1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton Watts 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Bank to l A, come on the California the Valley. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: it rail on your side of your town, you tune 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: into Gangster Chronicles Gangster the Goals. We're gonna tell you 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: how we go. If I lie my nose will girl 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: but the truth. Gangster Chronicals. This is not your average show. 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: You're now tuned into the Rail m c A, Bick 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: James and Bix Fails from the Streets. Hello, Welcome to 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I Heart Apple, subscribe to the Gainst Chronicles for my 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen, Subscribe 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: to Against the Chronicles and leave a five star rate 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: in the comment. We to welcome everyone to another episode 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Against the Chronicles podcasting with My Homeboys and Man to Day. 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: We got a special special guest man. We got the 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: homeboy may No Man All the Way man from New 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: York Man, you know NYC man. That's my spot man. 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: That's my second home. Man, shout out, what's up? Man? 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: You know what's good? What's up? What's up? Fellas are 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: you doing? And we're good? Man? Man, we just out 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: of your chilling man, you know doing what it is 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: we do. Man, I just want to say this. You 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: got quite the reputation out there. You want the real 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: ones for show? Hey man, you know that. I mean, 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: we come from real place, you know what I mean. 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: And anything we had to do, we just had to 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: do it, you know. You know what I'm saying. And 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: since since we keep it all the way g on 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: the show, we ain't gonna talk about none of the 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: beat downs with the smackings that don't happen in the past, 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But one thing we alas 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna go back to. We gonna go way way back man, 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: because um, you did a bid. We're gonna go tip 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: a drug dealer. So what you did a bid for? 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: You know back in the day, you know you did 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: a bid. You did a bid. Man out there, you 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: know it's gonna execute something that didn't go quite as 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: as you playing. But when you was locked up, you 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: found out that you had some special attributes about yourself. 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: You actually learned how to rap in a hole. That's right. 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact. I never I never 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: had no you know, inspirational thoughts about being a rapper. 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I was always a fan. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't. 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: I was a fan of music period. You know, you know, 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: um when the West Coast started to take off, and 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, I was in prison when when m C eight, 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, and um, you know Minister Society came out. 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: You know, we was, we was all fans of that. 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: We we we we watched Tupac Rise, we watched everything 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: happened in the Death Row and all that, you know. 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: But I wasn't inspired to ever be an artist. I 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: didn't start rapping as I was actually, you know, in 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: a in a hole one of these times, and you know, 57 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: spending a year in there, and you know some guys 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: that was rapping on the gate and it was a 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Friday night, and I just was just like, man, you 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: know what the next you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna 61 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: get up the next morning and write me my first rhyme, 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: and I just I started just to do it out 63 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: of out of boardom just just the past the time. 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: So that's how I started to develop and do that. 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I know coming from the streets, man, 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: real street niggas kind of looked down on ravers, you know, 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: real street niggas. Sol did any of your homies trip 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: on you when you came home talking But I'm gonna 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: be a rapper now? Was They kind of like, man, 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: what then you're talking about man rapping? See, that's that's 71 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the thing. Like, So I come from a place where 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't fashionable to be a rapper. It was like rapper, 73 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: you rap, nigger rapper. So it was I had I 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: had to keep it a secret for my guys, you know, 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: and and I had to keep it. You know. I 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: just wasn't coming on the yard and just rapping because 77 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, it was just not the thing to be 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: doing because like I said, you mean, we know, it 79 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: wasn't always fashionable to be that. You know. I never 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: looked up to artists in that way. I never looked 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I never idolized rappers in that way. I didn't look 82 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: at rappers and want to beat them, you know what 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean. I was more infatuated with the other side 84 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: of things. And you know, so so what I did 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: was because I didn't want to just spring that on 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: my homies. I kept it. I kept it to myself 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: for as long as I could. And and I you know, 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: and because you know, my niggas loved me, so you 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: know it was I got to a point where I 90 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I think we could do music as 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: a as a hustle. So I had to present it 92 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: to them like as an idea of a hustle, as 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: an idea for us to try something different, because now 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: we're in our twenties and it's like, you know, we've 95 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: been out here doing all this ship for all these years. 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: You know, we were throwing our lives away. Let's try 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: to do something different, you know. We we we've seen 98 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: what when music has done for you know, for hustlers 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: and dudes like like holding up, Like we could do 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: the same thing. We come from the same neighborhood as 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: like Big In and J C and stuff like that, 102 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: so we could why not, you know, and a lot 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: of a lot of cats um come from the street aspect. 104 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we looked at that ship as a hustle. 105 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: You know. It's a way to not get caught up 106 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: by the one time, you know, a serving or serving 107 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: ya on the corner, fucking when we serve some rhymes, 108 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: because I see niggas is making money from that ship. 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: And especially if I can talk about the neighborhood and 110 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: put some tails in the streets of ship, we do 111 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: on that aspect. So it becomes to the hussle like 112 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: the d you feel me exactly exactly, So why you 113 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: can't be a gangster and start rapping and you just 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: said one of those real cats that's on some real 115 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: gangster ship and the ship that you're spending out there, 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: people perceive that because they know what type of cat 117 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: you is. So why you couldn't just bam, just be 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: that nigga? I mean, you know you you are who 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: you are no matter what you put on later on, 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: you are who you are. So if your core is 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: you know you you're a stand up dude, and you 122 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: won't be a stand up dude no matter how you 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: how you uh, you know how you put it. But 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: to me in the beginning, it was it was just 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: the way I just had a I guess, you know, 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: um insecurity on how I thought people would perceive me, 127 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, and plus I wish I was a lot younger, 128 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, Um, but you are who you are after 129 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: a wild though. When when when the music starts to 130 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: become profitable and you start to make some ways? You 131 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: can't do both though, Oh for sure, it's definitely hard. 132 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: You gotta pick a side at some point. I mean, 133 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: you are who you are as a man. But at 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: some point, you know, when it becomes a business for you, 135 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: you have to. You have to. You have to pick 136 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: one one hat over the other. Yeah, man, And that's 137 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: the thing, man, I want to go back. Man, when 138 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: you first got locked up, man, because you know that's 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: on this show, man, That's what we talked about. Man, 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: we try to really Kelly's young niggas. This out here 141 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: ain't nothing inside of that motherfucker. Everything's going on out 142 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: here really. You know you're trying to go in there 143 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: so bad just to try to get a reputation and everything. Man, 144 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: when you first got locked up, man, what was going 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: through your mind? Man? When you like, what the funk? 146 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm cut up in this dumb ship. 