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Speaker 3: Please watch this fight.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's not a thing of beauty. It's not great defense.

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Speaker 2: It's just two guys throwing haymakers upside each other's head

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people, but he's starting this

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Speaker 2: George forman grill. I got three of them, Oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, listen, obviously you know, and then the people

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Speaker 2: It's so sad. But like I said, I mean, George

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Speaker 2: That's also yeah, or Carlos and Tommy Smith being kicked

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Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of missus Smith, you know when now it

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Speaker 2: So George Foreman gone at the age of seventy six,

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Speaker 2: those impacted by the passing of George Forman, gone at

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Speaker 2: the age of seventy six. Oh Joe March Madness has

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Speaker 2: zero perfect brackets that remained. More than thirty four million

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Speaker 2: but Number three Kentuckies eighty four to seventy five win

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Speaker 3: So o jo.

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Speaker 2: This is the first time that a man's perfect bracket

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not surprised because if you look at the

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 3: Didn't win the second round.

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Speaker 2: Normally, it's hard for you to win a bracket if

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Speaker 2: This is why people love Mark Imagines so much, is

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Speaker 2: You're dealing with eighteen to twenty twenty one year old kids,

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Speaker 2: You're not dealing with professionals, although some of them are

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Speaker 3: But when you look at it like that, O Joe.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised I'm surprised that haven't been more upset

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Speaker 3: And so now the talent is spread.

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Speaker 2: Guys are not just going to Carolina, Duke in Kentucky

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Speaker 3: But that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened, and you go see this, start to

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Speaker 3: Now that homegrown talent they leave. Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna happen. Listen unless unless it's a

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Speaker 2: When you look at it, Joe, and like you said, okay,

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Speaker 2: that went to the USC.

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00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 3: That's a big film school.

440
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

441
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: Which one of those is it? Katzenberg, a David Geffen

442
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: that went to USC. It's one of them, cause s KG.

443
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: It's Spielberg cats and Geffen Spielberg Katzenberg and Geffen SKG.

444
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: But I know one of them got to score a

445
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 2: film school named after in USK.

446
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: Because they started Pixar, didn't.

447
00:21:50,000 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: He's KG Spielberg, David Geffen. But that's what you're gonna

448
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 2: have to have, O Joe, You're gonna have to have,

449
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: like you said, those big guys to have that kind

450
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: of money.

451
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 3: You see a Larry Ellison, his wife went to Michigan.

452
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: He intervened and got Rice Underwood to flip from LSU

453
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: to Michigan. Yep, DreamWorks, s KG, Spielberg, Kassenberg, and Geffen. Right,

454
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: which one with the USC because one of them has

455
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: a Sperium school named after I think it's David Geffen,

456
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: but it might be Kessenberg.

457
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 3: DreamWorks, Yeah, not Pixar.

458
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag sports eighteen points in the second round win

459
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: of a Baylor. The Blue Devil finished the first half

460
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: on a twelve oh run and the wind. The run

461
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: didn't slow down after the half, asserting their dominance and

462
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: an eighty nine sixty six win. Cooper Flag was once

463
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: again the best player on the court, finished you with

464
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: eighteen points, nine rebound, sixty cents in a block, while

465
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: Tyreeve Proctor added twenty five points and shot seven of

466
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: eight from the three. Duke have been dominant and it's

467
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: shown that they still can win it off. You're absolutely right, don't, Joe.

468
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: They look like the most impressive team that I've seen

469
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: in the tournament.

470
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: A from top to bottom, from top to bottom, in

471
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: every phase on the court, in transition, on offense, on defense,

472
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: everything about Duke looks phenomenal. I'm not sure. I think

473
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: they might be the anomaly. I might be using anominally

474
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: in the wrong context. In the instance where I'm talking about,

475
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: Duke might be in one of the teams where, regardless

476
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: of what day it is, they probably will beat everybody.

477
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who can compete with them or contend

478
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: with them. You will probably be better verson of well

479
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: knowledge in the game of collegiate basketball. To tell me,

480
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: is there a team that can ask, actually challenge Duke

481
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: Leanks to what I've seen so far and based on

482
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: what I've seen during the regular.

483
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: Season, right, hold on for a secret. What'd you say?

484
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: All of them went the USC, all of them have

485
00:23:53,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: schools named after them. Yeah, we're not surprised. So that's

486
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: how USC is able to get got be able to

487
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: flip your get Jeordi Datison after he wanted to blit

488
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: in the copper Ward that get him to come to USC.

489
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: But Cooper Flag he looked good.

490
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, hey he I mean you watched him high

491
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: school at Mount verdyuh Mount Verdi, and he.

492
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: Was sensational and he hadn't disappointed.

493
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: He looks like he's gonna be the presumptuous number one

494
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: overall pick in this upcoming draft.

495
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: Oh so he's not coming back.

496
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: I bet they't coming back. You want to go to

497
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 2: the you want to go to the NBA. How can

498
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: you get hired? A number one? I can see if

499
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: he's gonna be like a end the end of the

500
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: lottery pick. He's gonna be number one. To do go

501
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: back to do what?

502
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: It's so funny watching watching Washington play today and watching

503
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag. He just reminded me so much of myself

504
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: when I was in high school. Our game is very similar,

505
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: very similar. He can you know, he can score, he

506
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: can score from anywhere, mid range. You know, he put

507
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: the ball on the floor. Take people alone, you know

508
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: in the post back back to the basket I mean

509
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: means can you shoot the three a little bit? I

510
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: mean it's just very reminiscent of myself, you know, in

511
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: high school, back in nineteen ninety one.

512
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: And it's a joy to watch. It's a joy to watch.

513
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: Somebody say, Cooper Flag the best prospect, says Lebron. Did

514
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: you not just see Winby come out last year? So

515
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: he's a brother prospect than Winby? You feel comfortable saying that?

516
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: No, Hey, listen, one thing about one thing about us

517
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: in general, people, in general society, we are prisoners of

518
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: the moment, absolutely whatever. Whenever it's hot right now, that's

519
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: what it is. And you forget about some of the

520
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: great players that have come in the past. Hey, nigg

521
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: was my dog tiny? What's that? Baby?

