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Speaker 1: Good morning, Sweirl and welcome to the No Dungks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Thursday, January twenty ninth, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm Jay Skeith here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always tas.

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Speaker 2: Mellis Grig Fricks. This is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's Mytapsha hot boy Trey KIRBYO went

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Speaker 1: over Yonder making the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is here, we are Hello everybody on YouTube. Hello,

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Speaker 1: podcast listeners, got a fun show lined up for you today.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk Lebron, how emotional he got in his return

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks have rebounded after that post Cup slump, big

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Speaker 1: win against the Raptors. We'll talk about them. Tatum, what's

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Speaker 1: going on with him? Is he coming back? Is he not?

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Speaker 1: We'll get into some of those last night's games as well.

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Speaker 1: But but, but, but we start with some big news

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Speaker 1: here on Thursday. It's not quite ay honest trade request,

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Speaker 1: but it's pretty damn close. ESPN's Shams Sharanya is reporting

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Speaker 1: that Yannis is ready for a new home either before

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Speaker 1: the February fifth trade deadline or this summer, and the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks are now starting to listen to trade offers.

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Speaker 1: So here we go, buckle up. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: fascinating to see the influx of emergency pods dropping yesterday

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Speaker 1: for this Sham's news. You know, this is something that's

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Speaker 1: been reported for a while, but always you know, Yanna

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Speaker 1: saying I'm not requesting a trade. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: Buck's sort of saying, ah, no, no, no, we're not

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Speaker 1: looking at offers. But now they are tasks before we

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Speaker 1: get into actual hypothetical trades where he could land. What

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Speaker 1: was your reaction to the report there yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like the instant reaction from other podcasts because

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Speaker 2: they did the what draft picks can other teams get

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Speaker 2: rid of? Work? For me, I thought they did a

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Speaker 2: really good job. Where are these Bucks? What is the

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Speaker 2: front office really looking at? As far as Jiannis goes,

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Speaker 2: I think his injury did speed this up in a

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Speaker 2: couple ways. First, I did think he wanted to give

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Speaker 2: it a try this year completely to see what Miles

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Speaker 2: Turner is beside him, what Ryan Rawlins along with Kevin

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Speaker 2: Porter Junior is in the backcourt. Now that you have

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Speaker 2: an improved, Ryan Rawlins Kevin Porter Jr. Is their second

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Speaker 2: best score now that he's also out, I think Janny's

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Speaker 2: basically said, oh man, we were done. We really have

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Speaker 2: nowhere to go. Combined with his injury, it's basically at

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Speaker 2: a point where he says to himself the last four playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I've been injured in two of them. My right calf

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Speaker 2: has been hurt twice over the last couple months. And

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Speaker 2: maybe he's saying to Alexis or alex aaratsis his agent,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many more years I got left.

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Speaker 2: Even though he told us that he's going to catch

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan in but four years for the all time

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Speaker 2: points leading score. I think he realizes that maybe it's

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Speaker 2: just time to get this thing going, just because of

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Speaker 2: how bad things are in Milwaukee period. If he wasn't injured,

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Speaker 2: I think it would be a different scenario. This team

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Speaker 3: I mean there are five hundred when Yana's plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think he was willing to give

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Speaker 2: the guys around him a try. But now that the

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Speaker 2: injury has happened, it's over. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Janis in the summer said I want to give

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Speaker 3: it a shot. But if in six to seven months

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Speaker 3: I changed my mind, that's just a human thing to do.

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Speaker 3: And it was four months later because the season when

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Speaker 3: as poorly as some of us expected it to. Jannis

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Speaker 3: got hurt. The team wasn't good enough with him, and

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Speaker 3: the team isn't good enough by far without him. So

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Speaker 3: this was kind of like a Garth Brooks video. Let

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Speaker 3: the conversations begin. But Yannis is doing his thing where

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Speaker 3: he's like, I will not specifically say the words I

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Speaker 3: request the trade. I just want to live in a

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Speaker 3: different place, in a new house, in a new city,

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Speaker 3: playing for a new team. But he will not say

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Speaker 3: he wants to request the trade. But this is basically

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Speaker 3: Yannis and the Bucks, I think, kind of working together,

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Speaker 3: saying let's start a bidding war here. Let's see what

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Speaker 3: And if that happens at the trade deadline, so be it.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise Jannis probably just sits the rest of the season,

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Speaker 3: in the summer. I still think it's more likely, actually

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Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, I think an off season trade makes

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Speaker 1: more sense for the Bucks. Yes, because there'll be more

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Speaker 1: the postseason. And with the latest CBA the way it is,

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Speaker 1: like these type of superstar deals, they're just much more

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Speaker 1: difficult to pull off during the season because of luxury

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Speaker 1: tack and apron concerns and all that. But a deadline

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Speaker 1: swap makes more sense for Yannis and probably his new team.

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Speaker 1: Like you're saying trade, it's like, oh, yeah, you get

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Speaker 1: him back in theory, and you get a run at

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Speaker 1: the postseason with the honest this year. I mean he

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Speaker 1: do you have a feeling on this, are you still

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Speaker 1: a summer man here that this happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, I do think that they came out and made

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Speaker 2: this statement to get everybody talking, to get every other

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Speaker 2: to do right by Jannis and send him somewhere he

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Speaker 2: wants to go. So you have all these teams get

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Speaker 2: for example, a Golden State, are you going to sign

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Speaker 2: an extension there? They need to know that, they need

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Speaker 2: to know that for a few reasons, They're going to

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Speaker 2: give us way more if you're going to sign an extension,

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Speaker 2: So we need to have that conversation. Will we get

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Speaker 2: sign an extension in there? So I think there's there's

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Speaker 2: And plus he can sign that extension earlier because if

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Speaker 2: he gets traded in the off season, it is six

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Speaker 2: months after that trade date that he can get that

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Speaker 2: two and seventy five million dollars uh, And that's a

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Speaker 2: start bidding because this is a guy that everyone was

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Speaker 2: already talking about for months. Yeah, but I think this

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Speaker 2: is a clear example and that's why these emergency pods happened.

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Speaker 2: That this is going to happen extremely soon because honest

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Speaker 2: is just frankly done with this team, although he won't

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Speaker 2: saying he's not yelling. He's not yelling. So the so

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Speaker 2: the trees I'm leaving, it's Alex Uratsis has to do it.

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Speaker 2: And there also was that rumor that he was trading

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Speaker 2: changing agents.

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Speaker 1: Henry Abbott was throwing that out there, but that was

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Speaker 1: a possibility that he was looking to trade agents, maybe

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Speaker 1: go with Rich Paul. And if and if you trade agents,

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Speaker 1: there is a rule in place that then you cannot

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Speaker 1: and that's obviously gets U up against the deadline. Those

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Speaker 3: Just more motivation to get it done soon because I

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Speaker 3: think Alex would want the pay day, He would want

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Speaker 3: that ten percent of a two hundred and seventy million

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the control part is important. I know

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Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this before. This idea,

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Speaker 1: like with Janni's next contract, because he does have a

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Speaker 1: player option in twenty twenty seven to twenty eight, which

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Speaker 1: effectively right now means he'd be on an expiring contract

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Speaker 1: reassurances that he's committed, like you would think. So like

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Speaker 1: this isn't like a raptor's roll in the dice on

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Speaker 1: Kawhi because they got Kawhi for not a lot. The

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Speaker 1: honest is gonna get a hell of a package. So

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Speaker 1: like you're giving up a lot, you're giving up a lot,

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Speaker 1: draft cable, you're probably giving up young players. Whatever. So

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Speaker 1: he allows Giannis and his agent, who is still his

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Speaker 1: destination I think when it comes to these trade talks

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Speaker 1: because of the whole well, yeah, I can be a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, We've seen that sort of thing happen all the time.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis is one that I think of where he's like,

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Speaker 3: I won't sign with Boston, so Boston was never a

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Speaker 3: Giannis is going to have a deal in place and

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Speaker 3: he'll sign the extension as soon as he posses.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I one hundred percent agree. Should we get

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Speaker 2: No, well, of course there's always a seugh ad. But

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Speaker 2: let's know, there's plenty of teams here. There's so many teams.

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Speaker 3: About don't want to go all twenty nine?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean, let me see if I have

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Speaker 2: all twenty nine listed Charlotte. The thing is about these

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Speaker 2: make deals. They could be the third team in the

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Speaker 2: get to the Golden State Warriors, for instance, they got

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Speaker 2: So maybe there's a third team involved to say, hey, Chicago,

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Speaker 2: Koby Whye E's signing there for the long term, or

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Speaker 1: So see, some deals linked to Giannis are going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's start with the Atlanta Hawks though, because they've

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Speaker 1: been rubored before to be like sort of big game hunting.

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Speaker 1: They have arguably one of the most coveted draft assets

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Speaker 1: in the league, right, the more favorable twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: The Hawks also have the less favorable twenty seven first

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Speaker 1: deal breaker here TK, when you're talking about a hypothetical

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Speaker 1: making a move for Yannis. We have it here up

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. In every trade Giannice has traded, I'm including

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Speaker 3: This sucks for any team that's trading for Yan.

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Speaker 2: Now, well it's like one point twenty five. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: But if you're honest and his brother come to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: So Yannis, Look, it's his honest about the brother part.

