1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Joe Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Give this part. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout, shome on, now. 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: Get a Patty, Jesus. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: Shout. 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: What was this? The five Heart Beats? 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: Eisley Brothers? Man, come on, who hit that note? 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: Patty? I'll try since the Temptations? How do you not 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: know the Isley Brothers? That's not this is the Platters? 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: The brothers. What's the lead singer's name? Some Isley? 18 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 19 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 3: South Ron Ron Easley? Oh man, that was close. 20 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: See I was fifty percent right. 21 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: That rounds up Somethingley? Yeah? 22 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, what's the Doobie brother's names? 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: Never heard of them? Yeah? 24 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Well that actually wouldn't be that would track. That was 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: like my Michael McDonald and his brother. 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I know Mike McDonald is who. 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the one that, uh was There is a 28 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: four year old Virgin where he's he's singing in the background. 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: He's working at the TV story. He's tired. 30 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael McDonald. 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 5: The one, the one dude was so tired of hair, 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald, if I hear shoop shoot whatever it is again, 33 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 5: Like forty year old versions are good, that's a good movie. 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: When he walks in to try to get that discount, 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: that is one of the all time kind oft scenes 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: in cinematic history. 37 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. Mike McDonald walked in. 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 5: No, no, I don't recall that. 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'll send you the scene. We'll just carry on, 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: carry on. And by the way, Jonas doesn't want any 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: part of that. He can't stand the Isley brothers. 42 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, not a fan. What hey to teach their own man? 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: Huh. Forty year Old Virgin is a great movie, bro, Yeah. 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 7: I just don't remember that much of it. It's pretty 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 7: full secific scenes. Yeah, it was fun. 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: And they was ripping the hair off of him. Oh yeah, 47 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: he was going crazy. Then you know the one time 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: when Kevin Hart comes in yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Kevin 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Hart came in. Yeah, I do remember that, and which, 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: by the way, shows how short Kevin Hard is. That's 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: a pretty He's a pretty small dude. He's pretty small, dude. 52 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 5: I'm talking like like fighting to be in five foot 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: small dude, gotta be like five one five two. 54 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: No, he's not. Kevin Hart's bigger than that. 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: No, I don't know that he is. He's pretty tiny. 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's pretty tiny. 57 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 5: It's a funny scene though, because that dude is is 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: is pretty funny. The guy that he had that exchange 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: with I forget. I don't know his name, but they've 60 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: probably given him three inches cold bathe in a coffee. 61 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that we can play the 62 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: scene because I think there's a few words that were used, 63 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: a few a few. 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: That we can't say. Well, you maybe can say. 65 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 8: That, yeah, I could say it, yeah right, and you 66 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 8: can't and you can't. 67 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: The time. 68 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: It's an all time scene though, I'm telling you. 69 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 5: Rommy Malco is that yeah, that's something like that. Yeah, 70 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: he's a that's a funny dude, bro like on the sneak. 71 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 5: Good actor dude, Yeah, yeah, you're a good actor. Good movie. 72 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 7: Well I do know this. Uh, it is two pros 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 7: and a cup of Joe. Here at Fox Sports rad 74 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 7: it's Lawari Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas. 75 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 6: Knox with you. You can find us. 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 7: I was always on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of 77 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 7: affiliates all across the countries. We take you live all 78 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 7: the way up until the end of this hour nine 79 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 7: am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. If you're listening on 80 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 7: the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. A lot of 81 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 7: conversation following the NFL combine. We opened up the show, uh, 82 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 7: starting with the situation. 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: I want to ask a question, but I interrupt. 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, no, I mean we started off, you know, 85 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 7: talking about and early on just the Adam Schefter, the 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 7: back and forth about whether or not, you know, forty 87 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 7: times were accurate when it came to Carnel Tate of 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 7: Ohio State at wide receivers some official times that were out. 89 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 7: Yet Schefter came out and pointed out that he had 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 7: ran differently and that there were better times and what reported. 91 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 7: We can argue and disagree about that. Here's what we 92 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 7: can't disagree with. It was the fastest combine in NFL history, 93 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 7: The average forty yard dash times were faster than ever 94 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 7: in seven of the eight position groups. Defensive backs average 95 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 7: four point four to four, wide receivers four point four 96 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 7: to four, running backs four point four to five, linebackers 97 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 7: four five five, tight ends at four six three, and 98 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 7: then even the offensive lineman averaged five point one fastest ever. 