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Speaker 2: Stop me if you've heard this one before. Files brings

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Speaker 2: us the Dallas Cowboys who committed, in my opinion, organizational

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Speaker 2: malpractice yesterday. And it's not just because they traded away

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons. It's how they traded him away. You get

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Speaker 2: two first round picks, you get a former Pro Bowl

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Speaker 2: admitted that the team had been considering moving Parsons as

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Speaker 2: early as the beginning of the offseason, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's where the misstep occurred. If you know you're open

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Speaker 2: to dealing a twenty six year old pass rusher, maybe

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Speaker 2: the best defensive player in the game. Why wait until

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Speaker 2: a week before the start of the season. If you're

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Speaker 2: in March leading up to the draft, you know everybody's

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Speaker 2: got these draft picks. Maybe we could do something here

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Speaker 2: cap room teams can maybe explore trade with Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to trade him, okay, then trade him

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Speaker 2: back in March or April. If the sticker shock was

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Speaker 2: there and you didn't want to pay him that you

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Speaker 2: thought you had a handshake agreement, which is illegal in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, illegal and Jerry thought, okay, we've agreed on

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Speaker 2: a deal that's just over forty million dollars forty point five. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you know these other defensive players who are a

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Speaker 2: similar stature to Micah Parsons, TJ. Watt and Miles Garon,

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby, maybe you know what the price is going

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Speaker 2: to be, and you know what's going on. You draft

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Speaker 2: a guy, you want him to be great. You want

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Speaker 2: him to be into that second contract they were going

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Speaker 2: to do that. He has been great. He's you know,

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Speaker 2: his trajectory is Hall of Fame, and I kept thinking, okay,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that Jerry would trade him. And then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I did a little deeper dive,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I had conversations that were off the record,

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Speaker 2: and I have to be true to those two conversations.

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Speaker 2: But as soon as I got off the you know,

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Speaker 2: I go, I got information. I can't really do anything

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Speaker 2: with this. I got to be fair, but it gave

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Speaker 2: had been going on. And was Michah Parsons truly liked

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Speaker 2: fingerprints are on this, Like there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: but at least I was trying to find out. But

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Speaker 2: I was sworn, you know, this is off the record.

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Speaker 2: This you know, like every four sentences, this is off

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Speaker 2: Because Jerry, I thought, would say I got a quarterback

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Speaker 2: who's been banged up the last two years. But you

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Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, it's gonna hurt. You overpaid for Dak.

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Speaker 2: But somehow through all of this, Jerry Jones yesterday with

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Speaker 4: This gives us a better chance to be a better

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Speaker 4: since Michael's been here. Not any negative on Michaeh, but

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Speaker 4: we're trying to get better. We're trying to stop the

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're not better now, not today, and you have flexibility.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Clark is a good defensive tackle, but his best

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Speaker 2: years are behind him. He went to two Pro Bowls. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got to stop the run. You know, you got

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Speaker 2: us through the air. Michael Parsons is a game changer.

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Speaker 2: He wrecks games. The only way you would be better

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Speaker 2: is if Michael Parsons doesn't play for Green Bay, he's

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Speaker 2: banged up or doesn't play well. What are the odds

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Speaker 2: to that contract going to underproduce. This reminds me of

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Speaker 2: the Khalil Mackdal when the Bears acquired him. The Raiders

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Speaker 2: got more from the Bears, then the Cowboys got, you know,

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Speaker 2: for Michaeh Parsons from Green Back you got to first

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Speaker 2: And I've just I kept thinking you got to get more.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was three first round picks. Do you

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Speaker 2: It's a safety. Seattle gave up and see, you know,

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Speaker 2: Seattle's got a great front office. They gave up three

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Speaker 2: first round picks for Jamal Adams. You gotta get more,

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Speaker 2: you gotta shop him, and you didn't do that. But

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Speaker 2: is Jerry's ego in the way here. You know, everybody

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Speaker 2: wants to make the herschel Walker analogy.