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: Um See for me, I was I was, you know, 148 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: for lack of better words, I was I was at 149 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: risk youth, so I had been getting in trouble basically, 150 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: for a great a great portion of my young life. 151 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I had been going and you know, been in you know, 152 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: juvenile detention and you know division for you and group 153 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: homes and you know a d T schools and stuff 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: or whatever they had for you. Like I have been 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: gone through that already. Spaw fit um. So you know, 156 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, growing up the way I grew up, you know, 157 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: going to prison almost felt like you expected it because 158 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: it was everything that you've seen around you. You know, 159 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: all of the dudes that you respected have been in jail. 160 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Everybody that I looked up to have been in jail. Um, 161 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: And you almost expected to be one day in that 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: situation because it becomes natural because of the environment that 163 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: you win. Because the environment is aggressive. The environment is 164 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: is violent. You're selling growths, were shooting, and the police 165 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: is gonna come at some point. We expected. Um. But 166 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: my prison experience, I hated prison every day. But you 167 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: know I got into a lot of trouble in there. Um. 168 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: I am gonna hold you. You know, I got into 169 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: a lot of trouble when I was in prison. I 170 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: was in over ten different prisons, some of them twice 171 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: while I was in prison. And that's a hell of 172 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different prisons to being you know. So 173 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: that's just a testament of how much trouble I I 174 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: used to get into. You know, I spent almost four 175 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: years in solitary can from it. So I was I 176 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: was a knucklehead, you know what I mean? And you 177 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: know I wasn't. I was definitely not one of the 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, one of the model inmates. You understand, you know, 179 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: I stayed and I stayed in the ship so um, 180 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: but I hated and I hated it every day of it. 181 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: And I knew that I wouldn't um when I whenever 182 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: I did leave prison, I knew that I wouldn't leave 183 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: my spirit in there, you know what I mean, I 184 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't do. I wouldn't do. So I had us about 185 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: who I was. I wasn't gonna come to jail and 186 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: become something that I wasn't. I wasn't gonna come to 187 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: jail become and involved myself with you know, homosexuality, involved 188 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: myself with and become a drug addict, you know, become up, 189 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: become a jail house snitch like these. Because I felt 190 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: like if I did any one of those things that 191 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: I would be leaving my spirit in prison. So you know, 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: I still tall. I did whatever I had to do. 193 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Um you know, I shook it up many many many 194 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: times with many men, and and I'm and I'm here, 195 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: and I'm here to show it with all my scars, 196 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: bro Blessed. I mean, that's that's the transition that we 197 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: we like to present the people, you know what I'm saying, 198 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: because they hear there, they hear gangster chronicles, and they 199 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: feel like we want to advocate for all the negative 200 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: ship that we that that that comes with that word. 201 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: But like I tell people when we conversate with Needers 202 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: on this show, it's about the transition and coming out 203 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: on the other side, you know, doing that. You know, 204 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: a lot of us was products of our environment of 205 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: living that bluff life or gangster ship or selling dope 206 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. But to be able to stand here today, 207 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's a lot of ship 208 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: that motherfucker's don't damn. You ain't supposed to be here today. 209 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: You give me, you're still supposed to be We're supposed 210 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: to still be in prison for about twenty something more years, 211 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: or we're supposed to be underground, you feeling, so to 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: be able to show people that it's like myself, like you, 213 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: like James, that we're able to come through the other 214 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: side clean. You know what I'm saying. Uh, it's just 215 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: the positive impact that we try to let people see 216 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: on gangster chronicles and then we're able to be strong 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: black men today and not be mislaid by pitfalls of 218 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. You know, because as young dudes, we all 219 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: see that ship is glamorized of banging or representing or 220 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: being like you said that knuckle, especially as a young 221 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: motherfucker going to prison. You know, that's like earning your 222 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: stripes right there. It is, it is, and then you 223 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: know you're you're impressionable, and you know, you know like 224 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: you you're impressionable. And then you know, you know one thing, 225 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: like I'm not letting nobody hurt me. I'm not about 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: to be you know, I was. I was. I thought 227 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: I was somebody in the street, you know what I mean. 228 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: I thought I had a reputation in the street. I'm 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna protect that in here. All means you know what 230 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean? And what what you you? You you live 231 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: and you learn and the thing about growing is that 232 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: you once you get an opportunity to live and you 233 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: see how important life is. And then you see how 234 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, some of the things that you thought and 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: some of the feelings that you had really wasn't really 236 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: what it was. But you just needed that time. You 237 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: just needed the opportunity to live a little so you 238 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: can broad in your mind and you can level up, 239 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: and you can you can look back on your on 240 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: your younger years. You can look back in your teenage 241 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: years and you can see that, man I was, I was. 242 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: I was so destructive, you know. I you know, that 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: really wasn't the right way to go. And you know 244 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: so now when you you know, like myself, I got 245 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: an eighteen ye old son, So now I was imprisoned 246 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: by the time I was an eighteen you know. So 247 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: I because of my experience, I can better, you know, 248 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: got him because I know the pitfalls. I understand what 249 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: it what it feels like to be a young teenage 250 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: black male trying to find yourself, you know. And he 251 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: got it way easier than I did. So you know, 252 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: it gives me that much more of an inspiration to 253 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: be to be here and and and to maintain what 254 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing and keep it pushing. Bro. Yeah, it's especially 255 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: in hip hop man, because what I've been seeing over 256 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: the this treeing over like the last teen years, man, 257 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: and where you got a whole lot of talented young 258 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: artists that's going to prison. Like you just had Bobby's 259 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: murder on your show. You know, he had tied his career. 260 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: He got this big gass record that don't took off, 261 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: and he couldn't even enjoy the fruits of his labor. 262 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure the Ricord company could have posted 263 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: a bill for this nigga did something for what they 264 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: don't do ship. They kind of turned their back on 265 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: him and then profited off all the chaos. You know 266 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: what I mean? Why do that? Dumb? Why do that? 267 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: I think if if if you turn yourself, you start 268 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: doing wrap and then you're good at it, and then 269 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: you go in the street. Just like you said earlier, 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: you can't do both. You can't be a gangster and 271 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: and wrap it at the same time. Do what you 272 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: do and and now you got an opportunity to leave 273 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: that ship alone. So that's when we should know. Okay, 274 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: I got a bag up from your fellas, and everybody 275 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: that's in your corner should should have your back at 276 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: that time when you try to transition from a gangster 277 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: to to wrapping to make money, So why go belly 278 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: mana jail that that only enhanced how he think? So 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: you think they should have left the young brother and 280 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: then they did well, well, well, well, well, not to 281 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: cut you off, but specific to bothering them situation, A 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of what was going on with 283 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: them was that they they had already had issues and 284 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: it was already you know, um underinvestigation way before he 285 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: even popped off. So you know, it was a likely 286 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: like a you know, a likely chance that he was 287 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: already gonna be on that path to go to go 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: to prison anyway, because they was already on him. I 289 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: think the issue is is when artists have the opportunity 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: to become artists to get money to you know, to 291 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: to to feed their families, and then become criminals later, 292 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: that is hustling backwards. Because I always felt like, you know, 293 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: we was in the street not because we wanted to be, 294 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: because we adapted to whatever whatever environment was. If you 295 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: speak to any any any real dude you know that's 296 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: actually really be active in the streeting it, whether he 297 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: and his late twenties or early thirties. He don't really 298 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: want to be there. He don't really want to be there, 299 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: Like like we did what we had to do because 300 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: we felt we adapted to our environment. We became savage 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: because that was a response to our environment. Like how 302 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: do you how do you get an opportunity to become 303 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: a star and then become a criminal later on? Like that, 304 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: to me, it is kind of productive. That ain't really 305 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: what it was because you had every opportunity to be 306 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: what you say you is now prior to that, and 307 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't participate, you know. So I think that that's 308 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: with the with the differences is when we see a 309 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: lot of these young dudes become something that they really 310 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: wasn't laid on. Yeah, you see it all day like um, 311 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and that's more the thing like you said, Bobby, And 312 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: then was in the streets and I know a lot. 313 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty tapped me in out this, so I know 314 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: they was already doing their thing because Glasses was telling 315 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: me about them litt niggas. I managed Glasses Malone and 316 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: he was telling me about them little nigga's way before 317 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: they pop thought and he was going out there messing 318 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: with him and stuff. So my My thing is this, Um, 319 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: I see a lot of cats out here. Now. My 320 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: problem is with the guys that make it then decide 321 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: to come then decide, oh, I'm gonna beat this gamester. 