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Speaker 2: will have a great tribute to Ricky Henderson. Was arondom

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Speaker 2: enough to know the stories that are true. And I'll

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Speaker 2: reflect briefly on some of the more, some of the

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Speaker 2: more I I brought raising statistics that he put up

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Speaker 2: even after the age of forty. And we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in a bit. I will not forget. But we

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Speaker 2: heading into this week, and I said many times look

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Speaker 2: for this first week and to be a chalk event.

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Speaker 2: I did not predict all four home teams woulden buy

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Speaker 2: accumulative total of eighty seven points, but I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: You won't hear any complaints from me because we have

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Speaker 2: a playoff who nobody said it was going to be perfect.

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Speaker 2: The committee is too concerned about making a mistake, so

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Speaker 2: they ended up making what are perceived mistakes. But it

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Speaker 2: has now opened the door for an entirely new narrative.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for it? And give it up to

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Speaker 2: Kirk Curve Street, who is typically usually and I respect Kurt.

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Speaker 2: I remember when he was a quarterback at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: His son's about to be a Division one quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: he does a solid job. He is definitely about as

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Speaker 2: exciting as warm dishwater, but he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: And he came out, he came off the top rope,

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Speaker 2: you know, this morning and he basically said any and

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Speaker 2: I had no business of being on the field with

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. They're a bous I'm paraphrasing. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to say. And I'm a well man, Kurt Kirk, it's

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Speaker 2: not Kurt, it's Kirk. Apologize, it's not Kurt Cobaine, it's

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Speaker 2: Kirk Kirk FIRB Street. I'm like, whoa baby? Who looked

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Speaker 2: the red off your lollipop? Who pissed in your corn flakes?

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Speaker 2: But I'm here for it because it engenders a discussion,

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Speaker 2: and are you ready for the new debate? And here

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Speaker 2: we go, fix your file, super nuts. Here we go, right,

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Speaker 2: are you ready for the new debate deserving or Best?

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Speaker 2: But before we get to that, I want to say this,

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Speaker 2: we at least now have a format and the template

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Speaker 2: of what I think will be a more tightened up

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Speaker 2: future format in the coming years to get rid of

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Speaker 2: some of these peccadillos. Because in what sport do you

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Speaker 2: wake up? And I'll, for instance, I'll insert Luke Fickles,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bearcat's team of a few years back. You can

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Speaker 2: go eleven, you can do everything you want, and you

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Speaker 2: have no path to the playoff. Basically they stuck them

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Speaker 2: in there one year. But you get my point. You

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Speaker 2: can have a championship caliber season, but you can't play

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Speaker 2: for championship. Hey, what sport do you have that? Well?

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Speaker 2: It was college football? Not at least you don't have that.

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Speaker 2: So we're making progress, I think. But deserving or best,

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Speaker 2: now let's agree on this. There's no universal definition because

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Speaker 2: even the committee, even the committee has contradicted themselves from

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Speaker 2: last year to this year. And let's just take okay,

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Speaker 2: ole Miss or Indiana. You think Ole Miss would have

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Speaker 2: given Notre Dame a better game? I do doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: Indiana maybe he didn't deserve to be there. Would Alabama

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Speaker 2: have been better than SMU? And I heard smart guys

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Speaker 2: on Twitter saying, well, what evidence do you have that

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Speaker 2: Alabama would have been more competitive against Penn State or

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Speaker 2: against you know, Notre Dame then the teams who made

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Speaker 2: it there. Well, I don't have any evidence, but I

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Speaker 2: think I have empirical evidence. It's suggest to me that

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Speaker 2: give them the DNA and the culture and the history

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Speaker 2: of that program in a one game of affair, they

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Speaker 2: would have been more competitive. And I also do believe

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Speaker 2: Alabama would have beaten Indiana most likely. And you know

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Speaker 2: they play Old Miss, so you can watch that game

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Speaker 2: every few years. So deserving implies someone or something or

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Speaker 2: a team that's earned recognition or they've earned a reward

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Speaker 2: based on their efforts. Best refers to the highest quality,

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Speaker 2: your most superior option. But I'm telling you Bill Hancock

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Speaker 2: can say the most deserving is not anything, and he's

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Speaker 2: right because last year Florida State was deserving. They were

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Speaker 2: eleven and one. They lost their quarterback and said you

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Speaker 2: the stupid four team made for TV Invitational tournament when

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Speaker 2: the problem starts to rear its head, because these criteria

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Speaker 2: do we know you the best just because you say

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Speaker 2: best pedigree. But deserving can also include factors like overcoming

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Speaker 2: adversity or challenges, or just playing a tougher schedule. Seeing

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Speaker 2: by those definitions, and there again there is no universal

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Speaker 2: Deserving can be more subjective because it does involve in

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Speaker 2: judgments about effort and character and circumstances. Who are again, best,

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Speaker 2: theoretically is typically based on measurable performance. These are journalistic definitions,

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Speaker 2: but they don't apply because Indiana was deserving. Well A

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Speaker 2: check that Indiana was the best based on measurable performance.

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Speaker 2: But back to kirk they won eleven games, Alabama lost three,

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Speaker 2: But Kirk Kirkstreet said, I don't give a damn. If

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Speaker 2: you want to eleven, who'd you be? Well, they can

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Speaker 2: only be who gets off the bus. And you know,

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Speaker 2: do you focus on the process, the committee or the outcome?

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Speaker 2: Because deserving should consider the journey and the challenges, while

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Speaker 2: the best is basically the final result. Again, you might

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Speaker 2: vote for Indiana there if Aliens decided this deserving what

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Speaker 2: Maybe a team fought hard all season, they overcame injuries

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Speaker 2: championship opportunity even if they are statistically the best based

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Speaker 2: on their win loss record. Or then back to the best,

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Speaker 2: they play. So you see what I did there? We

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Speaker 2: accomplish nothing, but we created a sports debate. Well I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm just participating in the debate and I'm reiterating the

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Speaker 2: fact that there is no universal definition. There are always

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Speaker 2: going to be complaints. And even Lane Kiffin went stupid

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Speaker 2: on Twitter? Why would you do that? Because he's pissed

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Speaker 2: he thinks his team's better than some of the teams

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Speaker 2: in the tournament, but he had a chance to play

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Speaker 2: and earn his way in during the season. But he

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Speaker 2: played a tougher schedule than a lot of other teams.

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Speaker 2: So again, we're going to go round and round and

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Speaker 2: tell me these games weren't fun to watch. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: were blowoffs basically, But what do we take away? Home field?

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Speaker 2: want to get at least one home field game, at

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Speaker 2: least SMU, that was a mismatch. They played seventy five degrees.

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Speaker 2: great job elevating his team. But in this high leverage situation,

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Speaker 2: you look like Jameis Winston. It was brutal. So look,

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Speaker 2: the one thing we know about Penn State they continue

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Speaker 2: to be bumps players. Now, SMU, you're not bumps. Don't

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Speaker 2: listen selectively. I know we got a lot of listeners

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Speaker 2: in Texas. They had a great year, all right, they

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Speaker 2: ran into a busaw. It's twenty degrees Penn State in

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Speaker 2: James Franklin, we know their team has flaws. They're really good.

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Speaker 2: Just do it once against the Georgia or Oregon or

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Speaker 2: o hoiuse and then I'll shut up and you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get your chance here in a couple weeks or ten

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Speaker 2: and a half point favorite at Poise State, by the way,

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Speaker 2: but they ended up playing all four quarters because that's

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Speaker 2: the rules. But it was pretty clear early on SMU

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Speaker 2: was not going to advance Texas. Listen, everybody who had

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Speaker 2: a Paul said, just run the ball. Run the ball,

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Speaker 2: and Steve Sarkisian did that. They ran for two hundred

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Speaker 2: they turned to do their version of Army and air force.

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Speaker 2: But they did what they had to do, and they advanced.

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Speaker 2: The better team advanced. The better team advanced in Penn State,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. You know, I had a high school football

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Speaker 2: coach once said, if we bring our best and they

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Speaker 2: bring their best. We want our best to be better

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Speaker 2: than their best. Ohio State has that gear. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if they can do it in the Rose Bowl in

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Speaker 2: a couple weeks or one point favorite against Oregon. Ohio

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Speaker 2: State's defense was impressive. They relentlessly pressure Nico first play

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Speaker 2: of the game, four sacks, six tackles for loss, countless pressures.

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Speaker 2: enough to win an actional title. It is will they Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be decided on the field. That's why

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Speaker 2: I like this. And by the way, yeah, SMU, you

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Speaker 2: just ran into a buzzsaw. Meanwhile, Clemson, they are who

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Speaker 2: we thought they were. They were one of the top

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Speaker 2: have the depth now and Texas basically showed you right

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Speaker 2: and you know, put it right there on film. The

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Speaker 2: a debate that will rage Fish or File super nuts

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Speaker 2: deserving our best. It ain't going away. But guess what

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Speaker 2: A week from Tuesday night we have Boise State hosting

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Speaker 2: Penn State, and we have a tripleheader. On New Year's Day,

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Speaker 2: we actually have a playoff. Another league that has a

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Speaker 2: playoff is called the National Football League. Coming up. We

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Speaker 2: do it every week eleven fifteen Pacific time. Steve Fessick

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Speaker 2: and the Physick five. We've got a lot to unpack,

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Speaker 2: including I'm gonna ask him, who do you trust? Kansas

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Speaker 2: City continues to just be bank for me. I'm so

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Speaker 2: sick of this narrative, this group think echo chamber narrative

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Speaker 2: having to do with they've been lucky either this what

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Speaker 2: is wrong with you people? Yeah? You know Tom sever

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Speaker 2: He's really lucky. Every time he pitches. The other hitters

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Speaker 2: are having a bad day. Kansas City is the most

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Speaker 2: opportunistic team in high leverage situation. They got ice cold

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Speaker 2: water in their veins. They got maybe the best coaching

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Speaker 2: football in Andy Reid, the best quarterback in football, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: Other teams wish they had, and that's exactly why they

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Speaker 2: only one they covered today. But do you trust him?

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Speaker 2: Not everybody does. I certainly do, But there are other

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Speaker 2: don't give a damn what Baltimore did today. Let's you

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Speaker 2: know what, Let's see what happens when Baltimore gets down

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Speaker 2: the field against Kansas City. You know what. Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 2: record is against Bagnola's Chiefs defense, one and four, completing

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Speaker 2: only average twenty two points a game. Do it against

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Speaker 1: The time, it's the Physick five.

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Speaker 2: These are the five things you need to hear about.

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Speaker 2: All right, fanz, we've got a double bonus because we

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Speaker 2: have this thing called the College Football Playoff and lines

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well the format. Everyone should be fired, not because

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Speaker 5: twelve teams are in awesome, but you can't give bias

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Speaker 5: going to create problems. But given you're going to do that,

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Speaker 2: Burnie. Yeah, I think two things they need to It's

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a great idea that I guess maybe

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Speaker 5: you just can't have this. I mean, everyone knows Ohio

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Speaker 2: Other, and that's fair. That's fair. So we'll just leave

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Speaker 5: Oh that's interesting. So there are you know, I would

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Speaker 5: So is Penn State? Can they?

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Speaker 5: Boise in Glendale, Arizona? Sure they could, but it's you know,

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Speaker 2: There you go. That's my that's my upset possibility. I

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Speaker 2: know it's cliche. You can't turn the bowl over, get

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Speaker 2: They only lost by three at Oregon, never trailed by

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Speaker 2: the blue field where Boise has produced more than one miracle.

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Speaker 5: So no, it's going to be a red field because I.

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Speaker 2: Apologize, you know, I apologize, I apologizes. I'm not completely

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Speaker 5: But Boise's still you know, bring up a good point.