522
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: Boy?

523
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: You could you couldn't let you couldn't let me get

524
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: no more, no more moments. Huh you be?

525
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: He said?

526
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: My auntie, Say, my auntie had me for ten days,

527
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: and I was ready for her to leave, O Joe,

528
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: so she'd be standy, so he don't want to be

529
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: sure and the chicken tenders chills. Sure, nothing, so I

530
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: was ready for it to go.

531
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: You good.

532
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: In Flaygate, Oh Joe, players are complaining about overinflated basketballs.

533
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 2: Here's a list of the players that are smoking out

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: about the absurdity of the ball over inflation in the

535
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament game.

536
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know you had.

537
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Sam Decker, Kobe Bray, Covid Hawkins, Joseph Gerard third, don't

538
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: connect last year, Armando Baycott, Hunter Dixon.

539
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: What do you think, Ojoe? If it's something or nothing?

540
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: And that man, to me, honily, it's nothing. I wouldn't

541
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: be complaining about the ball. You know, when you were

542
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: growing up, sometimes you had the word, but you had

543
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: no control over the conditions. Uh, you're playing outdoor. You

544
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: play in door. Sometimes there's no nets, sometimes there's nets.

545
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's changed that, sometimes it's a double rim. Sometimes

546
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: the ball is flat, sometimes the ball is full. Either way,

547
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: you adapt and you make the adjustments necessary. Now you

548
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: see what I mean Now that we got players that

549
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: have got to college. Now they complaining about the goddamn

550
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: ball in begetting how we grew up. Well, I'm not

551
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: sure how they grew up there. Everybody everybody had a

552
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: silver spoon based on this area that's in college right now.

553
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm just listen. I ain't even had no shoes. I

554
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: had the hoop and pee class and a pair of trucks.

555
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Everybody's hocks, I know.

556
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I'm still hooping in the chucks.

557
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: And they talk about, oh, the ball is too much

558
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: and the ball. Man, if you don't go out there

559
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: and play basketball and ad just and adapt to the

560
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: goddamn ball, what are you talking about? Maybe a boy

561
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: a chat that was the checker that saw me boy

562
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: boy back in back in nineteen ninety. Yeah, you look

563
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: like you played in the sixty the way you holder

564
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: that basketball. Oh, I have an unorthodox drip. Me, I

565
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: got an unorthodox grip. I have an unorthodox game. You do?

566
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: So do you let me ask you a question. Do

567
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: you think that you think there's something to this? What

568
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: should the ncchhoud they look into it? Should they checked

569
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: the ball?

570
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: Hey?

571
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Honestly, honestly, as a player, I'm just saying as a competitor,

572
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't care about that. That just me. Now, I

573
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: can't speak on behalf of the players. If they're saying,

574
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: maybe the ball has too much air in it, I

575
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: mean maybe it does. Shouldn't that affect your game in

576
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: any way? No, when you shoot the ball, don't hit

577
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: the rim. When you put the ball on the floor,

578
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: you know what to do with it. No air, a

579
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of air. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't affect anything.

580
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: That's just me. I ain't complaining about no damn ball.

581
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm going out there. I'm for the hoop. If you

582
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: are a true hooper, now I'm talking about a true hooper.

583
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: If you are a true hooper, you adapt regardless of circumstance.

584
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: I ain't tell you what I heard. I'm telling you

585
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: what I know. You think that you think the player

586
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: that go to rugg a part they can play about

587
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: the ball being having too much air.

588
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think sometimes these arenas on man what they

589
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: normally play, and I think you know, you hear the

590
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: the NBA player saying you got to get used because

591
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: the depth reception because you know you used to play

592
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: it and now they're playing in multi purposes arena, and

593
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: so maybe that has something to do with maybe the

594
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: ball could be over and played it.

595
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: It's a little you know. Yeah, I have a question.

596
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: Don't they have shoot around in college football and college

597
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: basketball too?

598
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: Right?

599
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's plenty time to make the necessary adjustments to

600
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: your game, to your skill set based on the balls

601
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: that you were using. Me personally, I'm just saying they

602
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: have a right to complain and just something I wouldn't

603
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: complain about. Before we have a football game, what is

604
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: the coach take to go do two hours for the game,

605
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: go out there and test to what that's your shoes

606
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: so you know what shoes you need to wear because

607
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: you might have to make the necessary adjustments based on

608
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: the field you plan on. Yep, come on, now we

609
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: tell about the ball and having too much air, man,

610
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: we ain't even had no air in our balls in

611
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: peed back in the eighties, and I may do just

612
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: like that. He tied the ball got too much edit, man, child,

613
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: please man, come on, man.

614
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: The Liberty Flames got blown out the first round of

615
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NCAA tournament by the Oregon Ducks.

616
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Liberty head coach Richie McKay.

617
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

618
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: That might have been the worst part of the night.

619
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: McKay was interviewed on the sideline by one of the

620
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: reporters on the broadcast. Oh Joe, take a look at

621
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: this photo. Yeah, bro, does he not know that? We

622
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: know that that's Frey?

623
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Hey, he he he Let young boy live his life. Man,

624
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: that's that good. Bejing you hear me?

625
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: But oh Joe, but if you notice you can't do it.

626
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: You got first of all, he got to you gotta

627
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: you gotta cut it down some because you can't have

628
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: that much. Harry didn't have that cause he got that

629
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: thing looking like Carlos Booster. Hey, check y'all, remember Carlos

630
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 2: Boozer when out there that the face clicked out, had

631
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: a nice little beer.

632
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Hey. Maybe maybe he didn't realize it, and maybe because

633
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: the light you see the light shine on his forehead.

634
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the light from the camera that's that making

635
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: it look worse than what it really is.

636
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: So got blown out, cause you can you imagine had

637
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: they not got blown out. And it's a closed game

638
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: and he's starting to sweat. Hey, he's on the Baptist

639
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: middles them Baptist minister be up there in that pool

640
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: pit and they got that pray for the Beijing. That

641
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: starts start gripping down. Yeah, hey, don't do him like that.