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because the Hawks to me, actually

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Speaker 3: Number one being the New Orleans slash Milwaukee pick that's

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Speaker 3: Number two would be Jalen Johnson. Like, that's a guy

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the Bucks would want to get back, and

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Speaker 3: ain't no way the Hawks are doing both Jalen Johnson

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Speaker 3: that's not an exciting team to me. That's not a

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Speaker 2: And that's why a team like the Atlanta Hawks might

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Speaker 2: They're not one guy away. They're not a Yannis away

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Speaker 1: Do you think the buckstill would immediately say, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: take it if, like Trey said, the Hawks were like

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Speaker 2: Now yet now we're talking, yeah, that's a great deale

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Speaker 1: Yeahah yeah, but yeah the Hawks, no way they're going

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the best of both worlds for the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. Yeah. My term for championship team would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a that's a huge, massive But

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Speaker 1: I think a big part of this if the Hawks

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Speaker 1: We got honest, like you said, replacing two guys that

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Speaker 1: They're still below five hundred. So it's like, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: It basically has to be included for a team for

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Speaker 3: Honest, this is seeming more likely to me than I

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Speaker 3: Like I don't believe Mike dun Levy either. You wouldn't

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Speaker 3: who knows what's happening. But getting those future Warrior picks

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: They were a team that was sort of interested in

431
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kaminga over the summer, so maybe that's still interesting

432
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: to them. I don't really know, but this seems more

433
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: likely to me than when Jimmy was still playing, because

434
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 3: then I didn't think that the I don't think the

435
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 3: Warriors would trade Draymond Green, but I do think they

436
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 3: would trade injured Jimmy.

437
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they have to. And I like how

438
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: you put multiple picks on Yeah, on.

439
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: The Barris four first round picks and then also swaps.

440
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: They got so many picks. Yeah, they have four tradeable

441
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: first rounders and then three potential pick swaps to go

442
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: along with these guys that they'd have to get rid of,

443
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: as you said in Butler and Kaminga, most likely, but

444
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: I do think there would have to be a third

445
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: team involved because the picks are very good. And again,

446
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: I do think that all these talks have been forced

447
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 2: to happen right here, right now, so every team outbids

448
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: each other. But I think ideally they want to pick

449
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 2: and they want a good player, and so I do

450
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: think they would trade one of those picks instead of

451
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: going directly to Milwaukee. Milwaukee would say trade it to

452
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 2: let's get a third team involved that can give us

453
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,479
Speaker 2: a player. And I do think the Bulls, I know

454
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: they're not the sexiest of names, but a pick four

455
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: Io Desu or Kobe White, you know, whether it's protections

456
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: or whatever, to get that involved, at least give the

457
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: Bucks something. I mean, that's it's outbidding time. We're here, man,

458
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 2: We're seven days away from the trade deadline. Every team

459
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 2: is talking, and Yannis is the center of the world.

460
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: So this is what you know. The the Bucks ideally

461
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: want both. So I think, yeah, this could be the

462
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: juiciest of them all in terms of both a pick

463
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: and a player. Ideally, you know, I'm thinking what John

464
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: Horst is thinking. They want both as well. So, but

465
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 2: I also know.

466
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: The warriors of all these teams, where a lot of

467
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: these teams were going to talk about like they are

468
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: sort of desperate, they know where they stand. With Steph

469
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: Curry nearing the end of his career, Yeah, and still

470
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: wanting to like give him maybe another crack at a

471
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: championship here in the Twilight What better way than to

472
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: do it with you, honest, I mean, so you can

473
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: ask for you know, the Moon and the Stars.

474
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, did the package increase get better because

475
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's injury? Yeah? Yeah, I like Trey brought up.

476
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: I think they're they're desperation definitely picked up because they

477
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: got to go for it. It feels like, but I

478
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: think they would be willing to trade Jimmy Butler. I

479
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: didn't even know about that Mike Dunleavy quote, but I

480
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: already thought that the Warriors are leading, they're leading the

481
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: pack here, and then you hear that done Leavy quote,

482
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: and it's come on, come on. They they're willing to

483
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: they'd have to trade Jimmy Butler because Jimmy's may be

484
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: able to help them next year. But they got to

485
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: go for it.

486
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Speaker 1: The Miami Heat are a popular team in the honest US.

487
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: They're always a popular team when a big SuperStar's name

488
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: is coming.

489
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 3: Up, and someday they'll get one.

490
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

491
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it struck out on basically every other big

492
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: name that's come on the market. Yeah, Kevin Durant, Damian Lillard,

493
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: those two. But I mean the last time they did

494
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: it Lebron, that was twenty twelve.

495
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty eleven.

496
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: That's a long time ago.

497
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: It's a long time. So what could the Heat offer

498
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks. Well, it could look something like this,

499
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: could be Tyler Hero, Jimei Hawkes, Junior, Terry Rozier his

500
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: expiring deal. Maybe possibly, We're not sure, we think so

501
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: u and then multiple picks and swaps as well. Now

502
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: they don't have as many draft picks right now that

503
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: they could put in if they're twenty thirty and they're

504
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: twenty thirty two, but there are swap rights in play

505
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: that they could throw in there. Jannis and his brother

506
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: going to Miami Heat. So Trey, yeah, how do you

507
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: feel about this one? Miami is a player here.

508
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: I like to see him getting in it. And then

509
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: I also saw that Janice's mom posted a throwback photo

510
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: of Janis in the Miami Arena on Facebook. I went

511
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: to Facebook today to look at that. Yeah, I thought

512
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: it was on her Instagram, but no, she was using

513
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: a different meta property. Oh well, everything matters, all are important.

514
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: So she was in the Cassea Center, probably known.

515
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 3: As at the time. Yeah, he was young, Janis. Yeah,

516
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: he was slaying your yogurt back then. That's how young

517
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: he was.

518
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: So she was excited because he does bring up when

519
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: he does his press conferences that his mom or his

520
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: wife say, oh, we're going out Memphis, and he that's

521
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: that's the one that he brought up Memphis for some reason.

522
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: I guess it was part of some rumor and he

523
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 2: said no, but they want to know Memphis. No, but

524
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: Miami sounds more.

525
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: Miami's attractive.

526
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: If you're on Facebook and you're liking it.

527
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: Maybe is this enough to entice the Bucks something around this?

528
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: You could put other players in, other young talent in

529
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

530
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 3: I don't think. So this is a pretty poor return

531
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: to me. Is the worst return we're seeing just because

532
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: we've seen with Miami throughout their history. Well, maybe things

533
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: will change whenever pat Riley eventually moves on, but we've

534
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 3: heard no rumblings of that happening. But they are always

535
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: going to be trading their first round picks to stay

536
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: at least competitive, Like they dodge a lot of bullets

537
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: that other teams that are based in Chicago don't. But

538
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: Miami ends up in the play in tournament all the time,

539
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: and they trade a lot of their future to stay

540
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: in that same play in tournament, so you know that

541
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: they're going to try and stay competitive. I do think

542
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: getting Tyler Hero and himI Hawkes back allows the Bucks

543
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 3: to stay tank worthy for the rest of this season.

544
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: Hero seems to be a little bit banged up. He's

545
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: been in and out of the lineup. Hawks is not

546
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 3: going to lead the team to the playoffs. So I

547
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: think that this year's pick could still be good, and

548
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: maybe that's the best thing the Bucks get back in.

549
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: This is that kind of a guarantee of a top

550
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: five pick going into the song. But I don't this

551
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: doesn't seem great to me to get back for Miami.

552
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: Like Hawk as is good. He could win six Man

553
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 3: of the Year. That seems to be his peak to me. Hero,

554
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: I think we've probably seen it. He was an All

555
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: Star last year.

556
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: He was awesome.

557
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Maybe he gets back to that. And if he's the

558
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: number one guy on a team where he gets to

559
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: take every shot, he probably averages twenty seven a game.

560
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: You're not winning a lot, I don't think, but who knows.

561
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: They would be middling at the best, So I don't

562
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: think this is very good for Milwaukee.

563
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be hesitant. I think Miami's more of

564
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: a summer team, being that they get more picks as

565
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: soon as that draft happens. They can trade the twenty

566
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: six pick coming this draft, the thirty pick, and the

567
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: thirty two pick, So he got multiple picks. Well, right now,

568
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: it's just two picks later on next cracade. Yeah, it's

569
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: the next day. It's twenty nine and thirty one to

570
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: add technically, but yeah, they are.

571
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: There are swap rights in twenty nine to thirty one

572
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: and their picks are twenty thirty and thirty two. Who cares, Well,

573
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

574
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: I was going hard. Yeah, we can go there. There

575
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: is a very very interesting because they have if we

576
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: want to geek it out, they have a lottery protected

577
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven first round pick going to Charlotte that

578
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: would turn into an unprotected twenty eight first round pick

579
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: if it doesn't convey in twenty seven, so that ties

580
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: up the rest of the Heats first round picks over

581
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: the next seven drafts. It gets technical. They traded that

582
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: for Terry Rozier. Oh yeah, that was a weird one

583
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: good move, but I will say there's the players going

584
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: to Milwaukee. In this scenario, As you said, Tyler Hero,

585
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: it kind of flies under the radar as an injured guy,

586
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: not only this season but throughout his career. He's pretty

587
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: banged up. You're gonna trade Janis for primarily the premier

588
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: guy here is Tyler Hero, the Terry's rosier contract, only

589
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: a contract and have a hockke as. Yeah, I could

590
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: peek as a six guy, but I just don't think

591
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: it's all that sexy. Four Bucks fans number one and

592
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: number two. The picks just aren't that great. You know.

