WEBVTT - EP 110 The Maino Episode 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.720 When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton Watts 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.680 Bank to l A, come on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 it rail on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.160 into Gangster Chronicles Gangster the Goals. We're gonna tell you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.480 how we go. If I lie my nose will girl 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.720 like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.640 but the truth. Gangster Chronicals. This is not your average show. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.680 You're now tuned into the Rail m c A, Bick 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:44.920 James and Bix Fails from the Streets. Hello, Welcome to 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.840 the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.000 and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.680 I Heart Apple, subscribe to the Gainst Chronicles for my 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.600 Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen, Subscribe 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.600 to Against the Chronicles and leave a five star rate 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.960 in the comment. We to welcome everyone to another episode 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:07.280 Against the Chronicles podcasting with My Homeboys and Man to Day. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.840 We got a special special guest man. We got the 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.280 homeboy may No Man All the Way man from New 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.200 York Man, you know NYC man. That's my spot man. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.840 That's my second home. Man, shout out, what's up? Man? 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.759 You know what's good? What's up? What's up? Fellas are 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.160 you doing? And we're good? Man? Man, we just out 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.880 of your chilling man, you know doing what it is 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.000 we do. Man, I just want to say this. You 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.160 got quite the reputation out there. You want the real 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.600 ones for show? Hey man, you know that. I mean, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.360 we come from real place, you know what I mean. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:38.959 And anything we had to do, we just had to 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.520 do it, you know. You know what I'm saying. And 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.600 since since we keep it all the way g on 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.480 the show, we ain't gonna talk about none of the 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.720 beat downs with the smackings that don't happen in the past, 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.920 you know what I mean. But one thing we alas 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.200 gonna go back to. We gonna go way way back man, 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:55.240 because um, you did a bid. We're gonna go tip 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:59.680 a drug dealer. So what you did a bid for? 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.520 You know back in the day, you know you did 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.520 a bid. You did a bid. Man out there, you 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.840 know it's gonna execute something that didn't go quite as 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.960 as you playing. But when you was locked up, you 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.720 found out that you had some special attributes about yourself. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.280 You actually learned how to rap in a hole. That's right. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.239 That's a fact. That's a fact. I never I never 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:27.440 had no you know, inspirational thoughts about being a rapper. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.120 I was always a fan. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.960 I was a fan of music period. You know, you know, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.919 um when the West Coast started to take off, and 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.800 you know, I was in prison when when m C eight, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.760 you know, and um, you know Minister Society came out. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:45.880 You know, we was, we was all fans of that. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.240 We we we we watched Tupac Rise, we watched everything 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.040 happened in the Death Row and all that, you know. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.160 But I wasn't inspired to ever be an artist. I 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.320 didn't start rapping as I was actually, you know, in 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.800 a in a hole one of these times, and you know, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.919 spending a year in there, and you know some guys 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.560 that was rapping on the gate and it was a 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.400 Friday night, and I just was just like, man, you 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.600 know what the next you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.760 get up the next morning and write me my first rhyme, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.079 and I just I started just to do it out 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.640 of out of boardom just just the past the time. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.680 So that's how I started to develop and do that. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.600 Oh yeah, man, I know coming from the streets, man, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.080 real street niggas kind of looked down on ravers, you know, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.480 real street niggas. Sol did any of your homies trip 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:31.960 on you when you came home talking But I'm gonna 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:33.280 be a rapper now? Was They kind of like, man, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.560 what then you're talking about man rapping? See, that's that's 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.240 the thing. Like, So I come from a place where 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.640 it wasn't fashionable to be a rapper. It was like rapper, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:48.680 you rap, nigger rapper. So it was I had I 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.680 had to keep it a secret for my guys, you know, 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.960 and and I had to keep it. You know. I 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.720 just wasn't coming on the yard and just rapping because 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.960 you know, it was just not the thing to be 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.880 doing because like I said, you mean, we know, it 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.720 wasn't always fashionable to be that. You know. I never 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.840 looked up to artists in that way. I never looked 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.000 I never idolized rappers in that way. I didn't look 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.640 at rappers and want to beat them, you know what 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.960 I mean. I was more infatuated with the other side 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:18.440 of things. And you know, so so what I did 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.080 was because I didn't want to just spring that on 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.679 my homies. I kept it. I kept it to myself 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.600 for as long as I could. And and I you know, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.520 and because you know, my niggas loved me, so you 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.240 know it was I got to a point where I 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.520 was like, yo, I think we could do music as 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.400 a as a hustle. So I had to present it 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.000 to them like as an idea of a hustle, as 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.160 an idea for us to try something different, because now 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.599 we're in our twenties and it's like, you know, we've 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.680 been out here doing all this ship for all these years. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.440 You know, we were throwing our lives away. Let's try 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.880 to do something different, you know. We we we've seen 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.719 what when music has done for you know, for hustlers 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.960 and dudes like like holding up, Like we could do 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.680 the same thing. We come from the same neighborhood as 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.160 like Big In and J C and stuff like that, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.680 so we could why not, you know, and a lot 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:10.400 of a lot of cats um come from the street aspect. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.880 I mean, we looked at that ship as a hustle. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.520 You know. It's a way to not get caught up 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.280 by the one time, you know, a serving or serving 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.359 ya on the corner, fucking when we serve some rhymes, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.760 because I see niggas is making money from that ship. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.520 And especially if I can talk about the neighborhood and 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.800 put some tails in the streets of ship, we do 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.240 on that aspect. So it becomes to the hussle like 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:40.240 the d you feel me exactly exactly, So why you 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.520 can't be a gangster and start rapping and you just 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.760 said one of those real cats that's on some real 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.320 gangster ship and the ship that you're spending out there, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.159 people perceive that because they know what type of cat 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.440 you is. So why you couldn't just bam, just be 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.760 that nigga? I mean, you know you you are who 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.240 you are no matter what you put on later on, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.480 you are who you are. So if your core is 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.919 you know you you're a stand up dude, and you 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.640 won't be a stand up dude no matter how you 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.200 how you uh, you know how you put it. But 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.520 to me in the beginning, it was it was just 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.840 the way I just had a I guess, you know, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.920 um insecurity on how I thought people would perceive me, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:25.920 you know, and plus I wish I was a lot younger, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.880 you know, Um, but you are who you are after 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.880 a wild though. When when when the music starts to 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.279 become profitable and you start to make some ways? You 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.560 can't do both though, Oh for sure, it's definitely hard. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.640 You gotta pick a side at some point. I mean, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.480 you are who you are as a man. But at 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.440 some point, you know, when it becomes a business for you, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.479 you have to. You have to. You have to pick 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:57.120 one one hat over the other. Yeah, man, And that's 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.280 the thing, man, I want to go back. Man, when 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.320 you first got locked up, man, because you know that's 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.440 on this show, man, That's what we talked about. Man, 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.719 we try to really Kelly's young niggas. This out here 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.440 ain't nothing inside of that motherfucker. Everything's going on out 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.080 here really. You know you're trying to go in there 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.640 so bad just to try to get a reputation and everything. Man, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.200 when you first got locked up, man, what was going 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:20.920 through your mind? Man? When you like, what the funk? 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:22.760 I can't believe I'm cut up in this dumb ship. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.680 Um See for me, I was I was, you know, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.160 for lack of better words, I was I was at 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.560 risk youth, so I had been getting in trouble basically, 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.480 for a great a great portion of my young life. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.720 I had been going and you know, been in you know, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.560 juvenile detention and you know division for you and group 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.480 homes and you know a d T schools and stuff 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.320 or whatever they had for you. Like I have been 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:53.000 gone through that already. Spaw fit um. So you know, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.000 you know, growing up the way I grew up, you know, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:02.760 going to prison almost felt like you expected it because 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.640 it was everything that you've seen around you. You know, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.280 all of the dudes that you respected have been in jail. