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Speaker 1: and out podcast. What a game? What a ball game?

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Speaker 1: That was? That was something it really was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was that lived up to the hype. We'll dive

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Speaker 1: and then we'll just kind of go Cowboy game, Charger

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Speaker 1: Patriot game. Uh. Some NFL owner drama this weekend, some

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Speaker 1: young quarterback thoughts. Of course, the Middlecoff mail Bag at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram slide up into those d

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Speaker 1: You guys know the Also, if you could leave a

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Speaker 1: the show. I appreciate everyone that has and uh we

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Speaker 1: salute you. You know what's funny about this business is,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had a great take. I thought of

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Speaker 1: just the clinic and the partnership that is Lafleur in

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Speaker 1: Rogers and the combination is everything you want. This young,

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Speaker 1: dynamic coach, this veteran superstar Hall of Fame quarterback on

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Speaker 1: the same same wavelength playing chess. It was you know

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Speaker 1: the game they scored, it was thirty to one. They

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Speaker 1: and I had this. I was just like, God, this

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Speaker 1: is just that's football porn, these two guys playing chess.

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Speaker 1: Rogers forever claim McCarthy was a meadead wanted. Someone has

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Speaker 1: dialing up all these plays. But they still let Rogers

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Speaker 1: Tanya knock on Wood didn't tear his knee. Just an

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Speaker 1: incredible performance. And then they turn it over on downs

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Speaker 1: and I go the Packers gonna lose this game. But

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Speaker 1: even then, they're backed up at the one and like

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Speaker 1: no way, boom boom, two passes at the fifty yard line.

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Speaker 1: worst loss, but like my takeaway with Arizona is and

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Speaker 1: a football team and their identity and their ethos, what

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Speaker 1: The Niners shoved it down their throat. Arizona, the Packers

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Speaker 1: And listen, they do a good job. They did a

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Speaker 1: this game with no DeVante, no defensive coordinator, like at

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Speaker 1: touchdown plus underdog. That's an impressive win. Now, Like I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Like I will always say there's three of them, Brady, Rogers,

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Speaker 1: just it's perfection at quarterback. It really is. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: Uh one of my social media is to night, someone

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Speaker 1: throwing perfection. And when you give him two running backs,

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Speaker 1: and right now they are legitimately good, but this weekend,

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Speaker 1: DAC anytime that you have an injury and then you

426
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Speaker 1: get a bye week and you're still injured after that

427
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Speaker 1: bye week, especially when they say after the injury, oh,

428
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Speaker 1: it's not that big of a deal, don't worry about it,

429
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: and then the bye week and you're limited in practice,

430
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: Like that's a concern for me, it really. I see.

431
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: I saw with Trey Lance last week he got injured

432
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the bye week is

433
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Speaker 1: like everything's gonna be fine, and then he couldn't practice

434
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Speaker 1: a week. You're like, that's something to keep an eye on.

435
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: And let's face it, the Cowboys are gonna go as far.

436
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: That's played like a top five quarterback in the NFL

437
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Speaker 1: this year, So if he's gonna be healthy, they have

438
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Speaker 1: a chance to win the NFC. I don't think that's

439
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: that crazy. The Bucks, them, the Rams, the Cardinals, like

440
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: there's a short list of team the Packers, in this mix,

441
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: they are one of them. It can't be denied. The

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00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: division is irrelevant. They're gonna win that division probably by

443
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Speaker 1: the middle of Nova. But in terms of they're chasing

444
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: to beat the top teams to try to get the

445
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: top seat and going on the road Sunday Night football

446
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, which is a frisky team. Like, you can't

447
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Speaker 1: deny that Minnesota's offense is really good. I've been historically

448
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of a Cousin's hater. I've come around. He's a

449
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: solid player there off I mean, Jefferson's a star, feelings

450
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: a stud. They're running games really good. I can't wait

451
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: to watch this game. And if Dallas goes in there

452
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Speaker 1: and wins this game, like I think we need to

453
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Speaker 1: really start talking about them. Is competing to be the

454
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Speaker 1: number one overall seat, and I don't think it's outrageous,

455
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Speaker 1: especially when you factor in the games they get to

456
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Speaker 1: play in their division, which are easy to use, so

457
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: they get way more easy like even Tampa this weekend, Tampa,

458
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Speaker 1: who is favored on the road against the Saints. The

459
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Speaker 1: Saints are still way better than anything the NFC East

460
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Speaker 1: has to roll out. Look at the Packers, the Bears, Lions,

461
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: and we'll see this Minnesota team which is probably friskier

462
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: than uh, you know, than did anything Dallas has to

463
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Speaker 1: mess with. So Dallas just gets an easy six games

464
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: of the year. If you can win some of these

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Speaker 1: out of divisional games, especially inside the conference, I think

466
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Speaker 1: they have a legitimate chance to be the number one seed,

467
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: which is insanity. Who would have ever said that? And listen,

468
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Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of about Mike McCarthy. Still

469
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: not totally clear what he does right. Doesn't call the offense. Obviously,

470
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Speaker 1: it's not a great time management. Guy knows nothing about defense,

471
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Speaker 1: as we saw last year. But I can't dispute it.

472
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: Like he's the head coach and their team's good. But

473
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Speaker 1: if Doc is anywhere close to you know this this

474
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Speaker 1: game Cowboys man, keep an eye out. Pat's Belichick hates

475
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Speaker 1: the Jets like I. I've tried to throw pettiness away

476
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Speaker 1: from my life. I remember Coward Um wrote in his

477
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: first book, Shameless Plug. I think it's called like you

478
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: heard me, that holding a grudge is like chain smoking hate.

479
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest lines I've ever heard. And listen,

480
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: I could hold a grudge, have Vandetta's be petty with

481
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Speaker 1: the best of them. I've really tried to shake that

482
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: in my life because I'm someone that could bottle up

483
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: anger and then all of a sudden, I'll just be

484
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: like doing something and I'll be thinking about him, Like,

485
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: why am I bringing these negative thoughts in my head?

486
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Who gives a shit about this guy that slided me

487
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: seven years ago? My life's good, I have no complaints.

488
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: Why am I worried about that? Some people thrive on that.

489
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: I have found that I don't operate well when I'm angry.

