1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: This is Let's Be Clear with Shannon Dohrny. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, and hello to the Let's Be Clear listeners. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: My name is marisaul Nichols. Now you may know me 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: from shows like Refordo or even twenty four, or if 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: you're more my age, you may know me from Vegas 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Vacation playing Audrey Griswold. But today I am very humbled 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: to be guest hosting this episode of Let's Be Clear. 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: I had the opportunity of working with Shannon actually several 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: times on nine O two one zero, also Uncharmed, and 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: then we did a movie together that was for MTV 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: called Friends Till the End, So and she was always 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: just absolutely wonderful and besides being incredibly talented, I always 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: always respected her advocate work. So I understand that this 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: podcast is something that's very important to her, and I'm 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: really honored to be doing it today and to be 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: hopefully creating a space for strong women and strong voices, 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: which is what I know Shannon wanted and today, aside 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: from me being an actress, if you don't know, and 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: you can just kind of google it or anything, but 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: for the past ten twelve years, I have been working 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: also in the field of human trafficking, both as believe 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: it or not, an undercover agent, because I've been deputized 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: in several states, in several countries, and I would use 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: my acting skills to partner with different law enforcements to 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: help them get into places or talk like a kid 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: or look like a kid, or look like a trafficker, 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: or look like a customer, depending on whatever's needed. And 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: I also have a nonprofit called Foundation for Slavery Few 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: World that I founded about almost a decade ago. So 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: that's what we're going to be talking to about today, 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: and hopefully by the end you'll learn something. You'll learn 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: how to protect yourself, happy, to protect your family, your friends. 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: We're going to cover things such as child predators and 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: internet safety and all of that. 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: All of that stuff, So let's get started. 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: So first, I wanted to talk a little bit about 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: why in the world I am talking about human trafficking 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: and how in the world I got involved. So essentially, 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: back in twenty twelve, in a twenty twelve early twenty thirteen, 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: I was friends with this older woman who traveled around 41 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: the world educating people. 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: About human rights. Literally, that's what she did. 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: And she would come back from these travels and tell 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: me these like heartbreaking, horrific stories about human trafficking, and 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: back then, I'm like, what are you talking about. 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know what. 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: That meant, and I didn't understand that this was a thing, 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, this was over a decade ago. 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: So anyway, I sort of hearing about it, and she 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: started telling me about like something called the sex trade, 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: which made me want to throw up, and that there were, 52 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, people caught up in this and hold against 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: their will, just like slaves. And I was pretty shocked 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: because I was like, I thought slavery was abolished when 55 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln abolished it, you know, on the Emancipation Proclamation. 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: And I was wrong. I was very wrong. 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: And actually, back then, the statistics, according to the International 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Labor Organization, there were twenty one million people worldwide caught 59 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: up in what Barack Obama called modern day slavery, and 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: today that number is upwards a fifty million worldwide, and 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: it's in every single country, especially also including the United States, 62 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: and every single city in the United States, and it 63 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: is just rampant. And so essentially I was like, Okay, 64 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep. It wasn't like I was like, Okay, 65 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: let me go take this on. I honestly could not sleep. 66 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: I had, I think at the time, I was six, 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: and I was I was I just I couldn't imagine 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: other kids going through the things that I heard. And 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to try and keep this palatable so you 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: don't turn the channel, but some very very dark things. 71 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: And I couldn't sleep, and. 72 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: So I was just, well, I'm a firm believer in 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: let me figure out what I can do about it, 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, And so I dove in, and I dove in. 75 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: I met with different NGOs, non governmental organizations, different nonprofits. 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: I met with senators, I met with Republicans, I met 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: with Democrats. I met with everyone and their mother. I 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: met with executive brands of the White House. I met 79 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: with State Department, I met with Homeland Security, different law 80 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: enforcement entities, everyone and anyone that I could that was 81 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: trying to tackle this, to learn as much as I could, 82 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: to see what I could do about it, if anything. 83 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: And at the time, I was promoting a TV show 84 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: that I did called GCB for ABC, and I was 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: walking the red carpet on you know, one of these 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: events where your publicist calls you and say hey, marries, well, 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: can you come out for backpacks for children? It's a 88 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: charity organization in Style magazine, it's going to be covering it, 89 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: you know. And then you run and you scramble and 90 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: you get an outfit, you get a dress, and you 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: get a makeup artist, and you know, you look all 92 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: pretty and you walk this red carpet and what you. 93 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Get is a cheat sheet. 