: right they would they send into the Cliff Harris Award 515 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: dot com. That's where they put the information into to 516 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: give these kids a chance. Gosh, they're three years Players 517 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: of the Year. You know, they're all Americans. They're so 518 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: we really have a challenge from so many different angles 519 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: to try to determine the best player. We use scouts 520 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys and other places, and Gil Brand's barely 521 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: involved with it. I've got a committee of Roger and 522 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: Jim Hart from the Charlie Waters and you know, and 523 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: Leroy Jordan and all these guys. We all sit around him. 524 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: We kind of talk about this and trying to figure 525 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: out who's really the player that we think it's going 526 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: to be the the is the best player that's going 527 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: to have not only a chance maybe to play in 528 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: the pros, but the best player in the in these 529 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: small colleges. And we came up with the Corey Ballentine 530 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: from Washburn University. He's a kid that was not highly decorated. 531 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: The pros like him. The the uh, the the the 532 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: statistics show that he's going to be a great player. 533 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: And you know, so we try to balance the D two, 534 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: D three and NAIA to pick from different players throughout 535 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: the year, not necessarily just go to statistical things along, 536 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: but just to give you an idea back up five 537 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: years ago in twenty thirteen, Pierre Jazer, who is now 538 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: is starting defensive back for the Indianapolis Colts. Cowboys just 539 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: saw him last month. He was the winner of the 540 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris Award. Yes, he was Lindonwood out of Lyndonwood 541 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: College out of Saint Louis. So he intercepted the pass 542 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: if you remember that Dak threw a little bit short 543 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: in the in the fourth quarter year went out and 544 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: intercepted that and so he was our first winner. So 545 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: we've got n guys that are playing in the NFL today, 546 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: and we're proud of that. But we're also proud of 547 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: the guys that not are players today that deserve recognition 548 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: for what they've done in small colleges. Because you go 549 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: to the last page in the sports page and you 550 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: see the championship there right, So we're trying to get 551 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: it to the front page. And this Corey Ballantine my 552 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: saw where he's already been incited to the invited to 553 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Yes, And usually when you go through 554 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: and I've been there several times and you look at 555 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: the roster and it's usually not small college kids unless 556 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: they need somebody to fill in. That's from the fact 557 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: that he's been invited there. They must think a lot 558 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: of them great point making because he is really a 559 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: He was a great return guy, Yeah, great return guy, 560 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: and a great cornerback and he enters head passes, so 561 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: they didn't throw against him. So stats aren't his up. 562 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: But he's going to the to the Senior Bowl, and 563 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're looking. So you've watched for Corey 564 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Ballentine that at of Washburn University in the Senior Bowl. 565 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna be ah, he'll be a standout in the pros. 566 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna predict it and he'll be a number one. 567 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: All right. Here, here's just a little stat sheet on 568 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: the Cliff Harris Award. In the five years of the 569 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris Award, eighteen Cliff Harris Award winners or finalists 570 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: have been drafted or signed as free agents. Seven winners 571 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: have been drafted eleven free agents. Fifteen total Cliff Harris 572 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: Award winners or finalists currently with the NFL teams. And 573 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: I noticed one name on here. He blocked a punt 574 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: last week, the Dennis guard Deck. I get to Seattle 575 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: and their Pro Bowl punter out of out of University 576 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: of Texas, the rookie he's out of the University of 577 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: Sioux falls in a scar deck. I do you know 578 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: that because I did the highlight on CBS eleven on 579 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Sunday night. I said, wait, and I'm pretty good about 580 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: names of people on rosters. I said, who's Dinna guard 581 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: Deck And so I looked him. I'm sure enough, and 582 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: he's on the list here University of Sioux Falls, Sue Falls, 583 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: but he's close to Washingtal Baptist University and Arkadelphi, Arkansas. 584 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: That's where I'm so. You know, so it's they're great 585 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: players that that changed the game for the for the 586 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: you know, um um Malcolm Butler, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 587 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: it was one of our finalists. He almost won that 588 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: won it. But you know he's a great player, and 589 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: you should go back and change the history and say, yeah, yeah, 590 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: he won it, right, Just Danny Serek have, Yes, there 591 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: is Danny. How are you? I do have a question 592 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: for you, guys, Cliff, Now your question comes from Drisco. 