1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: A listener wrote in to say that his son is 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: in his late thirties and not moving along on getting married, 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: despite saying he wants to and wanted to know my thoughts. 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this idea of running out of 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: time to get married and have a family. Now, obviously 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: you can get married at any age, and I hope 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: that anybody who wants to does, whether they're forty or 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: fifty or eighty. But having kids, my husband always says 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: it's a young man's game, and obviously for women it's 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: even more of a challenge because fertility only lasts so long. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: And I know that it happens, this idea that the 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: person wants to get married and it just never works out. 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I have friends and acquaintances who wanted to get married 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: and have kids and work out for one reason or another. 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: I also know people who are worried about hitting that wall. 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Of course, that feeling like you're running out of time 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: to meet someone can add additional pressure to an already 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: stressful pursuit. So what should people do if they really 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: want to have a family but they're in their mid 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: to late thirties, maybe their early forties, and feeling like 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: they're hitting the end of those baby making years. Here 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: are the five things I'd say. Number one, Yes, you 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: have to treat it like somewhat of a job. I 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: know that's not romantic. In other words, date your face off, 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: be organized about it, clear certain nights of the week 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: for dates. Ask friends and acquaintances to set you up. 28 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: That last one is important. People in your life have 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: to know that you want to be set up. I 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: definitely don't always just assume that, especially now. I think 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: things have changed so much that, you know, we used 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: to think a single person definitely wants to get married, 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: and now it's like every week in the New York 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Times about how being single is the greatest thing ever. 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: And I think people's perspectives has really changed. Number two, 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: If you have things that you need in a relationship, 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: don't bend on those. If you want someone of the 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: same religion, don't date outside that religion. If you're outdoorsy, 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: don't date people like me who are indoorsy. Yes, you 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: should make space for serendipity and who knows what kind 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: of person you're actually going to work out with. But 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: know you're non negotiables, but number three have sane non negotiables. 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: If you're forty and looking for a twenty year old, 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: this list is not for you anyway. And that's an 45 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: example of an insane non negotiable, or the whole thing 46 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: that hit this summer. Women looking for six ' five 47 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: blue eyed trust fund man who works in finance also 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: an insane non negotiable. I would never say lower your expectations, 49 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: but more like, manage your expectations. Number four. Attraction is important, 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: but looks are so often not as tied to attraction 51 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: as we may think. So give people a chance who 52 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: aren't really your type. I think this is one of 53 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: the biggest things actually in this swiping world. So many 54 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: people are passing on people who they would be wildly 55 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: attracted to if they gave them a chance. And number five, 56 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: by that same token, don't settle. If you're not attracted, 57 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: you're not attracted, even if he is six five, blue eyes, etc. 58 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: And you thought that that was what you wanted, but 59 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: it turns out it's not. Life is long, and being 60 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: with someone you're not into but feel like you should 61 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: be is sad. I'm gonna have tips with the younger 62 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: set in future episodes. I feel like I love talking 63 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: about this subject. I think people care about how to 64 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: meet people and I want to get into it. If 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: you've got suggestions, send them over Carol Maarkowitz Show at 66 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. 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Join us 76 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: after the break. 77 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My 78 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: guest today is Christian Toto. Christian is an award winning journalist, 79 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: film critic, author and founder of Hollywood Intoto dot com, 80 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: the Right Take on Entertainment. He's also the host of 81 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: the Hollywood and Toto podcast, available on iTunes or your 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: favorite podcast platform. 83 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: Hi Christian, so nice to have you on. 84 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: It's great to be here. Thanks so much. 85 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: So how did you get into the Hollywood part? Where 86 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: did that come from? 87 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: Well, the trick is you have to get three arch 88 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: degrees and then you figure out that you can draw 89 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 4: hands and feet and have no possible career in this path, 90 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 4: and then you kind of segue into Hollywood coverage. That 91 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: was that was my origin story. But I've always loved movies, 92 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: always wanted to cover movies in some capacity, and when 93 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: career plan A collapsed, I just improvised and worked for 94 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 4: a couple of different newspapers and basically elbowed my way 95 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: into the art section. And that's how the beginning happened, 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: and I've been making it up as I go along 97 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: from there. 