WEBVTT - 101423 Dispelling Myths from the Comments Section (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>You're just tuning in the civic cipher. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Rams's jaw. I am q ward. You are

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<v Speaker 2>either just tuning in or still listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, and we want you to keep on listening

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<v Speaker 1>because we are dealing with some trolls, some online comments,

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<v Speaker 1>some people who don't see things the way that we

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<v Speaker 1>might see them, and they are parroting very old, archaic,

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<v Speaker 1>far right, deeply conservative ideals. We call them zombies because

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<v Speaker 1>they just won't die. And our hope is that you,

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<v Speaker 1>our listener, will benefit from this conversation we're having today

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<v Speaker 1>and learn a couple of things that you might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to use in your conversations in your attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>become a better ally. So stick around for all that

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<v Speaker 1>and so much more. But while we're talking about becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a better ally, why don't we take a moment and

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<v Speaker 1>discuss how you can do that about it? So, right now, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's discuss becoming a better ally. B A b A BABA.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I pulled these from the Wilson Organizations. Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>ways to support black people, just some reminders, just some

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<v Speaker 1>light stuff in case you've forgotten, in case there's some

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<v Speaker 1>things that have been on the back burner. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your Black Lives Matter signs out. We still need

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<v Speaker 1>that support. We have a long road ahead of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and the more people see that black people are being supported,

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<v Speaker 1>the more inclined they are to continue to offer their support.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes a long way. Another Number two, joint diversity

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<v Speaker 1>and inclusion groups at work. These are under attack by

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<v Speaker 1>the far right. They don't want any DEI. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want any critical race theory, they don't want our history taught,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want affirmative action, they don't on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So again, join DEI groups at work and

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<v Speaker 1>be vocal there. Continue supporting black owned businesses. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the problems that plague black life in America

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<v Speaker 1>can be traced to poverty, and so supporting black businesses

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<v Speaker 1>certainly helps alleviate that. Stop supporting racist influencers and companies

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<v Speaker 1>unfollow them. Just don't support. Have difficult conversations with family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends. That's sort of what we're trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>you out with today. Hold companies accountable. That means send emails.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Karen, get on that Karen energy, but

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<v Speaker 1>do it for the right reasons. Check in with your

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<v Speaker 1>child school about the district's anti racism efforts and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure they keep their books in the library. Check on

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<v Speaker 1>petitions you signed months ago, see if any follow up

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<v Speaker 1>action is needed. Continue your anti racism learning. You're doing

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<v Speaker 1>that today, we appreciate it. Reflect on your own problematic actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue to donate to meaningful organizations at the websitesivixipher dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, check in with your black friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get back to these these commons selves.

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<v Speaker 1>One of our posts we talked about police training, We

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<v Speaker 1>talk about police trank a lot of our posts. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this, and this is very important because it

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<v Speaker 1>really does need to be fleshed out. If there is

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<v Speaker 1>a source of if there was a fix all for

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<v Speaker 1>there's never going to be a fixed all, But if

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<v Speaker 1>there was such a thing for black people in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be economic justice, restorative economic justice. Right, black

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<v Speaker 1>people have been robbed of money, not just our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And our dignity and our rights and all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>of actual dollars and cents. And we've been relegated as

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<v Speaker 1>a group of people to ghettos and you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a status as second class citizens in this country. The

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<v Speaker 1>best jobs historically have gone to one group of people

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<v Speaker 1>and have not gone to another group of people. Housing discrimination, redlining,

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<v Speaker 1>all these sorts of things, ways that people build wealth

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<v Speaker 1>and pass wealth onto future generations that informs how people

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<v Speaker 1>get educated. You know, your school district is paid by

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes. So if you live in a poor neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes there's a black neighborhoods. And I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just say that that only black people are poor, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware that there is a part of the country

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<v Speaker 1>where everybody's white and they're all poor and the appellations, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But if we're you know, talking about the numbers and

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<v Speaker 1>the data, it certainly suggested that black people are at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom end of that spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>On a percentage basis the disproportionate to black people. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>of course there are more poor white people because they

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<v Speaker 2>are more poor because there are more white people. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, on the percentage the per capita it's

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<v Speaker 2>disproportionately black and brown people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but here's here's a critical difference here is that

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about poor apple people, they have not

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<v Speaker 1>been subjected to the same disenfranchisement that black people have. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so this narrative that black people should pull pull

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves up our bootstraps. This is sort of another common

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<v Speaker 1>thing that shows up in the comments. It is it's

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<v Speaker 1>first off, I might have shared this on the show before,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's based on like, think about it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>It is impossible to pull yourselves up, pull yourself up