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.000 Everybody that I looked up to have been in jail. Um, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.400 And you almost expected to be one day in that 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.520 situation because it becomes natural because of the environment that 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.880 you win. Because the environment is aggressive. The environment is 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.360 is violent. You're selling growths, were shooting, and the police 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.640 is gonna come at some point. We expected. Um. But 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.520 my prison experience, I hated prison every day. But you 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.760 know I got into a lot of trouble in there. Um. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.160 I am gonna hold you. You know, I got into 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.800 a lot of trouble when I was in prison. I 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:48.080 was in over ten different prisons, some of them twice 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.080 while I was in prison. And that's a hell of 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.400 a lot of different prisons to being you know. So 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.240 that's just a testament of how much trouble I I 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.800 used to get into. You know, I spent almost four 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.480 years in solitary can from it. So I was I 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.680 was a knucklehead, you know what I mean? And you 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.760 know I wasn't. I was definitely not one of the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.760 you know, one of the model inmates. You understand, you know, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.400 I stayed and I stayed in the ship so um, 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.320 but I hated and I hated it every day of it. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.040 And I knew that I wouldn't um when I whenever 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.600 I did leave prison, I knew that I wouldn't leave 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.839 my spirit in there, you know what I mean, I 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.280 wouldn't do. I wouldn't do. So I had us about 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.400 who I was. I wasn't gonna come to jail and 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.199 become something that I wasn't. I wasn't gonna come to 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.240 jail become and involved myself with you know, homosexuality, involved 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.520 myself with and become a drug addict, you know, become up, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.200 become a jail house snitch like these. Because I felt 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.079 like if I did any one of those things that 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.400 I would be leaving my spirit in prison. So you know, 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.439 I still tall. I did whatever I had to do. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.680 Um you know, I shook it up many many many 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.560 times with many men, and and I'm and I'm here, 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.120 and I'm here to show it with all my scars, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:01.720 bro Blessed. I mean, that's that's the transition that we 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.320 we like to present the people, you know what I'm saying, 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:08.079 because they hear there, they hear gangster chronicles, and they 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.640 feel like we want to advocate for all the negative 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.480 ship that we that that that comes with that word. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.960 But like I tell people when we conversate with Needers 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.120 on this show, it's about the transition and coming out 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.120 on the other side, you know, doing that. You know, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.839 a lot of us was products of our environment of 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.720 living that bluff life or gangster ship or selling dope 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.560 or whatever. But to be able to stand here today, 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.480 you know what I'm saying, it's a lot of ship 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.040 that motherfucker's don't damn. You ain't supposed to be here today. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.920 You give me, you're still supposed to be We're supposed 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.600 to still be in prison for about twenty something more years, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.680 or we're supposed to be underground, you feeling, so to 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:52.320 be able to show people that it's like myself, like you, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.160 like James, that we're able to come through the other 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.840 side clean. You know what I'm saying. Uh, it's just 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.240 the positive impact that we try to let people see 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.480 on gangster chronicles and then we're able to be strong 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.079 black men today and not be mislaid by pitfalls of 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.040 the neighborhood. You know, because as young dudes, we all 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:14.040 see that ship is glamorized of banging or representing or 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.240 being like you said that knuckle, especially as a young 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.319 motherfucker going to prison. You know, that's like earning your 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.280 stripes right there. It is, it is, and then you 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.440 know you're you're impressionable, and you know, you know like 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.160 you you're impressionable. And then you know, you know one thing, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:34.760 like I'm not letting nobody hurt me. I'm not about 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.560 to be you know, I was. I was. I thought 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.520 I was somebody in the street, you know what I mean. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.320 I thought I had a reputation in the street. I'm 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.000 gonna protect that in here. All means you know what 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.800 I mean? And what what you you? You you live 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.920 and you learn and the thing about growing is that 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:51.800 you once you get an opportunity to live and you 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.480 see how important life is. And then you see how 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.480 you know, some of the things that you thought and 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.600 some of the feelings that you had really wasn't really 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.640 what it was. But you just needed that time. You 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.040 just needed the opportunity to live a little so you 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.720 can broad in your mind and you can level up, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.760 and you can you can look back on your on 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.040 your younger years. You can look back in your teenage 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.120 years and you can see that, man I was, I was. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:18.040 I was so destructive, you know. I you know, that 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.920 really wasn't the right way to go. And you know 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.760 so now when you you know, like myself, I got 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.480 an eighteen ye old son, So now I was imprisoned 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.760 by the time I was an eighteen you know. So 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:31.840 I because of my experience, I can better, you know, 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.280 got him because I know the pitfalls. I understand what 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.840 it what it feels like to be a young teenage 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.679 black male trying to find yourself, you know. And he 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.240 got it way easier than I did. So you know, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.400 it gives me that much more of an inspiration to 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.200 be to be here and and and to maintain what 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.600 I'm doing and keep it pushing. Bro. Yeah, it's especially 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.800 in hip hop man, because what I've been seeing over 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.520 the this treeing over like the last teen years, man, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.600 and where you got a whole lot of talented young 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.560 artists that's going to prison. Like you just had Bobby's 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.960 murder on your show. You know, he had tied his career. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.040 He got this big gass record that don't took off, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.720 and he couldn't even enjoy the fruits of his labor. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.280 And I'm pretty sure the Ricord company could have posted 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.480 a bill for this nigga did something for what they 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.120 don't do ship. They kind of turned their back on 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.920 him and then profited off all the chaos. You know 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.400 what I mean? Why do that? Dumb? Why do that? 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.680 I think if if if you turn yourself, you start 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.560 doing wrap and then you're good at it, and then 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.840 you go in the street. Just like you said earlier, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.800 you can't do both. You can't be a gangster and 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.240 and wrap it at the same time. Do what you 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.880 do and and now you got an opportunity to leave 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.240 that ship alone. So that's when we should know. Okay, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.079 I got a bag up from your fellas, and everybody 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.959 that's in your corner should should have your back at 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.840 that time when you try to transition from a gangster 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.920 to to wrapping to make money, So why go belly 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.120 mana jail that that only enhanced how he think? So 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.599 you think they should have left the young brother and 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.240 then they did well, well, well, well, well, not to 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:09.200 cut you off, but specific to bothering them situation, A 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.600 lot of a lot of what was going on with 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:16.000 them was that they they had already had issues and 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.960 it was already you know, um underinvestigation way before he 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.000 even popped off. So you know, it was a likely 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.680 like a you know, a likely chance that he was 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.200 already gonna be on that path to go to go 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.200 to prison anyway, because they was already on him. I 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.320 think the issue is is when artists have the opportunity 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.520 to become artists to get money to you know, to 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.120 to to feed their families, and then become criminals later, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:50.000 that is hustling backwards. Because I always felt like, you know, 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.960 we was in the street not because we wanted to be, 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.720 because we adapted to whatever whatever environment was. If you 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.240 speak to any any any real dude you know that's 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.600 actually really be active in the streeting it, whether he 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.720 and his late twenties or early thirties. He don't really 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.160 want to be there. He don't really want to be there, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.240 Like like we did what we had to do because 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.120 we felt we adapted to our environment. We became savage 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.160 because that was a response to our environment. Like how 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.320 do you how do you get an opportunity to become 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.000 a star and then become a criminal later on? Like that, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.600 to me, it is kind of productive. That ain't really 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.440 what it was because you had every opportunity to be 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.000 what you say you is now prior to that, and 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:36.520 he wasn't participate, you know. So I think that that's 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.360 with the with the differences is when we see a 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.120 lot of these young dudes become something that they really 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.920 wasn't laid on. Yeah, you see it all day like um, 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.240 and that's more the thing like you said, Bobby, And 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.760 then was in the streets and I know a lot. 