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 7: So we got a bunch of track athletes out there, 100 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 7: all right? Can I ask this question? When when you 101 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 7: went to the combine, Q, do you do you recall 102 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 7: how you did the I mean, I know you didn't compete, 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 7: but do you recall how the rules were for vertical jumps? Like? 104 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't I know what you're talking about, though, because 105 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: I know there's some different ways guys try to kind 106 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: of scheme up. 107 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: With the yeah, and there's little things like even with 108 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: the forty, I was like in my mind like like 109 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 5: they're not are they setting as Like I know they 110 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 5: would make you set you were not at like like 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 5: anything remotely close to a rolling start. They would flag you, 112 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 5: like they would make you start over and run it again. 113 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: I feel like the starts are a little different and 114 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: in the forty, maybe I could be embellishing, I could 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: be off. But I do think I recall, and I 116 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: was asking Plexico about this, when you do the when 117 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 5: you did the vertical, when we were coming out, your 118 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: heels had to be on the ground. You had to 119 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 5: jump from a flat footed position. I do believe that 120 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: because they were basing. They were basing your forty off 121 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 5: of your reach and you're in all of your height, 122 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: and just like when you took your height, you had 123 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: to keep like you had to put your heels. Your 124 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: heels have to be like firmly on the ground. Guys 125 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: would try to lift their heels up, but your hills 126 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: had to be on the ground. They raise your arm up, 127 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: they take your height, but you also were measuring the 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: reach so that you could get an accurate, an accurate 129 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 5: readout of the vertical. I was watching the way these 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 5: kids were or these guys were doing their verticals. They 131 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 5: were allowed to lift their heels off the ground. Just 132 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: an interesting observation. But it's like they're they're talking about 133 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: numbers that are numbers that have never been posted before, 134 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: and this, that and the other, And I was wondering, 135 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 5: like I know they say bigger, stronger, faster, but I 136 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: don't necessarily subscribe to that. I really don't. I think 137 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: that guys have always been big. I think guys have 138 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: always been fast. I mean you look at guys like 139 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: Jim Brown or Bo Jackson, like guys have always been 140 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: big and fast, like Lawrence Taylor, hell myself, guys have always. 141 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: Been super athletic. So be ten dollars. 142 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: That's ten dollars all. 143 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 5: I take that ten dollars. I mean I did run 144 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 5: it to six. 145 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: I did. 146 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 3: I did run it to I did run it ten 147 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: six hundred. 148 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 7: Flivar just had to be two fives while he was 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 7: talking what was happening. 150 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: But they, I do believe that they've now allowed the 151 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 5: guys to lift their heels off the ground to do 152 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: their vertical jump. 153 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: So this is one of the interesting things is like 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: if you go to the combine, usually you have a 155 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: really really good understanding of what the technique they're going 156 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: to force you to use all these training facilities, like 157 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: know that that's one of the things about if you 158 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: don't train at the com or you don't perform at 159 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: the combine and you do it at your pro day, 160 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: you don't know because it's someone who's assigned to it 161 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: who's going to do it. 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: It's not always a strength coach, but the school. 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's actually like a scout or someone who's there 164 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: who's going to check and kind of verify it and. 165 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: Keep track of everything. 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: So that's the interesting thing about choosing to work out 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: the combine versus pro day and the differences between the 168 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: two could some of be the change in technique maybe. 169 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I also think, you know, as I've said 170 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: this about young quarterbacks that come into the league. You know, 171 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: when we first like when I was getting into college 172 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: and even getting in the NFL, there were fundamental things, 173 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: whether it was forwork, throwing motion, you know, grip, all 174 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: sorts of little things they were always trying to tweak 175 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: and work on because things weren't as advanced at a 176 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: younger level like they are today. Where guys come into 177 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, they come into the league, a lot of 178 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: guys are doing many of the mechanics that you know, 179 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: Tom House and a lot of the guys out there 180 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: in Cali three DQB that they've been you know, coaching 181 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: for for almost you know, a couple of decades. 182 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: Now all that stuff has become much more mainstream. 