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Speaker 5: It's going to root for Boise here, not for Penn State,

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Speaker 2: You got to remember Penn State was gifted fourteen points

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Speaker 5: It looked like a drunk dude from Costa Rica crossing

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Speaker 5: That was really bad play by I know that you

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Speaker 5: tweeted that you thought, well, the pressure got to him,

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Speaker 5: but the cold could not have helped Barney.

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Speaker 2: Well look fair enough, It's what you would call you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to my grave on that one.

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Speaker 2: This kid was lost.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to die on the general hill

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Speaker 5: that the market just does not reflect enough the weather differences.

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Speaker 5: it's cold in Tennessee. It's colder in Columbus, and that

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Speaker 2: Buckeives it is an advantage, but how do you quantify it?

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Speaker 5: That's a great point, but it's worth more than a half,

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, buddy, let's dive into this lake. There

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Speaker 2: are already, you know, four games in the books, or

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Speaker 2: check that three before we head into Sunday. Do you

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Speaker 2: Denver Chargers Casey Houston Pittsburgh, Baltimore. I continue to believe

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Speaker 2: a solar eclipse and all these No, they're just the best.

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Speaker 2: What we are seeing is a reincarnation of wash Montana

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Speaker 5: Got Hollywood Brown and Pachaco back, and so the offense

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Speaker 5: you can talk me into Kansas City, who's power rating

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Speaker 5: I have been carrying at a really low level. You

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Speaker 5: know it's going to bump higher when they go to

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Speaker 5: the playoffs and they're going to go all out, which

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Speaker 5: you could make a case that this is the most

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Speaker 5: You know how that turned out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I want to I want

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Speaker 2: ESPN today. Oh, they mean three and a half. I'll

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Speaker 2: take it all day long. Good for you, Good for you.

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Speaker 2: How that work out for you based on what back

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Speaker 2: to back defending champs. Oh, by the way, they're fourteen

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Speaker 2: to one, and Fez, you mentioned their offense, their defense. Hello,

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Speaker 2: that's Bagnola defense. Fifteen sacks in the last four weeks,

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Speaker 2: pressures hurries. They did their job today, ended the game

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Speaker 5: Fez odds because they had a lapse in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the year where they just weren't playing nearly at

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Speaker 5: the level. But you know what, they're nine and one,

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Speaker 5: they're ten to one, they're eleven in one. They don't

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Speaker 2: Sez, let's go through some games here. Cincinnati Cleveland. Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: mathematically is alive. They're hosting Jameis Winston, who just threw

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Speaker 2: two more pick sixes in our conversation. Your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: Game, Well, things have gone from bad to worse. So

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Speaker 5: it couldn't get worse than Jameis Winston. Or we couldn't

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Speaker 5: get worse in Watson and then Winston, Well he started

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Speaker 5: to flame out. And now we have DTR at quarterback

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Speaker 5: and that is a two point downgrade for Dorian Thompson

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Speaker 5: Robinson and he can't play Bernie. So I the lines

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Speaker 5: up to nine and a half. I could only play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I like DTR. I mean he

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields quarterback camp. Drop back. Oh there's two wide

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Speaker 2: open guys. Oh what the hell, I'll just take off

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Speaker 2: and runs like a play.

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Speaker 5: It's spot on. He's a college quarterback. He can't play

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Speaker 2: The Bengals are laying a big number nine, would you

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Speaker 5: I teez it down to the two and there you

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Speaker 5: go there, going to the absolutely, we'll see you Cincinnati, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, says I really had to hold my nose on

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Speaker 2: this one, but I can't lie. I grabbed the Bears

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Speaker 2: in the six and a half points, You got the floor.

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Speaker 5: All right? Mandatory forty dollars fine, Bernie. And you know

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Speaker 5: why because asymmetric risk, you never take plus two and

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Speaker 5: a half. You never takes plus six and a half.

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Speaker 5: Plus seven is now a just popped up as being available.

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Speaker 5: And I agree.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to do another forty dollars fine for

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Speaker 5: I know at eighty dollars if you spent more than

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Speaker 5: that cockroach bookies charge through the nose for it. But

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Speaker 5: the good news is indeed at major books like Bookmaker

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Speaker 5: right now, I agree with your handicap. Who the heck

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Speaker 5: are the Lions with all these injuries? Now they were

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Speaker 5: they're laying seven and it's in Chicago, And I know

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Speaker 5: the Bears have played worse, but the Lions are decimated

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Speaker 5: on defense. Switts have a big game, revenge game. Swift

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Speaker 5: over fifty five rush yards Bears plus seven. I concur

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Speaker 2: Bring up a great point, but you don't have to

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Speaker 2: pay the big if you win the bet now and

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Speaker 2: the Lions are only two and nine, is road chocolate

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Speaker 2: more than four points? You got a hot house team,

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Speaker 2: bad weather, Fez. You know I'm still plugged in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: They have ten defensive players on IR that started at

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Speaker 2: think Detroit can win the game. I don't need to

430
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: be a fish better, but it would not surprise me

431
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: if they won by three or a lost dot right, Fez,

432
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: I concur.

433
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 5: We are on the same page. We just have a

434
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 5: little difference in how we're getting at it. Yes, no,

435
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: and I'm aniacally. Everyone who hasn't listened to me, I

436
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: am the worst guy to end the world to ever

437
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 5: play blackjack with like like literally, if somebody like like

438
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 5: hits twelve against the three when the count's plus four,

439
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, what are you doing? Are you not card

440
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 5: killing you? You're supposed to stay the count's good. So

441
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: I'm a pain in the neck when it comes.

442
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: With another blackjack analogy. When I see a divisional team

443
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: in December, hoth house going on. There's situations here that

444
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: this game faz This is like getting eights and aces

445
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: and not splitting them. You have to do that is

446
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: one of the only statistical advantagies you have over the

447
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: dealer because they're not allowed to do it. Fair fair analogy.

448
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 5: Yes, and I won't bore you with hal if you've

449
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 5: got pocket eights against the ten, you surrender if the

450
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 5: count's plus three or higher. But that's another thing.

451
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 2: That's an easy one. That's an easy one. I'm with you.

452
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: That's but okay, we better get out of this blackjack code.

453
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: A trendy play that I am not ready for. The

454
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: commando is catching four at home against against the Eagles,

455
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: and people I respect to fired on the commandos.

456
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, now the market is flipping them the bird?

457
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 5: What do I mean by that? Because the command the

458
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 5: commedis went down to three or early in the week,

459
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 5: and now all the money, the real money, the big

460
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 5: limit money is coming in on the Eagles, Bernie. They're

461
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 5: up to minus four in a lot of spots, and

462
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: I agree with it. I think the two teams going

463
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 5: in opposite directions, Eagles might be the best team in

464
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 5: the NFL. If I had to, I'd lay.

465
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: It, all right, I'm just not going to be involved

466
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: in that game. But again, another divisional team getting points

467
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: at home. I think this Eagles team is absolutely for real,

468
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: maybe the most complete team in football right now. Live

469
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. Flip a coin and they're a phenomenal second

470
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: half team, all right. Another trendy play arizonaly in five

471
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: and a half at Carolina. This feels like a pretty

472
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: good spot play for me. I only in five and

473
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: a half points on the road. It would not surprise

474
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: me if Arizona won by double digits.

475
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would leand Arizona. One thing I will say

476
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 5: about Buffalo, I'm going to disagree. I don't think Buffalo

477
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 5: is complete at all. Buffalo is just freaking awesome on offense,

478
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: so that offense.

479
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: Is tunistic on defense. Two, faz, don't go to sleep

480
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: on that they're not that bad. You got it. Let's

481
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to interrupt you, but let's channel the

482
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine New Orleans Saints who beat Indianapolis

483
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: in twenty ten. I know because I was driving across

484
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: country moving to Vegas that Saints defense was not great,

485
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: but it was good enough to complement a phenomenal offense,

486
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: which you just talked about in Buffalo. So you don't

487
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: need to be the eighty five Bears on defense if

488
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: you have Buffalo's offense.

489
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 5: I concur with that. Buffalo absolutely contender.

490
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: All right, another fairly trendy play. Some people I respect

491
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: are actually laying the heavy wood. Minus fourteen is Buffalo

492
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: hosts New England's tempting.

493
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't do it, just because you know, the Bills.

494
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: I don't like get distracted team. So they had the

495
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 5: two feet of snow, they had the snow game, right,

496
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 5: and then they had the game against the Rams where

497
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 5: you know, with the shootout, and then they have the

498
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 5: game against the Lions with the shootout. And so now

499
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: they come back home and I'm sure there's more snow

500
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 5: in Buffalo, and they can exhale and they can relax

501
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: a little bit. Of course they're going to win. I

502
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: just can't. I can't be laying fourteen given these other

503
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: high leverage games they just played.

504
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a great future for your bank roll

505
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: if you go around laying double digits for any reason,

506
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: especially against a divisional opponent. However, Fez, there are objective truth,

507
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: there are personal feelings. How can New England score in

508
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: this game? They couldn't score with a fist full of

509
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: fifties in a women's prison right now?

510
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, offensively, they have played better. You know,

511
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 5: I'll go ahead and I'll put New England down for twenty.

512
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: But you're right, I don't know, man, seventeen to twenty

513
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 5: will that be enough? We know this Buffalo doesn't punt Bernie.

514
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 5: That offense is awesome.

515
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just the Winds offense is playing batter or

516
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: that's the extreme optis of my friend. That's Alfred Ogilvie

517
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: and Bad News Bears. When coach Buttermaker said relaxed kids

518
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: Rome wasn't built in the day, he goes, no, coach,

519
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: it took several hundred years anyway, by channel Bad News Bears,

520
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: all right, the Atlanta Michael Pennix's since when does a

521
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: rookie have the right to lay eight and a half

522
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: points in his debut. I don't care if it get

523
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: it's against the Giants. I don't care if against the

524
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: Hopoken Zephyrs. I play half a unit on the New

525
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: York Giants. Just on principle, you don't put a rookie

526
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: at an NFL game in his first start ever, in

527
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: a high leverage situation like this and lay eight and

528
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: a half.

529
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: Well, presumably Lanta knows what they got more than I do,

530
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 5: when Kirk Cousins has been struggling so much. But yeah,

531
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: I mean there's too many unknowns. This is one of

532
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: those eight and a half point favorites I'm not going

533
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: to use in the teaser because I think that there

534
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 5: is variance. You know, from memory, Ogleby struggled big time

535
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: early in the season, but by the end of the

536
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: year he was killing the boy. But in fact he

537
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: hit a big double in the championship game.

538
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: If I recall correctly, that was that in it was

539
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: that in Bad News Bears two or one. That was

540
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: they didn't make the championship game, in Bad News Bearers

541
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: won and.

542
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 5: Bad News Bearers one. The Yankee coach came out and

543
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 5: so that's right, boy, they got the double again.

544
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: That's God rested his soul. Yeah, I don't want to

545
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: tell people hitch.

546
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 5: Him woe and outside, whoa and outside and then he

547
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 5: beans ogilvy the next pitch. And then they were smart.

548
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: Enough did they start Carmon Ronsoni that they all was

549
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: complain about stinking mound.

550
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: No, no, no warm up, bad field bull crap.

551
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah that was Tanner Boyle or or fiery shortstop. All right.

552
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: The Rams Land's short number against the Jets on the road, Dots.

553
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 5: Twenty degrees Lean Jets plus three.

554
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Really yes, Okay, let's just move on from that game,

555
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: because is I'm tired of all the Rams love they're

556
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: you know, when Safford's got in Akoua and cup, they're competitive,

557
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: but they we'll see, all right. Another trendy games, Seattle

558
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: catching three at home against Minnesota. People I respect think

559
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: Seattle wins this game out right?