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Speaker 3: It's not. I mean, Jimmy Johnson was running the show.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson orchestrated the value they were going to get

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Speaker 2: for herschel Walker, and it changed the franchise. This isn't

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Speaker 2: changing the franchise because if I look at the average

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Speaker 2: Bowl contender. And the odds Packers were plus two thousand

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Speaker 2: They were plus eleven hundred to win the NFC, now

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. They're now plus seven thousand. They were plus

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Speaker 2: twenty two hundred to win the NFC. The're now plus

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Speaker 2: three thousand. You're not better. Now, let's see what you

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Speaker 2: do with the draft picks. But you know, with the

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Speaker 2: clock ticking, Jerry wanting to win another Super Bowl, Dak's

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Speaker 2: not getting any younger, thirty two, been banged up, you're

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Speaker 2: paying him sixty million dollars. I just didn't understand it. Now,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to both sides, you know, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: out for the Packers, tell me how this does work

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Speaker 2: out for the Cows because that's what this is all about.

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Speaker 2: And I just didn't understand how Jerry put himself in

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Speaker 2: and I was wondering, was I more surprised that Luca

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Speaker 2: got traded to the Lakers or Micah Parsons got traded

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Speaker 2: to the Packers, and neither of these teams shop their stars.

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Speaker 2: Dallas talked to the Lakers, Dallas talked to the Packers.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure other teams got in. Maybe I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: you keep him in the NFC, A team you're going

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Speaker 2: to play in a month, a really good team. This

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Speaker 2: is where you trade him to Carolina at Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: This is why I'll never be a billionaire. You know,

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Speaker 2: this is another reason why I won't be a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: I can't think like Jerry does. Hey, great businessman, Okay,

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Speaker 2: great businessman. You're the one who extended Dak. You brought

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Speaker 2: Zeke back again, you didn't get the true value for Michael.

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Speaker 2: I mean that just recent here, waited on cd LEM.

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Speaker 2: It goes back to what we've said for months. Now,

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Speaker 2: then act on it. Because you knew if we get

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Speaker 2: which is what Green Bay paid. Now it's you know,

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Speaker 2: we saved seven million this year, and then seven million

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Speaker 2: the following year and seven million. So this is a big,

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Speaker 2: big whiff. And we said it from the beginning right now,

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Speaker 2: sign him. Being indecisive in sports is death, and they

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Speaker 2: were indecisive. If you thought you were going to keep him,

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Speaker 2: then sign him up. I don't know how well liked

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Speaker 2: he was. I think he certainly had a lot to say,

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Speaker 2: and I wonder Stephen Jones's role in this. You know,

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Speaker 2: Jerry's going to be given this team to his son

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Speaker 2: at some point, and I wonder if Stephen Jones was

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Speaker 2: maybe the architect. It's easy to, you know, blame Jerry.

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Speaker 2: I can blame Jerry for the previous months. But you

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Speaker 2: had to get to a point where and there's no

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Speaker 2: board of directors. Everybody you know who's on the masthead

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Speaker 2: and his name is Jones, Like you just have a

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Speaker 2: family outing and then you have to discuss, all right.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: They changed tradition here and Jerry with his handshake nonsense.

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Speaker 2: You know about the team and it was a handshake agreement, okay,

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Speaker 2: but you can't have handshake agreements that are binding with

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Speaker 2: a player and you don't allow to have an agent

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Speaker 3: Mind boggling. Uh what else did Jerry have to say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, Oh, here he is. There's Jerry talking

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Speaker 4: When I offered Micah the contract that I offered him

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Speaker 4: back in April. He flew in from out of the country,

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Speaker 4: wanted to come right in. I said, no, We'll get

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Speaker 4: your night's sleep and come on in the next day.

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Speaker 4: Get your next day. He wanted to come right in.

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Speaker 4: We offered him a contract to come play for the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys, and it was a good one. Okay, now,

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Speaker 4: it was more guaranteed than what I've been reported that

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Speaker 4: was here now, But my point is, without getting into detail,

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Speaker 4: that was a very genuine negotiation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, get into detail, Jerry, feel free now you can

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Speaker 2: let us behind the curtain here. I think if you

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Speaker 3: There are certain contracts where you go do it. Oh man,

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Speaker 2: If you're buying what buy value by quality and you've

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Speaker 2: and you know what it'll be. It'll be a glimmer

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Speaker 5: Good luck.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Clark better be great, Dak better be great. CD

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Speaker 2: With yesterday's news happening in the NFL, did that change

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Speaker 5: A little bit?

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Speaker 2: Help me understand, Let's start with Dallas. You're shaking your

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Speaker 5: Because Dan, none of it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: It was a good.