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.640 I'm pretty tapped me in out this, so I know 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.720 they was already doing their thing because Glasses was telling 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.280 me about them litt niggas. I managed Glasses Malone and 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.400 he was telling me about them little nigga's way before 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.320 they pop thought and he was going out there messing 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.120 with him and stuff. So my My thing is this, Um, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.080 I see a lot of cats out here. Now. My 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.920 problem is with the guys that make it then decide 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.240 to come then decide, oh, I'm gonna beat this gamester. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:13.760 I'm gonna go get jumped in and I'm gonna go 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:15.880 to the coast. You see these cats all the time, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.360 come out here and get caught up in that ship. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:18.880 They get caught up in the game ship. They come 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:20.200 out here and they get on with a bunch of 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.600 niggas that really ain't working with them like that. But 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.120 they got money and they got some influence, and before 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.040 you know what, they're getting their cribs broken too, and 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.200 ship and all the little funny ships start happening and everything. Um, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:33.880 do you ever try to holler at some of these 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.720 niggas mainly wanta tell them, man, look you're hustling backwards. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.160 I mean, you know you gotta you gotta be careful 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.760 you know how you give your advice, you know what 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.800 I mean, because you don't. You always want to maintain 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.840 a respect level. You know, you you just can't be 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.120 the nigga just running around passing on advice because then 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.880 you're just like you know, niggas could see that as 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.160 you being just too preachy, you know what I mean. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.520 But for the ones that I actually have relationships with, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.080 for the ones that you know that we actually call 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.639 each other and we actually you don't spend time around 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.920 each other, you know. Of course, we get into conversations 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.800 where you know, I try to tell them that the 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.000 opportunity is greater than the problem, and I try to 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.600 give them life lessons and stuff like that. You know. Yeah, 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.919 And I think the biggest thing you know, in talking 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.080 to talking to the big broke James all the time, 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.719 and just different castes. I know, Man, it seems like 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.160 the hardest part man, for a guy that's come out 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.960 of prisoners, standing out of prison. Indeed, indeed, I got 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.320 a book, um that I'm coming out with soon. Um 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:37.760 it should have been out. I've been working on this 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.960 but for so long. You know. It's called the Auto Freedom. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.000 And what you just said is a testament to you know, um, 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.320 something that a lot of people not talking about, you know, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.480 the conversation about prison reform and reforming you know, repealing 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.080 laws and all that is is is a great thing, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.359 but there's there's also the conversation that I don't feel 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.160 like we're havn't enough, and that's the conversation of all 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.360 dudes are actually not knowing what to do when they 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.520 get back, you understand, and not having as many options, 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.280 not having so many opportunities, And a lot of it 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.480 starts with the way you're thinking, you know. So I 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.280 put together a book, you know, it's sort of like 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.000 my version of a of a forty eight Laws of power, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.639 you know, but it's based it's me speaking to my 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.240 street niggas and my niggas that just you know, either 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.800 it just came home or was about to come home, 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.439 and it's my philosophy and my views on on on 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.000 the steps that I feel like should be taken or 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.160 could be taken to maintain your freedom. You know, because 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.640 before you can be successful at any anything, whether it's 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.760 some rap shit or anything to do with entertainment or 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.800 whatever it is, you gotta be successful at being free. 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.800 So a lot of that start with the way you think, 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.960 and the way you think about your moves, and where 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.000 you think about your freedom, and the way you're position yourself. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.600 You know, it's going to determine how you how you 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.480 you know, how you how you turn out because how 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.560 many of us have been been watching dudes go to 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.080 prison for the last twenty years or whatever, you know 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.760 what I mean, and he just can't get it right. So, um, 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.440 that's something that I that I'm that I'm coming out 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.919 with soon. Well, it's almost designed for him not to 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.600 get it right. You figured. You get a cat that 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.679 comes home, you know, especially the homies that's been in 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.360 for ten or more years, even five years, you come out, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:24.119 it's a whole different motherfucking world you're behind. Yeah, what 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.040 what makes you makes you wake up? It's not even 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:32.840 that it is I call a penitentiary propaganda. Uh. You 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.240 make a lot of a lot of this. You make 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.480 a lot of I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.880 that when you're in the penitentiary or ain't coming back 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.240 here no more. You make a lot of promises to yourself. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:50.720 But when you smell the different air, when you smell freedom, 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.480 you you're going right back to where you came from. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:56.479 And a lot of us don't pay attention. Before I 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.360 walk out of this door, I've really got to make 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.040 this decision and where I'm gonna go this way out 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.719 that way. Nine times out of the time we are 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.960 thinking like that because I didn't did through years sitting down. 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.840 The first thing I want to do is go get 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.000 up in something next, gonna hang with the homies that 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.440 everybody know them out. Now once you do that, everybody 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.119 coming to you on the homies. Just get out of 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:22.520 the prison. Now you feel like that penitentiary celebrity. You 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.320 feel me now out Now you're hanging and before you 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.280 know it, you can't. You can't grab that grip again 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:34.000 and saying, Okay, damn, I'm supposed to be following protocol 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:35.800 and I said I was gonna do this and do that. 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.200 You ain't thinking like that. No more penitentiary propaganda. Thinking 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.720 about one thing. But you've got something else on your mind, 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.679 and that's the homies, that's the hood, that's the chicks. 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.520 Now you get somebody to lace you with a little 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.080 something something here, This will hold you over. Now you 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.760 all you you're back in the streets. You know what 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.320 I'm saying. And before you knew it, you're on the violation. 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.320 Now you're down. That propaganda is coming right back. Hear you. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.600 I shouldn't have did this. When I come home after 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.320 this year two years, I ain't gonna do this. And 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.360 then you find yourself right back in the same ship. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.440 So it's pretty much lying to yourself while we're in prison, 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.560 and then when we get out of prison, we're so 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:19.159 happy to be free, we go right back to the 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.879 same bullshit. So being in prison, you gotta be honest 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.600 with yourself, and you gotta know where you want to 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.000 go once that gate open and they give you that 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.600 little money to walk out of there. I've seen it done, 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:33.960 I've done it. I've been out of prison since the 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.480 night and haven't seen one since. So I know, and 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.720 I knew, and no female gonna bring me back to prison, 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.320 and I ain't gonna let the homies bring me back 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.440 to prison because there's nothing in there. Once the CAVI. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.680 Once you realize that, I can't nobody send you back 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:55.760 to prison but yourself. M yeah, because once once you 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:58.320 realize the kind of the cards that stacked again, the 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.760 deck is stacked against you anyway, because you figured you 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.080 get a nigger to come home, right, he got every 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.119 intention he gonna get back with his baby mom's. He 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.199 gonna go find him a job. He gonna get him 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.800 in this little job. Right. You gotta lie on the 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:11.399 application because they ask you, have you ever been a 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.520 felon and you know, so you you haven't been told 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.440 no so many times, you finally say, fucking I'm gonna 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.160 putting on this motherfuckering See what happened. So you're working 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.840 at the job, you get you a little gig. You're 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.320 there for two or three months, and they come back 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.199 and say, hey, um, yeah, your background check done, came 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.280 back funked up. You gotta go. So you're doing this 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.520 two or three times. You get frustrated because you gotta 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.200 broad at home and she's been holding you down, probably 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.120 sending your commissaries ship all this time. So now you're 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.560 at home. You ain't became nothing but another bill for 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.760 this woman. At this point, she's taking care of the kids, 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.520 she's taking care of this you know. Now she's taking 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.639 care of you. So it's like, you gonna go do 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.399 whatever the hell you gotta go do. You gonna have 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.280 to Hony frank you a sack. You're gonna go do 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:48.880 what you gotta do. The next thing you know, you're 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.440 back in there. It's almost like the whole probation ship, 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.280 and we don't talk about that a whole bunch of times, 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:58.520 and this show it's like a big trick bag Wow, 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.640 that's what that's Well, you gotta look at it though. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.280 You know when you come home the peniti you're still 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.560 gonna wear sooner or later. Yeah, it's gonna be sucking 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.640 her like you because your fresh out. Um, she's gonna 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.560 get tired of that and she's gonna be used to it, 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.000 so she goes back to the same ship she's doing. 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.000 Who want to take care of her own as man? 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:21.520 And so we gotta figure out us being black people. 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.240 We don't want to work at taco bit. We ain't 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.320 gonna work at the bullshit. That's a job. Not thinking 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.960 I'm just coming from the penitentiary. I'm gonna take whatever 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.440 the funk I can get and I'm wanting them cats. 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:34.120 I'm not doing that, that and that if you come 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.280 from that the hood, like yeah, I got a name 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.920 and you're supposed to be something ship, So you're resulting 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.600 in the fun that something to go back to the exactly, 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.720 come on, that's what you want to go back to. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.640 So coming home and then trying to do security being 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:54.880 a security guard at at Walmart at night are somewhere 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.680 like that. It's only gonna last ninety days because you've 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:02.480 got a record and I was lucky because here comes 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.439 should you know what I'm saying. They ain't gotta they 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.159 ain't gotta put on the uniform, but the uniform I 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.359 got exactly my my my representation from the neighborhood is 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.280 my application. That's verified. I ain't have to fill out 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.879 ship and you don't have to do too much of nothing. 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.760 But then that type of ship to send you back 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.000 to the penitentiary because going into the industry on the 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.440 on the outside of it, I'm not a rapper, just 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.000 just a force. You know what I'm saying, can send 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.840 you back to prison. But no, if if, if, if 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:36.800 it's here in humantality, I'm not going back to prison, 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.919 and I can't let down when you catch send me 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.760 back to prison. Then that that makes you above the 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.239 rest of them, because this is where everybody thinks we're 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.760 supposed to go. I'm not following you there. Yeah, you know, 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.160 and speaking of you know, speaking of Sugar and all 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:54.080 of them, Man, you got a solid reputation. I got 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.040 a whole bunch, we got a whole bunch of mutual 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.959 homies and stuff. And I told him, I said, hey, man, 0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.440 we go how that. Mainly it was like that's gonna 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.159 be a good dude, y'all show, you know, talking him 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.480 about this net and everything. What do you feel about 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.040 the rise of the gangs in New York? Not that 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.600 you gotta you know, I ain't necessarily an opinion, But 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.760 that's kind of crazy, ain't it. Yeah? You see, it 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.919 started in prison. I was in prison when it started, 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:18.360 and I understood why it was starting, you know, Um, 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.600 you know it was it was a time when um, 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.119 you know a lot of the Hispanic brothers, you know, 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.359 they was ganged up and you know it was it was, 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.160 it was it was an error where you know it 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:35.199 was it was it was more or less kind of 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.159 dumb against blacks and we wasn't unified. So um, for 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.960 my understanding, you know, and Cet, a couple of brothers 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.080 got together and was just like, Yo, we're gonna, we're gonna, 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.600 we're gonna ban together and and that's that was the 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.720 start of the Bloods and it and it became what 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.760 it became. So I understood what it what it was for. 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.159 And you know that that unity that that was needed 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:03.760 in that era. Um, you know, it became, it became 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.879 what it became. You know. I never I never was 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.600 involved with the gangs, because that's not the ver I 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:15.000 really come from, you know. Um, I'm just maybe a 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.359 couple of years before that, you know, and it was 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:19.520 it was cool to be able to stand on your 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.159 own and have your name on your own and not 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.200 need nobody or not, you know, not go to jail 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:27.359 and become this or become that. You know. So, uh, 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.040 it is what it is right now, bro, Like you 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.360 know what I mean, I wish it was a lot 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.600 more leadership though, you know, I wish, you know, especially 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.560 in my part of town. Like I wish it was 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.040 a lot more solid leadership, you know, because there's a 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.040 lot of things that I feel like they can do. Uh, 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.840 and it could be more more useful doing, you know, 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.840 if it was if the leadership was better. Yeah, I 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.080 feel that, man. And that's I think that's all around 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.200 the country, dog because these you know, these these young niggers, man, 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.760 they kind of think different, not kind of they think different. 0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.760 I think they do before they think. You feel what 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.600 I'm in And when you don't have that big homie 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.000 kind of leading you, it ain't numb but destruction and 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.560 death to fund him, guarantee. But that's right. See, we 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.440 was young niggas, and we didn't. We didn't, we didn't 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.879 think you know, So I understand that aspect of it, 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.880 you know, but when nowadays, when it when the when 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.320 the big homie is not is not even as smart 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:24.920 or as intelligent as the as the little homies, then 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.240 what what do you have? So when your big homie 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:32.200 is never never amounted to anything, it's never you know, uh, 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.919 surpassed things in life or is not experienced enough in life, 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.199 then then all you're gonna have is destruction, you know, 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.400 And all he's been doing all his life is spinning 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.800 in destructing, then that's all he gonna So he's gonna 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:47.760 get food too, so he's gonna give birth to the 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.600 same thing. Yeah, it's the blind leading the blind. And 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.520 you know, really with the aspect because you know, like 0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.879 I said, we are always young niggas. At one time 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.639 and as far as we was on the West Coast, 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:04.600 we didn't have you know what you would call that 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:09.000 that that leader structure in the games and ship. I mean, 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.840 even though we were all together, it was like you know, 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.280 you stand on your own. Even though we watched each 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.119 other back and we together ship, we didn't have like 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.840 just one main motherfucker controlling or structuralized in the neighborhood game. 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.840 So I think as far as we were on the 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.840 West Coast, it was different from us, way different. We 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.520 had big homies. You're gonna always have big homies because 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.240 you you got those guys, you followed us older than you. 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.120 But other than that, we never had somebody to shake, 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.640 y'all gonna go over here, y'all this now, I wouldn't 0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:49.440 having that. Some neighborhoods, some neighborhoods did, but like my neighborhood, 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:54.880 we didn't have that. Like the markets nuns of of yesteryear, 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:59.239 back in the days, they were leaders. They were the 0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:04.080 ones that put certain things together for their neighborhoods, and 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:08.040 and a lot of cats followed followed that. But in 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.480 my neighborhood, we didn't have the O G that's that's 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.600 putting the ship together. The majority of our ogs work 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.080 on some other ship going back and forth to prison 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:22.560 just on GP. Couldn't even give that number back, uh 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.160 drugs or some ship like that, robbery ship like that. 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.480 They wasn't sitting on the block the homies y'all sucking up, y'all. 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.240 I didn't have that, So I didn't look at the 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:37.400 big homies as I need to go get at these dudes, 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:41.479 or don't do this because it's repercussion to it. I 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.440 did what I wanted to do how I wanted to 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.640 do it, and I had catch that ran with me 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:52.600 and we put ship together. So we never had a leader. 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.160 And I don't think it's whether you have a leader 0:29:55.200 --> 0:30:00.760 or whatever title these you know people use. Eight seventeen 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.960 years old, you can think for yourself, and a lot 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.480 of cats don't think for theirself. They think they have 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:10.120 to follow. Just like you said you wouldn't you weren't 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.240 part of a game you was doing. You You got 0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.680 your reputation off of you. I called that gangster by 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.640 nature and not by choice, because you found your own way. 