322 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get jumped in and I'm gonna go 323 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: to the coast. You see these cats all the time, 324 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: come out here and get caught up in that ship. 325 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: They get caught up in the game ship. They come 326 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: out here and they get on with a bunch of 327 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: niggas that really ain't working with them like that. But 328 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: they got money and they got some influence, and before 329 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: you know what, they're getting their cribs broken too, and 330 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: ship and all the little funny ships start happening and everything. Um, 331 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: do you ever try to holler at some of these 332 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: niggas mainly wanta tell them, man, look you're hustling backwards. 333 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you gotta you gotta be careful 334 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: you know how you give your advice, you know what 335 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, because you don't. You always want to maintain 336 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: a respect level. You know, you you just can't be 337 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: the nigga just running around passing on advice because then 338 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: you're just like you know, niggas could see that as 339 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: you being just too preachy, you know what I mean. 340 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: But for the ones that I actually have relationships with, 341 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: for the ones that you know that we actually call 342 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: each other and we actually you don't spend time around 343 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: each other, you know. Of course, we get into conversations 344 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: where you know, I try to tell them that the 345 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: opportunity is greater than the problem, and I try to 346 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: give them life lessons and stuff like that. You know. Yeah, 347 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing you know, in talking 348 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: to talking to the big broke James all the time, 349 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: and just different castes. I know, Man, it seems like 350 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: the hardest part man, for a guy that's come out 351 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: of prisoners, standing out of prison. Indeed, indeed, I got 352 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: a book, um that I'm coming out with soon. Um 353 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: it should have been out. I've been working on this 354 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: but for so long. You know. It's called the Auto Freedom. 355 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: And what you just said is a testament to you know, um, 356 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: something that a lot of people not talking about, you know, 357 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: the conversation about prison reform and reforming you know, repealing 358 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: laws and all that is is is a great thing, 359 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: but there's there's also the conversation that I don't feel 360 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 1: like we're havn't enough, and that's the conversation of all 361 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: dudes are actually not knowing what to do when they 362 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: get back, you understand, and not having as many options, 363 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: not having so many opportunities, And a lot of it 364 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: starts with the way you're thinking, you know. So I 365 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: put together a book, you know, it's sort of like 366 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: my version of a of a forty eight Laws of power, 367 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: you know, but it's based it's me speaking to my 368 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: street niggas and my niggas that just you know, either 369 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: it just came home or was about to come home, 370 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: and it's my philosophy and my views on on on 371 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: the steps that I feel like should be taken or 372 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: could be taken to maintain your freedom. You know, because 373 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: before you can be successful at any anything, whether it's 374 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: some rap shit or anything to do with entertainment or 375 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you gotta be successful at being free. 376 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: So a lot of that start with the way you think, 377 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: and the way you think about your moves, and where 378 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: you think about your freedom, and the way you're position yourself. 379 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's going to determine how you how you 380 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, how you how you turn out because how 381 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: many of us have been been watching dudes go to 382 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: prison for the last twenty years or whatever, you know 383 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, and he just can't get it right. So, um, 384 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: that's something that I that I'm that I'm coming out 385 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: with soon. Well, it's almost designed for him not to 386 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: get it right. You figured. You get a cat that 387 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: comes home, you know, especially the homies that's been in 388 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: for ten or more years, even five years, you come out, 389 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: it's a whole different motherfucking world you're behind. Yeah, what 390 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: what makes you makes you wake up? It's not even 391 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: that it is I call a penitentiary propaganda. Uh. You 392 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: make a lot of a lot of this. You make 393 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot of I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do 394 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: that when you're in the penitentiary or ain't coming back 395 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: here no more. You make a lot of promises to yourself. 396 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: But when you smell the different air, when you smell freedom, 397 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: you you're going right back to where you came from. 398 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 1: And a lot of us don't pay attention. Before I 399 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: walk out of this door, I've really got to make 400 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: this decision and where I'm gonna go this way out 401 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: that way. Nine times out of the time we are 402 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: thinking like that because I didn't did through years sitting down. 403 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: The first thing I want to do is go get 404 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: up in something next, gonna hang with the homies that 405 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: everybody know them out. Now once you do that, everybody 406 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: coming to you on the homies. Just get out of 407 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: the prison. Now you feel like that penitentiary celebrity. You 408 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: feel me now out Now you're hanging and before you 409 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: know it, you can't. You can't grab that grip again 410 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, damn, I'm supposed to be following protocol 411 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and I said I was gonna do this and do that. 412 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: You ain't thinking like that. No more penitentiary propaganda. Thinking 413 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: about one thing. But you've got something else on your mind, 414 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: and that's the homies, that's the hood, that's the chicks. 415 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Now you get somebody to lace you with a little 416 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: something something here, This will hold you over. Now you 417 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: all you you're back in the streets. You know what 418 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And before you knew it, you're on the violation. 419 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: Now you're down. That propaganda is coming right back. Hear you. 420 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have did this. When I come home after 421 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: this year two years, I ain't gonna do this. And 422 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: then you find yourself right back in the same ship. 423 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: So it's pretty much lying to yourself while we're in prison, 424 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: and then when we get out of prison, we're so 425 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: happy to be free, we go right back to the 426 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: same bullshit. So being in prison, you gotta be honest 427 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: with yourself, and you gotta know where you want to 428 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: go once that gate open and they give you that 429 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: little money to walk out of there. I've seen it done, 430 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: I've done it. I've been out of prison since the 431 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: night and haven't seen one since. So I know, and 432 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: I knew, and no female gonna bring me back to prison, 433 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna let the homies bring me back 434 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: to prison because there's nothing in there. Once the CAVI. 435 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: Once you realize that, I can't nobody send you back 436 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: to prison but yourself. M yeah, because once once you 437 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: realize the kind of the cards that stacked again, the 438 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: deck is stacked against you anyway, because you figured you 439 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: get a nigger to come home, right, he got every 440 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: intention he gonna get back with his baby mom's. He 441 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: gonna go find him a job. He gonna get him 442 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: in this little job. Right. You gotta lie on the 443 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: application because they ask you, have you ever been a 444 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: felon and you know, so you you haven't been told 445 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: no so many times, you finally say, fucking I'm gonna 446 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: putting on this motherfuckering See what happened. So you're working 447 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: at the job, you get you a little gig. You're 448 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: there for two or three months, and they come back 449 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: and say, hey, um, yeah, your background check done, came 450 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: back funked up. You gotta go. So you're doing this 451 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: two or three times. You get frustrated because you gotta 452 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: broad at home and she's been holding you down, probably 453 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: sending your commissaries ship all this time. So now you're 454 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: at home. You ain't became nothing but another bill for 455 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: this woman. At this point, she's taking care of the kids, 456 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: she's taking care of this you know. Now she's taking 457 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: care of you. So it's like, you gonna go do 458 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: whatever the hell you gotta go do. You gonna have 459 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: to Hony frank you a sack. You're gonna go do 460 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. The next thing you know, you're 461 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: back in there. It's almost like the whole probation ship, 462 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: and we don't talk about that a whole bunch of times, 463 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: and this show it's like a big trick bag Wow, 464 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: that's what that's Well, you gotta look at it though. 