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Speaker 8: This wasn't the sort of deal that would completely handicap

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Speaker 2: I just didn't understand the lack of leverage there that

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Speaker 8: his career. It's his first year full time now as

435
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Speaker 8: a starter, so there's gonna be a mistakes made, and

436
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 8: it's kind of having that short term memory, taking a

437
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 8: deep breath, weathering those first few punches that Ohio State's

438
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 8: gonna have, and then settling in. And that's sometimes easier

439
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 8: said than done. Sometimes it takes you a half of football.

440
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 8: Sometimes it takes you know, a couple of positive plays

441
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 8: or that first big throw, that first completion. It's almost

442
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 8: like you know, playing basketball. You know, once you kind

443
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 8: of break the seal, you're able to make a bucket,

444
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 8: then it feels like you give a little more confident,

445
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 8: like everything's gonna start going in. So I'm sure Steve Sarkisian,

446
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 8: because he's a mastermind at devising plays, is gonna come

447
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 8: up with a few screens just to get him started,

448
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 8: and just also to try to tire out the hot

449
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Speaker 8: State pass rush.

450
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Speaker 2: Social media is going to have a field day this

451
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Speaker 2: After this game, one way or another, it's either Arch

452
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: is gonna win the Heisman or Arch is not gonna

453
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Speaker 2: win the High or Texas is not a great team,

454
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: or Texas looks dominating, Ohio State's overrated, or they're not

455
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: going to repeat.

456
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Speaker 3: We tend to do that.

457
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Speaker 2: You know that quick reaction referendum coming up on Monday.

458
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Speaker 2: What do you think the headline is going to be

459
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Speaker 2: after this game?

460
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Speaker 5: Well, I see it being more of a tight, low

461
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 5: scoring game.

462
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Speaker 8: So I don't know that we're going to see really

463
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Speaker 8: either side coming away with like like a blossoming report

464
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Speaker 8: on either quarterback or either offense for that matter. I

465
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 8: think it's gonna be more of a defensive battle. Typically

466
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 8: the defense is always ahead of the offense anyway, this

467
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 8: time of year. It's impart the quarterbacks in both these

468
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Speaker 8: games are inexperienced.

469
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Speaker 5: You know, Sam's his first start of his career.

470
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Speaker 8: But it's also the offensive line we tend to forget

471
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 8: like that group takes a while to gel and in

472
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 8: particular for Texas, they got a bunch of new starters.

473
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 8: Ohio State has a bunch of guys who play but

474
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 8: have been in a full time starting role. But you

475
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 8: get in that environment again with the crowd, noise, everything else,

476
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 8: and just your communication, how you pass off the stunts

477
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 8: and games. So I think it's gonna be more of

478
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 8: a low scoring, defensive battle, and I think we're gonna

479
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 8: come away with it. Looking at both these two teams

480
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Speaker 8: as two of the top teams in college football and

481
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Speaker 8: probably two teams that we want to see how they

482
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Speaker 8: progress and what they're going to look like at the

483
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Speaker 8: end of the season, because they may very well be

484
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Speaker 8: squaring it off for a national championship.

485
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Speaker 5: But it's all said done.

486
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Speaker 2: What is it like when you're out there on the road.

487
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Speaker 2: Let's say you're at the Big House. Let's say there's

488
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Speaker 2: eighty ninety one hundred thousand people there. What's that feeling

489
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: like when you first go on the field and you

490
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: know everybody in the building hate you?

491
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Speaker 3: It's awesome in it?

492
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's the best thing in the world.

493
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Speaker 8: Like, there is no greater feeling than walking in as

494
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Speaker 8: the enemy. And probably the most powerful thing that you

495
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 8: can do in that situation is there silence. And so

496
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 8: when you create those big plays when you throw a

497
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 8: touchdown pass. But I'll never forget going to Michigan in

498
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 8: five and we went in with a no huddle offense

499
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 8: because Charlie West, our coach, was like, we don't even

500
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Speaker 8: want to give the crowd the opportunity to any impacts.

501
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 8: And I think our first drive we drove right down

502
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 8: the field, scored and it kind of took the win

503
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 8: out of everyone and we kind of just controlled the

504
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 8: game from there. And I remember thinking back, like walking

505
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Speaker 8: out of that place here one hundred thousand plus in

506
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Speaker 8: the big house, quiet, nothing better than that, Like, that's

507
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 8: one of the most powerful things you can do as

508
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Speaker 8: a quarterback. When you're a part of a team that

509
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Speaker 8: wins a game on the road in a big environment

510
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 8: like that and you just hear silence, It's awesome.