593
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but this

594
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: is a good example of why this may hold out

595
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: until the summer, just for every team, because the teams

596
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: will be more willing to see what's going on, even

597
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Giannis as well. I mean, there'll be more talks, I know,

598
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: as I said, they've opened up the table for everybody

599
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: to talk. But there'll be more availability and more potential

600
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: for trades in a few months.

601
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, and then the New York Knicks, now we don't

602
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: have a trade board because it is very difficult to

603
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: make a trade right now with no draft capital. That

604
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks basically have yep, you know, they

605
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: got second round picks. I don't think that's going to

606
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: cut it here, and you know, obviously like trading Karl

607
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Anthony Towns, you could do it, but they're a popular

608
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: spot because we've heard reports that Jannis wants to play

609
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: for New York. So can the Knicks find a way

610
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: to make this happen before the deadline trade or is

611
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: like no way?

612
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: I mean, don't call him out. The Nasis was a

613
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: second round pick of the New York Knicks, and that

614
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: guy's turned it into a ten year career. So you

615
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: can get good players dam in the second round. This

616
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 3: is not likely going to happen during the season unless

617
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: Giannis puts his foot down. Is like, I'm only going

618
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: to New York and then it's going to have to

619
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: be going through like the Bobby Mark's hand Book of

620
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: which trade which teams also have first round picks that

621
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: they would help facilitate here because it just doesn't make

622
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: sense to do a deal with the Knicks because I

623
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: don't think Town's coming back to Milwaukee as the featured

624
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: centerpiece in this deal is all that enticing to Milwaukee.

625
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: But you know, We've seen trades happen that aren't great

626
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: for the team because the Bucks would be trying to

627
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: do Giannis a favor. They shouldn't be doing that at

628
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: this point, but they at least have to be mentioned.

629
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: The Knicks do. They have to be mentioned for sure

630
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: because it was a desirable location he wants. He likes

631
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: the idea of European players playing in the big markets,

632
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: especially LA and New York. As he's mentioned when talking

633
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: about Luca Jokic. Just about everybody that being said they

634
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: don't have a first round pick. Would they make a

635
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: third team involved, like our man Tim Bonteps brought up,

636
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: to trade one of their big name players, whether it's

637
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: one of their monster wings like og Especially or talents.

638
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: They go get picks and then return give them up

639
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: for Yetta set A Gooba. It's hard to do. And

640
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: we'll get to the New York Nickson. What they did

641
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: last night and how they look right now. I think

642
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: it's just it's I think they want to give this

643
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: team a shot to see what they got here in

644
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: New York. Like Tray brought up, the Eastern Conference is open.

645
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: You got what you got. Their front office decided to

646
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: fire their coach to see what they got and they

647
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: should probably go for it for one time here before

648
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: tearing it down, because they look damn good. And it's

649
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: not just because I was watching the Toronto Raptors, but

650
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: they just look damn good in general. They look yeah,

651
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: and in general they have turned it around.

652
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh this is I mean at first like oh, there's

653
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: no way this is happening, and I'm like, hold on,

654
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: it is the Knicks, it is Jim Dolan, Like yeah,

655
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: maybe this could happen because it doesn't have to be

656
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: Cat like you're saying. They could do it with og

657
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: Anobi and Josh Hart. Now again, there's not any draft capital,

658
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: there's no real young talent there, Like why would the

659
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: Bucks do that? But that would get it done. Mckail

660
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: bridges can be traded on February first, I think, so

661
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: still before the deadline. He could be involved, so they

662
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: could take one of these wing guys and stuff like that.

663
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: But like, man, Milwaukee would just be doing jannest the

664
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: ultimate favor if there's like no real picks coming, like

665
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: it's like it's mind boggling, Like it's like that is

666
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: silly if they do that.

667
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: That's why the Blazers have been kicking around as a

668
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: potential third team in this because they have a lot

669
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: of bucks picks or swaps from the first Dame trade. Yeah,

670
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: and they have Drew Holliday who could theoretically be going

671
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: back to New York to reunite with Jannis there in

672
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: the Big Apple. But that's like, if you're doing Yanna's

673
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: salary plus Drew's salary being both in the trade, that's

674
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: like eighty four million dollars between him. It's just hard

675
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: to get to that number. But the next do have

676
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: guys they can trade to get to that number, so

677
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: it's at least it's at least interesting.

678
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, in theory, trading og to another team gets picks

679
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: and then you turn those picks into yeahnes, I suppose

680
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: that's that's that's sort of the theory behind it. And yeah,

681
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: the Portland ones getting their picks back. They got two

682
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: pick swaps in twenty eight and then thirty so oh yeah,

683
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: you just keep your own pick plus their own pick

684
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: in twenty nine. So there's that involved. But that seems weird.

685
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: It seems to me to me like they would want

686
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: to go get another treasure chest, whether it's the Warriors

687
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: or the Toronto Raptors where who have so many they

688
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: have all their picks, That makes more sense to me.

689
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: Do you think the Raptors are.

690
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: A potential suitor for Jhannas still with all those draft picks?

691
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: They say there's reports that Scottie Barnes and Brandon Ingram

692
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: are the untouchables on the Raptors roster. If you believe

693
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: that for even.

694
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: A Yannis, Yeah, I think the Warriors are more likely

695
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: than the Toronto Raptors.

696
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: Would you trade Scotty because I mean, I'm I don't

697
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: believe Brandon Ingram would be untouchable.

698
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: Right the Scotty bar.

699
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: Would you trade Scotty Barnes?

700
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

701
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: It's similar to the Jalen Johnson with the obviously the

702
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: landlah Hawks. It's like, where do you draw the line

703
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: on a young, talented guy that looks like you should

704
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: be a perennial All Star moving forward, an All NBA player.

705
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: And they drew the line on acquiring Kevin Durant with

706
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes essentially back then. Would they do it again?

707
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

708
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: I think they would do it again. Yeah, because if

709
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah's age, it's it's and his and his body yeah,

710
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: I think they would. They would say no, no Scottie,

711
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: No Scottie.

712
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Any other teams that you want to talk about here

713
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: in the running for a honest trade before the deadline.

714
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: We haven't heard hardly anything about the Houston Rockets or

715
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs, both teams that have like gigantic

716
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: pick packages that are competitors for the championship this very year.

717
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: And I think we even heard about the Rockets. They're like,

718
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: we're not making an offer. Yeah, Like them and the

719
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: Nets are the two teams that are out. That seems

720
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: odd to me. The Spurs seem to have fallen away,

721
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: though the idea of Wemby and Jannis together it is

722
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: definitely interesting to think about, just.

723
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: To speak on those two, in particular, the Spurs and Rockets.

724
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: I think if the Bucks maybe wisely will come to

725
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: see what they actually get if they traded Giannis last June,

726
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: basically after the Damian Lillard you know, tears as Achilles,

727
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well, maybe are screwed here. As

728
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: numerous people have pointed out, they probably could have extracted

729
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: a pretty historic package from one of those asset rich

730
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Western Conference teams. But now I think the Rockets and Spurs.

731
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: They're probably keeping their best assets off the table. They

732
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: obviously look like great teams in the Western Conference. So

733
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: I just I believe these reports. I like, not right now,

734
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: not for Yannis, not with all these young guys that

735
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: you want and all this draft capital you want. So yeah,

736
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: I sort of think they're out of the mix here.

737
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: At least what we're talking seems like John is trade

738
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: deadline movies.

739
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And Houston's now got another issue with Steven

740
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: Adams out. They've got the Fred van Vliet issue out.

741
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: They need a ball handler. I think that's their I

742
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: know we're talking about Yannison. That should always be the

743
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: number one goal because danist Google, But I think number

744
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: one goal is they've got other issues, primarily the ball handler.

745
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: I think that's what they're going to go for. But

746
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: they have, yeah, five tradable first round picks, so I

747
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: think that's what they're seeking out. Could they be a

748
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: third team involved in the Could they be the third

749
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: team to go get a some sort of pick or

750
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: player for them, I guess, But really, yeah, they're not

751
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 2: part of it. And listen, this National podcast hasn't even

752
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: mentioned the Los Angeles Lakers, So good for us?

753
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: Wow, what are they trading?

754
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they only have they only have one first round pick?

755
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: Connect Yeah, trade request he wants out, Yes he does.

756
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 2: But after the draft day they do have three first

757
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: round picks, right thirty three team, Hey, we will stink

758
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: in thirty one and thirty three. Luca's gonna be old

759
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: now he could still be playing, So that one, it

760
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: doesn't seem That doesn't seem real.

761
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: Any other any other teams or do you feel like

762
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: if this happens, it is the Warriors, the Heat, maybe

763
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: the Hawks, or maybe even the Knicks if they can

764
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: obviously scrounge together draft picks from other teams.

765
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: I think it's the team that's closest to the championship.

766
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's the Hawks. I do think

767
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: it would be the Warriors, if any right here right now?

768
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: All right, well we'll wait to see.

769
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: Here.

770
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: Uh well, you're not excited about a vooch and Patrick

771
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: Williams lead package for Yannis and nine thousand first round picks?