560
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, okay, And by the way, I'm just giving

561
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 5: you Lians. I'm not actually betting all these games. So

562
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: these are just the Lians. Yeah, only about the games

563
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: you like. And maybe that I say with the Leans,

564
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 5: you know what, Green Bay was just laying three and

565
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: crushed Seattle. And now Gino's not one hundred percent. So

566
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: until I see Geno's healthy, I can't do it. I

567
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 5: cannot invest in Seattle.

568
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't know why Minnesota doesn't get more respect. They

569
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: have the same record as the Lions and the Eagles.

570
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Conversation for a different day, all right. Tampa Bay visits Dallas.

571
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield spectacular week last week, eighty one percent completion

572
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: rate through for two ninety four touchdowns. The Bucks are good.

573
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: They're They're not great, but they're good. I expect them

574
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: to roll over Dallas. And I'm not betting the game.

575
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I have.

576
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 5: A prop bet and Scott Seinberg passes on to me

577
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: Bernie and I do love this. Mike Evans gets a

578
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: huge bonus if he gets two hundred and fifty more

579
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 5: passing yards, and he needs to get like eighteen catches. Further,

580
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: he's chasing a thousand yard season, which would put him

581
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: with the NFL elite all time. So Mayfield has come

582
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: out and said, I'm going to get Evans the ball.

583
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 5: So Evan's over five and a half catches sure looks

584
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: good to me.

585
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Fortunately, Mike Evans never gets hurt, he'll never Oh, you know.

586
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: For a guy, isn't it amazing? He has a string

587
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: of nine straight thousand yard seasons and he's hurt every

588
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: year and he's so amazing.

589
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I can't bet props, man. I just don't.

590
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: I had a many years ago. You have horses for course.

591
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Is one of the Lakers, Derek. All he had to

592
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: do is make over one and a half three pointers

593
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: and you roll his ankle the first player of the game,

594
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: And okay, I think I know what I need not

595
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: to do anymore. Last game on the board. It's an

596
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: odd line to me. The Niners laying one at Miami.

597
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Your thoughts.

598
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: You know, I liked Miami and all the professionals are

599
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 5: betting with both this on San frand that's now the

600
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: one half point favorite. Let's tease Miami. It should be

601
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: a close game. I need something to tease the Bengals with, right,

602
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: So let's use Miami up from plus one a half

603
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: to plus seven f If you don't like that as

604
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 5: a teaser, you could certainly use Jacksonville against the Raiders alternatively,

605
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 5: same sort of situation.

606
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: All right, says, do you have best bet for the

607
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: folks that you would care to share.

608
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: Monday night football, Green Bay Packers. If you've been watching

609
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 5: these Packers, they want the ball, they strike first, they

610
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: strike hard, no mercy that it's a point of emphasis

611
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: for them to get the lead. So we're gonna play

612
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 5: the Packers in the first half, Bernie minus eight against

613
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: what's left of the New Orleans Saints.

614
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna crush New Orleans. I agree. I agree, that's

615
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: going to be there's a theory that there will not

616
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: allow children under sixty to watch that game because it

617
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: could be very violent, be very violent. I love the

618
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: cheese heads man number six seed. I like everything you're

619
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: doing there. Give you know. They're a young team, they're

620
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: a hungry team, they are talented team.

621
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 6: I like it.

622
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: It's a deadpool game, Bernie. It's going to get ugly

623
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: r rated.

624
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: What what would mister T predict for this game? In

625
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: one word? Payne, look at you? You know what? It

626
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: went even better than it didn't rehearsal, nicely done, fast,

627
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: nicely done. All right, enjoy. I know you're off next week,

628
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: but we'll have you back. Are you still coming back

629
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: to do this anymore? Are you retiring?

630
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 5: We'll have our contract negotiations. We'll see what we can

631
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 5: we can cook up here. Maybe I just go and

632
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: across the Atlantic and jam with the stones.

633
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Bernie, Okay, Well, you can't get you can't always get

634
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: what you want, but you find sometimes you get what

635
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: you need. That is Stevesick. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

636
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 6: Bernie.

637
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: At five, coming up, what was the biggest news in

638
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: the NFL this week? We kind of touched upon it

639
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: and I gotta tell you that, man, how would you

640
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: like to take one hundred million and flush your right

641
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: down the toilet? Football fans, I'll be sure to tune

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Speaker 2: Who have you covered? Three hours before kickoff? Every Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattles Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio come to live through Tarak dot Com studios here

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. So Atlanta hosts the New York Giants

653
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Speaker 2: Sunday late and eight and a half. And you know

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00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: your quarterback must be in one hell of a deep

655
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: funk when you're gonna bench him, and even though you

656
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Speaker 2: know you've guaranteed him one hundred million dollars and you're

657
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Speaker 2: going to replace him with a rookie. Nonetheless, a fine,

658
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: fine looking young rookie who had the good common sense

659
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Speaker 2: to order a hot dog at Costco, although he got

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Speaker 2: the call while he was in line, and all of

661
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: a sudden, he said, I wasn't hungry no more. I

662
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: get it because you got that not in your stomach

663
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Speaker 2: and you're excited to make your NFL debut and your

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Speaker 2: team is number nine in the overall seed in the

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Speaker 2: playoff picture is to have a twenty four percent chance

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Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. And so ladies and gentlemen, boys

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Speaker 2: and girls, police stay seated for the entire performance. Rookie

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Speaker 2: Michael Panics and the Falcons are heading into their well.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's not the penultimate game, because it's not

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Speaker 2: second to last it's the third to last. Knowing knowing,

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Speaker 2: whatever happens Sunday could very much decide the team's playoff fate,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to be Michael Pennix's debut as a

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Speaker 2: starter in the National Football League. The good news is

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Speaker 2: they host the lowly Giants. The bad news is they're

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Speaker 2: still an NFL team, And as Jim Leaving the once

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Speaker 2: told me, yeah, they get scholarships on the other side

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Speaker 2: there as well. And yes they're on a nine game

678
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Speaker 2: losing streak, but NFL teams riding a nine game losing

679
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: streak in the last twenty five years are actually eighteen

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Speaker 2: and eight against the spread in that tenth game, including

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Speaker 2: six and one in the last seven. Meanwhile, the Falcons

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to hear that it's a must win,

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00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: the dumbest argument in all the sports when making a

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Speaker 2: case to Handy Kapan must win. You probably already know this,

685
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Speaker 2: but there are thirty two teams in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one of the thirty two will lose the game

687
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Speaker 2: they must win. So must win is not a motivation

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Speaker 2: be that as it made. It's a lot of points.

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Speaker 2: So how does this happen? And could the sports gods,

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Speaker 2: maybe once throw the Falcons a bone. They drafted Matt

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Speaker 2: Ryan third overall in two thousand and eight. He started

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty two to two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: five games, lasted thirteen years, got to win Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You know what happened there. But since then it's been brutal.

695
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Speaker 2: And with your Marcus Mariota, who's five and eight, Desmond Rider,

696
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Speaker 2: he's eight and nine, Taylor Heineke won and three, and

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Speaker 2: Cousins one hundred million dollars seven and seven. His performance

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00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: made this necessary. Cousins performance made it necessary to make

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Speaker 2: a change in the last five games. Cousins, who's thirty

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Speaker 2: six not fifty six, nine interceptions and his dropback EPA

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Speaker 2: is worse than James bent Winston who also got benched,

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Speaker 2: and Toimy DeVito. Atlanta went one and four. Meanwhile, Michael

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Speaker 2: Penick says the chance now to prove that Atlanta might

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Speaker 2: have been more shrewd than people realized on draft day.

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Speaker 2: He had a strong preseason, and he obviously has all

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Speaker 2: the requisites, but in the first twenty minutes, let's just

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Speaker 2: put it this way, what has ever happened in the

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Speaker 2: past is strong preseason game against the Dolphins, which people

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Speaker 2: want to talk about. He's twenty four years old. He

710
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Speaker 2: does make a lot of throws and he was nine

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Speaker 2: to sixteen for one hundred and four yards. But he

712
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Speaker 2: does have the arm strength, he's got the aggression of

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Speaker 2: the attitude. He can manipulate a defense. But and Cousins

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Speaker 2: can no longer do that, apparently. But now here's Michael Pennis,

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Speaker 2: the third quarterback Atlanta's drafted in the first round in

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Speaker 2: the last fifteen years, and he's going to join the

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Speaker 2: other two, Ryan and Michael. Vick is giving this team

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to finally get the Falcons into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This is a high pressure, high leverage situation. Sorry, I've

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Speaker 2: taken eight and a half points and you can tweet

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Speaker 2: at me tomorrow that I'm an idiot. Maybe I am,

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Speaker 2: but laying eight and a half points a rookie, I've

723
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Speaker 2: seen this too many times. He may go out have

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Speaker 2: a day the New York Giants. No. And then, by

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Speaker 2: the way, you heard what the Cowboys said last week.

726
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Speaker 2: They were pissed. They were runner daughters to the Carolina

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Speaker 2: Watch this game tomorrow. It's gonna be a real referendum

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Speaker 2: coming up. Medina Magic, Little NBA talk, keep it locks

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Speaker 2: The National Basketball Association three words. It's that time. Mark

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Speaker 2: Medina are Fox Sports Radio NBA Guru. Mark, Good evening,

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Speaker 2: how are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing well, Bernie. You always have the drill when

741
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Speaker 6: it's midnight. It's always a good time because that means

742
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Speaker 6: I'm talking basketball too.

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Speaker 2: Now we'll be doing it a lot here in the

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Speaker 2: next ten days too. I'll be sitting for Mallard a

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Speaker 2: couple of times. The headlines don't stop coming. I want

746
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Speaker 2: to start with this one though, Mark that honestly I

747
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: think flew under the radar. Now I live in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: The NBA Cup last year was exciting. This year it

749
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Speaker 2: was a dead arena and that's been flown under the radar.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts Takeaway's opinions on that.

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Speaker 6: Well, it certainly doesn't help that the Lakers or the

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Speaker 6: Golden State Warriors that are New York next, or the

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Speaker 6: Boston Selex weren't in the n Citason Torment or the

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Speaker 6: NBA Cup Final. Those are all obviously big market teams

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Speaker 6: that have bigger audiences. So when you have a team

756
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Speaker 6: like the Milwaukee Bucks Oklahoma City Thunders, small market, that's

757
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Speaker 6: what happens. But I think this is also something frankly,

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Speaker 6: that the NBA was, you know, dreadfully anticipating before the

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Speaker 6: NBA Cup even started. I was on a conference call

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Speaker 6: with Evan Weiss, who's the nba is executive vice president

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Speaker 6: of Basketball Strategy, and you know, for the listener that

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Speaker 6: doesn't care about titles, he's basically the guru that oversees

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Speaker 6: the n Season Torment, NBA Cup, and he mentioned that

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Speaker 6: even though Las Vegas has been a fantastic homb in

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Speaker 6: his words for this in season tournament, he mentioned that

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Speaker 6: the NBA is not committed to Las Vegas beyond this season.

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Speaker 6: I think one of the reasons was they want to

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Speaker 6: keep all options on the table to see how this evolved.

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Speaker 6: But I think they're also very mindful that it may

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Speaker 6: not have the kind of atmosphere that you would hope

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Speaker 6: that would mirror, almost like a Final Four atmosphere, because

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Speaker 6: you know, if you don't have big market teams, they

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Speaker 6: don't travel as much.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's an excellent point, which I think is going

775
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Speaker 2: to segue into our next conversation, which we might get

776
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Speaker 2: into this a couple of layers deep. It's the recurring

777
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Speaker 2: narrative mark and no one can hide behind this anymore.

778
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: NBA ratings are down, and when Joe Missoula says, hell,

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Speaker 2: I don't even watch the NBA something else, I have

780
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Speaker 2: my thoughts. But rather than lead to Witness or Steven

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00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: or the conversation, I want to hear you first. And

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it can be cord cutting anymore.

