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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: audio network. Wes Shueler Matt Williamson with you here for

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Speaker 2: the next two hours on this Thursday. As we have

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Speaker 2: got plenty to get to. As always, we're going to

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Speaker 2: get through that backlog of tweets finally an hour number two,

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Speaker 2: as well as some fun comps for wide receivers in

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Speaker 2: this twenty twenty six draft class. Two guys who have

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Speaker 2: been in the NFL recently. I want to talk some

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Speaker 2: rule change stuff with you, Matt. Yeah, yeah, as we've

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Speaker 2: got some proposals. This is the time of year that

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Speaker 2: that stuff starts to get reported and then it really

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Speaker 2: picks up.

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Speaker 3: What a little over a week.

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Speaker 2: From now when we're we'll be out at the owners

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Speaker 2: meetings in Phoenix. So plenty to get to on the

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Speaker 2: show today, But we start with some news of the

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Speaker 2: day because I think there's a couple significant things to

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Speaker 2: touch on. First, Matt, let's talk quarterback market here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: as two names that I think, listen, these are not significant,

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Speaker 2: These are not big fish, these are not tipping the

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Speaker 2: scales type signings. But there's always a ripple effect with

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Speaker 2: this stuff. With that, the Vikings bringing back Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles trading for Andy Dalton, pair of veteran quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: on the move here today.

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Speaker 4: Again, that in itself is not needle moving, but the

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Speaker 4: fact that both these rooms now have three prominent quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: is sort of eyebrow raising. Let's start with Philly, I guess.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was reported like a month ago that

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Speaker 4: Dalton was considering retirement, and if he was going to

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Speaker 4: do anything, I thought he would be some mentor kind

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Speaker 4: of like he was de Bryce Young. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: been around the block, you know, a clear number two,

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Speaker 4: some mendozes.

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Speaker 3: I was just about to say, the Raiders backup mends.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's something like that. But the Eagles, what are

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Speaker 4: they needed for? You know what I mean? So I

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Speaker 4: investigated a little bit, And first off, I think the

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Speaker 4: Eagles adore McKee. You said they adore Hurts personally and

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Speaker 4: all that stuff as well. And I originally thought, might

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Speaker 4: Hurts be on the move because maybe we're going to

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Speaker 4: lot more change our offense, And I looked at it

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Speaker 4: very briefly. It would be an astronomical cap hit for

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Speaker 4: them to trade Hurts, And really the only team I

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Speaker 4: they even trade them to? You know, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then I thought about McKee. Obviously there's been a

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Speaker 4: lot of talk that he could be on the move,

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Speaker 4: and you know, could they swap McKee. I'm begetting tweets

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Speaker 4: trade herbig for McKee, blah blah, and we've heard that

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Speaker 4: for months whatever. But my co host came up with

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Speaker 4: a better scenario that I thought was Cardinals. You know,

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Speaker 4: send him a team like that, you know, like third

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Speaker 4: round pick, kind of do the Malik Willis thing that

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Speaker 4: you're picking the top five probably Anyway.

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Speaker 3: I'm back at the same spot a year from now, and.

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Speaker 4: He's Mason Rudolph and for that guy's back up, you know, cool,

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Speaker 4: you know, something along those lines. So I think there

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Speaker 4: could be another shoe to drop in Philly, And I

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Speaker 4: wonder if the same thing's true in Minnesota too. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Wentz is only on one year deal. Kyler's only on

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Speaker 4: one year deal. That's noteworthy. But immediately when I saw that,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, they don't need Wentz and I think he's

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Speaker 4: he has been there before. They must like him. Him

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Speaker 4: and O'Connell must get along well. But I immediately thought, like,

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Speaker 4: if I'm the Rams and I had a decent grade

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Speaker 4: was overdrafted, but as long as he didn't hate him,

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Speaker 4: send a fifth round pick to the Vikes for McCarthy

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you saw, but we

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Speaker 2: got we got a tweeter two you and I and

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Speaker 2: this morning and afternoon about would you give up a

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. Yeah, my answer is no, but I can

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Speaker 2: certainly see the logic and the conversation around it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, it doesn't matter what team is, Steelers, Box, Rams, whoever.

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Speaker 4: I would want to send him somewhere where he's not

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Speaker 4: sit behind Staffer, sit behind Bait Mayfield. He would not

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Speaker 4: then you dislike him more. Point now you like him less,

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Speaker 4: I'd throw Anthony Richardson in that mix, you know, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I'll buy those type of guys at twenty cents on

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Speaker 4: the doll or not eighty cent on the dollar.

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Speaker 3: But you rather have Richardson out of those two?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just more natural a billion.

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Speaker 4: If he hits, he might hit huge, right, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I'd like to see him stay in the

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Speaker 4: I don't know if any of them fit the Steelers timeline, though,

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Speaker 4: I mean considering you know, Rudolph's probably going to be here,

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Speaker 4: Rogers is probably your scheduled seventeen plus game starter, and

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Speaker 4: Howard's my developmental guy, you know, like, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I also got a tweet in the parking

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Speaker 4: lot a minute ago the Steelers had Tom Arth, the

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Speaker 4: Steelers quarterback coach, is in North Dakota as we speak. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't look too much into that. That's what quarterback

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Speaker 4: kicking the tires on this class too. And it's really

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Speaker 4: the same conversation as this class, you know. I mean, McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: Richardson and Nuss and those guys are all kind of

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Speaker 4: the same conversation. You'd have to like one pretty much

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Speaker 4: to say I'm gonna him and Howard are going to

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Speaker 4: battle for the developmental playing time.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, last note Steelers related, I love that they now

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Speaker 4: previous regime. I'm almost certain they do. Arthur is a