772
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: Please please save us, Please save us, yan Us come

773
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: to Chicago. You said you like it there. They drafted

774
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 3: your brother once upon a time too. Please we'll even

775
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: throw in Bozellis, We'll do it. Wow.

776
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Okay, now we got a conversation.

777
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: With which brother they draft.

778
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: I think they had coastas Oh oh wow, forget but

779
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 3: he likes to play on the coastess by New York.

780
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: Sorry for the pun. So I just wanted to bring

781
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: up Brooklyn. Brooklyn a thing.

782
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: They're one of the teams that said.

783
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: Nahun Mark says, go too early, too early for us.

784
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: I just don't buy any team that's not good training

785
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: for Gannis here and almost nor should they in a way, like, Okay,

786
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna sell a bunch of jerseys, you're gonna put

787
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: butts in seats, that's cool, But I don't like Jannis

788
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: on another crappy team. Is just Janus on the Bucks

789
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: right now? Like it's not that inspiring. Yeah, So he's

790
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: got to go to a good team to win his

791
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, that second championship that he wants. So it's

792
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: got to be a team in the mix, right Yeah.

793
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: And I do think the twelve and a half years

794
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: that he's given them, the blood, the sweat that he's

795
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: put in there will make the Milwaukee Bucks front office

796
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: trade him to somewhere he wants to go. That is

797
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: a part of it. He has to want to go there, and.

798
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Again, because of the contract extension, he can sort of

799
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: dictate that as well.

800
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, and he has to be willing to

801
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: put pen to paper and sign an extension, yes, and

802
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: just be there for a long time. So Brooklyn, as

803
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: much as he's had fun there when it's been Greek

804
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: Night and he goes there, there's been plenty of dances

805
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: that they've had a lot of fun. Astoria shows up.

806
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: Is it? It is fun, But I ain't gonna win,

807
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: So it's a tough one. It's Michael Porter and they

808
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: have ten draft picks, Michael Porter and ten draphics all

809
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: you want.

810
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. This Mark's fact blew

811
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: my mind. And I'm just taking him for his word

812
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: here because it sounds insane when you say it out loud.

813
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: But based solely on first round picks, the Thunder, the Nets,

814
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: the Hornets, the Grizzlies, the Kings, the Jazz, and the

815
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Wizards have the most to offer because those seven teams

816
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I just listed control fifty percent of the tradable first

817
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: in the next seven years. I just listed seven teams

818
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: that have fifty percent of the tradable first over the

819
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: next seven years. That sounds fake, that sounds incorrect. But

820
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm trusting Bobby on this one. He knows this stuff.

821
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

822
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: Man.

823
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Bobby would never lie. I would never lie about that.

824
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: Go to Charlotte, that'd be awesome, basic.

825
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be cool.

826
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: They have like so many bags of beans they could

827
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: throw it in to equal up to Giannis's numbers. They

828
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: got a lot of picks. Yeah, it would be an

829
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: exciting team. Stays in the East. Yeah, man, I think

830
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: that's a part of it too.

831
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: That's the thing is interesting, Like I mean, I get it.

832
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: I get it because your parent with Curry and you

833
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: got Draymond. You still got a good team. But you're

834
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference, like he really wants to win

835
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: a second title. Your chances are best the state. Peace,

836
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: my man. So go to Miami, go to the Knicks,

837
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: go to one of these other teams maybe.

838
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: But there was the seventy six ers, chitter chatter, three

839
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: first round picks that they have offer, and they do

840
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: have young players plenty. John Horst would probably say VJ.

841
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: Agecumbe has to come over, right, like one of them.

842
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Jared McCain and like, I know, he's had a brutal

843
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: sophomore year, but like you know, and his rookie.

844
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: Year staying east, you play with Embaid, you got banged

845
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: up legs. Obviously that would be a problem, but the

846
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: East East side, I do understand.

847
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: So basically you're trading everybody except Maxi and embiid in

848
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: that hypothetical to get young.

849
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Untouchable George, well, I don't think he would be part

850
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: of it. He would not be part of it. From

851
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee side, they're not training for.

852
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Basically, when the dust would settle, you would have Maxie,

853
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: you would have Paul George, you'd have Johannest and you'd

854
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: have em Beat and then whoever else is remaining.

855
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: It's a Darryl Morriy move. Yeah.

856
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Look, and three.

857
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: First round picks that I'm not hunters. I think they

858
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: have three first round literally through first round picks of

859
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: their own that they can trade, and those would be very,

860
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: very appealing because eventually Joel and Bid will not play

861
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: basketball anymore, you know, like they're they're getting closer to

862
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: their end. I mean, Maxie will still be there, but

863
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: you know, Squint and they look like really good picks.

864
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: Jannis is such a good player that Bobby Marks basically

865
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: had to upload every bit of information he has about

866
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: twenty nine teams in the league. He's like, here's every

867
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: asset in the entire NBA. You know, every single draft

868
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: pick now that is possible to be traded for the

869
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: next seven years, just because Giannis wants to get a

870
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: new house.

871
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's amazing. Yeah yeah, I'm trying to

872
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: think we've been here, We've been doing this forever. Has

873
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: there been a moment like this where the draft experts

874
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: get every pick out there into the database, they catalog everything,

875
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: and then they show you everything, like we don't really

876
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: They obviously catalog them at all times, but they don't

877
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: really publicize them.

878
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: Now, you usually get like four teams, Yeah, not twenty nine.

879
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: Do you think the thunder or calling the Bucks and

880
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: kicking the tires on trading for you? Honest, No, I

881
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: don't think they are. Okay, I'm curious, like we always

882
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: hear all twenty nine teams are calling.

883
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: No they're not.

884
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they are, but I wonder how yeah

885
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: many are, Like is it twenty plus? Well it should

886
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: they there? Well, you don't want that to leak though,

887
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: do you sometimes you don't doubt. All Right, we'll leave

888
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: you honest there for now. Lots more honest talk, I'm

889
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: sure in the next week or so, or an emergency

890
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: podcast if he's traded, we'll take a break and then

891
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: we'll get into some of the games last night, true

892
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,319
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895
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896
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906
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907
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600
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908
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: When they play the last game of the season, that

909
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910
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Football is over after that Super Bowl sixty game.

911
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: What about the flag football leagues? Are they around?

912
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: I mean they got to start training for the Olympics.

913
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,240
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00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,600
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916
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: a little true or false. It was an emotional night

917
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: for Lebron James. He returned to Cleveland and they welcomed

918
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: the hometown hero back with a tribute video, and he

919
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: was quite emotional. Really touched him there. He was appeared

920
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: to be crying and wiping tears from his eyes. So

921
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: I want to know him doing so him showing that

922
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: emo emotion. Do you think Lebron has played his last

923
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: game in Cleveland? Sure? Or false? He's played his last

924
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: game in Cleveland.

925
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: I think it's false. I don't think he's done. I

926
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: think there's another season in him. He definitely cried. I

927
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: think think that was more of a tactical move. By

928
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers to try and win a basketball game.

929
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: To play the moment from two thousand and SEVENS playoffs,

930
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: the second round where the Detroit Pistons were giving it

931
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: to Lebron, they're hitting him, and then Lebron became a

932
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: basketball man and was able to beat them with that

933
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: ridiculous double overtime performance, and then he goes on to

934
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: the finals. I mean, I can't believe that's nearly twenty

935
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: years ago. I'm sure. I think he just was sitting

936
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: there and saying, whoa, you guys are good. You got me,

937
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: You got me. Basically, you were able to hit me

938
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: right here. And everything was weird about Lebron, even his

939
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: postgame interview where he was sort of asked about the

940
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: whole thing, and he said, you know when you were

941
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: here and you went to ten straight finals and then

942
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: you go to la and then he stopped. He said,

943
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: WHOA hold on tenh three finals? Did I go to

944
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: ten three finals? He asked somebody, and they said no,

945
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: it's eight goes. Oh yeah, eight, I've been to ten finals.

946
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: Like he never screws up, and he just screwed up

947
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: and that was that was all it was. They got him,

948
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: They got him and he had a bad night. He

949
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: had a bad night game wise, playwise, so I think

950
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: they did a great job. But I don't think he's done.

951
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: You think he will maybe play for the Cleveland Cavaliers,

952
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know David mennemon saying there's some

953
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: mutual respect, obviously, but the idea that Lebron maybe if

954
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: he finished his career with Cleveland for the third stint.

955
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: But what do you think last night, TK, you can

956
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: talk about that, the emotional tribute video and whether or

957
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: not he played his last game.

958
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm with Tess. I think it's false and I do

959
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: think this is a tactical move, and I do think

960
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: it's because they're recruiting Lebron again and I think he

961
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: will go back there. I think this was all a

962
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: coordinated thing from the Cleveland side. I don't know exactly

963
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: how involved the Lebron would be, but like you mentioned

964
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: in the Dave mcmanimon piece he writes, multiple team and

965
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: league sources told ESPN the Cavaliers would gladly welcome James

966
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 3: back this summer if he wanted to return to Cleveland

967
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: for his twenty fourth NBA season and third stint. With

968
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: the team. Then they play a tribute video for him,

969
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 3: which they've done every time he's come back. He deserves

970
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: one every single time he comes back. I thought it

971
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: was a nice touch that they're wearing like the Lebron

972
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: era jerseys and they show highlights from him wearing those

973
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: jerseys against the Pistons back in two thousand and seven.

