1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: God bless football, Mike, Yay. 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: God bless football, Mike Golick. 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: God bless football, Taylor, God blessed football, Swots. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 4: Thank you. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: I think today Mike Golick is focused on baseball not football, 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Is that bear? 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 4: Mike? 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm telling you, what a what a comeback 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 5: for the Guardians. It's just absolutely amazing, And what a 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 5: what a letdown for Detroit again that they would They're 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 5: still going to get the headline for the collapse, but 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 5: they're at least they're still in it, unlike the Mets 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 5: with a three hundred and forty million dollars payroll and 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 5: losing to the Marlins on the last game of the 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 5: season to be ousted. 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you doing that to me, Mike, I'm 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: trying to be excited about your big day. The Guardians 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: epic comeback, they make the playoffs, they take on the Tigers. 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: You have to bring it back to the fucking Mets. 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: I mean, do you do it? 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, Hey, whenever you can throw grenades at 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: the Mets, you do it, right, Just just you know 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 5: their fans are like Jets. 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: Fans, right Yeah, well no they are. 25 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,919 Speaker 5: What is. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: Mike? 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: But you're not gonna be surprised because baseball is funny. 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: The Guardians did have the epic comeback. The Tigers kind 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: of just you know, they kind of backdoored their way 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: in here. You're not gonna be You're not gonna be 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: surprised if the Tigers end up winning that series though, correct, Oh. 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I won't. I mean, listen, Cleveland's not 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 5: a heck of a run right now and Detroit's not. 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 5: But no, no, I I would not be surprised. I'm amazed. 35 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 5: In the American League, it's like the the AL Central 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: playing one another like, like I said, Detroit and Cleveland 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 5: and the AL East through two rounds right Boston and 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 5: New York and then takes on Toronto and they just 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 5: continueing the regular season. Right. Uh. 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Mikey A just sent me a foot We were having 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: a conversation before we went on air, but just random 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: names you have in your contact list, okay, just for 43 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: all the years at ESPN, and and I was saying, 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: why do I have one Pierre's number? And then mikey 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: A was like, and so mikey A just started sending 46 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: me a slew of numbers. One of them was Johnny 47 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: Damon who I FaceTime. My Mike was answering that question 48 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: by mistake. 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Did the answer no, you go call you back. I 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: have no idea. Listen, Johnny Damon is a buddy. I 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: actually ran into Johnny Damon. I was coming home from 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Disney and we were both at the Orlando Airport going 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: to the going on a flight to Connecticut and it 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: got delayed. 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: And I just was like, Hey, that's Johnny. 56 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: Johnny I know, introduced myself and I thought that was 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: gonna be it. You know, I thought I was just saying, 58 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: Taylor knows the move. You just say hi and you 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: get out of their way. 60 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: Nope. 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: He sat next to me, and of all things, he 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about his fantasy football team, and that 63 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: it was a Monday night flight and the Jets were 64 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: playing the Falcons on Monday night. We had a Jet blue, 65 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: so everybody was watching the game on the flight. He 66 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: knew I was a Jet fan. We land the jet 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: that's pulled off the wind and he stood up before 68 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: the plane was even done taxiing to look for me 69 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: in the back and got one Mike and since then 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: I am I am a big Johnny Damon fan. 71 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: Get him on the show. 72 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: Now, wait a second, So when you answer a phone call, 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: it comes up black, right, not red? 74 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: Is that? Is that the way it works on the iPhone? 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: Because I think Johnny Damon picked. 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Up and I just hung up because I was scared 77 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: and nervous and I didn't know what to do. 78 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 4: I mean, oh wow, yeah, yeah. 79 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: The red would be if you missed it, the red 80 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: if you missed the call. 81 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Okay, but what if someone misses your call? How does 82 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: it come up? They all come up black? Yes, okay, 83 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: so maybe Johnny Damon didn't. 84 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: Answer my phone call. 85 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 5: In the world right now, go with that story? 86 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh god, Mike, Just going back to college football on 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: last weekend for just a second. What do you do 88 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: if your Penn State with a head coaching job when 89 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: you have a guy who has been head coach who 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: can't beat a top ten team, whether it's inside the 91 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Big ten or outside the Big ted James Franklin's simply 92 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: a coach who. 93 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: Was not good against good teams. What do you do there? 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 5: It's amazing four and twenty one against ap top ten teams, 95 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: one in eighteen against top ten Big ten teams. It's 96 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I mean, he obviously coaches wins outside 97 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 5: of that, but it's how long do you deal with that? 98 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 5: I mean, Martin Schottenheimer took the Cleveland Browns two AFC 99 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 5: title games, couldn't get into the super Bowl and got fired. 