1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports. Good morning, Happy Saturday to you, 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: you know fellas who are knee deep into the Olympics 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: over here. I would like to report that my girlfriend 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: and I successfully won a water polo bet you know, congratulations, 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that. What country on Team USA? USA? 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Go go Usa? 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: I also want a team USA three on three? Oh 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: bet right? 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Good? 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? The plus five and a half against up your alley. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: I could see you loving that event. 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out ice cube? 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right pretty much? Yes, fast paced right there. 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: So we are immersed with the Olympics and we can 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: talk more about them as the show goes along. But 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this right with the Olympics in mind. 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: You want to go for the gold, right, you always 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: want to go for the gold. You don't want to 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: go for the gold of bad takes, Okay, but that's 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: what's happened in the world of NFL football. Here. Have 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: you seen this NFL Network Top one hundred list. I'll 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: move right to the top of the list. Okay, number one, 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: the number one player in the NFL right now? 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: One? 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Yes, what do you think it might be? You better 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: be Patrick Mahomes. It isn't. Oh, forget it, the list 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: is done. They lost me already. It is Dolphins wide 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: receiver Tyreek. 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: People. 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: But now you're thinking, well, he's got to be number two, right, 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: Mahomes got to be number two. Who's number two on 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the list? Lamar Jackson? Get out? So you're like, okay, 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: this is officially off the rails here. Mahomes can't be 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: any lower than number three, right, number three on the list, 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I've got to know still Holmes is number 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: four on the list. 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: This is my nightmare, all right? So three time Super 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: Bowl winner, he's only been to AFC Championship games as 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: a starting quarterback. He's won back to back super Bowl 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: something that I don't know, maybe what three? 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: Is it? 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Three human beings on the planet can say they've done that? 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: Is it? Two? I mean, how many? How many human 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: beings have started back to back and one back to 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: back Super Bowls? We're down to a small handful and 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: he's not at the top of the list. Why what 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: else do we need to see? What else needs to 50 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: be proven? What about the quarterback position? Are people missing? 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: This is the most difficult job in sports, to be 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback. Of a football team. You have the most 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: pressure of any other sport. You are one of the 54 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: few positions in all of sports that have wins and 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: losses attached to him, and people actually seem to care 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: when they debate. It used to be that way for 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: starting pitchers. But now that they hand the ball off 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: in the fifth or sixth inning every single time, it's 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: a routine. Even sometimes on a no hitter, we'll see 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: that happen. Now. I think a lot of people, really 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: they don't look at wins and losses with starters as 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: much anymore. See Jacob de Gram. You know the fact 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: that you can win a sign young and it has 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: nothing to do with your wins and losses anymore, you know. 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: So I digress back to NFL, back to Patrick Mahomes 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: being fourth on this list. This is one of the 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: silliest things I've ever heard. And that's what these lists are. 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: They're silly, you know, They're they're provocative. They're trying to 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: do exactly what they've done now is get you all 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: fired up at six o'clock in the morning, West Coast time. 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: So there you have it, well done, NFL Top one hundred. 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: You made a surly man surlier. It's clickbait. 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I see people put these lists out people 74 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: in the media space, and they'll be like, oh, here's 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: my rankings for the top ten whatever quarterbacks, players, whatever 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: you want to rank in the NFL. If if Patrick 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes is not number one, I stop because there's no 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: point in continuing. I I've already lost respect for your 79 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: opinion so much that I that I don't even need 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: to continue. And it's not even like a surly thing. 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: It's a point spread thing. What's the great equalizer in 82 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: the NFL? Why was the point spread invented to grade 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: these players? In these teams? When Patrick Mahomes leaves the 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: field and whatever backup comes on, you will not see 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: a greater decrease in that team's point spread than when 86 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: that swap occurs. That is the only currency that matters 87 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: to me when I am grading or ranking players. What 88 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: are they earth against the spread? And Patrick Mahomes is 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: the king of the castle? Yeah? That's uh. There are 90 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: a couple of ways to look at this, and none 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: of them validate that one hundred at the top of 92 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: the list. Is I was I'm really thinking about this 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: because I want to expand my mind, and every now 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: and then I'm so passionate about one side that I 95 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: don't even look at the other side. Right, So, even 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: if I look at the other side, I think there 97 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: are two angles that make the most sense, and none 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: of them back up Tyreek Hill being number one over 99 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, where no matter how you slice it, it's 100 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: it comes up Mahomes. So one angle is just the obvious. 101 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: If the Chiefs who traded Tyreek Hill and then won 102 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: the next two Super Bowls, if they had traded Patrick 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes instead, I think they're even sniffing two straight super Bowls. 104 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Of course, Now the other is I love that. That 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: is an evil genius, doctor evil rich Nberger. 106 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: Laugh right. 107 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Right on the money. The other angle is this, in 108 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: this top one hundred list, they try to just look 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: at position by position. We know quarterback is the most 110 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: valuable position in football. The top quarterback is way more 111 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: valuable than the top wide receiver. They try to put 112 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: that to the side. So even ask yourself this question, 113 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: is Tyreek Hill better as a wide receiver or is 114 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes better as a quarterback? That right, like, Mahomes 115 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: is better. Mahomes is absolutely without a doubt the best 116 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL right now, unless you're trying to 117 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: get some clicks on your wacky top ten quarterbacks list, 118 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Mahomes is number one. Rich laid it out all the accolades. 119 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: It's indisputable. Tyreek Hill is not, without a doubt, the 120 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL right now. I think most people 121 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: have justin Jefferson is the number one guy right now. 122 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: So it's not indisputable. So even if you look at 123 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: just like this is baseball, is this second basement the 124 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: best second basement compared to this left fielder? 125 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: Right Like? 126 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Even if you say Tyreek Kill is a wide receiver, 127 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: is he better in that realm than Mahomes's as a quarterback? 128 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: The answer is still no. So, long story short, this 129 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: list sucks. 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: It's terrible. It's yeah, And so you're on a insummation. 131 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: It does fail. I look, there's so many things about 133 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: this list that are are arguable. But one of the things, 134 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: when you really look through it, and I've given it 135 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: a cursory view, there's something like twenty receivers, I mean 136 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: wide receivers have taken over this league. There's no question. 137 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: I mean, go through the list of names that are 138 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: just popping off the screen and Tyreek Kill Justin, Jefferson, 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 2: AJ Brown, I'm on Ross, Ain't Brown, Mike evn cd Limb, 140 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean, go down the list. Terry McLaurin makes an appearance. 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: It's it's uh, it's one of those times where there's 142 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: been a great transition. I mean, the the the littering 143 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: of of wide receivers all over this list just goes 144 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: to show you where we're at and the fact that 145 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: a wide receiver has claimed the top spot. Just I mean, 146 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: it really exemplifies or highlights where we're at. This is 147 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: now a passing league. This is what people want to see. 148 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: They want to see their their fantasy team light up. 149 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: When when Sunday comes, you know, we're all general managers now. 150 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: Every single person I know is in a fantasy league. 151 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: Everybody is getting the emails from their their league's commissioners 152 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: and they're getting ready and the buy ins are coming. 153 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: It's it's this is a part of the culture now. 154 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: And so why like Patrick Mahomes is valuable to the Chiefs. 155 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: Anybody who understands football understands his value to the game 156 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: and his value to sports. But when you're a general 157 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: manager and you're running a fantasy football team, who's more 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: valuable Patrick Mahomes or Tyreek Hill? And I think that's 159 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: what this has transitioned to. I think that our opinions 160 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: have been skewed by our hobbies. And our hobby is 161 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: more than watching football, it's playing fantasy football, and so 162 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: I think that has a lot to do with this. 163 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting take, because you're right, in terms 164 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: of the fantasy world, the quarterback is not valued as 165 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: much as the other positions are because you only start 166 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: one of them. And if there's only ten or twelve 167 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: teams in the league, well, odds are you're gonna have 168 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks still available on the wire that you can 169 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: still pick up. You want to hear a fun fact, 170 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: I haven't played fantasy football in three years. Three years 171 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: because I'm just I'm so consumed with the gambling stuff now. 172 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: It's just I don't have the time and I'm just 173 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: being I feel like I'm on one of those medieval 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: torture acts extrection. So many different directions if I have 175 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: like multiple fantasy teams and survivor and this and all that. 176 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Here's a fun little caveat here and I'll throw this 177 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: into the mix and you tell me what you think. 178 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: It appears, and I could be wrong about this. It 179 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: appears this list the current players in the league were 180 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the ones voting. Is that true? Yes? And that's the 181 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: funny thing, the qualifying right there. I'm so glad you 182 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: brought that up, because it's like, oh, the players when 183 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: some award is voted on, right, and it comes out 184 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: like the media voted on it, the players are like, oh, 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: the players should vote on this because the players know, Yeah, 186 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: the players don't, or how about this, or the players 187 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: are fatigued with Mahomes, like this guy so much, he's 188 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: won so much, screw them? 189 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: Is there no fan voting a part of this at all? 190 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: This is one hundred. It appears. And here's the interesting part. 191 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: I pulled up last year's list. Guess who was number 192 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: one on last year's list? And guess who was number two? 193 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes justin Jefferson, Hm. 194 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it's what's changed, right, Yeah, he won another Super 195 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Bowl and was electric, so like he should definitely, Yeah, 196 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna downgrade him. And here's the best part, Tyreek Hill. 197 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: Last year it was seventh on the list. 198 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I mean, maybe maybe it's changed. 199 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: I barely remember filling this out when I was playing. 200 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh you filled one of these outrage I barely remember it. 201 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: I I kin't. I mean, it's the faintest of memories. 202 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you right now, I promise you 203 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: I've never filled it out completely. I mean, if, if, 204 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: and here. I know these lists are very important to 205 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, to fans because you know this. This stirs 206 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: something in there. Look, it stirred something in me. I 207 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: had forgotten that we were even participants in there. But 208 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: the crazy thing about the fact that this is left 209 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: to the players to decide. Let me tell you who's 210 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: the worst people to decide who's the best athleague. It's 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: the guys who are consumed with being the best at 212 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: what they're doing. Yes, right, Because there is a certain 213 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: level of self centeredness you need to have to be 214 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: a professional athlete that's under discussed because of the sacrifices 215 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: that the people who are closest to you have to 216 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,359 Speaker 2: make as a result of that. It is a selfish 217 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: endeavor being a professional athlete. I'll repeat that, it is 218 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: an extremely selfish endeavor being a professional athlete. You have 219 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: to be so self absorbed. You have to be constantly 220 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: thinking about if you got enough sleep, if you got 221 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: the right nutrition, if your weight is dialed into the 222 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: correct amount of pounds, if the scale is going to 223 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: say something that you're confident in when you take the 224 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: field on Sunday, especially if you're an offensive lineman who 225 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: struggled the game weight like I did at that at 226 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: that time, you know, do you have the playbook down? 227 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: Did you spend enough time? Do you have to skip 228 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: that that dinner with friends so you can you know, 229 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: study film. I mean, you ruin your social life in 230 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: order to have a professional life when it comes to football, 231 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: and everybody's fine with it around you. That's the other 232 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: thing is because you're chasing a dream, nobody wants to 233 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: get in your way. So you have very few people saying, no, 234 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: you need to have balance, No you don't. You need 235 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: to be the best. That's what you're chasing. And so 236 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: if you're gonna stick a list in front of me, 237 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: this superfluous, ridiculous waste of my time list in front 238 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: of me and say hey, if you got a second, rich, 239 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: could you fill out this list? Because the fans really 240 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: want to know who you think are the top one 241 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: hundred players in the league. I'm gonna be like, yeah, sure, nah, 242 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna rip it up and I'm going to 243 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: move on with my day doing what I think I 244 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: need to do to make sure that I'm ready to 245 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, face the Arizona Cardinals or the Green 246 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: Bay Packers or the New York Giants. I'm not worried 247 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: about a list. So the NFL football players are probably 248 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: the worst human beings to vote on who the best 249 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: NFL football The list is really tough too, Like the 250 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: number on hundred guy list is Zire Franklin. 251 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Like who in the league. And I'm not saying people 252 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: don't know who Zaire Franklin is, But if you're just 253 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: a random player in the league, do you really know 254 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: the difference between Zaire Franklin and Levonte David, who's ninety 255 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: nine on the list? Like how do you grade those guys? 256 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: It's really tough just throwing names out there. And this 257 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: is a little bit that goes into it as well, 258 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Like you talk about being biased, and that's what rich 259 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: was explaining there. Right, here's some audio. This gives you 260 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: a little encapsulation of the player's mindset. This is Bengals 261 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver Jamar Chase. Check this out. Who is the 262 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: number one player? I'm not saying him. I get credit 263 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: when to due, but I'm not saying his name. Yeah 264 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: you do. 265 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying his name. Brother. I'm sorry, Joe Burrow. 266 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: He's good, He's amazing, He's good. Not gonna lie. I'm 267 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: salty though, a little solid two years in a row. 268 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm put Borough. 269 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: First, right right, so you know it is. Mahomes got 270 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: us a couple of times. He won't even say his names, 271 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: like Baltimore. What one real, last thing, real quickly from me? 272 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: Is I think putting Lamar over Mahomes is a worse 273 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: take than putting Tyreek Hill over Mahomes because at least 274 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: there's an argument where it's like, hey, is is Tyreek 275 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: better as a wide receiver as Mahomes is as a quarterback? 276 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: The answer, of course is no. But at least that's 277 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: a better argument than hey, is, uh is Mahomes better 278 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: as a quarterback than Lamar is? It's like, hell, yeah 279 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: he is. It's not even close. Like just a couple 280 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: of numbers to compare. Just look at the playoffs Lamar 281 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: is two and four. Realize Mahomes is fifteen and three 282 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and just touchdowns to interceptions. You could 283 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: look at all the numbers if you want to do. 284 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: They all Mahomes in the playoffs. Lamar touchdowns to picks 285 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: six to six, Mahomes touchdowns to picks forty one to eight. 286 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: And you're gonna rank Lamar, who hasn't even gotten to 287 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, who fades in the playoffs over Mahomes. 