94 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: So what that is is your publicist goes, here's your 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: talking points, and you get talking points so that when 96 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: Access Hollywood shoves a microphone in your face and goes, 97 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: why are you here for backpacks for children? You can go, oh, bah, 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: there's sixty thousand children in the United States without backpacks. 99 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: And you look I hate to say this, but you 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: look like you really know what you're talking about, when honestly, 101 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: you've been given a cheat sheet for the most part, 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: for the most of us. And I was learning about 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: this very dark thing, and I just I was like, look, 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: the only way that this thing can be allowed to 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: happen to the degree that it is happening in the 106 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: world is because good people don't know about it. 107 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Because all the. 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: Bad guys know about it, know about it, but good 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: people don't know about this thing. How would we ever 110 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: cross flow this thing and find out about it unless 111 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: we're involved with some dark stuff. 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, I'm going to throw. 113 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: My own red carpet event, and I'm going to invite 114 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: people from different nonprofits and different sectors of the government 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: and law enforcement to come and speak on this issue. 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: And I'm going to have the press there, and I 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: had access Hollywood there, and we invited all my you know, 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: actor friends and stuff, and we gave them. 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Cheat sheets and so when they would walk the red. 120 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: Carpet, they were the ones including like Terry Crews and 121 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: Kelly Preston and you know, Jenna Elfman and Erica Christensen 122 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: and Kristin Chenowith, and it was really amazing and they 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: would spit out the statistics and they were learning for 124 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: the first time about this issue. So when they came 125 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: into the event, instead of a typical Hollywood event where 126 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: there's like open bar and a DJ and that's it's 127 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: mingling and that's pretty much all of it. I made 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: it like an award show because I wanted to find 129 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: a way that I could communicate what was happening in 130 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: the world in a way that wasn't like a lecture, 131 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, And so long story short, you know, I 132 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: had I had different celebrities award at different individuals that 133 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: were doing work in this field, and then as they 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: would accept their award, they would talk about what it 135 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: was that they did, and we had a nice intro 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: video and so by. 137 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Default people would learn about it. So that's essentially how 138 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: it all started. 139 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: And then one year I needed a keynote speaker, and 140 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: I met an organization that was running around essentially another 141 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: NGO that was running around rescuing women and children and 142 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: infiltrating different trafficking rings and working with law enforcement here 143 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: in California or in other states or in other countries. 144 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: And the head of that organization at the time was like, 145 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: can you you know, do you want to come and 146 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: watch and op? 147 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: And I'm like sure, And then when I got there, 148 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: it was like, well, do you want to can you 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: help me? I need a female And that was kind 150 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: of it. I just kind of dove in, and by 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: default I would just get phone calls, can you come, 152 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: can you come out? We're going to go to this 153 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: foreign country which I'm not going to say, but different 154 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: foreign countries, and you know, this was the real This 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: is the real deal. This is as scary as it 156 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: freaking gets, it as dark as it freaking gets. And 157 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: but I felt like if I could use a skill 158 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: set that I have in acting to get into a 159 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: place where other law enforcement maybe can't get into because I. 160 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: Don't look like a cop. 161 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: That was the biggest thing is I'd wear disguises and 162 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't look like a cop, so it would like 163 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: essentially bring the guard down of the bad guys. And 164 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: that's that's just what I did off and on while 165 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: filming Riverdale, while not filming Roverdale, in between other things, 166 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: and I would just get a phone call. And I've 167 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: worked with different sectors of law enforcement, including the LAPD 168 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: and the sheriffs in Chris Wanson in Michigan. I've worked 169 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: in Sacramento, California. I've worked in these other foreign countries 170 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: and there you go, and I kind of just fell 171 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: into that side of things. 172 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: So okay. 173 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: So one of the things is that I wanted to 174 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: make sure that everyone understands like human trafficking, Like when 175 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: you think of human trafficking, you think people chained up 176 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: in a room and held against their will, and all 177 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: kinds of images conjure, right, and that does happen, and 178 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: that is true. 179 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: But it's also when I say it's here in the 180 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: United States, because it is here in the United States. 