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Speaker 1: we get to that, though, just do you have any

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Speaker 1: uh do you have any like Chris or Westling Brothers

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Speaker 1: sort of Bengals connected memories from your childhood. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you guys like went too many games or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, or just watching games and fighting over

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Speaker 1: the you know, the piece of raw steak that that

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Speaker 1: that your dad sent to you down the stairs. You

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Speaker 1: know during the games. That's a that's a fun bit

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Speaker 1: because you know who would you know, look at me,

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Speaker 1: you know who would have won that one? Um anyway? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: uh No, the only game I remember going to as

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Speaker 1: a as a kid was the the eight Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: year the Bengals started, I think six or seven and

439
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Speaker 1: know that year and they were playing the Jets, which

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Speaker 1: Dan was on here to hear this, but they just

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Speaker 1: laid it on the Jets that year, and I almost

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Speaker 1: became a Bengals fan. But at that time, I didn't

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Speaker 1: really know much about football and I didn't care much

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Speaker 1: about football. And then what really sealed it with me

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals is I this is just all the

446
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Speaker 1: kids at home that we should teach you not to gamble,

447
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Speaker 1: but I got two dollars that the Bengals will win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and ainst the forty miners, and uh

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Speaker 1: and I lost that two dollars and I you know,

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Speaker 1: after that, I was never in on him again. Could

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Speaker 1: you remember, Oh my god, what was Chris? It was

452
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Speaker 1: a good time to get out, by the way, what

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Speaker 1: was Chris like in that time? Like as a fan?

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Speaker 1: Because I can only imagine considering the dossier that he

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Speaker 1: built up, um detailing all the reasons he decided to

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Speaker 1: divorce the Bengals. I have to imagine at that age

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Speaker 1: where he was, you know, in high school around at

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Speaker 1: that point or you know that it was a it

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Speaker 1: was a passionate marriage, a passionate fandom. Yeah, he would

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Speaker 1: have been in eighth or ninth grade at that time,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, he he loved the Bengals for the next

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Speaker 1: five or six years. Mid nineties is when he started

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Speaker 1: to sour on them. And by the end of the nineties,

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Speaker 1: turning the millennium, he was way out on I know, ownership,

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Speaker 1: it's ownership that was the whole thing. And I do think,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I want to believe because they have

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, they have Joe Burrow. So everything's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: And as long as you have an elite quarterback, you're

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Speaker 1: always a contender. All you need is something to go

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Speaker 1: right or for him to get hot. And that's what

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Speaker 1: happened last year. Now, I'll tell you this, like he

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Speaker 1: may have got them to the playoffs, but that defense

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Speaker 1: got him to the super Bowl. And I'm questioning that

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Speaker 1: defense now without some of these superstars and some of

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Speaker 1: these average players suddenly aren't gonna look very good. I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: in the scheme isn't gonna work quite as well when

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Speaker 1: you don't have the elite players. I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: And uh, when I think about ownership, I don't think

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Speaker 1: like things are gonna go south. They're gonna be contenders,

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Speaker 1: and I think they'll make the playoffs this year. I

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Speaker 1: just think of how long Marvin Lewis was there, and

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Speaker 1: I think Marvin Lewis did a good job on balance,

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Speaker 1: as Solomon Solomon Wilcox like to say he raised the Titanic,

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Speaker 1: uh compared to where they were before. But I can

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Speaker 1: just imagine Zach Taylor in year eleven, and uh, they

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Speaker 1: win some of these wild card games that Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: couldn't win and maybe they get to some a conference

488
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Speaker 1: championship here there, but the offensive line still there and

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Speaker 1: they're just loyal to Zach Taylor and that they're ever

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Speaker 1: quite fulfilling their potential. I hope that's not what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen, but I think that's where ownership might have

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Speaker 1: to think. Is this the guy we want with Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow for the rest of his career? We will see.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk running backs. One more question. It's just yes

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Speaker 1: or no. If Joe Burrow was on those teams instead

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Speaker 1: of Andy Dalton, do they win playoff games? Of course,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Probably they probably win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, that's what do you Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about winning the Super Bowl, but they would make it

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Speaker 1: pretty far. They could have been in the mix. Those

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Speaker 1: teams were better than last year's Bengals teams, at least

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Speaker 1: a few of them were, certainly so. The offensive line certainly,

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Speaker 1: but I think the coaching was better, uh, on both sides.