288 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: You're on drugs? In no world does that come close 289 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: to making sense? Yeah, no sense at all. 290 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: I feel like this is a machination of a public 291 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: relations assistant somewhere in you know, the NFL headquarters, where 292 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: their task like, hey, listen, we got back all these 293 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: sheets from the players. You know, most of them are 294 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: torn in half, some of them are half filled out. 295 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: Could you guys make sense of this? So they locked 296 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: themselves in a boardroom for four hours and they start 297 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: going through this list, and they realize at some point 298 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: every year, this is an effort in like ridiculous vanity. 299 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: You know, you're trying to cobble together a list from, 300 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: like you said, a majority biased people or people who 301 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: just don't care because they have more important things to 302 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: do than worry about filling out one hundred names on 303 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: a list. I would have a hard time, honestly committing 304 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: the energy to filling out a top twenty because you're 305 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: just busy. I mean, and it's nonsense. It like like, 306 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: let me tell you something, let me tell you something. 307 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: There wasn't a single head coach, offensive coordinator, offensive line 308 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: coach whoever said to me, Hey, Rich, listen, awesome job Sunday. 309 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: We got film work Monday, and then we got the 310 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: day off Tuesday. Hey, on your day off Tuesday, make 311 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: sure you get that top. 312 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: One hundred list. 313 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 2: Like not happening. So this was a This is the 314 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: pr arm of the NFL trying to get fans fired up, 315 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: and that's all it is. 316 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love. 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So, the Hall of Fame game 355 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: was on Thursday, and the big takeaway was kickoffs look 356 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: a whole lot different. It was your first glimpse into 357 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the XFL inspired kickoff returns that will take place in 358 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: the NFL all season long. And it was funny because 359 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: Devin Hester, who's going into the Hall of Fame today, 360 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: is going to be enshrined great return man. We got 361 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: his thoughts on this. There weren't any long kickoff returns right, 362 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: nothing beyond the thirty one yard line, and Devin Hester 363 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: said the new kickoff rules are quote kind of shaky. 364 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: What he said, so My thought was, you know, we 365 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: didn't have three touchdowns on kickoff returns. I screw this 366 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: year for we need instant results here. But look, man, 367 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: there were twenty one percent of kickoffs that were returned 368 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: last season. I think that's the lowest since nineteen seventy 369 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: twenty one percent were returned, and that number is going 370 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: to greatly rise this season. I think it's absolutely better. 371 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: At least he gets some action. You are going to 372 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: get some long returns, You're going to get some touchdowns 373 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: at times. I'm all in on the new kickoff format, 374 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: are you, guys? 375 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm I'm undecided, But overall I didn't like it. You know, 376 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: I remember watching it a couple of times in the UFL, 377 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: and then watching it, you know, some of the clips 378 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: leading into this game this week, you know, discussing the 379 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: new kickoff rules. Look, I'm a fan of Look. Change 380 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: is inevitable. So you're either a fan of it or 381 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: you're afraid of it. I'm typically a fan of change. 382 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's overall good to try 383 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: new things. Sometimes those new things don't work out, and 384 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: I think the NFL has dabbled in that pool a 385 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: fair amount. You know, if you if you think about, 386 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: for example, the egregious n on call pass interference in 387 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game between the Saints and the Rams, 388 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: and the still Saints fans especially, but the Saints players 389 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: who are on the field, they will still complain about that. 390 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: That might have been their shot to the Super Bowl, 391 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: and who knows, may have rewritten the history of the NFL. 392 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: But I digress. The very next season, the NFL decided 393 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: to change the PI rules so that you could review PI. 394 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: It was the first time they ever gave people or 395 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 2: coaches the opportunity to do that. Well, here's the problem. 396 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: It didn't work, and so they went back to the 397 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: old way. It is conceivable that the NFL will do 398 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: this and it won't work, and then it'll just be 399 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: a weird footnote in the history of the game and 400 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: they'll go back to the way it used to be. 401 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: What this reminds me of, and I tweeted about this 402 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: this week, is when you get a brand new bike 403 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: for the first time on Christmas, but the only way 404 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: you're allowed to ride it is if you're wearing knee pads, 405 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: elbow hats, risk guards, the gloves on your hands, the 406 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: fingerless gloves. You gotta wear the helmet, you gotta wear 407 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: a reflective vests, and your parents need to be supervising you. 408 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're not allowed to ride that bike. Okay, now, 409 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: go have fun. It just feels like we're trading in. 410 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: I guess some level of fun for safety, you know, 411 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know if I don't know if football 412 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: needs to be safer. It's pretty safe right now. 413 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I I'm okay with it. I'm okay 414 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: with change. I agree Rich, it's gonna be wonky. But 415 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: here's why I like it. I like it because it 416 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: changes the dynamic of how we view certain situations. For example, 417 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: this kickoff rule, in my opinion, gives teams a better 418 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: chance to have better field position. I think the average 419 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: starting field position will increase in the NFL because if 420 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: you take the touchback, you're at the thirty yard line, 421 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: and there will be some times where the touchback does occur. 422 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Right if you kick it in the end zone, it 423 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: goes out to the thirty And I think overall, because 424 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: of just the scheme of it, you will have teams 425 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: with better average starting field position than last year and 426 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: probably over the last twenty years on average. What that 427 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: does is it changes the goal to go dynamic, and 428 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: the coaches will make different decisions based off of it. 429 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: For example, fourth and goal from the one or two 430 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: yard line. If you know now the team is gonna 431 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: get the ball probably at the thirty on a kickoff, 432 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: it makes the field goal considerably less. From that position, 433 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm going for it more now on fourth and goal 434 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: from inside the three, I'm not taking the field goal 435 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: as much. It's not worth as much because the opponent's 436 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball the thirty yard line. If we 437 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: kick it off right, we kick the field goal, they 438 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: get three points, and then we're gonna kick it off 439 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get it to thirty probably. Why wouldn't 440 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: I go for it, go for the touchdown? And if 441 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't get it, well, now the team pinned back 442 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: inside and that matters more because on average, when you 443 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: kick it off, the team is starting closer to your 444 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: end zone. So it changes the math a little bit 445 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: on goal to go. That strategy and how coaches handle 446 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: that intrigues me a lot. And I don't know if 447 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: the kickoffs are going to be this exciting play, we'll 448 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: get a few. I'm sure, but the way that the 449 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: denominator changes now with goal to go, because let's be honest, 450 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: those are the most impactful plays in the game. Third, fourth, 451 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: down inside the five, the difference between getting three and 452 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: getting seven usually decides the game. That is what intrigues 453 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: me about this new rule. You know, I've got something 454 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: to add here in a couple of minutes. But you 455 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of keywords there, impactful, you know, you know, 456 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: buzz right, Oh yeah, he said a couple of things 457 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: with intriguing, and it just got me thinking of one 458 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: Isaac loewen Kron this morning, right, who plus his way 459 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: through the update. 460 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: Right, I don't have a sound effect for intriguing soul, 461 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 5: just have to wing a fellas. Good morning to you, 462 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 5: and let's start with the quarterfinals in women's soccer at 463 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 5: the Olympics. As we speak, Team USA and Japan are 464 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: scoreless in the thirty third minute in the first half. 465 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 5: Coming up at eleven to fifteen Eastern, the US men's 466 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: basketball team takes on Puerto Rico in its final match 467 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 5: of pool play. The US has two to zero, already 468 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 5: clinched a spot in the quarterfinals. And Major League Baseball 469 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 5: on Friday night, Blake Snell of the San Francisco Giants 470 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 5: pitched a no hitter at a three to nothing victory 471 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: at Cincinnati. It was the third no hitter in the 472 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 5: Majors this year. Snell struck out eleven walk three through 473 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: one hundred and fourteen pitches. It was the first complete 474 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: game of his major league career. A Minnesota Twins over 475 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 5: the White Sox ten to two. The White Sox have 476 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 5: now lost eighteen consecutive games, longest losing streak in the 477 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: Majors since the Orioles lost nineteen back in twenty twenty one. 478 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 5: But during this eighteen game losing streak, the White Sox 479 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 5: had been outscored one hundred and twelve to thirty nine. 480 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: Ye A's held off the Dodgers sixty five, despite Shoe 481 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 5: O'tani's thirty third home run, Mets over the Angels in 482 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: Anaheim five to one. In Seattle, the Mariners defeated the 483 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: Phillies ten to two. Philadelphia has lost twelve of sixteen, 484 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: and the Colorado Rockies defeated this book, Padre, that's good, 485 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 5: that's going on. 486 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: You know, No, we could we can get away from 487 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: I love. That's a weird little that'll be all I 488 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: love that. 489 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 3: Was that was odd. 490 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: My microphone light just went out, so that's weird. 491 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 5: The Colorado Rockies won their game five to two. 492 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: How's that, Rich? 493 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 5: Uh? 494 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: That that'll do? Thank you, Isaac Lowacron, very well, wonderful update, 495 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: Very well done. 496 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: We appreciate that. I love Fox Sports Saturday here on 497 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: five Sports Radio. I was thinking about your bike comparison here, Rich. Yeah, 498 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've got a bike comparison of my own. Okay, 499 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to try on for size. Here is you know, 500 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying about the safety aspect of this. 501 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: Where the kicking team they start at the opponent's forty 502 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: yard line, that's where they line up, so you don't 503 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: have those high impact plays. So I understand what you're saying, like, 504 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ride your bike, but we need your 505 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: elbow pads, your knee pads. We want you to be 506 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: as safe as possible. Yeah, And I get how you're like, 507 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: that's not the coolest thing ever. I get that. The 508 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: thing with the old rules where these these kickers are 509 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: just banging the ball into the end zone. Out of 510 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: the end zone, there's no kickoff return in sight. That 511 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: would be like the bike situation. If your parents told you, yeah, 512 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, ride your bike, and then the kid is 513 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 1: like all right, cool, they go and the front wheel 514 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: is gone. You know what I mean, Like there were 515 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: not even really riding your bike. There's nothing interesting about 516 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: seventy nine percent of kickoffs not being returned. 517 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 518 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I agree what we had and now we have. 519 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: Your argument is is a is a profound and important argument. 520 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: During this time you're looking for excitement on the football field, 521 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: I think everybody is, by and large. However, if we 522 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 2: just rewind the clock a little bit, we had a 523 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: perfect play. You kicked off. It was a twenty yard 524 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: touchback or fair catch rule, and most of those those 525 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: kickoffs were returned. Now, by the way, kickers have gotten 526 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: stronger over the years. So if you want to make 527 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: it so there's more returns back the kicker up five 528 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: more yards. That's the only change that you really needed 529 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: to make reasonably to make the game more interesting or exciting. 530 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: What this is aimed to do is make a dangerous 531 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: and violent game safer. And I don't think the players 532 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 2: were clamoring for it. I'm not even necessarily sure the 533 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: fans were clamoring for it. I think it was just 534 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: such a bad pr for the league to have guys 535 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: getting concussions at twice the rate per their stats on 536 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: kickoffs and kickoff returns than any other play on the 537 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: football field that they realized, like, geez, you know, maybe 538 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: having these guys running down the field sprinting into each 539 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: other is the wrong way to start a game, start 540 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: a half, or to follow every single score in a game. 541 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: So we ought to come up with something different. But 542 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: as soon as they started tinkering with the rules, Brian, 543 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: that's when we started having these problems. As soon as 544 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: you hyper incentivized fair catches and all those things, I mean, 545 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: you no longer had to play. And so it's to 546 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: me it's the problem with tinkering. Sometimes sometimes we lose 547 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: sight of well, the first thing was pretty good, and 548 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: we just tinkered our way into thinking like, well, now 549 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: we need to change this bad thing and make it better. 550 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: It's like no, no, no. If you just scrap all 551 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: of the changes we made and you go back to 552 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: the original idea, you had the most exciting version of 553 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: the kickoff, well. 554 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: That's the thing is this would be like a vacation. Okay, 555 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: if your first choice is the old kickoff returns, right, 556 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: your first choice is, man, I've always wanted to go 557 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: to Italy. Okay, I've always wanted to go to Venice, right, 558 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: and then someone's like, that's off the table, can't go there. 559 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: It's a thing to get it out of your mind. 560 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: It's over. Yeah, Okay. Then it's like, okay, now we 561 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: get into this realm of well, I'd rather go to 562 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: Vegas than demoin right like that, that's where we are 563 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: with the kickoff. Yeah, like, get Italy out of your mind. Rich, 564 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: We're not getting Devin Hester returning a normal kickoff against 565 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: the Colts. Of it's done, it's over. 566 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 567 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: I'd rather have these kickoff rules with actual kickoff returns, 568 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: which to me is Vegas instead of Hey, just have 569 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Harrison Butker boot the ball out of the end zone 570 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: time after time in the Super Bowl. That's de mooined 571 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: to me. We've got real strategy now. This is Jared 572 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: has talked about this. This is like a different style 573 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: running play. We've got Justin Tucker, the Ravens kicker. He's 574 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: bulking up. He added pounds in the off season because 575 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: he might be in on some of these tackles. Here, 576 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: we've got the chiefs talking about do we have Justin 577 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Reid kick off instead of butt like boom. We've got 578 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: something interesting going on that it's that's at least better 579 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: than touchback after touchback, you know what. That takes it 580 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: to a different level, it really does. Sorry, go ahead, No, no. 581 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I I really I wanted 582 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: to see Naples before I died. Nice. I don't know Mediterrane. 583 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: Can you imagine my skin ind on the Mediterrane? 584 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: Geez, well, I guess you'ld do a remote in uh 585 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: in the on the Amalfi Coast, we get Scot Shapira 586 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and get international remotes. There you go here, Yeah, I 587 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: like that all right. By the way, shortly after the show, 588 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: our podcast will be going up. If you miss anything 589 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: on today's show, be sure to check it out. Just 590 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Be 591 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: sure to also follow rate and review it again. Just 592 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and 593 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: you'll see the show posted. Right after we get off 594 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: the air, We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, 595 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian Nell coming up. Next, 596 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: a little tweak to the format here. The football seasons 597 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: right NFL, college football, it's right around the corner here. 598 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to the futures. Here, we're looking 599 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: at the futures market that you might be able to 600 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: take advantage of. And Jared Smith, he is all over it. 601 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: He's got what is it like? A beautiful mind with 602 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: Russell crowew guys three hours, diagrams and bart crafts and everything. 603 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: We'll go back to the futures. Coming up. It is 604 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. It 605 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. 606 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, we don't have time to waste. Let's dive 607 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: into this. It's back to the futures. 