490
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: You know, focused is different than angry. Some people operate

491
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: well angry. I've known some. I'm sure anyone listening some

492
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: of you operate well angry, operating trying to like destroy

493
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: whoever you think kind of scrooge you that that's not

494
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: the best way I found that I operate. Belichick thrives

495
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Speaker 1: on that he hates the Jets, despises the Jets, and

496
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: he tries to just piss on their grave every time

497
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: he plays him. And he just did it last week.

498
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: He was throwing up way late. He is just he

499
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Speaker 1: has embarrassed Zack Wilson this year, and he's embarrassed franchise,

500
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think as long as he's the head

501
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: coach of New England Patriots, he will stop doing that.

502
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: He also did that last year against the Chargers. If

503
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: you remember, that was the game. I forget the final score.

504
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: It was like three year It was an absolute bludgeoning

505
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: and it kind of ended Anthony Lynn like it was

506
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Speaker 1: like okay, Anthony Lynn and and the Pats were not

507
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: good right Offensively, cam Newton was a disaster. They were

508
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: missing all the guys on defense. They were just they

509
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: were a very very average at best, seven and nineteen. Also, ironically,

510
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers somehow finished seven and nine, even though the

511
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Speaker 1: way we talked about the Charges last year, we we

512
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Speaker 1: acted as what they won like three or four games,

513
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: but they actually won seven. This is a sweet test,

514
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, the Pats. It's hard to say they got

515
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: their mojo back because again the Jets stink, but they

516
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: did just get a big win. They've been playing pretty

517
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: well now for a while. I think they've actually played

518
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Speaker 1: pretty well this season. Even in some of their losses,

519
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: right against Dallas against Tampa. Uh, they're just not as good.

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Speaker 1: And I think a huge reason for that is Macinton.

521
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: So when they need some big spots when they need

522
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Speaker 1: to get a first down like they did against UH

523
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: against Dallas and overtime on third and five, Mac overthrows

524
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: it or him and his wide receiver on the same page. Like,

525
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: that's just not happening with Tom. So it's subtle, subtle, uh,

526
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, things that are causing the paths to be

527
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: three and four instead of you know, five and two.

528
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Speaker 1: But that's the reality of starting a rookie quarterback going

529
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Speaker 1: on the road against the Chargers, which I think on

530
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: paper are one of the better teams in the NFL. UH.

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Speaker 1: They have easily one of the better young players in

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Speaker 1: the league in Herbert, Like, there's a big test. He's

533
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: got to play this guy before he got to see

534
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Speaker 1: what it's like to get your ass kicked by Belichick.

535
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Can't he bounce back? And listen? Brandon Staley is a

536
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Speaker 1: guy that everyone kind of annointed as this great young coach.

537
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: He has all these great sound bites that resonate with

538
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: the media and get retweeted and listen. I think he's

539
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: an impressive guy. I do. I'm not some I'm not

540
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: trying to hate on him, but he clearly is loved

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Speaker 1: by the media. And when you're loved by the media,

542
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: they they're quick to annoyint yet even though the moment

543
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: you suck, they'll beat you down very asked. But this

544
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: is a big test for him. You know, his team

545
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: is better than New England. I would say dramatically, if

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Speaker 1: you gave Belichick the the Chargers and you gave Brandon

547
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Staley the Patriots, this would be like a seven point

548
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: line this You would expect the Chargers to destroy the Pats.

549
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: But I don't think we do. I'm not saying I

550
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: would bet on the Patriots Patriots in this spot, but

551
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: I could see this game being a little closer than,

552
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: uh than it looks like on paper. Uh. Now, the

553
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: trump card kind of always is anytime you have a

554
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, he is liable to have a bad game

555
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: at any moment. It's human nature. You know, Peyton Manning

556
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: had him uh Mahomes. I guess I was gonna say,

557
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: like Mahomes and Brady, but those guys didn't even start

558
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: as rookies. But the point is, like anytime you have

559
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, but definitely a rookie quarterback, it can

560
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: get ugly. Now, maybe not Zack Wilson ugly, but you're

561
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: liable to have a game where you throw a couple

562
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Speaker 1: of picks uh in a big spot, in a tight game.

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00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean it happened to mac Jones against the cowpol

564
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: ways when when Dick's when he threw that pick six.

565
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: But this is this is an excellent game on paper.

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Speaker 1: I wrote down just some guys, some young quarterbacks, and

567
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier in the week. Hey listen,

568
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a sucker for a stronger arm, and that doesn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, guarantee you to be a great player just

570
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: because you have a big arm. But for the most part,

571
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Speaker 1: like when you look at all the top young players,

572
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: they all have good arms, right, Herbert, Alan, Mahomes, even

573
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: Lamar above average arm. I wouldn't say Lamar has a hose,

574
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: but it's definitely he has a powerful, powerful arm. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, you think about the older quarterback's Brady big arm,

576
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Speaker 1: Roger's big arm. Uh, you know, Roethlisberger, who's a Hall

577
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: of Fame player forever, had a big time arm. I

578
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: leaned that way, and I think when you see a

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Speaker 1: lot of the younger players that are kind of in

580
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: question around the league, that they have questionable arms, and

581
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: this week some of them are going into some spots

582
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Speaker 1: that if I was their general manager, if I was

583
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: in the scouting department, if I was owner, like this

584
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: is kind of I wouldn't say put up or shut

585
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: up time. But this is a big evaluation because a

586
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Speaker 1: guy like Jalen Hurts, who I think is playing himself

587
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: out of the starting job in Philly. The trade Flacco

588
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: this week to the Jets, which why didn't you do

589
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: that in the off season, Gardner? Minshew is just gonna

590
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: gain some momentum. People are gonna start saying, well, why

591
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: don't they just play Minshew? Hell, I would start him

592
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Speaker 1: this week, but clearly they named Jalen the starter. They

593
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: were just gonna give him some time. If you go

594
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Speaker 1: to Detroit and you lose to the Lions. Hell, even

595
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Speaker 1: if you win and you don't play well against the Lions,

596
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Speaker 1: what's if I'm Howie and I'm Sirianni, I think it's time.

597
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I think Jalen has a lot on the line this week.

598
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Speaker 1: For just as fast as he became the starter, Let's

599
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: face it, somewhat out of nowhere last year, not out

600
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Speaker 1: of nowhere in the sense that wentz deserved to get benched.