974
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: But it just seems unlikely to me that Lebron is

975
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: going to retire at the end of the season without

976
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: announcing at some point this is my last season. The

977
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: guy's wearing a patch on his jersey, honoring himself. I

978
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: think he's going to want the year long retirement tour,

979
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: and I think it will be back home in Cleveland,

980
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 3: where I started and where it ended.

981
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: Very possible. I mean, if you listen to his postgame

982
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: press conference, it is funny. On one hand, for minutes

983
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: at a time, it does sound like this is it,

984
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: Like he's contemplating hanging it up at the end of

985
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: the year. Now. He always says I'll decide after the

986
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: season ends and where I am with my health and

987
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: where I am with my family and all that. So

988
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: he always says that, and he's been pretty consistent, but

989
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 1: on one hand, it sounds like a guy's like contemplating, Wow,

990
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: what a career and maybe this is it, and like

991
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be present and take this in. But

992
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: then on the other hand, the other five or six minutes,

993
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: it sounds like a guy. It's like, Yep, I still

994
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of left in the tank, and I

995
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: probably have one more year left in me and maybe

996
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: it's back here. So it's like, yeah, I'm torn. I

997
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: guess I am on record thinking maybe this is his

998
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: last year. But hell of a move by the Calves.

999
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: You guys are right. The game ops to get his

1000
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: emotions going, and they waxed them, they smoked them, they

1001
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: crushed them by thirty. I mean, we could talk about

1002
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: the game a little bit. We had Luca having a

1003
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: scare there where he hopped after a shot over to

1004
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: the side and he fell off the court in Cleveland

1005
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: because it's a raised, elevated floor and he twisted his ankle.

1006
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: He returned to the game, but the Calves looked awesome

1007
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: and in the second half and steam rolled them here.

1008
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that elevated floor in Cleveland, but

1009
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: it's a thing. And there were people commenting on YouTube

1010
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: on I think it was your short skeets that you

1011
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: made about the elevated floor.

1012
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't me, It wasn't you. No, I don't

1013
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: think I could have.

1014
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: Well, your face is on the on the thumbnails, so

1015
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: I figured it was you. I think anyway, it doesn't matter. Basically,

1016
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: somebody googled, oh they've got an elevated floor. Our video

1017
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: came up. Essentially, this is what happened.

1018
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I will say, we've talked about it before.

1019
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, if the Cavaliers raised court dangerous two

1020
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: years ago, Jay skeets really Yeah, we do a lot

1021
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 3: of content, I guess.

1022
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: So I was like last night judging a lot of

1023
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: people online. I was like, oh, man, we got a

1024
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: bunch of casuals out here because we've known this for

1025
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: a long time that this court isn't very dangerous because

1026
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: it's elevated a ton just the way they built it.

1027
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, sometimes you see them in March madness

1028
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: or something like that when they play in a football

1029
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 2: stadium or something like that, but you don't see it often,

1030
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: but in Cleveland you always see it. I will say

1031
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: a couple of things postgame, when uh, George Sedano asked

1032
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell about the whole Lebron thing, and basically, you know,

1033
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: obviously they love Lebron. And then Jalen Tyson his teammates

1034
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: jumping in saying, this is Donovan Mitchell's team. Now, that

1035
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: was hilarious. Number one, this is Donovan Mitchell's team. It

1036
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: is interesting. It is interesting to have the whole arena

1037
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: cheering for the opposing player. Well, you know you're bawling,

1038
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: But I am glad I mentioned Jalen Tyson. Glad I

1039
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 2: picked him on My Rising Stars game, my roster when

1040
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: we drafted them because I think he was the best

1041
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: player on the floor at times. Yesterday he looked so good,

1042
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: he was so so so good.

1043
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: He was not backing down from Lebron either.

1044
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: No. No. The other part is as far as him

1045
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: going to Cleveland. I hate to talk about money, but

1046
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: what is he going to accept just contract wise because

1047
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: they have so much money tied up? Or is it

1048
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: a trade to signing some sort of deal trade thing

1049
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: or where maybe Cleveland's front office has to just go

1050
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: get rid of guys to opposing teams, teams that are

1051
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: able to accept other contracts. I guess there's that option,

1052
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: but that's the interesting part to me, they got so

1053
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: much money tied up.

1054
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: You don't think Lebron would finish his career playing for

1055
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: the minimum.

1056
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say no.

1057
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a oh I got it, will

1058
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: make fifty million. I don't think he's that kind of guy.

1059
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: But what do I know.

1060
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: He took a discount to go to Miami and then

1061
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: basically hasn't taken a discount I think since then. But

1062
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: you know, he's made a lot.

1063
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: He's doing all right.

1064
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: This would be a fun game to be at if

1065
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: you were a Cavs fan, though see potentially Lebron's last game.

1066
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: He did play his worst game ever in Cleveland, you know,

1067
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: not great, but they smoked the Lakers. You got to

1068
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: have a whole bunch of celebrations. Jalen Tyson was killing me.

1069
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 3: He celebrated a turnover once like it was a first down.

1070
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: It was funny, very good. And you got to see

1071
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 3: that beautiful Calves halftime show.

1072
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dog, And I thought you're gonna add you

1073
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: got to see Bronnie Bronni throwably.

1074
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: It was a.

1075
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Blowout and he played well, and that was sort of

1076
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: cool here and Lebron say like, you know his mom

1077
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: was there, and he's like, my mom is here watching

1078
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: her son and her grandson amazing playing the same game.

1079
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: Mind boggling when you really do put it that.

1080
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: Way for her, He's like, I just thought about this.

1081
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: It's happened multiple times now when the Lakers have played

1082
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. The fans are cheering for Braun. Yeah, and

1083
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: he's played multiple times. Now.

1084
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he threw down a dunk and hit a three

1085
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: year he scored a bit last night. So anyway, uh yeah,

1086
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: fun game for Cavs fans because they got the victory too.

1087
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: And then we've talked about them on yesterday show. They're

1088
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: saying confidence building here with this team. It's without Darius Garland.

1089
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: You can look into that if you want to. Without

1090
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Mobile now, yeah, he's gonna be out one to three

1091
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: weeks with a.

1092
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: Calf injury, not playing until the game like after the

1093
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: l Star game, say yeah, right.

1094
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on the next one. Here. Mckail

1095
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: Bridges scored nineteen of his thirty points in the third quarter.

1096
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns grabbed a zillion rebounds as the Knicks

1097
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: extended their win streak to four with a testy win

1098
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: over the Raptors last night. I thought it was testy

1099
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: because Knicks, We're chirping and talking a lot to the team,

1100
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: to the fans, so it was fun. So that post

1101
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: Cup slump, it might be over true or false tray

1102
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: the Knicks have figured things out and are gonna now

1103
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: stand pat at the trade deadline here or they should.

1104
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's true and false. I'm gonna play

1105
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: both sides of the fence here because I do think

1106
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: they'll stand pat. But I think the reason they're going

1107
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: to be standing pat is because they want to stay

1108
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: in the Giannis chase. And if they trade away what

1109
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: little they have now, they're completely out of it. Like

1110
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier, they're already in the backseat right

1111
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: now trying to get Yannis. So if they want to

1112
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: stay in the mix, they have to keep the little

1113
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: assets they have. I do think they'll make like a

1114
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 3: Gershaan yabuselet move who wants them. He was playing last

1115
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: night a little bit of a showcase for him. I

1116
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: think they'll probably try and upgrade the Jordan Clarkson spot.

1117
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: He's basically been out of the rotation for him. In

1118
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: related news, the Knicks have started winning games since he's

1119
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: been out of the rotation. I don't know if it

1120
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: all factors in together, but the Knicks did look good

1121
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: last night. Town's twenty two boards. That's a lot of

1122
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: roast beef. He could not score. Every time he.

1123
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: Got the ball.

1124
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: They were just stripping it on him down low, Colin

1125
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: Murray Boyles, it was all over him. But I still

1126
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: thought Towns played great. He was so physical, he was

1127
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: playing toffee. Obviously dominated the glass, and that's really where

1128
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: the Knicks won last night. Sixty points in the paint

1129
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: for New York because the Raptors just look pretty sm inside.

1130
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: It was kind of a layup line. Toronto twelve turnovers

1131
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: in the second half, couldn't hit a three. Meanwhile, New

1132
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: York's getting layups and shot ten of nineteen in the

1133
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: second half from three. So it was a good recipe

1134
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: for the next Not to mention ogn and Obi is

1135
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 3: never gonna lose against Toronto. Six and zero. He averages

1136
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: twenty one points per game against the Raptors in those

1137
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: six games, he averages thirteen for his career. Yeah, he's

1138
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: got a chip on his should takes the carsonal to

1139
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: the Raptors for sure, eleven of eight.

1140
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: I love this game because there is like not a rivalry,

1141
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: but you know because of the train maybe yes, animosity

1142
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: and like, oh you saw mckail Bridges. He probably got

1143
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: away with a travel because he got the ball on

1144
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: the wing and he sort of took a couple of steps.

1145
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: Then he hit a three, and obviously fans in the

1146
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: front row were like travel, travel, and he hit the

1147
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: three and he turned around. He's like go like he's

1148
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: like mocking them on the way back, and he was

1149
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: playing with like a little gusto. I thought last night,

1150
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: so the Knicks have won four straight. They beat the Nets,

1151
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: they won in Philly quality win, they beat the Kings okay,

1152
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: but then in a back to back situation went into

1153
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: Toronto and beat the Trey.