183 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: And because of that, now you see guys who when 184 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: they go into college, they go in the NFL, their 185 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: throwing motions are you know, pretty flawless for the most part. 186 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: There's not many guys you watch and go and they 187 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: need to clean some stuff up. I mean, Josh Allen's 188 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: one of the last ones I can really recall that 189 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: made a pretty dramatic transformation with the way he used 190 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: to throw wyoming towards how you know, compared to how 191 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: he throws now. So I would say it's somewhat that, Like, 192 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I think guys are more accustomed to testing, they're getting 193 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: better at testing. The training facilities they're going to are 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: preparing them better for these sorts of things. So I 195 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: think there's all sorts of elements like that. I do 196 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: think that today's athlete is a better athlete because they've 197 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: got more advanced and nutrition and science and technology around 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: how they perform. So I think there's elements of all 199 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: that that play a role in this. I'll go back 200 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: to this though. I also think it is kind of 201 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: a sign of, Hey, we want guys to come here, 202 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: because if they're getting there's if there's a notion that 203 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: this isn't a fast turf, guys are gonna run fast. 204 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna show up and run here, you know 205 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 206 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Like like that to me is one of the biggest 207 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: concerns that an agent and a player has, and probably 208 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: even more so the agent because the agent's hired to 209 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: give advice to the player as far as what is 210 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: best for them. And if they're if they think that 211 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: a guy can go run fast on that turf, they're 212 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell him to go to the go to the combine, 213 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: go run fast forty You don't have to run one again. 214 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: If they don't feel it's a fast turf, they'll say, 215 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: do it. Do it at your pro day. Wait until then, 216 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: you have more time to prepare, more time to recover 217 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: from the season, more time to work on that technique, 218 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: and then you'll be able to go perform well there. 219 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: I also like the I also like the LeVar showing 220 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 7: me the uh the vertical. Yeah, he is a different 221 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 7: yeah coming off the ground. 222 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 223 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 5: Also wows Garrett jumped a what mouth Garrett vertical was 224 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: like a forty two something like that. 225 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: That was a flat footed vertical. 226 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 5: Just so people are clear on this, if you want 227 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: to know, like, oh, like listen, take nothing away from 228 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 5: what Sonny Styles did, and he's a hooper too, so 229 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: you know they know how to jump. But Miles Garrett 230 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: doing what he did from a flat footed stance is 231 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 5: way altogether different than somebody boasting and bragging forty three 232 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 5: and forty four and forty five inch verticals when you're 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 5: able to take your heels off of the ground. I'm 234 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 5: just saying, I'm just it was just an interesting observation. 235 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: I just we just confirmed it. 236 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: Just now. 237 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 7: It's a it's a four day track and field event. 238 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 7: It doesn't feel like football. 239 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 5: I just if anybody who's paying attention just it's just 240 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: a small, small details that make big differences sometimes, you 241 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like I understand what you're saying. 242 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: But like Eli Stowers, I think believe jumped the highest 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: vertical event one of the combine. Okay, he won the 244 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: Texas City say hi, jump, No, jumped again, jumped seven foot, 245 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: which I don't I don't know. 246 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 4: High jumping at a lot. 247 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: It's a lot of it's a lot of technique, but yeah, 248 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: you gotta be you gotta have hops to be able 249 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 5: to go foot. 250 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: He jumped forty five and a half. Yeah, was his 251 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: vertical inch. 252 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if you look at it, there are 253 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 5: little things that you're able to do that rules wise, 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: it seems like they've relaxed a little bit on Like, 255 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 5: for instance, if if they gave basketball players the same stipulation, 256 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: so basketball players get to step into their vertical jump. 257 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: That's why when they sit there and say, oh, they've 258 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 5: they jumped a fifty inch vertical of fifty five inch vertical, Yeah, 259 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 5: it's because they are able to step into their their 260 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 5: vertical jump. Football they make you stand in place, but 261 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: now they're allowing you to take you if you can 262 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 5: load up by taking your heels off of the ground. 263 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: I do only need to take one of my heels 264 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 5: off because I'm a one footed jumper. So if I 265 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: was able to take one heel up and go down 266 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: before I go down to jump up, I can generate 267 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 5: more force and more. 268 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: Power to get higher. 269 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 5: If I'm forced to keep my feet flat on the 270 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 5: ground and I have to go, I have to take 271 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: off from flat footed, it's a much different you got it. 272 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 5: It's a much different negotiating of being able to explode, 273 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 5: and it matters, Like just so people know it does matter. 274 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 5: I just showed you if Patty of you, you get 275 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: a chance post Maus Garretts post MOUs Garrett's vertical and 276 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 5: post Sonny styles is vertical, and you'll clearly see Miles 277 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 5: Garrett has to take off flat footed, which makes it 278 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: way more phenomenal feat to jump into the forties from 279 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: flat footed stands versus being able to lift your heels 280 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 5: off the ground and go into the ground and come 281 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 5: off the ground. 282 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 6: So if you've got schefter. 