601
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Speaker 1: But I don't think when when he was drafted in

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Speaker 1: the second round anyone thought Jalen Hurts was gonna be

603
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Speaker 1: a starter, right, and then by the end of the

604
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: year he started five games and then obviously once you

605
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: trade Wentz, it was clear he was gonna be the guy.

606
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: But he was gonna be the guy. You didn't have

607
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollar contract. He wasn't drafted the top ten.

608
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: You know, he was the starting quarterback. But I would

609
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: say he was on shaky ground. He had to prove himself,

610
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: and it's gotten really shaky. He has not played well.

611
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: He just can't make basic throws. He's looked pretty terrible.

612
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: And I think any Eagles fan or anyone that's Washington play.

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00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: If you're a Raider fan, you go, God, he's not

614
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Speaker 1: very good. And that can happen. Young quarterbacks can go

615
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: through tough stretches. But when you play the Lions like

616
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Speaker 1: you better play well because if you don't, there is

617
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: no point in starting him anymore. And I think on

618
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: the flip side, they're stuck financially with Jared Goff for

619
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Speaker 1: two years. But are you just gonna go? Is Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell an old school, hardass, tough guy, just gonna go

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Speaker 1: game in, game out for thirty I guess thirty four

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Speaker 1: games now because the extra game with Jared Goff. I

623
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Speaker 1: kinda find that hard to believe, because Dan Campbell a

624
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Speaker 1: tough guy, uh, an overachiever. I have a hard time

625
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: thinking that he's just They're gonna lose a bunch of

626
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: games no matter what. But just keep Jared Goff in

627
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: the game. Now. Maybe it's as simple as ownership. They're

628
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: paying them all that money. Let him just direct the

629
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: ship down to the bottom of the ocean. But I

630
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I could see Dan Campbell snapping. I mean he basically

631
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: did a couple of weeks ago. Uh. They pulled out

632
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: all the stops last week with a fake punt with

633
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: a with an on site kick, which was well executed.

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00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I love a good on site kick execution when no

635
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: one sees it coming, you know, when you when you're

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Speaker 1: trying to do the onsite kick, you know kind of

637
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Speaker 1: I guess it would be horizontally like at the at

638
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Speaker 1: the sideline. What what would you say? The percentage is

639
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Speaker 1: that it's even close five percent of the time, it's

640
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Speaker 1: even a chance for the U for your team to

641
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Speaker 1: you know, recover it. But when you do the one

642
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: where you run and everyone's in their normal positions but

643
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: you barely tap it and everyone's going back and then

644
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: you're able to fall on it, that's one of the

645
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: cooler plays in sports. It really, it's the best special

646
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: teams fake. Like the fake punt is awesome, but it's

647
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: pretty easy to execute if no one's covering the guy

648
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: the fake on or not the fake, but the onside

649
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: kick when no one expects it and it's just a

650
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: straightaway a little dribbler is an incredible play to watch

651
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: and it is really really impressive to execute. And from

652
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: a coaching staff standpoint, it takes balls. Takes some Coona's

653
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: Sam Donald to put up a big stat line last

654
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: week against the Falcons, because, let's face it, everyone does.

655
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: The Falcons defense hasn't been good since like the dirty Birds. Uh,

656
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: they're just a terrible defense. You can throw on them.

657
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: You should be able to throw it for three and

658
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: fifty yards. I don't care that Christian McCaffrey has a

659
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: bad hamstring. If your career as a top five quarterback,

660
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: like if you're drafting the top five, and the only

661
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: time that you can be an above average player is

662
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: when you have Christian McCaffrey, it's kind of an indictment

663
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Speaker 1: on you. And and listen, I thought Christian McCaffrey is

664
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Speaker 1: one of my greatest whiffs as a talking head. I

665
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be like Julie and Edelman. I'm like,

666
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think he'll end up playing slot receiver

667
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and just be Really, he's a star. He is uh,

668
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: he's an elite player, win healthy. He gets banged up,

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Speaker 1: but when he's healthy, he's an e He would help

670
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Speaker 1: anyone out. You gave him a Brady, you gave him

671
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: to Rodgers, like he's a big time weapon. But like

672
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: I can take a weapon away from Rogers, I can

673
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: take a weapon away from Brady. I can take a

674
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: weapon away from Homes and they can still make plays

675
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: even if they lose a game. Sam Donald can't even

676
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: make plays anymore. So you're playing the Falcons whose secondary

677
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: and just defense. It's just not good. So if you

678
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: can't one, you gotta win this game. If you're Carolina

679
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: and too, you're you're in bed with Sam Donald because

680
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: you picked up his fifth year option. He's not going anywhere.

681
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: But you have a disaster on your hands. If you

682
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 1: have a game where he just throws for two yards

683
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: a couple of picks against this team and the Falcons

684
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Speaker 1: beat you. If you're not better than the Falcons. Like,

685
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: let's face it, the Falcons are not one in six

686
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: at the three and three. They're actually better than even

687
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: I think most people realize. But Sam Donald kind of

688
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: has a lot on the line to kind of proven

689
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: his career, and it's got off to a fast start.

690
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's tumbling downhill right now, it is. And

691
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm someone who defended him. I'm someone who said, I

692
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: don't understand why more front offices aren't interested in them.

693
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why you know they work in the NFL

694
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: still and I you know, talk about football on a

695
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: podcast because I would have been all over Sam Donald

696
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: and currently he's a disaster. And then to Ah goes

697
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. I haven't checked the weather report and Buffalo,

698
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: but you know, come late October, it's not gonna be

699
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, sunny and warm. What are they doing, like,

700
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: are they just Monday or Tuesday gonna trade for Deshaun Watson.

701
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: I know too. I had some comments this week that

702
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel uncomfortable, that he's cool with everything that's

703
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: going on. I don't know how you could be like,

704
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that these are not made up stories.

705
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: People are saying this because it's real, from the owner,

706
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: from the general manager, and how could you blame him?

707
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: Of course you'd want Deshaun Watson over to uh. But

708
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for a while now. They invested

709
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick. The amount of capital that equals

710
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: for an NFL team is is very very high, very

711
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: very high. They would do anything. Let me repeat, they

712
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: would do anything for two of to just be good.

713
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: Not great, not Herbert, not Lamar, not Alan, just good.