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.680 You stood up and and did you and people recognize 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.760 you for you, not for the hood. But they recognize 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.560 you'll get down. So that's all that is. Man is 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.800 I don't need a title to to fit in or 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:39.280 feel like I'm part of the group. Every man needs 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.400 to think for herself, but some some some neighborhoods they don't. 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:47.480 Some neighborhoods do. And I would say our interpretation of 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.479 l A we always kind of thought it was like, 0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.320 you know, because the word even even the word big 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.760 homie comes from there, right mistaken. Um, It's like you 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.000 got the little homies at the big homies, and the 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.920 big homies is basically the ones that's controlling everything depending 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:13.280 on what said or what hood you know. Yeah, man, 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.080 and I'm gonna tell you a big thing to fun. 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.280 The big homies up all over the country was cracky, 0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.760 you know, eighty five through motherfuckering the early nineties and ships. 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.440 You know, a lot of dudes went from you know, 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.200 because you know, you gotta look at it like this. 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.920 In eight eight eight, you know, smoking the Primo were 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.440 doing some blow with some ballership. You know what I mean. 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.920 It was some ballers ship. You know, you see three 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.160 you feel what I'm saying. That was some baller ship. 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.080 You know. You had niggas who had the pinky rings. 0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.640 They you know, hit the one of these and everything was. 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:49.680 We started looking because we was all drug you know, 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.040 five six niggas rushing in the car all that ship. 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:57.320 So you got body was doing Sherman ships, niggas way 0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:02.720 on all that he's just doing seventy yeah the sermon, 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.400 you know, so so drugs pretty much sucked up up. 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.080 You know, drugs made a whole bunch of niggas rich. 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.560 It got a whole bunch of niggas in the penitentiary, 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.680 and destroyed a whole bunch of motherfucking lives, and destroyed 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.720 a lot of the big homies and destroyed the structure 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:20.920 in the hood. But it only affects you if you 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.280 follow that, if you follow up one of those guylines, 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.520 then you ain't gonna want to do ship. You ain't 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.640 gonna want to be productive. You ain't gonna do it, 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.480 you feel me, So none of that shoudn't even matter. 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.360 People just gotta look at it like I'm doing this. 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.040 I gotta get down, don't buy no dope and didn't 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.920 know you finished smoke that ship? You feel me, You 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.840 defeat the purpose. But you know the thing is, everybody 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:45.800 started out. I'll never funk with that ship. But I 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.680 should see my older homeboys smoking in premos. A lot 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.240 of them, dudes, they were smoking the primos. Eventually that 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.240 a premo was as a joint lace with some crack, 0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.240 some yeah, with some coke. Ain't in the premre mode. 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:05.720 We call that ship a wooly yeah. So that's what 0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.520 Woutane Clean was talking about them songs. That's because that's 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:13.600 the one that that Wouly ship. Yeah Smoka woa, yeah, 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.600 you know, And so that funked up a lot of 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.560 motherfucker's on the load. And you know, one of the 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:20.160 questions I want to ask you, and you a guy 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.240 that's qualified to answer this. You coming from the place 0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.120 that you come from, man, and you first getting this 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.640 recording industry, one of the most fakest motherfucking businesses in 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.680 the world. Did the ship kind of like throw you 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.280 for a loop a little bit? It did because I 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.080 thought they wanted to see some real ship. So I 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:38.000 started putting hands on that and I said and it 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.080 was like, oh, you really did that. And I was like, yeah, 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.440 you ain't want to see that. I thought that this 0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.960 is what y'all, This is what y'all wanted. You wanted 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.920 the real thing, right, you wanted the genuine article, right, 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.719 you know. But that's not it's a goodness from exact, 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.560 you know, because it's a lot of mentality was wrong. 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.040 I was like, all these niggas is fake. We're gonna 0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:01.160 come in the game and just over aggressive. Just my 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.440 mentality was long, and I wish somebody would have told me, 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:05.480 really explained to me that this was really just a 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.719 business and it was really just about images, and it 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.000 was really about marketing exactly. It's just it's just what 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.799 it is. It's just that because you because when you 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.759 do some real ship and you and we scared your 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.480 and we scared your money away, your motherfucker's will be 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.160 ready to cancel you like it ain't ship, Like oh god, damn, 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:27.520 this motherfucker is a real nigger. This motherfucker. They liked 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.319 to pretend ship and they like the facade of what 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.440 it looks like. But when they run into a motherfucker 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.640 who were really running and kicking your no one pull 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.120 a pistol on and slapped the ship out of motherfucker, 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.359 they get no good. They back then, but then they 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.160 still want to make money off the ship. Well, they're 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:45.719 gonna make money off you as long as you you 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:49.480 You you're valuable and you gotta always have some value, 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.560 you know. But the thing is you, you you can 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.520 mess up a lot of your opportunities not knowing. So 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:56.319 a lot of a lot of a lot of a 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.120 lot of me bumping my head in the industry was 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.759 because I was coming directly off the streets I was. 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.040 I was coming from Prisident and I was from prisoner. 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.160 I went back to the street, and it was just like, 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.760 we're coming right out of the street right into the industry. 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.359 So we don't have the game or we don't have 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.759 nobody to really say, yo, look, let me sit down 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.040 and really give you the game for what it really is. 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:20.319 Because you you you you're intelligent, but you need to 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.920 just shop in a couple other things. And you know, 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.600 had I known that then, I would I would uh, 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.600 I would not have cut off some of my opportunities early, 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.239 you know. But I figured it out, you know, as 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.759 time went on. You know, it's it's it's just a 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.880 game man, It's it's marking in you know, it's a 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:41.040 it's a business bro. Oh yeah, it's definitely a businessman. 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.920 And I think it kicks, you know, I don't know, 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:47.160 some talented dudes, man, some talented brothers that street and 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.399 came in the ship and really just lost their mind 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.319 because it wasn't what they thought it was and they 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.560 wound up not being able to progress, you know, and 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.000 it's like you just can't. It's so funny. And I 0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.839 told somebody that cats like the Takashi six nine. They 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.080 are producted all the bullshit. They are product of all 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.319 the bullshit. That's the ship that got created by the industry, man, 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.480 because you figure these kids seen that. That's the biggest 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.560 thing though, man, Because I see a lot of people 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.960 coming to this thing, man, and it ain't what they 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.480 thought it was, and they get disappointed because they meet 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.520 niggas that they thought was that. Dude, and you meet 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:29.279 them and you're like, damn, I'm disappointed, because yeah, yeah 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.640 it is. And I feel like us being niggers though 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.799 a lot of times we were our heart and our 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:39.600 emotions on our sleeves and it wasn't really designed for us. 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.040 But I'm gonna tell you, for me, the moment that 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.960 I stopped, I stopped taking things personal is the moment 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.480 I started to do better. The moment when I figured 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:53.200 out that that the industry and the people that that 0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:56.160 that inhabited are not like me, and they don't have 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.759 the same values, they don't have the same preciples, they 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.920 don't have the same integrity me and I'm gonna be 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.239 offended all the time because they're gonna always do things 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.600 and offend me. The minute that I stopped taking it 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:10.040 personal is the is the minute that I I was 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.319 able to progress a lot more because I was like, 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.160 it took I took it, took the emotion out of everything, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.920 and I wasn't women you know my emotions. I was 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.200 like every time somebody said that day was gonna call 0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.480 me and didn't call me back, or you know, stop 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.319 answering their phone. Those things drive street is crazy. Like 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.400 if we can't take that because we did, trust me, 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.960 trust me, because I'm gonna tell you we do with 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.560 and personally we did with I, work we did with Nigga. 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.480 Not hitting you back will make you want to go 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.480 slap the ship out of there exactly. And if it's 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.319 on some music ship, you gotta be just like you 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.880 know something, fuck it, let me keep you pushing the ship. 