181 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: These are people, human beings, women, children, sometimes men, but 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: mainly in the sex trade, because it's what I kind 183 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: of concentrate on. It's women and children and little boys, 184 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: and they are essentially held against their will, forced into 185 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: by coercion or pain or something else, into servicing, for 186 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: lack of a better word, strangers. And it is horrible 187 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: and it's heartbreaking. 188 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: And my main thing is. 189 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: It's supply and demand, right, you would not have a 190 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: supply of what it is now six point six million 191 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: I think it's six point six million children caught up 192 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: in the sex trade currently globally. You would not have 193 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: that supply if you did not have a demand. And 194 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: so you know, there's trafficking comes in the forms of 195 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: labor trafficking and debt bondage, the kind of thing that 196 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: you would think of of like, hey, can you smuggle 197 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: me across the border into a different country, Yes, but 198 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: now you have to pay off your debt and you 199 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: have to work off your debt. Oh, and we're going 200 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: to steal your passport. Oh, and we're going to force. 201 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: You to do X, Y and z, depending on whatever 202 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: it is. 203 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: It's different forms, right, So my main focus was always 204 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: you know, I had to kind of pick a focus, 205 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: so I just I focused on the sex trade because 206 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: for me, it was the most upsetting. And so, like 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: I said, it's supply and demand. You would not have 208 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: that supply if you did not have that demand. And 209 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: so my main focus now I have my own podcasts, 210 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: and I work and I try to educate directly to 211 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: women and children and teachers and parents of Hey, guys, 212 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: this is how you do not get pulled into this world. 213 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: And this is how to protect your kids online, and 214 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: this is how to protect yourself. You know, we're hearing 215 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: all kinds of things of between Uber and different online 216 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: forums and things like that. It's essentially you just have 217 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: to educate yourself so you can prevent yourself and your 218 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: loved ones from ever getting into the hands of these criminals. 219 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: One of the questions here is, you know, how do 220 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: young people get pulled into it? Well, in America, and 221 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: I'll try to keep this talk more towards America, the 222 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: majority of women and children that are that are or 223 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: young young women and children that are caught up into 224 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: this are runaways or foster care kids. There's actually a 225 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: saying in this industry that foster care is a straight 226 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: line to jail for boys and a straight line to 227 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: trafficking for girls. 228 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: And it's just. 229 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: It's because they're the most vulnerable. Any vulnerable person is 230 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: suspect to this, right. And so what happens is traffickers 231 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: will hang out of foster care homes. 232 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: They'll go to schools. 233 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: And hang out in the yard, or recruit another person 234 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: in school to recruit another girl to go meet with 235 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: the trafficker. There's something called a romeo we call it 236 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: the sort of romeo pimp slash trafficker where they'll be 237 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: tending to be your boyfriend. They'll pretend they're like, oh, 238 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: I love you and kame blah blah blah, and then 239 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: you slowly and they get you away from your support system, 240 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: so they'll convince you to run away. They'll convince you 241 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: that you know, the people that are supposed to look 242 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: out for you are bad and that they are better 243 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: at looking out for you. And then once they get 244 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: you in those grips, it changes, it changes and it's 245 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: it's called trafficking because it's it's forcing someone to do 246 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: something through force, cohersing against someone's will, that kind of thing. 247 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: How widespread is it in the US? I mean it's 248 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: in You cannot look. You don't have to listen to me, like, 249 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: look it up. It's in every city in America. I 250 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: was shocked when I first started doing this. One of 251 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 2: the one of the ops that we would do is 252 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: we would put an ad in a Craigslist right or 253 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: back then it was also backpage dot com, which was 254 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: a whole website that's been shut down, thank goodness. But 255 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: you'd put an ad and you would literally put an 256 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: ad and say hey, like encoded words. You know, we're parents, 257 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: we are in town three days only here to sell 258 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: our nine year old, twelve year old, thirteen year old. 259 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: And within seconds of posting it, I'd be sitting there 260 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: next to law enforcement. It's just appointment ap point'm an 261 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: appointment phone called email, email, send us a pictures like 262 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: can we talk to can we talk to them? How 263 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: old are the girls? 264 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: What can we do? 265 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Like just just in like small town America, you know, 266 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: just horrific. And I remember the law enforcement officers that 267 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: I was working with and this back in this one 268 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: was twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. 269 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: They were astonished. 270 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: They didn't know it was in their town and this 271 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: was a decade ago. And again, you don't have to 272 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: listen to me, like look it up if you're interested. 