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Speaker 4: quarterback coach like he was last Yes, And I think

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Speaker 4: there's an assistant quarterback coach. And I don't remember his

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Speaker 4: Rogers and Rudolph, and the assistant is in charge of

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Speaker 4: if they draft one of them or more, whoever, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Tom Arth quarterbacks coach Tim burbenicch game management and

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks assistant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well you also have Frank Signetti Junior as a senior

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they might have resources coaches a little more

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Speaker 4: developed or more devoted to developing the younger quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 4: I say that dooring the season because like they get

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Speaker 4: Mini came up in preseason. Yeah, I'm not putting Rogers

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Speaker 4: put Rogers or Rudolph out there in preseason. So that

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Speaker 4: was the crime of the Howard injuries. He got all

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Speaker 4: those reps taken away from him. But I'm thinking like

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Speaker 4: dooring the season. I mean, it's really hard to develop

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks during the season. All you care about is beating

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Speaker 4: the Ravens in a couple weeks.

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Speaker 2: You've only got so much time on Wednesday and Thursday

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Speaker 2: to prep and it's not like.

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Speaker 4: You're running scout team.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, I Will Howard can be our starter two

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Speaker 4: Let's work on his elbow getting a little higher on

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Speaker 3: Packages and yes, yes, so that is that. That's interesting.

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Speaker 4: You always should have your eyes and ears open for quarterbacks,

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Speaker 4: even if you Mahomes and Allen and all these guys,

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Speaker 4: but especially when you're in the Steelers boat. I just

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Speaker 4: don't know what the path is, but there are some paths,

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Speaker 2: That And that's probably the most likely path, I would say,

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Speaker 2: summertime and the start of off season programs and all

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Speaker 4: But that's but I'd actually come up with ten teams

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Speaker 4: that should at least kick the tires on McCarthy. Somebody

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Speaker 4: that has a big time starter like that is not

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Speaker 4: getting challenged Josh Allen and Stafford and those type of guys.

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Speaker 3: Let them let him go to QB school for a year,

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Speaker 3: yeah and learn.

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Speaker 4: And maybe it gets gets things you know on track.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we've seen it happen before, and it'll be

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Speaker 2: interesting that the especially the Wentz one, because it's like,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they're bringing back Carson Wentz. Obviously he was

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Speaker 2: We saw him in Dublin under center for the vikings

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Speaker 2: have familiarity with him. But I would be shocked if

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Speaker 2: they're just all right, we're gonna have these three and

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Speaker 2: try and it's just.

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Speaker 3: Almost a normal too many yeah, one, too many miles

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Speaker 3: to feed there and Philly's.

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Speaker 4: Even a little bit weird quarterback room now too.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is, Yes, it is. Matt.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk with you about some rule change

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Speaker 2: stuff here in the first hour of the show, as

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Speaker 2: we've started to have some of the proposals roll out

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Speaker 2: ahead of the owners meetings, and I just think this

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Speaker 2: time of year, it's an interesting conversation to have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple things that.

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Speaker 2: I want to hit on with you, But first, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you saw these reports yesterday. It was

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Speaker 2: right around six o'clock when this came out via Adam

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Speaker 2: Schefter that the NFL is laying the groundwork for hiring

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Speaker 2: replacement officials this season if the league is unable to

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Speaker 2: agree on a new collective bargaining agreement with the NFL

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Speaker 2: Referees Ciation. Yes, the proposed approach is similar to what

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Speaker 2: which extended one hundred and ten days and ended after

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Speaker 2: the third week of the regular season. The current CBA

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Speaker 2: with the Referees Association will expire at the end of May,

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Speaker 2: the NFL at this point, declining to comment, Matt, this

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Speaker 2: just scares me a little bit because I remember that

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Speaker 2: I'm listen. I might not be old, but I'm young

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Speaker 2: enough to remember that twenty twelve season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you had that famous Packers and Seahawks game

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Speaker 2: and it's this whole debacle, And I just I understand

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Speaker 2: how this business works. I understand, and these type of deals,

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Speaker 3: YEA, who's gonna blink first?

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Speaker 2: And the two sides playing chicken and all this stuff

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Speaker 3: I really hope we don't talk about it. I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it, but I don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't have a lot of takes on this.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're they're a very important part of the

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Speaker 4: get to an age where you need to take your

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Speaker 3: Yes, I absolutely know what you mean.

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Speaker 4: Bless her soul. But my grandma never drove her whole

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Speaker 4: She's going reverse. She's not going to reverse. Like even

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Speaker 2: Again another year or two later. Right, Yes, it's it.

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Speaker 2: Listen hopefully this is something that's just now. This is

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Speaker 2: The like the spokesperson or executive director for the referees mentioned,

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Speaker 2: heavier they're criticized than under a microscope now that there's

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I hope we don't talk about it again.

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Speaker 2: Same and then Matt, there's a couple of these. The

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Speaker 2: proposed a rule change. Now, one of these is much

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Speaker 2: theres first, because there's I think is a minor tweak

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Speaker 3: And all those things physical.

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Speaker 2: This would kind of eliminate some of that waiting period,

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Speaker 4: I can't say I see a downside to it. And

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Speaker 4: this is just my me being naive. Why is five

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Speaker 4: because I also need to tackle in a safety blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah. I don't see a problem with it.

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Speaker 2: That was That's the one that I think is again

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure, but as it you know, that changes any

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Speaker 2: And wouldn't change a ton of what we do on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But here's the real one.

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Speaker 2: That I wanted to bring up to you, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 3: It's three now, the current is three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Matt, can I tell you why I hate it?

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Speaker 4: Please to me.