465 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: You know when you come home the peniti you're still 466 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna wear sooner or later. Yeah, it's gonna be sucking 467 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: her like you because your fresh out. Um, she's gonna 468 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: get tired of that and she's gonna be used to it, 469 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: so she goes back to the same ship she's doing. 470 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: Who want to take care of her own as man? 471 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: And so we gotta figure out us being black people. 472 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: We don't want to work at taco bit. We ain't 473 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna work at the bullshit. That's a job. Not thinking 474 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm just coming from the penitentiary. I'm gonna take whatever 475 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: the funk I can get and I'm wanting them cats. 476 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, that and that if you come 477 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: from that the hood, like yeah, I got a name 478 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: and you're supposed to be something ship, So you're resulting 479 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: in the fun that something to go back to the exactly, 480 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: come on, that's what you want to go back to. 481 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: So coming home and then trying to do security being 482 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: a security guard at at Walmart at night are somewhere 483 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: like that. It's only gonna last ninety days because you've 484 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: got a record and I was lucky because here comes 485 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: should you know what I'm saying. They ain't gotta they 486 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: ain't gotta put on the uniform, but the uniform I 487 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: got exactly my my my representation from the neighborhood is 488 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: my application. That's verified. I ain't have to fill out 489 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: ship and you don't have to do too much of nothing. 490 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: But then that type of ship to send you back 491 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: to the penitentiary because going into the industry on the 492 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: on the outside of it, I'm not a rapper, just 493 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: just a force. You know what I'm saying, can send 494 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: you back to prison. But no, if if, if, if 495 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: it's here in humantality, I'm not going back to prison, 496 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: and I can't let down when you catch send me 497 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: back to prison. Then that that makes you above the 498 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: rest of them, because this is where everybody thinks we're 499 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: supposed to go. I'm not following you there. Yeah, you know, 500 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: and speaking of you know, speaking of Sugar and all 501 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: of them, Man, you got a solid reputation. I got 502 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: a whole bunch, we got a whole bunch of mutual 503 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: homies and stuff. And I told him, I said, hey, man, 504 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: we go how that. Mainly it was like that's gonna 505 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: be a good dude, y'all show, you know, talking him 506 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: about this net and everything. What do you feel about 507 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: the rise of the gangs in New York? Not that 508 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: you gotta you know, I ain't necessarily an opinion, But 509 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy, ain't it. Yeah? You see, it 510 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: started in prison. I was in prison when it started, 511 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: and I understood why it was starting, you know, Um, 512 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you know it was it was a time when um, 513 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: you know a lot of the Hispanic brothers, you know, 514 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: they was ganged up and you know it was it was, 515 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: it was it was an error where you know it 516 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: was it was it was more or less kind of 517 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: dumb against blacks and we wasn't unified. So um, for 518 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: my understanding, you know, and Cet, a couple of brothers 519 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: got together and was just like, Yo, we're gonna, we're gonna, 520 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna ban together and and that's that was the 521 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: start of the Bloods and it and it became what 522 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: it became. So I understood what it what it was for. 523 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: And you know that that unity that that was needed 524 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: in that era. Um, you know, it became, it became 525 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: what it became. You know. I never I never was 526 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: involved with the gangs, because that's not the ver I 527 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: really come from, you know. Um, I'm just maybe a 528 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: couple of years before that, you know, and it was 529 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: it was cool to be able to stand on your 530 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: own and have your name on your own and not 531 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: need nobody or not, you know, not go to jail 532 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: and become this or become that. You know. So, uh, 533 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: it is what it is right now, bro, Like you 534 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I wish it was a lot 535 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: more leadership though, you know, I wish, you know, especially 536 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: in my part of town. Like I wish it was 537 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot more solid leadership, you know, because there's a 538 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of things that I feel like they can do. Uh, 539 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: and it could be more more useful doing, you know, 540 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: if it was if the leadership was better. Yeah, I 541 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: feel that, man. And that's I think that's all around 542 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: the country, dog because these you know, these these young niggers, man, 543 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: they kind of think different, not kind of they think different. 544 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I think they do before they think. You feel what 545 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm in And when you don't have that big homie 546 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: kind of leading you, it ain't numb but destruction and 547 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: death to fund him, guarantee. But that's right. See, we 548 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: was young niggas, and we didn't. We didn't, we didn't 549 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: think you know, So I understand that aspect of it, 550 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, but when nowadays, when it when the when 551 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: the big homie is not is not even as smart 552 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: or as intelligent as the as the little homies, then 553 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: what what do you have? So when your big homie 554 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: is never never amounted to anything, it's never you know, uh, 555 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: surpassed things in life or is not experienced enough in life, 556 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: then then all you're gonna have is destruction, you know, 557 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: And all he's been doing all his life is spinning 558 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: in destructing, then that's all he gonna So he's gonna 559 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: get food too, so he's gonna give birth to the 560 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, it's the blind leading the blind. And 561 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, really with the aspect because you know, like 562 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: I said, we are always young niggas. At one time 563 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: and as far as we was on the West Coast, 564 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: we didn't have you know what you would call that 565 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: that that leader structure in the games and ship. I mean, 566 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: even though we were all together, it was like you know, 567 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: you stand on your own. Even though we watched each 568 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: other back and we together ship, we didn't have like 569 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: just one main motherfucker controlling or structuralized in the neighborhood game. 570 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: So I think as far as we were on the 571 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: West Coast, it was different from us, way different. We 572 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: had big homies. You're gonna always have big homies because 573 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: you you got those guys, you followed us older than you. 574 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: But other than that, we never had somebody to shake, 575 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: y'all gonna go over here, y'all this now, I wouldn't 576 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: having that. Some neighborhoods, some neighborhoods did, but like my neighborhood, 577 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: we didn't have that. Like the markets nuns of of yesteryear, 578 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: back in the days, they were leaders. They were the 579 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: ones that put certain things together for their neighborhoods, and 580 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of cats followed followed that. But in 581 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, we didn't have the O G that's that's 582 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: putting the ship together. The majority of our ogs work 583 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: on some other ship going back and forth to prison 584 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: just on GP. Couldn't even give that number back, uh 585 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: drugs or some ship like that, robbery ship like that. 586 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: They wasn't sitting on the block the homies y'all sucking up, y'all. 587 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have that, So I didn't look at the 588 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: big homies as I need to go get at these dudes, 589 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: or don't do this because it's repercussion to it. I 590 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: did what I wanted to do how I wanted to 591 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: do it, and I had catch that ran with me 592 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: and we put ship together. So we never had a leader. 