283 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 7: Passing a message along from an agent of a prosper 284 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 7: back to fluff his forty yard time numbers, and you've 285 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 7: got giving them the ability to get some sort of 286 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 7: an added benefit in some of these events by lifting 287 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 7: your heels up off the ground like LeVar is saying. 288 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 7: And then you've got the other you know, yearly tradition 289 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 7: of if a player doesn't want to throw at the 290 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 7: combine and he gets shamed for it by somebody in 291 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 7: the media, then basically, yeah, this all just is a Hey, 292 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 7: if you play by our rules and you show up here, 293 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 7: we're gonna be kind to you. Okay, So then like, 294 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 7: what are we telling it's a TV event? Like it's 295 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 7: a TV show is what it's turned into. 296 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: So all right, it's always been a TV show. But 297 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: I keep trying to get you people to understand that 298 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: the relationship now between Disney or ESPN and the NFL 299 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: has changed, where like this is now part of you know, 300 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: ESPN's property, if you will, you know they've ESPN's taken 301 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: control of the NFL network, NFL Red Zone distribution rights, 302 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy operations, and other league media assets. So 303 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: this really integrates the NFL content like very deeply in 304 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: the ESPN platforms. 305 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying they're the same company. 306 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: They're not, but they're both invested together for the combine 307 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to be worthwhile to watch and follow and. 308 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: Be a part of. So they're invested in this. 309 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: It's why they need to make it appear and seem 310 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: as if you come to the combine, you're gonna be 311 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: able to perform. Well, you know, they don't want there 312 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: to be any hurdles that are involved. So whether it's 313 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the technique like LaVar's talking about in regards to the 314 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: vertical jump, or it's the technique on a forty or 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: the track or the official time, I mean, whatever the 316 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: case may be, it is important for ESPN now to 317 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: make sure like this is an event that hits like 318 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: they want their investment to off in the NFL. 319 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 5: And those numbers are higher than what they have been 320 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 5: in the past in terms of performance. 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: Would lend to maybe potentially in the data and. 322 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: Explain who's going to be suspect of it, right, like, 323 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: like who's suspect of it that there there's able to 324 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: be a checks and balances. It's not the agents like 325 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: they want this for. 326 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: Their players all all the agents want that for the players. 327 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not going to be the strength 328 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: coaches who are around it, because they were like, yeah, 329 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: my guy career, Look, I can put this guy up 330 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: as a guy that I trained. You know, they're not 331 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: going to blow the whistle in any of this. You know, 332 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: the teams don't care ultimately what anyone in the outside thinks. Anyway, 333 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: it was the scouts of the coaches so that they 334 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: don't give a crap. You know, half of them are 335 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: just there to show face. The other half are there 336 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: just to get some numbers, but really for interviews in 337 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: medical So at the end of the day, to Jonas's point, 338 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: this is a TV made for TV product. It's lost 339 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot of I think the seriousness that it's used 340 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: to have, and I don't think it grew to what 341 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: the NFL thought it was going to grow to where 342 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: they could have have this off season event, similar to 343 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: how they've grown the NFL Draft and make it into it, 344 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, made for TV event. It's been a little 345 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: bit of an I want to say, an eyesore, but 346 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: it hasn't. 347 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: Taken off like they thought. And so by by making 348 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: it something where you can get a lot. 349 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: Of guys to show up and now they're all doing flips, 350 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: that's that's sweet, that's cool, Like everyone can flip now. 351 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: I guess I don't know. 352 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: What what's that about many, I don't know. 353 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: It's there's a culture. 354 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: That's what's just so, it's so it has taken over. 355 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: It's taken over football. It's taken over football, like off 356 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 5: season seven on seven. That's that's seven on. 357 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: They look like a bunch of cheerleaders out there. But 358 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: when they start doing that, I'm like, this is this 359 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: is not football. It's that someone's gonna someone's eventually gonna 360 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: get hurt. But like they all look like they're cheerleaders. 361 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's that's seven on set. 362 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 5: Like they've created like like that stuff that they do 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 5: at the Pro where you go jump into the pits 364 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 5: of foam and stuff like that, and it's it's seven 365 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: on seven cultures, seven on seven flag football culture. That's 366 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: been It's it's a part of how the players do 367 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 5: things at these types of events. 368 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's what it is. 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: But again, it just it just makes me think about 370 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: like just even like pulling in that that small observation, 371 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: it just makes you wonder, to Q's point, what are 372 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 5: like It's one thing when the players are working to 373 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 5: figure out Mike Mamula Look Them Up is one of 374 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: the most well known guys that was a combined cheat code, 375 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 5: like like one of the beginner beginning founding fathers for 376 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: for runners of being able to manipulate how you test 377 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 5: and how you grade out at the combine. 