593 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: From Frisco. Hey, yeah, a lot of oh yeah, I'm 594 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: out here. A lot of people can don't realize maybe 595 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: why you are so famous at least in Cowboy history 596 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: but actually in the NFL, but because you didn't have 597 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: as many interceptions as as Waters or some of the 598 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: other players. But I think a guy named George Allen, 599 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: who is a the coach at Washington or Redskins. You 600 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: have the Redskins. I think he called you the rolling 601 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: butcher knife ball of Booker Knives. I think so. And 602 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: I also understand that. I understand that you wore pads 603 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: that kickers used, and so you had a little more speed, 604 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: a little more mobility. What I mean. Obviously you're known 605 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: for your tackling right and your speed, maybe more so 606 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: than the interceptions. And that's a great question. I appreciate that. 607 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: And I you know, the thing that happens in the 608 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: way that the secondary really works as a free safety 609 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: has an option. He can intercept a pass or he 610 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: can knocked the receiver out. At least in one time 611 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: in my career that you could do that, because today 612 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: they've changed. They're trying to eliminate those hard hits that 613 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: knocked players out. So you have an option to So 614 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: what is going to be the most effective way to 615 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: win the game? You have an option then you can 616 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: either intercept it or knock the guy out. If you 617 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: knocked the guy out, they're going to see it in 618 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: the next week's game, and they're big receivers not going 619 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: to want to come across there and try to catch 620 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: a ball. So it's all a game of cat and 621 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: mouse game between the quarterback of the receivers and so. 622 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 1: But interceptions were critical at times. But I think letting 623 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: people know that you can't come into a certain area 624 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: without because then they had dropped the ball right come 625 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: into a certain area and now it costs you twenty 626 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars I couldn't play to so I can 627 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: play quarterback. So your thoughts on the Cowboys now? Free 628 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: safety Xavier Woods yea turned into a pretty big hitter team. 629 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: He really has turned into it. And you know the 630 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: problem that is so hard, I mean so difficult to 631 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: understand is that when you were going in when i'd 632 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: hit a tackled someone and you commit to it one 633 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: hundred percent, you stay healthy, when you try to hit 634 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: a specific area on a player and try not to 635 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: hit his helmet, it really is going to hurt you 636 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: more than it is the other player. And I think 637 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: it's just, I mean, it's it's really to me. It's 638 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: hard for me to grasp how these players today are 639 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: doing the things they're doing trying to miss a guy's 640 00:37:54,600 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: helmet when and commit to tackling a guy that's running 641 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: full speed and and not hurt themselves. You know, when 642 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: you commit to going in and tackling somebody hard and 643 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: you're one hundred into it, you're going to be healthy. 644 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: But if you try to aims, your bodies all contorted, 645 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: contorted and you're trying to and then all of a 646 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: sudden you hurt your shoulder, your neck, you But you 647 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: know it's an interesting you know it'd be a I 648 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: have thought many times, how would I have? You know, 649 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: that's the thing you have to do in pro football. 650 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: No matter what, you've got to adapt. You've got to 651 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: change the way that you do things to make it 652 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: and to be successful. I was thinking, how what kind 653 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: of a challenge that would be today for me to 654 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: try to change my game to fit to today's rules. 655 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: It's really interesting. Today's an offensively offense oriented game. Now, 656 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: you retired at age thirty one and yet successful business, 657 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: obviously in the energy business of getting started right right there. 658 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: What what went into your decision to retire at that age? 659 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, was it where you just felt like you 660 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: were because your business was going so well that you 661 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: had to devote full time to it, or what I 662 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: had an injury to my neck that left me paralyzed 663 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: on the field, and I knew that I would have 664 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: to change my game as we were talking about today, 665 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: Uh to in my style to play and potentially could 666 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean be paralyzed the rest of my life, 667 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: um and um. And I tackled a quarterback one time 668 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: and laid there on the field and would paralyze. I said, Hey, 669 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: if a quarterback can do this to me, it's time 670 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: to retire. Yeah. Wow. All right. We continue with Cliff 671 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: Harris here on the Cowboys Show and just a ball 672 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: up from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco 673 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: and Jim Beam. 