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.439 Because this is I don't understand the concept of where 0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.000 I'm at with Nigga. Goddamn, you can't even hit me 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.839 back or the respect that even just answering the phone call, 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.200 especially I got to do with it. In this business, 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.960 you feel when they don't come from the same walks 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.759 of life you come from. This motherfucker probably sitting at 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.640 his desk every day. You know what, I'm saying on 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:13.160 some front, ship or people don't even some some people 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:17.239 work their words not even important to them. So so 0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.440 certain things that's important to you, that's important to us, 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:23.759 they don't have that same value system. So then you 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.160 you gotta measure your expectations on them. I can't expect 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:31.280 him to to to to put value in his word 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.239 when he wasn't raised to do so. If he was 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:40.040 comfortable or grew up and telling lies or being deceitful 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.600 and treacherous to people was the way that he was raised, 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.880 and that's where he is. And we in the industry 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.920 and in the game, it's full of that, you know. 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.279 So like I said, like me, I had to start 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.279 to measure my my expectations because if I didn't, then 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.840 it is driving crazy. You want to you can't it 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.040 sound crazy on everything? Oh yeah, for sure. And one 0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:05.080 of my biggest tasks. That's what I had to tell 0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.919 big bro James. Right when we first started doing this ship. 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.759 You know, you get a lot of people that call you, 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.520 they bring up ideas and ship, you get excited, you 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.719 get ready, and the motherfucker's disappear. I was used to 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.160 that stuff me, you know, working for the publishing company 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.400 and just being management to being an industry. You know, 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.520 somebody tell me something, I don't get excited to the 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:31.040 check come and in some cases until that motherfucker clear, 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:32.400 because I don't got a bunch of bounce and the 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.000 ass checks before two. And this ship, you know what 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.360 I mean, just ship. You know, it's like motherfucker's scheming 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.240 and ship. But you can't take it personal, bro, because 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.640 that's just what they were all else. And the moment 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.440 you put your hands on one of them, Nigga's dog 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.560 will say something about it. The next thing you know, 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:50.280 you're really not jumping off no more, like that shocked 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.759 the ship out of this motherfucking get it over. Won't 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.359 lie to me no more. Yeah, and I don't even 0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.240 think it's I don't even think it's so much line. 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.919 Hold on one second, where's that feedback coming from? Close 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:11.520 the door together? He got two phones together, My bad 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:15.799 man nephew in here whiling out. Yeah, he's doing his 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.399 mother for the thing. But that that's the thing. Man. 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.479 You can't take none of this ship personal. You won't 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.960 have nothing going on because I know around the time 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.840 that she was doing your thing, you had a reputation 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:36.200 for slapping the shout of niggas, damn, and that's what 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.719 we was here for. Hold on, bro, I'm sorry you 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:42.040 got them. I mean that's what you're going, that's what's 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.279 gonna do. I mean, like I said, if you come 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.520 from some certain walks of life, I mean you're not 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.960 You're not gonna put up with certain ships. Man from 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:54.799 Novody and especially in this this game of music and entertainment, 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.640 niggas be on some funny ship sometimes and like I said, 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.040 it just be too many niggas perpetrating to be real 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.600 beyond phone face ship. And sometimes you can't even hold 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.640 that ship back. Then your your the natural self come 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.120 out and man, I just gotta check nigga. I just 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.440 have to because this ship is uncalled for. Some niggas 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.680 checked sometimes though, Yeah, for real. And you can answer 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:21.200 this if you want, too, mainly or nothing. Who was 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.719 the nigga in the industry that just disappointed you the most? 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.479 And you met this nigga you couldn't wait the meeting 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:30.760 on when you met him, he was like this motherfucker WIENI. Um, 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.000 that's that's happened many times. Um, It's it's too it's 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.279 too there's too many of the names. Specifically, it's it's 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:41.239 you know, it's the saying that you shouldn't meet your idols, Bro, 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.520 you shouldn't meet your heroes or because they never add 0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:45.200 up to what you thought that there was gonna be, 0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.400 you know what I mean. That's why mostique is the 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.799 greatest thing. You know, you seem close with you really 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:54.200 a fall so you know, um, yeah that happened many 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:56.279 times though, Bro, Like, I'm like, this nigga is really 0:41:56.280 --> 0:42:01.560 a bird like bird? Yeah, that's bird that that that's 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.000 New York explained. That's New York explained the bird a 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.480 bird bird as laking. Yeah, you know what the thing 0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.920 is though it's worth the opposite for me too. Sometimes 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.719 sometimes the niggas I thought was when these I meet 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:15.640 these niggas and were somewhere and track up on this 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.920 nigga really with the business that happened to Yeah, you know, 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.600 he just don't talk about it like that. And that's 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.719 what I noticed. The dudes that don't put up that 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.279 persona that's cool and everything, Like when you see you, 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.680 you ain't out that wilding. Now you're cool, you're personal, 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:32.399 but you're a nice guy until you start some bullshit. Yeah, well, 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.600 I mean that's because you know when you when you are, 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.919 when you're comfortable with who you are, you don't gotta 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.440 project something else. You know, you know you do, you smile, 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.759 you laugh, you you know, you're humble, you know, you're 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.520 just comfortable in your skin as a man. You know 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.319 a lot of times, you know, you know how this 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:51.840 is is always a nigger. That's that's that's that's popping 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.160 the hardest or ice cream and the strongest. He's probably 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.040 the weakest. Well, I tell you, I tell you this. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.360 I give props to the niggas where every thing I 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.600 thought he was. I was a Ghetto Boys fan coming up, 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:10.240 big Ghetto Boys fan. Willie motherfucking D is the nigger 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.760 on the records and the nigg in person, cool brother, 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.160 cool nigga. I don't meant a whole bunch of cats 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.239 like that. There's just like everything you thought they was 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:22.560 gonna be. And I actually saw him put hands when 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.640 I nick in Texas one time at a restaurant. Willie 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.960 D got hands, you know, So he was everything I 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.120 thought I was. Man and I'll miss the dudes. It's 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.759 like disappointment. I'm like you, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.360 get a political hands. It's been so many I choose 0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.600 not to name him, you know, but you know, let's 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.040 come back to this music ship, Dog, because you would, 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.400 dude that wasn't supposed to get what you got. You know, 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.399 you came out and you put out a big ass 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.279 motherfucking record. You came with the hater record that had 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.319 the clost banging, because that was a big record out 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.040 here on the West Coast, Dog, I had, I had 0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.480 my biggest record is only Above? Oh yeah, yeah, all 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.279 was bigger? Yeah of course, yeah, All the Above was 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.960 your biggest record. But they funk with you out here though, Dog, Yeah, yeah, 0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.160 I spent I'm I'm in and out of l A 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.279 all the time. Yeah for sure, Man, when you make 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:12.919 sure the next time you go out here, we could 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.600 do this in person. Yeah. So it's yeah, it's certain 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:18.600 niggas that come into the industry. Like I said, I 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.400 don't listen to a lot of motherfucker's, but you know, 0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.680 may know you as a motherfucker I listened to when 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.440 you first hit the scene. You know, I never listened. 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.160 Like I said, I don't like to listen to new 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.719 ship because it don't be that that feeling of the 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.840 yester years of ship while I came from But you 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.319 you had often music like side I funk with a 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.200 lot of New York niggas and they're funking with New 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.000 York for a long time, shout out, want to get 0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:46.080 pret um. But you had that music, and you was 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.880 one nigga that we out here on the West Coast 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.600 gravitating it too, because you came from the same type 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:56.160 of walks of life. Get me so expect my nag. Yeah, 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.000 you know. And one thing I want to touch you onto. 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:03.399 You got a podcast, man, it's kind of popping, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.319 Getchen talk man. We're doing very well. Yeah man, y'all 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.440 pee that out too. Yeah, you got a lot of 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.640 good You got a lot of new content on their Yeah, 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.040 it up on that motherfuck Yeah definitely, thank you man. Yeah, 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:17.879 y'all be cracking up over there, because I was talking 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.319 to Chris Morrow about you. Huh. He loved him something 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:23.160 he was talking, but he was talking about you. Man. 