511
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Speaker 2: Brady is also part of a Two Pros and a

512
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Speaker 2: Cup of Joe, the radio program that precedes hours on

513
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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of our affiliates. I was

514
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: listening the other day and you were talking about rookie

515
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks or second year quarterbacks and they will block out

516
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: one side of the field when they go back to pass,

517
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: they're already turned. And you know, you were talking about

518
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: the windows you have. You everybody's open, but in the

519
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: Pros that are only open for you know, a split second.

520
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: You were kind of given a referendum on why these

521
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: quarterbacks struggle. So if you can recall what you were saying,

522
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: you know, with Caleb Williams and you know some of

523
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: these other guys, why do they struggle when they first

524
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: come in.

525
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Speaker 8: So I think this is and it starts to me

526
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 8: at really a fundamental age of learning how to drop

527
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 8: back because so many offenses. I mean, I've got nephews now.

528
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 8: My sons are too young to play, but I've got

529
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 8: nephews now that are playing in junior high and even

530
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 8: you know, in like fourth grade, fifth grade, and they're

531
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 8: in shotgun already. I mean, they don't do a snap

532
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 8: from under center almost anywhere anymore. And the reason why

533
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 8: I think that's a bad place to start for quarterbacks

534
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 8: is everything under center is tied into a sense of

535
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 8: timing and rhythm. So your three step, five step, seven step,

536
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 8: even your play action pass fakes are all off of that.

537
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 5: And the reason why that's so important.

538
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 8: Is because you have a sense of timing for the

539
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 8: full work that your receivers are running too. And so

540
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 8: if your fullwork syncd up with their full work, the

541
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 8: time he kind of works out for it. And I

542
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 8: know it sounds like something small, but that shotguns the

543
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 8: amount of time it takes to get to you sitting

544
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 8: back in shotgun makes just a bit of difference that

545
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 8: it changes really the timing of the play. And so

546
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 8: for a lot of quarterbacks who are trained with playing

547
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 8: from under center, they naturally have that internal clock you

548
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 8: hear people talk about all the time for when they

549
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 8: drop back when they need to get rid of the football.

550
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 8: The other thing it teaches you to do, because you're

551
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 8: sitting right under center, is to get back from the

552
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage so you can see over those big

553
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 8: guys in front of you. And so whether it's your

554
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 8: three step, which no one does any more, five step,

555
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 8: or seven step, it teaches you how to set the

556
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 8: back of the pocket so you can see, but then

557
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 8: step back up into it because then that's what that

558
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 8: tackles our coach to do, is kind of push those

559
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 8: edge rushers out around you. So what happens is oftentimes

560
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 8: when you catch the football and the shotgun, it's really

561
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 8: hard to kind of be as disciplined with your footwork

562
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 8: because the ball takes a little bit longer to get there.

563
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 8: It depends on the center snap too, but oftentimes you're

564
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 8: almost reacting to then when that footwork of the wide receiver,

565
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 8: when things start to kind of come open. You do

566
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 8: your best your can to make that, you know, shotgun

567
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 8: snap in the same rhythm that you have on your center,

568
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 8: but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and.

569
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 5: So it hurts the timing of the play. It hurts

570
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 5: how you set the pocket of it.

571
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 8: But the thing I was pointing out was oftentimes quarterbacks

572
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 8: will catch the football and they find themselves getting the

573
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 8: back of the pocket and they never square up their shoulders.

574
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 8: And if you don't square up your shoulders, you're not

575
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Speaker 8: going to be forced to climb up in back into

576
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Speaker 8: the pocket and then maintain the ability to still throw

577
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 8: down the field and anyway, left, right, what have you.

578
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: Whether you're right hand or.

579
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Speaker 8: Left handed, Once you turn your hips and your shoulders

580
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 8: parallel to the line of scrimmage, you're really limiting where

581
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 8: you can throw the football downfield because physically it's difficult

582
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 8: to contort your body and throw all arm to the

583
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 8: right side, for example, if you're a right handed quarterback,

584
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 8: or the left side if you're a left handed quarterback,

585
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 8: and so and then you naturally when the way you

586
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 8: see the rush as you want to run left or right,

587
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 8: you don't want to step up into it. So It's

588
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 8: just something that I think has happened over the course

589
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 8: of I don't know, the past decade or so, where

590
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 8: so many quarterbacks now are growing up playing shotgun that

591
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 8: they don't have this natural sense for how to navigate

592
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 8: the pocket, and it takes drill work and it takes.