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Back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys 727 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: Legends Show, broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the 728 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. ARCHI play action wats A bunch goes 729 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: out of the right plat fires and intercepted by Cliff 730 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: Harris and he's out of bounce inside the nine yard live. 731 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: Cliff has just intercepted his fifth pass that they hear. 732 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: That sounds like a different broadcaster from the past. I 733 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: believe that the great Vern Lundquist on the call a 734 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: young guy. That's exactly right. Yeah, speaking to young guys. 735 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris is our guest here on the Cowboys Legend Show. 736 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm Bill Jones along with Mickey Speck. No, let give 737 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: us the details on that. That was November sixth, nineteen 738 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: seventy seven, the Super Bowl year for the Cowboys. They 739 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: had just that in that game, they were winning their 740 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: eighth straight twenty four to ten over the Giants. They 741 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: end up going twelve and two that year, and Joe 742 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: Pisarkik was the quarterback and in that game he went 743 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: six of seventeen for sixty one yards. We had a 744 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: safety blitz on all a lot of the time, so 745 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: he was a little nervous about it. Well, and his 746 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: sactom eight times. This gracious, poor guy. No wonder he 747 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: messed up. I was just from the center. Well, that's 748 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: what I was trying to figure out. Okay, that was 749 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: the next seven or two years later? Or was it 750 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: really Joe Pisarchic. Uh, they were running out the clock 751 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: victory formation and he fumbled the football away and they 752 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: lost to the Giants. Is that right? I believe that's right? Yeah, 753 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: like that all right. Danny Serek has the wireless microphone 754 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: and Danny Sirek has a question for Cliff Harris here 755 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys Legend show. Danny, So, Cliff, we found 756 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: a picture of you on a forklift part of a demolition. 757 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: I think Texas Stadium, is that right? That was your 758 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: watch a talk Baptist. So what Texas State? Was Cliff 759 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: Harris Stadium? Right? So it was actually uh the stadium 760 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: that I played in at Washington Baptist University in Arcadelphia, Arkansas. 761 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: They had it set up that they had cut all 762 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: the beams out and uh and I had was on 763 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: a bulldozer and I was going to pull the cable 764 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: and crater at the old stadium. They're going to build 765 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: a new stadium. They were there for an hour. That 766 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: couldn't it would it didn't want to give up the 767 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: old stadium. But who ended up pulling the stadium out? 768 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: What was that fun or is that more sentimental to 769 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: do that for you? Well, it was. It was a 770 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 1: good thing because they changed the stadium from the old 771 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: stadium to the Cliff Harris Stadium. The first stadium was 772 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: not named the Cliff Harris Stadium. So it was a 773 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: very good thing. And if you see and if you 774 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: see the new stadium, vickis we did an interview with them, 775 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: came up up in the press box and they had 776 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: suites up there, and it was really nice for a 777 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: school of that size. Yeah, it's pretty And they're about 778 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: to add an artificial turf to the to the field. Yeah, 779 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: added to it. So it's a pretty cool thing. Close. 780 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel when you walk into 781 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris Stadium. Well, they've been they their record there 782 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: is like twenty four and five, so they so the 783 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: effect of coming into the Cliff Harris Stadium has been positive. 784 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: So I'm happy with here you go if it helps 785 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: it Obviously it's helped with recruiting, I think. I think 786 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: when we did the interview with them there, it was 787 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: a year after it had been established and they were 788 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: undefeated at Yeah. Well we went to the couple of years, right, Yeah, 789 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: we went to the playoffs this year and the D 790 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: two playoffs again were and we went last year as well. 791 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: Dakota North Dakota State, you know, and by the way, 792 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. I saw some of their fans in town. 793 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: They're here once again this year. They're playing at Toyota 794 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: stadiums D two champion Saturday night. Yeah, yep, it's eleven 795 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: o'clock on Saturday morning. I'm gonna go play in Eastern Washington. Yeah, 796 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: how's a D two school's right, they'd been you know, 797 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: that was who beat Washington last year FCS and they've 798 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: won six of the last seven national championships, so they're 799 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: going for seven out of the last eight years. Of course, 800 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz played at North Dakota State. Yes, and yes, 801 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: that's right. How just how amazing is that? Well, there 802 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 1: were great players that come out of D two schools, 803 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: believe it or not. By the way, to coach at 804 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: North Dakota State just became the head coach at Kansas State. 