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Speaker 2: It incentivizes the future. And if you want to drag

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Speaker 3: Far down the road. Yeah, we've seen this in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: I knew that there was something with them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and all of a sudden, you've got teams blowing

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Speaker 2: And it's like and totally tanked and they've never gotten

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Speaker 3: And now now.

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Speaker 4: They didn't hit on their picks. No, they didn't make.

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Speaker 4: They didn't end up with Lebron and another.

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Speaker 2: If you if you look at the NBA, the bottom

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Speaker 2: It's just to me, it incentivises, It makes it easier,

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Speaker 2: you've got a bunch of first round picks for next year, great, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: There's a backups everywhere, and they're just.

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Speaker 2: Trying to trade for draft picks in twenty thirty when

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Speaker 4: I lean that way too. So I've mentioned before I

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Speaker 4: your team forever blah blah blah. Yes, and sometimes you'll

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Speaker 2: And yeah, or even think like it could it could

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Speaker 3: And kick the can down the road. What if you

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Speaker 2: Situation and McVeigh and less Snead are like, hey, we're

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Speaker 3: And MAT's that.

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Speaker 2: So let's trade a bunch of our Let's trade our

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna be here anyways.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and traded the team I'm gonna work for. Right,

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Speaker 4: That's a real move. You look at who's probably not

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Speaker 3: I'll trade you next five first round.

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Speaker 4: I'll make the pick this year and I'll give you

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Speaker 4: then you look at him like, I'm gonna take a

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna have my first season. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: I just it's too much. Three years I think is fine,

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Speaker 3: I think things will get a little too long, slippery

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's good for business.

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Speaker 4: So I like that the trade deadline actually matters. When

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Speaker 3: It's not right.

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Speaker 4: So now it's actually good. But it could go the

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Speaker 2: And so that's just something that I felt deserved conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's something Matt that I'm sure at the owner's meetings.

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Speaker 4: That'll be up.

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Speaker 3: That'll be up. We'll talk plenty about the push push

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Speaker 4: like this future draft pick thing. I've never thought, boy,

441
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Speaker 4: wouldn't it be nice to trade four years from now?

442
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Speaker 4: Like I never thought it was a problem. Like it

443
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 4: used to bother me to no end, you couldn't trade compicts.

444
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Speaker 4: I'm like, what's so special about these? It's a seventy

445
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Speaker 4: that's a ninety ninth pick as opposed to the fiftieth pick?

446
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Speaker 4: Why can't I trade this one? Like that bothered me?

447
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Speaker 4: But now it's I've never thought once, boy, wouldn't it

448
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Speaker 4: be nice to be able to trade your two thousand

449
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Speaker 4: and thirty first, you know, for Ty Simpson on draft

450
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Speaker 4: they or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 3: No, thanks, I don't think that's been a problem about.

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Speaker 2: No, So it's something we'll keep an eye on. It's

453
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Speaker 2: something we'll continue to discuss as we do get to

454
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Speaker 2: that time of year where a lot of these new

455
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Speaker 2: rules and proposals will be brought to the forefront of conversation,

456
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Speaker 2: particularly with the owners meetings just around the corner here.

457
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 2: With that, I've got a couple rule changes that I

458
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Speaker 2: want to run past you in the next second. That

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Speaker 2: sound do you like that? Sure, I'll I'll state my

460
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 2: case and you can be the judge. I'm int'll do

461
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Speaker 2: that when we return. Keep those tweets rolling in for

462
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Speaker 2: hour number two. Plenty to get to today as we

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Speaker 2: roll along, just getting started here on the drive Wes Shuuler,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

466
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Speaker 5: and while you might not know who your team is

467
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Speaker 5: drafting this year, you do know your watch parties. Number

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Speaker 5: One pick bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 5: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the

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Speaker 5: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal.

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: this Thursday, some exciting news, Matt Okay, this time tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Steelers Hall of Famer, four time Super Bowl champion, Penn

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Speaker 2: State legend, current part of the Penn State broadcast team,

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Speaker 2: color commenter Jack Ham is going to join the program.

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Speaker 4: It's a big one, man, pretty big fish.

483
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Speaker 3: It's a big one, pretty big fish.

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Speaker 2: So we're excited, excited to talk to Jack. Obviously, we

485
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Speaker 2: want to pick his brain on a lot of those

486
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Speaker 2: Penn State names that we've discussed. Yeah, that's a good idea,

487
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 2: and just just catch up with a Steelers legend here

488
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: on this show. So tomorrow we will have Jack Ham.

489
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Speaker 2: We're pretty excited about that and that'll be a lot

490
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Speaker 2: of fun and we'll get his thoughts on.

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Speaker 4: Probably two or three years ago, I put together my

492
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Speaker 4: top ten or twenty Steeler players of all time, and

493
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: he was remarkably high, leave it there, like higher than anywhere,

494
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 4: Like really that high for him. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you when you when you talk to

496
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Speaker 2: the Bob Labrioles of the world.

497
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, my dad's generation.

498
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Speaker 2: It's almost like similar to you know, people in between

499
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Speaker 2: our age group, Matt, like in their thirties, forties, fifties,

500
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Speaker 2: and the way they talk about Aaron Smith and how

501
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Speaker 2: underrated he was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get some of that with jack Ham too,

504
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: where it's like the people who were you know, really

505
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: watching the games at that point in tune to how Lambert.

506
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Speaker 4: Next to him was vampire right right right right right here.

507
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: I mean just Lambert's persona. Not that I'm taking away

508
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: from him, it's just he's six' four with you, know

509
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: the crazy teeth and made all of, that you, know on.

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Speaker 3: The cover Of Sports illustrated right, right just look. Different,

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Speaker 3: Yes so we'll be.