378 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: Players are always. 379 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: Constantly trying trying to figure out how to manipulate little 380 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: things to be able to get bigger results at the combine. 381 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: That's a player's job to figure that out in its team. 382 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: But when you now start to wonder, okay, are they 383 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: relaxing things like is there a little bit of a 384 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: rolling start in these forties? Is there a little bit 385 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: of manipulating this and the verticals is are you allowed 386 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 5: to do X and the shuttle run? When you start 387 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: to look at some of the things that the league 388 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 5: is relaxing on and potentially allowing to take place, Now 389 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 5: you got to ask yourself the question of when you 390 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: start running the whole narrative of how much better? When 391 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 5: to me, trying to create the views, trying to create 392 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: the interest, and you're saying it because these athletes are 393 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 5: so much better. I find that to be a tabbit misleading. 394 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: I do. I find it'd be a tabbit misleading. 395 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 5: Because now the manipulation is not just athlete trying to 396 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: manipulate it to get better results, but it's the league 397 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 5: trying to manipulate it to help them get better results, 398 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 5: if you ask me, and that's that to me, that's 399 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 5: that's worth noting and looking at when we watch these 400 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: combines or listen to what it is that's taking place. 401 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: Maybe that's why guys want to do pro days versus 402 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: do do the combine because a more relaxed and more 403 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: a more relaxed environment on the rules and how it's 404 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 5: handled and stuff like that. I mean, that could be it. 405 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 7: It's kind of similar to when Major League Baseball expanded 406 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 7: the size of second base so that they would increase 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 7: the number of steals. And when people try and compare 408 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 7: you know, today's numbers versus numbers in the past, like 409 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 7: you have to take that into account. And that was 410 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 7: a clear manipulation of a product to get to make 411 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 7: it more interesting. 412 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: And it's it. 413 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 7: I get the approach, but I do think that needs 414 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 7: to be discussed that if they are if they are 415 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 7: doing things to manipulate the product to make it more 416 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 7: palpable to a viewer or a listener or whoever. I mean, 417 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 7: that's like, that has to be part of the conversation 418 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 7: like that has to be part of the discussion of 419 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 7: so does it stop here? 420 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: Like if they're doing it with this, then where does 421 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: it go? 422 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: That's okay, So that's the point I'm getting at, right, What, 423 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 5: like what else is going on? Like we're talking about 424 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 5: information leaks, you know, what's being reported? What do you 425 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 5: want the over our arcing narrative to be? What do 426 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: you want the storylines to be coming out of here? 427 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: Like how do you want this to be perceived? 428 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 7: Because look, the the NFL is real protective over the draft, 429 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 7: Like you can't. 430 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: You're protective over their brand. 431 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 7: If you if you release you know, a pick before 432 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 7: they can, then next thing, you know, you get you know, 433 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 7: guys have gotten in trouble, reporters have gotten in trouble, 434 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 7: and then on the outside. 435 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: Looking millions of dollars connected to that control. Think about it, 436 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 5: it's a ton of there's a ton at stake, and 437 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 5: when you promise a lot, you got to deliver a lot. 438 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 5: And that's what it comes down to. You got to 439 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 5: continue to keep the people who are keeping your lights 440 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 5: on and keeping your your pocketbook filled up. You got 441 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 5: to keep them happy. That's just how it works. There's 442 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: nothing wrong with that note shade and that, But as 443 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 5: as a pure fan, as a purist or somebody who 444 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 5: is a competitor or whatever it may be, I think 445 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 5: sometimes it's worth noting paying attention to what that is 446 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 5: that's being done that could ultimately alter what what your thoughts, 447 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: your opinions, and and how you're thinking of it, you know, 448 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: how how those things are potentially being manipulated. 449 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 7: It is two pros and a cup of shoe here 450 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio. 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Bro, I don't want to put you out there 482 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: to everybody. Brady, guys got problems, man, Man. It is 483 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: two pros and a cup of Joe. 484 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 7: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas 485 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 7: Knox with you coming up in about fifteen minutes from now, 486 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 7: we are going to have another edition of The Leftovers 487 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 7: that will be yours right here on Fox Sports Radio. 488 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: Was looking right at you, huh yeah. 489 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 6: Like turning a door knob. 490 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, who me, wait, hold on, you know 491 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't going dude, but hey, why not? 492 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: All right? 493 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: All right, so get it again? All right? 