714
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Just be like, you know, you got a good quarterback,

715
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Speaker 1: because I think most people do not feel that way,

716
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: myself included. So you go to Buffalo, a divisional arrival,

717
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: you have nothing to play for. Your season is basically over.

718
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 1: The Eagles have their pick. I mean that pick gets

719
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: better and better by the week. If I'm Jeffrey Lourie

720
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: and Howie, I'm licking my lips. Right they're going to Buffalo.

721
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: That's another another all for them. Are they just gonna

722
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Speaker 1: get blown out? Is he just gonna look terrible because

723
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: I throw a bad pick? Against the Falcons. He gonna

724
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: throw a couple of bad picks against these guys. Are

725
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Is gonna kick the ship out of him,

726
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: which I think we all kind of expect because that's

727
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: what it would look like on paper. But it is

728
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: this guy ever just gonna be like no more, go

729
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: out and just have a big game, throw for three

730
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: or four touchdowns and get a big upset and like,

731
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: oh okay, everyone, just take a deep breath. Maybe he's

732
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: not as terrible as we all think, because again it's

733
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: all relative. He's clearly like an NFL player, But when

734
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: you're drafted really high, that that pick brings a value

735
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: on you as a player, Like you can be an average,

736
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Speaker 1: solid starter if you're a fourth round pick. Right. The

737
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: reason Dac was such an incredible story in Russell Wilson

738
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: because they were third and fourth round picks. But when

739
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: you're Joe Burrow, anything less than being a star is

740
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: a letdown. It's why we're so hard on Baker Mayfield.

741
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Speaker 1: You're the number one overall pick in the draft, lamar

742
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the story he was the thirty second pick. Josh Rosen.

743
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: The reason he's such a polarizing talked about is one

744
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: of the biggest bus He was the tenth overall pick,

745
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: this guy was the fifth pick, and then you throw

746
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: on top of that, Herbert was the next guy taking

747
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: off the board. So I I'm just fascinated to see

748
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: how this looks. Does he have one of those games

749
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, hey, hey guys, I can play

750
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: watch this. I'm gonna go beat Buffalo. I don't think

751
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: he does, but he bad or else. By the time

752
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: we wake up Monday morning, Deshaun Watson might be traded

753
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: to the to the Miami Dolphins. And then my favorite

754
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: game of the week, uh, Mike Tomlin gave it just

755
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: an incredible rant. I love and talking earlier about the

756
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: NFL being a reality show, one thing that the sports

757
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: have always had are just great rants from coaches. We

758
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: got that when I was a kid. We got that

759
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: Baseball all the time, Tommy Lasorda, how McCrae. We just

760
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: had great outbursts. Now, these managers would never think of

761
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: doing that. One They don't make any money to They're

762
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: terrified of their GM getting rid of them, so they

763
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: just keep quiet there like a middle management. There's like,

764
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: whatever you want me to do. But when I was

765
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: a kid. Some of the best rants where guys flipping

766
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: over tables and throwing ship. I remember did go with

767
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: the Saints, gave a pretty good one and a game

768
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: great ones with the Bears. Still happens every once in

769
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: a while in football. Uh though, Like I know, Tomlin

770
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: was piste off that they asked him and they didn't

771
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: ask Andy Reid and Sean Payton. My one pushback would be, well,

772
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer said your name Mike to Dan Patrick. If

773
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer had said Sean Payton, Sean Payton would have

774
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: been asked about it. He would have Hardball. John Hardball

775
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: was brought up for the USC job. I think six

776
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: years ago he was asked about it, So it's I

777
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: would get being really mad if they're like, hey, Mike,

778
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: are you interested in the Texas Tech job? Is the

779
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: USC job? Though I agree with him, the Pittsburgh Steelers

780
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: job is in a completely different world than USC. But

781
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is the ultimate rally the troops guy. Mike

782
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Tomlin is the ultimate when he talks him like, goddamn,

783
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: this guy is a badass. How many people? If you're

784
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: listening to this, you're probably a big football fan. Text

785
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: you that rant and went like Tomlin badass. I know

786
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: I sent that to like three people. That was my

787
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: I would forward the tweet and I would just say

788
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: Tomlin badass. This guy is a badass. That's what we

789
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: all think because that's kind of been his m O

790
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: as a coach. Tough guy, great speeches, rally the troops

791
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: and get people ready to go into battle. Well, the

792
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: Browns are somewhat limpid. They got a lot of injuries.

793
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: They have some issues. Now as of recording this, the

794
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: last I saw. Baker Mayfield has been practicing this week.

795
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: He practiced on Wednesday, but clearly the labor he's got issues,

796
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: and you could argue what he's even the difference between

797
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: him and case Keenum. If if he's healthy, Baker Mayfields

798
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: a better player than case Keenum, but relative to their scheme,

799
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes that big a difference.

800
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: Ken Baker Mayfield, even injured out play, an old has

801
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: been and that's kind of what Ben is. An old

802
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: has been And I'm not saying that to kind of

803
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: be a dick, he just is. He's an all time

804
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: great player, one of my favorite players ever to watch.

805
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: He's nowhere near that he's thirty nine years old with

806
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries. It's he can't really move anymore.

807
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: It's understandable, right, and it happened to Joe DiMaggio was

808
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: once it has been right, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Michael

809
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: Jordan's like, I mean, it's it's it's the nature of

810
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: playing professional athletics. Your body ages and you can't do

811
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Speaker 1: what you used to be able to do. Ken Baker

812
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: Mayfield and the Browns play these guys. I love him

813
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: from a gambling standpoint, but this is a pretty big

814
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: game for the Brows, right. They are not just some

815
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: shoeing to make the playoffs. I looked at their last one, two, three,

816
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: their last six games of the season are very very difficult.

817
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Let me read this off to you. At the Ravens.

818
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Then they get a buy so they have a late by.

819
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: Then they get the Ravens again. They play the Ravens

820
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: two times in three weeks. Then they finished with this.

821
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Speaker 1: Raiders at Packers at Steelers Bengals, Ravens Ravens Raiders, Packers, Steelers, Bengals,

822
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Like they better take advantage, Like this is a game,

823
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: even that it's a home game, so even if you

824
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: split with the Steelers, you should win your home game.

825
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: I think I like the Steelers to go win and

826
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Speaker 1: win this game. And I'm someone who thinks Ben's close

827
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: to Wash than he is still solid, But I just

828
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: think this is an all time Tomlin throw the kitchen

829
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: sink rally. The boys play some defense. You're not just

830
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna run it down our throat with some guy that

831
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Speaker 1: was in the a F a couple of years ago.