100 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 5: I don't wish anybody to get fired, but we know 101 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: it's the nature of the beast. It's like at some 102 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: point you say, okay, can't get over the hump. I mean, hell, 103 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: was Ryan Day going to go through that? I mean, 104 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 5: think about Ryan Day lost to Michigan, but still the 105 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 5: four years in a row. But the last year was 106 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 5: the first year of the twelve team playoffs. If it 107 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: was still fourteen playoffs, they wouldn't have got in. Who 108 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: knows if he's still has a job, but they get in, 109 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 5: they win the title, and he's the toast of the town. 110 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 5: So I mean, you can only go so far when 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 5: you're a program like Penn State that said we need 112 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 5: to get over the hump, and you're not getting over 113 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: the hump. It's it's been a lot of different players, 114 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 5: but there's been one common thing, and it's been it's 115 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: been James Franklin, who I do think is a good coach, 116 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: but there's obviously something happening that he can't get over 117 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 5: the big game. 118 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: So I think Penn State fans have kind of come 119 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: to expect the losses to the top ten teams, and 120 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: they're going to to Ohio State to the horseshoe. I 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: think Penn Sate fans have already penciled that in for 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: a loss. I think the James Franklin dagger the next 123 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: week versus a top ten Indiana. 124 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 5: Indiana team, Yeah, I thought that too. I mean, I'm 125 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 5: sure Penn State fans are going in with a bad thought. 126 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: I agree about Ohio State, but Indiana, Man, the way 127 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: they smoked Illinois and now they pulled out I think 128 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: a five point win last week against Iowa. Yeah, but Signetty, 129 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: he's got a he's a tough coach, runs has a 130 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 5: tough team. In their quarterback I think has fourteen touchdowns, 131 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: no interceptions, Mendoza, he's been playing incredibly well. I agree. 132 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: If they drop those two games, there's there's definitely gonna 133 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 5: be some chatter. 134 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: Starting Mike is Alabama back. 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 5: Well. I mean, I'm a Kalin Debor fan. It would 136 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: have the chatter just would have been so much louder 137 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 5: had they lost to Georgia, but you know, they they've 138 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 5: kind of had Georgia's number. I don't know if they're back. 139 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: I think I think consistency needs to be a key 140 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: for them. Now they're taking on Vanderbilt, which beat him 141 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: in that incredibly high scoring game last year, you know, 142 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: with Diego pavia as the crazy quarterback, you know, with 143 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 5: the great personality who had a monster game, So that 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: this will be a good test from year to year 145 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: and losing that game and how they do they do 146 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 5: they lose it, do they win it? Do they win 147 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 5: it convincingly? I think still inconsistencies are are the word 148 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: because you're comparing it to Saban, who was just dominant. 149 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: So if you're not dominant, it's like, why the hell 150 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: can't you be dominant? The last coach was dominant. 151 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame had a nice victory there, Mike, you're starting 152 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: to stack up victories against mediocre teams. 153 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sad it cost Sam Pittman his job. I 154 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 5: like Sam Pittman a lot. 155 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I. 156 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 5: Mean, listen, the one thing they can if you can 157 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 5: hang your hat on a loss, is both losses to 158 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 5: high rated teams Texas A and m is what six 159 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: and Miami is three. It was a three point loss 160 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: to Miami and a one point loss to Texas A 161 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 5: and M So you hope those two teams keep winning 162 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: for Notre Dame's sake, so they continue to look like 163 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: really good losses at the end of the year, and 164 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 5: Notre Dame's got to run the table. Right they're sitting 165 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: at what twenty one? Now? Don't keep moving, we off 166 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: because teams in front of them will drop down. We'll 167 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: lose games and drop down, and if Notre Dame goes undefeated, 168 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 5: they probably have a good shot to get in right. 169 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: You and Sam Pittman are boys? Huh? 170 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: We were not aware that you and Sam Pittman were 171 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: good friends. He said, he's a very nice guy. 172 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: You like him? 173 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't have to be good friends 174 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 5: to think he's a good guy and a good coach, 175 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 5: right right, which he is. He's a good guy, he's 176 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: good coach. So, but like you said, change happens quicker nowadays. 177 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: Yep. Was there a sorry teller, Mike? 178 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Was there a part of you that was bummed that 179 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: Florida State lost that game because you wanted Florida State 180 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: undefeated headed into the Miami game this week, and it's 181 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: still it's still a big game. It's the game of 182 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the weekend, no question about it, and one loss does 183 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: not kill you now with a new playoff. But you 184 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of bummed to see Virginia beat Florida State because 185 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: you want Florida State undefeated against Miami undefeated. 186 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely wanted that. I definitely wanted that. But man, 187 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: Virginia put up forty six that that I did not expect. 