273 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: All the data is online, but it is and that's unfortunate. 274 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: My focus has been, Okay, if I can like where 275 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: does my niche fit in? And because of Riverdale, I 276 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: have a large audience of teenagers, young women, parents, sometimes teachers, 277 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And so I was like, okay, 278 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: if I can focus on one thing, I'm going to 279 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: focus on preventative and so that's what we do on 280 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: the podcast. And I also I also have guests on 281 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: that I've gone out of cover with or worked with 282 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: and some capacity, and I just kind of highlight what 283 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: they do and how to protect yourself. Okay, so suburban neighborhoods. Yes, 284 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: in suburban neighborhoods, victims are targeted. Again, Like I said, 285 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: the majority in America are runaways, some foster care kids. 286 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: But there's also they're looking for and what they are 287 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: looking for with traffickers, bad guys, bad actors are looking 288 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: for vulnerability. So they are pretty much everywhere where you 289 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: can have access to kids. So you think about it, parks, YMCAs, 290 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: swim clubs, all of that stuff, but then mainly online. 291 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: Like I always say, like the back in the day 292 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: was the white van you had to look out for, 293 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: which yes, you still have to look out for, but 294 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: it's not the majority. The white van is now the Internet. 295 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: So it's anywhere where they can have access to your kids, right, 296 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: So dming on Instagram, messaging on Facebook, and I'll talk 297 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: a little bit about what Meta has done to protect 298 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: put some policies in place recently, chat rooms, discord any 299 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: game that you can chat anywhere where you can reach 300 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: and talk directly to a kid. And what they're looking 301 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: for is they're looking for, as I mentioned, the vulnerable. 302 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: So what does that look like. So that looks like 303 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: a girl. 304 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: Let's say, you know, maybe fifteen We all know this person, 305 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: you know, fifteen thirteen going on thirty dressed provocatively posting 306 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: a picture online of Instagram or on Facebook or wherever 307 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: they're posting, you know, and like, you know, screw my 308 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: parents or with a cigarette, or like just that they're 309 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: like a badass or they're trying to be a badass, 310 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: I should say, and I only say that because I 311 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: was that girl, you know, and sending up signals that 312 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: they don't maybe have a very close relationship or a 313 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: close support system, right, that's what these guys are looking for. So, 314 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: you know a lot of things that we do is 315 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: we'd put up fake profiles, fake profiles immediately because it's 316 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: the easiest thing in. 317 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: The world to do. Fake profile. 318 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: I'll snap, you know, saw a picture of a young girl, 319 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: age down, Like you can take my face and age 320 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: it down, and now you've got a young girl and 321 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: just post something like screw my parents, or I hate school, 322 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: or you know, I don't know, do you think I'm pretty? 323 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: Things like that, And these guys literally have nothing else 324 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: to do. Like you know, the fat guy in the 325 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: basement that you hear about, they are the fat guy 326 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: in the basement on the internet like this, scrolling through 327 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: tons of profiles at anything in anywhere where they can 328 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: they can find this sort of vulnerable population in life. 329 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: Let's say there's a group of girls, and let's say 330 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: you're at the mall, because it's also you know, these 331 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: guys are everywhere. Say you're at the mall and there's 332 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: a group of group of kids. And let's say there's 333 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: five girls, and let's say some guy goes, hey, baby, 334 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: you know something, anything, just a comment. If four of 335 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: the girls are like ill, they're not going to bother them. 336 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: But the girl who puts her eyes down and is 337 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: like oh hi boom, that's their target. They're looking for vulnerability. 338 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: They're looking for someone who's not strong. They're looking for 339 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: someone that they can easily convince that it's not going 340 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: to fight back, it's not going to make any noise, 341 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I mean, there's so many, so 342 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: many things to look for. 343 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: I had. 344 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: I had a very dear friend of mine who's been 345 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: to my events by the way, been to my events, 346 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: woke up, called me up and said, oh my god, 347 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: marysal Marisel Marsol, Oh my god. And she she had 348 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: woken up the night before for some reason. She goes, 349 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: for some reason, something told me to go into my 350 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: son's room. And she's like, I went into my son's room, 351 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: who's fifteen. He wasn't there. She called him. He was 352 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: in an uber on his way to go meet what 353 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: he thought was a young woman who's you know, obviously 354 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: promising to do certain things with him and had sent 355 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: the Uber. 356 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Now he's fifteen, she's supposed to be fifteen, but they're not. 357 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: How does a fifteen year old get access to a 358 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: credit card to her parents to send an Uber And 359 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: by the way he was being he didn't even know 360 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: where he was going. He was going two hours away. 361 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: And also why does uber pick up a fifteen year 362 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: old boy in the middle of the night. But that's 363 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: a whole other conversation. My point is she had even 364 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: educated herself. She had even even like was aware of this. 365 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: But if they you have to educate your kids and 366 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: young kids, you have to be aware of this because 367 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: it's they will put up a fake profile. They it's 368 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: so easy to create a whole history of a person online. 