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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation

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Speaker 2: highlight reels starting now now.

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Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien on the funniest stories from the Patriots coaching office.

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Speaker 2: Any fun Patriot coach stories. We had Mickey Di's in

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Speaker 2: here last night and he was telling us that h

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Speaker 2: coach Scar used to you know, what is it narcolepsia

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Speaker 2: where you fall asleep a little and then it wakes

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Speaker 2: up doing sit ups in the middle of the coaching staff. Well,

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Speaker 2: arrested with a sit co b but doing sick like

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Speaker 2: what we already heard ives you know, he falls asleep

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Speaker 2: a lot. What we got in the inside of fun stories?

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Speaker 2: Any competitions with the coaches, Oh.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of We got a lot of

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Speaker 4: funny stories with the coaches. We would have like so

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Speaker 4: our I can remember early on in your your guy CHATTYO.

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Speaker 4: He loves this story. So we would come back in

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Speaker 4: from practice in the regular season and we would basically

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Speaker 4: watch film with you guys, and then we would go

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Speaker 4: immediately when you got we were done with you guys,

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Speaker 4: we would go watch with Bill and we would watch

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Speaker 4: both sides. We'd watch everything special teams a whole thing.

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Speaker 4: So by the time that was done, it was probably

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Speaker 4: seven o'clock. So then we'd go eat dinner. So we'd

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Speaker 4: go in there and grab dinner, and then we'd come

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Speaker 4: back into the staff room and we'd listen to or

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Speaker 4: get ready for a third down or red area, whatever

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Speaker 4: day it was, right and Ernie, who's whose office? I

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Speaker 4: know you and Ernie are closed. I love Ernie too.

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Speaker 4: And he would go into his office, which was right

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Speaker 4: across from the staff room, and he would call his

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Speaker 4: wife and describe what he just had for dinner. So

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Speaker 4: every day, every night he would say, they had you know,

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Speaker 4: they had turkey, they had mashed potatoes, there was some broccoli,

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Speaker 4: and then we had apple pie a la mode for dessert,

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Speaker 4: you know. And so we would sit there every every

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Speaker 4: night and listen to Ernie talk about what he had

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Speaker 4: for dinner. It was clockwork, and we put that and

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Speaker 4: and and chatty. O started to call our offensive staff

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Speaker 4: room the general Store, so we put the general Store

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Speaker 4: up on the up on the door there. And now

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Speaker 4: we had a lot of there's a lot of good

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Speaker 4: coach stories. I mean I have many, so I can remember,

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Speaker 4: like the quarterback meetings, when I first got there. So

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Speaker 4: that was Tom Matt Castle, who you know is one

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Speaker 4: of the funniest human beings of all time, up there

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Speaker 4: with Matt Light who Rich Ornberger, like those three guys,

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Speaker 4: but you're funny. These are very funny, great.

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Speaker 5: Sense of humor.

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Speaker 4: And so we would meet, as you know, Bill would

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Speaker 4: come in later in the week meet with the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 4: and early in the week go over the dbs and

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Speaker 4: I think this was an earlier the week meeting, and

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Speaker 4: Bill would take his shoes off and build it. As

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Speaker 4: you know, Bill didn't wear socks, so and at that time,

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Speaker 4: before the new you know, offices were set up, the

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Speaker 4: quarterback meeting room was pretty small.

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Speaker 5: So Bill I would sit in the corner. I'd be

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Speaker 5: like stuffed in the corner.

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Speaker 4: Josh was in the back and Bill was running the clicker,

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Speaker 4: and Tom was over here, and Matt was there and

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Speaker 4: Matt Gutierrez remember those dude Kevin O'Connell, and so I

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Speaker 4: remember this one meeting and Matt Castle was.

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Speaker 5: Like what is that smell? Like what is that smell?

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Speaker 4: And like nobody says anything, and we're all like Matt Castle,

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Speaker 4: he was the very he was the very funny guy.

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Speaker 4: Who didn't care about making anyone uncomfortable, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like he loved making you and so he

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Speaker 4: was like, no, no, seriously, like what is that?

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Speaker 2: Bill?

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Speaker 1: Is that your feet?

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Speaker 4: And Bill, I'll never forget this. Bill looked at him

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Speaker 4: and goes Castle just.

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Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, I was like it

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Speaker 4: was like my first year there, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: cannot believe I'm witnessing this right now.

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Speaker 5: But as time went on, you.