494 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: So Jimmy Garoppolo, Okay, that's a name we haven't said 495 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: in a while, Jeremy Fowler. 496 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: Does he still have that ranch pass for life? Garoppolo? Yeah? 497 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, does he still have it? 498 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: Was it the Bunny Ranch something like? I don't know, 499 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: it's one of them. 500 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 6: I don't know if that place is still around. 501 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: By the way, did you hear lamar Odim and his. 502 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 5: Conversation with Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady about about that. 503 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 6: No, he went into detail on the Bunny Range. 504 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 505 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was talking about how he wanted some cocaine 506 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 5: and wanted to take the cocaine, didn't have the cocaine. 507 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: Then he gets to the Bunny Ranch and then he 508 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 5: takes a drink and he is like, I woke up 509 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: three days later. That was all he remember was the drink, 510 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: not even that part. He just remembers the drink. So 511 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: whatever was in that drink he did up for three 512 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 5: days while three before he figured out. 513 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, anyway, he must have put up some numbers 514 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 7: in those three days. 515 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: Did Garoppolo ever visit the one of them ranches? One 516 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: of them deal? 517 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: I don't know, no idea. 518 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: We're wildly speculating. Because he went on a date with 519 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: an adult film star. 520 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: That's what it was. That's what God forbid. 521 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, all right, you know, I mean he 522 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: probably could have done it in. 523 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with like going on a date with 524 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 5: an adult film star. 525 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: Or a stripper or whatever. There's nothing wrong with that. 526 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 2: Why not? 527 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: Love doesn't see those. 528 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 7: Things strippers are people too, Yes, fire dinner. You know 529 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 7: she's she's entertained the masses for a long time. 530 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: Some would say that people have been paying for education 531 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: for a while. 532 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 5: Now she was working for it. She was working for it. Yeah, 533 00:27:54,760 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: you know alternatives that what happened to her? Where is she? 534 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 7: She always asked that she has some like crypto scam 535 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 7: or something like that, or was. 536 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: She locked up? 537 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Now she's laying low. There might have been a pumping dump. 538 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: Well yeah, take that however you want. But that's the 539 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: it's the phrase they used to. 540 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta stay low. Yeah, pumping dump it, 541 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 5: all of it. You gotta just telling. 542 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: You what was reported right by the way, had your 543 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 4: classic pumping dump? 544 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 6: By the way, how'd you get famous? 545 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 3: And you took your hand out your pocket? 546 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: Man? 547 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? 548 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 9: Man? 549 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: What your hand moving in your pocket like that? 550 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: Up? 551 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 7: Like you got you moving on that like George jeffresitional homeness? 552 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: Stop card shuffling. 553 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Man. 554 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 5: If you would have just saw what he was just doing, cute, 555 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: you would's this dude, that's disturbing behavior. 556 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Man, Stop in my pocket, Patty? What I what I 557 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: called Jonas turning the boak you can say it. 558 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: Uh he called him slappy. 559 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. Like, here's Jonas is a true professional. 560 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: You just can't take him seriously. That's that's the only 561 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: way I'd say it. 562 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 6: That's rude. 563 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: You know when it's coming to though, you know when 564 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: the bit is coming, you know when and he. 565 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: Gets a little squirrel. 566 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: He's got a. 567 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Set up for it. Yeah, there's a setup for it. 568 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: And he makes he does make a look like but 569 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: he don't grin. 570 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: No, it's that grin. Yeah, grin gets going. 571 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: Like I telegraphed these things. It's funny. 572 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: I said, you're a true professional. I prefaced it. 573 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 3: Good for you. 574 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, but you know, tell him the masses that you 575 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 7: can't take me seriously is kind of damages my credibility. 576 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: Every time you give out your betting advice, I would 577 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I would also co sign that that's what we cannot 578 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: take you. 579 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 6: Serious, buddy. 580 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: It's not like Quinn's wins this year. 581 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: If you how do we do for Nflang. 582 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: Manipulated it? 583 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: You could you could have gone straight up. You would 584 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: have gotten smoked. 585 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: You guys, you just type of people, love thee that 586 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 5: people are people. If it wasn't for you guys, this crap, 587 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: all right, this is ridiculous. So Jimmy garoppl Yeah, that's 588 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: back to the topic, all right, there is he's a. 589 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: Hot commodity though. Yeah. 590 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 7: So there's the uh so Mike Laflor who's the new 591 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 7: head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Jeremy Fowler BESPN reported 592 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 7: that Garoppolo's his guy and that there could be the 593 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 7: potential of that happening him ending up in Arizona with 594 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 7: the Cardinals, depending, you know, who knows what the hell 595 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 7: is gonna happen with Kyler Murray, but it does feel 596 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 7: like at least that's a name to watch, uh, Jimmy Garoppolo. 