593
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Speaker 5: Time for these guys to learn how to do it.

594
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I saw that with Shador Sanders. When you're

595
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: in the gun, it feels like you're going to scramble

596
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: out instead of move up in the pocket. It's rare

597
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: when these young quarterbacks move up in the pocket. They're

598
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: used to escaping, I think, and Montana told me this

599
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: years ago. He said, I loved being under center because

600
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: it allowed me to watch everything unfold and I could

601
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: see everything in real time. I got back to the

602
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: pocket and I had a better sense of where I was,

603
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: and then I could move up in the pocket. And

604
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: it feels like these guys are already back there, and

605
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 2: then they're going to try to be an escape artist.

606
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: And that's what Shador's gotten in trouble with, Caleb's gotten

607
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: in trouble with, and I don't know how Cam is

608
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: going to do or Jackson Dart, but it feels like

609
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: they've all been taught kind of the same thing.

610
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Speaker 8: The best way I describe it is if you look

611
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 8: at boxers, for example, on how they navigate the ring.

612
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 8: It's very similar for the full work for a quarterback

613
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 8: because when you get back there, you're really setting up

614
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 8: because you're delivering that overhand right. So every movement you

615
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 8: make should still keep you in a position to be

616
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 8: able to make that overhand right.

617
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: Or that throw. I say overhand right in my case

618
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: is I'm right handed.

619
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Speaker 8: And so that's where if you watch a boxer, like

620
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 8: they never are facing each other really directly with their

621
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 8: shoulders parallel. You know, usually they're they're turned a little

622
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 8: bit so they can get torque and they can throw

623
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 8: that overhand right for the knockout points when they need to.

624
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: And so that's why I like I cross.

625
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 8: Trained with some boxing when I was younger, obviously because

626
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 8: I felt like it was it was great to keep

627
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 8: you in shape, but also it's very applicable for the

628
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 8: way you navigate and move through the pocket.

629
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: And you had to get kind of get used to that.

630
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 8: And so look again, it's something that you can work on,

631
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 8: you can drill out, but it does take some time

632
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 8: to kind of you know, I guess reinvent you know,

633
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 8: some of your your sense of timing and footwork within

634
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 8: the pocket, even from shotgun, but it just it takes

635
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 8: time and getting a lot of practice at it.

636
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Speaker 3: What do you expect when Notre Dame in Miami Sunday night?

637
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not sure what to expect from Miami. You know,

638
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 8: they've got so many new players. I think I counted

639
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 8: five new starters on defense. Corey Headerman's taken over as

640
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 8: their defensive coordinator because they really struggled defensively last year.

641
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 8: Carson Beck steps in his quarterback which looked two years

642
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 8: ago he was phenomenal. I really thought last year at

643
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 8: Georgia he would play well enough to put himself in

644
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 8: the position to be on top ten pick and it

645
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 8: just didn't work out that way, and he transfers, and

646
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 8: now you've got to learn a new system. You have

647
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 8: to develop chemistry with new pass catchers. That's not easy

648
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 8: to do. So knowing Mario Cristobal and he's got that

649
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 8: O line background, I think he doesn't mind making this

650
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 8: like a battle in the trenches. And I think Marcus

651
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 8: Raemans loves that because that plays right into Notre Dame's hand.

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Speaker 8: Their defense is going to be stout one of the

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Speaker 8: best in college football. We've got the best running back

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Speaker 8: in the country and Jeremiah Love and everyone, like a

655
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Speaker 8: lot of people forget Jenering Price.

656
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Speaker 5: Is a damn good back too.

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Speaker 8: You know, Little Williams too played as a freshman last

658
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Speaker 8: year with those two, so they're gonna be able to

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Speaker 8: run the football. I think this is a low scoring game,

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Speaker 8: and I think it's one. It's gonna be a battle,

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Speaker 8: and it's probably gonna come down to which team can

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Speaker 8: kind of limit their mistakes. And I think, honestly, CJ. Carr,

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Speaker 8: He's got all the talent ability in the world. You know,

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Speaker 8: he just has to make enough big throws and enough

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Speaker 8: conversions on third down to allow not to name to

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Speaker 8: take care of business, which I think they will do.