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie, but but yes, yes, for for 189 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: just the thrill of college football over like those two 190 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 5: teams which are too heavy blue bloods who haven't been 191 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 5: near the top in a little bit to be to 192 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 5: both be back. It doesn't mean Florida State can't pull 193 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: off the wind, but Miami, Miami's Miami's lined. They have 194 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: a really good quarterback in car obviously, but their lines 195 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 5: of scrimmage are winning all the time, and that that's 196 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: obviously a huge key for them. 197 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: Stu, what I was gonna say is Sam Pittman was 198 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: a defensive end in college, so him and Golikaf the 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: defensive line camaraderie. 200 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: A couple of d's cutting it up. 201 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Huh, huh, Well, Sam has some time on his hands. Now, 202 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: perhaps you'd like to join us here on God Blessed Football. 203 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know weekly segment. 204 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 5: He does have some times, got himself a decent, decent 205 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: little buyout, So you not wrong with that? 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have his number. I mean no, I don't. Yeah, 207 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: you do, you do? 208 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: You do have it. It's somewhere in there. You just 209 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: don't want to look for it and you don't want 210 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: to use it. 211 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: I mean I don't think I have it. I really don't. 212 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: Okay, Sorry, I'm I'm yelling at you. 213 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: Mike. 214 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: What did you think of Old Miss this weekend? Beating 215 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: LSU and the dilemma that Lane Kiffin kind of has 216 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: on his hands with their quarterback Austin Simmons kind of 217 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: getting healthier. But since they've made the switch over to 218 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: Trinidad Chambliss, they have looked like a completely different offense. 219 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, listen, I injury is not supposed to 220 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 5: cost you your job, but it certainly has in the past. 221 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 5: I think that's I think that's kind of outdated. I 222 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: think Lane will go with a hot hand. I mean, 223 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 5: I both quarterbacks can do a good job, but he'll 224 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 5: he'll keep the run going. It's a nice win, especially 225 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: against an LSU team that the strength of that team 226 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: is their defense, and they did, you know, put up 227 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: twenty four against LSU because LSU's offense. There there was 228 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 5: a number of quarterbacks that said is supposed to be 229 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 5: a deep class that really aren't performing the way we 230 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 5: thought they would perform at this point, and that LSU 231 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 5: offense normally is an explosive offense, but it's not really 232 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 5: this year. They've been really living off the defense. Mike. 233 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: You mentioned the quarterbacks and we were told this is 234 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: going to be the big draft class. This is going 235 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: to be a big group of quarterbacks, from Nussmyer to 236 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Club Nick, you know, Leonora Sellers and I feel like 237 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: all arch Manning. 238 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 5: I feel like all of them are kind of disappointing 239 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: in a way. 240 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: It is it just we overvalued them, or is it 241 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: that defenses are are playing better? 242 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: What is it? I think we overvalued them. The kid 243 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 5: Club Nick, I didn't buy into. We had a great 244 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 5: year last year, but it was a one year and 245 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: you thought, okay, can you do it again? But all 246 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 5: of a sudden people were talking about him as a 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 5: number one pick, I'm like, you got to give it 248 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 5: a little bit of time. I mean, you got you 249 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 5: got to see how he develops. But you know, I 250 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 5: mean it's been Mendoza from Indiana. It's been more from Oregon, 251 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: you know, who have really kind of stepped up and 252 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: not been the names that we thought little Norse Scheller's 253 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: got he got he got injured, which certainly didn't help. 254 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: Carson Beck is playing well, but you know, it was 255 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: kay Klubnik and Nussmeier. Uh and then they just they 256 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 5: just haven't hit their stride. So maybe it was being overvalued. 257 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Mikey, you know why all the quarterbacks are disappointing this 258 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: year because the Jets might have the number one pick. 259 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: The Jets will have the number one pick. So it's 260 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: just the way, it's just the way it works as 261 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: a Jets. 262 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: They're playing bad purposely because they're trying to avoid the Jets. 263 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: They don't want the Jets to think they're any good. 264 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: That's what they're trying to do. 265 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: Smart smart, it's a smart QB class. No, I'm alleging 266 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: that the Jets are going to get the number one pick, 267 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: so of course, just the way it breaks out with 268 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: the same old Jets. The one year they do get 269 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: the number one pick, nobody's gonna be worth a number one. 270 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: Pick, right, yes, yeah, next right, next. 271 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: Year they'll they'll draft somebody who kind of gets them, 272 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: you know that that eight and nine mark, and then 273 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: the next quarterback in this next class will be the 274 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: next Josh Allen, the next Patrick Mahomes. 275 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: Right, it's not it's not just about being bad in 276 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Timing has everything to do with it. 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Who could kind of, you know, 328 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: maybe keep you afloat until Joe Burrow comes back mid 329 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: to end December. But Browning has been a complete disasters 330 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: and so I'm wondering, Right, you wake up today, you're 331 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, what are you telling the front office? Like, 332 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: what do you do at the quarterback position? If you're 333 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals? Do you go to a Russell Wilson? Do 334 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: you look at Jamis Wilson, Jameis Winston? Do you try 335 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: to pry Philip Rivers at of retirement? 