642
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: Tell that chat Chad, know what I'm talking about. That man,

643
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: he wrong for that on joke. You can't go out

644
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: there like like we we now you know what our

645
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: counterparts matter. Ain't say nothing, but I carry every black

646
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: person that watched that had something to say.

647
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Oh way, you know, we ain't gonna let nothing. Listen,

648
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna let none slide. It's fighting nothing like that.

649
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Listen on national television. Oh no, he got that good Beijing.

650
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: Oh and you y you seeing the church. You ain't

652
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: gonna say nothing to church. But soon as you get

653
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: up church, Brown.

654
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: You said that Trob a herod just her.

655
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what he thought that was.

656
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: Oh no, you can't cut hey, Oh Joe you see

657
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: that when you start getting them coldlas and you might

658
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: will go ahead and cut it down.

659
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: It's just a bottle of time. Just let it go.

660
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got them t talks. That's them te talk.

661
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: You know back in the day you didn't have the converb.

662
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: You had the t talk, right, and like the camaro. Yeah, yeah,

663
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: you go, yes, exactly right, that's nah man hey, and

664
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: he's just oh Joe, why he just put it? He

665
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: should win ahead and just put it all over. You

666
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: can't just it's to tone. Yeah, he got his regular

667
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: hair and then this think you're jet black.

668
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: Well listen, maybe maybe start off maybe what if it

669
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: didn't start off that way? Maybe how about it Maybe

670
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: it got like that at the beginning of the game.

671
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that stress sweating, And that's.

672
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: How that was the outcome of it. No, if it

673
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: had been if he if that game had been closer

674
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: he started sweating. That thing had been all down in

675
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: for it. He just started. Hey, you remember how Rudy, Hey, y'all,

676
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 2: remember Rudy, Rudy, Judy, you remember how he started how

677
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: he started sweating because he had that defend there.

678
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: When it started sweating, that thing was all over his face.

679
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: That's exactly what would have happened to him, because that's

680
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: that spray. That isn't that baging I got, I got

681
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: that color that you know, I ain't got that rent

682
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: here because he ain't gonna sweat, but he.

683
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Got that spray.

684
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: That spray you get and start sweating, that's gonna start

685
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: coming down your face.

686
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, now, you just said something. You said something.

687
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna let that go back. You said you

688
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: you got the Beijing sprail. Yep, okay, okay, I like it.

689
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: Don't like that. I like that.

690
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: Ain't like that.

691
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: But first of all, there are a lot of people,

692
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: got it. You ain't about to be fifty. First of all,

693
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm not Pakistani. I'm not in the in the set,

694
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: so my hair ain't gonna be jet black. Aa't over

695
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: there fifty right? And now I ain't the only one.

696
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: There are a lot of the there's a lot of

697
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: more phones on television. Y'all must be fainthy. Come on now,

698
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. This is what you need to do.

699
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Now. This might be one of the reasons why you

700
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: ain't been able to find you somebody. Somebody actually won't.

701
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Now if you're in your fifties. You know, women love

702
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: a little salt and pepper. Might might you can.

703
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: Stop the damn sure will be on my head. You

704
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: better put it on your plate, your food. Every chance

705
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: I get, I'm going to color the thing up, Joe

706
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: colored up. Hey, you don't want to.

707
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: You don't want to just you don't want to let

708
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: the think about how think about how you look though

709
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: with the all grad.

710
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: Now I have them all grade.

711
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: No, okay, okay, I would listen. I'm just throwing somebody

712
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: that just to just to give them a different look,

713
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: get the women a different perspective of you.

714
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: Hey, you chatter has seen me. I ain't trying to

715
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: fool nobody. I mean, y'all seen me a couple of times.

716
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: I can't get back home or get it colored. Hey, right,

717
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: I got that great coming in. I mean, I don't

718
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: know what it is, right, he damn edges. Hey, I'm

719
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: telling you you should try it one time.

720
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: Hey, somebody somebody used AI or something and then change

721
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: on hell colored up your greed. I just want to

722
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: see how it looks. You might like it. Man, women

723
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: love a little salt na you know that that Just

724
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: let them know that you seasoned.

725
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: I am, Hey, look, I'm figured Joe. Yep uh uh,

726
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Now you can't do that though.

727
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, he if he'd.

728
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Had it all one color, if he'd had it all that,

729
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: we just still know.

730
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: We probably wouldn't have noticed it as much. But like

731
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: a lot of times they do that spray, they have

732
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: them edge edges crispy, so when they do they use

733
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: that spray to get them edges crispy, so it's a

734
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: little darker than the rest of the head of the hair.

735
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: But that's too much.

736
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: You got that thing looking like shoe polish. I don't

737
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: know if you have a shine shoes on, Joe, but

738
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: by yah for you to have me and my brother

739
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: shine his shoes and we had to shine our own shoes.

740
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if y'all noticed that shoe polish.

741
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: But hey, oh man, that's funny. That's funny. That is funded.

742
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, the three peet is complete, arguambly the greatest

743
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: hurdler in history. Grant Holloway in the first athlete World

744
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: Indoor Championship history to win three consecutive sixty meter hurdle titles.

745
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Me personally because Roger Kingdom from Georgia with the Vayana

746
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: High School. He was a tremendous athlete. He won the Olympics.

747
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: I think he won eighty four and eighty eight. Alan

748
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 2: Johnson won the champ won the Olympics. I think if

749
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: Gret Holloway can win another Olympics, I think he'll go

750
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: down to the greatest hurdler because he has three World

751
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: championship outdoors, he has three indoor. He has an Olympic

752
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: gold medalist. If he can snag one more, yeah, then

753
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: but I'm not so sure because he's in this is

754
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: a world championship season here.

755
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: I think now he's dead set on that world record.