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Speaker 2: Excited we'll be excited to stock talk to Us steelers

513
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Speaker 2: Legend jackham. Tomorrow that'll be a lot of. Fun, hope

514
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Speaker 2: hope everybody will enjoy that, One. Matt some rule change

515
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: things THAT i want to run by you as it

516
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Speaker 2: is that time of, year talk about talk about some

517
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: that have been proposed and this to, me like yesterday

518
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: we discussed why can't the roster just be fifty three active.

519
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Speaker 3: Players on game?

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Speaker 2: DAY i don't know if that's necessarily a rule. Change

521
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: that's more of kind of like an operational.

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Speaker 3: Type.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah i'm talking specific rules within the white.

524
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Speaker 3: Lines, okay is this a catch or? Not or things like.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah like if we were having this conversation about college, football,

528
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Speaker 2: LIKE i can't SAY.

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to the way conferences were

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Speaker 3: twenty years. Ago that's not a rule change that's going to.

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Speaker 3: Happen that's an Operational SO i tried to keep this

532
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Speaker 3: to the infrastructure of the, league, yes or the. Sport

533
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Speaker 3: and the biggest.

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Speaker 2: One So i've got three THAT i want to run

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Speaker 2: past you, here and the biggest one IS i kind

536
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Speaker 2: of sit on the fence with, this But i'm starting

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Speaker 2: to think as the years roll, BY i had this

538
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Speaker 2: first idea a couple of years, ago and it's gotten

539
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: a little bit stronger in my, mind AND i would

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Speaker 2: like to run this past. You changing the parameters the

541
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Speaker 2: punishment of pass.

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Speaker 3: Interference.

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Speaker 4: YEAH i go back and forth on this, too.

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Speaker 2: And making it like the college football route where it's

545
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Speaker 2: a fifteen yard.

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Speaker 3: Penalty.

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Speaker 4: Regardless let me stop you and ask you one, question

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Speaker 4: because you. Asked you watch way more college football than.

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Speaker 4: Me how often in college football is a corner clearly

550
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: beaten over the. Top that's probably gonna be a touchdown

551
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Speaker 4: that he just drags him down knowing it's fifteen instead of.

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Speaker 3: Not as often as you would, think.

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Speaker 4: Right because he's beaten so bad he can't get exactly.

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Speaker 2: Right not as often as you would. Think but you

555
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: definitely do see it, sometimes AND i think big trouble,

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Speaker 2: Here AND i think you particularly see it in late game, situations,

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Speaker 2: okay where the defensive coordinators, like, hey, worsto no matter,

558
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Speaker 2: what if someone gets behind, you grab them and pull them.

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Speaker 2: Down who, cares there's forty seconds left on the. Clock

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Speaker 2: we'll give them fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Yards the only thing that can't happen is getting beat

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Speaker 4: at the.

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Speaker 3: Top, Okay, yeah do see, it but not as much

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Speaker 3: as you would.

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Speaker 2: Think, okay now that would get to be my one

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Speaker 2: worry is that you get to the last thirty seconds

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Speaker 2: of AN nfl game and.

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Speaker 4: Right you just drag me Take, marshall.

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Speaker 3: Throw thems and throw them on the. Ground, Right BUT i.

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Speaker 2: Do but then WHEN i think, THAT i think it

571
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: works the opposite way where we see so often quarterback

572
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: sees one guy down the field in single coverage and

573
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Speaker 2: just chucks it up and there's a monoicum of contact

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00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: and it's a sixty yard. Penalty so this ONE i

575
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: really struggle. With But i'm more and more year by

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Speaker 2: Year i'm leaning towards making a fifteen yard penalty instead

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Speaker 2: of a spot. Foul it's the one THING i think

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Speaker 2: college should ADOPT nfl. RULES i think it should have

579
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Speaker 2: to be two feet for a catch in, college not.

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Speaker 2: ONE i don't know if you know, this but in college,

581
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Speaker 2: football if your knee touches your, down you're not down by,

582
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Speaker 2: Contact LIKE i think that's a. Crock like if you

583
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: dive and catch a ball and nobody touches, you you

584
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Speaker 2: should be able to get back. Up but this is

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Speaker 2: the one thing WHERE i think THE nfl should take

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Speaker 2: the college football. Rule and Again i'm not adamant pounding

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Speaker 2: the table for, this BUT i just wanted to run

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Speaker 2: it by you because every year of my LIFE i

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Speaker 2: think a little bit MORE.

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Speaker 3: I don't need.

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Speaker 2: This there's there's a tiny little bit of contact downfield

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00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: and it becomes a sixty yard gain for the.

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Speaker 3: Offense like that drives me.

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Speaker 4: Nuts so any of these rule, CHANGES i think you

595
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 4: have to first look through the parameter that the league

596
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: is gonna want more points and is gonna want to

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Speaker 4: help the. Offense and it's a very good point because

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Speaker 4: points sell. Fantasy people like the bat overs AND i

599
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: always go back to, this AND i can't stress it.

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Speaker 4: ENOUGH d lines are better THAN o, lines so we

601
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 4: need to give the. Advantages we can't just have The

602
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: Joe green and these guys just reckon shop that nobody

603
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: could block every, play you, Know so we got to

604
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: give them these guys some. Advantages, Now i'm sure people

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00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 4: around here take this way too, far but like The

606
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 4: flacco Led ravens were so good at getting the deep.

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00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: Defensive that's one of the ultimate. Examples Like perryman was

608
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 4: like the fast guy and then just chuck it for

609
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: him and something good will. Happen maybe it's, incomplete but

610
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: there's a good chance we're gonna get a big gain,

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00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: here whether he catches it or. Not, now we probably

612
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 4: blame them more more than we, should and they probably

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00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 4: weren't the Only steelers never did such a thing like.

