1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steph. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: I never told you protection of I heart Radio. Oh 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the big question? Oh yeah, do it like how you're 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: like bored of this now? Uh? You know, let's just 5 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: do a simple Uh. How is your quarantine going? How 6 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: is my quarantine going? Uh? It is okay, I think 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: because we are in an area that's really highly infected 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: and continues used to go up, and we don't have 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: very good regulation on it. I'm a little weary right 10 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: now because there's no end in sight. It's uh, and 11 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, you just experienced your birthday during quarantine is 12 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: coming up soon, and I have no doubt We're not 13 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna be going anywhere any soon. My parents fifty in 14 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: the verse, Yes, coming up. So it's just kind of 15 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: everything is very limited, and everything is kind of like, oh, 16 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: can someone just get it together please? So I would 17 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: say today is the wrong day to asked me that. 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: But the good news is the good news is that 19 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: I was I'm thinking of a good news. Peaches and 20 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: I are still okay. We have plenty of good things 21 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: and we are healthy. How about you? How are you doing? 22 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing okay. I I feel like everybody has their 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: ups and downs during this. Um I do. I will say, 24 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: I suspect I will have two birthdays in quarantine. UM 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I think right around this time next year, maybe we'll 26 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: be getting out, but maybe not. Um it's odd, I think. 27 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: I know we all joke about it, but the the 28 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: way time has become so strange to me. I'm both 29 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: shocked that it's my birthday and like I feel like 30 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: it should have been years and years, like you know 31 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it feels like I can't believe 32 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: it's August, right, but also it feels like it should 33 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: be March of next year, right, So September is coming 34 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: up on us, which is a whole different conversation because 35 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I know between the fact that there's no assistance for 36 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: people who are who are struggling, yeah, during the pandemic 37 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: and during the quarantine. Uh student alone. Forgiveness is about 38 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: to be up, not forgiveness, but the suspension is about 39 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: to be up, so people are having to delve back 40 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: into that. So it's a whole different thing to me 41 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: that time has passed so quickly but at the same 42 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: time so slowly, and I'm always confused. That's my new 43 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: state of being yeah, yeah, and I definitely want to 44 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: come back, can return to because we did productivity at 45 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: the beginning, and I want to come back and do 46 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: it just because I have new thoughts and I think 47 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: a lot of us do um new thoughts and experiences 48 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: on it. And so yesterday here in the US, it 49 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: was a moment to stay because it was my birthday, 50 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: but also because it was back to school for a 51 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of places and UM already a lot of places 52 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: use Zoom for classrooms, and Zoom went out yesterday and 53 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: there's this conversation of like, well, okay, what are we 54 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: going to do? And this is why any uses Skype. Yes, 55 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: not a sponsor. I just have strong opinions about it, 56 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: and they come up with every guest because every guest 57 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: is like what haven't you skype in twenty years? It's 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: like a throwback. They're like, wow, the only person I'm like, yeah, yeah, 59 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: probably yeah, we are we are professionals. We Zoom does 60 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: not granted as bequeath us with a forty five minute 61 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: plus speaking time. Yeah, and when we have guests, we 62 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: just like to talk to them forever and never and never, 63 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: well you don't want unless there's a heart out you 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: don't want that hanging over your head. Um. But okay, 65 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, this was something else we wanted to revisit 66 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: because we also towards the beginning of pandemic we talked 67 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: about how it is impacting women specifically, and now we 68 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: have some numbers, um, some more statistics. So especially now 69 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: as we're we're talking about kids going back to school 70 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: and what that that looks like for women. One in 71 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: five Americans have lost their jobs during the pandemic because 72 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: of child care. Concerns are loss of option, and specifically, 73 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: more and more women are having to give up their 74 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: jobs or go part time. Women are almost three times 75 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: likelier than men to do that. Um. There's also been 76 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: a drop in academic papers committed by women, which we 77 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: did mention in the previous episode, and we all lose 78 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: out from that, We all lose out on their scientific contributions. 