756
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: He's run twelve eighty one, yeah, which is point zero

757
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: z one off of aries merit Georgia boy who has

758
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: the world record at twelve eighty. So I think if

759
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: he can get that world record and get another gold,

760
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be I think it's the unquestioned

761
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: he's the greatest hurdler ever. We like I said, we

762
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: have to, you know, to have that world record. Colin

763
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: jack Allen Johnson addict. Colin Jackson added the Chinese guy

764
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Alu Shawan, he had it Dyren Roeblis from Cuba.

765
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: He had it and he Merrit took it from him.

766
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting if Grant Holloway because his

767
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 2: explosive start, he gets shout, you're not beating him.

768
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: At the gate. No, you're not eating him at the gate,

769
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: and he's flaws.

770
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's his time, his timing. I mean, listen,

771
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: I've been watching Grant the Flamingo that's his nickname, Hollowey

772
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: for for for a very long time. One of the

773
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: greatest hurlers of all time. And I'm sure he's probably

774
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: going to achieve being the greatest hurler of all time

775
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: and being able to get that twelve beat that twelve

776
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: eighty uh at some point. So I'm happy for him, Grant.

777
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see this, that salute you. You know,

778
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: all your hard work. You know, we we go at

779
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: it back and forth on Twitter sometimes and in person,

780
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: and I'm proud to you, man, I'm proud of you. Yeah.

781
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: Coach Prime and A Sante Samuels got into some beat

782
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: this weekend.

783
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: O Joe Hey, I love this boy.

784
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: First responded to the NFL Networks video Coach Fran hating

785
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: on the tee steps. I can't stop laughing how foolish

786
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: he sounds. You can't control everything, sir. M hm.

787
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

788
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: Hey listen there there, I Can I go? Can I go?

789
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: Because I like it? You know how. I'm a fan

790
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: and an enthusiast when it comes to beautiful DV play

791
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: the T step and being able to gather step and

792
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: get out your break. There are different skill sets for

793
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: different players. Yes, what makes them comfortable depending on what

794
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: you like to do. Dion Sanders his ability to get

795
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: in and out of breaks, it's phenomenal, Yes, it's phenomenal.

796
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: His anticipating anticipatory skills are phenomenal. Understanding the tendencies and

797
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: what routes are coming based on down in distance alignment,

798
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, is phenomenal. Another great one. And

799
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Asante Samuels, whether it be Man, whether it be zone

800
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: bump and run man, the man, his anticipatory skills again

801
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: based on down in distance. It's good. He's the greatest

802
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: tea step of all time, and he has the numbers

803
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: and the stats to prove it. They have two of

804
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: the you have two of the all time grades that

805
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: are going back and forth based on a specific skill

806
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: set and technique one work. One might not like it,

807
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: but the other likes it. So the way dr used

808
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: to get out of breaks, it worked for him and

809
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: it works for other players. Everybody can't do the goddamn

810
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: T step like it's Santhe Samuels, all right, everybody can't

811
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: do it, other players or other players that played even

812
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: the back. You have to gather, you have to. It's

813
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: like there's some receivers that can get out of breaking

814
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: three steps, then there's something that gotta get out in five.

815
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: That's a difference. But Sani sam is one of the

816
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: few that can T step, And I think one of

817
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: the things that prime that might be bad about the

818
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: T step. If your T step and it's a double

819
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: move where you're asked out, you're asked out because you're

820
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: not even you're not even gathering, you just taking that

821
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: one step and getting up out of it and you

822
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: just driving. So if he's fake and make a double move,

823
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna take you ever to get it

824
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: get back out of there. I think that's a hard argument.

825
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Man from two from from two of the best they

826
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: ever played the game. But I like to hear your

827
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: your your expertise, on that.

828
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: I think the thing is time is looking at its

829
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: no wasting motion. What do we talk when we run robes?

830
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: What do we saying? No wasted motion? Yes, we get

831
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: into that break. We want our arms here, or we

832
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: want our arms here. Yes, sir, you want your body,

833
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: you want your over your told. You know what I'm saying.

834
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: You want that, you want that weight distributed, all your

835
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: big old quads.

836
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: So you get and come up out of there.

837
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: No sense none of that.

838
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: So another words, time is saying by ten stepping, that's

839
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: wasted motion and what we're taught. But coach Toby says, son,

840
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: he who hesitated me, So time is coming.

841
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: In there coming, I'm coming right now.

842
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes, he said, when you open that guy's already out

843
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: to think about you got to do this. Now, you

844
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: gotta square back up and go, okay, go. That worked

845
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: for us. I think the thing is that this is

846
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna try to teach.

847
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: Now.

848
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: If I see I'm trying to teach this and the

849
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: guy can't get it and he's better tea stepping, I'm

850
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: gonna let him tease step.

851
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: But it's a funny thing. This is funny thing about

852
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: the Southeast Saner Now this is this is when it

853
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: comes down to technique. This is what soun was so

854
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: goddamn good at a son to play inside leverage right,

855
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: uh huh, He'll play off on purpose and no matter

856
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: how you weave him the thing why he can teach

857
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: um so well and still be in position to make

858
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: the play because that mother, Oh almost cursed. I'm sorry

859
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: you got you. I'm so excited. Hey, a son, you

860
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: could come at him and if you, if you, if

861
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: you weave inside, and he gonna weave. But he's gonna

862
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: stay square the whole time. He not opening up. He

863
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: not opening up. He's gonna stay square, stay right in

864
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: for you the whole time. If you, if you weave outside,

865
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: he gonna weave right with you. And so when it's

866
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: time for to get out of his break, if you

867
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: make any kind of move in front of him without

868
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: stepping on his toes, the ball is going the other way. Yeah,

869
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it.

870
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: I'm double moving him. I'm not because he gonna see it. Yeah,

871
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,959
Speaker 2: he's gonna squat. He squassaled a lot. He had great

872
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: like you said, he had great anticipation, but you got

873
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: a double movie and a lot of things because he

874
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: came up and the Coach Belichick system is that what

875
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: he did is like, no matter what you do, if

876
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: I got inside leverage, I got inside leverage.

877
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: If I got outside leverage, I got outside leverage.

878
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: So what you do don't impact me because I gotta

879
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: be outside leverage. So you're doing all that stuff. I

880
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: got outside leverage, I got outside leverage. You run the bank.