98 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: That's funny because I often ask youeople like what their 99 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: Plan B career would be, and you're doing your Plan 100 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: B career. Maybe you know practice couldn't fix the hands 101 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: and legs problem. 102 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it was a It was a combination of. 103 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: Factors like a A I can't do hands either. 104 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: I've seen some of those examples. Yeah, maybe it was 105 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: fortuitous that I left the I left my particular field. 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: When I did, i'd be I'd be obsolete by now. 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, as actually a separate, fascinating conversation about art 108 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: and AI and what's going to happen next. But yeah, 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. I never really thought about 110 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 4: it logically, because you know, going into an arts career 111 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: is not exactly being a lawyer or a doctor. It's 112 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 4: not you know, not set in stone. And then doing 113 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: what I'm doing it was fine for a while, but 114 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: then journalism started to collapse, and you know, my Plan 115 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: B seemed like it may be needed a plan seat. 116 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: So what kind of stuff do you like covering? 117 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: You know, I mean it's Hollywood in general. What I 118 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: do specific is cover Hollywood from a right of center perspective, 119 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: because the more I got involved in this industry, the 120 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 4: more I realized that so few people who are doing 121 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: what I do cover arts from the right, and that 122 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: the messaging, the framing, everything that we talk about as 123 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: far as arts coverage, Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, it's all left 124 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: of center, and often aggressively. So you know, early in 125 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: my career I really embraced their right of center mind view, 126 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: and then I also thought, my gosh, I mean, I 127 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: might as well lean into it professionally because no one 128 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: else seems to be doing it, and it's still mostly 129 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: the case. It's a bit better now, but yeah, I 130 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: just wanted to take that path, and also to be 131 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: honest about it and to be transparent, and also to 132 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: be you know, I don't sling rumors around my website 133 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: or podcast. I don't call people names. I don't make 134 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: fun of the way they look. I want to be professional, 135 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: but I also want to be right of center. 136 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: Do conservatives in Hollywood reach out to you? 137 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, it's really weird. You know. Back 138 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: in the day, I'd interview Johnny Depp or Tom Hanks 139 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: or Will Smith, and now I interviewed Scott Bayo and 140 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: Kevin Sorbo and John Boyd. The pool has shrunk dramatically, 141 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: but you know, it is what it is. And you know, 142 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the right leaning artists understand 143 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: that I'll give them coverage because I mean, they should 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: get press attention like any other actor or artist. And 145 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: they know I'm not going to, you know, give them 146 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: sucker punches when I write. 147 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: About them, right, which I'm sure is not a common 148 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: thing for them. What themes do you like to look 149 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: at in Hollywood? Like, what are I guess what themes 150 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: do your stories take on? 151 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: You know, from a pure artistic point of view, and 152 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: it sounds weird to even frame it that way. I 153 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: love to cover horror movies. It's just it's my favorite genre. 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: I find it so full of escapism. And you know, 155 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: in recent years, between the pandemic and my wife had 156 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: breast cancer. She's fine now, I absolutely craved horror movies. 157 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: It just I just want a genre film. So but 158 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 4: from a professional point of view, in real years, I've 159 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: been almost obsessed with free speech, covering comedians who break 160 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: the mold, who don't play by the rules, you know, 161 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: talking about censorship, whether it's big tech or different platforms, 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: you know, making sure that people don't say what they 163 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: want to say or share the jokes they want to share. 164 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 4: And of course the victory is there too, because we've 165 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: seen some really great strides in recent years. I think 166 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: maybe one of the biggest cultural moments has been when 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: Netflix stood tall and stood up for Dave Chappelle after 168 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 4: that controversial special The Closer he did for I think 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: it was twenty twenty one. Yeah, that was a pivotal 170 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: moment because if you cancel the goat right he call 171 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: him the greatest of all time, maybe the best comedian 172 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: right now if he can't say what he wants to say, 173 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 4: the chilling effect across the comedy landscape and even the 174 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: artistic landscape, I think would have been profound. So you know, 175 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: I really those subjects keep me up at night. The 176 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: fact that censorship is so is so pervasive across the culture, 177 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: across the world, and so I think my career, my 178 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: focus has really shifted in that direction. 