79 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Some women have started pulling essentially all nighters, maybe three 80 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: to four times a week to get their work done 81 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: and care for their children. And I was reading account 82 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: from these women and it it's just it's unsustainable. That 83 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: is unsustainable. Like you said, Smith, if we had an 84 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: end in sight, that would be one thing, it would 85 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: still be miserable, but there is no end in sight, 86 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: UM and I just the toll that takes physically and 87 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: emotionally and mentally. A recent study of three thousand people 88 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: found that women spent an average fifteen hours more a 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: week on unpaid labor as compared to men in the 90 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: United States. All study out of Australia found that in 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: households with children, parents are putting in an extra six 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: hours a day um towards childcare, with over two thirds 93 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: of that falling to women. Another study out of the 94 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: US found that one third of employed women reported having 95 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: to do a majority of the childcare during COVID, compared 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: to only seven percent of employed men, and this holds 97 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: true across all wage brackets in the UK. As Surti. 98 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: The found that women were twice as likely to do 99 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: the home schooling and that they were considerably likelier in 100 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: the article's terms, to give up their jobs as compared 101 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: to men with children at the same age. It's been 102 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: really interesting just to watch Twitter and any of social 103 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: media with people talking and having conversations about how many 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: women are coming in just trying to vent their frustrations, 105 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: but at the same time seem like a good mom, 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, trying to play that character. So it's just 107 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: such a weird psychotomy to see. And I've seen definitely 108 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: men come up and and talk about it, but it 109 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: seems a lot of that isn't concerned to their wife 110 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: or their partner, who if we're talking about a head 111 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: of sexual couple, that's what we're talking about that it's 112 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: not necessarily they're complaining because they're like, oh, I have 113 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: to do all these things. Is oh my wife is 114 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: having to do all these things and she's having to 115 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: quit her job, and it's kind of like, you don't 116 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: find something wrong with Okay, but back to so the 117 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: headline from Boston dot Com on their findings reads, nearly 118 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: half of men say they do most of the home schooling, 119 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: and three percent of women agree. Any percent of women 120 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: say they're fully are mostly responsible for schooling during the lockdown, 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: and we've definitely talked about that many of times UM 122 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: And interestingly, some surveys are finding that upboards of two 123 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: thirds of men have reported wanting to work from home 124 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: even after the pandemic, with quote increased family time UM 125 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: being their number one reason. And some women have reported 126 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: that if businesses do allow for flexibility and remote working opportunities. 127 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: In the long run, it could be a real benefit 128 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: for women. So that's interesting. And I know that we've 129 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: had this back and forth because the conversation of many 130 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: of times has been I can't I just do this 131 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: at home? Yeah, And that's kind of like, well, we've 132 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: proven you can. Yeah yeah. Uh And and that's one 133 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: of the things I love about our job, Samantha, is 134 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that flexibility. Um, I so important to me. And I 135 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: don't have children. I don't really have any responsibility other 136 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: than making sure and caring for myself. That's a responsibility. 137 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: It is it is, um. But yeah, that's one of 138 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: the if we're trying to still aligning it. That's what 139 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying. Also, interestingly, apparently there's 140 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: been I guess sort of similar to what you're saying, 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: is man, that there's been an argument lobbed at women. Um, 142 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: mother's that's basically like, you should be enjoying the quality 143 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: time with your kid or something is wrong with you 144 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a k. You should want to stay home, You should 145 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: stay home with the kids, that you should like it, um, 146 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: which I had it again, I don't have children. This 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me. When I read it, but I hadn't 148 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: really thought. I mean, this is a whole new form 149 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: of mom shaming, which I've talked about as coming back 150 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: to an episode soon about what is this level of 151 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: need to be the perfect mother not even like and 152 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: then what does that mean? It does this a completely 153 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: different notion to what being a perfect father is and 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: then having a pandemic we're also responsible in their all 155 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the day entertainment slash education. Yeah, no, it's definitely mom shaming, 156 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: just to the nth degree. I also did read it 157 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: from a lot of these surveys they cited. I can't 158 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: remember the survey, but there's been a couple of studies 159 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: that have shown that um, women consistently under report, uh, 160 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: the amount of work they do, and men consistently overreported, 161 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and there's sort of this mismatch. And I mean we've 162 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: talked about that all the time that you know, if 163 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: a mom is a little frazzled one day and so 164 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: is that I mean just fifteen minutes in closet, she's 165 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: a bad mom. But if a dad is like, oh 166 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: today I sat with my child for fifteen and its like, well, 167 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: look what good dad? But I do think that's changing. 