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.440 He thinks very highly that your dog definitely think the 0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:29.520 thing very highly. Man. So what's next, dog, Like, if 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.480 we're getting some more records, like what's definitely? Man, I 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.719 just I just dropped the project and UM and uh 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.719 in December, but I've been holding some records though. Um 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.920 I got a whole project Gune. I'm just trying to 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:45.200 lock in this distribution and we're just gonna keep pushing, man. 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.320 Um I'll be back on the West Coast and finished 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:49.160 this movie that we were shooting on the West Coast 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.120 or l A in about two weeks. You know, we 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.800 got the book coming, you know, more podcasts coming, and 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.000 you know we're gonna keep We're gonna keep just giving 0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.319 you every every part of me, just in different components now. 0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.879 So now we ain't just doing music before. So now 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.520 you know we're hustling on different different angles. Well that 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.600 that that's where the game that kind of went to. Man, 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.600 you can't just do music no more. It's like music 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.400 don't almost became just like the calling card for all 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.320 the other ship that you've got going on. You're almost 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:21.279 like a media personality now, right, music component, Yeah, you 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.680 got to just be a personality all across the all 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.480 across the board. Now it's not just about you know, 0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.279 the music. And the thing about when you've got other 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.439 components is that when you're making money from the other 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.520 components that keeps the music pure, like you ain't gotta 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.800 chase after trying to make a radio record or whatever. 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.080 You know, make the music pure and make the music 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.160 for your fans. You know, you don't gotta you don't 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.840 gotta try to be in the race, you know, you 0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.960 just you just you know, stick to your call, stick 0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.319 to your fan base, and just delivered to them. You 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:52.040 know that, And you make sure we get them ricords, man, 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.120 because I might as well break this news now, man, 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.960 we just got picked up for nine and nine markets 0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.160 for our radio show. Man, wake your punk ass up, 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.880 um to make sure we get the rigords. Dog. You 0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.040 know what I'm saying that a media based and BDS too. Dog. 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.960 You know what I'm saying something important. You know what 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.279 I'm saying. You can get that one spining with us 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.160 is go count nine times on there, you know, So 0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:16.600 make sure we get it. You know what I'm saying 0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.799 that we got real Nicks playing ricords, now, Yeah, that's 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:20.360 what we're trying to do. We're trying to play some 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.960 real ship. We ain't trying to play this phony ship. 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.120 So yeah, we definitely need some good music and from 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.359 from artists that we respect. You know what I'm saying. 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:31.279 I don't know bullshit. Like I said, people nowadays can't 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.120 take criticism with their music. That's what I tell motherfucker's 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.759 every day. Let me ask you this. So when he 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.800 can't make good music, we can't make goods. Can we 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.160 make good music? Can a bird make good music? I 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.040 don't know that. They probably they they ain't. They ain't 0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.120 want that lifestyle, so they can't make our good music. Well, 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.840 you know this will about some phony ship, yea. And 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.040 I mean they can talk about some stacks of money 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.120 and pulling up in the Lamborghini and you know my 0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.719 chain this and my chain that make popping. But you 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.960 know they ain't spent that realism about the hard walks 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:06.880 of life and then they are struggling and how you 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.239 had to come up and you know how you have 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.560 to go to prison and walk this walk and walked 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.319 his line to become the motherfucker you are to day. 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.920 So our just can't really talk that talk. Well, I'm 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.920 gonna tell you this, dog, and I don't want nobody 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.000 out there don't go take my little clip and turn 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.279 into steals on the this and such and such. Rick 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:30.000 Ross makes incredible music, but that is the most phony ship. 0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:31.719 I don't never heard of my life. Dog. It's like 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.319 it's like watching the movie Dog. It ain't nothing real 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:38.080 about it, but it's great music though you can't take away. Yeah. 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.279 I like Rick Ross too. I love him. Ain't nothing 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:41.960 wrong with him. This is what I'm saying. Wants you 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.600 to hear me out. See James like he about to 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.719 jump on me about this. Dear me out. Yeah, but 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.600 this is this is this is this is steals a pi. Yeah. 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.120 This is what I think though, And this is one 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.800 of the things that and I think Ross is incredible, dude. 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.239 And Ross actually a solid cat. That's the homely that's 0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.640 my nigga. But Ross said ship that you almost can't 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:02.319 compete with it as an artist, you know when he 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.839 talked about I'm with with the real Noriega. I'm you know, 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.040 I'm selling a hundred keys a week and I'm doing 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.759 this and that. Man, some of that ship is be 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.319 kind of like overboard over the time. But that ain't 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:14.800 for you to judge. I'm just I'm playing this me 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.400 making my opinion. I ain't not gonna be success with that, 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.239 all right. Let me ask you all the question. Man, 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.680 Since rap being going on. Motherfucker's has been saying ship, 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.400 and everybody knew that you ain't living that life. Everybody 0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:31.680 know you ain't working with Gandhi, you ain't never met 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:34.960 the motherfucker. Now there you go questions. So that means 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:40.760 a bird ass niked with an active imagination can But 0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:44.759 this is the whole point. There's dudes who write books, right, 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.920 some dudes write fictional ship that ain't you whatever whatever, 0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.360 And that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. And 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:56.120 you have to break it down entertainments in the fucking 0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.399 taming and that's what I'm saying, walk of life at 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.800 you come from. I'm talking to strip some real ship 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.319 to a nigga, you feel me. But other than that, 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.840 you have to take it for entertainment. I'm like entertaining 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.640 your fucking ask. And I can talk about it because 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.200 the real noriaga and I can talk about a hundred 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.600 key loos and dope and I could see what I 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:17.560 watched from them, served or whatever. But you have to 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.040 take it for what it is exactly. And that's why 0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.040 I said that. What I said was to prove a 0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.359 point because I actually with Rick Ross. Rick Ross makes 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:30.279 great music has great production everything, but at the end 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.640 of the day, this ship is entertainment, so it's only 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.440 gonna beat. Everybody do a little embellish and I think 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:37.279 just because it's sounds flying, you know what I mean, 0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.480 Like the nigger to say I had twenty bitches in 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.520 the bed of my toes. You know what I mean, 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.600 You're gonna say he didn't like you don't know about 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.480 every day get down. So how do you know I 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:51.239 get now, Yeah, exactly, I don't know. I didn't know 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.520 the real Noriaga. Hey man, I'm just saying you got 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.360 sometimes you gotta keeps you know. I'm saying that this 0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:58.799 with this, with this show for it to get good 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.120 things out of ship. You know, I mean, I ain't 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:03.680 see anything. May No, did I sound disrespectful when I 0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.920 see it? Then no, I don't think it was disrespecting. 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.160 But it's it go back to what I was saying before. Though, 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.439 like for us, like us coming from where we come from, 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:16.880 a lot of times we don't we don't detach the 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.640 entertainment from the real life. We have to learn to 0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:22.560 do that. Like like it was just saying, like it's 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:26.800 dudes that don't come from the lifestyle. But they're great artists. 0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.279 They're great writers, a lot of street niggs blay oh Man, 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.319 and they ain't living that life. At some point, it 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:36.719 don't even matter no more because it's just art. We 0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:40.879 gotta separate, We gotta separate our feelings for for what 0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:44.319 we what we think is real, you know, from from 0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.480 the actual movie and in the music is the movie 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.960 like like he's like, they don't said stop taking ship personal. 0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:55.719 You fine, I don't because this nigga might have never 0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.480 sold a sack in his life, because I usually on 0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:01.440 the corner selling sacks. But I can't get mad because 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.000 he's rapping about it. It's more funking money. Grew up 0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.680 in Sartos or some ship like that. It never touched 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.879 the dumpe sack. But you know about it. You didn't 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.440 heard about it, you know, watching up movies about it. 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.160 He didn't cousin them, went to jail or some ship. 