832
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I saw after the Thursday night game last week, de

833
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: Ernest Johnson, I think his name was. I even forget

834
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people on like Friday, we're coming out

835
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: with screenshots. He was d m ng people in the

836
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Speaker 1: A A F just to get a tryout a couple

837
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: of years ago. So I love. I have nothing but

838
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: admiration for people with the mindset of being relentless to

839
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: get an opportunity. Guys solid player and running back is

840
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: the one position where obviously Nick Chubb is better than

841
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: this guy, but you could find some random player and

842
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: he can run for a hundred yards. It's it's a

843
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: tried and true formula. It happens every single year. It

844
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: has happened basically my entire adult life. Random players come

845
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and play, but it's gonna be a

846
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: little harder. VERSU the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Denver Broncos defense

847
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: was in shambles, and it isn't chambles, then the Broncos

848
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: are in shambles. I just think the Pittsburgh Steelers, man,

849
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: and you win this game. I think we have to

850
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: start saying, are the Browns gonna miss the playoffs? Like?

851
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Are the Browns and the Bengals gonna flip flop? And honestly,

852
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: moving forward, are we sure that the Bengals aren't just

853
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna be better than the Browns for the next several years? Now,

854
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: Zach is having his first success as a head coach,

855
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: so it's hard for me just to be like, definitively,

856
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: I would take Stefanski over Zach Taylor, but I have

857
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: a longer resume Stefanski as an offensive coordinator taking over

858
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: the Browns, I would just take Stefanski. I might be

859
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: wrong on that, but the Browns and the better head coach.

860
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: But from a quarterback standpoint, we'd all agree it's not

861
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: even close. So they have the better quarterback and they

862
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: have you know, offensively, it's probably not that much different.

863
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: They got Jamaar Chase, You got Jarvis Landry. Obviously Jamar

864
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: Chase should be way better than Jarvis Landry. Uh, you

865
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: got jobb and Hunt who are both banged up. They

866
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: got mixed and p Ryan who's basically Lincoln Riley and

867
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: Bob Stuten backfield, So it's not even that crazy. And

868
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: if defensively their records just already better. They're already five

869
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: and two. Then this week they played the Jets. All

870
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're six and two. All of a sudden,

871
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: you look at the Bengals, they can get to ten

872
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: or eleven wins. Like I said, the finish for the

873
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Browns just gets very, very difficult. And then the Steelers,

874
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: you win this game, you're four and three. They went

875
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: from dead to all of a sudden, like could the

876
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: Steelers make the playoffs? And Mike Tomlin then you won't

877
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: be coaching at USC Because I think it's pretty clear

878
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: video they went viral yesterday. It sure feels like James

879
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Franklin is gonna go to USC. Which I someone tweeted

880
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: at me the other day that he thought they Penn

881
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: State plays Ohio State this week because they just lost

882
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: that fifty overtime game to Illinois, which is very weird

883
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: to see an eight overtime game and the score be

884
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: eighteen to eight team because the new rules. A lot

885
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: of people didn't know the new rules, Like you start

886
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: going for two point conversions in the third overtime, well,

887
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: even if you score, you don't get six points. They

888
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: only give you two. And then they missed a bunch

889
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: of two point conversions, so there wasn't much scoring. Everyone's like,

890
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 1: this is the longest game ever. The game actually wasn't

891
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: that long because usually in college football overtime, if there

892
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: are four or five overtimes, well, if you guys are

893
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: both scoring, you start at so you can get multiple

894
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: first downs. The game can last a little longer. When

895
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: you just run each run one play, it's pretty rapid fire,

896
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: you know. So it's it got a little overblown how

897
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: long the game took. There were just were a lot

898
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: of two point conversion opportunities. I have a hard time,

899
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, James Franklin just lost to Illinois. To Illinois,

900
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: I I think, like I'm not saying he's a bad coach,

901
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, Penn State, He's a solid coach. He's done

902
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: a good job there, He's won eleven games, I think

903
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: three different times, but I would not put him in

904
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: the upper echelonic coaches. I have a hard time of

905
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: ever seeing him having like a Dabbo type run doing

906
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: what they're doing at Ohio State. You could put him anywhere.

907
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: I I just don't see that. I think he's a

908
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: really solid coach, and he can overachieve at Vanderbilt. Get

909
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: them to nine wins, that's impressive. He can go to

910
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: Penn State get them to eleven wins, that's impressive. But

911
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I would just be careful about USC hiring him. I really,

912
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: can you recruit, Yes, he can recruit, But name me

913
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: a good coach that can't recruit, like means you can recruit.

914
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 1: This isn't like yeah, every so can Saban, So can Dabbo,

915
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: So can Ryan Day, so can Mario Chris the Ball,

916
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: so can Lincoln Riley, Soaken Kirby Smart. You know, it's like, yeah,

917
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: recruiting is part of college football. It's part of the business.

918
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: It's like telling me a defensive coordinator in the pros

919
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: can't scheme. Well, It's like, well, then fire him. You know,

920
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's part of the job. It's part of

921
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, part of the reason you get paid seven

922
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. But it sure feels like it wouldn't

923
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: even be uh. I think it's a possibility that this

924
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: game against Ohio State is James Franklin's last game that

925
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's if he just quits or resigns,

926
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: and then he just becomes the USC coach after they

927
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: lose by like fifty points, because I don't know if

928
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: you've noticed anyone that's Ohio State fan has they look

929
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: awesome right now. C J. Stroud has been fantastic. Their

930
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: wide receivers are elite, I mean elite. It wouldn't shock

931
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: me if you look up Penn State's offense. Isn't that

932
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: great all of a sudden, you know, at halftime it's

933
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: thirty five to seven or something. In the final score

934
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: is fifty five to ten, and then maybe he I

935
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: don't know how it would work out. Don't even know

936
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: why USC would be so like so dead set on

937
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: getting him after he lost Illinois then blown out by

938
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: hos Pate. But it sure does feel like it's trading

939
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, middlecoff mail back, that's what time it is,

940
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: so let's do it. Hey, John, thanks for keeping it real.