608 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: Maybe we can reoic comping up. 609 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: Oh yes, the football season right around the corner. Looking 610 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: at the futures market. So many different ways to look 611 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: at it. You could look at individual awards, you could 612 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: look at team win totals. Jared, we'll start with you. 613 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: What's something that you like? Yeah, so I think you're right. 614 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: There are so many different ways that you can approach this. 615 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: I think this week I'll go individual and I'll save 616 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: some of the team stuff for down the road. But 617 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: I think the MVP market's one of my favorite to 618 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: handicap in the NFL because there is a clear diagram 619 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: for how you approach it. Right, the last seven winners 620 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: have come from the quarterback of a number one seed 621 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: in their respective confidence. That's it. If you can figure 622 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: out who the number one seed is in each conference, 623 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: you've got a really good chance to pick who the 624 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: MVP is. Again, seven consecutive winners the quarterback of the 625 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: number one seed. So let's go through the conferences. Well, 626 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: I think the AFC is a lot harder to pick 627 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: the number one seed. I think the Chiefs could have 628 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: a little hangover right regular season. I could see a 629 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: team like Baltimore Cincinnati kind of stealing it, or maybe 630 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: a team from another division because they have an easier schedule. 631 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna focus on the NFC for my MVP 632 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: picks this year because I think that conference has a 633 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: chance to have a higher up side for teams. And 634 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: I think there's two teams I'm targeting, and neither of 635 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: them are San Francisco. I think it's Detroit. I think 636 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: it's Philly. Well, let's just take the quarterbacks of those 637 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: teams right, Jalen Hurts and Jared Goff. I think Jared 638 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: Goff has a really easy schedule, fourteen out of seventeen 639 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: games indoors. They have a really I would call it 640 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: high octane offense with Ben Johnson back. I think Philly 641 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: is a little bit different of an offense. 642 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 2: Right. 643 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts more of a runner than Jared Goff is. 644 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: I think he fits the profile of what an MVP is. 645 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: He kind of resembles what Lamar Jackson did last year. 646 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: So those are my two pre flop, meaning before the 647 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: season starts, MVP bets Jalen Hurts, Ared Goff. 648 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, all right. So Jared Goff, I'll say this. 649 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: I think he's spoiled with weapons. He's gonna have more 650 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: health coming back this season than he finished the season with, 651 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: and he looked pretty good to finish the season. He's 652 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 2: got consistency at the offensive coordinated position. I like this pick. 653 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 2: I think Jared gov has only trended upward, and unless 654 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: something ridiculous happens, which happens in the NFL, injury or otherwise, 655 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: I like this pick. I think I think I could 656 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 2: see Jared Goff being being voted in MVP because also 657 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: it's one of those awards where we know how this works. 658 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: It's as much how well did you play, but also 659 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: how much steam is on your name. The Detroit Lions 660 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: are a fan favorite. Yeah, everybody roots for their own team. 661 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: But when the field gets whittled and you have to 662 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: pick a likable candidate, don't you like don't you like 663 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: rooting for Dan camp All? I do? 664 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: Yep, I you know, based on the NFL Network's top 665 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: one hundred list, I think with Tyreek Hill knows no 666 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: chance and there's your great Do not bet on a 667 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: non quarterback in this war? 668 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, do not bet. 669 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: On a non court The non quarterback will win the 670 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year. That's the way that this 671 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: award has kind of been diversified. 672 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: Can weesting god je, I was just gonna say, can 673 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: we discuss Jalen Hurts a little bit for a second. Yeah. 674 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore is gonna be the best thing 675 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: that ever happened to Jalen ere. Yeah, that's my prediction. 676 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: You have been saying that. I do think he helps 677 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: goose quarterback stats because he is a little bit of 678 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 2: a guru with the vertical. 679 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: Game they run a fast tempo to more plays, more volume. Yeah, 680 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: I think I think Hurts I put it this way 681 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: where and this could be a good thing, Jared, this 682 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: is not a bad news here. I think there's a 683 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: lot of variance with Jalen Hurts, sure based on bumps 684 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: and bruises and injuries and right like, and so last 685 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: season he absolutely took a step back. You could say, well, 686 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: maybe he was nicked up a little bit more than normal. 687 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: Twenty three touchdowns, fifteen picks. So the thing is, if 688 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: if he's blessed with better health this season, you could 689 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: see an impact on the numbers as well. So it 690 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: could be health little Kellen Moore, little dash of this, 691 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: I agree. And another thing too, to keep in mind 692 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator last year, right like, Philly went through 693 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: the big change after their Super Bowl season, Stichen and 694 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: Gammon offensive and defensive coordinators both left town. The brains 695 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: left town. Nick Sirianni, I think was kind of left 696 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: on an island last year, and it was a difficult situation. 697 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: Right They brought in two very different coordinators this year, 698 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and Vic Vangio. I mean, it feels like 699 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: a lot more maturity is in the coaching suite now, 700 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna have a really positive I'm 701 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: really high on Philly heading in a year I'm down 702 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: on Dallas. I'm really high on Philip. 703 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 2: Give me another reason why that Jalen Hurts is going 704 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: to be much better this year. And I just compared 705 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: to the Tennessee Titans and I know, much lesser quarterback. 706 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: But when did Tannehill look his best in the NFL? 707 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: It was the years that Derrick Henry was going off. 708 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 2: We just looked at him differently. He was like, oh wow, 709 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: he's really a field general out there. You know, he 710 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: can really deliver in a pinch. And then you have 711 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry waiting for the fourth quarter to take over games. Well, 712 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 2: you have Saquon Barkley now Binga and so if in Philly, 713 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: if he stays healthy, what an asset to take the 714 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: pressure off your quarterback with a capable running back playing behind, 715 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: mind you, the best offensive line he's played behind in 716 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: the entirety of his career. So expect big things out 717 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: of Phillies run game. Expect huge things out of Saquon 718 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: park He's the sixth favorite to be Offensive Player of 719 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: the Year. 720 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: It's McCaffrey, Hill, Ceedee, Lamb, Jefferson, Chase than Saquon, right, 721 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: I think that's the bet i'd make. And Offensive Player 722 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: of the Year. I think Bruce Hall is a guy too, 723 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: like I'm I think running back make makes sense in 724 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: this market, you know, especially after what McCaffrey did last year. 725 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet McCaffrey at the top is the favorite. 726 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: Though. 727 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: The funny thing to me is, and we could even 728 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: expand this, I love the Cowboys over nine and a 729 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: half wins. All right, let's go back and forth on 730 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas them love. 731 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 4: Let's have a little let's have a little uh okay 732 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 4: off the Dallas Cowboys. 733 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: I got the nuggets where you might want to chew 734 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: on that you might not know about, you know, okay, 735 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: all right, you know if you're like, guys, stop what 736 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: the sweet barbecue sauce? Try the Mongolian hot sauce. I'm like, okay, fine, 737 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: don't give it a shot. I might not like it 738 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: at all. I might disregard it, but we'll get into that. Also, 739 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: on one hand, it makes sense, but on the other hand, 740 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: it makes no sense. Oh, happy Saturday, good morning to you. 741 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: You smell that do you smell that. I smell disagreement 742 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: in the air. That's what I smell. Okay, Team Jared 743 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: Smith says thumbs down to the twenty twenty four Dallas Cowboys. 744 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: Oh we're getting right into this. Huh yeah, oh yeah. 745 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 1: Team Brian No double thumbs up to America's team over 746 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: nine and a half wins this season. Now here's the thing. 747 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give you a dissertation, all right, just 748 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: a couple of cliffs notes over here. It wasn't too 749 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: long ago I found out there's an s it's cliffs No. Oh, 750 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah notes forever right, Yeah, 751 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: me too, And I googled, googled it, and I was like, 752 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: holy cow right, So I'll give you the cliffs notes 753 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. Listen, I get it. They're not 754 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: a popular team in terms of like, yay Dallas Cowboys, 755 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,479 Speaker 1: Like I want to bet on the Dallas Cowboys. They're 756 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: known for what they don't do well. They crashed and 757 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: burned against the Green Bay Packers in the playoffs. We 758 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: all know that. But here's the thing. The Cowboys, for 759 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: a third straight season, won twelve games. They won twelve 760 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: games for a third straight season. And not only do 761 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: they have Michael Parsons and all those weapons on offense, 762 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: they get tray Von Diggs back. They get a really 763 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: really good cornerback that they didn't have for most of 764 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: the last season. They get him back, and we just 765 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: have to get to ten wins. I'm not saying they're 766 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl bound or anything like that, but we gotta 767 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: get to ten wins. And where's the huge loss. Okay, 768 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: they didn't bulk up in terms of big free agent acquisitions, 769 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: but who did they lose Tony Pollard? Like, who did 770 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: they lose? That's gonna make a big, big difference. I 771 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: don't see it. And so to get to ten wins. 772 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: That by the way, the under is the most popular 773 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: bet on bet MGM. Yeah, that's why I wouldn't bet 774 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: the under, right right. Yeah, That's the thing is if 775 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: you tell me like, hey, is this a popular pick 776 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: taking the over, and it's just like, no, no action, 777 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: it's the most popular pick, you take the under, I'm like, Okay, 778 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm more than sold on the over now, because again, 779 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: you gotta get to ten wins. And the last thing 780 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: I'll say for now is this, right, look at the 781 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Oh, look at the Eagles, ah Man Jalen Hurts, 782 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: look out like the Eagles went ten and one. They 783 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: were just like like Ben Johnson, remember the sprinter Ben 784 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: Johnson out of the Blox, just like a bolt of lightning. 785 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: That was the Eagles last year. And then what happened? 786 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: They sucked though they lose six of their last seven games. 787 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: They got punked by Baker Mayfield and the wild card 788 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. If that were the Dallas Cowboys. Do 789 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: you realize what people would be saying about Dallas right now? 790 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: They start off ten and one and then they just 791 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: absolutely nosedive. They'd even be less of a popular team 792 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: this season, right like betting wise, do they get to 793 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: ten wins? I don't think getting the ten wins is 794 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: too much to ask at all. I love them to 795 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 1: be a double digit win team. 796 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 2: I don't love tying wins to the quarterback position. I 797 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: think there's a little too much weight placed on wins 798 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 2: and losses laying at the feet of a quarterback because 799 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 2: there's so many other things that need to go right 800 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: for a victory to take place. But a quarterback is 801 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 2: an important part and since the Prescott era started in 802 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: Cowboy Land, they're sixty one and thirty six, and a 803 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: lot of those losses actually came when Dak was unavailable 804 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 2: to play at times during his stretch as a starter. 805 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 2: And then you look over at Mike McCarthy. He's got 806 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: a sixty one point four winning percentage, So he's six 807 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: fourteen over the course of his over the course of 808 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: his long tenure as a head coach. That's a better 809 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: winning percentage than Bill Parcells, Chucknoll, Tom Landry, and Bill Walsh, 810 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 2: among other greats. So when you look at the two 811 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 2: most important, arguably the two most important people on a 812 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 2: football team, the head coach and the quarterback, and you 813 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: look at how they've won separate from each other and 814 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: now together, it's hard for me to say, yeah, you know, 815 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys gonna have a down year, because it'll break 816 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 2: the norm. The norm is these not only are these 817 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: two guys winners, but together they've won a lot of 818 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 2: football games. So assuming health, then you always assume health. 819 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 2: I guess when you're placing a bet like this, unless 820 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: you know it's a situation like Kirk Cousins or Aaron 821 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: Rodgers is coming off an Achilles injury and you kind 822 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: of have to factor in some of that. I think 823 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: that the Dallas Cowboys, I feel like the over hits 824 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 2: and the overhits comfortably. 825 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: I do like over nine and a half wins. I 826 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: think that's a good bet because the Cowboys are a 827 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: regular season bully. But here is here are the chinks 828 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: in the armor. Right here is the canary and the 829 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: home line they are. Last year, I think they were 830 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: the one of the most volatile teams in the league. 831 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? There were twenty games 832 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: last year where a team won by twenty eight points 833 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: or more. The Cowboys accounted for six of those games. 834 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: They feasted off of one of the easiest schedules in 835 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: the league Giants twice, Washington twice, Carolina, New England, Jets, Arizona. 836 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: Those are their wins. They went just three and five 837 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: against playoff teams. They don't bring back the defensive genius 838 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: dan Quinn. I think that matters a lot. Mike Zimmers 839 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: pretty good he is, but I think dan Quinn's better. 840 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: And I think the situation that I see here where 841 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: Dallas now plays eight games against the top ten this 842 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: year and seven games against the bottom ten, that is unprecedent. 843 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: It's only a curt fourteen times since two thousand. Where 844 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: a team plays so many good teams and so many 845 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: bad teams, their season will be littered with volatility. I 846 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: don't like what they on the offensive line. They lost 847 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: their best left tackle to the Jets, their starting center, 848 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: best running back Tony Pollards gone. I do think Zeke 849 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: will give them some stability at running back. They'll get 850 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: the tough yards, but I don't see a whole lot 851 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: of explosion at the running back position. I see a 852 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: thin wide receiver group outside of Ceedee Lamb. I just 853 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: I see a lot of very intriguing Hey, this spot 854 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: is really tough. For example, in Week twelve, coming off 855 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: of a Monday night game against Houston in a short 856 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: week on the road in Washington, and the Commanders have 857 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 1: extra rest in that day in that game, Like circle 858 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: that game Week twelve against Washington, because that is a 859 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: really tough spot. Like they have a lot of these 860 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 1: really tricky spots late in the year against tough divisional opponents. Situationally, 861 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: that skew against them. I think Dallas is a bully. 862 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 1: I think they feast on the bad teams and they 863 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: struggle against the good ones. And I think they play 864 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: a lot of good teams this year, including two out 865 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: of their first three at Cleveland versus Baltimore. Like, it's 866 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: just I don't think they're gonna be this thirteen win behemoth. 867 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: Ten wins makes a ton of sense. But super Bowl 868 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: forget it, no shot. They're not even on my list 869 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: of teams that can win the Super Bowl this year. Wow, 870 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: like incapable, incapable, They are not going. There's really only 871 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: like six or seven teams on the list, and they 872 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: are not one of them. Okay, I look at the schedule, 873 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,439 Speaker 1: and I get what you're saying, Jared, But the thing 874 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,959 Speaker 1: that I like about Dallas is again, they've won twelve 875 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: games three seasons in a row, so they're used to 876 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: playing a first place schedule and you get basically three 877 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: games that are different if you compare the schedule among 878 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: your own division. And so the Cowboys have played a 879 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: first play schedule here at least a top schedule first 880 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: or second for a number of years. So I think 881 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 1: a team like not to shift focus completely, I'll bring 882 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: back to the Cowboys here, but think of a team 883 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: like the Houston Texans. Okay, Houston went from worst to first. 884 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: So that's great, but along with that comes a first 885 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: play schedule. 