881
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: I can't stop it. If I got inside leverage, I

882
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: don't care if you give me a nod outside I'm

883
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: standing inside. Ain't gonna do me. Yeah, it's just it's

884
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: just a matter of your technique. Is that what we

885
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: try to do. We try to keep our technique is

886
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: sound as we possibly can to do to eliminate wasted

887
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: motion motion.

888
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: Uh and so.

889
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: Prime come man and crime says he foolish. Lol, God

890
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: bless you, my brother. Tell them what this is really about, sir,

891
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: you forever taking a shot at the sky. Mickey Andrews

892
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: is responsible for teaching us what I teach, and it

893
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: sure seemed like it worked for us.

894
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: Peace be still, Yeah, old oh Joe, let me have

895
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: this set up.

896
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: A bunch of tweets from a sante ain't no shot

897
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: to on the head brothers competitive as they come.

898
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: I talked ish.

899
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 2: If it offended you, Coach gene Chiwick taught us how

900
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: to teach step. I'm just trying to compare film. You

901
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: can't run from the debate. I will still be here

902
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: talking ish, loel God bless you. Here here's a yearly reminder.

903
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: Not let us excuse pick sixes one hundred and sixty eight,

904
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: gay fifty three, Don played one hundred and eighty eight games,

905
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: fifty three interceptions, three playoff interception, two Super Bowls A

906
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: Sante fifty one interception, seven playoff career inceptions, two super

907
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Bowls fifty plus interception, ninety four pass. Please start saying

908
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: they don't throw his way, Assante. I love you, bro,

909
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: I love you, I thank you. Phenomenal, But you're not

910
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: in times real. That's not even close. You're not nobody.

911
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: Nobody would ever say a Sante, Samuel and Deon Sanders

912
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: in the same breath, You were fabulous. That's the greatest

913
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: corner to ever put on. Put on paths and a helmet,

914
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: the cover the lockdown. Where you think this term came from?

915
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: Where you think that term could, Oh Joe, do you

916
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: realize where that term came from Yeah, the cover corner,

917
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: the shut down corner, the cover on one side of

918
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: the field. When he took to listen with see. Sometimes

919
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: people like when I say time locked it down. There

920
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: was no safety in the hole. So if you ran

921
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: the post, throw back and look with he picked it

922
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: on a rocket ismail.

923
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: He got it.

924
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: Manned the man.

925
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: They threw a post with nobody in the hole. Time

926
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: read jumped over the top of him and picked it.

927
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: It came back this way with it. Lassan tell you

928
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: a fabulous You're not time man. You can put all

929
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: these stats up. Bro, you're not time.

930
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: I get it. Your technique. You say the T step

931
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 3: worked for you?

932
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: Good? Oh you and I try to explain what we

933
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: try to do if we try to eliminate wasting motion. Okay,

934
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 2: you felt that the T step would serve you better

935
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: than to start the back to back belt because everybody

936
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: is up underneath them and come for you felt the

937
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: T step gave you that a bigger burst.

938
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: No problem. Clearly it worked.

939
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: You were a pro bowler, you won super Bowls, you

940
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: got fifty plus interceptions.

941
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you're just not Time, and it's okay. Yeah,

942
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: I think I like, I love priming what Prime was

943
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: able to do and the class and the bar that

944
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: he set. But I don't want it to to take

945
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: away from how special Zon was, where it was he was. Yeah,

946
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's level. I know the levels,

947
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: but I need people to also understand as great as

948
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Prime was, I'm not saying Zon is on that level,

949
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: but we need to give Zon as flowers so people

950
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: understand how difficult it was to put up the numbers

951
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, and doing the tea step. That's how

952
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: good he and how good he was technically that that's

953
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: that's that's all I'm saying.

954
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Joe, you tell me the cornerback that's played that shifted

955
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: the battlest of power. He gold to San Francisco, they

956
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: beat Dallas. He gold to Dallas, and Dallas beat San Francisco.

957
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: He shifted the battles of power. Yeah, yeah, I understand

958
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: what you mean. That's why I said the greatness that

959
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 2: is Prime. Yeah, listen, he stands alone. We we we

960
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: we know that, you know. But one thing that we

961
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: always do is we always go to the numbers, to

962
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: the stats.

963
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: So look at steps I'm looking at when it played,

964
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: I watched Tate. Oh okay, okay, hey, but hey, listen,

965
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: if if we talk about watching tape, now you look

966
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: at twenty two. Hey, well he does he does some

967
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: special stuff like that.

968
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: Now, oh he now his his cluid, his ability to diagnose,

969
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, Hey, to know what's

970
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: coming before listen, Zhan's ability to know what's coming before

971
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: court before it comes, and gambling at the right time

972
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: and breaking on balls. But see, sometimes numbers, sometimes numbers

973
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: fool you. Yes, sir, Darrell Reavers? How many picks he got?

974
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: How many people you think taking Asante over Revers? You

975
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: see how numbers are misleading? O Joe, do you think

976
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: Reeves got? I don't know how many obsessions has does

977
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: Reeves have thirty interceptions? I mean having Rebas got twenty

978
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: nine picks? Now, I want you to tell me on joke,

979
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: you played against both of them. I see, I'll I'll

980
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: like to go to the man that played the man,

981
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: not the man that know the man that talked to

982
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: the man a bottle man.

983
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: You play against both of them.

984
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what you think, listen, don't don't do don't

985
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: do me like that as they don't do like as

986
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: a defensive back myself. Listen, I'm trying to give praise.

987
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: It's Sunday. I'm trying to get praise to worship where

988
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: it's due. Now, I see it's a hard battle for

989
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: It's a hard battle of fazant to win. Because we

990
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: talk about Prime and the comparison to the two in

991
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: ninety nine, pers in the world won't allow the comparison

992
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: to happen. But what I'm gonna do is is I'm

993
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna get on my I'm gonna get on my soapbox.