941
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: How many receivers in the league are actually better than

942
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup? And who are they too? If you had

943
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: to form a team of twenty two identical human beings

944
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: to play football against a regular NFL team, who would

945
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: you clone? Best chance at victory? Second one? That's pretty

946
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: hard because I don't. You couldn't pick a How would

947
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: you pick an offensive lineman they couldn't cover right? And

948
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't. You couldn't pick a defensive end you I

949
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: don't maybe pick a linebacker, like a two or forty

950
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: pound linebacker. That that's an impossible No matter who you pick,

951
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: you're getting destroyed, destroyed, uh I US. I would probably

952
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: go with like, I don't even know, there's no right answer.

953
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: If I said, like ro Kuwan Smith, like, well, how's

954
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: ro Kuan Smith gonna block a defensive tackle? He's not.

955
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: How's ro Kuan Smith gonna, you know, cover a wide receiver?

956
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: He's not. How's Roquan Smith gonna throw? I would be

957
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: like Trent Williams, Well, how's Trent Williams gonna play safety?

958
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: If I say Davante Adams, You're like, well, how's Davantae

959
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: Adams gonna rush the passer. So it's maybe I just

960
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: go Justin Tucker, go Jesson Tucker. Uh, Cooper Cup. I'd

961
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: say Davante Adams is better. I would say, uh, Justin

962
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: Jefferson is better. I would say, you know, I I

963
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: would take Keenan Allen over. Yeah, I mean he's really good.

964
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: It's a shortlist of guys, right, Jamar Chase is coming,

965
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean he's he's an elite player. He's

966
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: really good, and honestly, maybe I'm just outing him. Fellow

967
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: West Coast native, I followed Pack twelve fairly closely. I'm

968
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: an organ State a hum go Beeves. I'm going to

969
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: the game Saturday, Oregon State cal It's not exactly you know, Alabama, Georgia,

970
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: but Oregon States five and two. My buddy Derek Ray,

971
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: he's basically the GM for Oregon State. Jonathan Smith, big

972
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: time up and coming coach. They might be six and

973
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: two if they win. There, one of the better programs

974
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: out here looking forward. Uh. He left me a couple

975
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: of tickets. I said, I denied him a couple of

976
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: years ago because they weren't very good. I'm like, you know,

977
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give up. My college football Saturday to

978
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: drive to Berkeley and watch two crappy teams. But you

979
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: guys are good this year. I enjoy watching them play.

980
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: I follow him really closely. I'm like, I'm in, you

981
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: better kick their ass. So I'm excited for the game.

982
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: Probably my first sporting event in a while. I don't

983
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: think i've been to one in a couple of years.

984
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: Not that I wouldn't go, I just I just haven't been.

985
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting the Pact twelve to ever rival the SEC,

986
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: but what steps could the school's conference take to be

987
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: more competitive nationwide? I think it's pretty simple. You got

988
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: to buy good coaches, like it's it's not. People gave

989
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: Larry Scott a lot of ship, and deservingly so. Larry

990
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: Scott was a former Tennis IVY legal elitist. When when

991
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: it comes to Power five schools, if you are not

992
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: a football centric person, get the funk out of here.

993
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: That pays all the bills. You know, It's like that,

994
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: that is that's the business football. It's like running Wells

995
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: Fargo and not being into banking. It's like, this is

996
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: what we're doing here. Larry, stop worrying about women's soccer.

997
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: Men's baseball. Football is the most important thing. But Larry

998
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: did not hire the coaches. And there were a ton

999
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: of coaches in the Pact twelve who weren't very good.

1000
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: And hell, I don't think they're coaching is that great?

1001
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: Right now? He can't recruit for USC, He can't recruit

1002
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: for Chip Kelly. They need to hire better coaches, right

1003
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: they need more Chris Peterson's and Pete Carroll's and what

1004
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: Chip was it? Or like chips gonna get fired? So

1005
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: U c L a USC are gonna have openings. Arizona

1006
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: is O and twelve? Is Jet Fish any good? I

1007
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Carl Durrell he sucks? Uh whitting Ham legit?

1008
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: So they got Whittingham. He's really good. David Shaw. I

1009
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: like David a lot. But Stanford is not what it was.

1010
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: And let's face it, they were never gonna be able

1011
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: to sustain it for a decade. Right, it's there, it's

1012
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: probably over, and Stanford is never you know, the PAC

1013
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: twelve is never gonna rely on Stanford. They need Oregon

1014
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: to be good and they are so props to Mario.

1015
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: They need Washington and Washington State to be good. They

1016
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: need USC and U c l A to be good.

1017
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: They need one of the Arizona schools to be good.

1018
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: And that's just I mean, Herm's okay, but Herm Edwards

1019
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: is one of your better coaches, Herm Edwards. I think

1020
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: it comes down to hiring the right coaches, and that

1021
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: would hire the right coaches costs a lot of money.

1022
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: You know, a running back coach in the SEC makes

1023
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: like five thousand dollars. You know what offensive coordinator in

1024
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: the SEC can make over a million dollars. You guys, start,

1025
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: the SEC treats and the Big Ten treats football like

1026
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. How much does it cost to get an

1027
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: assistant recruiting coordinator a hunder Grant? Okay, here's the money.

1028
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: Same with Oklahoma in Texas is why they're going to

1029
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: the SEC. Money talk ship walks. The Pack twelve is

1030
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: too consumed, and listen, I got no problem being consumed

1031
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: with academics. I'm not an academic guy, even though we

1032
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: had a couple of degrees. I'm a football guy. And

1033
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: I just think football is not as big of a

1034
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: priority on the West coast. I mean, it is an Oregon. Uh.

1035
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: It used to be at USC. It's not at U

1036
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: c l A never has been. Not a cow, never

1037
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: has been. It's just not you know, I think Washington

1038
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: they kind of butt heads. They're trying to make it

1039
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: is at Utah because of Kyle. You are what your

1040
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: priorities are. Right. If you want to be a good boyfriend,

1041
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: you'll be a good boyfriend. You'll think about her, You'll

1042
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: get a flowers, you'll do ship for, you'll take her

1043
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: on dates. You she'll feel want it. Right. If you

1044
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: don't want to be a good boyfriend, you want to

1045
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: be a good boyfriend. If you want to be a

1046
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: good sales guy, you'll be a good sales guy. You'll

1047
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: be relentless in your sales right, You'll never stop, you'll net,

1048
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: you'll wear everyone out for business. If you want to

1049
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: be a half sales guy, will be a half sales guy.