597 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 7: He's made a little over one hundred and fifty million 598 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 7: dollars in his NFL career and is going to potentially 599 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 7: make another stop with an NFC West team. 600 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: And it might be those Arizona Cardinals. 601 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: So what's wild about this is he hasn't started at 602 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: a game since twenty twenty three. 603 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: So if that gives you any idea of where. 604 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: The quarterback market is at, whether that be free agency 605 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: or not for veterans or even this draft class, Like 606 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: here's another example of that Mike Lafleur has taken over 607 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: as head coach for the Cardinals, views Garoppolo as his 608 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: guy to come in. And also there's reports that the 609 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: Rams would love to have Garoppolo back to be the 610 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: backup to Stafford this year. The Packers would love to 611 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: have him the backup Jordan Love. So he's going to 612 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: get another opportunity. But for a guy who hasn't started 613 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: in three years, and on top of that, I believe 614 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: he had what one start that season, It was like 615 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: a week eighteen Star Wars Seattle played. But okay, but 616 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: it's just it goes to show you where they're all at. 617 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: And I also think you know the importance of scheme fit, 618 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, for these coaches too, with who they're working with, 619 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: like they understand how how much that matters. So I 620 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I just I look at it and say, that might 621 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: be what Michael Lafleur or what the report looks like 622 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: for Arizona. It feels like that would be a setup 623 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: to get to a point where you could draft a quarterback. 624 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: In next year's draft. 625 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're trying to tank, but I'm just 626 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: saying it feels like that that would be the move 627 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: you'd be making that who's. 628 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 5: More likely to have a start next year or a 629 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 5: successful season in starting Deshaun Watson or Jimmy Garoppolo. 630 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: Oh man, wow, it's a good question. 631 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 5: One started their last game in twenty twenty three, the 632 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 5: other in twenty twenty four. 633 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: I would say, I pass, Oh no, you can't. 634 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 6: I'll take I'll take Watson knocks. 635 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Watson, you know, is going to be on 636 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: a team with a great defense, so he doesn't have 637 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: to do that much. I just I don't know what 638 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: to expect out of the offense. I mean, they just 639 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: traded for Howard at right tackle from the Texans. That 640 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: trade just is going to go through the start of 641 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: new league years, so they at least have a right 642 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: tackle now, Titus Howard. 643 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, gosh, I wish there was a 644 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: third option here, I think. 645 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly have a hard time believing Garoppolo 646 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: would would start and play. I think he's just there 647 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: and and any of their team's capacity to be a backup, 648 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: or even Arizona kind of. 649 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: Teach the offense. 650 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: So you'd have to lean and say Watson because the 651 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: money that you brought up earlier. It's too significant for 652 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: him not to get the first shot in Cleveland, Like 653 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: you're paying them, so why not just play them there again? 654 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: Here? Here's the trap. Here is the trap. 655 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: I that's what I'm saying. I don't even know if 656 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: Jimmy starts. 657 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 5: I don't, okay, considering if if all things given, both 658 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 5: of them were to start. I look at Cleveland's roster, 659 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 5: and you got guys liking Joeku who potentially could be 660 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: something special. 661 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 3: Still he does, he does well. 662 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: You got Judy who can be a prime time, top 663 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 5: tier weapon for. 664 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 3: You got an issue with drops though, Jarvis. 665 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 5: No, they got Junkins and Judkins in the backfield. Listen here, 666 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 5: there is a strong possibility that Deshaun Watson could come 667 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 5: back and be the player of the year. 668 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm calling it right here. 669 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 5: He could come back and be the comeback player of 670 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 5: the year with an emergence of having some success as 671 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. 672 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're mentioning peptides and all the things that athletes 673 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 7: are taking out and get them right. You know, if 674 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 7: you were Todd Monkin, just put like a neon foot 675 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 7: in the window and like, you know, have. 676 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: Like put it right over the locker room. 677 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like like make it. 678 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 3: The open sign, the red open sign field home. Let's 679 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: wrong with you? 680 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 9: Man? 681 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: Have a whole, Have a whole. Like nice display of 682 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: different towels, different sizes. 683 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 8: Hand towels, body towel, beach towe, Yeah, face towel, anything, 684 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 8: knee knee touh achilles, tendon towel. 