593 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's whether you have a leader 594 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: or whatever title these you know people use. Eight seventeen 595 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: years old, you can think for yourself, and a lot 596 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: of cats don't think for theirself. They think they have 597 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: to follow. Just like you said you wouldn't you weren't 598 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: part of a game you was doing. You You got 599 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: your reputation off of you. I called that gangster by 600 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: nature and not by choice, because you found your own way. 601 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: You stood up and and did you and people recognize 602 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: you for you, not for the hood. But they recognize 603 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: you'll get down. So that's all that is. Man is 604 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't need a title to to fit in or 605 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: feel like I'm part of the group. Every man needs 606 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: to think for herself, but some some some neighborhoods they don't. 607 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: Some neighborhoods do. And I would say our interpretation of 608 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 1: l A we always kind of thought it was like, 609 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, because the word even even the word big 610 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: homie comes from there, right mistaken. Um, It's like you 611 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: got the little homies at the big homies, and the 612 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: big homies is basically the ones that's controlling everything depending 613 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: on what said or what hood you know. Yeah, man, 614 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you a big thing to fun. 615 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: The big homies up all over the country was cracky, 616 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, eighty five through motherfuckering the early nineties and ships. 617 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of dudes went from you know, 618 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: because you know, you gotta look at it like this. 619 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: In eight eight eight, you know, smoking the Primo were 620 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: doing some blow with some ballership. You know what I mean. 621 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: It was some ballers ship. You know, you see three 622 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. That was some baller ship. 623 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: You know. You had niggas who had the pinky rings. 624 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: They you know, hit the one of these and everything was. 625 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: We started looking because we was all drug you know, 626 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: five six niggas rushing in the car all that ship. 627 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: So you got body was doing Sherman ships, niggas way 628 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: on all that he's just doing seventy yeah the sermon, 629 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, so so drugs pretty much sucked up up. 630 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, drugs made a whole bunch of niggas rich. 631 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: It got a whole bunch of niggas in the penitentiary, 632 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: and destroyed a whole bunch of motherfucking lives, and destroyed 633 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the big homies and destroyed the structure 634 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: in the hood. But it only affects you if you 635 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: follow that, if you follow up one of those guylines, 636 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: then you ain't gonna want to do ship. You ain't 637 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: gonna want to be productive. You ain't gonna do it, 638 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: you feel me, So none of that shoudn't even matter. 639 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: People just gotta look at it like I'm doing this. 640 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: I gotta get down, don't buy no dope and didn't 641 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: know you finished smoke that ship? You feel me, You 642 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: defeat the purpose. But you know the thing is, everybody 643 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: started out. I'll never funk with that ship. But I 644 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: should see my older homeboys smoking in premos. A lot 645 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: of them, dudes, they were smoking the primos. Eventually that 646 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: a premo was as a joint lace with some crack, 647 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: some yeah, with some coke. Ain't in the premre mode. 648 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: We call that ship a wooly yeah. So that's what 649 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Woutane Clean was talking about them songs. That's because that's 650 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: the one that that Wouly ship. Yeah Smoka woa, yeah, 651 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, And so that funked up a lot of 652 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: motherfucker's on the load. And you know, one of the 653 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: questions I want to ask you, and you a guy 654 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: that's qualified to answer this. You coming from the place 655 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: that you come from, man, and you first getting this 656 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: recording industry, one of the most fakest motherfucking businesses in 657 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: the world. Did the ship kind of like throw you 658 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: for a loop a little bit? It did because I 659 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: thought they wanted to see some real ship. So I 660 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: started putting hands on that and I said and it 661 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you really did that. And I was like, yeah, 662 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: you ain't want to see that. I thought that this 663 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: is what y'all, This is what y'all wanted. You wanted 664 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: the real thing, right, you wanted the genuine article, right, 665 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: you know. But that's not it's a goodness from exact, 666 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, because it's a lot of mentality was wrong. 667 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: I was like, all these niggas is fake. We're gonna 668 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: come in the game and just over aggressive. Just my 669 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: mentality was long, and I wish somebody would have told me, 670 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: really explained to me that this was really just a 671 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: business and it was really just about images, and it 672 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: was really about marketing exactly. It's just it's just what 673 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: it is. It's just that because you because when you 674 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: do some real ship and you and we scared your 675 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: and we scared your money away, your motherfucker's will be 676 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: ready to cancel you like it ain't ship, Like oh god, damn, 677 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: this motherfucker is a real nigger. This motherfucker. They liked 678 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: to pretend ship and they like the facade of what 679 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: it looks like. But when they run into a motherfucker 680 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: who were really running and kicking your no one pull 681 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: a pistol on and slapped the ship out of motherfucker, 682 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: they get no good. They back then, but then they 683 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: still want to make money off the ship. Well, they're 684 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: gonna make money off you as long as you you 685 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: You you're valuable and you gotta always have some value, 686 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is you, you you can 687 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: mess up a lot of your opportunities not knowing. So 688 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot of a 689 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: lot of me bumping my head in the industry was 690 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: because I was coming directly off the streets I was. 691 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: I was coming from Prisident and I was from prisoner. 692 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: I went back to the street, and it was just like, 693 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: we're coming right out of the street right into the industry. 694 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: So we don't have the game or we don't have 695 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: nobody to really say, yo, look, let me sit down 696 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: and really give you the game for what it really is. 697 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: Because you you you you're intelligent, but you need to 698 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: just shop in a couple other things. And you know, 699 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: had I known that then, I would I would uh, 700 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: I would not have cut off some of my opportunities early, 701 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: you know. But I figured it out, you know, as 702 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: time went on. You know, it's it's it's just a 703 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: game man, It's it's marking in you know, it's a 704 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: it's a business bro. Oh yeah, it's definitely a businessman. 705 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: And I think it kicks, you know, I don't know, 706 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: some talented dudes, man, some talented brothers that street and 707 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: came in the ship and really just lost their mind 708 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: because it wasn't what they thought it was and they 709 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: wound up not being able to progress, you know, and 710 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: it's like you just can't. It's so funny. And I 711 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: told somebody that cats like the Takashi six nine. They 712 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: are producted all the bullshit. They are product of all 713 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: the bullshit. That's the ship that got created by the industry, man, 714 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: because you figure these kids seen that. That's the biggest 715 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: thing though, man, Because I see a lot of people 716 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: coming to this thing, man, and it ain't what they 717 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: thought it was, and they get disappointed because they meet 718 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: niggas that they thought was that. Dude, and you meet 719 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: them and you're like, damn, I'm disappointed, because yeah, yeah 720 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: it is. And I feel like us being niggers though 721 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: a lot of times we were our heart and our 722 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: emotions on our sleeves and it wasn't really designed for us. 723 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you, for me, the moment that 724 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: I stopped, I stopped taking things personal is the moment 725 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: I started to do better. The moment when I figured 726 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: out that that the industry and the people that that 727 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: that inhabited are not like me, and they don't have 728 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: the same values, they don't have the same preciples, they 729 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: don't have the same integrity me and I'm gonna be 730 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: offended all the time because they're gonna always do things 731 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: and offend me. The minute that I stopped taking it 732 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: personal is the is the minute that I I was 733 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: able to progress a lot more because I was like, 734 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: it took I took it, took the emotion out of everything, 735 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: and I wasn't women you know my emotions. I was 736 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: like every time somebody said that day was gonna call 737 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: me and didn't call me back, or you know, stop 738 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: answering their phone. Those things drive street is crazy. Like 739 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: if we can't take that because we did, trust me, 740 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: trust me, because I'm gonna tell you we do with 741 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: and personally we did with I, work we did with Nigga. 