994
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: Bazan as a receiver, Listen as a receiver. Yes, I

995
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: understand how special and technically sound Young Bull was. Now

996
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to compare the Prime. Prime is on

997
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: a different level. He's in a different stratosphere. But I

998
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: don't want that to take away, and I don't want

999
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: to play the game. I don't want to take away

1000
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: how great Zong was and what he was able to

1001
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: do that goddamn t step and his ability to always

1002
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: stay square is why he was so good at it,

1003
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to other dvs that opened up right away

1004
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't be able to t step anyway. That

1005
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: there are very few dvs right listen to miss real

1006
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: quick chat listen to me. Prime is a great one.

1007
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Reevers was a great one. Pass certain that some of

1008
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: the young bulls in today's game and some of the

1009
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: old some of the some of the DB's in the

1010
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: old era, ninety five percent of dvs. Ninety percent of

1011
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: them play the position not to get beat. Yeah, and

1012
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: there's five percent that play to make a play. Another thing,

1013
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Prime is in that, Zon is in that, and it's

1014
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's a few others. I'm not gonna lost

1015
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: no names, but that's a difference.

1016
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: A lot of times people have great techniques. You watch

1017
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: guys and warm it up.

1018
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bay, getting the game to go to get somebody

1019
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: slapping in the mug. Yeah, it changes.

1020
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1021
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: Hey the head roll the twelve with that feed out

1022
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: clean they do that over hey, over the top back boy, do.

1023
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: You see that dagger?

1024
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as somebody in front of them, Dude,

1025
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: what happened?

1026
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: What happened? Yeah, it's funny. It's funny anytime anytime you

1027
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: put a body in front of somebody, most of the

1028
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: time your technique goes, it goes away. It goes away.

1029
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: The ability to operate in the same fashion you do

1030
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: on air with the body in front of you takes

1031
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: such extreme confidence and not just your belief and your

1032
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: skill set, but you take nick as well.

1033
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 2: Look like I said, that's not I mean, look just

1034
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: because you're not It's like a receiver. It's like if

1035
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: somebody said, well he ain't Jared right, well, who is that?

1036
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: That ain't no shot?

1037
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: It's like, uh uh kay.

1038
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: When I had Ken Griffy on my podcast and he

1039
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: was he goes see your son play. And if the

1040
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: guy was like, hey, he ain't King griff he ain't

1041
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: he ain't you, Griffy looked at him and said, well,

1042
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: who name five players that are Okay, Sante Samuel isn't prime. Okay,

1043
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: name five DB's that are. That's not a slight right

1044
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: as Sante Samuel was a damn good or great when

1045
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 2: if he was a great corner, because you're not prime,

1046
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: that doesn't deduce you, right. That's like saying this what

1047
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: he he wasn't Joe Montail, He ain't Tom Brady. Okay,

1048
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: name five Tom Brady at quarterback? But what the hell

1049
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: are you saying? People get caught up with he ain't this?

1050
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay?

1051
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: Name five that were Name five bad bonds?

1052
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: Name five Jared Rice that played the receiver position name five,

1053
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: LT's name five, Aaron Donald's. It's not it's not a

1054
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: god gets what I'm said. So what you say, I'm

1055
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: saying you were great. But their levels to this they are.

1056
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: It just is you could be a great actors are

1057
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: They're five better than Denzel.

1058
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: M hm. So I beat im.

1059
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: Just you know, people get caught up. I don't get Hey,

1060
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: he ain't no gronk. Okay, name but one gronk. How

1061
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: many how many Titans can say they were gronk? I mean,

1062
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: how many tight they can say they was with Travis Kelcey.

1063
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: People just get caught them getting that fit.

1064
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm good.

1065
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: All I can say is this from ninety to two

1066
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: thousand and three, that's what I lay.

1067
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at.

1068
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: My numbers, and look at the guys that played in

1069
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: that era, look at their numbers, And you tell me,

1070
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: I can't do what came what came after me. I

1071
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: can't do what came before me. But look at my

1072
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: era when I played, Look at the tight end and

1073
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: from that era, and you see what my numbers look

1074
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: like comparable to theirs.

1075
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: Hold on, and I got something even better than that.

1076
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: I got something better than that, And I'm glad you

1077
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: said that. I want you to look at the air

1078
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: before me. You hear me, stay with a chat y,

1079
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: hear me chat listen to me real close, stay with me. Now,

1080
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: stay with me. Look at the air before me. All

1081
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: the receivers that played. Look at the era during my time. Okay,

1082
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: now look at the era right now. And I ain't

1083
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: talk about no numbers. But there was only one old children,

1084
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: give me, there's only one of them, ware o joe.

1085
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: People try to say, now, well who the time and

1086
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: play against? I tell you what you take any era?

1087
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: You tell me three receivements better than Random Moss, Carol

1088
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: Owens and Jared Rice.

1089
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: I'll give you any era.

1090
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: You tell me three receivers that you would take over

1091
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 2: those three, because that's what Dion went against.

1092
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: So I want you tell me. So if you want

1093
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: this era, you won't chase jedda Reek.

1094
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: If you want to go back a little father, you

1095
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: want Fitzgerald, you want Marvin Harrison, you want you give,

1096
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you any any er. I'll take Tillo, I'll

1097
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: take Randy Moss, and i'll take Jared Rice. And you

1098
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: tell me three receivers that's better than those three take

1099
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: off chat.

1100
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, why why why the chat? Try to do

1101
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: the impossible. I'm gonna grab me a bottle.

1102
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: Of water, now, y'all, look, this is not a look

1103
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: and tydy, this is very this is this is rare

1104
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: for time for him to get into to a tent

1105
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: for tattle on Twitter. Occasionally he will occasionally if he

1106
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: feels like, like he said, he's called upon, he'll chime

1107
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: me in.

1108
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: But normally normally he really doesn't.

1109
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: Uh, it's like I said, I just think this think

1110
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 2: it's a different of opinions.

1111
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: Did the T step it worked for him? Time didn't.

1112
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: He believed wasted motion, wasted caused you to cause you

1113
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 2: to give up plays that you probably wouldn't give up. Okay,

1114
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: two things can be true. The teeth can work for

1115
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: where Time didn't do the T step.