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Speaker 2: I have a theory, but let's hear yours first.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we all know the external caveats of the

785
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 6: cord cut in. You know, people were paying attention to

786
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Speaker 6: the election, the World Series. I'm with you, it goes

787
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Speaker 6: beyond that, you know, the regular season, even with the

788
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 6: fact that they've trod to add some bells and whistles

789
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Speaker 6: at the same season tournament and having stronger player participation policy.

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Speaker 6: Casual fans aren't tuning in during the regular season. They

791
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Speaker 6: have this attitude of wake me up when the playoffs start.

792
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Speaker 6: Now here's the thing, Bernie. The NBA is never going

793
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 6: to say this out loud, but you know it is

794
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 6: something to be aware of. Of course, they want more

795
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Speaker 6: and more, you know, viewers to tune in, but that's

796
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Speaker 6: not what drives the revenue. Ratings don't determine that. What

797
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 6: determines the revenue are the TV rights deals. And the

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00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 6: TV rights deals they just signed would significantly higher and

799
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Speaker 6: you think, well, why is that. Well, I think cable

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Speaker 6: companies have made the pragmatic decision and even if they

801
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 6: are losing viewers, to accelerate their devise even more, all

802
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 6: you need to do is say, hey, let's not have

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Speaker 6: live sports program that's number one. Number two. You know,

804
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 6: there are a lot of streaming options, for better and

805
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 6: for worse. You know there's an audience there that doesn't

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Speaker 6: watch a live watch on replay. But I think on

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00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 6: the other side of the coin, it's been disruptive with

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Speaker 6: trying to find options on streaming because league tasks has

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00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 6: a lot of hiccups. It's subject of blackout dates and

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Speaker 6: local market Uh. You know, people who are subscribers to

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Speaker 6: multiple platforms can attest that sometimes there's logging issues with passwords.

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00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 6: So it's not the most easy, consumer friendly way to

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Speaker 6: try to find a way to watch a game. But

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Speaker 6: I think that we have to keep in mind that

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Speaker 6: the NBA and the owners haven't said too much because

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Speaker 6: it hasn't affected the bottom line. The reality is what

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Speaker 6: drives the revenue is more of the TV right, steel

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Speaker 6: as a whole and Jersey sales and attendance, and so far,

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Speaker 6: for the most part, it's been good on that front.

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver needs to send you a commission. We know

821
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Speaker 2: the NBA is printing money, but you because you very

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Speaker 2: definitely you know, you very definitely patent push. I've become

823
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Speaker 2: complimenting you.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I don't need an invoice from them. I'm just

825
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 6: speaking you know, all the different variables here.

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Speaker 2: No, they should send you a commission for you. But look,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I went into great length last year

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Speaker 2: when the contract was inked, and you know, so that's

829
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Speaker 2: not the issue. Before I give my quick thought that

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Speaker 2: I want you to respond to Lebron James waited. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's rare for him to enter a conversation, whether he's

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00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: invited or not. It's really wonderful to hear what he's

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Speaker 2: got to say. Now, the cliche about all the shoot

834
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Speaker 2: too many threes, I'm completely dismissive of that, But that's

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Speaker 2: his premise. Do you hold any credences that's the only

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Speaker 2: reason people aren't watching because they shoot too many threes.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't agree.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't agree with that either. Now, look, you

839
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Speaker 6: look up the stats this year. You know the Boston

840
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 6: Celis are averaging over fifty three is a game, and

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00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes there have been games where you feel like,

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00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 6: you know what, like let's pass the ball a little

843
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 6: bit more and not just chuck, let's play some defense.

844
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Speaker 6: But I will say this, I think there's a lot

845
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Speaker 6: of games, staying back to last season this season that

846
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 6: are competitive. They are allowing games to play through contact

847
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Speaker 6: and there's a lot of skill involved. It's not like

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Speaker 6: teams are shooting threes the same way they did in

849
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Speaker 6: the All Star Game, which was abominable. It's a different

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Speaker 6: way they're doing it because they have the personnel, and

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00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 6: that's how the rule changes are. And I think one

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00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: thing that we have to keep in mind to the

853
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: listener here when they talk about, oh, well, it was

854
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 6: so much better in the nineties and the early two thousands. Look,

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Speaker 6: we all have selective nostalgic memory. Yeah, the times when

856
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 6: we saw Michael Jordan win championships and Kobe Bryant and

857
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 6: Shaquille O'Neil win championships, those were entertaining moments. But there's

858
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 6: a lot of bad regular season moments too. And it's

859
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: not a coincidence that the NBA changed its rules in

860
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: the early two thousands that eliminate hand checking to produce

861
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 6: a lot higher scoring games, because it was their calculus

862
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 6: that the game was getting way too rug and too

863
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 6: ugly and people were tuning out. And so these things

864
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 6: are cyclical, and what I'm getting at is that the

865
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 6: NBA will respond accordingly. I think leading into All Star

866
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 6: weekend last year, they did, you know, pass a word

867
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 6: to their thoughts that the referees got to allow teams

868
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 6: to be more physical, and as a result, you saw

869
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 6: defenses improve in the second half of the season. And

870
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 6: you know, they have a competition committee that implements rules,

871
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 6: so I want to be surprised that they do tinker

872
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 6: with things. Not to put a cap on number of threes,

873
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 6: because that could lead to more problems. But you know,

874
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 6: just implement rules that give teams an incentive to not

875
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 6: always rely on the three point shot. But look the

876
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 6: two pass out of the tube. There's so many skilled

877
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 6: players that can shoot threes. There are benefits with space

878
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 6: in the floor when you can shoot threes, well, that

879
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 6: produce points in the paint for big men. So yeah,

880
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 6: to your point, I think it's a simplistic thing to say, Yeah,

881
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 6: teams shoot two many threes. That's why people are tuning.

882
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: Here's my theory. Hear me out because I have a

883
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: long history of ties to the NBA. Not so much currently,

884
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: but I was an intern at the Forum Magic's Rickie

885
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: Year had full access, saw it all most of his

886
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: court side. I was a stringer in nineteen eighty eight

887
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: for the Old Herald Examiner for the nineteen eighty eight

888
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: Bad Boy Pistons. In that series it went seven, moved

889
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: to Detroit, covered the Pistons in official capacity, covered Larry

890
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: Brown's teams. Where am I going with this? So let's

891
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 2: also be honest that the NBA ratings are not only

892
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: down the women's college basketball ratings, you're down thirty eight percent. Well,

893
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: why Caitlin Clark's not there anymore? Which leads to a

894
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: theory and Dick Shapp always compliment. I mean one of

895
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: my favorite pieces and that is, we don't have royalty

896
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: in this country. Mark, Our athletes and our entertainers are

897
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: our royalty. And at one time we had Kareem West, Jordan,

898
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: Isaiah Byrd, Magic, Kobe right on down the line. These

899
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: are players with panache, real savoir faire. Who we have

900
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: now Lebron, Luca, Kobe. I mean no, we had Kobe.

901
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: We don't have any Kyrie. Now, Okay, where am I

902
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: going with this? I don't think that our fandom in

903
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: America is very personal. I don't think people give a

904
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: damn about these players. Whether they shoot threes or they

905
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: run the pick and roll, they don't care. They're not

906
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: compelling to watch. Brilliant athletes, technicians, skill level off the charts,

907
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: but when you add it all up, they don't measure

908
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: up to what I would consider the royalty past the

909
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: NBA players are. And that's not an old take. It

910
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: it's reality. Caitlin Clark's gone too. The ratings are down

911
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: thirty eight percent in women's basketball. So who are the

912
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: new torch Bears? You can't name one. I don't think

913
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: anybody can name one. And that's the larger issue.

914
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of things unpack here. Yeah, there's

915
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 6: not that defined generational star like Michael Jordan obviously, Lebron

916
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 6: James and Steph Curry and Kevin Durant are you know

917
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 6: still driving? Uh, you know, being being the faces of

918
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 6: the league and the Ogs and when they play, there's

919
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 6: a larger incentive for people to buy tickets and to

920
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 6: tune in. There are a handful of those younger players,

921
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 6: but out a singular player like a Jason Tatum and

922
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards, Victor Imbiniama. These are all nice appetizers so

923
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 6: to speak, but not good enough for entres. But I

924
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 6: think the other thing that we have to be mindful of,

925
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 6: which makes each era different, that for better and for worse,

926
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 6: the social media era changes things. You know, On one hand,

927
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: the NBA will say, you, look, we've grown because there's

928
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 6: so much engagement on social media from a global standpoint

929
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 6: and just people watching highlight reels. But the other thing

930
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 6: is that's oversaturated thing, the kind of the scare, the

931
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 6: longest scarcity in economics, and just the idea of it's

932
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 6: a novelty to watch an NBA game. That excitement is

933
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 6: no longer here because you can literally watch any game

934
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 6: you want with League pass on replay, and so it's

935
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 6: not that kind of appointment viewing that people in previous

936
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 6: errors were used to. And so I think all these

937
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 6: things factor into what we're saying. I think the complicated thing,

938
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 6: Bernie is clearly we've outlined so many different variables I

939
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 6: have contributed to this kind of discussion to stay of

940
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 6: the NBA, and that makes it that much more challenging

941
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 6: on how to address it because there's so many reasons

942
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 6: I contribute to it that one singular solution like let's

943
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 6: do an NBA Cup isn't going to fundamentally solve the problem.

944
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: Talking with Mark Medina and Adina Magic here every Saturday

945
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: night on the Bernie Fratto Show our Fox Sports Radio,

946
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: NBA goog you like to get below the surface and

947
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: tackle these journalists? Did you send us?

948
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 6: Yeah? I was going to say, like one thing I've

949
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 6: also have noticed in recent years being at the arenas themselves.

950
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 6: There's not as much buzz in arenas anymore. A lot

951
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 6: of it is even though people are in the stands,

952
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 6: you know, people are glued to their phones. The reaction

953
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 6: to plays, it's not as excite as it was before.

954
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 6: Arenas are blasting music even more to make up for

955
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 6: kind of that lack of arena atmosphere. And I'm speaking

956
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 6: as someone who's still in their thirties and not saying, oh,

957
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 6: you know, these kids today play loud music. I play

958
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: loud music still. I have noticed the dectible levels rising higher.

959
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 6: And the reason why they're doing that is fans aren't

960
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 6: as into the game as they were before. They're much

961
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 6: more into their phone. They're much more about kind of

962
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 6: the social event with being with friends as opposed to

963
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 6: watching the actual game and reacting accordingly.

964
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: But that doesn't translate to Major League Baseball. There was

965
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: major buzz around the country this year. Doesn't translate to

966
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: the NHL, where there's tremendous buzz even right here in

967
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Doesn't translate to the National Football League. I'm

968
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: telling you, the NBA has a problem with the next

969
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: generation what I consider to be transcendent athletes that people

970
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: like Now I'm not attacking these guys personally. I don't

971
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: know any of them. But the bottom line is this,

972
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: let's move forward. This is this is essentially a conversation

973
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: where there is no definitive, uh you know, a solution.

974
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: And I don't want to we don't want to sound

975
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: like an irrational freak herd. But the truth of the

976
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: matter is they're concerned. They're concerned in the NBA Ivory Tower,

977
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: and they can figure it out. They got plenty of

978
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: money to print. I want to go back to the

979
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: Lakers because all of a sudden, in the last three games,

980
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: they look really good. I'm not backing off my prediction

981
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: that there'll be a playing team. Look, they're the only

982
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: team in the winning record in the NBA that's got

983
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: a negative point differential. But somehow they've bolted past Golden State,

984
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: the Clippers, the Nuggets to fifth place. Now, who the

985
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: real Lakers? Because they go through these stretches where they

986
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: look like world beaters for three games and then you know,

987
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: they become a punchline and then they go back and forth.

988
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: Who are the real Lakers? Yeah?