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<v Speaker 1>by your bootstraps. It is physically impossible to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine boots, now, imagine straps, and then imagine pulling yourself up.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work, right. I believe it was first introduced

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<v Speaker 1>into media via like a newspaper something in the early

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundreds of late eighteen hundreds, and it was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to illustrate that it was impossible for I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was originally intended to like pick on like Italians or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Irish or something like that. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>physically impossible to do that. But the idea was to

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<v Speaker 1>show the government, like, yo, this is not possible. You

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<v Speaker 1>can we cannot fix the problem that we're not creating.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're creating the problem, and we need you

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it. Right, So for that to be parroted

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<v Speaker 1>to black people fix your own problems, there's a when

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about personal responsibility. There are things that black

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<v Speaker 1>people that we do own, that we can own provided

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<v Speaker 1>that other things. You know, there's a critical process here.

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<v Speaker 1>Other things need to be taken care of first. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we've shown in our history our commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to this country, to living up to the American dream,

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<v Speaker 1>the promise that this country has for all of her

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<v Speaker 1>citizens as a people. If we're painting with broad strokes,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that we've done that. We haven't left, we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't rioted to any significant degree. It's certainly not to

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<v Speaker 1>the degree that we could. I mean, sure we've been frustrated,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been conflicts, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think the thing that you would fear is us rioting

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<v Speaker 2>against a group of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And that's what We've never done that, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what thank you for saying that. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they pointed out the destruction of property right

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<v Speaker 2>during the summer of twenty twenty, and people showed up

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<v Speaker 2>with assault rifles to keep us from destroying property that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't belong to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about human lives, which we correct should

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<v Speaker 1>in theory value more.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, everything that is feared that we will one day

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<v Speaker 2>rise up and do has not happened. That there's an

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<v Speaker 2>entire history that shows that that's not what we're on.

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<v Speaker 2>We are simply trying to exist and we're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>prosper and just by being black. Every so often somebody

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<v Speaker 2>either comes along and tears down what we've built for

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves or they put in the way hurdles and barriers

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<v Speaker 2>to keep us from ever getting where we're trying to go,

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<v Speaker 2>if any cause we're black, and that being the only

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<v Speaker 2>reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to find out the real reason why

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<v Speaker 1>there's no healthcare in this country, please look that up

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<v Speaker 1>and then you will see kind of how black people

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<v Speaker 1>have been regarded in this country historically.

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<v Speaker 2>Right you say that healthcare expound, Please, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want that universal health care.

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<v Speaker 1>Universal health care. Why this country does not have universal

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<v Speaker 1>health care? I want you to look that up. Why

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<v Speaker 1>does the United States not have universal health care? And

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<v Speaker 1>dig deep and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be the only of what they call developed countries

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't have universal health care.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that when you find the answer that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pointing you toward, you'll begin to see exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>this country historically, speaking as thought of black people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, we're all born, you know, in the past

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years, sure, you know, and things have certainly

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<v Speaker 1>progressed since then. You know, I was born in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>so things have even progressed since the eighties. I will

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<v Speaker 1>see that entirely. I was able to vote for Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama he was elected president. I saw everyone come out

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<v Speaker 1>and join us when we marched for Black Life. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that, you know, there was love and that we

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<v Speaker 1>do have potential in this country. But there is a

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<v Speaker 1>not insignificant amount of people who still feel that the

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<v Speaker 1>old way is the best way, and they're in enough

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<v Speaker 1>position of power to do something about it or a

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<v Speaker 1>minimum control us on online. So back to the economic

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<v Speaker 1>restorative justice or reparations or scary words or anything like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even have to talk about. Listen, Biden wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make education free. Let me interrupt.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to forgive thee not just that, not just that,

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<v Speaker 2>make it education free moving forward to but yes that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of the these things once you see that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to connect some dots and sound like a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theorist here, but everything that I see time and again,

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<v Speaker 1>it almost seems like if black people stand to benefit

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<v Speaker 1>from it, there is a much stronger response to it

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<v Speaker 1>than if only your majority white people benefit from it

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<v Speaker 1>from the right and the far right. Okay, now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not imagining that. I know that I've seen it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Far too much data that supports what you're saying or

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<v Speaker 2>or articles or Yeah. So that is something that at

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<v Speaker 2>least in my experience, has been very real. But okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do I may want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that I make this point. So economic restorative justice.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you talk about I talked about the.