685 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: They got a towel for everything. Got it? 686 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 7: By the way, you can towel off while you're listening 687 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 7: to the iHeartRadio app. 688 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 6: You can stream us wherever you happen to be. 689 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 7: Catch us in all of our Fox Sports Live twenty 690 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 7: four to seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. 691 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 7: To search Fox Sports Radio and the after streams live 692 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 7: all day every day, and be sure to select Fox 693 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 7: Sports Radio is one of your presets in the iHeart 694 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 7: apps will always pop up at the top of your screen. 695 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 7: All right, it's coming up next here. 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Before 705 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 7: we get to the leftover, as a reminder that if 706 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 7: you've missed any of today's show you want to catch 707 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 7: the podcast, just search two Pros wherever you get your podcasts. 708 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 7: Right after the show, Today's pot will be posted. Be 709 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 7: sure to follow it. Rated five stars. You can even 710 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 7: provide a review. 711 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: Again. 712 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 7: Just search two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll 713 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 7: find today's full show in a best of version posted 714 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 7: right after we get off the air. 715 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: Done to find out what's left Towns Incredible? Here's the 716 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: left over there byl Ray Roy. What do we got well? 717 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 11: I sent you guys a little screenshot into our messages. 718 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 11: Jokich might need a little aquine therapy after his viral 719 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 11: moment on the courch Friday night against the Thunder. 720 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter, lou. 721 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 11: Dort appeared to purposely stick out his leg, causing Jokic 722 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 11: to lose his temper. 723 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: He almost even. 724 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 3: Threw a punch. 725 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 11: It a little nerve racking to watch, but it is 726 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 11: a wild eyed stare that has turned into an instant 727 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 11: meme online. 728 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: What do you guys think of it? 729 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 6: A man Serbian assassin? No mess with that guy. 730 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 5: If his brother was near, Bob definitely doubled down on 731 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 5: messing witting. 732 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: I was it looked like the eyes of a man 733 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: who's put down a horse before. 734 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a little bit of a crazy stare. Yeah, 735 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 3: a little bit out there. I don't think. 736 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: I don't think he brought out the white sheet either 737 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: was up. 738 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: It was a dirty play and it was intentional, and 739 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: he was pissed. 740 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: He didn't trip Jokic, though he tripped one of his teammates. 741 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: I believe it was well they put he put his 742 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: hipp it in. 743 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was another teammate that that he 744 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 5: tried to hip him. Okay, tried to hip him? Yeah 745 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 5: what that means? Well, if you ask the iron Sheek, 746 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 5: I'm sure he can clear it up for everybody. 747 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 3: Just stole my camel clutch gem with the real Is 748 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: the iron sheet still around him? 749 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 10: No? 750 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 3: You got up out of here. Yeah. I mean the 751 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: real Iron. 752 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 5: Sheek is still here, but but the original Iron Sheek 753 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 5: is gone. 754 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 10: You know. 755 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 3: Did you like what I did that? Oh yeah, yeah, 756 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 3: yeah already still here. Yeah, he's still what else? 757 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: We got it right? 758 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: Ray? 759 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 11: A little league field has made headlines. 760 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: Now. 761 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 11: I know a lot of you have children in the 762 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 11: sports region. They put a sign on the fence, a 763 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 11: little league thing. It says, yeah like a field, you know, 764 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 11: with reminders for the parents. Number one, these are kids. 765 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 11: Number two, this is a game. Number three, coaches are volunteers. 766 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 11: Number four umpires are human. And number five, your child 767 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 11: is not being scouted. 768 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: By the Brewers today. 769 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: Thank you Glendale Little League, Glendale. 770 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: That's out here again. I told you earlier. It's a 771 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: sign of the time. 772 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: It was. 773 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 6: Glendale. Why would Glendale out here be talking. 774 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 5: About the Brewers? Listen, regardless, it's a sign of the times. Man, Like, 775 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 5: why not have irate parents? Why not be a parent 776 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 5: that thinks your kid is going to the league. Why 777 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 5: not be a parent that fights with another parent or 778 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 5: harasses the umps? 779 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: Why not? That's how it was growing up. 780 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 6: My son sees an openers Wednesday. 781 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: Are you going in lathered up? 782 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 4: Joe Cubs topeesh mode. 783 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: Yes all are you? 784 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 5: Are you going to steal the show by doing something crazy? 785 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: Gamble on it? Okay, oh wow, yeah, all right for sure. 786 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: Well there you go. 787 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: Why not knocks Loucks? 788 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 3: Well, how many hits he's going to have strikeouts? What 789 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: is it? 790 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: T ball? 791 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: No, I know, he's past ball. He's passed balls beneath him. 792 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,479 Speaker 1: He's throwing it. He's throwing out coach