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Speaker 1: But I know too hard on this back. Okay, six

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Speaker 1: pure runners best pure runners in the NFL right now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm basing this on this season alone. So this

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Speaker 1: was really painful. It's like when people make these thos, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's the top five running back. It's like you just

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Speaker 1: like to say, at and then you have to look

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Speaker 1: at the list and think about the players you're not including. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it's very difficult. Here are some players that aren't

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Speaker 1: even on this list. Austin Ekeler is not on this list.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, who I think could be the best running

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Speaker 1: back in the league. I'm saying for this season when

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to make this list, and and then and

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Speaker 1: you'll hear these names, tell me who you would put

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Speaker 1: him on over he didn't quite make it. Joe Mixon

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Speaker 1: definitely didn't make it this year. He's not running that well,

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Speaker 1: but normally he could be in that mix. Um, all right,

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Speaker 1: I had I think I had a tie at six

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Speaker 1: because I had too many. Uh, tie it sex. I

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Speaker 1: can't make a list and not put Alvin Kamara on there.

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Speaker 1: And then I tied him with Aaron Jones. Uh, your

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Speaker 1: brother one of your brother's favorite runners. And even if

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Speaker 1: you take his receiving out of the mix. As a

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Speaker 1: pure runner, those two guys are are just incredible. Any

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Speaker 1: problems with them, I don't have problems with either one

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Speaker 1: of them. Well, here's the thing. You're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: problems because all these players are so good. But I'll

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Speaker 1: give you the whole list, and then and then we

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Speaker 1: can uh talk about the whole list, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll say goodbye. Uh. Josh Jacobs is next for me

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Speaker 1: on the list. The way he just has earned it.

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Speaker 1: He breaks more tackles I think than anyone in the

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Speaker 1: league in terms of making that first guy miss. He's

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Speaker 1: earned it. Sae Quon Barkley is there. Of course, he

537
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Speaker 1: can do everything, but now he's more decisive and when

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Speaker 1: he makes his cuts, he's always moving forward and he's

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: just better at it. I think he's a different player

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Speaker 1: than he was as a rookie. I'm probably gonna forgetting

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Speaker 1: forgetting someone here, but Derrick Henry is now next, and

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Speaker 1: he was at number one on my list. Maurice Jones

543
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: drew who I do Monday Night Football's with on Channel five.

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Speaker 1: He convinced me Derrick Henry has to be number one

545
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Speaker 1: because there's no one in the NFL that can do

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Speaker 1: what he can, no one that you can put an

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Speaker 1: entire offense on for a month at a time, and

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Speaker 1: he's just going to carry you and that's a pretty

549
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: strong argument. But you know, tonight it was the Browns night,

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Speaker 1: and I want to give the number one slot to

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb because if my children's life depended on it,

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Speaker 1: and someone told me, you need someone to get you

553
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: four yards on this play or six yards on this play,

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Speaker 1: and you could pick one running back, who are you

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Speaker 1: gonna pick? I am taking Nick Chubb. And he had

556
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: nothing super flashy about it. But it's the vision, it's

557
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: the patient. It's waiting until he can see a hole

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00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: and then as he's cutting, he's moving forward as he's

559
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: cutting and he gets what's there and he gets a

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: little extra Nick Chubb and Browns fans Monday night, this

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Speaker 1: is your super Bowl. That's it. I honestly, I am

562
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: not going to argue with it as a bias Titans fan.