805 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: He's replacing Bill Snyder, a legend at Kansas State. Wow. 806 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: So the other thing Cliff's pretty much involved in is uh, 807 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris j D at our f Reunion Golf Classic. Yes, 808 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: or for Juvenile dial of Beatas Research. And you've been 809 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: doing that for how many years now? Well, I've been 810 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: doing the golf tournament for twenty two years. And uh, 811 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: this Juve Diabetes Research Foundation. My dad was a type 812 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: one diabetic. He was a fighter pilot in World War Two, 813 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: shot down in the South Pacific, paddle to the only 814 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: American occupied island in the South pacifico or I wouldn't 815 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: be here today. But he had type two diabetes and 816 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: was washed out of the Air Force. So I'm committed 817 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: to Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation trying to find a solution 818 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: or improve the complications that exists in diabetes. That's one 819 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: of the things that I'm passionate about. We had all 820 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: our buddies come out there and play golf. It's a 821 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: great deal. He allows me to play in it. And 822 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: we had meeting Joe Green, who's such a great guy. 823 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 1: Because last year was the fortieth anniversary Super Bowl thirteen. 824 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: He was gracious about how that he talked about how 825 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: they beat us, and we had him mind the show 826 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: about a month ago. He's such a great guy. And 827 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,479 Speaker 1: the year before he had Craig Morton there, Yeah, Craig 828 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: Morton Morton forever because it was Super Bowl twelve, which 829 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy seven, you know, uh, And we had 830 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 1: him come out. He's a great guy. And they raised 831 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: i mean the last couple of years over three hundred 832 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you know, three hundred fifty thousand last year 833 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: or in the last couple of years. We rose Race 834 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: Coast a million dollars last couple of years. So anybody 835 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: wants to play golf with Clip, when is it? It's 836 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: in June normally, Okay, it's in June, and we've played 837 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: at Glenn Eagles and Dallas Athletic Club, and we're gonna 838 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: try to decide we're going to do it next year, 839 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: and I've got a great picture with all those former 840 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: Cowboy guys. It's a great picture of me in the middle. 841 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: What a great opportunity to we have a rose my 842 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: former you know buddies come out. Charlie comes out, and 843 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: Randy Wide and Ed Jones and all the guys Mel 844 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: Remfro and Mike Mike Remfro and Roger comes out. So 845 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: we have the guys that don't play actually show up. Yeah, 846 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: they did great. How many former Cowboys live in the area. 847 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: It really is, you know, we've got such a I mean, 848 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what winning does, but over you know, 849 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: going to the playoffs from seventy to eighty every year, 850 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: but one in ten years brings a close bond. Winning 851 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: to us something to bringing guys back together. And there's 852 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: so many wonderful guys and wonderful friends that are live 853 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: here in Dallas that I you know, I feel like 854 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: the my my buddies that were in the secondary were 855 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: like my brothers or younger brothers, and then Drew Pearson 856 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: and there were I took them on like like younger, 857 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: younger brothers. And it's not coincidence when you look at 858 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,720 Speaker 1: the makeup of the players from those teams from the sixties, seventies, 859 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: and eighties, how many of them went on to highly 860 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: successful careers away from football post football careers. Yeah, they've 861 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: been a lot of guys that have been very successful 862 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: and and you know it's you know, it's a tribute 863 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: to the gil Brant but Tom Landry, you know system. 864 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: He was such a wonderful guy. It was such a uh, 865 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: such a committed man of character and faith, uh that 866 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: I was so fortunate have played for him. That brought 867 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: that team together, that was an intelligent team that got 868 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 1: his system because it was not it was a complex, 869 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: a very complex system, and that's what won for us. 870 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: Every time we talked to like the defensive lineman trying 871 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: to play the flex defense, all of them are like, 872 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: we thought Tom was crazy. Yeah, exactly, it didn't you know. 873 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: They they they did what he said and we won 874 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: with it. And uh and uh that's what it made. 875 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: You know. It was a very uh contrary to the 876 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: way that they had done their football throughout their lives. 877 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 1: And the Tom Landry Flex was a winning system that 878 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm an obviously for our tender right last minute here 879 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. The legend show has been great having 880 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: you on, Cliff and uh Vicky. We're gonna keep doing 881 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: this as long as the Cowboys keep winning, right, I'm 882 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: not sure. Well, let's encourage it. Okay, who do we 883 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: need to talk to? It? If the club, if the 884 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: club wants us, we'll do it. Okay, we're going to 885 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Yes, here were several shows. We're gonna 886 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: beat Seattle this year because we've we've got a great 887 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: we've got a great system that we understand the quarterback 888 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: on their team because they're similar to exactly we're gonna 889 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: be all right. So you heard it here first from 890 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 1: Cliff Harris. They're gonna win on Saturday Night over Russell 891 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 1: Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks. Thanks once again to Cliff 892 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: Harris and to you for joining us here on the 893 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys Legend Show from the cow Boys Club here at 894 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 1: the Star in Presco, Texas. 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