369 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: It's the easiest thing in the world. Keep in mind, 370 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: none of these platforms require ID, so you can be anyone. 371 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: And these guys, these predators have multiple, multiple profiles, and 372 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: they're doing this all day long, trying to trying to 373 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: reach someone. So one of the things that I want 374 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: to say the good news because I think I'm talking 375 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: a mile a minute. But one of the great things 376 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: that Meta did so Meta owns Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, that 377 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: kind of thing. They rolled out earlier this year, a 378 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: mandatory change in all of their social media, So any 379 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: kid that is under the age I think it was 380 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: seventeen or eighteen, automatically their profiles were private no matter what. 381 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: And what that does is that if you have a 382 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: public profile, as some of you might know, anyone can 383 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: DM you, anyone can reach you. If it's private, you 384 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: have to actually accept messages and accept people in. So 385 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: that's one of the things that rolled out this year. 386 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: There's other legislation that if you want to know more, 387 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: just go onto my website, Marison Nicols dot com. 388 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: That Meta is doing. 389 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: And the good news is that all these different entities 390 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: are all trying to help. Like I have never run 391 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: into anyone in the last decade that I said, oh 392 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: I work in the field of human trafficking or child 393 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: preditors or I work on protect Everyone was like, how 394 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: can I help? 395 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: What can I do? Everyone? 396 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: So the good news is that there are so many 397 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: different organizations and people, law enforcement and politicians doing something 398 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: about this or trying. 399 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: To do something about this. 400 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say, okay, describe I have some questions here. 401 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: So they kind of prompt me to talk. Are people 402 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 2: being targeted online? I mean that's everywhere. By the way, 403 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: you also as a young adult, because I know it's 404 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: not just kids listening to this podcast, but we've got 405 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: women on here and men on here, so you have 406 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: to do your diligence. 407 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: There are cases of. 408 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 2: Girls gone missing the nineteen twenty twenty one years old 409 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: or approached them all. Hey, I really like the way 410 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: you do your makeup. We're looking for makeup artists to 411 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: travel with models. Here's my card. They even have cards, right, 412 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: they even have website sites. So you know, there was 413 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: a case of a girl and it's a very actually 414 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: very famous case, but you know, she got offered a 415 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: job a job, and she went. They had a website, 416 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: they had a questionnaire, so she had given them by 417 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: filling it out her name, her address, her so security number, everything, 418 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: and then when she met met for the job interview, 419 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: then she was just snatched. So if something the biggest 420 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: thing that I teach my own daughter and anyone is like, look, 421 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 2: if something doesn't feel right, it's not right one hundred percent. 422 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: Like trust your instincts. I really believe these things are 423 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: built into us for a reason. You know, trust that 424 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: spidey sense. So in that case, if you meet a 425 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: stranger and they want to meet with you and they 426 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: want to bring a friend, bring someone along. Don't just 427 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: go on their website, but go on other websites and 428 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: see if anybody has even heard of this agency. Are 429 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: there any reviews for this agency? Check to see if 430 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: they're read just stirred, you know in the Better Business Bureau, 431 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: which is are they legit that kind of thing? Or 432 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: like you see these flyers for parties, you know, oh, 433 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: come in this party, come to this party. Ish you 434 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: don't know, like have a buddy, go with someone, don't 435 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: go alone when you're at bars, cover your drink, hands 436 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: over your drink at all times, those kind of things. 437 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: So these guys are organized. They have all the time 438 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: in the world. And the reason why trafficking is like 439 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: it's the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet. It's 440 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: literally drugs trap human trafficking, it's right there. And the 441 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: reason why is because you can sell a drug once 442 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: and it's gone and you have to get a new supply. 