1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: You're about to hear a clip from one of our 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Patreon exclusive episodes. To hear the entire episodes, sign up 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: now at patreon dot com. Slash Jenkins and Jones. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to a. 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Very special livestream Jenkinson Jones here on Thursday nights up 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Late with us July thirty first. This is going to 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: be another special edition DJ d F jay Z. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Edition. John will be on a little bit later. 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: We will be joined by Big FoST a little later 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: as well as Tyler. I am all my favorite Internet 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: Tyler's will be on tonight. But Tyler, with that, why 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: don't you take it away and tell people about what 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: we're going to be listening to and kick it off? 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, it was on Saturday. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: Doug Motivation one on one turn twenty years old, and boy, 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: oh boy, oh boy, what a fucking album. Hold on 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: today my YouTube fucking up. But twenty years twenty fucking 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: years and I can I've really cannot believe that this 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: album turned twenty years old. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Like we're old. 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: As fuck, bro old as fuck, old as fuck, and 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: this was this is an album that you know I 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: was outside for, Like this is this is an album 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: where I was in the motherfucking clubs turning up to 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: this day, Like, I have never seen a rap album 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: that dominated a summer the way Thug Motivation did summer 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: two thousand five. 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: It was a moment, and we are bringing on my 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: boy big Foss. 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: You know, Like like Mike mentioned, who was out there 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: in those Atlanta streets during that time, which is a 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: big reason why I reached out to him, So I 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: know he's got some stories. He was out there in 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: those Atlanta streets with NFL money during this so. 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: So I know he got some stories. 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: Bro. I'm very much looking forward to that conversation. But yeah, 37 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: it's you if you weren't there, Bro, it is just 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: hard to quantify and explain how much of a moment 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: it was. 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: It was. 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: It was a fucking moment where, gee, you know this 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: this was his his debut album. 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: More or less. 44 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: He had, you know, like an independent album called Come 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: Shop with Me that didn't make a lot of noise, 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: but this was the one that really put GZ on 47 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: the map. 48 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: And it was a just. 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: You when if you went outside, every car you heard 50 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: was playing it. I'd go to the club, the DJ 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: would run off a JZ set that was ten songs 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: deep and we were rocking the whole fucking time. And 53 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: when he transitioned out that Jesus said, we were like, no, 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Nigga more, Gez, give us more, give us more, tam 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: one on one Like it was just an album that 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: had a whole summer and a stranglehold in a way 57 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: I've never seen a rap album. So I feel like, 58 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: in order to kind of explain, you know, the magnitude, 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: the importance, the historical importance of this album as well, 60 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: we have to kind of go back to the genesis 61 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: point and the foundation that was laid for this album 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: to be the moment that it was, and the genesis 63 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 3: point that I think that laid the foundation for Jez 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: to be the superstar that he was. We would have 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: to go back to like Summer two thousand and two. 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: And if you're a rap fan and I bring up 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: Summer two thousand and two, there's probably a name that 68 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: comes to mind, and that's fifty cent and fifty Summer 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: two thousand and two. He shifted the whole business model 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: of rap where he fifty cent was the first superstar 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: to catapult to superstardom and rap through mixtapes. 72 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 2: Right for those who don't might be a little too young. 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: There was a time in rap where rappers shop things 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: called demos where where they had like, like a rapper 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: the whole night. 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like wor old as fuck bro we 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Ald break out the motherfucking being gay dog. Yeah. 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: So rappers had these things called demos which were like 79 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, little EPs, basically about four or five songs, right, Like, 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: they would have a single on that on that demo 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: where they're like, hey, this is the one, and then 82 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: they would have you know other you know, like I said, 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: about three or four other songs on it that they 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: would shop right, and they would shop it to radio stations, 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: they would shop at the record labels, et cetera, et cetera. 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Fifty cent changed that whole business model. 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: Fifty cent killed the demo right and because fifty cent 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: he was a dude who was on Columbia. He got 89 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: shot up nine times by by Supreme Team, you know 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: jah Ru's Click Summer two thousand, Columbia dropped them. 91 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: They were like, this dude is probably gonna. 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: Die, Like like that's the legit. The reason they dropped me, Like, 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: this dude is probably gonna die. Let's get him out here. 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: We're not giving them any more money, right, And so 95 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: fifty cent hopped out here and he linked up with 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: DJ who Kid and he you know, started running off 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: these mixtapes summer two thousand and two. And what was 98 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 3: unique about fifty cents mixtapes is he was taking other 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: artists songs, r and B artists, rappers, taking their beats. 100 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: And he wasn't just rapping on them, right, like like 101 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: rapping over other rappers beats. That's fucking hip hop one 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: on one. That's some shit from nineteen fucking seventy nine, right, Like, 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: he was not an innovator in that. 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: But where he was an innovator was he was making 105 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: he was he wasn't just structuring these like freestyles. 106 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: He was making songs out of him like he was 107 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: making choruses and hooks. Like I remember he opped on 108 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: the Di Angelo and Rafaelsa Deke song you should be Here, 109 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: and he was, you know, doing his the Angelo Rafaela 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: dec impression on the hook right like. So so that's 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: where he kind of you know, took a took a 112 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: left turn in regards to to to mixtapes there. And 113 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: we all know the story Doctor dra and eminem you know, 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: caught buzz how that, you know, bring him on the aftermath. 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: He does eight hundred thousand in a short week, in 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: four days, and he's the biggest starring rap and all 117 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: because of mixtapes. Because he he was like, you know, 118 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: I got to drop our record label. I'm not doing 119 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: this shop in my demo shit anymore. I'm gonna get 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: out here. I'm a floodshit and the record labels are 121 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: going to come to me, right And so fifty like 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: I said, he killed the demo. He shifted the whole 123 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 3: business model to where if you wanted to be known, 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: you know, if you wanted to get on, if you 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: wanted to get a record dealers rapper, you had to 126 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: get out here and you had to floodshit. That little 127 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: four song demo that you shopped to record labels. That's 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: that was an antiquated model after fifty cents, Like you 129 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: had to go out here, you had to floodshit, you 130 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: had to you know, you know, get on your mixtape 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: ron And I feel like that's still the model to 132 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: this day. Like if you see a new rapper who 133 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: comes on the scene, you're like, wow, that song is incredible. 134 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: Let me check out their Spotify, let me check out 135 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: their Apple Music, and you don't see like like a 136 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: mixtape or two on there. You're like, this dude is fumbling, 137 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: like like you should have been prepared for this moment, 138 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like like that is the standard. 139 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: Now, can I. 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: Ask you a question based off what people are saying 141 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: in the chat? 142 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: How did you get this album? 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: Like? 144 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: Did you buy it physically? Did you have to download it? 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: I had the boot leg early that summer. 146 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, this I had the bootleg in like fucking May 147 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: or June and then and the actual commercial release was different. 148 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: It had like five or six different songs that weren't 149 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: on the bootleg. So yeah, I think, and I think 150 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: that's that's the way most people, you know, did you. 151 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: Did you download the bootleg? Yeah? Or did you okay, okay, yeah, 152 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: that's people. 153 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: Were talking about giving their Someone said they gave their 154 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: computer aids to download that ship. 155 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: It was worth That motherfucker was a heater.