886 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 2: Yep. 887 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: So the Texans, they are three games that were different 888 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: than their divisional opponents. Last year they went with Arizona, 889 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: Denver and at the Jets. Okay, they trade that in 890 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: this year for at Dallas, at the Chiefs, and they 891 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: host Baltimore on Christmas. Like that that could be the 892 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: difference between you're over or under cashing and they're at 893 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: nine and a half wins, just like the Cowboys. I'll 894 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 1: tell you what, the Texans. It seems like there isn't 895 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: a more popular pick right now in the NFL where 896 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: look at CJ. Stroud, Look at this Texans team there 897 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: on the rise. Over you play a first play schedule, 898 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: you might not get to double digits. But back to 899 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Look, yeah, did they lose a little bit here? Okay? 900 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: Fight does it make a mammoth difference? I love this, Jared, Like, 901 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, is Tony Pollard worth 902 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: what half a point? 903 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 2: Like? 904 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: Maybe not even that, you know, so we can't overstate 905 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: like how big of a lgry that is, Like over 906 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: the course of the season, that's not gonna be the 907 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: difference between twelve wins and like ten or nine wins. 908 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, it just isn't. I like Tony Pollard, He's 909 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: just not making that big of a difference. And I 910 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: think that when you look at it's a different bar, 911 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: like the playoff bar, the super Bowl bar, that's completely 912 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: different than getting to ten wins. I think they get 913 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: to ten wins, Brian, I do. 914 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 915 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: I think they're a regular season bully. 916 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 917 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 918 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: And I think it's I think it's a fair bet, 919 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: and I think it's also one of those bets that 920 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: will probably cash. I mean again, so much changes during 921 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 2: the regular season. What if Washington has a renaissance, you 922 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 2: know what I mean, don't. I don't expect that for 923 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: the Giants, but Philadelphia you have high expectations for Jalen 924 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,879 Speaker 2: Hurts the Eagles this year with Kellen Moore as their 925 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Jared so all of a sudden, the division 926 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 2: could get much more tricky for the Cowboys, and things happen. 927 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: You know, even with health, you could get caught a 928 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: couple of times, lose a couple of home games, maybe 929 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: you should win, and then all of a sudden, your 930 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: season prospects look a lot different and you may have 931 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 2: to sweat that bet. But double digits wins in the 932 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: regular season for the Cowboys has been such a consistency 933 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: for them over the course of the past half decade. 934 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like a far cry from what we'll see. 935 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 2: But in terms of playoff success, I don't know. Nothing 936 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 2: motivates me to believe that the Cowboys are gonna all 937 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: of a sudden figure it out, because what's changed magnificently 938 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: in the direction of improvement, you know what I mean 939 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 2: when you look at the roster, when you look at 940 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: the coaching staff, have they made a change or the 941 00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: change now? 942 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: And they did nothing in offseason right right? They got worse. 943 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: They lost their defensive coordinator, who's I think the mastermind 944 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: behind it all. 945 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: Arguably so. And yeah, and and to Brian's point, Mike Zimmer, 946 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: if there's one strength that the Vikings had in that 947 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 2: division in the North for all those years, is they've 948 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 2: they really cobbled together some some pretty astounding defenses with 949 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 2: spare parts sometimes and they created stars on that side 950 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 2: of the ball that very few people respected. Because you know, 951 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins got the moniker of fading and you know, 952 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 2: prime time and all that stuff. So there was a 953 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: lot of that conversation when Mike Zimmer was the head 954 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 2: man over there, and and that sort of went away 955 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 2: when they became a little bit more offensive with Kevin 956 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: O'Connell taking over as the head coach. But Mike Zimmer 957 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 2: good defensive coordinator, so well we'll see. I mean again, 958 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 2: it really is. It feels like we're juggling because you 959 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 2: want to say all these nice things about the Cowboys 960 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: because they got some shiny cars, partly in that garage. 961 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 2: The problem is every time they seem to take them out, 962 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: it's a smooth ride, but if you take a Ferrari 963 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 2: off road, and that's what the playoffs iss. Yeah, all 964 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I mean, they get stuck on top 965 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 2: of a rock and they're like, yeah, I don't know. 966 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the tires aren't touching in the back. 967 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: So we're gonna give you one more nugget here to 968 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 1: chew on. Brian, And I'm curious your thoughts on this. 969 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: Would you agree that turnovers are the most volatile statistic 970 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Very hard to repeat back to back 971 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: a good turnover year. 972 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. 973 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to repeat that last year the defense. The 974 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense ranked number one in the NFL and expected 975 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: points added from turnovers, and they had a record six 976 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns. Excuse me not record. The record was the 977 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: five pick sixes by Deron Bland. The six defensive touchdown 978 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: was league leading. When you filter out the garbage time 979 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: and all those defensive touchdowns, the Cowboys defense was thirty 980 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: first in success rate alout. Like, I think, if they 981 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: can't repeat six defensive touchdowns and all of the variants 982 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: from getting turnovers, their defense is going to take a 983 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,720 Speaker 1: step back this year. And how about this? On first 984 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: down they could not stop the run, dead last in 985 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: success rate last year. Stopping the run on first down again, 986 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: they're a bully number one in the NFL and efficiency 987 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: against bottom ten offenses their defense, but when they face 988 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: the top ten offense last year, their efficiency dropped the 989 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: twenty first again. They play eight teams in the top 990 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: ten this year in terms of the overall rating. Last 991 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: year they went three and five against playoff teams. If 992 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: they go three and five against those eight teams in 993 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: the top ten, that means they've got to go seven 994 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: to two in the other games, or what seven and 995 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 1: two or seven and three on my map might be off. 996 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: They gotta win seven games right to get to ten, 997 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 1: So they better be perfect against those bad teams because 998 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: they play a much more top heavy schedule this year. Okay, 999 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: sometimes you have to read between the lines on stats. 1000 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: You know, our stats can mislead you. You gotta be smarter. 1001 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this directed at you, Jared. I'm just 1002 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: saying the one that caught my attention was the pick six. 1003 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 1: Is Deron Bland went crazy and listen some of those games, 1004 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: instead of winning by two touchdowns, they won by three touchdowns, 1005 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, this wasn't a pick 1006 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: six in the final two minutes and they won the 1007 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: game by one point, you know. So that's one thing. 1008 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: And the other part of this is you get Trayvon 1009 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: Diggs back. That's a big, big benefit to your defense. 1010 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, you lose dan Quinn as a defensive coordinator. 1011 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,760 Speaker 1: But which would you rather have if you're being fully honest, 1012 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: would you rather have dan Quinn back there and still 1013 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: no Trayvon Diggs or would you rather have Mike Zimmer 1014 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: and Trayvon Diggs. I still think you're coming out ahead 1015 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: as the Dallas Cowboys getting digs back. That's how good 1016 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: of a cornerback he is. And I think, going back 1017 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: to your point, rich Man, I could talk about the 1018 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys all day. 1019 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: They turned out crazy. Yeah. 1020 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love what you're saying about the on road 1021 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: versus off road thing metaphor. It's really good because the Cowboys, 1022 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,959 Speaker 1: when you get to the playoffs and you go off 1023 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: road the Ferrari, it doesn't perform very well. But the 1024 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: mistake that some are making is they're acting like the 1025 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: regular season is the off road course and it isn't 1026 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: compared to the playoffs. It's not. And the Cowboys as 1027 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: a Ferrari, they have performed at a high high level 1028 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: on the regular season race course. They have, so I 1029 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: don't know why would be downgrading them as if this 1030 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: is off road and the playoff course when it isn't. 1031 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: Right Like they're going over nine and a half wins 1032 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get bounced in the first round of 1033 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, that's one hundred percent of how the 1034 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: script is going for the Cowboys. 1035 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 2: Last thing I'll say is the last time the Cowboys 1036 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 2: were really successful was when they were they were such 1037 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 2: bullies and they were so tough upfront on the offensive 1038 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 2: and defensive line. You remember those teams in the nineties, 1039 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 2: if you were alive for it, yep, they ran the 1040 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 2: football down your neck. They they stopped. I mean, you 1041 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 2: didn't have a run game. And then they had talent 1042 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: on the edges. So if you did try to throw 1043 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 2: it over the top, I mean, good luck, good luck. 1044 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 2: It was. It was a defense and an offensive line, 1045 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 2: especially during those days where they they really built it 1046 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 2: the right way. In fact, I'll make the comparison the 1047 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 2: way that Dallas Cowboys were built back in the nineties 1048 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 2: is how the current day San Francisco forty nine ers 1049 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 2: have built their team. Now, the San Francisco forty nine 1050 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: ers have suffered significant losses on their offensive line. 1051 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're all line is not that good? Rich 1052 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: yeahs offenses. Their offensive line is really bad. 1053 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah they've they've they've really I think. 1054 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 1: The Lions are better a better comparison to how they're 1055 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: actually Cowboys are. 1056 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's actually a better comparison. Right now. The 1057 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 2: way the Niners used to be is the comparison. The 1058 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 2: way the Detroit Lions are built up now is the comparison. 1059 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 2: Because they've made a commitment to building from the inside out. 1060 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 2: And it's a beautiful thing because that is that is Look, 1061 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 2: it's I'll say it all the all day long. It 1062 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 2: is a passing game, don't get me wrong, Like this 1063 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: is a passing league. If you don't have a at 1064 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 2: very least a solid quarterback and good receivers, you're not 1065 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 2: gonna win very many football games. But you do need 1066 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: to pay attention to the line of scrimmage because if 1067 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 2: you don't, you'll lose sight of how these quarterbacks are protected, 1068 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 2: how you do stop the run, and also having a 1069 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 2: run game yourself because it balances your offense. And and 1070 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 2: that's where the Dallas Cowboys have fallen down. To me, 1071 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: there's no commitment to the run with Mike McCarthy. To me, 1072 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 2: it's it's all about stopping the passer and those interception 1073 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 2: and uh iron t pick six is that's great and 1074 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 2: and it's a feast or famine stat like you pointed out, Jared. 1075 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 2: But that's the reason why when you get to the postseason, 1076 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 2: they the flame starts to flicker because the consistency goes away. 1077 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: Offensive line too, So what are the two most important 1078 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: positions on the offensive line? Rich left tackle and center. Yep, 1079 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: left tackle rookie this year for the Cowboys. Tyler Geiton, 1080 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: center gone brock k Hoffman who's never started before, new 1081 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: starting center and at the receiver position right we love 1082 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. Behind him is thirty year old Brandon Cooks, 1083 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: who barely had seven hundred yards. I think last year 1084 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: Man and then Jalen Tolbert. I don't love the prospects 1085 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: of what Dallas did in the offseason. I don't think 1086 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: they got better. I think they're the same team, and 1087 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say they're gonna win ten 1088 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: or eleven games in the regular season. But I don't 1089 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: think this team has a championship pedigree at all. They 1090 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: never know. I this is the last thing real fast 1091 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: is I get it what you said about left tackle 1092 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: and the center right there, But hey man, sometimes rookies 1093 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: come in and they are productive. I think it's a 1094 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: mistake to act like no. Look at Rayshawn Slater with 1095 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers. He hit the ground running like Joe Walt 1096 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: might be fantastic with the Chargers. 1097 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 2: This. 1098 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler Geiden might be great. I agree, he might 1099 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: be great. 1100 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 2: We don't know. 1101 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: I know Terren Smith was fantastic, although he was getting 1102 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: up there in age. I think the Cooks thing will 1103 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: be intriguing, Like if they lose Ced Lamb for any 1104 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: significant period of time and he's gotten hurt before, you 1105 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: have Brandon Cooks at your number one receiver position. Okay, 1106 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: we gotta go. We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, 1107 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian know. Okay, I've 1108 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: got three beefs. Okay, we got to find out if 1109 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Rich and Jared if I'm gonna have a winning record 1110 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: with agreement over here. Okay, I'm trying to get to 1111 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: two and one with both of them who are on 1112 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: board with my beefs. We'll see if I can do 1113 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: that successfully. It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on 1114 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday right here 1115 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio are thanks to Rapid Radios, the 1116 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: official communication device of Fox Sports Radio. Rapid Radios are 1117 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: instant push to talk walkie talkies, offering national LTE coverage 1118 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: and no subscription or monthly fee. Business owners can keep 1119 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: in touch with up to two hundred staff at one time, 1120 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: and it's a great alternative to a mobile phone for 1121 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: your kids. Go to rapid Radios dot com now for 1122 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: sixty percent off and free shipping ad code radio and 1123 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: get an extra five percent off. Okay. So I've got 1124 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: beefs over here. Okay, I've got three of them, and 1125 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I want to see if I can get honest approval. Okay, 1126 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: honest approval, not like yeah, sure, sure, no, sure, I'll 1127 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: go along with that. Now I went honesty over here. 1128 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it your way. But we were quite 1129 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: long winded. We were gas bags in the first segment. 1130 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,919 Speaker 1: It's time to work Isaac Lohan Kron into the four 1131 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: man weave over it here right away, and I will 1132 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: get you beef number one first though, the great Isaac 1133 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Lowan Kron. 1134 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 5: Who's with us here, always great to be their precise 1135 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 5: when I'm needed. And we start at the Olympics as 1136 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 5: we speak. In the US women's soccer team in a 1137 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 5: tough battle right now in its quarter final match against Japan. 1138 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 5: They remain scoreless. They are now in the seventy second 1139 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 5: minute in the second half. 1140 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1141 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 5: The US men's basketball team will take on Puerto Rico 1142 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 5: coming up at eleven to fifteen Eastern time this morning. 1143 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 5: Some forty five minutes from now in its final game 1144 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 5: of group play. Team USA two to zero has already 1145 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 5: clinched a spot in the quarterfinals. Drew Holiday will not 1146 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 5: play in this game because of an ankle injury. In 1147 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 5: Major League Baseball, on Friday night, Blake Snell of the 1148 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 5: San Francisco Giants pitched a no hitter in a three 1149 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 5: to nothing win at Cincinnati. It was the third no 1150 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 5: hitter in the majors this year. He struck out eleven 1151 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 5: walk three through one hundred and fourteen pitches. It was 1152 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 5: the first complete game of his major league career. Twins 1153 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 5: over the White Sox ten to two. The White Sox 1154 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 5: now in an eighteen game losing streak, A's held off 1155 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 5: the Dodgers six y five, despite Shohey O'tani's thirty third 1156 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 5: home run. Finally, NFL media reported a short time ago 1157 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 5: that Arizona Cardinals pass rusher at bj Ojulari tore his 1158 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 5: ACL and practice on Friday. O Julari had four sacks 1159 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 5: last year during his rookie campaign of twenty twenty three. 1160 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 5: Fellas back to you. 1161 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Thank You, I Low. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right 1162 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Kind of this is weird, 1163 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 1: like great timing. I low mentioning that, and I hate 1164 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 1: that for bj O Julari going down in practice. But 1165 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing, this is beef number one for me. 1166 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: All Right, You've got these players in the NFL that 1167 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: are getting hurt in practice. 1168 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 2: Right. 1169 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Titans wide receiver, he's out for four to 1170 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: six weeks. Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith he had to undergo 1171 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: tests for knee and hip injuries. He got banged up 1172 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: in practice. Should be okay, isn't expected to miss any time, 1173 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: although he did miss two practices. And I just started 1174 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: thinking about all these injuries, and it's funny to me 1175 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 1: because football listen, players get hurt in practice. I don't 1176 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 1: know why we're acting like preseason games are like juggling 1177 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: steak knives, you know what I mean. Like nobody is 1178 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: sitting here saying, oh, don't practice, it's too risky. You 1179 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: want to be healthy for the regular season. Right, So, 1180 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: on one hand, I get it, you don't want to 1181 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: take an additional risk with a player going down. Okay, fine, 1182 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: But in certain cases like Aaron Rodgers he's gotten four 1183 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: snaps with the Jets, He's like, put me in, coach, 1184 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: give me some preseason reps. Hereies ready to go, and 1185 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Sala's like, nah, no, my gut feeling he shouldn't be 1186 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: out there. Caleb Williams, Daisy fresh rookie with the Bears. 1187 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: You can't get him a series or two, especially a quarterback, 1188 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Like what are the chances that he gets banged up 1189 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and he's missing significant time because of a preseason injury. 1190 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 1: So I don't get it. 1191 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 2: Man. 1192 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: Players get hurt in practice, they get hurt in joint practices, 1193 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: they're not held out of that. But when it comes 1194 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to the preseason games, it's like, oh, no, death defying 1195 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: stunt if you even think about going out there. I 1196 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 1: got a beef with certain players not getting any reps 1197 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: in the preseason. I don't think it's a smart approach. 1198 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. I think that 1199 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 2: the only way to get better at something, truly get 1200 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: better at something, is by taking live reps at it. 1201 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it doesn't matter what it is. 1202 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't care. If you are an accountant and you 1203 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: talked about tax season and a bunch of classes at 1204 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 2: your university, you have no idea what the late nights 1205 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 2: are going to look like until you have your first April, 1206 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, or based on extensions, your your first October. 1207 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: You know. 1208 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 2: I mean like it's it's gonna be a couple of rough, 1209 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: really rough weeks that nobody can prepare you for. I 1210 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 2: mean in football, it's the same thing. I mean, nobody 1211 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 2: can prepare you for the speed of the game when 1212 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 2: the bullets are flying for and it's something that every 1213 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: player needs. It's something that every player desires, frankly, to 1214 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 2: have real live reps so that you can start to 1215 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 2: quell some of the nervousness of being new at something, 1216 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 2: so you can knock a little bit of the shine 1217 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 2: off of the the the bumper, right, you know what 1218 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 2: I mean. You don't want to go out there and, 1219 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 2: like you said, being shiny, new daisy fresh, because if 1220 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 2: you're not battle tested, you have no idea what battle 1221 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 2: feels like. How can you go hit you know, the 1222 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 2: field of play and expect to have any sort of results. 1223 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 2: So I agree with you, however, and I know you 1224 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: will understand this too, Brian. This is a business decision, yep. 1225 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 2: The investment that these teams making these players, and the 1226 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 2: amount of money that swirls around endorsement and advertising opportunities 1227 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 2: tied to the teams tied to these players. You know, 1228 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 2: fantasy football general mat all across the world, won all 1229 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 2: of these healthy players ready for the start of the season. 1230 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 2: If they go down during training camp, it doesn't do 1231 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 2: anybody any favors, or preseason doesn't do anybody any favors. 1232 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 2: So to me, that's this is the intersection of business 1233 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 2: and sport, and business is winning in these conversations. 1234 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I agree that they should play in the preseason. Brian, 1235 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 1: I agree hundred percent with your take. So you got 1236 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 1: both of us on board for ree Go. I think yeah. 1237 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, especially with Caleb Williams. I mean, he's 1238 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: a rookie. 1239 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 2: I get it. 1240 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 1: With Aaron Rodgers, he's coming off of and Kelly's injury. 1241 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,919 Speaker 1: He's forty one years old, he played a million preseasons. 1242 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, especially as a Jets fan, like 1243 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: rap this dude in tin foil, bubble rap and just 1244 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, stash him until that Niners game in Week one. 1245 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 1: But for Caleb Williams, there's zero excuse for him not 1246 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: to play in the preseason. 1247 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 2: Now. 1248 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna know. I know he 1249 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: didn't play the other night. I don't know if he's 1250 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 1: not gonna play any entire preseason, if that's been announced yet, 1251 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 1: But if he is not going to play in the 1252 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: entire preseason, Like, how can you justify that in any way? 1253 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't understand he's never taken 1254 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 1: a snap in the NFL. You want his first snap 1255 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 1: to be Week one, in his first real game. That 1256 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense to me. And I know, I 1257 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: think there was another team that did this last year 1258 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,799 Speaker 1: with their rookies. I forget which one with the rookie quarterback. 1259 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,720 Speaker 1: It might have been CJ's DRD. It might have been 1260 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Brice Young one of those teams. It wasn't I remember 1261 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: it Wasn't he played in the preseason. I remember there 1262 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,719 Speaker 1: was one quarterback rookie who did not play in the preseason. 1263 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Like this makes no sense? And the 1264 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 1: injury thing matters, And I agree with you, Rich, like 1265 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 1: the business side of it matters, But you gotta have experience, 1266 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Like you can't just walk in to the league Week 1267 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 1: one and expect to be good. Like I think the 1268 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 1: preseason is only three games. I think the rookies should 1269 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 1: be playing in the preseason. All Okay, here's beef number two, 1270 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: and I liked that you guys are on board with 1271 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: team over great start. Now, I don't want to lead 1272 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:02,440 Speaker 1: the witnesses, but I feel I feel like impending agreement 1273 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: might be in the air. Okay, So last night there 1274 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 1: was a no hitter throne Blake Snell, San Francisco Giants pitcher. 1275 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: He no hit the Reds. He had never gotten into 1276 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 1: the ninth inning before in his career, which is amazing 1277 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: to me. So one hundred and fourteen pitches, and it 1278 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: got me thinking of the previous no hitter. Rich your 1279 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: guy Dylan sees over there with the Padres, he no 1280 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 1: hit the Nationals a little over a week ago. One 1281 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen pitches. As far as I know, his 1282 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,839 Speaker 1: arm has not fallen off yet. Okay, it's still attached. 1283 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 1: And there was a seventy six minute rain delay and 1284 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: the guy still went back out there and threw a no. 1285 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:44,600 Speaker 2: No. 1286 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it just gets me thinking about our guy, 1287 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Paul Skeins. Okay, ninety nine pitches at Milwaukee. He didn't 1288 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: allow a hit through seven innings, and they said it's 1289 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 1: too risky, we can't get this guy out here, even 1290 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: though he's a freaking bald. I don't know why. I 1291 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 1: really don't. I don't know why we're acting like a 1292 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 1: high pitch count is automatically awful. Okay, I get that 1293 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: you want to play it safe with Paul Skeins. He 1294 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 1: looks to be a phenom. But on the other hand, 1295 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why teams are just petrified to, like, oh, 1296 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: triple digit pitches. Yikes, there are alarms, there are bells 1297 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: going off. It's like, eh, eh, no, no, like you've 1298 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: seen other pictures do this and they're freaking fine. 1299 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:35,799 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 1300 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 1: We're acting like it's automatically an awful thing. 1301 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 2: I look, I certainly don't. I think it's great when 1302 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 2: you see a picture throw a complete game. I think 1303 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 2: it's great when you see a picture stay in on 1304 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 2: a no hitter? How many pitchers. It's a headline every 1305 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 2: time it happens. But that headline has happened a lot 1306 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 2: more recently. That a pitcher gets tugged out of a 1307 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 2: game after seven innings throwing a no hitter. I mean 1308 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 2: that happens multiple times a year. Now, rewind the clock 1309 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 2: ten years ago, wouldn't happen not once. A pitcher would 1310 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 2: rather saw off a tow than allow you to take 1311 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 2: him off the mound while he's in the middle of 1312 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 2: pitching a no hitter. It's something that only three hundred 1313 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,080 Speaker 2: and eighty plus people have ever done in the history 1314 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 2: of a sport that's been around for almost two hundred years. 1315 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's silly what we're seeing out there, 1316 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 2: like putting. Don't get me wrong, longevity is important, durability 1317 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 2: is important, but the whole reason why you participate in 1318 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,759 Speaker 2: sports is to do great things, to strive for greatness. 1319 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 2: And yes, team sports, team goals are important, but also 1320 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 2: individual goals are important too. And I feel like a 1321 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 2: lot of these teams have made up their mind that 1322 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 2: they know better for the athlete than the athlete does, 1323 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 2: and as a result, they have robbed a lot of 1324 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,759 Speaker 2: these athletes of quality, experience that they could be chasing 1325 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,639 Speaker 2: after an and honestly, greatness that they could be chasing 1326 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 2: down individually. I don't know how the rest of the 1327 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,759 Speaker 2: season is going to go for Dylan Sees, but riding 1328 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,400 Speaker 2: high off the emotion of throwing a no hitter in 1329 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 2: a season gives you a level of confidence that has 1330 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 2: to be otherworldly, you know what I mean. Doing something 1331 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 2: that separates you from the rest of baseball history, something 1332 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 2: that spans the test of time, has to make you 1333 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 2: feel pretty special. So don't tell me that trading in 1334 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 2: you know, just it's just a couple of reps during 1335 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 2: the preseason. What is it hurt? And also we're preventing injury. 1336 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, okay, but maybe something magical happens during 1337 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 2: a preseason game. And you may laugh at that if 1338 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 2: you want to, but I'm telling you right now, as 1339 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 2: young player getting my first snaps in preseason games, there 1340 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 2: was something magical happening. I was having the pinch me 1341 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 2: moments where it's like, oh my god, I did it. 1342 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,799 Speaker 2: I'm playing professional football. 1343 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 1: I'm out. 1344 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm in the NFL. Like, you have to get over 1345 01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 2: that at some point and have it not be so 1346 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 2: so you can go out there and perform the way 1347 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 2: he did during college, the way he did during high school. 1348 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 2: That got you that point. But there's a lot to 1349 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 2: take in as a rookie. So give these guys an 1350 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 2: opportunity to get that out of the way in the 1351 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 2: preseason so they're not having a pitch be music moment 1352 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,839 Speaker 2: when Micah Parsons is screaming off the edge and hacking 1353 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 2: at their right shoulder as they're trying to deliver a football. 1354 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Come a long way from the last football building right right, oh, 1355 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. That's a little state college university 1356 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 1: park inside joke there, All right, let's get to Skeens. 1357 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: So the Skeens thing I A grew through bright I 1358 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,680 Speaker 1: think a hundred pitches. It should not be this like 1359 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 1: magical number that that thou shall not pass. In the 1360 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Skien scenario, in that no hitter, it was actually Skeens 1361 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: that took himself out. He said I'm out of gas, 1362 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 1: and and and he and in that scenario, if the 1363 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: pitcher is going up to the guy to the coaches 1364 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, I'm out of gas, yes, take 1365 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: them out. I mean, that's that's like no brainer to me. 1366 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: But in general, one hundred pitches should not be this 1367 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 1: like magical line like. It should be how stressful those 1368 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: pitches are, and how the pitcher's feeling. Like if the 1369 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 1: picture says he's got more gas in the tank, let 1370 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: him go out and start and pitch another inning. The 1371 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,639 Speaker 1: problem is these pitchers are now kind of trained mentally, 1372 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: it's like a mental thing. And I can relate to 1373 01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: this now because I started a running routine and it's 1374 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 1: all mental with me. If I know before I start 1375 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: my run, I'm gonna go this far and I get 1376 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 1: to that point, that's it, my body stops because it's 1377 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: like I reached it and I'm done. And these pictures, 1378 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,599 Speaker 1: I think, are kind of trained now to go one 1379 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 1: hundred pitches and that's it. Their bodies just kind of 1380 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: shut down because that's what the training has implemented. Here 1381 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: are the numbers though, when the complete games, because you 1382 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: guys were curious about it. So this year there have 1383 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,639 Speaker 1: been twenty two complete games, which is not a lot. 1384 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 1: Last year there were thirty four, also not a lot. 1385 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 1: For perspective, Bob Gibson in nineteen sixty eight through twenty 1386 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: eight complete games in thirty five stole. So just for perspective, 1387 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: we have had less complete games this year than Bob 1388 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Gibson through the entire season in nineteen sixty eight. That's wow. Yeah, 1389 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 1: I know, I know times have changed. 1390 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 1391 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Some of it does make sense, but I think when 1392 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: you take it to the extreme right, like it's load 1393 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 1: management in the NBA, I get that a little dabble 1394 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: here and there. When you take it to the extreme, 1395 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,839 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now now we're getting a little crazy 1396 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 1: with this. So yeah, I don't know, man, I think 1397 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 1: that the pitch count thing it can be. I just 1398 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,559 Speaker 1: don't like it when people are like, this is gonna 1399 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: be Strasbourg all over again. It's gonna be de Gram 1400 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: if we get to triple digits. That to me, the 1401 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 1: panic alarms are a little bit too loud at that point. 1402 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,920 Speaker 1: But we've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared 1403 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 1: Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No coming up next, 1404 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,479 Speaker 1: we get to mail bonding time over here. Okay, the 1405 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: prop bet market. We'll get to beef number three. Yeah, 1406 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 1: next beef, you know, and then there's gonna be on 1407 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 1: board with the final beef. I'm not sure to and oh, 1408 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 1: so far it's a good start. We'll see if we 1409 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,640 Speaker 1: can go undefeated in prop bets this week. That's the 1410 01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 1: real test that is on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday, 1411 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 1: right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, 1412 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, we got some 1413 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: prop bets to make. Let's dive into this. 1414 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 3: Prop it up player plays. 1415 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: All right, Jared, we start with you. What do you 1416 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: like today? Well, I'm gonna take a page out of 1417 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: your book here being no Cardinals action. Kyle Gibson on 1418 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 1: the mound today for Saint Louis. Big game against the Cubs. 1419 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Cardinal's kind of given a couple back in the standings lately. 1420 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 1: Tough game yesterday. I think Kyle Gibson goes deep into 1421 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,280 Speaker 1: this game today. I'm going over sixteen and a half outs. 1422 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 1: He's actually been better on the road this year. He's 1423 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 1: gone over this in seven out of ten away games 1424 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: this year, including his one road start at Wrigley back 1425 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 1: in June three. One era on the road, and the 1426 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals bullpen again yesterday didn't get really a deep start. 1427 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I think the bullpen is a little bit weary after 1428 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,080 Speaker 1: this little stretch that we've seen here where they haven't 1429 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 1: had many days off, and I think we get a 1430 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals push from Kyle Gibson today. Over sixteen and a 1431 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 1: half outs at Wrigleyfield. 1432 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Team USA facing Puerto Rico in just minutes here, 1433 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant fifteen and a half points. I'm taking the under. 1434 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 2: I just don't see a lot of the key players, 1435 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 2: especially one that sustained an injury early in the Olympics goings. 1436 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 2: He missed all the exhibitions for Team USA, staying on 1437 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 2: the floor very long against a team that Team USA 1438 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 2: is favored by thirty five points US to beat. So 1439 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 2: I got Kadi going under the fifteen and a half points. 1440 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 2: I think he gets pulled off the court before he 1441 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 2: gets there. 