989
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 6: The real Lakers is that they are a team that's

990
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 6: always going to be a few games above or below

991
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 6: five hundred, they have a chance to be a good team,

992
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 6: but also have a chance to what the bet in

993
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 6: certain games. I think why this three game winning streaks

994
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 6: happened is a few things. I think the most notable

995
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 6: is that Lebron James sat for a whole week where

996
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 6: he missed two games, had plenty of time to rest,

997
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 6: and that really rejuvenated him physically and mentally with his

998
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 6: left foot injury and just the fact that he's eight

999
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 6: days away from turning forty in his twenty second season.

1000
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 6: But this is all very fluid subject of change. Last week,

1001
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 6: when I asked him upon his return to what extent

1002
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 6: he felt that this left foot injury is behind him,

1003
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 6: he made it clear that the injury isn't behind him.

1004
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: So this is always object and to change day to day.

1005
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 6: But in the very short term you have Lebron playing

1006
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 6: at a better level than when he was very noticeably

1007
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 6: gassed the previous four games on that poor road trip

1008
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 6: that you know led to him sitting down for a week.

1009
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis has been consistent all season. He's still, you know,

1010
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 6: maintain that even though he an Expliciveloye missed a para

1011
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 6: freezers in crunch time that almost cost them tonight's game

1012
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 6: against the Kings. You have someone like Ruly Hatchamore that

1013
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 6: made some key plays with that tip in, and you know,

1014
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 6: I think Austin Reeves coming back has also helped, you know,

1015
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 6: with their continuity and their depth. But they're a team

1016
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 6: that still has a lot of things that leave them

1017
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 6: vulnerable because Lebron's health is always going to be fluid.

1018
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 6: Jared Vanderbilt hasn't even played in a game yet and

1019
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 6: it's not clear when he'll return, and he was expected

1020
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 6: to me to be that main frontcore player that could

1021
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 6: compliment Anthony Davis on defense, and so far obviously that

1022
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 6: hasn't been the case. So you know, they're in fifth

1023
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 6: place right now in the West. But we could be

1024
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 6: having a very different conversation later next week, well we could.

1025
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: And credit to Lebrown. He had a hell of a

1026
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: game Saturday night. And I see that in spite of

1027
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: the fact he was one of eight from behind the

1028
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 2: arc thirty four very productive minutes. He was all over

1029
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: the place thirty two points plus ten point differential. Don'ton

1030
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: connect what's the latest with him? Because I know he's

1031
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: a rookie, but you know, five minutes didn't score, is

1032
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: he okay?

1033
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, as far as I know, I think that. You know, look,

1034
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 6: JJ Reddick has been trying to have fluid rotations, and

1035
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 6: you know, he didn't play a lot of minutes against

1036
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 6: the King's only five minutes. He's gone through a fairly

1037
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 6: tough shooting stretch after shooting lights out at the beginning

1038
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 6: of the season. And one of the things that JJ

1039
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 6: Richs rely try to emphasize at Dawn Connect Connect told

1040
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 6: me this during training camp, but he doesn't want to

1041
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 6: be seen as just this great shooter. He wants to

1042
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 6: be a complete player. And he has made strides with

1043
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 6: his defense, with his off ball cutting, but you know,

1044
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 6: it hasn't been enough. And so you know, when you're

1045
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 6: looking at players outside Lebron and Ad, JJ Redick has

1046
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 6: fluctuated his rotations to try to find the right combinations.

1047
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 6: And right now, Max Christie, I think has shown that

1048
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 6: he's been a really good two way player and some

1049
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 6: of his early season struggles are behind him. But again,

1050
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 6: it's a long season. I'm sure he'll get more meaningful

1051
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 6: mens than just five. But we do have to keep

1052
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 6: in mind that he's also a rookie.

1053
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: It's the last thing, mark and we've only got a

1054
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: minute or so. But give me your thoughts from thirty

1055
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: thousand feet on the new NBA All Star Game. Four Man,

1056
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a commentary on it. I think

1057
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: it's a debacle, but I want to hear what you

1058
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: got to say.

1059
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel the same way. I mean, I feel

1060
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: like it reeks of you know, the parents trying to

1061
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 6: convince their kids eat their vegetables or convince their kids

1062
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 6: to get good grades, and every sales pitch is falling short,

1063
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 6: every stern lecture is being ignored. So now they're you know, incentivizing, saying, hey,

1064
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 6: if you do this, I'll give you an allowance. And

1065
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 6: you kind of think, you know, why are you gained

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00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: down this road where every little good deed warrants a

1067
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 6: participation trophy. The reality I think NBA players should keep

1068
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 6: in mind is that one of the reasons why their

1069
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 6: salary is so high is because of the size of

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00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,479
Speaker 6: the TV contracts. And this goes hand in hand. These

1071
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 6: media companies are paying a lot of money to showcase

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 6: these games, especially the tempole events, because they want them

1073
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 6: to put on a major show, and so even if

1074
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 6: before this year the players weren't quote unquote being paid.

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 6: This is an ability to sell the product and spin

1076
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 6: it forward, and so it's unfortunate that that has gotten

1077
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 6: lost in translation. But you know, the NBA hopes that

1078
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 6: this can add more spice after the last two terrible

1079
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 6: debacles of All Star Games. And I think in the

1080
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 6: very short term it can, because we saw that with

1081
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 6: the elon ending four years ago leading to a better game.

1082
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 6: But we also have seen that it then fizzles out

1083
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 6: the next season. So I'm very skeptical. It has to

1084
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 6: start with the players actually giving a you know what, Well.

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Mark, there's a fundamental dichotomy here. We

1086
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: know that players want to be recognized as All Stars,

1087
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: they want to be voted in as All Stars, they

1088
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: want to be named All Stars. They don't want to

1089
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: play in the game. The game is not saligible anymore.

1090
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: The NFL recognize this, It is not saligible. When is

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00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: the NBA simply going to recognize this?

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00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 6: Well, I think the NBA thought is that, well, this

1093
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 6: is a temple event. That's a major TV moment, and

1094
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 6: this is part of why the TV rights deal went up, right,

1095
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 6: because they can sell the playoffs and the end season

1096
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 6: tournament All Star. That's why they're not doing away with it.

1097
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 6: I will say this, there are some reasonable patchwork things

1098
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 6: that could address it. I will defend the players when

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01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 6: they say that the NBA and all the TV, all

1100
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 6: the team partners, they're loading up their schedule with all

1101
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 6: these sponsorship appearances that it wears them out by the

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 6: time the game starts. If you reduce that, maybe it helps.

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 6: But I think the All Star Game itself, instead of

1104
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 6: having the seats go to all these corporate sponsors, have

1105
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 6: discounted tickets for fans that otherwise won't be able to

1106
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 6: be an NBA game. This is a novelty and they

1107
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 6: will react accordingly to having it be a best atmosphere.

1108
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 6: But I have to stress it starts with the players. Look,

1109
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 6: we're not talking about play an All Star Game like

1110
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 6: it's Game seven the NBA Finals. Just put on a

1111
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 6: show and act like you care.

1112
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: Mark great stuff. I will put this segment up against

1113
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: any basketball conversation out there right now, and Adam, that's yes, Listen,

1114
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: I get it. True greatness needs no self promotion.

1115
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 6: But I said it all right, Well, I appreciate your

1116
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 6: kind words means a lot because you do a hell

1117
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 6: of a job and you've done it great for a while.

1118
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 6: So always looking forward to these great NBA segments with

1119
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 6: you this week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we'll see you again soon before well, we'll

1121
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: figure it out. Will be hearing, We'll be hearing you

1122
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for happy holidays, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Right back at you, Mark, Mark Medina Adina Magic. He

1125
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: is our Fox Sports NBA guru, and we go way

1126
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: beyond the box scores. Coming up, I want to share

1127
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: with you the NBA plan for the All Star Game.

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01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm calling it the Debacle weekend. Keep it locked. You're

1129
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1130
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: All right, back at the Bernie Fratle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

1131
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: coming live from the Tarak dot Com studios here in

1132
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Well, yeah, by the way, about ninety minutes

1133
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: away from the dance Sensation sweep of the nation. Then,

1134
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: of course, is what kind of brand new fool you

1135
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: followed by what my name fresh additions? We got a

1136
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: lot to get to before that though. All right, you

1137
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: heard Mark Mandine and I talking about the new NBA

1138
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: All Star Game. Iteration, reiteration, new fangled shot in the

1139
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: dark at potential credibility. Sure, sure, So this is now

1140
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: the NBA's latest and I consider it to be one

1141
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: of the more drastic efforts to make. This attempt to

1142
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: resuscitate an All Star game that has been dead for

1143
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: over a decade. They announced Tuesday that we replaced the

1144
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: traditional All Star game. Are you ready for it? A

1145
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: pickup style tournament. Wait, we can do shirts and skins.

1146
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: I think they should. Yeah, that'd be a wrinkle. Why not?

1147
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: And who are going to be the team captains? All hell?

1148
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: Why not Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neal, and Kenny Smith. But

1149
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: red clots wasn't available, So make sure you pitch a ten,

1150
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: because this is going to be a circus see now

1151
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: instead of a single All Star game where you can

1152
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: watch a whole lot of nothing and lay up gunkline

1153
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: while everybody high fives and smiles at each other and

1154
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: pretends they're actually putting together a product. They're you know.

1155
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, that single All Star game, if

1156
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: you want to call it that, it's been traditionally played

1157
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Now, the NBA is going to host a

1158
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: one day tournament featuring four teams made up of eight

1159
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: players each. Now, this format's going to debut on February sixteenth.

1160
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: February sixteenth, now, I believe that is also with Sunday.

1161
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: It's the Sunday following the Super Bowl. The Super bowls

1162
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: on the ninth in the Golden State Warriors. They will,

1163
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: you know, they get the honors this year hosting the

1164
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 2: annual All Star festivities, if you want to call it that.

1165
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: So you'll have three teams that are consisted of twenty

1166
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: four players and they'll be selected as All Stars. Barkley,

1167
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, Shaquille O Mino, Kenny Smith. They're going to

1168
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: draft the teams that will be known as Now, how's

1169
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: this freak? This is really creative. Now you really get

1170
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: my attention, Team Chuck. Let's see, I guess it'd be

1171
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: Barkley's team, Team Shack. Now that wouldn't be Keny, that

1172
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: would be O'Neil's team. Yeah, and then Team Kenny, Team Chuck,

1173
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: Team Shack, Team Kenny. I feel like this is starting

1174
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: to sound like an episode of South Park. I'm actually

1175
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: don mark my outstanding. So they're gonna by the way,

1176
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: don't miss this, my god, cancel anything. You got going.

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Speaker 2: The draft's gonna be conducted on T and T on

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01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: February sixth, which I believe is a Thursday, and similar

1179
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: to previous All Star drafts that consisted of two players.

1180
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: You remember in the past, you had two players choosing

1181
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: two teams. Now you've got Team Kenny, Team Chuck, and

1182
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: Team Shack selecting three eight man teams. But oh there's more.

1183
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: Remember remember what I said earlier. There will be four teams.

1184
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: The fourth team will be the winner of the Rising

1185
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: Stars Challenge that will be held on Friday, February fourteen.

1186
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: Four teams made up of first and second year NBA

1187
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: players in G League standouts. They're going to play a

1188
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: three game tournament to crown a champion. Now I wonder

1189
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: if Brownie James would be allowed to play in that game. Damn,

1190
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: we made it through a whole segment with Mark Medina

1191
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: without bringing up Brownie James. Shame on me. So the

1192
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: tournament will consist of two semi finals and a championship game,

1193
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: each of which will be played to forty point no

1194
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: time clock. You played a forty I guess they're even

1195
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: going to see these teams, But as of yet, the

1196
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: league hasn't announced how they would see these teams, if

1197
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: they're going to be seated, or they even will be seated. Okay,

1198
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, I've always liked Kevin Durant. I just think

1199
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: he's a real dude, a phenomenal player. I loved him

1200
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: at Texas. I get a kick out of him when

1201
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: he fires back on so you just do. He's weighed

1202
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: in on the new format three words. He hates it.