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.160 So I feel like I got the authority to write 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:21.200 about me selling sacks. And I think that's what most 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:23.959 artists get it from anyway, because it ain't been wrong 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.040 with you know, if you don't have hardboys, you know, 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.320 it's like this, I don't see it like, I'm pretty 0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:31.960 sure James don't. I'm pretty shake James. Trust me, you 0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:35.920 are the inspiration for somebody's rapping music out here. Somebody 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:39.359 ever ship this, let me ship this. Rappers are like 0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:44.120 actors when you get guys that that do their homework, 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:48.320 listen to certain rappers and get that flow. And because 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:53.040 some of them sound like somebody and they feel that 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:57.640 they perfected that, now I gotta write about something they 0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:59.919 ain't never some of the Jim Catch ain't never left better, 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:05.000 something left here. So now they're rapping about something like 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.960 you're talking about Rick Ross. Rick Ross rapping about something. 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.440 We don't know what you're doing. But and you know 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.640 people don't know, but he's perfected. He's making a lot 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:19.000 of money. Why not just taking this? I mean as 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.880 it is, and it is with music. That's what I 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.879 looked at this because some of them young Chicago nigga 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.799 sound like they really doing this. Ship They talked about 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:31.319 music that by his covering. Like I said, when you 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:34.040 ain't next to a motherfucker, you ain't come from that circle. 0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:36.000 I just you gotta take it for what it is. 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:37.880 And motherfucker make com music. I don't know what a 0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.760 motherfucker did he might have shot a thick at ten times, 0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:42.600 or he might have not did ship and saw the 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.080 ship on TV last night, wrote a verse of body. 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.120 But who am I to judge this motherfucker because you 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.359 don't come from my circle. That's a real song. I'm 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.200 looking at you making music now. Whether your ship is 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.600 authentic or not, or you're a real motherfucker, I don't know. 0:53:57.680 --> 0:53:59.799 That's to be judged by a lot of people. But 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.279 I ain't got time to be fucking with your ship 0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:06.239 and trying to judge who you not. And then we 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:07.719 go with that man, I say, he just sitting in 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.279 the preserve and this ship. I ain't gonna say nothing. Hey, 0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.920 I'm just saying listen. It's it's like like I just 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:15.000 said that. He said the same thing. You know what 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:18.600 I mean? When you're pocketing is what it is. It's entertainment, bro, 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.200 it's entertainment. We we we we don't know how to 0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:25.080 detach you that outlook, because I got I got listening, 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.560 I got I got homies that called me from prison 0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:29.759 that just don't get it right, y know? What's up 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:31.799 with this nicking? These nick is talking on this that 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:35.120 they really like that and I try to tell him, like, Bro, 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.239 at this point, it don't even matter. We'll do it 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:41.000 matter because the fans is not based on that. Life 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:42.879 is not based on that, you know what I mean. 0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:46.560 So it's just entertainment. Whoever's whoever's telling the story the 0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:48.879 best they could tell it. It's like it's life. It's 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:50.640 like a act of just's like putting on his suit 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.280 and getting in the movie. Right, yeah, and the reality 0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.800 ever else though, the fans don't give a funk anywhere 0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.920 as long as that ship sound dope. Really they got 0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:05.000 a problem with it, then it's gonna be tested sometime, 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.560 and then you see what happens when niggas got real. 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.919 Niggas got problems with it, and they pull your card 0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:13.080 and test you because they think you that nigga. Eventually 0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.319 the ship happens and ship hits the fan, and some 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:17.640 of these niggas end up getting popped or dead or 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:22.759 whatever whatever. Because Bragadocian ship that you it can get 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:26.239 you a different place to be able to accept it 0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.160 as man, this ship is music entertained these niggas talking 0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:31.759 about they kill a hundred motherfuckers or whatever. Man, it's 0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:35.880 music they wrapped into a beat, whatever, cool whatever it. 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:38.200 I don't I don't. I don't know what your real 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.399 life is. Then I come from one walk of life. 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.399 I know what I did, I know what James did. 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:46.240 We all think whatever. But on record they come on, man, 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:48.600 that ship playing my card like some music nigga, and 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:50.880 after it's done, they got cut it off. And I 0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.440 don't think you killed a hundred niggas because you wrapped 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:57.680 about it on your record. Hell now, Arnold Schwartzenegger blew 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.080 up a thousand niggas as a robot. You feel me, 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.239 he ain't walking around this motherfucker like determinator. You can 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.680 stop his ass too, like it ain't ship. You feel me? 0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:09.960 So please, you gotta take entertainment for what entertainment is 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.600 at the end of the day, Yes, all days. So man, 0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:16.879 where can people find you at? Dog? So what we're 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.640 cann people find you at? Oh? Yeah, man, you know 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:23.880 I'm outside. Brother May hustle hard on everything, Man on 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.560 hustle hard on everything, Instagram, Twitter, whatever it is. Man 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.480 for shore Man, I appreciate you come, We appreciate you 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:32.279 coming on the show Man and when you out here 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:35.759 on west Man his brother about loving hip hop. We're 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.480 gonna answer question, James. I want to know what's handing 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:43.360 with Loving hip Hop. He's a loving him to know 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:49.799 the fun is going down and loving You talk, you talk, 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:52.359 You're talking about as far as me being all that, Yeah, 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:54.600 I mean, how much of in this real? How much 0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:59.000 of it is just a strong well? I mean, I 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.200 only have one explain is with Loving hip Hop? I 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.560 was only on one season and and for me, it 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:07.640 was just business. It was just strictly business. They you know, 0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:09.600 I was able to get myself in a situation where 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:13.400 they were they was giving me a nice amount of 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:17.840 money to do it, so, um, I did it, um, 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:19.800 but it was it was business. I never watched the 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:23.760 episode that I was on. I never participated in actually 0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:26.280 promoting it and none of that. You know, um, and 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:28.000 you know, shout out to the people that that did, 0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:31.920 but I didn't. I didn't look at uh doing TV, 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:36.080 reality TV as being anything that I that I could use, 0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.520 you know, for like music or stuff like that. It 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:40.160 was just what it was. Was just a business moment. 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:45.400 It wasn't your reality. One more question. You said you 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:49.760 never watched, you never listened to an episode? None of that. 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.200 I've been feeling, I feel the same way. I never 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:57.600 listened or watched down podcast that I was done watch 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:02.040 my apisode. I don't like watching me. Okay, I don't 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:05.880 watch the so even even with my old podcast, I don't. 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.800 I don't watch it the show. Did you look at 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.800 any other podcasts? Are you a fan of any other 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.480 podcasts out there? Um? A little bit of everybody. I 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:19.840 tapped into this one, you know. Um, I tapped into everybody. 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:24.680 You know Gilly uh wollow my man Noor. You know 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:27.080 I'm tapped in. I'm watching what's going on? I know 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.560 I know about this. Join here. Yeah, some good people. Man. 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.720 You come into podcast world right now. Man, you watch 0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.760 the Joe Button's podcast. You watched Joe button Ship not 0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:39.640 really man? What you think about the dance to chronicle through? Yeah? 0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:42.680 He said? He said, he tapped in with us. I've 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.400 been I've been tapped into this one, okay, I've been 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:49.160 tapping for show man when we wus you too, a 0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:51.120 whale dog And when you out here man in the 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:52.840 next few weeks. If you've got times, I know you 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:55.240 come out here to work and everything. If you've got times, 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:56.520 we are little to have you. But I don't know 0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:58.600 if you smoke or not, but eight smoke like a motherfucker. 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:01.320 And you know, I don't know if you take a 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:02.960 pun or not, but we make sure we got some 0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:04.560 of that good. You know what I'm saying. It's not 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.760 good a week for you and we don't we don't. 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:09.640 We don't spoke, primo. So you ain't gotta worry about 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.880 getting the laces. Yeah, you know movies out here, and 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:14.480 you ain't gotta worry about the trick. And you're like, 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:18.680 got manway like this, you know I'm saying, but we 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:25.120 but we do got some good weed though. Good okay, 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.400 show man. But we appreciate you, bro, and sorry for 0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:30.840 the little delays early on the technical difficulties man, but 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:33.240 we appreciate your dog man much bless is being to 0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:38.520 continue success man, for sure appreciate And this has been 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:41.720 another episode the Gangster Chronicles. Man, we had mainly on 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:44.440 here man today for epic episode. Man, y'all make sure 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:48.400 y'all catch back up. What is next week? Sill we 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:51.400 out we this motherfucker. Well. That concludes another episode of 0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:54.080 Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.160 Heart app and subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast for 0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.200 Apple users. Find a purple mic on the front of 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.280 your screen subscrip. 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