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Speaker 2: Who has more wins this year, the Patriots or North

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Speaker 2: Carolina Football.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny, like outside of Clemson the ACC, I

670
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Speaker 8: think UNC can make a pretty good case for making

671
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Speaker 8: a run at that next team to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 8: So I'll say they can probably get to nine. It's

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Speaker 8: gonna be close. I mean, look, I'm a huge Mike

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Speaker 8: vrabel Fan. I love Drake May. I love everything they've

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Speaker 8: done with that roster. I think they're gonna finish second

676
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Speaker 8: Division this year, so I think that'll met them somewhere

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Speaker 8: around nine to ten wins. So I'm actually gonna just

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Speaker 8: say I'm gonna go with the Patriots. I think they're

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Speaker 8: not ten win team. I think you un ce somewhere

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Speaker 8: that eight nine ballpark.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Safe travels to Columbus, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: As always, I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Hoping to get credential so I get in the stadium

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Speaker 5: like that's what I'm really.

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Speaker 3: Will you'll happen? Will you get booed there?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Well, I get booed. I don't know if I necessarily

689
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Speaker 5: will get booed. I don't know that. Uh there's other

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Speaker 5: people that get booed.

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Speaker 8: David, we do a lot of cheerity work with Ohiot

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Speaker 8: State were donating thousands a year to that school.

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Speaker 5: I hope they don't.

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Speaker 3: Uh linerd will get booed as.

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Speaker 8: He should, as he probably should now now Mark Ingram

696
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Speaker 8: will never get booed because Mark is like the people's champ.

697
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 8: Like Mark is, he is the party that like wherever

698
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 8: you need to go. You need to bring up the

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Speaker 8: vibes like Mark is the guy to do it, and

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Speaker 8: obviously coach won't.

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Speaker 5: I mean they love coach.

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Speaker 8: You know, Coach won the national championship, so he's in

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Speaker 8: good standing. I you know, there's some other folks that

704
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Speaker 8: can get dicey.

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Speaker 3: Is Dave Portnoy going to be there with you?

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Speaker 5: He will be in Columbus, yes, and on the show.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: As far as where he'll be, I can't divulge that information.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing he won't be in the stadium.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, you never know. I mean that would be.

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Speaker 8: One of the all time to be great. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know you saw the Michigan win last year. Maybe

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Speaker 8: he finds his way into the stadium. I can't say.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Brady, Brady Quinn And he'll be there with

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Speaker 2: Big Newton kick off as Ohio State host Texas also

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Speaker 8: Oh my God.

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Speaker 3: Of the day, My.

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Speaker 2: God, the play of the day.

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Speaker 10: Swung on hit deep rightfield head, there's history for Swarm.

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Speaker 10: It's his fourth home run of the night, as Kyle

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Speaker 10: Swarmer becomes the first Philly since Michael jack Smith to

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Speaker 10: hit four homers in a game.

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Speaker 2: That's courtesy of the Phillies Radio Network. He's done it again.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a great season. Fifty home runs,

732
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Speaker 2: not gonna win the MVP. I hope it's close. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to be, but I hope that he gets

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Speaker 2: some voting respect. You know, he's going to get a

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Speaker 2: lot of votes for second place there behind Shoheo Tani.

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Speaker 2: Shan Irving set to join us. Not sure if Shay,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh zooming in? Hi Shay, Hey Danny, how

742
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: you feeling today?

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 9: Didn't sleep?

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00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: How did you find out about this trade? And what

745
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: was the next five minutes like for you?

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Speaker 9: I was actually on a work call, and my phone

747
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 9: just start blowing up. And then I hung up the

748
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Speaker 9: phone on the work call. I just quit. I quit

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00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 9: logged out for the day.

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Speaker 3: Danny.

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 9: This is you know, I know it doesn't make sense.

752
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 9: Everybody knows it don't make sense. What really makes me

753
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 9: mad is that Jerry Jones thinks we're stupid. He thinks

754
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 9: we're dumb, and he thinks that he can sell this

755
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 9: concoction of why he did it and how he wants

756
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Speaker 9: to win now and trading your best player a.

757
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 10: Week before the opener is somehow good idea, and then

758
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 10: it was somehow let us win now.

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: This is the biggest crop, you know what.