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<v Speaker 1>Schools I talked about, Okay, let's talk about voting. Voting

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<v Speaker 1>happens when p people are able to take time off

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<v Speaker 1>of what we don't have a national voting holiday. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you suppose that is because then poor people would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to vote? Yeah? Right, So anyway, poor people,

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<v Speaker 1>black people, black people, liberal, you know, et cetera, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they you know, you get what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>so when when when you're poor and you're living hand

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<v Speaker 1>to mouth, your ability to let your voice be heard

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<v Speaker 1>is compromised. Right, in the past, they had things like

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<v Speaker 1>poll taxes and literacy tests and you know that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and it's just kind of evolved. Right. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Mandering is the most obvious way of disenfranchising black people

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, but these other tactics work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, when you're poor, let's say you resort to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever means necessary to feed your family. Okay, these means

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<v Speaker 1>might not, strictly speaking, be the most legal means, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're poor. What are you going to do? I gotta eat,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta feed my family. This is what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bus and move right. So you bust a

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<v Speaker 1>move and you get hemmed up by the police. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do the police do. They take you to jail,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put you in jail. Okay. Now, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>did have a job and you're trying to supplement that income. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you're in jail as a poor person, the

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<v Speaker 1>only way that you can get out is when you

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<v Speaker 1>bail out. Okay. Now, I'm talking about all these things

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<v Speaker 1>because they disproportionately affect black people. Okay, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have money to bail out, Well, then you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been shoplifting in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And if you're a person with me, then you

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<v Speaker 2>do commit a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have the money to bail out.

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<v Speaker 2>You got the money to bail out. You don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have to spend the night in jail, exactly. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>our former commander in chief turned himself in and then

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<v Speaker 2>went home because he had the means to do so. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>black people who can't afford bill, and in some instances

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever even commit a crime, are never even tried

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<v Speaker 2>for said crime. They're just arrested and then they bailed

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't make bail, so they're just hailed a month,

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<v Speaker 2>awaiting trial for years sometimes right, Okay, So with I

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<v Speaker 2>forget his name, but in upstate New York, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about, Let's find his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure he said his name because

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<v Speaker 1>he's passed away and it's importan press to say his name.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so you're in jail, So what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>the job that you might have had. Well, now you've

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<v Speaker 1>lost that job because you're held in jail, can't make bill,

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<v Speaker 1>And then what impact does that have on your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're fending for themselves, and think of the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that has on the community. Right. So again, economic restorative justice,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the source of many of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that the black people have, and our inability to shape

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<v Speaker 1>our reality stems from a lot of these economic limitations

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<v Speaker 1>that are the result, again of a long history of

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<v Speaker 1>this country disenfranchising black people or actively stealing. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about government agencies, right, Okay, let's find another one.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, we're talking about I wanted to mention this

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<v Speaker 1>one about police training. Okay, so we were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>dispel the myth that better police training leads to better officers.

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<v Speaker 1>And where do you move on?

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<v Speaker 2>There were so many stories when I put in died,

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<v Speaker 2>denied bail upstate New York that I can't find this

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman's name. And I don't mean this lightheartedly. There are

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<v Speaker 2>too many stories for me to even figure out who

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. So just imagine this idea. You're arrested,

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<v Speaker 2>there's proof that you didn't do this thing, but no

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<v Speaker 2>one ever sees that there's truth because you couldn't bail out,

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<v Speaker 2>and while you're hailed to be sentenced and tried at

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<v Speaker 2>some point other people are being arrested at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>and these people are being hailed and awaiting sentencing during

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<v Speaker 2>COVID government institutions, paperwork, logjams, it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>On and on.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see how a month, several months, a year,

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<v Speaker 2>multiple years can go by, and because you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the means to do anything about it, the system eachs

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<v Speaker 2>you alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally. Well, I happen to remember a detail about his

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<v Speaker 1>case that he was accused of stealing a backpack, which

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<v Speaker 1>he maintained the entire time that he didn't steal, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what I plugged in. His name is Khalik Browder.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to make sure that I said his

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<v Speaker 1>name because he's an example of the aforeman scenario. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so again back to police training, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this on the show. So in short, there's data that

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that increased police training does not lead to changed attitudes.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of will adopt a different posture for about

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<v Speaker 1>a month and then they revert to type. They are

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<v Speaker 1>back on whatever they were on before. So the diversity

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<v Speaker 1>training or the whatever the training is that that officersity training,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff, It doesn't work based on the data.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know we have this in a previous episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Please go to civicyper dot com download and check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't you can't miss it. It's recent enough, probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the last two months. We did that episode. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course we cited some examples of police trainers

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<v Speaker 1>who the people who are responsible for training the offers