336 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: What do you do? 337 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: I think you have to look at what's available now. 338 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 5: And I would say, like a Jameis Winston. I don't 339 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 5: think Kirk Cousin is going to be traded. Plus, he's 340 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: gonna cost you a lot of money unless and we're 341 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: talking about the Bengals here, unless the Atlanta Falcons would 342 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: eat a lot of that money. But yeah, you have 343 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: Russ Wilson and Jameis Winston. I would go with Jameis Winston. 344 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: I mean, now, again, you have to bring somebody in. 345 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 5: They have to learn the offense. So there's still going 346 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 5: to be that learning curve that they have to Obviously, 347 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 5: Browning no new the offense has been there three years, 348 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: but it's just not happening. And listen, I know you're 349 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: wasting the wide receivers that you have. But even if 350 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: Jamis Winston came in. Your offensive line isn't very good. 351 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 5: Your running game is not very good at all. Your 352 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 5: running game is the worst in the NFL. So the 353 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: quarterback is getting no help. You're getting hit, you're getting chased, 354 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 5: and you have no running game to help. So I, 355 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 5: in all honesty, I don't know what good it's going 356 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: to do when you don't have a good running game 357 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: to help a play action and it takes some pressure 358 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: off the quarterback and you're just dropping back, you know, 359 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: forty forty five times a game with that line in 360 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: front of you, and you're running for your life. So 361 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 5: I while they could go get a better quarterback, I 362 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: don't know if it's gonna do much good. 363 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: Is Joe Burrow in his absence proving that he's the 364 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: most important player in the NFL. 365 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, you could. You could go through 366 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: a lot of the top teams take their quarterback out 367 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 5: and they're not gonna be very good. But boy, yeah, 368 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 5: I mean, and again, depending on a backup. Remember Cooper 369 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: Rush was backing up Dak Prescott when four one or 370 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 5: five in one when Dak was out. There are some backups. 371 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 5: I was wondering about Carson Wentz had a good first 372 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 5: game as a backup and not so good the second game. 373 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 5: So let's see where he goes. A lot of teams, 374 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 5: It's about the value you put your backup. 375 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: Quarterback Carson Wentz with those wide receivers. I didn't even 376 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 4: think of Carson Wentz. 377 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 5: Wow. 378 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: I mean, but he has justin Jefferson. 379 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 5: And Adison came back. Had over one hundred yards his 380 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: first game back. 381 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Mike, what were your thoughts last night? Did you feel 382 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: bad when you saw that Tarik Hill injury? 383 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: All right, listen, I always feel bad when a player 384 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 5: gets hurt, especially with a major injury like that. And 385 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: I mean his legs facing the wrong way. I mean 386 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 5: you just you're like, wow, and so dislocated knee, torn ligaments. 387 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: I mean for a guy who lives on quicks and speed, 388 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 5: so and he's been in the league a while as well, 389 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 5: you wonder how much that's going to affect him. 390 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: When you were playing, Mike, did you have I'm just 391 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: wondering what it feels like for a teammate when you 392 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: have a teammate go down the way Tarreek Hill went 393 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: down last night, and you know it's season ending. 394 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 4: You've had it right, Well, you went down? Is that 395 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: what you're saying? 396 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: What happened nineteen ninety one? 397 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Right? 398 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: I think it was ninety one. We were primed to 399 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 5: We were like one of the favorite as the top 400 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 5: teams in the app Yeah, go to Green Bay to 401 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 5: opening day, Bryce pop hit Randall Cunningham in the knee, 402 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 5: blew his knee out. Yes, and that started the cavalcade 403 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 5: of backup quarterbacks that came in. We were literally on 404 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 5: the sideline as defensive players, going, no way, that just 405 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 5: fucking happened, right, no way. We just lost our golden 406 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 5: child for the entire season in game one. Oh, it's devastating. 407 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: What do you say to the player? Is there anything 408 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: you can say to the player? 409 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: Because you know what happens, nobody else in the league 410 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: cares and next Sunday you gotta play another game. And 411 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 5: it's game one. It was game one. We got a 412 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: whole season. What can you say? Next? Man up? You 413 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 5: can't sit there and worry about it. You gotta prepare 414 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 5: for the next team. You gotta work out, you gotta 415 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 5: watch film, you gotta lift weight, you gotta practice, and 416 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 5: you gotta get ready for the next game. Or you 417 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 5: get your ass kicked, right, so you just have to 418 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: keep going on. 419 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: But in the moment, the shock of it is like 420 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: all you guys are saying on the sidelines, holy shit, 421 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: our season's over. 422 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: Oh oh without without a question, we were like, now 423 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: we thought we had a great defense, maybe we could 424 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: help carry you know, the team. You try and find 425 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 5: ways to say we can still do it, which I'm 426 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: sure they did in Cincinnati. Jake Browning knows the offense, 427 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: we have