179 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: So you do think that things have gotten better because 180 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that that Netflix moment might have 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: been kind of the turning point also, but I think 182 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: a lot of comedians who haven't recovered maybe would say otherwise. 183 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: Do you think that like we're heading in a better direction. 184 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: I think it's two steps forward, one step back. I 185 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: think for every comedian who feels more empowered, who understands 186 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: that they can survive and thrive on Patreon, on YouTube, 187 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: on podcast forms, there are others who are still afraid, 188 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: who still feel punished. I mean, in recent months, Michael Rappaport, 189 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: the actor turned comedian, he's had issues now that's based 190 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: on his faith and being an openly Jewish actor and 191 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: comedian who's supporting Israel. That stepped in the way, but 192 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: that is part of the same picture and why I 193 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: do think that comedians have had a better time of late. 194 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: We still haven't seen that raucous, r rated comedy that 195 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: we used to know and love. And I look across 196 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: the culture as far as what's happening in the UK 197 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 4: and internship and just revelations in recent weeks with what 198 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: Facebook did or didn't do during the twenty twenty election. 199 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: Right issue is all over. So even though there is 200 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: some progress, there is some hope, there's a lot to 201 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: be fearful of. And I think we have to be villaging, vigilant. 202 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: What do you worry about in our culture? Like, what 203 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: do you think is our largest problem? 204 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: I think forgetting who we are as a people. I 205 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: think forgetting what makes America so wonderful. You don't ignore 206 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: the flaws, you don't say you know we've always been perfect, 207 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: because will never be perfect. But I think there's a 208 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: lack of faith in this system. And I think I 209 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 4: think people have a lack of faith in the institutions. 210 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think that's an original thought. But 211 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: you know, medicine and the media and academia, yeah, you 212 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: name it. 213 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: You know a lot they've done some things to kind 214 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: of shatter our faith. You know. I think, like I 215 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: used to have faith in our you know, health systems 216 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: for example, and far less now. 217 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: How do we get that back? 218 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think for me, COVID broke me. 219 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 220 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: And I think actually in productive, insightful ways. People say, oh, 221 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: they you know, Trump broke people, and I think that's 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: mostly negative, Like they they're letting their emotions get the 223 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: better of them. But how we get better? You know, 224 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 4: I think almost it has to be on an individual basis. 225 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: Where people get red pilled for lack of a better phrase, 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: maybe it's on their own. Maybe they have a kind 227 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: of a journey or discovery of what's going on. You know. 228 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 4: I've been shedding so much light and giving so much 229 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: attention to people like doctor Drew Pinsky or Jillian Michaels. 230 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 4: And they don't agree with my worldview or they don't 231 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 4: vote the way I vote, but they're free thinkers and 232 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: they understand what's going on big picture wise. But I 233 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: think you can't just take people and shove facts and 234 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: figures in their face and say no, you're wrong. Look 235 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: at the media, it's corrupt. Look at COVID, look what 236 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: they did and said it was wrong. It has to 237 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: come from within. But I think if you know, sane, 238 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: logical people, like if we can kind of nudge them 239 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 4: in the right direction and just kind of let them 240 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: open their minds a little bit, I think that process 241 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: may happen faster. But you know, again, it's an individual basis, 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: but it has to be on a collective level. And 243 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: until we get there, I'm worried. I'm just worried across 244 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: the board about the culture of the country, about politics, 245 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: about everything. 246 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: Right. 247 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: I just think I think those institutions, I don't know 248 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: that they survive. 