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<v Speaker 1>ending lives themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, be that acting in bad faith or making a

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<v Speaker 2>mistake either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so we use this as an example, and we

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<v Speaker 1>cited the data and everything like that on one of

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<v Speaker 1>our posts. Well, some of these comments again, so okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have them right if we want a second

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<v Speaker 1>where to go, police don't need anything. The people need

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<v Speaker 1>to act right and force social norms and quit making

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<v Speaker 1>excuses for bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so if as if you behave bad you

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<v Speaker 2>should be killed. But and you know what, I think

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<v Speaker 2>even that person thinks that that would be a ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>way to end their own comment. Right, people just need

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<v Speaker 2>to act better, because if you behave bad you should

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<v Speaker 2>be murdered. I think even that person would agree that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a ridiculous conclusion to reach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know what, even if there was a

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<v Speaker 1>person really felt like it needs to be that strict,

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<v Speaker 1>don't break the rules, and then you get to live,

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<v Speaker 1>even if the person sincerely felt that way. Right. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to places around the world. They're called what are

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<v Speaker 1>they called, I forget the name of the type of state,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's some sort of state where the penalties for

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<v Speaker 1>crimes are super severe. So you know, no one commits crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but when someone does, it's often the death penalty. Singapore

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<v Speaker 1>is a place like this. I've been there been a

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<v Speaker 1>few times. Actually, I don't you come there, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is how you feel, you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>how the Singaporean government feels. Right, don't do any crime.

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<v Speaker 1>You won't have a problem. Nothing to see here. We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen time again, and you just mentioned Q that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily need to commit a crime to be at

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<v Speaker 1>odds with the police. What we call it is often

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<v Speaker 1>enough just being black and nearby. Right, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing, and if you're not a black person, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know this experience. At some point you just have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of take our work for it. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing. It's not our imagination. We're not victims, and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants that who wants to be a victim.

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<v Speaker 2>Pause, we are victims. Well, we're not playing the victory imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not making these things up. These are real life

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<v Speaker 2>experiences that we go through for simply existing in the

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<v Speaker 2>skin we were born into. I have never done drugs

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. I was pulled over on a highway

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<v Speaker 2>and a brand new car. Police dogs came and the

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<v Speaker 2>police told us that their dog sensed or found or

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<v Speaker 2>smelled drugs and the car I just bought. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't us, that maybe someone walked by the car

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<v Speaker 2>with drugs in their posts and brand brushed up against

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<v Speaker 2>the car. That was not my imagination, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last stop was one hundred and fifty miles

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<v Speaker 1>prior to that. That really happened. I was there, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. So anyway, the long and the short of

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you can appreciate that no matter what happens,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things deserve someone to think about them,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people really need to be educated. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to fight this battle in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments section. That's not how this works. But we

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<v Speaker 1>do recognize that you, our listener, encounter these talking points

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<v Speaker 1>in your day to day lives. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>And as these things come up, our hope is that

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<v Speaker 1>we've given you a little bit more to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>One last thing before I go. I made a comment

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<v Speaker 1>recently where I was saying that you and I we

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<v Speaker 1>we deleted our Twitter accounts because we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in spaces where the in word flies freely. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was a person that responded to that saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you don't listen to rap music and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch black comedy and that sort of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have a different idea of what in word flies

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<v Speaker 1>freely means than I do. Because black people say that word.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've done an episode on this, feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and check the archives. Why is the word

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<v Speaker 1>so offensive when non black people use it? But the

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<v Speaker 1>long and the short of it is that for black people,

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<v Speaker 1>it does not sound like an insult when we hear

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<v Speaker 1>other black people say it. This has been my experience. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when other people say it, it does sound like an insult.

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<v Speaker 1>It may as well be two different words, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so the N word does fly freely on Twitter because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone uses it. It does not fly freely in hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>because where I can sit, you know, it's only black

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<v Speaker 1>people saying that We'll leave that one right there. With

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind, thank you for walking this path with us.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of a weird episode for us to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being honest. Normally we talk about things that are happening,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're trying to give you some game.

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<v Speaker 2>And for you guys, I know some of you are like,

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<v Speaker 2>why do you guys even pay attention to that. The

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<v Speaker 2>truth of the matter is, people pretend that social media

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<v Speaker 2>isn't real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very real.

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<v Speaker 2>Spend all of us spend a large portion of our

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<v Speaker 2>days there, and when every comment you get reads like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes even those of us that consider ourselves kind

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<v Speaker 2>of emotionally intelligent and sane pause for a second, like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>am I the one that's tripping here?

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<v Speaker 2>Peace,