great receivers, you know. That's unfortunately about all 428 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: you can say for them. They don't have a great 429 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 5: running game or a great defense, so you're going to 430 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 5: go so far with that. But you know, you you 431 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: find reasons to look at to say why you can 432 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 5: still win. You have got to throw your toweling. For us, 433 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: it was week one, you know, for Cincinnati it was 434 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: week two. It's like you kind of know within your 435 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 5: heart of hearts that the job just got a lot 436 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 5: lot tougher, right, And at some point during the season, 437 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 5: when you're out of it, you now start to play 438 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: for yourself. Is your contract up? Are you playing for 439 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: a new contract? Is your job security there good or bad? 440 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 5: If it's bad, or you're playing to show tape for 441 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: another team. A lot of things run through your mind. 442 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 4: What was your record that season? Do you remember? 443 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 5: I don't remember. 444 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: Was it a bad season? 445 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 5: Though? I honestly don't. I don't, I honestly don't rememb. 446 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: Someone look up the ninety one Eagles and just see 447 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: how they did. Do you remember any of the quarterbacks 448 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: that replaced Randall Cunning? Do you remember anything about that 449 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: season other than Randall getting hurt? 450 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: So they finished ten and six, third in the NFC 451 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: East and it did knock right. They didn't make the playoffs. 452 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did not make the playoffs with a ten 453 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 5: We still had ten wins. 454 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: Right, which we bad? 455 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean the defense really stepped up. Who played quarterback 456 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: that year? 457 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: Taylor? 458 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 5: Uh? 459 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: Once Randall went down? 460 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 5: We had David Archer, Brad Gable, Jeff Kemp, Jim McMahon. 461 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: Wow, and you went head and six. Who was your 462 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 4: coach ninety one? 463 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: Was that? Was? 464 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: That? 465 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 5: Was that co tighte? I think. 466 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: Yea wait wait waitit bus Titan went ten and six 467 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: with those quarterbacks. 468 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, rich rich a buddy had gotten fired and 469 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 5: rich Coe Tite. Yeah, we had Dave Archer, Brad Gable, 470 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 5: Jeff Kemp, Jim McMahon, I mean it was we That's 471 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 5: the year we gave up like thirteen points a game. 472 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: Were the number one defense in the league, right, but 473 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: we were only scoring like fourteen points a game? Right? 474 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: What do you think your record would have been if 475 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham was healthy and been the quarterback the entire season? 476 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: Would Rich Coe type a Super Bowl winning champion quarter 477 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 4: out coach? 478 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 5: We really thought that we had the best team in 479 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: the league that year, right, I mean we were literally 480 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: besstated yes when he blew his knee out. 481 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 482 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: So I have a blurb from Football Outsiders about the 483 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one Eagles and it says, according to their 484 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: metrics the defense, they were the greatest defensive team in 485 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: its rankings history. It's crazy to imagine how few points 486 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: the Eagles might have given up if they were playing 487 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: with a halfway defense decent offense. Instead of losing Randall Cunningham, 488 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: the Eagles were lucky to have the lovable and fiercely 489 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: competitive Jim McMahon for eleven starts Plush, Jeff Kemp, and 490 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: who was the other one, Mike Brad. 491 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 5: Jeff Kemp, Brad Gable, Dave Archer. 492 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: Brad gable Man was pretty terrific, but the other two 493 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: quarterbacks were awful. 494 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen Mikey this upset because he is realizing, 495 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: like I am, that even rich co Tight is better 496 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: off at another organization. 497 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: He was ten and six Mikey with Jim McMahon. 498 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 5: And the six. 499 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: If we're also being a little self reflective, I didn't 500 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: do the best job reading there. 501 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: It was terrible. I mean, but I didn't want to 502 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: say anything. 503 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: That's all right. That was kind of our season that year, 504 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 5: like we said, though still ten wins, right, it didn't 505 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 5: even make the playoffs. 506 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but what do you think of Taylor's reading? I mean, 507 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: that was awful. 508 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't good. 509 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: Waits a Mike. 510 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: That was your super Bowl opportunity right there. Oh my god, 511 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: that was that. 512 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: That's why people always get would get mad at me 513 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 5: when they would ask what's the greatest one year defense? 514 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 5: And they would get mad. I didn't say, like that year, 515 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: I think we think we had the triple Crown passing, defense, 516 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 5: rushing total and other things were number one as well. 517 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: We were one of the top defenses for a number 518 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 5: of years. 519 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 4: The co Tyite win Coach of the Year. I mean 520 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: he should have. 521 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't think 522 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 5: he did. I mean, we we had listen, one of 523 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: the reasons we were a great defense. Now we had 524 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 5: we had Buddy Ryan for years, but Bud Carson was 525 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 5: our de coordinator under right, and he's one of the 526 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 5: greatest decordinators ever. But I would say it's tough to 527 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: say that Eagles year was the best greatest one year 528 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 5: defense because we didn't win a Super Bowl like the 529 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: eighty five Bears, like the one year of the Tampa won. 530 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: It had the great defense and one year both great defense. 