249 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 250 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we need, for example, health agencies, 251 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: But how do you trust the health agencies that openly 252 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: lied about tons of stuff and let you know, Randy 253 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: Winingarten rewrite health care policy. All of that is really 254 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: hard to stomach. So like, if we kind of see 255 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: it in a smaller way that it's not just fully 256 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: reorganizing institutions, We're. 257 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Going to take a quick break and be right back 258 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: on the Carol Markowitz Show. 259 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: What are the steps that our culture would need to 260 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: take for that regain of trust. And it seems so 261 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: big to me. It seems insturmountable that you know, you 262 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: say on an individual basis, but even on an individual basis, 263 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how we get there. 264 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's the million dollar question. I don't 265 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: I don't have a firm answer. I wish I did. 266 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: You know, I would like some apologies from the people 267 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 4: who have misled us. I think that would be helpful. 268 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: In the constructive Yeah, that's not going to happen. 269 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: Not going to happen, But I wishful thinking you're you know, 270 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: I'm kind of you're asking me a pie in the sky. 271 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: That's the guy. You know, if it's such an interesting 272 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: time that we live in because we have more means 273 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: to communicate, We've got more methods to do so in 274 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: a very speedy fashion. We have more I think the 275 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: average consumer has more ability to sway these big powers. 276 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: You know, it can be a single person who has 277 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: a viral video that is impactful or that shatters expectations 278 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: or narratives, and I think we can, we can make change. 279 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: But it seems like we don't. You know, if if 280 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: a not people had stood up to some of the 281 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: more egregious COVID protocols, they would have changed because you know, 282 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: these big institutions are often cowardly. But we didn't. You know, 283 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: Adam Carolla talks about this all the time. If you know, 284 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of people just said, hey, this whole 285 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 4: nonsense of like taking bites and SIPs and lowering your 286 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: masks on the plane. It just showed the folly of 287 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: the of the protocols. But we didn't stand up. So 288 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: I do worry about our sheep like tendencies and our 289 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: inability to kind of really take us stand at a 290 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: time where we have more tools at our disposal. I mean, 291 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: you know, you and I could go make a video 292 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: tomorrow and use the most rudimentary tools and it would 293 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: look pretty slick, and you could put it up on 294 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: YouTube and rumble and could in theory, get a lot 295 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: of attention and could change hearts and minds. So the 296 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: potential is there. It almost nags at us because it's 297 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: so within reach, but we just don't seem to go there. 298 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: And I, you know, and I don't understand how my 299 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: friends on the center left the head and not look 300 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: at the media and just be a ghast at what's 301 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: going on just right. I don't understand. 302 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: Do you think that Hollywood is making any changes? Like, 303 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: are they you know, because I think they went through 304 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: a period of real super leftism in the last few 305 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: years where everything was woke and you know, all scripts 306 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: had a diversity reader and a sensitivity reader and all 307 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: of that. Are they coming around to sanity or is 308 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: it never going to happen. 309 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: It's a yes, yes, and a no answer, and I'll 310 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: tell you the yes part. I think this this summer, 311 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: we've seen a lot of films that were I don't 312 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: want to say anti woke, but just pure entertainment, you know, 313 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: Bad Balay's Ride or Die, Inside Out, to the Deadpool 314 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: and Wolverine. I think this whole summer, the success stories 315 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: have been these pure escapist entertainment projects, and I think 316 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: we're seeing more and more of that, and we're seeing 317 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: less of the lectures. 318 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: Really. 319 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: I was just chatting with a friend recently and he 320 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: talked about how, you know, he's a straight white man 321 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: and who's looking to get into the business, and he 322 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: is struggling and he's been told multiple times that as 323 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: a straight white man there are barriers to entry now, 324 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: and you know that's unacceptable. And listen, back in the 325 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 4: day when if you were a person of color and 326 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: there were barriers to entry, that was unacceptable too. 327 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: We've moved back already understood that. 328 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: I think that we've gotten to where, like I think 329 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: that I maybe not everybody back then, but you know, 330 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: we've gotten to where we understand that that was wrong, 331 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: and yet it can be applied to other races and genders. 