443 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: But you can not to horrify you, but you can 444 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: sell a human being over and over and over and 445 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: over it's lucrative. So that's also one of the reasons 446 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: why this is the biggest i mean criminal enterprise in 447 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: the world right now. How hard is it to find 448 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: the victims and rescue them, you know, it depends on 449 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: the victim, and it depends on the country, it depends 450 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: on how they're being sold. So there's a phenomenal organization 451 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: called Skull Games that if you want to know more, 452 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: you can look them up. 453 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: But they do deep dives into. 454 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: The dark Web and deep dives on the web, and 455 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: they can find and see things just on Facebook. They 456 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: can just chat, Okay, this girl is being trafficked by 457 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: this guy who's also trafficking these three women, Like it 458 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: depends on how if the person is on the street, 459 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: you know, like people used to there used to be 460 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: a term. I hated the term, but there used to 461 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: be a term. It's no longer in use child prostitute. 462 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: And you would see these young kids on the street 463 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: and you'd be like, oh my god, and blah la 464 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: la lah. They's traffic. They're not there by choice. They're 465 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: victims themselves, and they've got someone around the corner making 466 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: sure that they do what they need to do, or 467 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: they will be punished. It depends on the situation. One 468 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: place that I worked in was very guarded. It had 469 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: not only walls around the place, but men with guns 470 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: to make sure that they're not letting in someone like 471 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 2: me or someone like the law enforcement guys that I 472 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: was working with, right and it it's very well protected. 473 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: One of the things that I always say is if 474 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: you can run like people always astonished, why didn't they 475 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: run away? A lot of times they can't, a lot 476 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: of times they've been conditioned and beaten that they can't. 477 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: But running away making noise if you ever are being 478 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: taken and they put I would tell my daughter this, 479 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: which is horrible, but I was like, listen, if anyone. 480 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: Ever tells you to be quiet with it going to 481 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: hurt you. They want you need to out. 482 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: You need to do the exact opposite of what they're 483 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: telling because they're trying to get you quiet, to get 484 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: you away from a crowd where bad things can happen. 485 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: So you want to make as much noise as possible. 486 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: I tell my daughter that's the only time you could kick, scream, bite, 487 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: and like make the most noise as possible. Anyway, that's 488 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: for kids, And I'm digressing. So let me get to 489 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: some of these questions. Many of us hear the term 490 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: human trafficking and immediately think taken by Liam Neeson. 491 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: Not really. 492 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean again, that happens, but not it's not the majority. 493 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: It's more luring people into them by using different means. 494 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: I started a foundation for a slavery free world. So 495 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: what can our listeners do to help the fight? Well, 496 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: I mean lots of things. First of all, educate yourself. 497 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: Please listen to I have a podcast out called marisonal 498 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: Nicholas Podcast. I have different experts on there, all the 499 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: way from the National Center from miss and Exploited Children. 500 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: That's a phenomenal episode. 501 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: If you want to know. 502 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: Who those guys are, the acronym is nick MAK National 503 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: Center for Missing Children, right or Missing and Exploited Children, 504 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: And they're the milk carton guys. They're the ones that 505 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: put out the missing children posters and they have an 506 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: entire trafficking division because what they found was that the 507 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: missing kids were now showing up on this side of 508 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: the equation. So they have an entire staff that's dedicated 509 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: to just finding where these kids are. They're phenomenal resource 510 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: u missingkids dot org is their their website. They're phenomenal, 511 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: But educate yourself. I've got different experts on there for 512 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: a reason to talk about different sides of this thing, right, 513 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: including survivors that have gotten out of this and been 514 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: able to escape. 515 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: So to me, education is prevention. 516 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: And listen to your instinct, listen to your gut instinct 517 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: and talk to your children or have your children watch 518 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: the podcast, like just so they understand. Right, there's an 519 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: episode on there with Sheriff Chris Wantson for the season 520 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: that we just put on there, and it was the 521 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: story of a I think it was a thirteen year 522 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: old girl who met a guy on freaking Instagram. Older 523 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: man pretending to be a younger man, convinced her to 524 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: sneak out of her parents' house, grabbed her, took her 525 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: to a hotel, did not so nice, horrible things to her, 526 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: filmed it because that's what these guys love to do, 527 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: and then dropped her back off and the parents the 528 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: next day could tell that something was very very very wrong, 529 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: took her to the hospital, found out and within the 530 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: I think it was like within three days, this guy 531 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: had done this in three different states, Like this is 532 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: all he does. So it's more than just don't talk 533 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: to strangers. It's do not talk to strangers online. It's 534 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: a different thing. One of the things I would tell 535 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: my daughter when she was younger, I would say, if 536 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: you ever get into trouble and like, don't necessarily go 537 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: to a law enforcement if you can, yes, but find 538 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: a mom with kids. 539 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: Find a mom or dad. 540 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: With kids, because there's also women in this industry. That's 541 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: really That's the one that kills me and breaks my 542 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: heart every single time is when I say a female trafficker. 