1154
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: Brings up a good point as to why they wouldn't

1155
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: make a trade right here, right now that would give

1156
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: up assets that would prohibit them from getting again instead

1157
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: of Kopo. That totally makes sense, and also just them

1158
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: being that good on the floor. Kat had no choice

1159
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: but to play hard because of og An Andoby and

1160
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: how hard he was playing m m kel Bridges. Those

1161
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: two wings were ridiculously good, and how they got into

1162
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: that zone on the Raptors and got into the plane

1163
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: zone and were just they were relentless. I mean they

1164
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: were Hawks, and that third quarter cat had no choice

1165
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: but to pick up and play it really hard. And

1166
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: that awesome offensive rebound that he was able to grab

1167
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 2: while flying out and throw it over his shoulder was sick.

1168
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: But it was led by Bridges who had nineteen in

1169
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: the third quarter of his thirty overall and og Anobi, who,

1170
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean, his dribble package just gets elevated when he

1171
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: plays the Toronto Raptors. He's able to do that little

1172
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: terrible low below his knee, the two step, the eurostep

1173
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: type thing. The dribbling is is beautiful move. He just

1174
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: is a new guy. And I think this is an

1175
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: indicator for the Raptors where Karl Anthony Towns has twenty

1176
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: two boards without Mitchell Robinson in the lineup, that they

1177
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: need a big now, just somebody. They need somebody large.

1178
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: They need somebody, whether it's Goga Bitaz who was ruining

1179
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: the rim in Miami yesterday. He was hanging on the

1180
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: rim pregame and they had to go set it like

1181
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: that type of player is somebody that the Raptors need,

1182
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: just a big body because they're tiny with Yaka Peardle.

1183
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 2: And it's good for Bobby Webster, the new front office

1184
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: that that kind of gets swept under the rug that

1185
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: they just extended Yaka Peardle and his back is out.

1186
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: That's a long, big, long contract. But thirteeny tiny. Good

1187
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: to see Calin Murray boyles back, but again that's without

1188
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson. They also didn't have Deuce, but they kicked

1189
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: as they look great.

1190
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: Two other takeaways for me last night, I guess three

1191
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: if we talk about mckail bridges's postgame interview, which I

1192
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: want to. But the Raptors are a good story this year.

1193
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I've surprised a lot of people.

1194
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, quality record. Obviously, Calin Murray bull has been

1195
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: great when he's playing all this and all this hustle

1196
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: guys and stuff like that. But they're clearly like a

1197
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: tier below the good teams in this league. And that's fine.

1198
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully you get your way into that. But

1199
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: like they have a brutal record against like the best

1200
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: teams in both conferences. I think they're one to nine

1201
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: now against sort of the top top teams. Okay, there's

1202
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: that the Knicks. When you watch them play like this,

1203
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent convinced they can win a title

1204
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: when they play like this, when they play this hard

1205
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: and those wing guys are contributing, And this brunts didn't

1206
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: even have a good game. I mean, it's like sort

1207
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: of a little sick foul trouble that Like when I

1208
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: see this, I'm like, yeah, of course I get it, Dolan,

1209
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: you could make a run here and should make a

1210
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: run in the Eastern Conference this year. And then finally

1211
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: mckail Bridges, that was an enlightening interview after the game.

1212
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw it or heard it.

1213
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: He said he hasn't been coachable recently, potentially due to

1214
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: a sense of entitlement, and he says, I got to

1215
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: be the best teammate I can be and let the

1216
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: basketball speak for itself. So he was like basically talking

1217
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: about like that slump when you know Bridges was having

1218
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: a brutal January and his name's coming up in trade

1219
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: rumors and cat same thing, and oh, there's maybe some

1220
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: conflict with the coach, and obviously Jyalen Brunson calls the

1221
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: players only meeting like it seems to have worked, Like, yeah, whatever,

1222
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Jyleen Brunson said, whoever talked in that meeting clicked a

1223
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: little bit. We're like enough of this, Like, oh, what

1224
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: are we run in all Mike Brown's defense, Like it's

1225
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: like it's on us here and we need to play

1226
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: hard to go along with our talent. So it was

1227
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: just cool here him talk like that after a really

1228
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: good game, and he was like he was sort of

1229
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: admitting or taking accountability.

1230
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it wasn't being a good teammate.

1231
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they're rolling right now and we'll see if

1232
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: they keep it going.

1233
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: Other teammates are fighting, as you said, Brunson, playing through illness, heart,

1234
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: playing through an injury.

1235
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's another part. Hard is back, like playing.

1236
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: I know they were losing a little bit when he

1237
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: first came back, but he's been back and all these

1238
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: and he's like he's doing the finger guns at the

1239
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Raptors bench. Garrett Temple threw a towel out of because

1240
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: he apologize after. But that's when they were That was

1241
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: the when the game was over. Basically at the end

1242
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: there all right, next one here, According to mark Stein.

1243
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Pelicans have set a high asking price

1244
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: for Trey Murphy the Third and Herb Jones in trade talks.

1245
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: The Pels are reportedly seeking a Desmond Baine like package

1246
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: in return. So we're talking here multiple future first round

1247
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: picks and any sort of deal in addition to matching salary.

1248
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: So true or false tasks, Trey Murphy the Third and

1249
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Herb Jones are worth a Desmond bane type of trade package.

1250
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: I think it's true ish for Trey Murphy specifically. I

1251
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: think Trey Murphy is just an incredible player, So specifically him,

1252
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: he's a modern NBA player. He's so good, he's having

1253
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: a really good season. Herb Jones very good defensive player,

1254
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: but he's not on the level of Trey Murphy. So

1255
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: there's there's that two separate things at the same time.

1256
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: I think the New Orleans Pelicans and what the Benson

1257
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 2: family did by hiring Joe Dumars to start this season

1258
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: is their idea of this team is to try and

1259
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: grow it internally, and so I don't see those guys moving.

1260
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: I did you know, a few weeks ago before Jimmy

1261
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: Butler got hurt, I thought the Warriors good sneak in

1262
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: and grab Trey Murphy if they continue to play incredibly

1263
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: poorly in New Orleans. But they're playing better, and I

1264
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: just think it's one of those organizations that you don't

1265
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: even need to trade everybody. You might as well just

1266
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: floor a decent basketball team and you have your fans

1267
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: at least have something to be excited about. And I

1268
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to trade these guys. I don't

1269
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: think either one just they got something going for them.

1270
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: You know, they won in Memphis, Okay, not a huge deal,

1271
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: but they beat the Spurs. They played a good game

1272
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: against Okay. See, I don't see the deal happening.

1273
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: I think this is false because I don't even think

1274
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: Desmond Maine has been worth a Desmond Main like package.

1275
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: They the Grizzlies got back KCP contracts to match and

1276
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: four first round picks. I don't think we're going to

1277
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: see that kind of a return for a trade unless

1278
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: it's a Yannis level player. At this point, rookies are

1279
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: too valuable. Draft picks are too valuable right now from

1280
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: a cheap contract standpoint and from a team building standpoint.

1281
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: Being able to have first round picks so you can

1282
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: get involved in a chase for a superstar. So when

1283
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: I look at these two players, I think, like Herb

1284
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: Jones could maybe get one first round pick back. Maybe

1285
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: maybe guys thought shot thirty percent from three for this

1286
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: season and last season, had a couple of years at

1287
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: the start of his career when he was knocking him down.

1288
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: Which is it, are you a good shooter or not?

1289
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: We shall see, but I wouldn't trade more than a

1290
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 3: first round pick plus the contract to match for him.

1291
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: Trey Murphy, maybe he's worth true two first round picks

1292
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: since he's still on the younger side, can fill it up.

1293
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: He's an OK defender. I think he could be a

1294
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 3: more motivated defender if he plays for a team that

1295
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 3: has actual aspirations. But I do think that the Pelicans

1296
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: should be willing to trade both of these guys if

1297
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: the offers are good enough. I do like the fit

1298
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: of having wings that can play both ways alongside Queen.

1299
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 3: I'm still I don't know what to no about Jeremiah Fears.

1300
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to be like their

1301
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: long term starter there. He profiles to me as more

1302
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: like a Monte Ellis sixth man or guy you moved

1303
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: to really kickstart the next phase of your team. We

1304
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: shall see. Nonetheless, they've got a building block in Queen,

1305
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 3: a potential building block in Fear, so you can see

1306
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: wings making sense around them. But the Pelicans need to

1307
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: get some assets back. So if somebody's gonna offer two

1308
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 3: first round picks for either of these guys, they should

1309
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: take it.

1310
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was funny Herb Jones is included

1311
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: in this. It really should just be Trae Murphy the third.

1312
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: You're talking about a Desmond being like trade package. Yeah,

1313
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: I could squint, maybe see it. I think Trey's right.

1314
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: I think it's less and less likely teams are gonna

1315
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: do that. But yeah, multiple first round picks for a

1316
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: guy of his talent. Yeah, Herb Jones, No, I mean

1317
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: I think teams would love a Herb Jones and you

1318
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: can maybe get one, and they're gonna be a Desmond

1319
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: Bean type package for Herb Jones. They'll tell you that.