742 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: Not hitting you back will make you want to go 743 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: slap the ship out of there exactly. And if it's 744 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: on some music ship, you gotta be just like you 745 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: know something, fuck it, let me keep you pushing the ship. 746 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: Because this is I don't understand the concept of where 747 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm at with Nigga. Goddamn, you can't even hit me 748 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: back or the respect that even just answering the phone call, 749 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: especially I got to do with it. In this business, 750 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: you feel when they don't come from the same walks 751 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: of life you come from. This motherfucker probably sitting at 752 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: his desk every day. You know what, I'm saying on 753 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: some front, ship or people don't even some some people 754 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: work their words not even important to them. So so 755 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: certain things that's important to you, that's important to us, 756 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: they don't have that same value system. So then you 757 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: you gotta measure your expectations on them. I can't expect 758 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: him to to to to put value in his word 759 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: when he wasn't raised to do so. If he was 760 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: comfortable or grew up and telling lies or being deceitful 761 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: and treacherous to people was the way that he was raised, 762 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: and that's where he is. And we in the industry 763 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: and in the game, it's full of that, you know. 764 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: So like I said, like me, I had to start 765 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: to measure my my expectations because if I didn't, then 766 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: it is driving crazy. You want to you can't it 767 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: sound crazy on everything? Oh yeah, for sure. And one 768 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: of my biggest tasks. That's what I had to tell 769 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 1: big bro James. Right when we first started doing this ship. 770 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: You know, you get a lot of people that call you, 771 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: they bring up ideas and ship, you get excited, you 772 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: get ready, and the motherfucker's disappear. I was used to 773 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: that stuff me, you know, working for the publishing company 774 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: and just being management to being an industry. You know, 775 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: somebody tell me something, I don't get excited to the 776 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: check come and in some cases until that motherfucker clear, 777 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: because I don't got a bunch of bounce and the 778 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: ass checks before two. And this ship, you know what 779 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just ship. You know, it's like motherfucker's scheming 780 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: and ship. But you can't take it personal, bro, because 781 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: that's just what they were all else. And the moment 782 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: you put your hands on one of them, Nigga's dog 783 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: will say something about it. The next thing you know, 784 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: you're really not jumping off no more, like that shocked 785 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: the ship out of this motherfucking get it over. Won't 786 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: lie to me no more. Yeah, and I don't even 787 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 1: think it's I don't even think it's so much line. 788 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: Hold on one second, where's that feedback coming from? Close 789 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: the door together? He got two phones together, My bad 790 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: man nephew in here whiling out. Yeah, he's doing his 791 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: mother for the thing. But that that's the thing. Man. 792 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 1: You can't take none of this ship personal. You won't 793 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: have nothing going on because I know around the time 794 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: that she was doing your thing, you had a reputation 795 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: for slapping the shout of niggas, damn, and that's what 796 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: we was here for. Hold on, bro, I'm sorry you 797 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: got them. I mean that's what you're going, that's what's 798 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: gonna do. I mean, like I said, if you come 799 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: from some certain walks of life, I mean you're not 800 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: You're not gonna put up with certain ships. Man from 801 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: Novody and especially in this this game of music and entertainment, 802 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: niggas be on some funny ship sometimes and like I said, 803 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: it just be too many niggas perpetrating to be real 804 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: beyond phone face ship. And sometimes you can't even hold 805 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: that ship back. Then your your the natural self come 806 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: out and man, I just gotta check nigga. I just 807 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: have to because this ship is uncalled for. Some niggas 808 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: checked sometimes though, Yeah, for real. And you can answer 809 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: this if you want, too, mainly or nothing. Who was 810 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: the nigga in the industry that just disappointed you the most? 811 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,479 Speaker 1: And you met this nigga you couldn't wait the meeting 812 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: on when you met him, he was like this motherfucker WIENI. Um, 813 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: that's that's happened many times. Um, It's it's too it's 814 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: too there's too many of the names. Specifically, it's it's 815 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's the saying that you shouldn't meet your idols, Bro, 816 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: you shouldn't meet your heroes or because they never add 817 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: up to what you thought that there was gonna be, 818 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's why mostique is the 819 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: greatest thing. You know, you seem close with you really 820 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: a fall so you know, um, yeah that happened many 821 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: times though, Bro, Like, I'm like, this nigga is really 822 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: a bird like bird? Yeah, that's bird that that that's 823 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: New York explained. That's New York explained the bird a 824 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: bird bird as laking. Yeah, you know what the thing 825 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: is though it's worth the opposite for me too. Sometimes 826 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: sometimes the niggas I thought was when these I meet 827 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: these niggas and were somewhere and track up on this 828 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: nigga really with the business that happened to Yeah, you know, 829 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: he just don't talk about it like that. And that's 830 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: what I noticed. The dudes that don't put up that 831 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: persona that's cool and everything, Like when you see you, 832 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: you ain't out that wilding. Now you're cool, you're personal, 833 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 1: but you're a nice guy until you start some bullshit. Yeah, well, 834 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's because you know when you when you are, 835 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: when you're comfortable with who you are, you don't gotta 836 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: project something else. You know, you know you do, you smile, 837 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: you laugh, you you know, you're humble, you know, you're 838 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: just comfortable in your skin as a man. You know 839 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, you know how this 840 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: is is always a nigger. That's that's that's that's popping 841 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: the hardest or ice cream and the strongest. He's probably 842 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: the weakest. Well, I tell you, I tell you this. 843 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: I give props to the niggas where every thing I 844 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: thought he was. I was a Ghetto Boys fan coming up, 845 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: big Ghetto Boys fan. Willie motherfucking D is the nigger 846 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: on the records and the nigg in person, cool brother, 847 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: cool nigga. I don't meant a whole bunch of cats 848 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: like that. There's just like everything you thought they was 849 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna be. And I actually saw him put hands when 850 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: I nick in Texas one time at a restaurant. Willie 851 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: D got hands, you know, So he was everything I 852 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: thought I was. Man and I'll miss the dudes. It's 853 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: like disappointment. I'm like you, I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna 854 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: get a political hands. It's been so many I choose 855 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: not to name him, you know, but you know, let's 856 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: come back to this music ship, Dog, because you would, 857 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: dude that wasn't supposed to get what you got. You know, 858 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: you came out and you put out a big ass 859 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: motherfucking record. You came with the hater record that had 860 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: the clost banging, because that was a big record out 861 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: here on the West Coast, Dog, I had, I had 862 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: my biggest record is only Above? Oh yeah, yeah, all 863 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: was bigger? Yeah of course, yeah, All the Above was 864 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: your biggest record. But they funk with you out here though, Dog, Yeah, yeah, 865 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: I spent I'm I'm in and out of l A 866 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah for sure, Man, when you make 867 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 1: sure the next time you go out here, we could 868 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: do this in person. Yeah. So it's yeah, it's certain 869 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: niggas that come into the industry. Like I said, I 870 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: don't listen to a lot of motherfucker's, but you know, 871 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: may know you as a motherfucker I listened to when 872 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: you first hit the scene. You know, I never listened. 