168 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: And UM, I do find that survey that report that 169 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: men two thirds of men say they would like to 170 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: spend more time at home, working at home for family time, 171 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I find very fascinating. Um, So well, we'll see how 172 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: that plays out. Also part of this conversation, despite being 173 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: afraid for the safety other kids in themselves, some women 174 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: don't have a choice but to send their kids back 175 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: to school. They have to work, and it's impossible to 176 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: work from home for one reason or another. And I 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: think something we've brought up, you know, a lack of 178 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: internet and how big of a problem that is. But 179 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: also just supplies in general. Um, if you have that, 180 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: if you're fortunate enough to have a little bit of 181 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: leeway in your budget and you could just go and 182 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: get you know, markers or whatever they might be. But 183 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: not everyone has that. Um. And it's the same thing 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: with especially when we look at essential workers. So we 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: look at it as as well. Have a conversation about 186 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: essential workers or domestic workers. They don't have the option 187 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: to stay at home. That's a lot of thing. And 188 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: and because of that, if they do have children, they 189 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: have to have educations and if they're not being offered 190 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: to have it at the house. So this is a 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: conflict of trying and we've talked about it before, trying 192 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: to keep people safe, but at the same time, what 193 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: is feasible and what isn't. Yeah, and I've been serving 194 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: my friends who have kids about what are they doing, 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: and um, a lot of people around here are doing 196 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: a pod system and yeah, but you have to pay 197 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: more for that, And I was like, what, really, You're okay. 198 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing with like PP even 199 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: for the classrooms. Just we know, we've heard the many 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: stories of teachers having to buy their own supplies. Now 201 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: add to that sanitizers, masks and all of that and 202 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: they're having to bring it themselves. Mm hmm. Yeah. And 203 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: these are just tough conversations. And since we don't have 204 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: an end insight, and since a lot of these things 205 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: are ending, the stress is just gonna compound. So I'm 206 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: sure we'll have will be revisiting this again soon. Uh. 207 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Something else I found that I wanted to mention that 208 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: will definitely be revisiting, probably when there are more numbers. Um. 209 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: So another issue we're starting to get this data on 210 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: is unintended pregnancies resulting from lack of access to reproductive 211 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: health services and contraception. During this pandemic, according to the 212 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: U N Population Fund, we might see upwards of seven 213 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: to fifteen million unintended pregnancies around the world and thousands 214 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: of deaths from unsafe abortions and complications during birth. It's 215 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: estimated that in India alone, twenty six million couples cannot 216 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: access contraception, potentially leading to two to three million unintended 217 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: pregnancies and eight hundred thousand unsafe abortions. Right, And I 218 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: think that's a bigger conversation we've had, and we've seen 219 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: the fights play out right now with access to reproduct 220 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: reproductive healthcare and why that the conservative idea is to 221 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: kind of pounce on that was right right now when 222 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: it could be when to see like the most worst 223 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: timing ever. But yeah, that's a whole different conversation and 224 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: a bigger episode we'll have to come back to. So 225 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: the United Nations have warned that this pandemic could lead 226 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: to decades of regression when it comes to gender equality, 227 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: and that breaks my heart so hard. It's just I 228 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: cannot believe this is where we are and the constant, 229 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: we actionary response that we're having from our leadership is 230 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: not helping, not helping, and this is such an awful, 231 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: awful place to be to be in a bad situation 232 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: and then compound it with bad policies. Yeah, and and 233 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: you can if you if you're really looking for downer. Uh. 234 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: There are a lot of numbers out there about the 235 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: economic loss as well, and it's it can be depending 236 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: on where you read it. I mean you're looking at 237 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: like trillions loss, women losing trillions, um, so's it's substantial. 238 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: And um, these are just really difficult conversations that people 239 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: are having to have and we would love to hear 240 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: from listeners how you're handling things. How's back to school 241 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: going for for your kids if you have them, or 242 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: if you're going back to school? 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