332 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: And that's okay. 333 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 4: You asked before about what I want to cover and 334 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 4: what is my passion. You know, I talk all the 335 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: time about the New Blacklist, and it's a subject that's 336 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: so obvious and everyone knows about it, and there's just 337 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: zero outrage. You know, if I'm a Tom Hanks or 338 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 4: a George Clooney and I look around at my conservative 339 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: friends who are in the industry and I realized that 340 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 4: they can't speak and they worry about losing their jobs 341 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: and they have to meet secret I would be so 342 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: outraged by that. I'd say, you know, listen, I don't 343 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 4: agree with anything that John Voyd has to say or 344 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 4: Scott Veo, but boy, they should be able to say 345 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: whatever they want they're not being outrageous or unprofessional or 346 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: inciting violence. They're just having a different point of view 347 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 4: about what their political beliefs are. You know. But that's 348 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: the way it is. And you know, every few weeks 349 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: is a new story in a major publication that really 350 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: highlights what's going on. In recent weeks, we've had Cheryl 351 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: Hines come out and support her husband or a President Trump, 352 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: and now there are stories about how she may be 353 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: shunned in Hollywood. 354 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure she will be. 355 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they write that story. But there's the next 356 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 4: obvious follow up story, well why and that isn't that wrong? 357 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: And yet they don't write that. So that leaves it 358 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: up to people like me to write that story, because 359 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: I do think it's important. I don't agree with everything 360 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: Cheryl Hines has to say. She's a liberal. 361 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of funny that it's conservatives defending these 362 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: liberals and being like, let them speak, It's okay to 363 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: be different, you know, like, maybe you guys can not overreact. 364 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: About this, But I don't know. 365 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: I think that the Tom Hanks and you know, especially 366 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: the George Clooney's, they're having their ideologies enforced. Why would 367 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: they step in and help anybody. They're on the side 368 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: where they you know, feel very comfortable where they are. 369 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: I mean, the cancelation thing is going to happen to them. 370 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: It happens to everybody. I mean, look at Blake Lively 371 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: right now. She's you know, being targeted with the comments 372 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 2: from the past and where she got married or whatever. 373 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: You can never really be a good enough liberal. And 374 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: that's the thing what people on the left need to understand. 375 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: It will come for you. It always comes for you. 376 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: And actually it's a circular firing squad that mostly comes 377 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: for you first. It's very hard to cancel conservatives, very 378 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: easy to cancel liberals. 379 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and there are some protective barriers 380 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: you can put around your career, you know. Jimmy Kimmel, 381 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: he had the blackface episodes. He was on The Man 382 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 4: Show doing wildly offensive jokes. Yeah, you know that can't 383 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 4: be told today. But because he's been such a soldier 384 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: in the ideological trenches, he's protected to a certain degree, 385 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: you know. And Jimmy Fallon, he had a single blackface 386 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: episode and he had to basically do like a hostage 387 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: apology on The Tonight Show and make amends for what 388 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: he did. Yeah, and yet Kimmel did that much more often, right, kim, 389 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: end of the kind happened. I think he offered a 390 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: melliam outh apology at some point, but it certainly wasn't forced, 391 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: it wasn't on video, it wasn't on a show. Right. So, 392 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: but having said that, you also see, like people like 393 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: Tina Fey, who's been a good liberal celebrity. She's been 394 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 4: punished for telling the wrong jokes. And while she initially said, hey, 395 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: you know, I make it a policy not to explain 396 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 4: my jokes, she's kind of gone one hundred and eighty 397 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: and now she's part of the part of the team. 398 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: And she's actually used from episodes of thirty Rock because 399 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 4: they had blackface incidents in it. 400 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: Right, Well, Kimmel had to not Kimmel Fallon had to 401 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: apologize for rustling Donald Trump's hair, and he like basically cried. So, 402 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: you know, I don't feel too sorry for him. But 403 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: do you remember when Russell Simmons was. 404 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: Accused of rape. 405 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't really know what happened with that, but you know, 406 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 2: height of me to all these powerful men are being 407 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: accused of stuff. Russell Simmons gets accused of rape, and 408 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: his response is, Okay, I'm going to open an anti gun, 409 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: anti Trump like center. Okay, like you got me, but 410 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: like I'm going to like invest all this money and 411 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: left his causes. Like he really said that because he 412 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: thought that was all he needed to say. 413 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 4: Well, Harvey Weinstein pulled the same trick when he was 414 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 4: accused of sexual improprieties. That was his very first response 415 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: in his quasi. Yeah, I did some bad things, but 416 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: it was a different time. Oh and by the way, 417 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: I've got some plans for projects. They don't like. Liberal 418 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: Hollywood didn't work for him. 419 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: It's amazing how bluntly and openly they said all that 420 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: and you know, largely got away with it. 421 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny. It's a bit off the topic. 