531 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: They closed the deal. 532 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: So this says three fourths of the starting defensive line 533 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: was all Pro Reggie White, Jerome Brown, and Clyde Simmons. 534 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 5: I was the fourth me Mike Pitch. We had three 535 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 5: d tackles, Jerome Brown, Whit Pitts and myself, and we 536 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 5: roared Andy Harmon as well. But yeah, I mean those 537 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: three went to the Pro Bowl, Seth Joyner went to 538 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl, Eric Allenan and Pro Bowl. I mean, 539 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: the defense was unbelievable. You got robbed. 540 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: Nobody got out of Reggie White's way better than Mike 541 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: golick I. 542 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: Don't tell you read that one very well. 543 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: That was like, I mean, it just rolled right off 544 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: the tongue because you were taking a shot at Golic 545 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: on purpose. 546 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: Great job, right, I. 547 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: Tell you don't know the stories that Reggie White would 548 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: tell Mike just to stay put so he wouldn't get 549 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: Reggie's way. 550 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: I mean, well, I mean the fact that I got 551 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: double teamed as many times as I didn't lead you 552 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: would a single team. 553 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 4: You know, you're a pro bowler to us, Mike, That's 554 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 4: all that matters. 555 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: Whatever, Mike, what is wrong with the Baltimore Ravens. 556 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: Well, obviously injuries are killing him. Now they have seven starters. 557 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 5: They had three more hurt in the game. What rokewand Smith, 558 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 5: Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins. Yeah, we already had somehow, 559 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 5: Kyle van Noy's been out, met Abks out for the 560 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: year now. So they basically have seven starters that are 561 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 5: are hurt. And remember last year, the defense weeks one 562 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 5: through eleven gave up monster big plays, and then week 563 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: twelve through eighteen they kind of got it together, but 564 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 5: then in the first game against Buffalo to give up 565 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 5: forty one points. So the defense is susceptible to giving 566 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: up big plays. And now how bad is Lamar Jackson's 567 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: hammy because he already hasn't been running as much as 568 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: he's run last year, like a couple games end of 569 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 5: the season, he was averaging four runs a game, where 570 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 5: for his career he was averaging basically nine to ten 571 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: runs a game, and now with a hammy, he'd probably 572 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 5: be running less. So it's weird to say. You keep saying, well, 573 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: they have a great roster, they have a great roster. 574 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 5: Well they're getting hurt kind of like San Francisco did 575 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 5: last year, and Pittsburgh is just quietly staying at the 576 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: top of the division. 577 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: Right. 578 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: Football is so weird where if you ask people through 579 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: three quarters of the first game of the year Baltimore 580 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: and Buffalo, people would have said Baltimore is going to 581 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, and now people are 582 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: wondering if they'll make the playoffs three weeks later. 583 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 5: It's exactly right. That's the one thing you can have 584 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 5: prognosticate is injuries, right Randall, All of a sudden, you 585 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: go down, you lose, you lose key players here and there, 586 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: I mean backups. You're still in the NFL and you're 587 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 5: good enough to be in the NFL, but you're a 588 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: backup for a reason, right, not as good as the starter. 589 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: So then you multiply that by five, six, seven players 590 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 5: on one side of the ball, and it shows. 591 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: So I have a hard time wondering, like knowing if 592 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: Kansas City is actually back or not, because I don't 593 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: know if they beat a good football team on Sunday. 594 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 5: It's it's so weird now. Obviously, the passing game was good, 595 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 5: with Mahomes throwing four touchdowns, but Xavier Worthy led them 596 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: in rushing and receiving. I know, Zavier Worthy only ran 597 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: the ball two times. Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt combined 598 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: ran it for twenty times in sixty nine yards, so 599 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 5: that's a little over three yards of carry. That's not 600 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 5: a great running game at all. So I'm not sure. 601 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 5: I'm still not sure about. 602 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: Them, not sure about Kansas It's hard not. 603 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 5: Sure if I can'tas City. But now the Chargers lost 604 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 5: the game, so they have a loss. Obviously, Casey has 605 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 5: a couple of losses, Denver has a couple of losses, so. 606 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: This Super Bowl feels like it's buffaloes to lose. Is 607 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: that fair. 608 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: I mean, we keep talking about Buffalo or Baltimore. They 609 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 5: got to make Hay and now Baltimore with the injuries, 610 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: has gone down. Now we'll see. Obviously Matta BK's out 611 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: for the year, but will the other guys heel up 612 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: and be able to contribute? Can they come back and 613 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 5: build that roster? But Buffalo seems to be the team 614 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 5: right now. Mike. 615 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: How many teams are you sure about? Would you say, 616 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean, whether they're good or bad? How many teams 617 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: do you know what they are at this point? 