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Speaker 4: That i'm kind of with, you but is there a

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Speaker 4: and any rule, Changes i'm gonna try to not put

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Speaker 4: more on the refs.

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Speaker 3: Plate always always a great point.

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Speaker 4: Too because they have too much, already and the.

619
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: Game gets faster and crazier every, year and.

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Speaker 4: They might best, right but this would put more on

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Speaker 4: the refs. Plate could you make it like hockey where

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00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: there's major? Minor, yeah there's a there's a miner there

623
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Speaker 4: how roughing the.

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Speaker 3: Kicker it used to be running into the kicker versus

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Speaker 3: roughing the.

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Speaker 4: Kicker, yeah there's a. Miner there's a double, miner there's a.

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Speaker 4: Major like you clearly dragged him.

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Speaker 3: DOWN i wouldn't. SPOT i don't hate.

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Speaker 4: THAT i, yeah, Right and that's a total judgment.

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Speaker 3: Call that does put a little more onus on the.

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Speaker 2: Reft BUT i also think in this capacity there'd be

632
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Speaker 2: a Clear, okay that's two guys fighting for the ball

633
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: downfield and the defender made contact a millisecond.

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00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: Early that's a. First this guy gets beatn he just

635
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: grabs the shoulder of the hand of the wide receiver

636
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: and pulls them.

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Speaker 4: Back i'm use on a. Breakaway so you drag them,

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: down you know? Right you know so that should be

639
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: a penalty. Shot, yes, yeah, right you know?

640
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: WHAT i like that?

641
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: Idea, yeah like a like a common foul versus a

642
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: flagrant foul in THE. Nba, yeah if you just bump

643
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: somebody going up for a, rebound it's a.

644
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: Foul but if they've got a clear path to the

645
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: hoop and.

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00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah clearly trying to hack, them, Right, yeah then it's

647
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: a you, know then it then it becomes a it's a,

648
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: worse it's a worseever it's a flagrant foul or.

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Speaker 3: WHATEVER A i don't want too much to.

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Speaker 4: ASK i don't think so either not to mention you

651
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: still have replaying you somebody in your ear to help

652
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: you'd be like you were a little hard on that.

653
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: One just call it fifteen or you, know that'd be

654
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: cool with. Again but that's a lot to ask for the,

655
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 4: rest BUT i think they could handle.

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00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: It it is all. Right speaking of, reviews here's Here's

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00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: wes's proposal number. Two, MATT i know you've obviously been

658
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: to a lot of football. Games you watch more than you.

659
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: Attend oh, yeah yeah, Yeah but are you familiar with

660
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: AND i know anyone who's been to a you, know

661
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: college football OR nfl. Game when it goes to commercial,

662
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: break there's the guy all decked out in red red,

663
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: ja a red. Hat he's got the big digital sign

664
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: with like the two and a half minutes so that everybody.

665
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Is super important for you guys on the, broadcast.

666
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: The broadcast side of, Things and, hey if you're somebody like,

667
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: me BECAUSE i go to the college games and you

668
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: see that guy walk out in three minutes and you're, like,

669
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: OH i can go grab another.

670
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: Beer behind, me back to my.

671
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Seat so for anybody who's unfamiliar with What i'm. Saying at,

672
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: football college, FOOTBALL, nfl when it goes to commercial, break

673
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: there's a guy who works for the Networks fox OR

674
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: cbs OR espn or whoever it, is who comes out

675
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: on the field with a big digital clock two and

676
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: a half, minutes three, minutes however long the break is all.

677
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: Red he's easy to spot so that both, teams all

678
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: the broadcast, people everything know how much time is left

679
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: in the commercial. Break when there is a, review a video,

680
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: review whether it's initiated from the, refs whether it's a

681
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: challenge flag thrown By mike, McCarthy i want that same.

682
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: Red and the referee comes out and he Goes pittsburgh

683
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: is challenging the rule on the or time out for

684
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: an officials review to see if the ball crossed the,

685
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: plane and he does the you, know waves his hands

686
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: and runs over.

687
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: To the video. Monitor, Yeah.

688
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah from that, STANDPOINT i want that red guy to

689
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: come out with sixty seconds on.

690
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: The clock and count, down and as soon.

691
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: As that sixty seconds is, over the ref has to

692
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: come out of the booth and make a. Decision if,

693
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: not it.

694
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: Stands if, not it.

695
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Stands you get sixty seconds to look at that. Video

696
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: if you can't make a decision in sixty, seconds the

697
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: rule on the field stands and we play.

698
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: ON i had no problem with. That either you're gonna

699
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: say the, opposite like he was gonna come out and start,

700
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: one two and climb up so we, know like.

701
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: We know how long it's come.

702
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: On, guys what are you doing?

703
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Right that's Embarrass it looks over and it's four and

704
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: a half, minutes an old, man we've really been dragging.

705
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: This but, NO i want that same guy to come

706
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: out sixty seconds, bang and you have sixty seconds to

707
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: watch the tape of make a, decision and then after

708
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: that the video shuts off and you either the call's

709
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: overturned or the ruling on the field.

710
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: STANDS i have a problem with. EITHER i guess we

711
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: could fight if it should be sixty or ninety or

712
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: thirty or, Whatever BUT i thought sixty was. Common that

713
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 4: seems about. Right they might be, like we don't get

714
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 4: any of them in, sixty but whatever the number, IS

715
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: i don't. Care, sure, YEAH i need a different guy

716
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: dressed in red, though like you're asking that. Guy you

717
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: gotta go back to school for, That.

718
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: Matt the revenues are going.

719
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: Up we can pay we can pay these refs and

720
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: these game officials a little bit more, money all, right

721
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: to make it worth their.

722
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: While but that's one that just AND i think every sport.