1116
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, matter of fact, we can. We can squash

1117
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: the conversation and we could change. We can change. We

1118
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: could we could change the topic. Whether you gat the step,

1119
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: whether a T step, where do you bump? Where you

1120
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: play off? Whether he plays on? Whether you play MANI

1121
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: saying to d you know who they couldn't cover?

1122
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: Who me? Man? Time?

1123
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: Already you listen. Look, we could be in it. We

1124
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: could be in the phone booth. We could be in

1125
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: the phone move, we could be in the prime brown

1126
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: paper bag. Matter of fact, that the paper bag could

1127
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: be wet. The paperback can do it. Prime couldn't see me. Huh,

1128
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: he couldn't see me with Eric Dickerson. God, who's on?

1129
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: And don't play on me? Hey, listen. I love voting

1130
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: the boys, man, and I love I love it. I

1131
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: love the healthy I love the healthy banter and competition

1132
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: back and forth. The competitive nature never goes anywhere, even

1133
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: when it doesn't playing. I like it. Yeah, it's a

1134
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: good it's a good, healthy discussion. But y'all can't stop me,

1135
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: not then and not now.

1136
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: But what I could never understood was how could time

1137
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: play with that big wide bass A right?

1138
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: And if you be, he was gonna recome up.

1139
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't worried about your ready to pass it.

1140
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: He wasn't ready.

1141
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: But I mean maybe one guy probably if he missed

1142
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: the jam on Tyreek, But other than that, he gonna be.

1143
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: He gonna be.

1144
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Ay, Now, you got to think about it. If he

1145
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: missed the jam on Tyreek, that means the ball got

1146
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: to be perfect.

1147
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: He gotta be because he gonna come down. Ball gotta

1148
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: be perfect. Be coming next time.

1149
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 4: Hey.

1150
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: Ye, As a matter of fact, we're gonna lask.

1151
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that top you were here.

1152
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: I think they got kept.

1153
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: They got off practice.

1154
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: Uncomforting you practicing.

1155
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1156
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: We'll shout to known out of iron to know we're

1157
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: gonna have this conversation.

1158
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: Got to hit him up that who that Oh oh

1159
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: oh oh, that was a good one. That was a

1160
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: great I was great combo, Oh Joe.

1161
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: The Giants reportedly haven't given up on Aaron Rodgers despite

1162
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: signing Jameis Winston. Following Rogers visit to the Steelers on Friday,

1163
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: the g Men reportedly haven't stopped their pursuit of the

1164
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: forty one year old. Jeremy Filler reports the Giants have

1165
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: not given up on Aaron Rodgers even though they signed

1166
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston. But reading the tea leaves here, it looks

1167
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: like the Steelers are in the pole position to potentially

1168
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: get it done. The Giants signed Weston to a two year,

1169
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: eight million dollars deal. Excuse me, just hours after Rogers

1170
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: meeting with the Steelers. Oh Joe, do you see the

1171
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: Steelers have a proper landing spot or is it the Giants.

1172
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. That's a good one. Me.

1173
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: I can't really put myself in Aaron rodgers shoes, But

1174
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: if you look at the landscape of the offense on

1175
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: where I would prefer to be, Malik Nighbors is nice. Yeah,

1176
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: he's nice. That is one. That's one good one to

1177
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: throw too. But you got two good ones over there

1178
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: with the Steelers.

1179
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: Correct me.

1180
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: Personally, I would be choosing over there with Arthur Smith,

1181
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: George Pickens and DK Metcalf. Let me get some of that.

1182
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Let me get some of that. That's if I'm Aaron

1183
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: Rodgers and understanding what you gonna do with two dynamic

1184
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: receivers like that. Just get the ball out your hands,

1185
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: that's all. Just get the ball out your hands. I'm

1186
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: not sure who they I'm not sure who they have

1187
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: it running back to take some of the PRESSU off Aaron.

1188
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: So we ain't back there throwing the ball a hundred

1189
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: times a game. But if I was a quarterback, I'm

1190
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: trying to go. I'm trying to go over there with

1191
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: that with the crash, I call him a crash our brothers.

1192
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 3: Uh, the Giants.

1193
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: Doesn't make a whole lot of sense because why would

1194
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: you sign Aaron Rodgers and Jameis Winston And potentially that

1195
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: means if you do that on Yo, that means you're

1196
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: not going to get a quarterback.

1197
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, maybe they're just talking. Maybe that's all

1198
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: smoking mirrors. Maybe maybe maybe it's all smoking mirrors, because

1199
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: what the Giants are going to do, They're gonna need

1200
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback for the future.

1201
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 3: Yes, well they.

1202
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: Signed Jameis Winnings for a one year. They mean they

1203
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: signed there also to a one year. You gotta you

1204
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: gotta make up your mind. You got to make up

1205
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: your mind.

1206
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 3: So where did that?

1207
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: So?

1208
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: So if if if Rogers goes to Pittsburgh or so,

1209
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: where where does that lead?

1210
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson Cleveland.

1211
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: That's a possibility. That that that is that's that is

1212
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: a possibility.

1213
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: That's the only place I see because Geno Smith is

1214
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: that the Raiders. Now Sam Donald is it in Seattle.

1215
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out where else could he go?

1216
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: Who else was the quarterback? They just put a Jones

1217
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: in Andy to challenge to challenge Richardson. So I'm looking

1218
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: at the landscape on you, I'm trying to figure out

1219
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: where can.

1220
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: He go that that that's it, that's it. I really

1221
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: don't like what they did. Well, I kind of like it,

1222
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: and I don't like it from a from a competitive standpoint,

1223
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't like what they're doing the Richardson, But I

1224
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: also like it because now that you have somebody to

1225
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: push you and buying for your job, maybe that gets

1226
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: you to play at a higher level because now you

1227
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: have something to worry about. But also sometimes it's pros

1228
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: and it's con to that tool, because now what happening

1229
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: if you press, But if what happens you try too hard.

1230
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: But if you try not to make mistakes instead of

1231
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: just playing freely, I think it'll do more harm than

1232
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: good when you I think, I don't think they like.