563
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I came into the studio when you said this list,

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Speaker 1: and I told you, I think Nick Chubb is the

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Speaker 1: best running back Derrick Henry has. Now last year he

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Speaker 1: got hurt, but the durability to handle the workload that

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Speaker 1: he handles, and you have people arguing on Twitter all

568
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: the time like, oh, if this running back had as

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00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: many carry Derrick Henry, he couldn't do. But that's the

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Speaker 1: whole point. You know, those running backs can't handle thirty

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Speaker 1: two carries in a game and continue the efficiency that

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Speaker 1: Henry does. But what you just said is true, Like

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Speaker 1: there are some plays where Henry gets hit in the

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Speaker 1: backfield by a guy that he should break the tackle

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Speaker 1: on and he just doesn't always break that tackle and

576
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Speaker 1: it's like a four yard loss and the whole drive

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00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: is killed for the Titans. That doesn't really happen in

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. So I agree with you. I think Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb is the best pure runner. That list is fair,

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Speaker 1: and if I was picking a team or picking one

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Speaker 1: to build a team around, I'd probably take Henry. But

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Speaker 1: when I look at rationally, Nick Chubb's the best running

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Speaker 1: back in the league. I just want to be able.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be able to beat people in

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Speaker 1: the submission and my and especially in the North. You

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00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: can't get wrong with Chubb or Henry, but I wanna

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but Henry is gonna beat

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00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: up the defense and they're gonna get worn down and

589
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose, potentially lose games in the future and

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: put me in a better pause should be get home

591
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: field advantage in the playoffs. If you have Henry that's

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00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: the only difference, I think. And he runs so hard,

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00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he just slow. He's been slalloming through people.

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Speaker 1: I I think you're looking great. But this felt like

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00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: the Browns night. And that was only six players. By

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00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: the way, I guess Dalvin Cook was gonna be my

597
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: tied for six guy, but I had integrity. I kept

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00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: the list at six. But Dalvin Cook fans, you know

599
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: that he would have been seven. Graver wants to talk.

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Speaker 1: Where's Jonathan Taylor this season? You know he's not there

601
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: in the game losing fumble on Sunday. That's what I mean.

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00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: E t n is not on this list either, and

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00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's in that category yet, but in

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Speaker 1: terms of what he's doing right now week after week,

605
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: like Damian Pierce could be there, they haven't. There's just

606
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: so many good running backs. Sorry, I thought Nick was

607
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: gonna just yell at me and argue just for the

608
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: same I mean, it's Lebron Lebron, you know Jordan's style.

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00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that was me having more fun

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00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: than anything with that argument because I know it would

611
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: get a rise out of Chris. But uh, you know

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00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I really can't argue. And

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: with running backs, it's all a matter of style and preference,

614
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: pure pure running football. Um, I can't really argue with

615
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: those top seven. You could put Dalvin Cook instead of Jones.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it's it's I'll take either one of them on

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: my team. I uh, I would take Nick on my team.

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00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I uh I uh. You know, have this picture and

619
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Speaker 1: with Dan and all the Wesleyan brothers at the super Bowl,

620
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: and we just like, we look so out of place

621
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Speaker 1: because Dan and I are just clearly like you guys

622
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: all look just like the wesley brothers and then there

623
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: are similar features in the middle. And I love it.

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00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: And uh, I love that you're still part of the

625
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: show every week, locking up the wrong team week after

626
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: week for the man Cincinnati Zoo. I mean, what's our

627
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: magic number to eliminate you? Right now? I think I

628
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: think we're almost there. You the Browns have a much

629
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: better chance of making the playoff than you do winning

630
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: this lot competition. I'm just happy you weren't the whimp

631
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: this week. And it was the other three that took

632
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: the six point favorites this week and not you. See,

633
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: you took a good game. Titans were only two and

634
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: a half game. Actually, you don't even look at the

635
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: stats when you're making things up, and that was actually

636
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: a pick them by game time the Texas game because

637
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: Malik Willis was starting. But you're right, do you care

638
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: what it was? Everybody in the world the Titans were

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Speaker 1: winning that game. You hit out at me all week

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Speaker 1: that I only take big favorites while you're taking. By

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Speaker 1: the way, you took a bigger favorite this week and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. Then I took in the Seahawks and Gino

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Speaker 1: came through. All right, that was Monday Night football. Great

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Speaker 1: job by the Bengals, great job by Nick Westling, great

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Speaker 1: job by Grave Digger. We will be back on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: with Colleen Wolf and are regularly scheduled week of shows

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Speaker 1: on we go week nine. Can you believe we're here?

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Speaker 1: We're not halfway though, there's eighteen weeks when we're weak

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Speaker 1: for that. Until then, you know what to do, Nick, say, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's a pul