543 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: They exist, So find a mom with kids. That mom 544 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: will know what to do. 545 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: Always tell your kids these things, these sort of safety things. 546 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: And what I did was I wanted to make it 547 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: because I didn't want my kid afraid. Right, It's a 548 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: fine line between protecting your children and overwhelming them with 549 00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: way too much information that's going to wreck them, you know, mentally. 550 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: So I would always point out, like, look about eighty 551 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: percent of anyone you meet, and all the people are 552 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: going to be good people always, but about twenty percent 553 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: are going to be bad guys. And the bad guys 554 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: work very hard to not look like bad guys, so 555 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: they look like the good guys, so you can't tell, right, 556 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: And even though there's only a small amount of them, 557 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: you still have to protect yourself from the bad guys. 558 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: That's all. I wasn't like, Hey, they take these kids 559 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: and they go do X, Y and Z to them. 560 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 2: Never instinctly, my kid knew exactly what I meant by 561 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: bad guy, Like they know these. 562 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: Things, so you know, and I would always be like, good, 563 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: so what do you do? What's my phone number? Good? Good? 564 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: What do you do if someone tries to grab you? Okay, 565 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: I screamed my up? 566 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: Good? What do you do if someone you know, the 567 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: old thing candy or a puppy to pet, or needs 568 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: directions or wants to go into the store with them? 569 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do? What do 570 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: you do? What do you do? And just drill drill, drill, 571 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: drill drill. There's also different things like on. 572 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: For older an older population, you know, eighteen nineteen twenty, 573 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: young moms, that kind of thing for them, the traffickers 574 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: and these bad guys and the predators, be very careful 575 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: on dating apps. There's been many, many, many cases where 576 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: predators would date a mom just to get to her kid. 577 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: So you have to be very very careful about that, 578 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: and just like, trust your instincts on these things, like 579 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: if you're ever afraid to walk to your car at night, 580 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: or you have a car and you're parked in a 581 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: lot and then all of a sudden, there's like not 582 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: many other cars in the lot, but somebody pulled right 583 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: next to you. 584 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Ask someone to walk you to your car. 585 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: You don't want to be walking in between the cars 586 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: opening your door when they can just open the door 587 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: and grab you right there. Like, trust your instincts. They're 588 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: there for a reason, you know. Anyway, Again, even with adults, 589 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: I have found eighty percent of people are wonderful and 590 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: good and amazing, amazing people and twenty percent of the 591 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: bad guys. And that is just how it is. And 592 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: you can't tell I've met. 593 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: Traffickers that you would never know. 594 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: You would never know, personable females you would never know 595 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: that they were doing this is It is astonishing except 596 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: for that hitchy feeling where there's something off. 597 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: That I could tell. But that's about it. 598 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go back to let's do the acting, 599 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: because this has been a little bit a lot. Sorry, 600 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: you've been working actress from a very young age. Talk 601 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: about how you balance work with this level of activism. Well, okay, So, 602 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: like I said, I would go and do these things 603 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: sometimes when I was on Riverdale, and it depends on 604 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: the schedule, it depends on if I can or not. 605 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: And it's gotten me through, you know, acting Like anything else, 606 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: it's got its ups and downs, right, and it's got 607 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 2: its amazing periods where you're super busy, and then it's 608 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: got its dry periods where you always are like, oh 609 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: my god, am I ever going to work again? 610 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: Always like always. 611 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: And so having my nonprofit and doing this type of work, 612 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: it's such a strong purpose of mind to do it 613 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: that it's sometimes even more important to me than the 614 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: acting side of things. But the acting side of things 615 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: gives me a voice and gives me a large audience 616 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: and opens up more doors, and so it's sort of 617 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: balancing those two things together, if that, If that makes sense. Gosh, 618 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: I have no idea how long I've been talking or anything. 619 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 2: I think I still have some much some more time. 620 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: But it was funny that the acting things would sometimes 621 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: become less important then my other activist work because it's 622 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: real human beings. I mean, this is real people and 623 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 2: every time when I would get asked to go out, 624 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: I would I mean. 625 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Like every time, I'd be like, what am I doing? 626 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: What am I doing? What am I doing? What am 627 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I doing? 