723
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: Fans, Like i'm not qualified for, that AND i go

724
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: back to grad.

725
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: School for there's not there's.

726
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: NOT i know there's a small portion of sports fans who,

727
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: say scrap video review, altogether just go.

728
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: BY i think that's.

729
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: NUTS i went to, calls, Right BUT i think the

730
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: vast majority of sports fans all agree to that the

731
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: video review has gone a little too, far that it

732
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: takes a little too, long that it clunks up the

733
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: game a little too.

734
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: Often, yeah sixty, seconds, bang that's.

735
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: IT i don't care about clunking up the, game BUT

736
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: i don't look at the game like everybody else does

737
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: with an iron and a bunch of wings and you

738
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: know that kind of. Stuff you know WHAT i. MEAN

739
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: i think the general public would like it better with

740
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: the way you said.

741
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: It.

742
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah and.

743
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: Then the last, One, Matt and Maybe i'm kind of

744
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: doing AS i, say not AS i, do BECAUSE i

745
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: GUESS i could argue that this is more of an

746
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: operational thing than a pure rule. Change and this also

747
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: goes against your correct mantra of when the league does this,

748
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: stuff it's all in favor of offense and electricity and more.

749
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: Points, YEAH i.

750
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Am so tired of living in this world where teams

751
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: get to the fifty yard line and suddenly they're in scoring.

752
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: Position and, hey.

753
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: The steelers are benefiting from this, too with a really

754
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: gosh darn good kicker Named.

755
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 3: Chris boswall that you might have heard.

756
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 4: Of you THINKS i think kicking is too?

757
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: Easy, YEAH i kin way to move the goalpost each

758
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: side in one, yard, fine make the goal post slightly,

759
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: smaller one on each. Side AND i realized that this

760
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: would have a ripple effect for college football and high

761
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: school football and all these things around the. World but

762
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: kicking is, Guys, now drill they should. Change they drill

763
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: sixty yarders like their Autumn and that's. True they don't

764
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: have to. Change they play with different sized footballs and

765
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: everything too, different dynamic kickoffs and all that.

766
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: STUFF i, say the.

767
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: Goal, post they can't. Be how many companies manufacture goalposts can't?

768
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: Be Can't they would love this.

769
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: Role they're, like we get to make so many, more

770
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: you get.

771
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: To tell, right.

772
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: Big the industry of big goalposts loves this. Idea BUT i.

773
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: Don't think high school or college should, change because the

774
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: LITTLE i know about high, school they can't even find

775
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: kickers that can write.

776
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: Anything and college kickers you see guys missing.

777
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: And they're pretty bad forty yarders all the. Time but

778
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: the thirty best ones in the world are unbelievable. Now

779
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 4: and the kicking balls, help and all these other things. Help, which,

780
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: Hey i'm fine using the kicking. Balls i'm fine with. That,

781
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: again bring it, in bring it in a. LITTLE i don't,

782
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: AGAIN i don't care what the number.

783
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: IS a yard might be, like, wow that's it's just

784
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: it's become way too. Easy, yeah it, is just there

785
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: are so many kickers in the, league and, hey we've

786
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: benefited here In. Pittsburgh oh, YEAH i don't want to

787
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: seem but like That.

788
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: Gigs preseason game when the dude comes out from seventy or,

789
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: whatever and it's like that's too. Easy, yeah just shouldn't always.

790
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: Them from sixty four and, yeah Camp, jack really yeah

791
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: yeah you. Should you should need to try have a

792
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: little bit further into enemy territory to ben or midfield,

793
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: here and all of a, sudden now we're in like.

794
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: That just to me is it's too. Easy kickers have

795
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: become it's a testament to the, kickers but they become

796
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: way too.

797
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: Good they've become way too. Good, Yes AND i don't,

798
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: KNOW i wouldn't object to that, either something along those. Lines, yes, yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

799
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Those were my those were my three. Ones offensive pass

800
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: interference or make it like review.

801
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: Times there's like a pendulum swinging in front of.

802
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: It now keep it the same size if you want

803
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: my real crazy, idea it's.

804
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: Just it's a pinwheel buzzing through.

805
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: It eliminate, kick eliminate, kicking field goal kicking all. Together

806
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: there's only there's only kickoffs and. Punts you got to

807
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: go for two every, Time, yeah go for go for

808
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: it on fourth or but that's a bridge too far in.

809
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: Football that's not going to happen exactly.

810
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: Right BUT i just it's way too.

811
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: Easy, now the kicking is way too, easy AND i

812
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: just don't think that.

813
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: Should be the. Case in. RANGE i don't think it

814
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: should be that easy to get three, points.

815
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: Which is kind of what they. Want but it also

816
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: correlates with the kickoff rules getting. Tweaked starting positions five

817
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: yards better than we plos two or three years. Ago

818
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: one first, down.

819
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: More opportunity for changes at the end of the. Game, yeah, yeah.

820
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: Now i'm putting up Now i'm in field goal, range you,

821
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: know right. NOW i think they like that. Part but

822
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: people are also going for field goals less and go for.

823
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: Fours they're going fourth downd. More that's, true you, know

824
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 4: but it is TOO i do think it's too easy

825
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: and it should be.

826
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Earned a little, more a little bit, more just a

827
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: little bit. More so let us know how you feel about.

828
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: Those if you've got any others that you want to

829
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: throw into the, mix you know where to get at

830
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: us on the X.

831
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: Twitter we'll wrap up this.

832
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: CONVERSATION i want to update The steelers salary cap situation

833
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: with you Two.

834
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: Mac we've got Some i'm on top of, that.

835
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: Some good kind of clarity on cap stuff that has

836
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: come out in the last day or. Two now that

837
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: the dust is settled mostly on free, agency we'll do

838
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: that to close down the first. Hour when we Return West.