1320
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, Lakers have been linked to him for a

1321
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: long time as a defensive minded guy. You could put

1322
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: out on the but it wouldn't cost that much, so

1323
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: he could be moved. I think he could be moved.

1324
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: I think the Pelicans should try and keep trade Murphy

1325
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: the third unless they're bowled over by some sort of

1326
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: trade package from somebody which has multiple picks.

1327
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're gonna have some fun in the summertime.

1328
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: I think the trade coverage in the summertime will have

1329
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: increased just period. It's good for NBA coverage for people

1330
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: talking about it because there's just more likely that it

1331
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: will happen then, and I think the Pelicans may change

1332
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: their direction then rather than right here right now.

1333
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Final one Celtics forward Jason Tatum told ESPN on Wednesday

1334
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: that he hasn't made a decision about whether he will

1335
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: return from a torn achilles ten in the season because

1336
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: he quote wants to get it right the first time,

1337
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: So it's just a lot to think about. Earlier in

1338
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: the day, Chris Haynes reported that Tatum was reevaluating this

1339
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 1: situation and considering sitting out the full season. Ture or false,

1340
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: Tatum will not play this season, Tray Kirby, and your

1341
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: bold prediction of him hitting a game winner in the

1342
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: playoffs will not come true.

1343
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm saying false, which means I think he's going

1344
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: to come back.

1345
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: YEP.

1346
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: I would have said one hundred percent. I think he's

1347
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: coming back. After they had him practice in front of

1348
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: reporters for an hour, I was like, you don't do

1349
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: that unless he's planning on coming back. But now we've

1350
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: got Chris Haynes reporting that the situation has changed. Chris

1351
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: also said Jason Tatum told him personally, I am coming

1352
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: back this season, but apparently something is different now. So

1353
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: does that mean he's had any sort of a setback

1354
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: or is it just like he's a little nervous about

1355
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 3: reintegrating with a team that's kind of had a surprising

1356
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: season and at least as formulated, seems like they have

1357
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: a chance in the Eastern Conference even without Tatum. Fepian said,

1358
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 3: I still think he's coming back. Okay, Yeah, you don't

1359
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: set your mind on a goal like this and then

1360
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: say no at the very last second.

1361
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a one to eighty. It feels extremely different.

1362
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: I watched the clip of Chris Haynes getting the report.

1363
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: He was literally looking at his phone and did it

1364
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: compute in his head? Do I actually say this? Because

1365
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: it's very different than what I said, And so if

1366
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: he's saying it, I'm buying it. It feels legitimate. If

1367
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: he's going to come out and say that somebody's not

1368
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: going to play the rest of the year. Here in January,

1369
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: it's still somewhat early. Yeah, you know, it's not anywhere

1370
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: a turn date. Yeah, literally, you know, two and a

1371
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: half months of regular season, so he could not want

1372
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: to play now for a month. And that's why it's

1373
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: it's kind of still up in the air, and it's

1374
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: hard to say if it's true or false. But if

1375
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: he's going to report it, I'm buying it.

1376
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Tatum is in by all accounts, has been increasing,

1377
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: like his workload of late here and like you said,

1378
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: this full workout in front of reporters. I guess I

1379
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: was in Detroit last week. I think you can be

1380
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: physically close to a comeback, but maybe mentally not there.

1381
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: In addition, Tatum may want to come back. Tatum says

1382
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: he wants to play with the Celtics, might be like,

1383
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: hold on, our doctors, think let's get this right the

1384
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: first time and let's not rush anything. And maybe that

1385
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: does mean give you the rest of the season and

1386
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: another off season to really, you know, build that leg

1387
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: back up to full health. So yeah, I mean, this

1388
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: is a tough question to answer. It Like the truth

1389
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: all was like it, it's like, who knows. I sort

1390
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: of think he will too. Maybe he shouldn't. I mean,

1391
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: then that's all depends on what happens when he comes back. Yes,

1392
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: he comes back when you're injest it, Oh my god,

1393
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be like, well you shouldn't have if he

1394
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: comes back and helps him make another playoff run. And

1395
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, perfect, well time, you know. So.

1396
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 3: I did think it was interesting Jalen Brown's little interview

1397
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: where he's like, you see what I've been sacrificing. I

1398
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: could have been doing this for years and we haven't

1399
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: fallen off at all. Kind of was like, you're throwing shots.

1400
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: That was strange to me. Yeah, he would say that, though.

1401
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he should be talking himself up. He's having

1402
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 3: a great season and the Celtics.

1403
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: Are still good.

1404
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: M hm.

1405
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: They lost last night, the crushed at Revenge after the

1406
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: Celtics crushed the Hawks.

1407
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: And maybe it was the comment Dalen Brown did not

1408
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: look good out there last night.

1409
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: Well, let's show those other games from last night. The

1410
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: scores a bunch of basketball. Do you have any other

1411
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: takeaways from some of these games? Anyone you want to touch.

1412
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 3: On oh Mussa diabalte Oh yeah, huge game. Eighteen points,

1413
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: nineteen rebounds, seven offensive rebounds, and he got his three pointer.

1414
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: We talked about, did he hit a three pointer in

1415
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: their previous game? No, he stepped on the line. Yeah,

1416
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: they made this one count from the left corner and

1417
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: then boom boo boo boo boo boom. Grizzlies though four

1418
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: straight losses, and I will say Joggin Jackson Junior is

1419
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: checked out. This guy is ready for the season to

1420
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 3: be over. And it basically is. I think for the

1421
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 3: Grizzlies three and a half games out of the tenth

1422
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: seed right now, and they are now behind the Dallas

1423
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: Mavericks in the Western Conference as well, so down into twelve.

1424
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: When I see all the injuries that they've had this season,

1425
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: I know we've mentioned it multiple times, but I still

1426
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: am overwhelmed by the Zach Edy, the Tijerome, the Skytie

1427
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: Pippen Jr. And now the the UCL elbow injury of Jomran.

1428
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean that is tough. Literally, that's a third of

1429
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: your rotations more even yeah he was, wasn't he well?

1430
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah he played last night.

1431
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, not last night, I mean last night but I

1432
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: thought he was out earlier.

1433
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a lot of guys hurt. Yeah, so

1434
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: that's a key question going into the last seven days

1435
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: before the trade deadline. Does that, combined with Jaron Jackson

1436
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: Junior's future in Memphis, does that expedite their trade deals

1437
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: for jo Ran, especially just to keep job Jared Jackson

1438
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: Junior content with that long term deal that he's side

1439
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: in Memphis, just to keep him happy. Yeah, that was

1440
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: odd to see that he wasn't happy. I am interested

1441
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: in the Pacers. I know they it's the Pacers and

1442
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 2: they're twelve and thirty six. But the way they closed out,

1443
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: combined with some rumors, I mean, I shouldn't say rumors,

1444
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: some talk like the way they closed out with their

1445
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: main guys Nem Hart Sakham, Nie Smith those that's their

1446
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: guys that were incredible last year in the playoffs, combined

1447
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: with Tyrese Haliburn is back playing three on three, four

1448
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: on four. Now, you know he told Lebron that I

1449
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: got burned by Benedict Mathern in practice I was. I

1450
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: said come at me, man, and he literally flew by me.

1451
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: He was at the ram. Well, I'm still at the

1452
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: three point life. So maybe he's not ready. But that's

1453
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: a team that I don't know. I'll just never count

1454
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: them out. I just won't. I still think I saw,

1455
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: I still think.

1456
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on hold.

1457
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: They've got twelve wins and three are against Terry's Haliburn

1458
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 3: is not retorting this year.

1459
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it. No, it doesn't seem like it.

1460
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: It does not. Okay, but he's he's playing, he's playing.

1461
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, eventually, you got to get your health going.

1462
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: I get that, but like that malpractice, like the whole

1463
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: the Celtics, you go, wow, there's maybe an opening Tatum

1464
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: maybe pushes us over the edge. But they're not even

1465
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: making the playoffs.

1466
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: The Hornets seem like the team that can go steal

1467
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: in Eastern Conference playing spot.

1468
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: That's for sure. Oh yeah, they look great. I'll do

1469
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: you one better. Hornets might win the title. Guys, which

1470
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: the championship? You guys brought it up? Brandon Miller twenty

1471
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: six points, diabate, awesome. They topped their victory total from

1472
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: all A last season with that win over the Grizzlies.

1473
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: That's cool. But here's the real stat. The Hornets have

1474
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: won six road games by fifteen plus points in January,

1475
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: and they tied two teams for the most in a

1476
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: month to do that, the two thousand and one, two

1477
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 1: thousand and two Lakers with Shaq and Kobe, the twenty

1478
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: eleven twenty twelve Miami Heat with the Big three of Lebron,

1479
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: Wade and Bosh. They went on to win titles. Why not.

1480
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: The Hornets got to make the playoffs two win the championship.

1481
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: But they are cooking. They what a crazy stat. Yeah,

1482
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: they are just dominating on the road right now in

1483
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: the month of January, and with this new found starting

1484
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: lineup or what now in ten and one?

1485
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: I think so?

1486
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the center, they swing a Yannis trade, they

1487
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 3: got a chance. Here you go, there you go, all right,

1488
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: San Antonio versus Houston. Yah, it's pretty interesting. It was

1489
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: a close game. And then in the second half Mitch

1490
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 3: Johnson put wembyond a men Thompson and completely flipped the game.

1491
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 3: Houston had twenty eight first half points in the paint.