760
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Speaker 9: And this is all his ego, Dannie, this is egomania

761
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 9: dot com.

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Speaker 3: You are eighty two years old.

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Speaker 9: You're gonna die, You're gonna die real soon, and you

764
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 9: ain't gonna have a ring.

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Speaker 3: This is what you get.

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Speaker 9: This is your actions. This is your sinful nature coming.

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Speaker 1: Home the roots.

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00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: Is there any upside.

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Speaker 5: For the cowboys?

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00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, they'll have cap space they ain't gonna use. This

771
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 9: is my favorite part. Jerry's telling us, Oh, you know,

772
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 9: Stepid and I were thinking about trading Dick in the

773
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 9: middle of spring. Oh yeah, that's why you restructure CD

774
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 9: and DAK. Really you're gonna treat Micah in the spring?

775
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 9: You all and a cheater?

776
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: And who was apathetic?

777
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 9: Danny? Now I'm on a mission. Now I'm crazy again.

778
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 9: My meds don't work anymore. I didn't sleep. I double

779
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 9: dosed my meds.

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Speaker 5: Last night, Danny.

781
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Speaker 3: I double dosed him.

782
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 9: The roommate told me to double dose him. I double

783
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 9: dosed him, and I woke up while the birds were singing,

784
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Speaker 9: I didn't sleep.

785
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Speaker 3: Are you more mad or sad?

786
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Speaker 9: Angry? Angry for Clift, Danny, angry the mendacity coming out

787
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 9: of Jerry Jones at that press conference. He lied to

788
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 9: us for seventeen minutes straight, pretending like, oh, the defensive

789
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 9: tackle who, by the way, thirty years old, getting worse,

790
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 9: contract getting more expensive. You get two first randers, gonna

791
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 9: be in the late picks, twenty five at all. This

792
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 9: is what you get. And if you were really thinking

793
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 9: about it, Danny, you put them on the shopping block

794
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 9: in March when teams have time to start moving around

795
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Speaker 9: their cap space. We all know this, and Jerry just

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00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 9: pretends you're gonna die. You're gonna die.

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00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: Do you still want to watch the game together on Thursday.

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Speaker 9: This is the worst part of my life. I have

799
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 9: to like I'm a six son of a gun. I

800
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Speaker 9: don't have a choice. Danny, I am the battered wife.

801
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 9: I am. I need a support group. I need a

802
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 9: sober companion. Today I'll tell you that I need somebody

803
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 9: pulling onto my pocket telling me not to do it

804
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 9: because I am on the edge.

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Speaker 3: Brother, I'll talk to you later. Whatever.

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00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: Danny's Shane irving Dylan, you might have to be his companion,

807
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: his friend today, he said, sober conpaged. Well, okay, Todd,

808
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: you might have to be.

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00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: I'll try to cheer him up a little bit and

810
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: a couple of bad jokes or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He sent a video earlier, the PA ray and if

813
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: you thought that was off the rails, that video was.

814
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: But that's the passion that he has for this, and

815
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Speaker 2: he's right, Jerry is selling you something. And it's almost

816
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: when somebody's trying to sell you something, but in the

817
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Speaker 2: moment they're trying to sell themselves.

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Speaker 3: I thought that Jerry was doing that. Yes, Marvin, I.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if anybody that's listening to the show right now

820
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Speaker 1: or watching the show has decided to quit the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: like just quit being a fan.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't.

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Speaker 5: We joke around about that on this show, but it

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00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 5: doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 8: If you're truly invested in, truly care about a team,

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Speaker 8: you would never consider quitting.

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Speaker 5: Only a casual fan quits.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to do that. And then who are you

830
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: rooting for? The Eagles? The Commanders Texans?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It goes along with the area code. I mean, that's

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00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: the zip code, that's you know, you sign up for it.

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Speaker 2: You can't be shocked now, you can't go okay, that's

835
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Speaker 2: the last straw. I mean, this has been thirty years now.

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Speaker 2: You've had hawes where you make the playoffs. So you

837
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Speaker 2: get thirteen wins and then you crash out in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but you cannot. I don't think this comes as a surprise.

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Speaker 2: At least it shouldn't. I mean there's still the element

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Speaker 2: of shock that they traded him, kept him in the NFC,

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Speaker 2: and sent him to a team they're going to play

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00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: in a month and made them even more of a

843
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender. Other than that, check in with the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Packers right after this