1050
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: You know what the SEC wants. They want to kick

1051
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: the ship out of every conference in football, and they

1052
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: put their money where their mouth. This same with the

1053
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: Big Ten and that's why both of them dominated football.

1054
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: The pactroll doesn't care and under Larry Scott's leadership, they

1055
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: valued other sports. They were into you know, just having

1056
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: every sport being equal. They ain't equal champ football pays

1057
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: for everything. The football coach at the school literally pays

1058
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: for the entire athletic department, besides like five schools where

1059
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: basketball chips in. I even heard John Calipari. I remember

1060
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It was after a big

1061
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: Kentucky football win, and I think John Calipari was doing

1062
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: an interview later the next week and he said, listen,

1063
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: I want Kentucky football to be the best possible football program,

1064
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: because the better they are, the better it is for us.

1065
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: He understood it, like football has to be king and

1066
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: it's just not anymore. It makes me sad. It's honestly

1067
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: why I gravitate towards the SEC. I mean it's that

1068
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: it's like because they care about football like we care

1069
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: about football. I wish the Pac twelve did. They did

1070
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: once upon a time when I was a kid. USC

1071
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: did with Pete Carroll, Oregon Oregan does. But I just

1072
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: questioned some of the other school's true true care. They

1073
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: they are obsessed with academics, and that's their prerogative. That's fine.

1074
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: Like they're just not like Ohio State football that comes first.

1075
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: It just does and it always will. So that's a

1076
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: long winded way of saying, I think we're in trouble.

1077
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: My question is getting big fan of the pot. My

1078
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: question involves getting into football as a profession. I'm a

1079
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: recent college grad working a nine to five, but my

1080
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: real passion has always been the game. Seems like a

1081
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: pipe dream at this point due to lack of experience.

1082
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: But what would you recommend at someone like me who

1083
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: desperately wants to make a game of profession, more so

1084
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: on the coaching player development side than media willing to

1085
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: work for free. I would say, do not have the

1086
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: mindset it's a pipe dream. Uh. And I'm not Tony

1087
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: Robbins here, but I've heard enough of this, you know,

1088
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: speeches from guys like that. The moment you start conditioning

1089
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: your mindset of this is unattainable, this is unattainable, you

1090
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: won't attain it. I mean ship, when I left cal Poly,

1091
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: i'd never been to an NFL game, let alone know

1092
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: someone in the NFL. Uh. And then you know two

1093
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: years later I worked in the NFL. Today I was

1094
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: texting a couple of g ms in the NFL some questions.

1095
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: So I don't think you can think like that. And uh,

1096
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: I think the key is if you want to coach,

1097
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: go to high school or go to a local college

1098
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: and see if you can help out, See if you

1099
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: can volunteer, see if you can do something. It's possible

1100
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: if you're willing to work for free at the beginning, uh,

1101
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: you might be able to get a foot in the door.

1102
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: You know. It's just you gotta be just relentless and

1103
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: bug the ship out of someone. Like you're a sales guy.

1104
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: You gotta be a sales guy and you're selling yourself

1105
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: and do whatever it takes to sell that guy. So,

1106
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: whether it's the high school, is a pretty easy thing

1107
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: to get involved with a program. But if you if

1108
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: by a college and want to help in recruiting, you

1109
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: just want to help somehow, you know, any any any

1110
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Division one, double a Division two,

1111
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: just to get your foot in the door. It's possible.

1112
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: It is so just that that's always my recommendation. And

1113
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: but in fairness, that's how I did it. I went

1114
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: to college, then to the NFL. Now, maybe you don't

1115
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: end up going to the NFL or want to go

1116
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Maybe college is cool. So I mean

1117
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: you're just going right to college. It would have been

1118
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: fine like if I could have stayed in college, I

1119
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: just aspired to get to the NFL. Not because looking back,

1120
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: it was more because I like business. I like money,

1121
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: and I love the money involved in football. I know

1122
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money involved in uh in college sports,

1123
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: but you also like the athletic department have to pretend

1124
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: women's soccer and and men's soccer, and it's just like,

1125
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just football, the money, the margins, the

1126
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: revenue that's paying. Yeah, I want to pay a hundred

1127
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: million dollars to get a quarterback. Okay, I want Davante

1128
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: Adams give him eighty million dollars. I love that. Know,

1129
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: I like buying things, and I like, you know, controlling things.

1130
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, in college football it's just I

1131
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: just not that it was dirty because I love college football,

1132
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: but there was just a pure business aspect to the

1133
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: NFL that college just doesn't have. Maybe it's a little

1134
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: like that now with the n i L. But when

1135
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: I was there, it just felt like the women's softball

1136
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: coach was always complaining that we got iPads, and she did.

1137
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, now they don't have

1138
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: to deal with that at L s U or Ohio State,

1139
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: but a Fresnel. It was like, this is ridiculous. I

1140
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: felt awful for Coach Hill because it was I mean

1141
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: it was. It was embarrassing. I'm a Bears fan who

1142
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: has always been a Naggy supporter and believer in his

1143
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: time here with the Bears. I know Pace has failed

1144
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: to build a line for four to five years, and now, ironically,

1145
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: the one year we graded well on the offensive line,

1146
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: Naggie had success in two thousand eighteen. Lately, everything seems

1147
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: hopeless for a franchise as we historically bat on offense,

1148
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: and we have no first round pick in next year's draft.

1149
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: If we lose to your Niners this week, do you

1150
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: think we start trading away guys for picks of the deadline. Well,

1151
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you can trade Khalil he I know

1152
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: he's injured, but like his contract is so big. I

1153
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: would say Allen Robinson would have like ship. I would

1154
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: tell Kyle Shanna and John Lynch, if they win this game,

1155
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: go trade for Allen Robinson. But I've been a lot

1156
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: of teams want Allen Robinson. I would trade to Allen Robinson.