1442 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, all right, I'm looking at some guy named 1443 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Okay, never heard of it. Yeah, who's so 1444 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 1: he was bad? Actually, if you can believe that he 1445 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,600 Speaker 1: was bad last game, and I think, man was he 1446 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: over over from three? So I'm looking at him to 1447 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 1: rebound over here. Right the last game against South sud Dan, 1448 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 1: if you look at Steph from three point range, he 1449 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,320 Speaker 1: was oho for six. He was one for nine from 1450 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 1: the field with only three points. So it's crept up. 1451 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to go along with the public 1452 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: over here, all right, taking on Puerto Rico, Steph Curry 1453 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: over two and a half three pointers. The juice were 1454 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: at minus one fifty five right now at BENMGM. It 1455 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: is crept up. But I think in a game like this, 1456 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 1: the US just for context, their team total it's set 1457 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: at one twelve and a half. Okay, they're gonna be 1458 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 1: scoring some points against Puerto Rico. And for a guy 1459 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,759 Speaker 1: like Steph Curry, who was bad, not just for his standards, 1460 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 1: just bad in general, oh for six from three last game, 1461 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: I look for him to rebound in a big way 1462 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: and his teammates know that. Right, You're gonna see his 1463 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,000 Speaker 1: teammates set him up and get him some open quality looks. 1464 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 1: I look for Steph Curry to bang at least three 1465 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 1: three pointers today, as Rich said, just in a matter 1466 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 1: of minutes over here against Puerto Rico. Yeah, I think 1467 01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: I might lay it against Puerto Rico to the thirty 1468 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: three and a half points. Puerto Rico has lost by 1469 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 1: forty to Serbia, who the US handled pretty easily the 1470 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 1: other day too, so that'll be an interesting one coming 1471 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,759 Speaker 1: about fifty minutes. How about Jack Flarity making his Dodgers 1472 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: debut tonight, Guys, any vibes on Flarity. I think we 1473 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,560 Speaker 1: go over on outs. I think we go over on strikeouts. 1474 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't think this A's team is kind of I mean, 1475 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 1: I think their offense actually has been a little bit 1476 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: better lately. But they're a high strikeout team and they 1477 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 1: don't take a ton of pitches. About middle of the 1478 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: pack in all of those categories. And again we get 1479 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 1: a guys starting with a new team. He's gonna want 1480 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,639 Speaker 1: to put his best foot forward. I think this Dodgers bullpen, 1481 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 1: which we have detailed, has been an absolute disaster. They 1482 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 1: might get a little bit better now with Kopek in 1483 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: the mix, but just a really rough season for the 1484 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 1: Dodgers bullpen. I think over seventeen and a half outs, right, 1485 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: that's six innings. I think over five and a half strikeouts. 1486 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 1: If you can find a good numb, we're there to 1487 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: get the six. I think those will be the ways 1488 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: I play Flarty tonight. 1489 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 2: A's are a bad team. They don't have a lot 1490 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 2: of quality hitters. Like you said, the offense has been 1491 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 2: a little bit better, but the reality of the situation 1492 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 2: is swing away. What do you got to lose? So 1493 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of swing and misses out there. Yeah. 1494 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 1: Man, there are a lot of baseball trends that you 1495 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 1: could look at in the prop bet market, you know, 1496 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 1: like the Phillies are just ice cold right now. After 1497 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,760 Speaker 1: the All Star break, maybe you look to some mariners 1498 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 1: pitching props when it comes to that. But you can 1499 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 1: take advantage of those team trends individually. All right, coming 1500 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: up next time, adjusting. Good morning, Happy Saturday to you. 1501 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The only bad thing about Team 1502 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,720 Speaker 1: USA about to take the court and Olympic hoops right 1503 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,600 Speaker 1: now is that I got to switch it off a 1504 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 1: gold zone. My gold zone is amazing. 1505 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 2: Well, there's the. 1506 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 1: USA Japan women's soccer match, really good too, right now? 1507 01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: Neil nil extra time. I'm all about the box of 1508 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 1: gold zone and they got a hit over there. I 1509 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 1: don't know how you guys feel about red zone. I 1510 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:06,120 Speaker 1: hate it. 1511 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm not. 1512 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm like maybe the only person ever saying this where 1513 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: I need to be my own red zone. Okay, I 1514 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: need all the games in front of me, and I'll 1515 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,080 Speaker 1: choose what I what I would have watched, right, I'll 1516 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 1: watch this driving. Yes, I need to be my own 1517 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: red zone. But gold zone for the Olympics and we've 1518 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: got It's crazy. I took a screenshot of this. I 1519 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 1: couldn't believe what was going on just a few minutes ago. 1520 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 1: You have at the same time, and they show it 1521 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: in one screen. Judo road, cycling, gymnastics, badminton, water polo, boxing, tennis, soccer. Boom, 1522 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 1: there you go, eight at once. So yeah, I got 1523 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: to hone in on one. I'm all about Team USA basketball, 1524 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 1: you know me. Oops is my second favorite sport. I'm 1525 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,680 Speaker 1: all over it. 1526 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 2: I look at the space that we're in right now, 1527 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 2: and I can't tell you how much I'm clamoring for 1528 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 2: football that matter. I know. I like the taste we got. 1529 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 2: I mean it was like a morsel. It was a 1530 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 2: bread crumb that rolled off the table and it rolled 1531 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 2: close enough to the little mousehole cut out of the 1532 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 2: base board and I was able just to reach my 1533 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 2: arm out far enough not to get noticed by the 1534 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 2: house cat who was sleeping in the corner. I grabbed 1535 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 2: it and I was like, no numb. 1536 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 1: And then the game, Oh no, I did it. 1537 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 2: There was a weather delay, severe weather in the area, 1538 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 2: see cover. 1539 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 1: That's what they said in Canton. 1540 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, when that happened, I 1541 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,599 Speaker 2: legitimately sat there and I went, well, I'm sad now 1542 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,560 Speaker 2: because it was just a taste. It wasn't enough, but 1543 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 2: it was. I'm telling you, we are. We are on 1544 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 2: the doorstep of inarguably one of the most interesting college 1545 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 2: football seasons we will ever participate in. This is going 1546 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,840 Speaker 2: to be bonkers. I mean, think about the ramifications of 1547 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 2: some of the offseason movement in college football and then 1548 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,680 Speaker 2: just try to digest what we're about to embark on. 1549 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 2: It's mind bending. UCLA and USC are in the Big ten. 1550 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 2: Let's just start there, and then the list goes on. 1551 01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 2: It's mind bending. And then you talk about the NFL. 1552 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 2: So many young quarterbacks who are having early success. There's 1553 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 2: already storylines about injuries everywhere you look. There's things. There's 1554 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 2: six draft picks at the quarterback position taken in the 1555 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 2: top twelve. There's coaches who are coaching for their lives. 1556 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,839 Speaker 2: There are quarterbacks who are playing for their careers. Kirk Cousins, 1557 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,280 Speaker 2: for example, coming off in Achilles, has a lot to 1558 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 2: prove this year in Atlanta because there's a top ten 1559 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,799 Speaker 2: pick waiting in the wings to take his job, Aaron Rodgers. 1560 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 2: He wants to win two Super Bowls with the New 1561 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 2: York Jets and he hasn't even played a snap yet. Basically, 1562 01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it is bananas. I can't wait, so sorry, 1563 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,759 Speaker 2: I haven't really checked in on Goal. 1564 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 1: TV yet, Oh you're missing out. You're missing out. I 1565 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,680 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time for it, but when 1566 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 1: I do have time, it's been entertaining and I'm with 1567 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm with Rich. I'm let's can we start football season? 1568 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Like now, let's go okay, So you know, I'm gonna 1569 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 1: give Rich some cat nep over here based on that 1570 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:18,719 Speaker 1: last week. 1571 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 2: Sorry, you know, sorry, alright, So. 1572 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 1: It's okay, it's all right. You know you want ball, 1573 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 1: give you ball here. So I saw this updated commercial, 1574 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, the Big ten maps commercial. Yeah, this might 1575 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 1: refresh your memory if you're like, what is that? 1576 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 3: Right? 1577 01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,640 Speaker 1: And they just show the map of where all these 1578 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 1: Big ten schools are located, and it's you know, it's 1579 01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 1: got a graphic going on there. 1580 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 2: Movie. I like it. 1581 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,760 Speaker 1: It's a good one. So that by the way, it's 1582 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 1: a song called silver Lining by Guards if you're interested 1583 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 1: in that sort of thing. But that's the song that 1584 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 1: they've used for a while on that maps ad. And 1585 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 1: they added, like Rich said, the four schools, right, we 1586 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:13,679 Speaker 1: got Oregon, Washington, USC, UCLA officially in the Big ten. 1587 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 1: Now there are eighteen teams, eighteen schools in the Big ten. 1588 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 1: Whatever that's college football defined right now, none of it 1589 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,720 Speaker 1: makes any sense whatsoever. But the question after seeing that 1590 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: maps commercial updated and where they show like all these 1591 01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 1: teams on the West coast and then they make their 1592 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,600 Speaker 1: way back to the Midwest and the East coast, the 1593 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,760 Speaker 1: question that popped into my head was is it going 1594 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,959 Speaker 1: to be a tougher transition for the four new schools 1595 01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,640 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten or the twelve existing schools in 1596 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,639 Speaker 1: the Big Ten having to go out west and play 1597 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:54,840 Speaker 1: these teams. You could look at it thirty seven different ways, 1598 01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 1: but I think when you look at the Big Boys, 1599 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: that's what I hone in on the most. I think 1600 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tougher adjustment for the top teams 1601 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: of the existing twelve where Ohio State they gotta go 1602 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 1: to Oregon, and there are some games like that where 1603 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at Michigan and it's like, oh wow, you 1604 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: gotta play a tough a couple of these tough games 1605 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 1: where Michigan they host USC, they host Oregon, Like those 1606 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 1: are the new schools they're at Washington, so they get 1607 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: three of these new schools in the Big Ten. I 1608 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 1: actually think it's gonna be a tougher test for the 1609 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 1: existing twelve adapting to the new four than the other 1610 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 1: way around. 1611 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,719 Speaker 2: That's interesting, that's an interesting take. I really haven't flipped 1612 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 2: it around yet. It really is, you know what, And 1613 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 2: an argument could be made for either. I mean, logistically, 1614 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,320 Speaker 2: it's just as much strain on any of the existing 1615 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 2: twelve than it would be for the incoming four. You know, 1616 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,720 Speaker 2: you think about the volatility of playing against teams that 1617 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 2: you don't know. Yeah, there's a lot to be said 1618 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 2: about that now, I mean against conference opponents. After years 1619 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:12,560 Speaker 2: of playing against similar faces, your your players get a 1620 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 2: better feel for the scouting report. So that's the edge 1621 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 2: that you know, current teams will have as opposed to 1622 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,800 Speaker 2: incoming teams coming to a conference. But but and and 1623 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 2: coaching too. I mean obviously coaches, you know, value a 1624 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,360 Speaker 2: scouting report and in person from the sideline review of 1625 01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,679 Speaker 2: what happens during those games. But but yeah, yeah, that's 1626 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 2: that's that's a pretty good way to do this. Flip 1627 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 2: it on its head and see see, you know, wear 1628 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 2: the shoes on the other feet and say, yeah, yeah, 1629 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,759 Speaker 2: how comfortable is it going to be? For for example, 1630 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 2: you know one of these Northeast teams or you know, 1631 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,600 Speaker 2: a team out of Ohio, or Michigan to travel all 1632 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,440 Speaker 2: the way to southern California. It's going to be an adjustment. 1633 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 1: It is going to be an adjustment. And I'll say 1634 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: what else is a big adjustment is the travel. Yeah, 1635 01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,799 Speaker 1: And it's one thing for football to go through the travel, 1636 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,720 Speaker 1: which is intense, really intense and rich. 1637 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 2: You know this. I know this. 1638 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: I worked in division on football programs behind the scenes. 1639 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 1: You have to basically ship an entire equipment room across 1640 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: the country and most of the time you're driving it. 1641 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: Unless you're playing Hawaii, then obviously you can't drive. And 1642 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 1: I remember when I worked at FAU, the equipment truck 1643 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 1: would leave like three days before the game. And that 1644 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,640 Speaker 1: was when they were playing teams that were in the 1645 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 1: relative region that they were in. This was when I 1646 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: worked at FAU, when they were in the Sun Belt Conference, 1647 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,200 Speaker 1: so we played like Westerntonucky and Middle Tennessee and like 1648 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 1: those types of teams. So they have to drive all 1649 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 1: the way up to Tennessee from Boca Rato. It's a 1650 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 1: long drive. Now you're going from Washington to Rutgers and 1651 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if they play at Rutgers this year, 1652 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 1: but you get the point, Like that's like the biggest 1653 01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,640 Speaker 1: gap between geographic locations in the Big Ten. Same thing 1654 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 1: with the SEC, right going from Texas down Alabama, that's 1655 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 1: a far drive. I think in general, those types of 1656 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 1: entities will be impacted more. And yes, that is a 1657 01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 1: two way street. As much as Texas has to get 1658 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 1: used to playing in the SEC against Alabama and Mississippi 1659 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 1: State and all those teams, those coaches also have to 1660 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:22,680 Speaker 1: adjust to playing Texas, and those sports information departments and 1661 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 1: those equipment departments have to adjust to the new routines 1662 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 1: and the new travel schedule. Like these these coaches, especially 1663 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 1: the coaches that have been in these conferences, in these 1664 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,559 Speaker 1: leagues and these teams for a long time, they are 1665 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 1: creatures of habit. When they go to this city, they 1666 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,679 Speaker 1: stay in the same hotel, they eat it the same 1667 01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 1: pregame meal, like, they do the same exact thing, and 1668 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,280 Speaker 1: all of that now is being you know, change and switch, 1669 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,880 Speaker 1: and I do think there will be slightly more of 1670 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,280 Speaker 1: an adjustment for the new teams, but there will also 1671 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 1: be an adjustment for the existing teams as well. So yeah, Brian, 1672 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I can't really push back too hard on that. I 1673 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 1: think more adjustment for the new teams. But that's not 1674 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 1: to say that it's nil on the other side of 1675 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:07,080 Speaker 1: the equation. Yeah, that's the part where whether you break 1676 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:11,759 Speaker 1: the tie with the four newbies or the twelve existing, 1677 01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 1: who's got to adjust more. I think there's a tendency 1678 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,639 Speaker 1: to think, well, I mean, these four new teams really 1679 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,599 Speaker 1: have to adjust to a different conference in different travel 1680 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and that's true. But the twelve existing Big Ten teams, 1681 01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 1: that's a lot of adjusting as well. You got to 1682 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 1: go all the way out to the West coast, maybe 1683 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 1: a couple of times, depending on your schedule. That's a 1684 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,960 Speaker 1: big adjustment. So adjusting works both ways. And I think 1685 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,640 Speaker 1: there's a tendency where I don't know, maybe it's like 1686 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: a trade in basketball, where it's, oh man, this guy's 1687 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 1: got to get adjusted to his new team, And I 1688 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I think we look at realignment in the 1689 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 1: same way when it's completely different. If it's Rutgers or 1690 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 1: that's probably a bad example, let's use it it's Penn State. 1691 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,519 Speaker 1: Penn State's gotta go all the way out to the 1692 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,000 Speaker 1: West coast. That's a big adjustment, you know. So it's 1693 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,639 Speaker 1: not just the four new schools adjusting, it's the twelve 1694 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 1: existing schools in the Big Ten. Now I'm focusing on 1695 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 1: them because of the maps commercial update, but you're right 1696 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,439 Speaker 1: if you extend that to the SEC or there's been 1697 01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot of realignment adjusting works both ways, not just 1698 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: for the new schools but the existing ones. 1699 01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,800 Speaker 2: I think I think it's a fantastic point. I think 1700 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,840 Speaker 2: it's probably a point that has been under discussed, you know, 1701 01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:37,320 Speaker 2: because you assume these teams joining this powerful conference like 1702 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,400 Speaker 2: the few against the many. Well, I don't know if 1703 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 2: anybody was paying attention to college football this past year 1704 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:46,679 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve before completely disintegrated, pretty good conference. 1705 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of good teams in that conference. 1706 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,400 Speaker 2: And in fact, if you stacked up team for team 1707 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve against Big Ten last year, boy, I'll 1708 01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,600 Speaker 2: tell you what, it's at very least, even if not 1709 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 2: West Coast. 