1203
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: Good for you, Kevin, you're paying attention. I have to

1204
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: agree with Durant, all right, this is gimmickry. I think

1205
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: it diminishes the NBA product. And I've done my best

1206
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: to research this and to try to describe to you

1207
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 2: what the hell does all means peewee, And I think

1208
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: I've done a reasonably credible job based on the information

1209
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: that exists out there. But it doesn't feel like a simple,

1210
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: straightforward thing. And I just don't I don't feel like

1211
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: it has a whole hell of a lot of gravy

1212
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 2: toss or merit or It's like, I don't think people

1213
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: are going to be suffering from a lot of fomo if,

1214
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, you know, they decide to go to

1215
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: their bowling league, or paint their house or watch the

1216
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: paint dry in lieu of watching this. Sorry, NBA, it

1217
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: doesn't feel right to me. I'll tell you what. Let's do.

1218
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: I want to bring in the crew on this one.

1219
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're an NBA fan or not,

1220
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: but Shait, I want to start with you. So you

1221
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 2: heard what I said, keep it simple. Will you watch

1222
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: any of this?

1223
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'm not your average NBA fan, Like

1224
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 7: I kind of like it a little bit more than others,

1225
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 7: even being a Laker fan.

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, like I've been, I've been happy recently, Like there

1228
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 7: hasn't been a lot of negatives to say, so, I mean, yeah,

1229
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 7: I'll watch it just to see what's going on with it,

1230
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,479
Speaker 7: maybe just to spark it. Definitely sparks my interest because

1231
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 7: in the end, it has been slightly boring watching the NBA.

1232
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 8: So maybe it could be a highlight. Who knows, we'll see.

1233
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: But well, I'm glad you okay, So let's continue this

1234
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: for a second because I'm glad you couched it that way.

1235
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 2: I want to make one thing abundantly clear. Should folks

1236
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 2: elect to avail themselves with this, why not? So America

1237
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: Baby Live How you want to live. I'm not for it,

1238
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: but we are in a society right now that you know.

1239
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: If if you don't vote for who I vote for,

1240
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: not only are you wrong, you're an idiot? Well no, no, no, no,

1241
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: our midnight hour on Friday night. Say, I've always encouraged

1242
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: that the most boring conversations are when people just agree.

1243
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: So to that end, shape, Look this sounds to me. Look,

1244
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: you're an NBA fan. Fair, So this is as part

1245
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 2: of the NBA product. They're not going to be any

1246
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: games for those three days. You want to sample and

1247
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: see what it's all about. Right, is that fair?

1248
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1249
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 7: Exactly, I'll sample it. I mean I might not sit

1250
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 7: down and make a whole event out of it. I

1251
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 7: might just throw it on and see if it's something

1252
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 7: I enjoy. If I don't enjoy it, obviously I'm going

1253
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 7: to turn it off. But I will definitely try it out.

1254
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 7: Because not trying it out and just saying oh yeah,

1255
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 7: blah blah blah, because we don't know what it is.

1256
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 7: No one knows what it is. No one knows if

1257
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 7: it's going to be good or not. So right now,

1258
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 7: it's just opinions, and it's opinions. That aren't really backed

1259
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 7: by anything. So it's like, of course I'm going to

1260
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 7: watch it, like why not? But it might suck. It

1261
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 7: definitely might suck. What ares I go in with no

1262
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 7: expectations down in the NBA, I've realized that people give

1263
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 7: things too many like, especially when it comes to sports.

1264
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 7: Obviously I have expectations when it comes to playoffs and

1265
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 7: all that, but during the regular season, you're you're kind

1266
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 7: of just playing with such a weird product that like,

1267
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 7: I try to go in with none, but I only yeah,

1268
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 7: like I I hope it's good. That's all I really

1269
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 7: want to.

1270
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: Say, Mark Rams, are your thoughts.

1271
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: I go into this with the idea that, okay, disclaimer,

1272
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: I don't watch much of basketball anymore. I will watch

1273
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: the results. I'll watch, you know, highlights of how the

1274
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: games go, how the games ended, just to see a

1275
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: little bit of what's going on. But the overall thing

1276
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: is I don't have much enthusiasm because basketball the players

1277
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: don't seem to have a certain urgency to make the

1278
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 1: game or to you know, be competitive with each other.

1279
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: It always appears that everybody's they're all friends and there's

1280
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: no friction between teams. I don't mean start a fight.

1281
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I just be teammates and I want my team to

1282
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: beat your team, and I don't see much of that.

1283
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: So when it comes to pulling for a team, if

1284
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: my favorite team doesn't act like they really want to

1285
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: do it, I don't have much empathy or excitement to watch.

1286
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: There's nothing for me. I'm not getting anything out of

1287
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: the competition.

1288
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, good points, guys, And I would say this that

1289
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: that's been banned about in terms of why the ratings

1290
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: are down. You just don't have the bird magic, you know,

1291
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: whether it's Kobe Shack rivalries hate like we had in

1292
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: the past, and they're having a hard time manufacturing those.

1293
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: Even if it's not the hate, just some kind of competition.

1294
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: With there was real hate too, man back and you know.

1295
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, yeah, there was a hate. And then I've

1296
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: seen things on the internet about how the referees are

1297
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: having too much of us, say in games because of

1298
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: the files of the technicals that they call which put

1299
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: people out. So if you come to watch a game

1300
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: and your favorite person gets kicked out out because the

1301
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: referees appeared to be very touchy, then why am I watching?

1302
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: Because my favorite person is gone?

1303
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: The whole products. I'm trial right now, and the TV

1304
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: network's paid a fortune and there's still plenty of time

1305
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 2: to rectify this. I don't know how they do it,

1306
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 2: but you heard my commentary with Mark Mondino. We don't

1307
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: have royalty in this country. Our athletes and our entertainers

1308
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: are royalty, and if they don't act like the collective

1309
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: intelligence the American people is not stupid, not the collective intelligence.

1310
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who was royalty, the great Ricky Henderson.

1311
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: I know a lot about Ricky, have been around him,

1312
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: my buddy Sean Green, play with him in Toronto. I

1313
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: can't say enough good about him. I'll share some things

1314
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: you won't know or didn't know, and I'll share some

1315
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 2: things that you're going to want to know, and share

1316
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 2: some things you probably already did know. Because Ricky may

1317
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: have come off as this guy from the outset looking

1318
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: in who was a little out there and I'm the

1319
01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: greatest and self aggrandizing. He pulled it off, man, because

1320
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: he was so likable, lovable. We're gonna remember Ricky Henderson

1321
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: coming up and feel free to tweet at me if

1322
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: you've got something. This is one of those subjects where

1323
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: again Ricky truly was royalty for twenty five years in

1324
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. I'm Bernie Frat or Kenedy Line from

1325
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarack dot Com studios.

1326
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You are listening to the Bernie Frattles

1327
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back at the

1328
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattles Show, Fox Sports Radio, Keby live from the

1329
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: Tarak dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. So the

1330
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: news officially came down this morning. I started getting texts

1331
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 2: from well placed people as I was signing on my

1332
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 2: show Friday night. The Ricky Henderson was not well in

1333
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: a hospital. And I don't know the official cause of death.

1334
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: It's been bandied abottles pneumonia, But anyway you slice it,

1335
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: Ricky would have turned sixty five Wednesday, Christmas Day. And

1336
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: to you know, coach John Facenda, you know the road

1337
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 2: to superlatives. Ricky exhausted because everybody loved him personally and

1338
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: what he did on the field was incredible. You know,

1339
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: there were only seventy players in the history of Major

1340
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: League Baseball that are bat and right and throwing left,

1341
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: and Ricky's the only one to make it to the

1342
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, the only to make an All Star Game,

1343
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 2: hit fourteen hundred and six to olen bases at one

1344
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty to single season. The next one behind

1345
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: him is Lou Brock, five hundred places, five hundred seals

1346
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: behind him. Led off the game with a home run

1347
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: in his career eighty one times. Ricky aged well too.

1348
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: After the age of forty, he still stole one hundred

1349
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: and nine bases. He stole thirty seven at the age

1350
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: of forty thirty six and forty one and twenty five

1351
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: or forty two. He was the oldest to lead the

1352
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: league at age thirty nine. He stole sixty six bases

1353
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: in age thirty nine, throwing thirteen times all year, and

1354
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 2: he won the stolen based title twelve times, eighteen years apart,

1355
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 2: the first of nineteen eighty the last of nineteen eighty eight.

1356
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: By the way, he was thirty eight years old. He

1357
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: played for the Angels for a month. He didn't have

1358
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: a gaudy batting average, but he stole sixteen on a

1359
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: twenty basis in thirty two games. Ricky Henderson was the

1360
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: type of guy that was an absolute game changer. He

1361
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: got on base, he would bother you. He was the

1362
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: type of guy who could spark a rally all by himself,

1363
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: and he played the game with joy, played the game

1364
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: of the plumb, played the game with a lot of charisma,

1365
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: and of course he played the game with a lot

1366
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: of personality. And it just comes to my favorite part

1367
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: because you know, Ricky's always talking in the third person, right,

1368
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 2: he says. You know people are saying Ricky says Ricky,

1369
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 2: but it's been blown way out of proportion. But I'm

1370
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: tired of people telling me that I talked to myself

1371
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: and I don't talk to myself, and you know why

1372
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: because I never answered myself, So how can I be

1373
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: talking to myself? By the way, you know, Ricky was

1374
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: also known as you know, a bit of a braggadotio,

1375
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 2: but he backed it up every time, great bass dealer.

1376
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: When he broke Blue Box record, he says, I'm the

1377
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:23,440
Speaker 2: greatest of all times. So as Ricky got along in years,

1378
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: he played for a lot of different teams and he

1379
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: even the A's four times, and when he joined the

1380
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: Blue Jays, he was well laid into his career. He

1381
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: was probably late thirties. And the bus pulled up of

1382
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 2: the hotel and one of the players says, Ricky, go ahead,

1383
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,839
Speaker 2: you can get on the bus first. You got tenure,

1384
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: Ricky said, tenure, What do you mean? I got fifteen year.

1385
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: Somebody once asked him if he had Garth Brooks albums

1386
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: or albums. He says, Ricky don't have albums. Ricky has CDs.

1387
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: By the way, Ricky once fell as sleep with an

1388
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: ice pack on his foot true story, got frostbite and

1389
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: had missed three games one of the one of the game.

1390
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: One of my favorite quotes that was in he did

1391
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: play with Toronto. He played with a guy named John Olerud,

1392
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: and John o'derard was a big time left handed hitter

1393
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 2: and he had a brain aneurysm in college and so

1394
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: he was forced to wear a helmet even when he

1395
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: played first base. And Ricky played with this guy, and

1396
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 2: years later he was him and Ola Rude are on

1397
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: separate teams, and he happened to notice Ola Rude on

1398
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: the other team taking a pregame with an infield and

1399
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: he had the helmet on his head, and Ricky just

1400
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: said the don in particular, look at that guy, he's

1401
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 2: got a helmet on his head. I also want to

1402
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: played with the guy who wore a helmet at first

1403
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 2: base did know it was him, by the way. You know, Look,

1404
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is Ricky was a guy

1405
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 2: who would who would you know, stand in front of

1406
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: the mirror before the game. They cold say Ricky's the best. Ricky,

1407
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: He's the best. Ricky's the best. He did this, He

1408
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 2: did this stuff, but he got away with it because

1409
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: not only did you back it up, everybody loved him.