1157
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: I guess you're keeping ro Quand no matter what keeping

1158
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: fields no matter what Eddie Jackson. Maybe, has Eddie Jackson

1159
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: even been that good since Fangio left Hot take? No,

1160
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't. Uh. You know Ryan Pace, Listen, Naggie, you

1161
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: say whatever you want. I'm biased on this one, Um,

1162
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: and I'll be honest. I haven't even watched that much

1163
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: Bears this year, but Ryan Pace is terrible. I mean

1164
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: he's a god awful GM. I mean, the one mistake

1165
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie made is hitching his wagon to Ryan Pace

1166
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Ryans is not good. He's

1167
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: just not. I mean, he's just a below average general manager. Um, simple,

1168
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. You know I've seen Matt

1169
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Naggy win football games now as he had some offensive

1170
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: struggles being an offensive guy. Yeah, but he ain't picking

1171
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: the players right. What parcels say? You want me to

1172
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: cook dinner, Let me pick the groceries. You know it's

1173
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: it's if I if I went shopping for Emerald Leaghassi.

1174
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: You know it might not be as easy to make

1175
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: his meal. Right. If you let Emerald shop for the meal,

1176
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: his meal is gonna taste a lot better. I'm not

1177
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: saying Naggi's Emerald Legassi, but I don't think he's bad

1178
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: as everyone's making about to be. And I think Ryan

1179
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: Pace is atrocious as a general manager. I mean, you

1180
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: got to draft multiple quarterbacks in the top twelve. When

1181
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: does that ever happen? I'm a Saints fan and enjoyed

1182
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: Camp Jordan in the past, but can you talk about

1183
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: how he's literally just stealing money on his contract at

1184
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 1: this point. One sack on the year on Gino Smith

1185
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: was a covered sack. The guy can't create anything on

1186
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: his own anymore. I heard a stat today that the

1187
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: Saints are one of the uh they get the least

1188
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: they get there, one of the teams that gainst the

1189
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: LEAs the amount of pressure in the league. I think

1190
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard. You know, is cam anywhere near what

1191
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: he was four or five years ago? Of course not,

1192
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: But I would imagine he brings a tangible value to

1193
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: the team. Now I'd have to bring up his contract.

1194
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, there's a balance like, Okay, he's the best

1195
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: leader we got, but at nineteen million dollars, is it

1196
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: worth it? You know he's making I mean he's made

1197
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Jams Jones been the league or

1198
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: Chandler excuse me, not Chandler. Cam Jordan's Cam Jordan's. I

1199
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: guess Cam Jordan hasn't made as much money as I thought.

1200
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: He's made forty two million dollars. He's making fourteen million

1201
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: dollars this year. He's not going anywhere. He's thirty two. God,

1202
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: he's old. Calbert got Jeff Tedford could recruit, you know,

1203
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: he really good. Jeff Tedford, Cam Jordan, Aaron Rodgers, Keenan Allen,

1204
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: Alex Mack, Mitchell Schwortz. That guy guy drafted a lot

1205
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: of good player, you know, Michael kendricks Um, you know,

1206
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: Jeff ted for knew what he was doing. There's nothing

1207
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: you can do like Cam Jordan's on your team. I mean,

1208
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's just. Yeah, you're not the same. Yeah,

1209
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, are you stuck with him? Maybe at least

1210
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: next year too. I just look at his contract. Probably

1211
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: so you just you gotta get leadership. That's the key leadership.

1212
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: Pass rush as part of the deal with getting old right.

1213
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: You know. The thing with football, if it was the

1214
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: like Cam Jordan's equivalent in the NBA, he could still

1215
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: be a solid player. Cam Jordan's equivalent in professional baseball.

1216
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: He could still be a good player thirty two ten

1217
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: years defensive line and he's like the hybrid kind of

1218
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: tackle end. He's just a lot of wear and tear

1219
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: at his body. Man, look at J. J. Watt. I

1220
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: think of the injuries that guys had the last three

1221
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: or four years. Your body, you just take a pounding

1222
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: in there and it's just it's you're like, it's like

1223
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: the running back equivalent. It just wears you out. Okay,

1224
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: last question. I've been listening to content since the Fox

1225
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: Sports radio days and love the pot. I'm a die

1226
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: hard Chiefs fan and this season has been disappointed, to

1227
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: say the least. I used to work for any read

1228
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: in your opinion, do you think he can write the

1229
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: ship and get to the playoffs as a wild card?

1230
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Thanks and keep on crushing. Well, let's pull up all

1231
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: ol chief schedule. They got played Monday night football, so

1232
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: they played the Giants this week. I'm gonna say they

1233
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: win that game, so they would be four and four.

1234
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: Then they go on a pretty tough stretch. At four

1235
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: and four, they have this is a we're gonna learn.

1236
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: We'll know about them going into Thanksgiving, so they'll be

1237
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: four and four. Then they play the Packers, the Raiders,

1238
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys. If they can win two of those

1239
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: three games and be five and four, I think they

1240
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: have a chance. If they lose two or three of those,

1241
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna miss the playoffs, and the Raiders and

1242
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: Chargers probably gonna make it from the division. So I'm

1243
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: assuming they're gonna win the Giants. I think that's fair

1244
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: to assume. I wouldn't guess. I mean, I don't know.

1245
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: They're what ESPN ticker have the with the spread, it's

1246
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: a nine points, nine and a half point spread. I mean,

1247
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: they're a big favorite. So then they just gotta beat

1248
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: the Packers, Raiders and uh, Packers, Raiders and Cowboys. That's

1249
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: a fun stretch if you're a Chiefs fan, Like, if

1250
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: you win all three of those games, all of a sudden,

1251
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: you're seven and four, you're feeling good. You lose two

1252
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: or three, they'd be in some trouble because their defense

1253
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: isn't good enough to rattle off four or five straight wins.

1254
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: So you just they've already put themselves behind the eight ball.

1255
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: I think the way you look at it, you go,

1256
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: we got an elite coach and we got an elite quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you have an elite coach and elite quarterback you

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Speaker 1: saw on Thursday Night football, you can win a game.

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Speaker 1: It's just that simple. You can win a road game,

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Speaker 1: you can win a short week game. You can win games.

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Speaker 1: So you got a chance. When you say a huge

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Speaker 1: part of life is just just give me a chance, right,

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Speaker 1: Just just just give me one day. See if you

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Speaker 1: like me. That's all I'm asking for us a date, right,

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Speaker 1: just just give me a chance. And that's what Andy

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Speaker 1: Read and Patrick Momes provide. Have a good weekend, audios,

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Speaker 1: tell your friends, and uh see you next week. Peace

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Speaker 1: The volume