1233
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they like Anthony Richardson for the future.

1234
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, they knew he the Reclamation project. He was

1235
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: not a high completion percentage guy in college. He wasn't

1236
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: a hot he came in here. His completion percentage was

1237
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: your lower than t Bow's. And we know t Bow

1238
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: did not have a great completion percentage coming about in

1239
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm just I'm just just the facts, right,

1240
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: just the facts and the mere fact that they went

1241
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: out and got signed up Jones.

1242
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: What's his name?

1243
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: What's his first name? Daniel Jones? What does that tell you?

1244
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: And they gave him fourteen million? How they gonna pay

1245
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: the backup more than they pay the starter?

1246
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 3: Right?

1247
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: What are they telling you? O, Choe?

1248
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: They your bull? Jye?

1249
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: Uh huh?

1250
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 3: Fourteen million?

1251
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: You see what they gave you see what they gave

1252
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: James Winston backup money? You see when they give another

1253
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: backup money and chat, I'm talking about Cousins. Cousins was

1254
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: brought into bill starter. He happened to be the backup

1255
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: because he lost his job.

1256
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: Can you can you answer me something?

1257
01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1258
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Why they give James with Jameis Winston? What one fader

1259
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: two eight.

1260
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 3: Two faide?

1261
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: Okay? So why they gave why they gave me four team?

1262
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: Why you think they surmised he's gonna be the starter?

1263
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: No? Or does it have anything to do with age?

1264
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: No?

1265
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, Oh Joe, the guys like, hold

1266
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: on if I'm coming in, they because they won't. They

1267
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: want you to know they won't. Anthony Richardson to note,

1268
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: he got tell me to be your backup? Did you

1269
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 2: see we paid him. We paid him lor than you.

1270
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: Now all this come come late, leave army, the stuff

1271
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: that you've been doing, it ain't gonna go no more.

1272
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: I got a question, hold on, hold on, I got

1273
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: a question for you. Who's the backup in any right now?

1274
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones?

1275
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: Now, what did Daniel Jones show us the last two

1276
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: places he was at?

1277
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: He shows nothing Minnesota because he ain't get in but Giants.

1278
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: Hey, my point exactly. So with the Giants he had

1279
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: he had flashes the bridge. I'm not even gonna say

1280
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: him lie, I'm not gonna lie to you. But obviously

1281
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: the Giants were in a position where it was either

1282
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Barkley had a position that they don't value, or with

1283
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. So they decided to pay, and they decided

1284
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: to pay Daniel Jones. But the small sambsize in what

1285
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: we saw from him, I mean, he ain't the goddamn answer.

1286
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: He ain't. Not no disrespect to him. He not the answer.

1287
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: But I think that it's a good thing. Again, like

1288
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: I said, it's pros and cons to it. You bring

1289
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: in some competition, most players, if you're a competitive oh man,

1290
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: this suck ain't gonna beat me out. My job. No way,

1291
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: he ain't finna beat me at my job. I welcome you.

1292
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: I welcome this challenge you talk about you don't believe

1293
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: in me. I got you.

1294
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: Hold on, I man.

1295
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: I wish they would have thought about draft of bringing

1296
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: somebody in, O Joe, you and your third You about

1297
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: to be in your third year and they bring it

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,479
Speaker 2: a quarterback in, Oh Joe man, please? Yeah, that better

1299
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: be your team. You're twelve year fourteen.

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01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: Now that's different. You know, you know the third years

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: you're making a break a year, right, Yes, the third

1302
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: year at any skill position is the year you have

1303
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: arrived where it's gonna let us know if you've arrived

1304
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: or not, and you got it or you don't by

1305
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: that by that point. So I'm assuming right now the

1306
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: end of the Baplice coach feel you know what, we

1307
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: don't feel Anthony Richardson has it just yet. So we're

1308
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna bring someone else that made him take over. But

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: what we saw from the person they bring in the

1310
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: takeover at one year from fourteen million ain't the MS

1311
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: answer either.

1312
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: But here's the problem that you're running against Anthony Richardson.

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01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: They're like, I gotta make a decision. You see what

1314
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 2: quarterbacks making after the third year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I see what you're saying.

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01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: I need to know. I can't. I can't see I

1317
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: can't invest three hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm still you can't still be a project right

1319
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 2: with three hundred million dollars guarantee?

1320
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 3: With that kind of money, you can't. So they gotta

1321
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: make a decision.

1322
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: And if he's not, I got to go back into

1323
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: the draft because I'm not gonna pay him three hundred million.

1324
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Speaker 3: I'm not.

1325
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: You see what you see? What you you just saw?

1326
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: What Joe what a Josh Allen got?

1327
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Well wait, wait, wait, wait wait, come on, we can't

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01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: do that. Now, we can't do that. Now. I understand

1329
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: what the quarterback market is, but Anthony Richardson, when it's

1330
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: his time to get paid, he's not gonna be one

1331
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that reset the market like a Josh

1332
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: Allen or Joe Burrow.

1333
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: Let's see what C. J. Stroude get.

1334
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh, now see that shroud is different.

1335
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: That's my point. Now, if you see him, my point.

1336
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: Okay, if he's the guy, I've got to pay this number.

1337
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's all I will saying.

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01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, being the starter and having to pay for

1339
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: actual plays two totally different things.

1340
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: But still, even even if that, you're gonna have to

1341
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: pay him an excess. Is he gonna be worked? Okay?

1342
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: Sam Donald got three years one hundred and five. Are

1343
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: you you're gonna paying thirty five million a year old

1344
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: Joe and still be uncertain the quarterback that Mark Joe.

1345
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: You can't pay that guy five six million dollars to

1346
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: be you starter. It's in the thirties. Yeah, yeah, Hey, ooh, hey,

1347
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: be in a tough spot. I'm hoping this is his year.

1348
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm hoping this is his year.

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01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: You got to get it, and I know you're gonna

1350
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: see this. Take it a stride, baby, Take it as

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01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: a challenge. Got you what they're looking for.