873 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't like to listen to new 874 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: ship because it don't be that that feeling of the 875 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: yester years of ship while I came from But you 876 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: you had often music like side I funk with a 877 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: lot of New York niggas and they're funking with New 878 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: York for a long time, shout out, want to get 879 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: pret um. But you had that music, and you was 880 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: one nigga that we out here on the West Coast 881 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: gravitating it too, because you came from the same type 882 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: of walks of life. Get me so expect my nag. Yeah, 883 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: you know. And one thing I want to touch you onto. 884 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: You got a podcast, man, it's kind of popping, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 885 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: Getchen talk man. We're doing very well. Yeah man, y'all 886 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: pee that out too. Yeah, you got a lot of 887 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: good You got a lot of new content on their Yeah, 888 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: it up on that motherfuck Yeah definitely, thank you man. Yeah, 889 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: y'all be cracking up over there, because I was talking 890 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: to Chris Morrow about you. Huh. He loved him something 891 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: he was talking, but he was talking about you. Man. 892 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: He thinks very highly that your dog definitely think the 893 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: thing very highly. Man. So what's next, dog, Like, if 894 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: we're getting some more records, like what's definitely? Man, I 895 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: just I just dropped the project and UM and uh 896 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: in December, but I've been holding some records though. Um 897 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: I got a whole project Gune. I'm just trying to 898 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: lock in this distribution and we're just gonna keep pushing, man. 899 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: Um I'll be back on the West Coast and finished 900 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: this movie that we were shooting on the West Coast 901 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: or l A in about two weeks. You know, we 902 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 1: got the book coming, you know, more podcasts coming, and 903 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna keep We're gonna keep just giving 904 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: you every every part of me, just in different components now. 905 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 1: So now we ain't just doing music before. So now 906 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: you know we're hustling on different different angles. Well that 907 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: that that's where the game that kind of went to. Man, 908 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: you can't just do music no more. It's like music 909 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: don't almost became just like the calling card for all 910 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: the other ship that you've got going on. You're almost 911 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: like a media personality now, right, music component, Yeah, you 912 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: got to just be a personality all across the all 913 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: across the board. Now it's not just about you know, 914 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: the music. And the thing about when you've got other 915 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,439 Speaker 1: components is that when you're making money from the other 916 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: components that keeps the music pure, like you ain't gotta 917 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: chase after trying to make a radio record or whatever. 918 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, make the music pure and make the music 919 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: for your fans. You know, you don't gotta you don't 920 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: gotta try to be in the race, you know, you 921 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: just you just you know, stick to your call, stick 922 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: to your fan base, and just delivered to them. You 923 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: know that, And you make sure we get them ricords, man, 924 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: because I might as well break this news now, man, 925 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: we just got picked up for nine and nine markets 926 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: for our radio show. Man, wake your punk ass up, 927 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: um to make sure we get the rigords. Dog. You 928 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that a media based and BDS too. Dog. 929 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying something important. You know what 930 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can get that one spining with us 931 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: is go count nine times on there, you know, So 932 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: make sure we get it. You know what I'm saying 933 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: that we got real Nicks playing ricords, now, Yeah, that's 934 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. We're trying to play some 935 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: real ship. We ain't trying to play this phony ship. 936 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, we definitely need some good music and from 937 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: from artists that we respect. You know what I'm saying. 938 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: I don't know bullshit. Like I said, people nowadays can't 939 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: take criticism with their music. That's what I tell motherfucker's 940 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: every day. Let me ask you this. So when he 941 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: can't make good music, we can't make goods. Can we 942 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: make good music? Can a bird make good music? I 943 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: don't know that. They probably they they ain't. They ain't 944 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: want that lifestyle, so they can't make our good music. Well, 945 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: you know this will about some phony ship, yea. And 946 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean they can talk about some stacks of money 947 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: and pulling up in the Lamborghini and you know my 948 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: chain this and my chain that make popping. But you 949 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: know they ain't spent that realism about the hard walks 950 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: of life and then they are struggling and how you 951 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: had to come up and you know how you have 952 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: to go to prison and walk this walk and walked 953 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: his line to become the motherfucker you are to day. 954 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: So our just can't really talk that talk. Well, I'm 955 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, dog, and I don't want nobody 956 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: out there don't go take my little clip and turn 957 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: into steals on the this and such and such. Rick 958 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: Ross makes incredible music, but that is the most phony ship. 959 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't never heard of my life. Dog. It's like 960 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: it's like watching the movie Dog. It ain't nothing real 961 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: about it, but it's great music though you can't take away. Yeah. 962 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: I like Rick Ross too. I love him. Ain't nothing 963 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: wrong with him. This is what I'm saying. Wants you 964 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: to hear me out. See James like he about to 965 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: jump on me about this. Dear me out. Yeah, but 966 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: this is this is this is this is steals a pi. Yeah. 967 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: This is what I think though, And this is one 968 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: of the things that and I think Ross is incredible, dude. 969 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: And Ross actually a solid cat. That's the homely that's 970 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: my nigga. But Ross said ship that you almost can't 971 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: compete with it as an artist, you know when he 972 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: talked about I'm with with the real Noriega. I'm you know, 973 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm selling a hundred keys a week and I'm doing 974 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: this and that. Man, some of that ship is be 975 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: kind of like overboard over the time. But that ain't 976 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: for you to judge. I'm just I'm playing this me 977 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: making my opinion. I ain't not gonna be success with that, 978 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: all right. Let me ask you all the question. Man, 979 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: Since rap being going on. Motherfucker's has been saying ship, 980 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: and everybody knew that you ain't living that life. Everybody 981 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: know you ain't working with Gandhi, you ain't never met 982 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: the motherfucker. Now there you go questions. So that means 983 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,760 Speaker 1: a bird ass niked with an active imagination can But 984 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: this is the whole point. There's dudes who write books, right, 985 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: some dudes write fictional ship that ain't you whatever whatever, 986 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: And that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. And 987 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: you have to break it down entertainments in the fucking 988 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 1: taming and that's what I'm saying, walk of life at 989 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: you come from. I'm talking to strip some real ship 990 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: to a nigga, you feel me. But other than that, 991 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: you have to take it for entertainment. I'm like entertaining 992 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: your fucking ask. And I can talk about it because 993 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: the real noriaga and I can talk about a hundred 994 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: key loos and dope and I could see what I 995 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: watched from them, served or whatever. But you have to 996 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: take it for what it is exactly. And that's why 997 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: I said that. What I said was to prove a 998 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: point because I actually with Rick Ross. Rick Ross makes 999 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: great music has great production everything, but at the end 1000 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: of the day, this ship is entertainment, so it's only 1001 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: gonna beat. Everybody do a little embellish and I think 1002 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: just because it's sounds flying, you know what I mean, 1003 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: Like the nigger to say I had twenty bitches in 1004 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: the bed of my toes. You know what I mean, 1005 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna say he didn't like you don't know about 1006 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: every day get down. So how do you know I 1007 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: get now, Yeah, exactly, I don't know. I didn't know 1008 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: the real Noriaga. Hey man, I'm just saying you got 1009 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta keeps you know. I'm saying that this 1010 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: with this, with this show for it to get good 1011 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: things out of ship. You know, I mean, I ain't 1012 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: see anything. May No, did I sound disrespectful when I 1013 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: see it? Then no, I don't think it was disrespecting. 1014 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: But it's it go back to what I was saying before. Though, 1015 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 1: like for us, like us coming from where we come from, 1016 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: a lot of times we don't we don't detach the 1017 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: entertainment from the real life. We have to learn to 1018 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: do that. Like like it was just saying, like it's 1019 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: dudes that don't come from the lifestyle. But they're great artists. 1020 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: They're great writers, a lot of street niggs blay oh Man, 1021 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: and they ain't living that life. At some point, it 1022 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: don't even matter no more because it's just art. We 1023 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: gotta separate, We gotta separate our feelings for for what 1024 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: we what we think is real, you know, from from 1025 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: the actual movie and in the music is the movie 1026 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: like like he's like, they don't said stop taking ship personal. 1027 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: You fine, I don't because this nigga might have never 1028 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: sold a sack in his life, because I usually on 1029 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: the corner selling sacks. But I can't get mad because 1030 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: he's rapping about it. It's more funking money. Grew up 1031 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: in Sartos or some ship like that. It never touched 1032 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 1: the dumpe sack. But you know about it. You didn't 1033 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: heard about it, you know, watching up movies about it. 1034 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: He didn't cousin them, went to jail or some ship. 1035 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: So I feel like I got the authority to write 1036 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: about me selling sacks. And I think that's what most 1037 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,959 Speaker 1: artists get it from anyway, because it ain't been wrong 1038 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: with you know, if you don't have hardboys, you know, 1039 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: it's like this, I don't see it like, I'm pretty 1040 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: sure James don't. I'm pretty shake James. Trust me, you 1041 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: are the inspiration for somebody's rapping music out here. Somebody 1042 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 1: ever ship this, let me ship this. Rappers are like 1043 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: actors when you get guys that that do their homework, 1044 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: listen to certain rappers and get that flow. And because 1045 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: some of them sound like somebody and they feel that 1046 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: they perfected that, now I gotta write about something they 1047 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 1: ain't never some of the Jim Catch ain't never left better, 1048 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: something left here. So now they're rapping about something like 1049 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about Rick Ross. Rick Ross rapping about something. 