1710 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,559 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's going to be. 1711 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:09,160 Speaker 2: A tricky circumstance for Big Ten teams to navigate against 1712 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 2: the new blood. And also, dare I say the Big 1713 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,680 Speaker 2: Ten for a long time was like the last holdout 1714 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,160 Speaker 2: to change over to the spread offense. You know, take 1715 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 2: every quarterback snap from the gun like a lot of 1716 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,599 Speaker 2: these teams do. Now they were. There were a lot 1717 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 2: of teams holding on to the old pro style way 1718 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,920 Speaker 2: of play, and it was you know, hard nose, three 1719 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,840 Speaker 2: yards and a cloud of dust style football with heavy 1720 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 2: defense and good linebacker playing. And it's it's made the 1721 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,640 Speaker 2: transition this decade, but it was far behind a lot 1722 01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,639 Speaker 2: of the teams in the Pac twelve who have been 1723 01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 2: you know, instit who have instituted this style of play 1724 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 2: and have recruited for this style of play for many 1725 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,800 Speaker 2: many years now. Now, I do think the Big Ten 1726 01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,080 Speaker 2: caught up. Obviously, you look at schools like Michigan and 1727 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,559 Speaker 2: Ohio State and Penn State. I don't think they've been 1728 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:08,720 Speaker 2: left in the dust, certainly not. But the reality is 1729 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:13,439 Speaker 2: that this has never been a more even fight across 1730 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 2: the United States in terms of you know, whatever your 1731 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,800 Speaker 2: whoever you are, whatever your university says on the front 1732 01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 2: of the jersey, it doesn't really matter. What matters is 1733 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 2: how deep your nil pockets are. That's what a lot 1734 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,280 Speaker 2: of these athletes are looking for. It doesn't really matter 1735 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,120 Speaker 2: whatever it says on the front of your jersey as 1736 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,720 Speaker 2: long as you have playoff prospects. A lot of these 1737 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,880 Speaker 2: recruits are looking for that. So it's a different time 1738 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,920 Speaker 2: in college football, and so I think there's a lot 1739 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,640 Speaker 2: more disparity in terms of some of the things they 1740 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,200 Speaker 2: just pointed out, or the disparity nil and you know, 1741 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,240 Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff as it currently exists creates. But 1742 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,120 Speaker 2: also there's a lot of equality, and it's going to 1743 01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 2: make it so a lot more of these teams are 1744 01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,760 Speaker 2: very even. And so I agree with you. I think 1745 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,360 Speaker 2: this is going to be a tough road to hoe 1746 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,840 Speaker 2: for either side of this coin, whether it's the time 1747 01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 2: the teams who are joining conferences or the teams who 1748 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 2: have to prepare to play against the new teams in 1749 01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:12,680 Speaker 2: these conferences. 1750 01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 1: Let's take it a step further. You know what conference 1751 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I think is going through the most upheaval, The Big Twelve? 1752 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,920 Speaker 1: Can you name? I will give one hundred dollars. Actually no, 1753 01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 1: because you guys are gonna look this up, or the viewers. 1754 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I'll give someone one hundred dollars if they can legitimately 1755 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 1: name the sixteen teams in the Big Twelve this year. 1756 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,240 Speaker 1: Good luck. It's a hodgepodge from all over the country. Here. 1757 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,519 Speaker 1: I'll just give you the teams because you're not gonna 1758 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:45,799 Speaker 1: get them. Utah UCF Arizona. Then you get the traditionals 1759 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,679 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Kansas Gate, Iowa State, TCU, Kansas, West Virginia, 1760 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Colorado back in the Big Twelve, Baylor, Cincinnati, 1761 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 1: Arizona State in the Big twelve, what YU and Houston. 1762 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,840 Speaker 1: I got a sixteen team hodge Podge conference. That one 1763 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,679 Speaker 1: of those teams is gonna be in the playoff probably 1764 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,720 Speaker 1: you taught, but who knows, could be someone else, But 1765 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,640 Speaker 1: one of those teams I just mentioned will be in 1766 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 1: the College of Ball Playoff. And let's go through the list. 1767 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,479 Speaker 1: TCU made it right and they had their crazy run. 1768 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,519 Speaker 1: No one else on the list besides TCU with that 1769 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,000 Speaker 1: crazy run, I believe made the College Wall Playoffs. So 1770 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,560 Speaker 1: odds are unless TCU makes it again, we will have 1771 01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 1: a new team in the Culturawall Playoff representing the Big Twelve. Yeah, crazy, 1772 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 1: it is. It is wild, and it's not just within 1773 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:39,160 Speaker 1: the conference, it's the overall landscape of adjusting. I mean 1774 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,800 Speaker 1: really from a betting perspective, from a fan perspective, I 1775 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,839 Speaker 1: guarantee they're gonna be a lot of diehard college football 1776 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 1: fans where they pop on the TV early in the 1777 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:54,600 Speaker 1: season and they're like, wait a minute, Arizona against TCU 1778 01:35:54,960 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 1: is a constance game, Like, really, Cincinnati against BYU conference game, Yeah, 1779 01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 1: it is. It's gonna be wild. Yeah, it is crazy. 1780 01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 2: Gosh. 1781 01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, 1782 01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,840 Speaker 1: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. 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If I 1811 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,200 Speaker 1: go straight from the Gold Zone to Team USA basketball, 1812 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to miss the first five minutes of 1813 01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,880 Speaker 1: the game. What are you doing? It's like, hey, enjoy 1814 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,200 Speaker 1: a shot of the Eiffel Tower before the game starts. 1815 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm watching it on the sports books. They're always updating 1816 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 1: the scores right and bet MGM. I'm like Okay, the 1817 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 1: game's going on. Why is it not televised? They're like, oh, 1818 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,720 Speaker 1: our bad story. You ever go to a sports bar 1819 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,519 Speaker 1: and they're late getting the afternoon NFL games on? 1820 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:17,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1821 01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,400 Speaker 1: It's like five pm Eastern time. They're like, oh, shoot, 1822 01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are on. It's like, I'm not coming here again, 1823 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,759 Speaker 1: you guyet that's not a real sport bar. Yeah, sports 1824 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,759 Speaker 1: bar drives me crazy. 1825 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:32,720 Speaker 2: It's very funny how our habits have changed now, where 1826 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,839 Speaker 2: Like I don't get me wrong, I I definitely remember 1827 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,840 Speaker 2: wistfully like the days where you could just turn on 1828 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,560 Speaker 2: the television and click over to the channel that you 1829 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 2: wanted to watch for whatever it was, whether a sports 1830 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,840 Speaker 2: or otherwise, and then you had the channel recall button 1831 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:51,599 Speaker 2: flip between two channels. 1832 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,519 Speaker 1: Those are now. 1833 01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:58,920 Speaker 2: I it's just amazing. I come home and I think 1834 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,559 Speaker 2: what app to I need to turn on? Yes? Yes, 1835 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,439 Speaker 2: Like that's the challenges remembering what even app I need 1836 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,240 Speaker 2: to turn on? Is my YouTube TV? Now it's on 1837 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,600 Speaker 2: a special what is it? Peacock? I don't know? Is 1838 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,040 Speaker 2: it Hulu? Which one do I gotta turn on too? 1839 01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,599 Speaker 2: But it's the world we live in now, it's all 1840 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 2: changed very quickly. 1841 01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 1: It's gotten to the point where I need a warm 1842 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:25,040 Speaker 1: up period just to get my television set. For example, 1843 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,960 Speaker 1: great example is this show We go off the air 1844 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 1: on a regular college football Saturday. We're off the air 1845 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 1: at fifty four, and the games start at top of 1846 01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:39,840 Speaker 1: the hour. In that six minute stretch between when our 1847 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,240 Speaker 1: show goes off the air and the games kickoff, I 1848 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:48,240 Speaker 1: am scrambling most days to program all. I have three 1849 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,599 Speaker 1: televisions in my command center here to get them all 1850 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,559 Speaker 1: on the right game in the right spot, and sometimes 1851 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,040 Speaker 1: I misskickoff. It takes that long to turn it on, 1852 01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,360 Speaker 1: get to the app, know what game you want, set 1853 01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:01,400 Speaker 1: up the screen, Which games do you want on which screen? 1854 01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,479 Speaker 1: It's almost like a like a warm up, like before 1855 01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,320 Speaker 1: I go for a run. I have to stretch like 1856 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,280 Speaker 1: I can't just turn on the TV anymore and flip like. 1857 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 1: It is a process to get the games out. Not 1858 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,720 Speaker 1: that I'm complaining, but it is a process. Okay, So 1859 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to throw this story at you. It's not 1860 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna have major legs just because the team isn't sexy 1861 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,479 Speaker 1: right now. It's about the Chicago Bulls, and listen, you 1862 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,559 Speaker 1: might not have you might not know anything about the Bulls, 1863 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,519 Speaker 1: you might not care about Zach Levine. All of that's fine. 1864 01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:35,320 Speaker 1: It's really what an organization is doing that to me 1865 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,240 Speaker 1: is very interesting. So they're trying to trade Zach Levine 1866 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,880 Speaker 1: and Zach Levine he's gotten a lot of blame for 1867 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 1: the Bulls woes as of late, and so this week 1868 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,360 Speaker 1: he came out and he was like, I think I'm 1869 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:51,200 Speaker 1: blamed a little bit too much for the Bulls struggles. 1870 01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,439 Speaker 1: I only played twenty five games last season. And so 1871 01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:58,959 Speaker 1: there was an anonymous team source that said the following 1872 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,160 Speaker 1: about Zach l again like a Bulls team source talking 1873 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 1: about Bulls player Zach Levine saying he's never won. He's 1874 01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 1: done it his way, the whole way, and never one. 1875 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 1: If he's interested in winning, he'll do what's asked of him. 1876 01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 1: And if he's motivated to not be here, one way 1877 01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,280 Speaker 1: is to come, be compliant and be who he is 1878 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,880 Speaker 1: end quote. And I saw that, I'm like, what are 1879 01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 1: they doing here? Put it this way, would it make 1880 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 1: any sense for a used car salesman to say, listen, 1881 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:40,360 Speaker 1: this car sucks, it gets horrible gas mileage, the muffler's broken, 1882 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,800 Speaker 1: and then turn around and try to sell that same car. 1883 01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,920 Speaker 1: That would make no sense whatsoever. Why would the Bulls? 1884 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:52,400 Speaker 1: Why would any team source crush Zach Levine this way 1885 01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,640 Speaker 1: while the organization is trying to move him. This is 1886 01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 1: one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, and it 1887 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 1: shows why the Bulls have been a c for way 1888 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:01,679 Speaker 1: too long. 1889 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,800 Speaker 2: Now. Well, yeah, sometimes you ask why, and the answer is, 1890 01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,080 Speaker 2: you know, simpler than you think. There's you know, there's 1891 01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,240 Speaker 2: a lot of times something is sourced and you say, hey, 1892 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:14,640 Speaker 2: why was this message given to the general public, Like 1893 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:15,800 Speaker 2: who wanted this album? 1894 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 1895 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 2: This favors the player because the player is searching for 1896 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,280 Speaker 2: a trade. Oh, this favor is the team because the 1897 01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,040 Speaker 2: team is trying to make the player the villains, as 1898 01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 2: the player is holding out for more money and they 1899 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:33,200 Speaker 2: want to change the topic DuJour more toward how greedy 1900 01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,200 Speaker 2: the player is, as opposed to you know, how stingy 1901 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 2: the team is. You know, it's there's a lot of 1902 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:42,160 Speaker 2: reasons why things get message to the public. But sometimes 1903 01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 2: the why, or I should say, the answer to the 1904 01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:48,759 Speaker 2: why is because somebody made a horrible mistake. Somebody spoke 1905 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 2: to somebody on the record when they thought they were 1906 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,360 Speaker 2: off the record, and so even though no names were named, 1907 01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 2: this could have just been as simple as I had 1908 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 2: a whoopsie. I worked for the Bulls and I was 1909 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 2: talking to somebody who I thought I was speaking to 1910 01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,719 Speaker 2: in confidence, and I gave him a juicy little morsel 1911 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,920 Speaker 2: he or she could not refuse to take to the 1912 01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,640 Speaker 2: press and to publish and to write about and to 1913 01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,519 Speaker 2: include that. It was a team source that said it. Now, 1914 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,840 Speaker 2: can this burn bridges for a reporter? It absolutely can. 1915 01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,280 Speaker 2: Can this make a huge mess for a team and 1916 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:31,000 Speaker 2: an organization trying to now sniff out the rat and 1917 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,960 Speaker 2: get rid of them? It absolutely could. But sometimes the 1918 01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 2: answer to the why is whoops? And this is what 1919 01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:40,040 Speaker 2: this feels like, because you're absolutely right, Brian, this makes 1920 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:44,599 Speaker 2: I mean zero sense for this to come out right now. Yeah. 1921 01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,160 Speaker 1: I again, I haven't been paying too much attention to 1922 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,760 Speaker 1: the NBA. I didn't even know about this story until 1923 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,160 Speaker 1: Brian popped it in the Rundown last night, and I 1924 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:56,799 Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, late, what that's me getting 1925 01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:00,080 Speaker 1: the big stories on the rundown? No, No, but this 1926 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,559 Speaker 1: is one of those where I'm glad that I did 1927 01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,680 Speaker 1: see it because it does change your perception on the 1928 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,760 Speaker 1: Bulls this year. Now again, we have plenty of time 1929 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,599 Speaker 1: to you know, reevaluate those opinions before the NBA season starts, 1930 01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 1: and you know, throughout the course of the season we 1931 01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 1: will constantly reevaluate. But I'll tell you what, I'm not 1932 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,240 Speaker 1: bullish on the Bulls heading into the season. That's for sure. 1933 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:21,840 Speaker 1: I'll be here all week. 1934 01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:22,799 Speaker 2: Don't forget that, your waitresses. 1935 01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 1: Actually, I'll be here for another thirty minutes and that's it, 1936 01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,400 Speaker 1: and then he's out of here. I'll tell you who's 1937 01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:32,400 Speaker 1: here for another roughly thirty minutes or so. The fantastic, 1938 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:40,599 Speaker 1: the hard working, the gregarious Isaac Lowen product last this morning. 1939 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 5: Do what he does pretty much covers it. Actually, now 1940 01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:47,880 Speaker 5: that I think of it, it just scratches the surface. 1941 01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:51,839 Speaker 5: It only scratches the surface. With Simone Biles because fellas 1942 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:55,519 Speaker 5: at the Olympics. Simone Biles has just won another gold medal. 1943 01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 5: She just won the women's vault competition for the seventh 1944 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:03,719 Speaker 5: gold me of her career. Meanwhile, in the women's soccer 1945 01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,760 Speaker 5: quarterfinals moments ago, the United States and Japan were scoreless 1946 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:09,800 Speaker 5: in extra time. 1947 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: Done looking for Roblan again, Rodlan and Trinity Rodlan. 1948 01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:26,879 Speaker 2: Twenty two year old Trinity Rockland take a bow. 1949 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 5: The call in USA. So the United States up won 1950 01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 5: nothing on Japan. They have about a minute left in 1951 01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,920 Speaker 5: extra time, but there's going to be stoppage time added 1952 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,760 Speaker 5: on to that. So Team USA still needing to hold on. 1953 01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:45,960 Speaker 5: Right now, the US men's basketball team trailing Puerto Rico 1954 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,120 Speaker 5: twenty seven to twenty three, forty five seconds left to play. 1955 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,120 Speaker 3: In the first quarter. 1956 01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,880 Speaker 5: The Americans have already clinched a spot in the quarterfinals. 1957 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,960 Speaker 5: They are two and oh. This is their final game 1958 01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:02,000 Speaker 5: of group play and finally, American Vincent Hancock has just 1959 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:05,800 Speaker 5: won the gold medal in men's skeet shooting. I don't 1960 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 5: know anything about skeet shooting, but. 1961 01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,479 Speaker 1: I do know we won. So there you go back 1962 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,439 Speaker 1: to you guys. Man, I wish I had money on 1963 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,760 Speaker 1: that guy. You know, how about that British announcer with 1964 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,880 Speaker 1: the US goal, Like, did he have money on Team Japan? 1965 01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:18,600 Speaker 1: He did not seem very excited. 1966 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,120 Speaker 2: About You noticed that too? 1967 01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,160 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay, not just me and her little American 1968 01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 1: bias there, huh yeah. It is Fox Sports Saturday here 1969 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,599 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Shortly after the show, our podcast 1970 01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,800 Speaker 1: will be going up. 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This is 1980 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,680 Speaker 1: not like the heavens are falling, major deal, nothing like that. Now, 1981 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,000 Speaker 1: just based on me being me, when I start discussing this, 1982 01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 1: it might sound like it's earth shattering just because of 1983 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,720 Speaker 1: the way I am. I don't know, but let me 1984 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,200 Speaker 1: just say this is a minor, minor beef. I just 1985 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:19,920 Speaker 1: saw the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies there today. I 1986 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 1: knew that, but I didn't hear about the order of 1987 01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:32,240 Speaker 1: who's speaking when. Okay, so closing the ceremonies is basically 1988 01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:37,160 Speaker 1: lunch payal guy Andre Johnson. He was an amazing player. 1989 01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,799 Speaker 1: We all know this with the Houston Texans, mainly awesome 1990 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's gonna be the last player to speak, 1991 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 1: and I just like to raise my hand and say why. 1992 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:52,760 Speaker 1: Like Andre Johnson is known for being a lunch payal guy, 1993 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,280 Speaker 1: doesn't say a whole lot, just does his job, not 1994 01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,960 Speaker 1: a diva receiver. You know, head down, don't draw attention 1995 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:01,479 Speaker 1: to yourself. That's great. 