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Speaker 4: Could believe it because you know, you spend you know,

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Speaker 4: the thing is, I tell everybody because people love my

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Speaker 4: patriot stories and I'm sure they love yours. But you

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Speaker 4: spend so much time together in profo, especially in New England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're always together.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's very it's rare, especially like pre twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: you know, before this new CBA you guys double days, doubled.

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Speaker 5: You know all those things, training camp, the seasons long.

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Speaker 4: You're a good team, you're going to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: you're going on to play, you know, so like you

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Speaker 4: there's it's not all just like hey on this play,

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Speaker 4: you're doing this. It's it's a lot of like you've

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Speaker 4: got to have humor and if you don't have humor,

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Speaker 4: and you don't you don't.

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Speaker 5: Have the ability to laugh at yourself. You'll you've never

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Speaker 5: met tried.

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Speaker 1: I've pitched it around so many times.

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Speaker 2: The community like an office style show for like the

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Speaker 2: equipment room or like an NFL football team, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, the equipment room guys, the training room guys,

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Speaker 2: the coaches. There's these little communities and like you said,

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Speaker 2: we're like Billy Oh said, we're always together for so long.

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Speaker 2: You have to find the funny moments to you know,

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Speaker 2: help you get through the process because it's fucking long.

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Speaker 2: But there's so many funny things and the camaraderie that

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Speaker 4: And when Brady's retirement, Tom's retirement thing that you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody was at. You guys were there, you know the

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Speaker 4: thing that that I was reminded of there And I

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Speaker 4: Now it was really Look, you know, we had Tom,

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Speaker 4: we had Julian, we had Moss, we had you know,

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Speaker 4: Rodney Harrison, Mike Vrabel, all these great players will for

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Speaker 4: you could name them all right, you know, all these unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Players, but they were they were also like great people.

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Speaker 1: It's about the people.

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Speaker 4: And and the work ethic and the intelligence and the

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Speaker 4: the the ability to be a great teammate and the humor.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it was just it was a and

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Speaker 4: that included the video staff and the training staff, everyone equipment.

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Speaker 1: It was just a Teddy Jared shout out.

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Speaker 4: And Bill put put all those people together. He really did.

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Speaker 4: He put all those people together during those years. And

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Speaker 4: I'm just a firm believer in that if you can,

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Speaker 4: if you get the right people together, you got a

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Speaker 4: chance to win.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: That was that that that was a fun reminder the

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Speaker 2: guys and you'll see I'll come back and see you know, Teddy, Jared,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy and all all everyone in the building. But when

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Speaker 2: to see everyone in the same area, you haven't done

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Speaker 2: that in a very long time. And it was it

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Speaker 2: felt like home again, and it felt comfortable and it

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Speaker 2: was all, you know, it was fun to celebrate Tom Now.

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Speaker 3: Matt Patricia on the Patriots Defensive Rooms Pizza Fridays.

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Speaker 1: Who's some of your favorite coma.

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Speaker 7: That's a great question. I got really into Sebastian man Hands,

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Speaker 7: But you know who the best guy that got me

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Speaker 7: into all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 7: You're gonna have to guess this one of my favorite

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Speaker 7: all time people to be around.

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Speaker 1: Is he a coach?

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Speaker 8: No, he was a special teams linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Special teams Dane Fletcher.

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Speaker 7: I love Dane Fletchers talking to the other day. I

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Speaker 7: love Dane same time. Dane Fletcher and this guy. So

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Speaker 7: we had tradition in the defensive room. It was, you know,

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Speaker 7: so pizza Friday.

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Speaker 8: Pizza.

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Speaker 7: So pizza Friday was a big thing. That was a

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Speaker 7: big Dante thing when I was on offense. And pizza

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Speaker 7: Friday the whole idea and why Ted struggled with this, right,

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Speaker 7: and remember Ted's first shout tell the Ted story.

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Speaker 1: To Ted is the nutritionist.

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Speaker 8: He came in, right.

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Speaker 7: So that was our third that was our fourth, right,

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Speaker 7: So Joanne was first, then we had guy was there

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Speaker 8: And Ted, right, So, but we always had pizza Friday.

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Speaker 7: And the idea with pizza Friday was this, It wasn't

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Speaker 7: about the pizza, It was about the mentality.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: So when you were in school and you went to school.

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Speaker 7: Got pizza on Friday, right, Well, okay, Friday's gonna be

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Speaker 7: a good day because you went in.