1050 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: We don't know what you're doing. But and you know 1051 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: people don't know, but he's perfected. He's making a lot 1052 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: of money. Why not just taking this? I mean as 1053 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: it is, and it is with music. That's what I 1054 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: looked at this because some of them young Chicago nigga 1055 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: sound like they really doing this. Ship They talked about 1056 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: music that by his covering. Like I said, when you 1057 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: ain't next to a motherfucker, you ain't come from that circle. 1058 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: I just you gotta take it for what it is. 1059 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: And motherfucker make com music. I don't know what a 1060 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker did he might have shot a thick at ten times, 1061 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: or he might have not did ship and saw the 1062 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: ship on TV last night, wrote a verse of body. 1063 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: But who am I to judge this motherfucker because you 1064 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: don't come from my circle. That's a real song. I'm 1065 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: looking at you making music now. Whether your ship is 1066 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: authentic or not, or you're a real motherfucker, I don't know. 1067 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: That's to be judged by a lot of people. But 1068 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: I ain't got time to be fucking with your ship 1069 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: and trying to judge who you not. And then we 1070 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: go with that man, I say, he just sitting in 1071 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: the preserve and this ship. I ain't gonna say nothing. Hey, 1072 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying listen. It's it's like like I just 1073 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: said that. He said the same thing. You know what 1074 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean? When you're pocketing is what it is. It's entertainment, bro, 1075 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: it's entertainment. We we we we don't know how to 1076 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: detach you that outlook, because I got I got listening, 1077 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: I got I got homies that called me from prison 1078 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: that just don't get it right, y know? What's up 1079 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: with this nicking? These nick is talking on this that 1080 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: they really like that and I try to tell him, like, Bro, 1081 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: at this point, it don't even matter. We'll do it 1082 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: matter because the fans is not based on that. Life 1083 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 1: is not based on that, you know what I mean. 1084 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: So it's just entertainment. Whoever's whoever's telling the story the 1085 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: best they could tell it. It's like it's life. It's 1086 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: like a act of just's like putting on his suit 1087 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 1: and getting in the movie. Right, yeah, and the reality 1088 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 1: ever else though, the fans don't give a funk anywhere 1089 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: as long as that ship sound dope. Really they got 1090 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: a problem with it, then it's gonna be tested sometime, 1091 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: and then you see what happens when niggas got real. 1092 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 1: Niggas got problems with it, and they pull your card 1093 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: and test you because they think you that nigga. Eventually 1094 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: the ship happens and ship hits the fan, and some 1095 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: of these niggas end up getting popped or dead or 1096 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. Because Bragadocian ship that you it can get 1097 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: you a different place to be able to accept it 1098 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: as man, this ship is music entertained these niggas talking 1099 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: about they kill a hundred motherfuckers or whatever. Man, it's 1100 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: music they wrapped into a beat, whatever, cool whatever it. 1101 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I don't know what your real 1102 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,399 Speaker 1: life is. Then I come from one walk of life. 1103 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: I know what I did, I know what James did. 1104 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,240 Speaker 1: We all think whatever. But on record they come on, man, 1105 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: that ship playing my card like some music nigga, and 1106 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: after it's done, they got cut it off. And I 1107 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: don't think you killed a hundred niggas because you wrapped 1108 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: about it on your record. Hell now, Arnold Schwartzenegger blew 1109 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: up a thousand niggas as a robot. You feel me, 1110 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: he ain't walking around this motherfucker like determinator. You can 1111 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: stop his ass too, like it ain't ship. You feel me? 1112 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: So please, you gotta take entertainment for what entertainment is 1113 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Yes, all days. So man, 1114 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,879 Speaker 1: where can people find you at? Dog? So what we're 1115 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: cann people find you at? Oh? Yeah, man, you know 1116 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm outside. Brother May hustle hard on everything, Man on 1117 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: hustle hard on everything, Instagram, Twitter, whatever it is. Man 1118 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: for shore Man, I appreciate you come, We appreciate you 1119 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: coming on the show Man and when you out here 1120 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: on west Man his brother about loving hip hop. We're 1121 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna answer question, James. I want to know what's handing 1122 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: with Loving hip Hop. He's a loving him to know 1123 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: the fun is going down and loving You talk, you talk, 1124 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 1: You're talking about as far as me being all that, Yeah, 1125 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean, how much of in this real? How much 1126 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: of it is just a strong well? I mean, I 1127 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: only have one explain is with Loving hip Hop? I 1128 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: was only on one season and and for me, it 1129 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: was just business. It was just strictly business. They you know, 1130 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: I was able to get myself in a situation where 1131 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: they were they was giving me a nice amount of 1132 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: money to do it, so, um, I did it, um, 1133 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: but it was it was business. I never watched the 1134 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: episode that I was on. I never participated in actually 1135 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: promoting it and none of that. You know, um, and 1136 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, shout out to the people that that did, 1137 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't look at uh doing TV, 1138 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: reality TV as being anything that I that I could use, 1139 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, for like music or stuff like that. It 1140 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: was just what it was. Was just a business moment. 1141 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't your reality. One more question. You said you 1142 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: never watched, you never listened to an episode? None of that. 1143 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: I've been feeling, I feel the same way. I never 1144 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: listened or watched down podcast that I was done watch 1145 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: my apisode. I don't like watching me. Okay, I don't 1146 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: watch the so even even with my old podcast, I don't. 1147 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't watch it the show. Did you look at 1148 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: any other podcasts? Are you a fan of any other 1149 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: podcasts out there? Um? A little bit of everybody. I 1150 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: tapped into this one, you know. Um, I tapped into everybody. 1151 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: You know Gilly uh wollow my man Noor. You know 1152 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm tapped in. I'm watching what's going on? I know 1153 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: I know about this. Join here. Yeah, some good people. Man. 1154 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: You come into podcast world right now. Man, you watch 1155 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: the Joe Button's podcast. You watched Joe button Ship not 1156 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 1: really man? What you think about the dance to chronicle through? Yeah? 1157 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 1: He said? He said, he tapped in with us. I've 1158 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: been I've been tapped into this one, okay, I've been 1159 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: tapping for show man when we wus you too, a 1160 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: whale dog And when you out here man in the 1161 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: next few weeks. If you've got times, I know you 1162 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: come out here to work and everything. If you've got times, 1163 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: we are little to have you. But I don't know 1164 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: if you smoke or not, but eight smoke like a motherfucker. 1165 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if you take a 1166 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: pun or not, but we make sure we got some 1167 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: of that good. You know what I'm saying. It's not 1168 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: good a week for you and we don't we don't. 1169 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: We don't spoke, primo. So you ain't gotta worry about 1170 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: getting the laces. Yeah, you know movies out here, and 1171 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: you ain't gotta worry about the trick. And you're like, 1172 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: got manway like this, you know I'm saying, but we 1173 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: but we do got some good weed though. Good okay, 1174 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: show man. But we appreciate you, bro, and sorry for 1175 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: the little delays early on the technical difficulties man, but 1176 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: we appreciate your dog man much bless is being to 1177 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: continue success man, for sure appreciate And this has been 1178 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: another episode the Gangster Chronicles. Man, we had mainly on 1179 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: here man today for epic episode. Man, y'all make sure 1180 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: y'all catch back up. What is next week? Sill we 1181 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: out we this motherfucker. Well. That concludes another episode of 1182 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 1: Against the Chronicles podcast. 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