1410
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: He was a pure dichotomy. Yes out there, yes, confident, Yes, cocky,

1411
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 2: but lovable and baseball. There aren't any Ricky Henderson playing

1412
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: baseball anymore. He's gonna be missed. Coming up, some takeaways

1413
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: from the NFL games on Saturday. There's some big ones.

1414
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: Keep it locked, Bernie Fraddles Show, Fox Sports Radio. Well

1415
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: that's right, you heard the man, Bernie Fraddleshow keeps rolling

1416
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: right along. My name is Bernie Fraddwick keviny Lyn from

1417
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: the tarat dot com studios here in Las Vegas, Fox

1418
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,000
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1421
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Speaker 2: tired buying should be. Before I jump into the what

1422
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 2: I consider significant takeaways today between the Chiefs Texans game

1423
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: and then of course the Ravens Dealers game. I we're

1424
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: not quite done with Ricky Henderson. Mark and I were

1425
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: talking off air, and I want to for ever so

1426
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: quickly him and Chase thoughts on Ricky Henderson and his

1427
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: legacy within the hierarchy of baseball or remembrances. But Mark

1428
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 2: had an interesting theory about why there could never be

1429
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 2: another Ricky Henderson. Mark, why don't you share that?

1430
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: Just the emphasis on what players do now and how

1431
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: they're treated by their owners or by the team. They

1432
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: don't have a certain vigor to be number one. I

1433
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: don't see there. We just talked about enthusiasm for the game.

1434
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: Certain baseball players currently don't seem like they make a

1435
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: greater effort to be the best. I always look forward

1436
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: to the beginning of an A's game because if Ricky

1437
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: was usually the leadoff hitter, and I made sure that

1438
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: I was there to watch all this stuff for the game,

1439
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: to see all the hype and then to see him

1440
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: get up there, because like you said, he had eighty

1441
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: first pitch, you know, you know lead on I mean

1442
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: you you just knew he was going to do it,

1443
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: so you just had to watch to see it because

1444
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: he would do it, and that was a certain enthusiasm

1445
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: that at least brought me. I can't speack for everybody else,

1446
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: but that was the thing that made me watch the

1447
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: game to watch him, to see, like you said, the

1448
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: difference that he would make for his team and what

1449
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: he would do once he got on the basis, what

1450
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: he would do with the bat. So that kind of

1451
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: player doesn't seem to be the kind of player that's

1452
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: going to be around a lot to get these great

1453
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 1: historic numbers or win certain awards because of their effort

1454
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: and how long they play and what they do on

1455
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: the field.

1456
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: So the terminology us with Ricky's he played the game

1457
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: with joy. So this kind of puts you on the spot.

1458
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: So if you don't have the name readily available, who

1459
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 2: do you see after today that play the game with joy?

1460
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: Hard to find? Didn't it?

1461
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: I was the only guy I was thinking about was

1462
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe just for me, but I liked Joey

1463
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: Vado from Cincinnati.

1464
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 2: But I love that guy Shoe Oltani I think does.

1465
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: But Ricky was you know show show can't speak English.

1466
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be bothered, right, so that's always

1467
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: going to somewhat limit his Q rating, I think, But

1468
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: go ahead.

1469
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: Well, just that idea of certain players, Like he said,

1470
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: I can't think of that many names, but the Voto

1471
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: is the one that comes to my mind because he

1472
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: just seemed like a tough out, a tough hitter, and

1473
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: I guess he did well on the infield, but just

1474
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: the idea of he wanted to it appears like he

1475
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: wanted to be the best, and the fans always didn't

1476
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: like him, but the kids liked them that his fans

1477
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: liked it because he always you know, talked about his

1478
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: you know, brought up his name and just the things

1479
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: he would do on the field. So he's one of

1480
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: the guys that I would think of that has that

1481
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: sort of quality the way Ricky does. But I can't

1482
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: think of that many players' names because it doesn't I

1483
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: can't think of that many names, just like to think

1484
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: of because I didn't watch that much because of the

1485
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: low enthusiasm on my part watching what they would do

1486
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: on the field.

1487
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: Shaye, what are your thoughts on Ricky Henderson?

1488
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 7: I mean, I obviously I'm I'm turned twenty five next month,

1489
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 7: so I didn't see him in person. Really, I don't

1490
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 7: think ever or even like ever really watched any highlights

1491
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 7: or anything. I mean, of course, I know that he's

1492
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 7: the all time leader in steals and a great like

1493
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,879
Speaker 7: walk in terms of walks and all that before Barry Blonds.

1494
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 7: But when it comes to like comparing him to players

1495
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 7: in today's like, I think you guys took it a

1496
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 7: little too far when saying like no one has fun anymore.

1497
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 7: I mean, there's so many players out there, such as

1498
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 7: like Mookie. I mean, you see leadoff hitters that do

1499
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 7: so good that like point and I mean I might

1500
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 7: as a Dodger fan, I might be really lucky because

1501
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 7: we always have a good team and we always have

1502
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 7: a good leadoff hitter. So it's something that I as

1503
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 7: a Dodger fan, see a lot of. But when it

1504
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 7: was I mean, looking at his stats right now, Yeah,

1505
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 7: I'm not going to compare him to Mookie Bets because

1506
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 7: obviously he's better. He's had a better career than Mookie Bets.

1507
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 7: But we do still see players that are exhilarating and

1508
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 7: have a lot of fun and they're fun to watch still,

1509
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 7: But I don't want it. Yeah again, like I'm not

1510
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 7: gonna I'm obviously he Mookie isn't just him yet or

1511
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 7: probably won't ever be. But I think it is taking

1512
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 7: a little too far saying no, there is no players

1513
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 7: just like him or I kind of give off that

1514
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 7: same vibe almost. But he was a great and he

1515
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 7: still is a great, and he will people consider him

1516
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 7: to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

1517
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: So, I mean I was going along the lines of,

1518
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: like you said, Mookie is great. I just don't see

1519
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: that many players reaching this sort of numbers that would

1520
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: get them that we would speak about them later in years.

1521
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with that, and from my understanding, he

1522
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 7: was before the juicing era.

1523
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 8: Correct.

1524
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: Well, no, he broke in in nineteen seventy nine, played

1525
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: for twenty five years. Oh so he he was around.

1526
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: But I think the thing with MOOKI or checked that

1527
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: Ricky is he checked every box. He was prolific on

1528
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: the field. He's a Hall of Famer number two. Yes,

1529
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 2: he played the game with outbound joy and it wasn't phony.

1530
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: But he was also very quotable. And you know, as

1531
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 2: I talked about this with Mark Mendina in the NBA

1532
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,799
Speaker 2: the you know, we don't have royalty in this country.

1533
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 2: Our fandom in this country as it pertains to sports

1534
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: and the like and entertainers. I think Americans treat this

1535
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 2: as very personal. It's personal to them. They feel like

1536
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: they know these people, and in some cases they stalk

1537
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 2: these people for crying out out. So the bottom line

1538
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: is Ricky engendered that type of openness to where he

1539
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 2: enjoyed the attention and he was deserving of it, and

1540
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: he had handled it really well. So it's tough to

1541
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: find that that three for three. The game is much

1542
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: more business like today, much more business like. Guys, w

1543
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, I've had a major league credential since ninety four.

1544
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 2: Guys walking with their briefcases and their cell phones and such.

1545
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they don't play hard, not saying there

1546
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: aren't players in the game who don't play the game

1547
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 2: with enthusiasm and joy. But Ricky brought up to a

1548
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: whole different level. You guys have the last thought, if

1549
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: he's sure to have it.

1550
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, I agree with Shay that I

1551
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 1: know there are other players. There are current players that

1552
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: obviously play the game because they've come up through the ranks,

1553
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: and they're good. They're good for their teams, and you

1554
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: know there's guys on Baltimore, and I mean the various

1555
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: teams have good players. I'm just saying the current players

1556
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: don't seem like they're going to get the numbers that

1557
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: will you know, show their stats that we'll be looking

1558
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: at them because those numbers won't be built because of

1559
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: time spent playing or if they bounce from team to team.

1560
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, their numbers on one team won't always translate

1561
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: to another team. So I know they're currently good guys,

1562
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: but their numbers, I'm saying, won't accumulate to be such

1563
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: greatness over the years.

1564
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 8: All right, shade anything, Uh no, no, it's pretty good.

1565
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,839
Speaker 2: All Right, we covered this fair enough. I think listen,

1566
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: you could do the whole four hours on Ricky. We

1567
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: can't do that. But again, when you consider his impact

1568
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 2: to the game on and off the field, and recognizing

1569
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: that this is entertainment medium, Ricky just an incredibly tough

1570
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: act to follow. Incredibly tough act to follow. I'll tell

1571
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,440
Speaker 2: you what else is a tough act to follow. Patrick Mahomes.

1572
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: A week ago they were talking about his high ankle

1573
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: sprain with those huge stuff to be crazy to play him,

1574
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, have you not see what's happened in the past.

1575
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: When God made Patrick Mahomes, he threw away the mold.

1576
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: I think the guy eats nails for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

1577
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: And you know, there were lingering questions all week. Once again,

1578
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: the group thinking echo chamber was on high alert, raising

1579
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,600
Speaker 2: questions about whether Patrick Mahomes should play Saturday with the

1580
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: Hinnkel Sprain. Make no mistake, the Chiefs want that number

1581
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: one seed and he'd been practicing and there's no reason.

1582
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 2: He's a two time MVP. And not only did Mahomes

1583
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: show up and show out Saturday with leadership and playmaking,

1584
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: he scrambled nine plays into the Chiefs first drive and

1585
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 2: he I mean right out of the gate. He showed

1586
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: first drive, ran for twelve yards on third and thirteen

1587
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 2: to set up a reasonable fourth down conversion, didn't ran

1588
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: for another fifteen yards score a touchdown, even though there

1589
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: was about twelve Texans players ready to greet him with

1590
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 2: bad intentions. It was a gritty drive led by a

1591
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: guy who people didn't even want to play this week.

1592
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: What's the takeaway? You bet against his team all you want,

1593
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: cape call us how smart you are because they went

1594
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: under lucky. Think whatever the al you want, this is America.

1595
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: But when you are defending back to back champs, and

1596
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 2: there's no doubt in my mind they have hell bent

1597
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 2: on three peating, which has never been done. Although, for

1598
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: you trivia buffs, the Packers won the NFL championship in

1599
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: sixty six. Then they beat the Chiefs thirty five to

1600
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: ten in Super Bowl One and the Raiders thirty three

1601
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 2: to fourteen in Super Bowl two. So they won three

1602
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 2: in a row, but only two of those were in

1603
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 2: the actual Super Bowl era, which is what we're talking

1604
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: about here. Maomes and the Chiefs are just simply too

1605
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: buttoned up, and you juxtaposed that against Houston. The Texans

1606
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: are not going to be a championship team because they

1607
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: are sloppy. They're good, but they're not buttoned up like

1608
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,799
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Right, the Chiefs have made it abundantly clear

1609
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: that they're not going to beat themselves. They're fourteen to one.

1610
01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: They've never seen completely dominant. Statistically, they're not dominant. Their

1611
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: point differential is not what people expect it to be.

1612
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: For the record they have, but all they do is win.

1613
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: And there are reasons when the situation the man's greatness

1614
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: can you be great. Travis Kelcey, Yes, Isaiah Pacheck, oh yes,

1615
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes absolutely, George carloftis yes, Chris Jones. These guys

1616
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: are locked in. They know they're they've got they've got

1617
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: a date with history, right. I think the world is

1618
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud. But there are things that don't really

1619
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: show up in the box scores. Now. I know CJ.

1620
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: Stroud through two bad picks and one when he just

1621
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 2: airmailed that completely killed the Houston drive in Casey Territory

1622
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: and that allowed Kansas City to steal a field goal

1623
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: right before they have. See, that's the thing that's my

1624
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway with the Chiefs. There's an old saying life

1625
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: be in the right place at the right time, but

1626
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: that's a common not a period being the right place

1627
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: at the right time col and do something about it.