839
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: Shooler Matt, Williamson it's The Drive Steelers Nation radio on

840
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: The Steelers Audio.

841
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: Network what's, UP nfl.

842
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 5: Fans THE Nfl draft is finally, here and while you

843
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 5: might not know who you're team is drafting this, year

844
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: you do know your watch party's number one. Pick Bud,

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00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,960
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00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 5: Talking guess that's why it's been the group's go to

847
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: draft beer season after. Season be sure to order around

848
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: for the table before your team's on the. Clock Bud,

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00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,120
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00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,440
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Speaker 1: Missouri your tunes About drive on your twenty four to

852
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: seven home of The black And. Goal Steelers Nation.

853
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: Radio wrapping up the first hour of The drive here

854
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: on This, Thursday, Matt we've got some new clarity on

855
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: salary cap situations across THE. Nfl Here Albert breer putting

856
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: out some good information on. AGAIN i think the term

857
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: THAT i used in the last segment was the dust

858
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: has settled mostly. On, yeah there's still going to be additional.

859
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Signings there's still going to be some POTENTIAL A. J

860
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: brown TYPE b trade.

861
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: Moves CAN i get waddle under my cap or? Whatever?

862
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Yes, right, yeah, yeah but dust mostly, Settled AND i

863
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: think it's kind of a good time to recalibrate where

864
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: The steelers, are where the teams across THE nfl.

865
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: Are most of the contracts have gone, through there's always

866
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: a gray area there for a couple of, Days like you,

867
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: know sometimes contracts are reported, differently.

868
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: Right, right, Right so let's talk about teams with the

869
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: most cap space still as we stand here.

870
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: Today, first is that cool with you because this is

871
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: the list of.

872
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: Somebodys have a hard time just spending that.

873
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Much, Yes And i've got the list of the teams

874
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: up against the cap the.

875
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: Most but The, Steelers i'd.

876
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 4: Like to hear like the top six or seven in

877
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: the bottom six or, seven, well The.

878
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Steelers The steelers have the tenth, most so they kind

879
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: of round, out they kind of round.

880
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: Out the top.

881
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Ten number one is still The titans with about sixty

882
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: three million dollars of.

883
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: Space now a couple, notes this can roll over to

884
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: next year half to it. Doesn't it's not like your

885
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: sick days at work that insues a new year, hits

886
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 4: you'll lose, them so you take a vacation at the.

887
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: End they do roll. Over steeler related all these teams

888
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 4: also have to sign all their draft.

889
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: Picks that's a big part of it.

890
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: Too you need probably eleven twelve thirteen million is for your.

891
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: Draft that number. Is but if you, first it's different

892
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: than if you don't have a.

893
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: First you know that kind of stuff, Too, Yeah jets sort,

894
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: of chief, Sir, yes, Yeah.

895
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: And obviously this is really noteworthy for this, team maybe

896
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: more than any in the. League you still have signed a.

897
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: QUARTERBACK i, ASSUME i assume there will be a move

898
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position that is going to cost. Money,

899
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: now all these, teams including The, steelers can also Extend

900
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: Porter benton whoever and maybe free a little up this,

901
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: year or The cam move freed up a little, bit

902
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: OR i keep bringing Up harrison he could get cut

903
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: still maybe or you, KNOW i don't. Know so there

904
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: are a lot of levers to, pull. Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah.

905
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: Totally and we'll talk about that more specifically when we

906
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: get to The steelers. Number So titans at the at the,

907
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: Forefront chargers in second about ten million behind The titans

908
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: fifty four million in space The.

909
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 3: Commanders this one surprised me with all the business they've.

910
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: Done but, again, though when you're not paying a quarterback

911
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: big money such a part of this, equation.

912
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: One of the reasons you want to draft on the

913
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: first round next. Year you go five years with the

914
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: cost controlled.

915
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Start and if you're The titans and you're The commanders

916
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: right now and you think you have your guy And

917
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: ward And daniels, like let's load up right, now.

918
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: And they're the first and second.

919
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: Picks, yeah, Right commanders about fifty two million in, space,

920
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: fourth The cardinals about forty.

921
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: Two million in. Space and they didn't do.

922
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: Much and you, know if they would have Paid Malik,

923
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 2: willis for, example that number would would be much. Lower

924
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: forty Nine ers checking at fifth with about forty million in,

925
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: space The eagles at sixth with about thirty eight million

926
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: dollars in. Space, now if they end up trading one

927
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: of those big names and take on some dead cap,

928
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: money that could change change that. Equation jets at seven

929
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: at thirty eight ish, million and then you've got the

930
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: two teams that were just in The Super Bowl seahawks

931
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: thirty eight, Million patriots thirty seven, million and then The

932
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh steelers at tenth with about twenty nine.

933
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: Million, okay so this small, NUGGET i, Mean i'm not

934
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: sure What seattle's saving theirs. For why not just bring

935
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: Back Kenneth.

936
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: Walker Kenneth.

937
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: Walker, YEAH i mean if that would have been.

938
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: Well maybe if you think about it, too because remember

939
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: the draft picks still, fact they're into, this so maybe

940
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: if they're, thinking we really only have twenty some million,

941
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: ISH i guess that would have been enough to Sign Kenneth.

942
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: WALKER i, MEAN i know that they're allocating money For

943
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: smith And jigba And witherspoon.

944
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: And extensions and draft, picks and.

945
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: There's also things that we don't. Know there's bonuses like

946
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: crazy all through these contracts, Too like mahomes do a

947
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: ten million dollar. Bonus, Well i'm not going to cut,

948
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: them you, know so that he's getting. It it just

949
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: hasn't hit the cap yet some of those type of. Things,

950
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: okay The steelers are in great, shape is the bottom.