618 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: Does the Jets are dead? 619 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 5: I mean, well, yeah, Like I think you kind of 620 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: know who Buffalo is. I think you know who Philadelphia is. Sure. 621 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 5: I don't think a lot's gonna change with them. Detroit. 622 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: I think we're pleasantly surprised at what they're doing without 623 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 5: their coordinators and some on defense. I think you know 624 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: who Tampa Bay is. I think you know who the 625 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: Rams are as well? 626 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: Do you know who the Chargers are or the Colts? 627 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 5: The Chargers if they take some running game going and 628 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 5: Alarion Hampton is really really coming on, because that's something 629 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh is known for. Defense, in a running game, 630 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: they have Quinton Johnson is really stepping up and becoming 631 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 5: what they thought he would be. And you have Keenan 632 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 5: Allen and Ladd McConkey, so you have receivers, but you 633 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 5: lost Rashawn Slater after he signed his big deal, the 634 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 5: left tackle right tackle Joe Allt won from right tackle 635 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 5: to left tackle, and he got hurt in the game 636 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: as well, So now you have some question marks on 637 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 5: the offensive line. 638 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: So I think stud you go to the salespeople, you 639 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: pitch them a segment called sure or not Sure, presented 640 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: by SR Mike's golick. 641 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 5: Sure not sure? The Patriots sure about what they they are? Yeah, Well, 642 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: I think I think they're still growing under for Abel. 643 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: But I think for this year, I think you kind 644 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: of know what they are. I think you know you're 645 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: gonna keep building around Drake May and you know v 646 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: Abel's always gonna have a tough defense. So I think 647 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 5: I think you basically know the personality of that team. 648 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: Right. Why are we doing this with the microphones and 649 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: not the deodorants? I mean, what do you I think. 650 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: Baker Taylor, I don't know there was adorant. 651 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: The odorants are definitely Oh my goodness, remember those commercials. 652 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: Sure unsure. 653 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 4: Yes, we'll do it like that. Sure, unsure. 654 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, Wow, I mean, listen, their defense is good. 655 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 5: They have one of the best running backs in the league, 656 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 5: so Daniel Jones doesn't have to do it all himself, 657 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: so they have They have a pretty complete team. I'm 658 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 5: definitely sure about them and Jacksonville. Look at Jacksonville going 659 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 5: and Jacksonville is not even doing it with the armor 660 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 5: of Trevor Lawrence. They're run about. Travis at TN is 661 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 5: having a year. I think he's third in rushing. Their 662 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 5: defense is playing well, so the way you expected them 663 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 5: to do it with Brian Thomas at receiver and then 664 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 5: bringing in Travis Hunter's receiver. The passing game is so so, 665 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 5: the running game is really good. 666 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: Wow, you're sure about the Jaguars, right, Well, we're sure about. 667 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: The Tennessee Titans. 668 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: But what about the Houston Texans in that division? 669 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 5: Unsure? 670 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: I'm sure? 671 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 5: Sure? 672 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 673 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 5: Just wow? 674 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: I mean wow, how could you be sure? 675 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's impossible to be sure about them, right, can't. 676 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 3: So it looks like sure Deodorant wasn't It wasn't not 677 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: fully discontinued, but it looks like they had a major 678 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: recall for most of their products. 679 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: Uh, they weren't sure they were Unjai. 680 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 5: They were a monster deodorant for years. They were, they 681 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 5: were one of the top ones for years. 682 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: But you didn't name another microphote company. 683 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what. 684 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 6: A ridiculous game by sure, Mike profoones he's trying, trying, No, 685 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 6: he is, he is. He's right, right, he's trying. 686 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: Mike. You're right. You're very nice, you're very kind, you're 687 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: very gentle. 688 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 5: Uh. 689 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 4: Buffalo, by the way, is the favorite on FanDuel right now. 690 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: They're plus four p fifty to win the Super Bowl, 691 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: so they're favorite over Philadelphia. 692 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: Huh Taylor Philadelphia. 693 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you have to wonder about their passing game, 694 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 5: but they're doing enough to win. 695 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, But Mike, why do I have to wonder about 696 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: the passing game because whenever he needs to. 697 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: Pass, he passes, and he gets the job done and 698 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: they run the football. 699 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: I know. Listen, I agree, right, I agree. Yes, they 700 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 5: do what they need to do to win. That's how 701 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 5: their team morphs. So stude. 702 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: The Eagles are plus six hundred, the second best odds, 703 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: and I think the reason why the Bills have better 704 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 3: odds is the Bills have an easier path than the 705 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: FC to the Super Bowl because the next best odds 706 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: in Super Bowl, behind the Bills and the Eagles, it's 707 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: the Packers and then the Lions. 708 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: Where are the Chiefs? 