1492
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 3: They only had twenty in the second half. Now, the

1493
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 3: interesting thing is that twelve of those twenty points in

1494
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 3: the paint went to men Thompson, and I thought he

1495
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 3: was still a negative for the rockets. On the offensive end,

1496
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: Houston had twelve turnovers. San Antonio had six blocks, eighteen

1497
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 3: stocks just in the second half for San Antonio. And

1498
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: it's just because there was so much congestion in the lane.

1499
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: This is the farthest off I've ever seen anybody play

1500
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 3: off of a perimeter player. Amn Thompson is bringing up

1501
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: the ball, he's at half court and Wenby is at

1502
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: like the charge circle y basically, and he got a

1503
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 3: seven foot five guy just hanging out there. There's no

1504
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: way your offense can get going. I think they Houston

1505
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: went like one of six from three point land in

1506
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: the second half, like they couldn't even get shots up

1507
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: because Amen is such a zero offensively and he scored

1508
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 3: twenty five points. They are just not using this guy

1509
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: in the right way. He is not a point guard

1510
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 3: for this team. This is why they need to go

1511
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: after a ball handler. They should have Reed Shepherd handling

1512
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 3: the ball more often, just to give a little bit

1513
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: of space for Shengoon, who's not shooting the ball well

1514
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: at all this season from the perimeter and prefers to

1515
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: play inside. Same with Kevin Durant, like he's gonna get

1516
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: his points. He's gonna get his buckets, but his shots

1517
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: have been tough as well. So I thought that was

1518
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 3: pretty eye opening because that's the way every team will

1519
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 3: defend the Rockets in the playoffs. We also found out

1520
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: Steven Adams going to be out for the season. That's

1521
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: a major loss for Houston. But yeah, that was kind

1522
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: of eye opening to me to see how far off

1523
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: the Spurs were playing a men and just being like, hey, man,

1524
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: if you get an open dunk in the lane, that's

1525
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 3: fine because we're taking away literally everything else and it

1526
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 3: totally worked.

1527
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit more about that game.

1528
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: We'll do it through will Boy because we got will

1529
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: Boy going to Wemby, but this one sponsored Little Boy

1530
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: sponsored by Jordan Jordmore forty four says, congrats on twenty years.

1531
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for the classic after classic after classic. It has

1532
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: met so much to us. All you're the best lunch

1533
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: on me. Hey, that's what Jordan said. Yeah, in sponsoring

1534
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: wow Boy, So webin Yama gets the Wow Boy produced

1535
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: game highs a twenty eight points sixteen rebounds to lead

1536
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: the Spurs to that victory. Shot eight to fifteen from

1537
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: the floor, twelve to fifteen at the line, so a

1538
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: lot of free throws for Wemby. Threw down that huge

1539
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: reverse dunk that was cool. Oh my god, this guy

1540
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: he blocked a bunch of shots, had five blocks. One

1541
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 1: of them was an Aman Thompson jumper, but he was

1542
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: like a mile away from and he's always put his

1543
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: arm up, blocked it. Three assists, two steals. But yeah,

1544
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: I loved I loved just his competitive spirit man, Like

1545
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: they lost to the Rockets recently and they're like, not again,

1546
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna come, and they were down. It looked like

1547
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: the Rockets might get this one. But awesome second half good,

1548
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 1: Like you said, coaching change there from the Spurs and

1549
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: how they played them and they sort of rolled or

1550
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: ran away with his victory.

1551
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were way more physical than they were eight

1552
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: days prior. They were willing to fight god.

1553
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: And that was the Wemby game where he was like

1554
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: five of twenty one. I was the bad game.

1555
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was taking plenty of jumpers in that

1556
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: game though. The game after Kevin Durant said, yeah, he's

1557
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: got to work on his jumper.

1558
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

1559
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Wemby took that personally. In this game,

1560
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: far fewer jumpers, you know. It was about fifty to

1561
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 2: fifty in this one rather than like eighty.

1562
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: Fifteen free throw at times, tells you he's being much money.

1563
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: He was going, he was going hard, he was fighting,

1564
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: he was scrapping. It's a good photo of him looking

1565
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: very muscular that he chose for the who boy.

1566
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: His shoulders looked, she looks he almost doesn't look like himself. Yeah.

1567
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: His face yeah, well he's exhaling.

1568
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 2: Looks like a big man.

1569
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: Now he looks like more like Tim Duncan there aleunch

1570
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 1: over Yeah.

1571
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the position. It gets it for sure.

1572
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: Now the Rockets don't have Steven Adams, as we said,

1573
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 2: he's out, they're still able to fight on the offensive, Glasgows.

1574
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: That's what im Udoka's teams do. They got plenty of

1575
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: second chance points. But that's how teams are going to

1576
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: play men Thompson. They're gonna give him space, Yeah they are.

1577
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: So they have to make a deal. It seems like

1578
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: what are they gonna do? But they have to get this.

1579
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, even if.

1580
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: They don't make a deal or know that Van Vliet

1581
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: is returning, like which one do they know?

1582
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: Or more trust than reed Shepherd? I mean that has

1583
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 2: to be something.

1584
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: Well, that game lost me another pick them because I

1585
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: had the rockets and they lost and I technically can't

1586
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: come back. I can't even tie it. Now there's uh

1587
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: for us. There's two nights here in the month because

1588
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: of tonight and would be tomorrow, and I'm down three.

1589
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: You guys finished tie eleven and eight. A'm eight and eleven.

1590
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: I started this month eight and three. I lost eight

1591
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: straight games.

1592
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Wow, WHOA, I was cooking.

1593
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: This is insane, and like it wasn't it was like

1594
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: they felt right.

1595
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's just so insane. So you did think

1596
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: you were picking the right one.

1597
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: Honestly, most of them I did. And you know there's

1598
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: a couple of close calls, not covers, but.

1599
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: A lot of them got us yesterday.

1600
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: Yes that's right, that's right. Pistons didn't beat the Nuggets.

1601
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: Fine enough, But anyway, I got to do another payoffs.

1602
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 1: So if you got an idea, let me know.

1603
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 3: I just know they sent them in.

1604
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm not happy be about this one, because you know,

1605
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm not happy about being eight three and then suddenly

1606
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: losing eight straight to finish eight and eleven. And you

1607
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: guys have good ones too. We had a nice little

1608
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: run going. We had a nice little battle, but ends

1609
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: with like a wet far. So what's the what's the

1610
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse for this? For this payoff? Now

1611
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 1: you're talking about this football, this chocolate football.

1612
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: It's a big football.

1613
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: It's a big football. I'd say it's it's over a

1614
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: pound of chocolate that you would have to eat, Like

1615
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: is that a lot? I don't know. I mean I

1616
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: saw the weight. I saw the weight on it. I

1617
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 2: think it's like maybe a closer to pound and a

1618
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 2: half of doing the ounce calculation.

1619
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: You want to do another eating challenge, it's up to Yeah,

1620
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: it's up to bo JD.

1621
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 2: Really, I guess. I mean it is side to football.

1622
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: It's football time.

1623
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: You want to go to play it against sports, get

1624
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 3: a full set of football pads and take some hits.

1625
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather do that, but yeah, yeah against against who? Yeah,

1626
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: an actual high school team.

1627
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. At the Celtics game yesterday, they kept showing guys

1628
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: from the Pats that are going to the Super Bowl

1629
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: that are in the stance like they are. One was

1630
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. You just reminded me very large man.

1631
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd be willing to put my

1632
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: body up against it, I would I would, okay, next

1633
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: pick and payoff, just go head to head with an

1634
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: offensive lineman.

1635
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 3: It would be pretty funny, actually to say.

1636
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: I'd love to be able to know if, like, could

1637
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: I get around them? I mean, you got speed, but

1638
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: they're also incredibly fast.

1639
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: For this, I don't know.

1640
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: It's like American gladiators, like American gladiators. Do you know

1641
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 3: any ex linemen the linemen around here? No guy that

1642
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: works for the Falcons. Maybe you can get they're big hogs.

1643
01:16:59,680 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 2: The past.

1644
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: All right, let us know suggestions. We're open to any

1645
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: and all pick and payoffs because I gotta hoe you

1646
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: guys one here for January.

1647
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: I know our I know somehow I know our man, Jim,

1648
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: don't call me James Miller. He knows some big lines.

1649
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: He knows a big lineman.

1650
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know why, but he's

1651
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: got ties. Probably does he can get somebody in here

1652
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 2: to ruin our studio.

1653
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear everybody's thoughts on the latest Yannest

1654
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: trade rumors. Is he being dealt before the deadline? Which

1655
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 1: team has the most attractive package? Do you think this

1656
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: bleeds into the summer? Then who's the team that's gonna

1657
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: make the deal, or maybe you're crazy and he's going

1658
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: to stay there forever. Hearing a lot of that anymore, Hey,

1659
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: you can change his mind for sure. It's like, no,

1660
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: I like it here, Milwaukee. Yeah, he is just a human,

1661
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: that's right. Uh So let us know in the comments.

1662
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with the Drop podcast, Worst of

1663
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: the Week nominees and a whole lot more fun. So

1664
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: we'll hope to see you then. Till then, Clipper bros.

1665
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1666
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1667
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember we're constantly evaluating who's

1668
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: got the best package. I mean, my team's got the

1669
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: best package.

1670
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Praise the Day, people,