1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: Single best idea in Apple podcasts and at that a 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: unique and wonderful single best idea. Ammy Joseph Cohen, heut 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Court at Golden Sachs so visible and on the up 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: and downs of the market, always Opinionata, particularly for the Bears, 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: in her belief in investing in it is. The chart 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: would go from the lower left to the upper right. 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: She is now adding massive value at the Columbia Business 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: School with her prodigious mathematic chops or CFA Institute work, 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: just really really wonderfully moving on from Golden Sachs too 11 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: at the Columbia Business School, she gave us a generous 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: amount of time today amby Joseph Cohen on a solid economy. 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: On a it seems to me that we do have 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: an economy right now that is extremely solid. We have 15 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: never seen in recent decades as strong a labor market 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: as we have now. Wages are rising at a rate 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: that now exceeds inflation, which is helpful particularly for middle 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: income and lower middle income families that have been having trouble. 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: We have enormously strong profits. Return on equity for the 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: S and P five hundred is at an extremely high level. 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: In fact, it might be the highest ever. So things 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: are in fact solid. What I worry about always is 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: is that already priced into the market number one and 24 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: number two, the policies that helped get us to this 25 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: are they potentially in danger. So this is obviously a 26 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: big political point in the United States right now. Policies 27 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: may be changing, and among the things that I worry about, 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: for example Apple, would be a movement towards more significant tariffs. 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Abby Joseph Cohen and we devote the single best idea 30 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: to a wide ranging discussion. Background. A couple of ten 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: days ago, two weeks ago, a small firm downtown named 32 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: Golben Sachs put out a really learned report saying hello, 33 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: usually when we apply technology and innovation to a system, 34 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: costs go down, cap BAX goes down, et cetera, et cetera. 35 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: And somehow with AI, we're going to apply AI and 36 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: it's going to be expensive. Costs could even go up. 37 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Big statement got a huge splash within the investment zeitgeist. 38 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: Abby Joseph Cohne has been thinking about this. Of course, 39 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: her tilt always is to find the value, and she'll 40 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: look at the four hundred and eighty three other stocks 41 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: out there. She was collegial about the team she knows 42 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: at her old Golben Sachs. But the view from Columbia 43 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Business School on AI is interesting. 44 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: What many have been hearing for the past six months 45 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: in particular, has been that companies that have been investing 46 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: heavily in AI are saying they're not yet seeing the return. 47 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Economists throughout the country are saying they're not really seeing 48 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: the productivity enhancements yet from AI. Now. It could be 49 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: that the analyses are looking at data in a premature stage. 50 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: Maybe things will improve, but clearly AI has been quite 51 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: expensive at this point. There was a race in many 52 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: industries to take on as much AI investment as possible, 53 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: and it might take a little while to digest. 54 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: And I should point out off camera she really emphasized 55 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: the mystery about the electricity, the power almost the thermodynamics 56 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: of what we do with our AI future. A week 57 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: ago it was another Friday, and then we have had 58 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: horrific politics, an assassination attempt, all that we saw in 59 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Milwaukee on our way to Chicago. Emory Hoarder today was 60 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: particularly brilliant on saying lose the speculation, lose a rumor 61 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: just one of the actual reportable facts we can report. 62 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: She was very very strong in that today there also 63 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: can be moments of lightness. Web Bush is a wonderful firm, 64 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: and of course they've got value, adds Michael Pactor, there 65 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: is iconic and technology analysis. For some reason in a 66 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: week moment, he hired Dan Ives, who's made a huge 67 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: splash in technology, not only with a by on Apple 68 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: and others, but also in his global wardrobe that he wears. 69 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: He inflicts that upon me as he can. We had 70 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Alicia reeson with us today. They're wonderful analyst on Netflix. 71 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: We talked about Netflix and you know, the streaming and 72 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: all that, and then we asked miss Reese the question 73 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: all of you wanted to know. 74 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: Well, we certainly do get a kick out of his outfits. 75 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he goes. He's very bright and colorful, and 76 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: it's and it's exciting, and he's just the nicest guy. 77 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: He's really really sweet and fun and lively. So he's 78 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: his personality is genuine. As you see him on TV. 79 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: I can assume the senior management of web Bush Securities 80 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: could care less if he's light and cheerful. They just 81 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: want him to get to buy the whole the cell, right. 82 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: Webbush really doing well this year with the technology lift, 83 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: at least up until the last ten days. At least 84 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: he's there. And of course Eric are we scheduled to 85 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: speak to Dan Ies sometime in the rest of the year. 86 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: We think so, okay, Dan, I's scheduled to be with us. 87 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Of course tech Earning season coming up. We're out on 88 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: YouTube and I just if you want to help on that, 89 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts on YouTube you get all of 90 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: our efforts, including Joe Matthew and Kaylie Line's Balance of Power, 91 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: and then of course on Apple car Play, Android Auto 92 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: as well and on Apple Podcasts Single Best Idea