709 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: Chiefs plus a thousand, They're tied with the Ravens for 710 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 3: for fifth best odds. 711 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: Wow, Just to go back quick to sure or unsure 712 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. I mean I thought I was 713 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 2: sure after week one. 714 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 5: Now I'm not. Yeah, we became unsure about them, didn't we? 715 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we were unsure about the Lions after week one, 716 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: but now we're sure about the Lions. We were sure 717 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: about the Packers after week one, and now we're unsure 718 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: about the Packers. 719 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure we were done with this game for a second. 720 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 5: I called that Unsureckers and Cowboys. 721 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: Wow. 722 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: That that Packers defense man. They could they couldn't get 723 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: pressure on Dak. 724 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: The only thing I'm sure of is about to punch 725 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: Tailor in the face right now. 726 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 4: I mean, that's it. I mean, sure or unsure Jackson Dark. 727 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 5: God Jackson. Dot's gotta be careful how much he runs. 728 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 5: I mean that might have been first start getting this, 729 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 5: but he ran ten times right a couple of those 730 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 5: were designed, but you gotta be careful about taking off 731 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 5: that much. 732 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: Right now, you have the show hosted by Mike. Sure, 733 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 4: is that what you're doing? 734 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I think that. I think that's how we save it. 735 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: Oh no, it's not getting shaved. 736 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 3: Surely, you can't be serious. 737 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: It's like the season went cutting, it went down. There's 738 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: no saving here. 739 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's over. It's over. 740 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: Who's the third string quarterback? That's me right now? 741 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: The third shrinks. 742 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 5: That's giving yourself a lift. 743 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 4: You're David Archer. 744 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: I mean, oh boy, sorry, Mike, all right. 745 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 4: No, it's not all right. 746 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 5: Inventing game shows as we go. 747 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 748 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: I feel like Jalen Hurts is never going to get 749 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: the credit he deserves just. 750 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: Because he's not going to ever pass for forty five 751 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 5: hundred yards and thirty five forty touchdowns. 752 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: But what happened to winning? 753 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 5: Oh no, I agree with you. Right, He's the one 754 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 5: holding the Lombardi Trophy. That's all that matters. 755 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 4: Yep. 756 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: That's interesting what you said about Jackson Dorp because I 757 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: didn't realize he had that skill set in college. He 758 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: didn't show it off that much, the ability to run 759 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: to get out of the pocket and to scoot around there. 760 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: And he did a lot of it in his first 761 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: start in the NFL, and you would advise him, and 762 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: I think you're right. 763 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 4: It's kind of like Anthony richards. 764 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: In, Hey, drop back and throw the damn football man, right, Yeah, you. 765 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: Know you attribute that to rookie rookie Hypeness. You know, 766 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 5: I would say again, some were design runs, like the 767 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 5: touchdown run that Scattaboo was the lead blocker for. But 768 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 5: other times he held the ball along, he was sacked 769 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 5: five times. Other times he took off too quick. That's 770 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 5: rookie stuff. But that's that's the rule for rookie quarterbacks, 771 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 5: especially in their first start, not the exception. You're going 772 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 5: to be a little antsy. He'll grow out of that. 773 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: Mike, are you Are you impressed with bo Nick? Do 774 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: you think bon Knicks would be this good coming out 775 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: of college? 776 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 5: I did. I thought Boonenix would would be good. And 777 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 5: boy to be paired with Peyton or Sean Payton, I mean, 778 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 5: what a boom for his career. But yeah, I mean again, 779 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 5: the dude had what sixty one sixty two starts in college. Now, 780 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 5: that doesn't mean you're going to be great in the NFL, 781 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 5: and he had did had it with a couple of 782 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 5: different systems, so you knew he was smart enough to 783 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 5: learn the system. So and Shawn's system can be pretty taxing. 784 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 5: So I was impressed with him coming into the league 785 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 5: and thought he would be pretty good. 786 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: All right, Mike, good luck with the Guardians today. Sorry 787 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: to bother you, but sure or unsure? That's it's on. 788 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: It's on David Archer over there. 789 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 5: Sometimes I just I just have to endure things. 790 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 4: With you, right, you endure a lot of this show, Mike. 791 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 4: You're mad at Taylor. 792 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: I feel like because he pointed out that three of 793 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: the four defensive line they made the Pro Bowl and 794 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: you weren't one of. 795 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 4: Them, and I feel like you're mad at it. I 796 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 4: feel like you have ever right to be mad at him. 797 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 5: I played nine years and never made a Pro Bowl. 798 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 5: Why would that upset me? 799 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: That sounds like politics to me. 800 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 5: It sounds like you're gonna make it from politics. 801 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 3: They were like, well, we can't take all four. 802 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 5: Right, that's the reason politics. They go with that. You're welcome, 803 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 5: thank you. 804 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 4: We're here for you, Mike, just not Taylor. 805 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 5: That's all Taylor. Wow. Came an enemy of the state 806 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 5: real quick. 807 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 4: Do you know how hard it is to get Golick 808 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 4: mad at you fucking Taylor? 809 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 5: Just ask Billy. 810 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 4: I wish I could