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Speaker 8: It was actually the it.

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Speaker 7: Was the only meal that was actually the only good

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Speaker 7: Pizza Friday. But the idea for us was and again

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Speaker 7: this back in the day, forth got crazy like it

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Speaker 7: got crazy in New England, but literally because I had

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Speaker 7: to do the practice schedules.

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Speaker 8: So I would.

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Speaker 7: I remember, people were amazed I figured out how to

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Speaker 7: paste like it was Dominoes and KFC, like that's what

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Speaker 7: we had. It was Dominoes and KFC and past some

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Speaker 7: of the practice schedules Friday, thank god. But it was right.

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Speaker 7: The work week is, we're coming to the end. It's

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Speaker 7: all positive. Let's not be yelling and screaming today. Let's

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Speaker 7: go out and have a good pret Let's feel. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: let's feel. Let's have a good until day. Like it's

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Speaker 7: pizza Friday. Everybody'd be good. Now, Scar, if you remember,

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Speaker 7: he'd be like, don't ruin pizza Friday. Don't make because

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Speaker 7: of the ball. Not only Pizza Friday, but we used

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Speaker 7: to have videos on Friday.

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Speaker 8: Ny videos. So originally started out as like highlights. We

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Speaker 7: You know it be may'd be good because you had

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Speaker 7: some legit dudes at a d high school film. And

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Speaker 7: then you'd have like, you know whatever, Rob Ryan's highlight

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Speaker 7: QC's job to get a tape and credit quality control,

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Speaker 7: young coach, and it better be funny because these guys

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Speaker 7: we've been yelling and screaming all week. We need something

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Speaker 7: funny before we go on the field. And Vince was

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Speaker 7: the best because Vince, we didn't leave. I love love Vince, right,

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Speaker 7: so Vince wouldn't leave until we showed the video. Even

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Speaker 7: though Scottijo had a meeting coming in, It's like it

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Speaker 7: didn't matter and like Vince wasn't leaving, the next meeting

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Speaker 7: wasn't starting, and he wanted something funny. Well, Nico Kuda

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Speaker 7: Viti's funny comes in and Nico is one of the funniest, best.

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Speaker 1: Great heart of human being who is the.

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Speaker 2: What do they call it in the in the Italian

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Speaker 2: world levantier or something?

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Speaker 8: Okay, killing me right now?

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Speaker 1: So you always calling levantier though, So.

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Speaker 7: Nico would bring in the videos and he like he

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Speaker 7: take he this was like the one like I don't

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Speaker 7: think he knew any of the defensive assignments, but he

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Speaker 7: nailed Friday. We would be laughing at the cur he

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Speaker 8: He had me dying.

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Speaker 1: He loves because that's kind of Nico's humor too, because

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 8: Chicago Italian stuff. Nico was Grid next.

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Speaker 5: Was trying to call you off when you were in motion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that. It was a great story.

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Speaker 4: Juice's story, Jesus his side, your side.

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Speaker 3: Is what I need to het up a wheel for you.

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Speaker 2: If I would have flip my hipsky was in my face,

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Speaker 1: I got drilled. He got drilled, drilled. I come running off.

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Speaker 3: You got that.

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Speaker 1: I take care of that. The trade used to have

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Speaker 4: Now, Ernie Adams on why joint practices were so important

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Speaker 6: We would have the joint practices if I remember now

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Speaker 6: And we had a joint practice yesterday morning with another

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Speaker 6: And like we if we were practicing with the Patriots, Okay,

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Speaker 6: If there's you know, we are not we're here to practice.

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Speaker 1: We will set up a ring and go to it.

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Speaker 6: The big thing is what we found was you can

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Speaker 1: To before it's coming technique.

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Speaker 6: You can listen to the defensive backs going Linda, Linda, Linda. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like I'm not stupid.

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Speaker 6: I know it's gonna be cover too. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: So you can hear.

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Speaker 6: That's how you hear, you know, the quarterbacks. But I'm

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Speaker 6: I know what these I've said there. I'm just sitting

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Speaker 6: You know, it's uh.

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Speaker 1: So joint practices. You get to use your terminology.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's like the COVID year. If you could actually

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Speaker 2: Game, it was gnarly. You can hear the other coaches

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Speaker 2: watching us. It was fucking state.

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Speaker 1: It was senior night at Kent State. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new

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Speaker 3: episode and every Sunday for another Games with names Highland

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