951
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: And it's his great shape as the bottom, line and

952
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: a piggybag off of, That Derek bell who works For.

953
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: Steelers, now, yeah he does. Work he does good.

954
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: WORK i actually i've MET i met him a few

955
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: years ago at training, camp and THEN i talked to

956
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: him briefly at The combine a few weeks. Ago we

957
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: should have him on the show at some. Point he,

958
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: Does i'd like.

959
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 4: To i've never met.

960
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Him he does really good deep dives like he loves

961
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: analyzing the quarterbacks out of the, Draft so he'd be

962
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: a fun one to have on to talk About nuss

963
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: And Carson beck and some of those. Guys derek basically

964
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: broke down that if you look at That steeler's, number

965
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: estimate that about fifteen million ish For Aaron.

966
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: RODGERS i think he was twelve. Hit he was like

967
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: twelve and a.

968
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Half last, Year so say you give him a little

969
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: bump for inflation, saves maybe it ends up being thirteen or,

970
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: fourteen but let's overestimate a little bit at.

971
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: FIFTEEN i think it's safe to, say just from negotiations last,

972
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: Year rogers isn't going to hold you over The, coles.

973
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 4: RIGHT i think he's doing okay in, life, Right.

974
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: That would so that, number with he's doing okay is

975
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: WHAT i think made the second most money of ANY

976
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: nfl player in.

977
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: History jeffardy and make it more than all of. IT

978
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: i think he's doing.

979
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: Fine so if you take that, number you, know say

980
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: about twenty eight twenty nine, million about half of that

981
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: goes To Aaron.

982
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 3: Rodgers let's say so say that.

983
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 4: One year deal guaranteed basically you're not gonna cut.

984
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: Him say that leaves you with fourteen to fifteen, million

985
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: and say you need eleven or twelve of that to

986
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: sign your draft.

987
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: Picks then all of a, sudden, okay you could.

988
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: Still where it gets a little, more to see.

989
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: Where it gets a little, tighter and maybe that's when

990
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: you Cut Malik. Harrison maybe that's.

991
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: What it seems like to keep like three or four

992
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: to go into the. Season, YES i need to grab

993
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: a linebacker.

994
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i need to grab, it or the trade deadline

995
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: we want to add right right, Right.

996
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: So that is you can kind of see how that.

997
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: Number, wow The steelers have twenty eight twenty nine million

998
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: dollars in cap, space but you Get Aaron rodgers, in

999
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: you get your rookies, in and that.

1000
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: Accounts for most of.

1001
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: It for most of, it you could.

1002
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: Still cut Am Malik harrison and say open up some.

1003
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: Money you could still restructure In alex High smith and

1004
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: open up some. Money there's wat's another one you can

1005
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: there's absolutely there's there's some.

1006
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: Things those extensions don't save you. Much Extending porter doesn't

1007
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: open much this year because he's not making much this.

1008
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: Year exactly. Right it's the big money guys that you

1009
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: that you do that.

1010
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 4: With, yeah the guys are making a lot, salary not.

1011
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: Bonus the guys are making a lot of salary this

1012
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: year are the ones you negotiate, with, correct so to

1013
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: pick from they, don't you, Know that's why you go

1014
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: to the bank Of mahomes Or allen or.

1015
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: Whatever when you have a big money. Quarterback that's the.

1016
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: Easiest that's the easiest one.

1017
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: Because you know he's going to be there.

1018
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: Too exactly exactly.

1019
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: Right so that's kind of The steelers picture and the

1020
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: big names in the, clubhouse and then Just matt briefly

1021
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: before we wrap up this first. Hour bottom of the,

1022
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: list The bears only have about two HUNDRED k and

1023
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: cap space.

1024
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 4: Currently like those teams have to do, something they.

1025
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: Have, to The bears have to do something because they

1026
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: still need to sign their draft. Picks forget about about

1027
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: adding anybody. Else you got to be able to sign

1028
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: your draft.

1029
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: PICKS i know we're up against, it but that's why

1030
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 4: it shocks me that The bills gave a second round

1031
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: pick for more as opposed to The pittman. Trade because

1032
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: The bears are any money they need to. Go, yeah yeah.

1033
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah panthers second with about four and a half, Million

1034
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: giants third from the bottom with about five and a half, Million,

1035
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: jags six, Million vikings a little over six, Million dolphins seven,

1036
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: Million bills about ten, million.

1037
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: So they could all. Survive they they may soon want

1038
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 4: to add anything, else, right they got enough to get them.

1039
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: Through and Then, Cowboys, Saints chiefs to bring up the

1040
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: bottom of the top of the bottom ten all with

1041
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: about thirteen.

1042
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: Million, okay you're not in bad. Shape for the one

1043
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: that's weird as The Bears.

1044
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: Bears the one that's very weird is The bears heaving

1045
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: next to, nothing and then The.

1046
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: Dolphins they're looking on the sofa.

1047
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: Cushion you consider The dolphins with all that dead cap,

1048
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: money they have not much.

1049
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 4: TODAY i DON'T i understand When miami has a lot

1050
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: of caps base a year from, That i'm sure they're.

1051
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: Killed they just taken it all in thein this year

1052
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 4: and then.

1053
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: Take and then reset a year from. Now that'll do

1054
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: it for our first hour of the. Show to kick

1055
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: off hour number, two comps for the twenty twenty SIX

1056
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: Nfl draft class of. Wide we'll get into that when we.

1057
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: Return also your tweets in our number Two Westchueler Matt.

1058
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: Williamson halfway home here on A. Thursday it's The Drive

1059
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation radio on The Steelers Audio.

1060
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: Network