422 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 4: Maybe it's not. But Sean asked in the actor from 423 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: the Lord of the Rings films, he's been on a 424 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: tear for Kamala Harris, and I followed his career over 425 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: the years. He's like a very nice fellow and talented guy. 426 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: But you know, he's been in a sense relegated to 427 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: smaller films, indie films, faith based projects, and I almost wonder, 428 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: like this is his pitch to kind of get back 429 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: into the least. 430 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: You guys like me. I'm on your side. 431 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it may work, you know that, certainly may Yeah. 432 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 4: I think Mark Hamill is on that path with all 433 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: his proclamations in recent months. 434 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: But that's exactly right. 435 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: It's the way Hollywood works. 436 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you get to write about whatever you want. 437 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've made it? 438 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: I knew this question was coming, and I hate and 439 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: love it. I hate it because. 440 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: It's exactly the feeling I hope to evoke. 441 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 4: My wife often pulls me aside and says, Honey, you're 442 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: your own boss, You've got your own career, You're writing 443 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: about things you love. You have made it, absolutely and 444 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: on paper there's some truth there. But I don't feel 445 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: like I've made it. I don't. I just I struggle. 446 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 4: I've got anxiety about the work I do, and to 447 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: be truth with Carol, there are so few people doing 448 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: what I do right. You should be the thing in 449 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 4: I mentioned like I'm almost all alone in this space. 450 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: So I really I feel the work isn't done, and 451 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: the thing that I really care about the most is 452 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: to not sell out and not be something that isn't 453 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: true to me, Like I could be more red meat, 454 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: and I could push the rumors and I could do 455 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: all the stick and I could be more famous, but 456 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: I just can't. In my heart, I can't. It feels 457 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: so fake. So I think on paper, I think I'm 458 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: doing fine, but I still struggle. I struggle every day. 459 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: I was struggling before the MIC's turned on. 460 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 3: Today you don't seem like it, but okay, I get that. 461 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: You know that's really I mean, I think that any 462 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: everybody you know, it's to some extent, fakes it until 463 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: they make it. 464 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 465 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: We do struggle, you know, we struggle before the mics 466 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: come on, and then the MIC's come on and we 467 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: just do it. 468 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: We just power through it. 469 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: It's funny when I was I first started as a reporter, again, 470 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: no experience, know nothing, and I go to these town 471 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: meetings in Pittsburgh and I'm like, I don't know what 472 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: I'm doing, And that was truly legitimately faking it till 473 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: but I got through that te period. 474 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: Well. I love that. I really enjoyed having you on. 475 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: Leave us here with your best tip from my listeners 476 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: on how they can improve their lives. 477 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: Well, it's a little one, but you know, to me, 478 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 4: there's two little kind of quasi tips here. I just 479 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: think everything that you can do in life to make 480 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 4: other people's lives a smidge better is always a positive. 481 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: It could be holding the door open for someone, It 482 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 4: could be letting someone in and a traffic jam, that 483 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: kind of thing. But more importantly, if you're in a 484 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: relationship and you know there are little things that your 485 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 4: spouse really that makes them happy. Like for me, when 486 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: I fill the gas tag cup in the family, Yeah, 487 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: my wife is ecstatic and it's something microscopic move. It 488 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: takes almost nothing. It's got to get done. But if 489 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: I do it and I'm proactive about it, it makes 490 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: her life a little bit happier, and it makes her 491 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 4: a little bit happier. So just think about those micro 492 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: moves you can do throughout the day that costs nothing, 493 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 4: It takes so little time. I think they have an impact. 494 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: I totally agree. I love and my husband fills the 495 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: car up with gas. It's like one of my favorite things. Absolutely. 496 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: He is Christiantoto. 497 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: His website is Hollywoodantoto dot com. The Right take on entertainment. 498 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: Listen to his Show, the Hollywood and Toto Podcast. 499 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: So nice to have you on. 500 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: Christian Oh, thanks so much, Thanks so much for joining 501 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Subscribe wherever you get 502 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: your podcasts.