1996 01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:01,960 Speaker 2: I love that. 1997 01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 1: I loved his approach as a professional athlete in the NFL. 1998 01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't love that to close the induction ceremonies for 1999 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame weekend, you know what I mean? Like, 2000 01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,640 Speaker 1: if anything, end this with Dwight Freeny. Dwight Freeney was 2001 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:19,040 Speaker 1: an amazing player. He's got the stats, he's got the cachet, 2002 01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,360 Speaker 1: and he's got way more personality. Like this is the thing, 2003 01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:27,559 Speaker 1: Like end with some bizazz and with some personality instead 2004 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,960 Speaker 1: of you know, I'd like to go. I don't even 2005 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,400 Speaker 1: know what Andre's speech is gonna sound like, you know, 2006 01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,960 Speaker 1: and it's gonna sound like a major thing. But he's 2007 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 1: more of the opening act than the headlining band. 2008 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:39,840 Speaker 2: You know. 2009 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why you would close the show that 2010 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 1: way at all. 2011 01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 2: I'm curious if the committee, the executive committee for the 2012 01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:53,240 Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of fame gets to read their scripts 2013 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,720 Speaker 2: because I assume everybody goes with a written script, right 2014 01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,680 Speaker 2: and maybe they have to send it to somebody to 2015 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:04,360 Speaker 2: how reviewed. And so maybe maybe they felt compelled to 2016 01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:08,080 Speaker 2: have Andre go last because they went, oh, you know what, 2017 01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot to this, because if you think about 2018 01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:15,080 Speaker 2: the story of his career, it is a career of 2019 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:20,080 Speaker 2: an overachiever with an underachieving franchise and the sort of 2020 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:24,360 Speaker 2: sticktuitiveness and the you know, the I don't know, the 2021 01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,759 Speaker 2: guts it takes in some In some ways, there's probably 2022 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:31,719 Speaker 2: a better word for it to grind out in the darkness, 2023 01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,840 Speaker 2: while you're looking till you're left and your right, and 2024 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:40,519 Speaker 2: you're seeing your peers and your contemporaries sailing beyond. You 2025 01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,840 Speaker 2: know where you are from a team wide success standpoint. 2026 01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,680 Speaker 2: You know, that's got to be a frustration that you 2027 01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,760 Speaker 2: have to sort of grin and bear through because your 2028 01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,960 Speaker 2: privileged to play such a great game. But at the 2029 01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 2: same token, you're probably feeling like you're being left behind 2030 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:59,280 Speaker 2: in many ways. I'm very curious if that's the criteria, 2031 01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:01,799 Speaker 2: If they get to look at the scripts and decide 2032 01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,480 Speaker 2: who they think is going to deliver the most impassioned 2033 01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 2: powerful speech that represents the Hall of Fame. 2034 01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,040 Speaker 1: Bast Yeah, that's an and Brian, I'm not as familiar 2035 01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:14,240 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame cadence. Is it normally the 2036 01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,920 Speaker 1: most popular exciting player goes last? Is that how it 2037 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,280 Speaker 1: traditionally is it's kind of a blend. A lot of 2038 01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,200 Speaker 1: times it's the biggest name, or it might be a 2039 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,400 Speaker 1: blend of biggest name or a this guy's just got 2040 01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,479 Speaker 1: he's oozing with personality. Let's close it out with a bang, 2041 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, the best of both worlds, Like if Brent 2042 01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:37,479 Speaker 1: Farv goes into the Hall of Fame and yeah, so 2043 01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:41,679 Speaker 1: of the list this year, Freeeny Haster, Andre Johnson, Julius 2044 01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,879 Speaker 1: Pepper's Patrick Willis. Actually Patrick Willis's story is really intriguing. 2045 01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:49,719 Speaker 1: Randy Gratish Art ste MacMichael, who I believe is deceased 2046 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,479 Speaker 1: right as being inducted, he's he's still here. He just 2047 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:56,040 Speaker 1: has a LS Yeah, okay, okay, because I saw the 2048 01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:57,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game, it was his wife that came 2049 01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:01,719 Speaker 1: out and accepted the the gratitude when they were announcing 2050 01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:02,919 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame's pregame. 2051 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 2: There. 2052 01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:07,280 Speaker 1: I think that list, like, let's use the top five, right, Freenie, Hester, Johnson, 2053 01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:10,240 Speaker 1: Peppers willis the one speaking. I mean, can you pick 2054 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,479 Speaker 1: a number one? Clear cut? Like, yep, this guy needs 2055 01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 1: to go last. Like I think it's it's kind of 2056 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,200 Speaker 1: up for debate, right, gimme freenye, give me Dwight freenyek. 2057 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,720 Speaker 1: He's got the personality. I think Hester's got the personality too, 2058 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,320 Speaker 1: based off of what I've seen from interviews, and obviously 2059 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:28,120 Speaker 1: he's got the blockbuster highlight rail to go with it, 2060 01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:31,719 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's as impactful. Yeah, I agree, 2061 01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,439 Speaker 1: Andre Johnson going last doesn't move the needle for me. Yeah, 2062 01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,160 Speaker 1: I just don't know enough about the process to make 2063 01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,519 Speaker 1: a really informed opinion about it. No, that's fine. I'll 2064 01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:45,280 Speaker 1: take a slight agreement on that, you know, half agreement half. 2065 01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,960 Speaker 2: I will say this, playing with Dwight toward the end 2066 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,479 Speaker 2: of his career and getting to know him a little bit, 2067 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,240 Speaker 2: he was one of the most interesting people I've met. Yeah. 2068 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,320 Speaker 2: He was an open buck, and I mean an open book. 2069 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,000 Speaker 2: It didn't matter what you were talking to him about. 2070 01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,920 Speaker 2: If you are talking about challenges he's faced in the past, 2071 01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:13,200 Speaker 2: or you know, tips on how to you know, play longevity. 2072 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he played forever, you know, the times when 2073 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,600 Speaker 2: he was with the Colts and the things they were doing. Defensively, 2074 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,560 Speaker 2: he was a great talker. He loved to talk, and 2075 01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,000 Speaker 2: so there were times where you'd sit down at the 2076 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,640 Speaker 2: lunch table and you'd lose track of time and you know, 2077 01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,840 Speaker 2: almost you know, be late for a meeting because man, 2078 01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,800 Speaker 2: he just had a lot to say and he was 2079 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:34,800 Speaker 2: an interesting dude. 2080 01:52:34,920 --> 01:52:36,080 Speaker 1: And so that's cool. 2081 01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,840 Speaker 2: I I yeah, I'm very curious because you know, that 2082 01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 2: speech could go in a lot of different directions, and 2083 01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:45,880 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope he really concentrates and focuses on 2084 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,280 Speaker 2: all the positives of his career because there were so many, 2085 01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,960 Speaker 2: even though there were some negative times. You know, he 2086 01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 2: was one of those guys who kind of got the 2087 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:58,080 Speaker 2: whoolpoll over his eyes by a bad financial advisor. Yeah, 2088 01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,439 Speaker 2: and it was a big, big piece of the story. 2089 01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:04,560 Speaker 2: But where where he's gotten to since then and what 2090 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,719 Speaker 2: he was able to accomplish during all that is nothing 2091 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:08,559 Speaker 2: less than amazing. 2092 01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:12,120 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting your theory of maybe the committee 2093 01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,320 Speaker 1: see some of the speeches and they're like, oh man, 2094 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:15,800 Speaker 1: this would be a good speech to end it with. 2095 01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:18,760 Speaker 1: I like the opposite. I like the opposite of their like, man, 2096 01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:23,240 Speaker 1: this speech sucks. Let's put them, Let's put him like third. 2097 01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,880 Speaker 1: When the intermission happened, he break speech. 2098 01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people are gonna be reapplying their suntan lotion. 2099 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be hot out there in Canton. I'm sure, right, 2100 01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,640 Speaker 1: humidity is it an outdoor? It's an outdoor, fair right? 2101 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 1: They were those heavy gold jackets. Man, I remember one 2102 01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:41,519 Speaker 1: guy I remember one year was like sweating through it. 2103 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,519 Speaker 1: That's why I think of the movie Anchorman, you know, 2104 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,800 Speaker 1: with what Rich was talking about, where you know Dwight 2105 01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:52,200 Speaker 1: Freenie's got this personality and he's not the last speech 2106 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,960 Speaker 1: and what you said, Jared, with the heat out there 2107 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,360 Speaker 1: and how hot it is. Remember an Anchorman where Will 2108 01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,680 Speaker 1: Ferrell's like milk was a bad joy. That's how I 2109 01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:04,200 Speaker 1: feel about Andre Johnson. Andre Johnson was a bad choice 2110 01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:07,559 Speaker 1: to finish this thing. Last thing I'll say, I love 2111 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:11,840 Speaker 1: who presents each of the Hall of Famers. They choose 2112 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,639 Speaker 1: someone to present them for the Hall of Fame. Rich, 2113 01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,639 Speaker 1: you mentioned Freeny's agent and all that. Julius Pepper's agent 2114 01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:23,920 Speaker 1: will be presenting interesting, right, Andre Johnson chose former Texans 2115 01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:28,719 Speaker 1: head coach Gary Kubiak, Patrick Willis chose his sister, Devin 2116 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,000 Speaker 1: Hester chose his mom. Randy Gratischer is going to be 2117 01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 1: presented by Tom Jackson, right, Steve McMichael, I love this one. 2118 01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:42,640 Speaker 1: Gonna be presented by JAREDT. Peyton, Walter Payton's son. That's 2119 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,560 Speaker 1: really cool. And Dwight Freeneye. He chose Colts team owner 2120 01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:49,480 Speaker 1: Jim Ersy, So that'll be a fun speech. He's always entertaining. Yeah, 2121 01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,000 Speaker 1: how don't we put last? 2122 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2123 01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:59,320 Speaker 1: Right, the team of Dwight and Jim not last couple, 2124 01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,000 Speaker 1: right there, no doubt about it. 2125 01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:01,360 Speaker 2: All right. 2126 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 1: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR, 2127 01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,520 Speaker 1: betting analyst. I'm Brian now coming up next the moment 2128 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,760 Speaker 1: of truth. Time for some picks, with a little story 2129 01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,880 Speaker 1: on my end as to the roller coaster nature of 2130 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:21,120 Speaker 1: this non football season, you know, rapid fire selections. Here, 2131 01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,720 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. Right around the corner. We've got 2132 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:27,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. It 2133 01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,320 Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. 2134 01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:35,760 Speaker 1: Props to the crew, Bo Benzon, our trusted producer, Chris Prefet, 2135 01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:42,400 Speaker 1: technical Producer extraordinaire Isaac Lohenkron, Crushing the Updates, Crushing Life, 2136 01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,440 Speaker 1: Top the Hour, Up on Game, LaVar Arrington, TJ. Hushman, 2137 01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:51,320 Speaker 1: Zada Plexico, Buris. You are in great hands. That comes 2138 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,040 Speaker 1: your way in just about ten minutes. All right, we 2139 01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:55,080 Speaker 1: got some picks to make. 2140 01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:55,720 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 2141 01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:02,920 Speaker 1: Rapid fire. Okay, Jared, we start with you. What are 2142 01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 1: you thinking. 2143 01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go. 2144 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:06,760 Speaker 1: Back to baseball, I mean with slim pickens obviously for 2145 01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,360 Speaker 1: the next week or so, and then we'll get back 2146 01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:11,080 Speaker 1: into the football grind very soon. Don't worry. But it's 2147 01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:14,640 Speaker 1: a nerfy day. Hey, it's Saturday. We'll go Giants, Reds 2148 01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,000 Speaker 1: Hunter Greens on the mound today. And I'll be honest, 2149 01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,240 Speaker 1: if he pitched for any other team, we'd be talking 2150 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,320 Speaker 1: about this guy for a signing. He's having an unbelievable 2151 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,480 Speaker 1: year eighteen and three to the Nurfy fifty seven and 2152 01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:27,600 Speaker 1: ten of the Nurfy since twenty nineteen. Crazy Nurfey numbers 2153 01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,520 Speaker 1: for Hunter Green gets Kyle Harrison on the other side 2154 01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 1: for the Giants, and he hasn't had a great year, 2155 01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,440 Speaker 1: kind of up and down. But the Reds have really 2156 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 1: struggled against lefties this year, so we'll go nurfhy in Cincinnati. 2157 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,480 Speaker 1: We'll go nurfy in Minnesota too. Bailey over has been 2158 01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,640 Speaker 1: up and down, but his stuff lately has been good. 2159 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,160 Speaker 1: And on the other side for the White Sox, we 2160 01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,560 Speaker 1: get Garrett Crochet, who's actually been roughed up a little 2161 01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,040 Speaker 1: bit his two starts before the trade deadline. He's staying 2162 01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago. I think he comes out. We'll a little 2163 01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:55,880 Speaker 1: smoke today, probably a little upset he didn't get traded 2164 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,720 Speaker 1: at the deadline. So I think Crochet has a good 2165 01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,600 Speaker 1: start today, and I think he gets through the first 2166 01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: inning on and then we'll go your feet. How about 2167 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:03,960 Speaker 1: an early year feet. This game starts in about an 2168 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,000 Speaker 1: hour in the Bronx, Jose Burrios, who's been terrible on 2169 01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,040 Speaker 1: the road for the Blue Jays this year, Carlos Dan 2170 01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,400 Speaker 1: who has not been good for the Yankees either, and 2171 01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,520 Speaker 1: we get those great first inning lineups, especially in the 2172 01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,120 Speaker 1: Bronx for the Yankees with Sodo and Judge. So I'll 2173 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,480 Speaker 1: go your feet Toronto, New York Nerfy White Sox wins 2174 01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:22,640 Speaker 1: Nerfy Giants threats. 2175 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:26,160 Speaker 2: I've been hammering Padres over the past couple of weeks 2176 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:29,080 Speaker 2: and having some success, so I'm gonna continue on that path. 2177 01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:33,040 Speaker 2: So San Diego is hosting the Colorado Rockies. You may 2178 01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:36,160 Speaker 2: think to yourself, well, san Diego's on a heater, Colorado's 2179 01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:39,520 Speaker 2: no good this season. Not so fast, my friend. The 2180 01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:43,480 Speaker 2: San Diego Padres have had trouble against the Rockies on 2181 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,840 Speaker 2: the road and at home. This is one of the 2182 01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,640 Speaker 2: few teams that have swept them this season. So I 2183 01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 2: got the Rockies plus one and a half on the 2184 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:52,840 Speaker 2: run line. I also think that the game's gonna go 2185 01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,000 Speaker 2: over eight and a half total runs. So that's my 2186 01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,400 Speaker 2: first two. Then Martin Perez over four and a half. 2187 01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:02,880 Speaker 2: Strikeouts can go hot, the bats can go cold for 2188 01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,560 Speaker 2: the Pods, I'm gonna take the four and a half 2189 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:07,920 Speaker 2: the over on strikeouts from Martin Press. 2190 01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:12,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so the backstory here. I thought I was like 2191 01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:17,000 Speaker 1: the Edmonton Oilers. Okay, remember how Edmonton in the NHL. 2192 01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,920 Speaker 1: They got off to a just a dreadful start, and 2193 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,040 Speaker 1: then they righted the ship and the next thing you know, 2194 01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,280 Speaker 1: they're in the Stanley Cup Final. I thought I was 2195 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,760 Speaker 1: on my way. I don't know what my record was 2196 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,960 Speaker 1: at its worst, you know, I started off five and 2197 01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:34,000 Speaker 1: ten in the non football season picks. I was seven 2198 01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:35,880 Speaker 1: games under five hundred. I don't know where I was 2199 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:38,680 Speaker 1: at the worst, but I righted the ship, baby, and 2200 01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 1: I got back to five hundred. Like al Puccino in 2201 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,960 Speaker 1: any given Sunday, I scratched and I clawed with my 2202 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,040 Speaker 1: finger nails to get to get to thirty and thirty. 2203 01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,240 Speaker 1: And then what's happened in the last three weeks one 2204 01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:53,720 Speaker 1: and eight? Oh my, I'm right back in the cellar again. 2205 01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:57,200 Speaker 1: Just terrible. So I'm gonna try to try to get 2206 01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,600 Speaker 1: back on track. Over you got first thing. First thing here, 2207 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:04,360 Speaker 1: if you're watching Team USA and Puerto Rico, this is 2208 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:08,440 Speaker 1: not lockdown defense. We're talking about here in game over 2209 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:10,360 Speaker 1: one ninety nine and a half. 2210 01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:10,760 Speaker 2: Love it. 2211 01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,080 Speaker 1: I say they get to combine two hundred points in 2212 01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:17,400 Speaker 1: this game. Okay, let's start with that. Then we're we're 2213 01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:23,000 Speaker 1: stuck with baseball over here. We're almost there, guys, We're 2214 01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 1: almost there, almost there. You know what I'm gonna do. 2215 01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to ride the hot team. The Arizona Diamondbacks 2216 01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,840 Speaker 1: have been fantastic year. Last couple of weeks. I'll take 2217 01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,400 Speaker 1: a minus one to ozh five on the road against Pittsburgh. Okay, 2218 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:40,240 Speaker 1: they're just that hot, and I'm gonna fade the cold team. 2219 01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:43,720 Speaker 1: The Phillies have been ice freaking cold since the All 2220 01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:47,160 Speaker 1: Star Break. I'll go with the Mariners minus one twenty 2221 01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:50,040 Speaker 1: at home. You know, I thought about going with the 2222 01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:53,600 Speaker 1: Twins over four and a half runs their team total, 2223 01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,480 Speaker 1: but you mentioned Garrett Crochet. He's pitching today. The Twins 2224 01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:00,640 Speaker 1: have just been freaking hammering. Yeah, the White Socks. They're 2225 02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,400 Speaker 1: crushing left these two. Yeah, but I'll leave that off 2226 02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:06,960 Speaker 1: and I'll opt for a little in game team USA 2227 02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico over right? 2228 02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Now? 2229 02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:09,040 Speaker 3: What do I like it? 2230 02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Like that? 2231 02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:12,840 Speaker 1: At least a winning record? Huh? Can we can we 2232 02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 1: get to two and one? 2233 02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:13,920 Speaker 2: At least? 2234 02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:16,080 Speaker 1: I feeling good? We gotta do uh, we gotta do 2235 02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:18,160 Speaker 1: like a re like a Kumbaya and get ready for 2236 02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:20,920 Speaker 1: a football season, because I feel like, uh, this is 2237 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:23,360 Speaker 1: like a totally different vibe, like the baseball picks. I 2238 02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:26,560 Speaker 1: love baseball, but it's it's like the amuse boush to 2239 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,000 Speaker 1: what the main course is? 2240 02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:29,240 Speaker 2: I know it? Right? 2241 02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? We were inch and closer, closer and close. Maybe 2242 02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,240 Speaker 1: a little preseason football action next week. We'll see with 2243 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:39,240 Speaker 1: the picks. Everybody, have a good day. We'll catch it soon.