628 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: And the whole reason I would do it was because 629 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 2: I would go, well, if my daughter was in this situation, 630 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: I would want I would want someone to come and 631 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: take the chance and help her get out. And that's 632 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: and I mean, and I don't want anyone to think 633 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: that by doing this work. 634 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: Like it is terrifying. 635 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: I am terrified every single time, this last one that 636 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 2: I did, which is about it's been about a year 637 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: and a half now maybe two years that I've gone out. 638 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: Since I've gone out, which is great, I was like, 639 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: this is what am I doing? This is too it's 640 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: so scary, and my daughter's relying on me to come 641 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: back from these things, and so it's been sort of 642 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: a catch twenty two like if I can help and 643 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: you absolutely need my skill set or you need me, 644 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: I'll be there as long as you can protect me 645 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: and as long as you get me home to my daughter. 646 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: But otherwise I just try to work on legislation, work 647 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 2: on reaching people, work on mandatory. I want mandatory trafficking 648 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: education in every single school in America per age level, 649 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: like different tips for kids at grade school, tips for 650 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: kids at junior high, high school, college mandatory mandatory, because 651 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: this is too big of an issue to not be 652 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: preventative on this. 653 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I answer the question. 654 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: But I could talk on and on and on about 655 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: about this, and I just I guess my goal, if 656 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: anyone would ever ask, it's to have human trafficking be 657 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: something you learn about in the history books, where it's 658 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 2: something that is abolished, it's done, it's eradicated, and it's 659 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: just something that we go, wow, how did howether that 660 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 2: many people enslaved and most people didn't even know it. 661 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: I want it to be a past tense thing. I 662 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 2: want to not have to do the work. I want 663 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: to be able to close down my nonprofit because it's 664 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: done within my lifetime. That's that's what I want. 665 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: I want. 666 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: I want the childhood that I used to have for 667 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: my grandkids, where I could go out so the street 668 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: lights came on and come home and it was no 669 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: big deal and I don't have to worry about it. 670 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: I would never, in. 671 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: A million, trillion zillion years, let my kid go outside 672 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: by herself. Ever, like now she's sixteen, different story, but 673 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: like there's it's just it's a different world and I 674 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 2: want that old world back. That's what I'm going for. 675 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm going for to reverse this. You know, so things 676 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 2: like this just don't happen. Let me see if there's 677 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: any other questions I have my Oh okay, so I 678 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: have a projects coming out. I have a movie with 679 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: Jenna Ortega. If you know who she is, she you 680 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 2: know Beetlejuice. She was the star of the new Beetle 681 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: Juice movie and a bunch of other things. Everyone just 682 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: google Jena Ortega if you don't know. I play her 683 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: mom in a movie coming out called Winter Spring Summer Fall. 684 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: And then I also have a movie being made about 685 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: what I do. It's called Somebody's Daughter. 686 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: And what happened was Marie Claire, which is a fashion magazine, 687 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: shadowed me on a weekend op that I did with 688 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: the sheriff in Flint, Michigan. And then after that weekend, 689 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 2: they you know, did a giant spread about the stuff 690 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: that they do, and that thing went viral. It went 691 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: everywhere during COVID everyone their mother picked it up, like 692 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: it's crazy. It was like it was crazy. But anyway, 693 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: long story short, Sony stepped up and they're like, we 694 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: want to tell your story. And so now that's turned 695 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: into a movie for Lifetime called Somebody's Daughter, and it's 696 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 2: literally about a single mom who's also an actress who 697 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: also falls into this world of trafficking. So we are 698 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: hopefully starting to film in about the next two months 699 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 2: and then it's up to Lifetime when they come out, 700 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: but please look for it. 701 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: I love the title. It's called Somebody's Daughter. And if you. 702 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: Follow me on social media, my name is Marisol Nichols 703 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: on every single one of my channels, whether it's X 704 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: or Facebook or Instagram or whatever, and I'll obviously promote 705 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 2: it there. 706 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: So I think that's about it. 707 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: I think I've talked a lot about this issue. I 708 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: hope I didn't overwhelm any of you. I hope that 709 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: I inspired you to talk to your friends and family 710 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: to get yourself educated. And please know that again, the 711 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: world is beautiful. I'm talking about a small percentage of situations, 712 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: but it's enough of a percentage that I would never 713 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: want anyone else caught up in it. So that's why 714 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: I do the work that I do thank you for 715 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: listening to this episode of Let's Be Clearer, and again, 716 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 2: I hope it helps you to get involved in anything 717 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: that touches your heart. 718 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: I'm Marison Nichols. Until next time,