1628
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: So it wasn't just that the Chiefs took advantage of

1629
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: that interception before the half where they were driving and

1630
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 2: got the ball, went the other way and got a

1631
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 2: field goal. They rattled CJ. Stroud and c J. Stroud

1632
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 2: is going to have a long, good career in this league.

1633
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: He committed two delay of game penalties, one required them

1634
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: to burn a time out to avoid another one, and

1635
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 2: one involved a red zone sack when he chose to

1636
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,520
Speaker 2: run out of bounce instead of throwing the ball away.

1637
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 2: Those were the kind of little menial mistakes don't always

1638
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 2: show up in the box score, and they certainly don't

1639
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: show up with the highlight reel that the Chiefs don't

1640
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 2: make and their opponents do, and the Chiefs take advantage

1641
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: of them. By the way, again, I always enjoyed trying

1642
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: to break down film the years I covered the Lions.

1643
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: The Texans defense had multiple blowing coverage and even though

1644
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 2: they knew it was obvious nine plays into the game,

1645
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Maholmes was willing to use his leg legs to keep

1646
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 2: plays alive. The Chiefs didn't, or the Texans didn't set

1647
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: the edge against those scrambles. They kept insisting, well, Maholmes,

1648
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: we were told he was hurt, he's got high ankles, brain,

1649
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 2: he's going to be more stationary. This guy's not normal, man.

1650
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Were you need to figure this out worst of all,

1651
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 2: and maybe this is going to be a play that

1652
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 2: will really be terribly remembered for the Texans season. It's

1653
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: funny how your fates can go from joy to agony.

1654
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 2: Tank Dell took a beautiful thirty yard pass from CJ's

1655
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 2: Job to score and then suffered a very serious knee injury.

1656
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,879
Speaker 2: I believe it was a dislocated kneecap, and his teammates

1657
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: were very emotional. It's devastating, and because Tank Dell also

1658
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 2: had a bad injury last year and he was just

1659
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: now starting to look himself and you know he with

1660
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: him gone, that's quite a one to two punch that

1661
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 2: the Texans have with Tank Dell and Nico Collins. But

1662
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 2: with both of them gone, there were still twenty seven

1663
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: minutes left in the game. The chief the Texans scored

1664
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 2: three more points. Now credit allow that to the Chiefs defense,

1665
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 2: because the Chiefs, oh, by the way I have now

1666
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: you know last week, you know they forced six turnovers

1667
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 2: against Cleveland, which you know, against Jamis that doesn't count.

1668
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 2: That only counts for one turnover because he's Jamus. But

1669
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: they came up with two picks against c J. Stroud.

1670
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 2: Eight turnovers in two weeks. And you create takeaways for

1671
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 2: any reason anytime in the National Football League, that's one

1672
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 2: less that's one less possession for your opponent, one more

1673
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 2: possession for you. And you only get so many of those,

1674
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: and if you give a you know, an extra possession

1675
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 2: of the chief that's like saying baseball game and the

1676
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 2: Chiefs get to bat online innings and you only get

1677
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: to bat seven and they're the Chiefs. So all of

1678
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, the Chris Jones of the world, the George

1679
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:17,759
Speaker 2: Carl loftis just constantly pressuring, sacking Joshua Williams. He sacked

1680
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 2: that corner Blitz and Jim Feist. Did I talk about

1681
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 2: this last night? That ended Houston's come back attempt on

1682
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: that corner Blitz sack at the end of the game.

1683
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 2: And anytime the Chiefs give up a big play, what

1684
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: do they do? How do they respond? They respond with

1685
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 2: a better one, a total complete effort. Now do you

1686
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 2: think Mahomes will play next week? Yes, they're one loss.

1687
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. I don't think Buffalo is

1688
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: going to lose to New England on Sunday. Anything could happen.

1689
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Bob Uker wants you to home run off Sandy Kilfax.

1690
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs are either one win away or one

1691
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,799
Speaker 2: Bill's loss away from you got it clinching the AFC's

1692
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 2: number one seed. Who is going to go through through

1693
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:07,879
Speaker 2: Kansas City and beat them. Could it be Buffalo on paper? Maybe?

1694
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 2: Please don't tell me Baltimore. If they do, I'll give

1695
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 2: them their flowers. I'll give them their say flowers. Lamar

1696
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: Jackson versus Bagnol's Chiefs defense. He's one and four, completes

1697
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 2: fifty six percent of his passes, throwing seven touchdown, six picks,

1698
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 2: a seventy eight passer rating, and they only managed twenty

1699
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,600
Speaker 2: two points a game. They had it all set up

1700
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: four last year in Baltimore. I couldn't do it. So

1701
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 2: this is huge. This is huge by the way. The

1702
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Chiefs generated all kinds of pressure and especially in the

1703
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 2: second half fifty seven percent of the time, and C. J.

1704
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: Stroud had a hard time with it, as any quarterback would.

1705
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 2: All right, and I know, I know you want to

1706
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 2: do the Lincoln the ward on Lincoln's nose. Kansas City

1707
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: has won fourteen games this year, and they're fourteen wins

1708
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 2: with thirty or fewer points now is the most since

1709
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: the nineteen twenty five Frankfurt Yellowjackets. Remember them, No, neither

1710
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 2: do I, But you're gonna remember this Chiefs team or

1711
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: my takeaways on Baltimore, Pittsburgh. I'll have those for you

1712
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 2: coming up. I'm Bernie Fradderwick Comedy Live from Las Vegas,

1713
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Tararec dot Com Studios. Keep it locked,

1714
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 2: you'll listening to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1715
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 2: All right, we're back of the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox

1716
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Comedy live from the Tarack dot Com studios

1717
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Oh yeah, thirty four minutes away

1718
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 2: from the dance Sensation sweep in the nation. What kind

1719
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 2: of brand new fool you followed by? What my name?

1720
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: All right? I gave you my takeaways from the Texans

1721
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: Chiefs game that was played Saturday. How about a few

1722
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: from the Steelers Ravens in which I must admit taking

1723
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: my medicine. I grabbed the Steelers in the points. How

1724
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: did that work out? Not so good? Almost, but not

1725
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: so good? Not even almost? Maybe? And why? Because Baltimore's

1726
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: defense really stiffened in the fourth quarter. And what that did?

1727
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: It normally secured the win, it also secured a playoff

1728
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: berth and it looked like it was going to go

1729
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 2: down to the wire like these games always do. Baltimore,

1730
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, had a seven point lead going into the

1731
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Pittsburgh had the ball they were driving. Baltimore's

1732
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 2: defense really finished the job in that final fourth quarter.

1733
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh was held scoreless. In the fourth quarter. They had

1734
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 2: four possessions, and in those four possessions, they only had

1735
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 2: thirty four total yards. And the highlight probably of the

1736
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: quarter was Marlon humphreys thirty seven yard pick six, which

1737
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: not only gave the Ravens a fourteen point lead, and

1738
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: it also erased the cost of interception by Lamar Jackson,

1739
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 2: who just thrown a bad pick two plays earlier. That

1740
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 2: was a tremendous gut punch to Pittsburgh. And give it

1741
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: up to Lamar Jackson because he proceeded to seal the

1742
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,719
Speaker 2: game on the next possession, drove the team eighty one yards,

1743
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 2: took six minutes off the clock all of a sudden,

1744
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: He make it a three score game, game set match.

1745
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 2: And I highlighted the stars on defense for the Chiefs

1746
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,799
Speaker 2: a minute ago, so let's highlight him for the Ravens.

1747
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: Kyle Vannoy, a guy got a BYU who Matt Patricia

1748
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 2: and the Lions screwed up, goes to New England Savages

1749
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 2: his career ends up with Baltimore outstanding, Michael Pierce, non

1750
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: Dave Medabouquet. They all got sacks and the play of

1751
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton, who is there. You know, no one will

1752
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 2: ever be here to read. But I'll tell you what

1753
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 2: this guy, his name may be a little under the radar,

1754
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton, think get a kick out. A very interesting interview,

1755
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: very funny guy. He's a Notre Dame guy. Eight tackles,

1756
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: one pass, break up, forced to fumble. That's the kind

1757
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,839
Speaker 2: of production that you know, very good, if not elite

1758
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: defenses made. On the other side, the turnovers caught up

1759
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson. You know, he made that very poor

1760
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 2: throw from his own thirty seven. That was a pick six.

1761
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: That wasn't the only turnover that resulted in points for

1762
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens. Steelers also coughed up a fumble on a

1763
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: scramble in the red zone early in the second quarter,

1764
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh could have taken a seven point lead there.

1765
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 2: And then again, I just gave Kansas City credit for this.

1766
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give Baltimore. They proceeded to take full advantage

1767
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 2: of that momentum. They drove eighty one yards down the

1768
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: field on a TV drive from then. No matter what

1769
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 2: the Steelers did, they would scramble around, try to score

1770
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 2: up the score, but they just weren't buttoned up like

1771
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:56,839
Speaker 2: Baltimore was. On three separate occasions, the Steelers were unable

1772
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: to hop on those fifty to fifty ball fumbles Baltimore got.

1773
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 2: All those are the things that show up four teams

1774
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 2: that aspire to be champions. Now, in no way am

1775
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: I predicting Baltimore is gonna win the super Bowl. I

1776
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 2: don't even think they'll be in the super Bowl. But

1777
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: give them credit for what they did Saturday, and Baltimore

1778
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: does very much now own an ace in the hole

1779
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 2: for the playoffs because those that performance Saturday Saturday prove

1780
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 2: that Baltimore really plays well when they've got the lead.

1781
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: And Derrick Henry, how could I not manage mention Derrick Henry,

1782
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 2: who this is why they paid him one hundred and

1783
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: sixty two rushing yards total one hundred and eighty nine

1784
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 2: from scrimmage. And they were all impactful. And you know,

1785
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers defense is very hard hitting, very opportunistic, very

1786
01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 2: assimon sound, and Henry towards them and you know, whenever

1787
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: there's a whenever your offense commits a turnover, your defense

1788
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: you got to get their hat on, get back on

1789
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 2: the field. They don't have time to mess around. And

1790
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:13,759
Speaker 2: right to open up the fourth quarter, Baltimore's defense forced

1791
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 2: the turnover. Pittsburgh's defense had to get back on the field. Boom,

1792
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 2: Derrek Henry breaks off a forty four yard run and

1793
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 2: that was one of multiple backbreakers, including the interception, that

1794
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 2: pick six and all that, all that kind of stuff, right,

1795
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 2: So give it up to Derrick Henry, who I think

1796
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 2: is going to be a Hall of Famer. Seventeenth career

1797
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 2: game with one hundred and fifty plus rushing yards. It's

1798
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 2: the seventh months in most in NFL history. And now

1799
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry has four seasons with fifteen hundred plus rushing yards.

1800
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 2: That's saying a lot. He looks great, and you know,

1801
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. Maybe Derrick Henry is in

1802
01:40:54,360 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 2: fact that missing ingredient that the Ravens you know, needed

1803
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: last year. Anyway, the long and short of it is

1804
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 2: for one day. For one day, the Ravens look like

1805
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 2: a real championship calender team the way that they dispatched Pittsburgh.

1806
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 2: It's not just that they beat Pittsburg. It's the way

1807
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 2: they did their nemesis arrival. They hated rival. TJ. Watt

1808
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 2: talked about it. Look, there's no love lost between these

1809
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 2: two franchises. So it was a bit of a signature

1810
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 2: win for Baltimore, who's still a five loss team. So

1811
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,839
Speaker 2: you know, I don't have confidence in the playoffs. We'll see,

1812
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 2: we'll see what they do. By the way, real quickly, Okay,

1813
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 2: I think that I am to the point now where

1814
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: I think it's better than fifty to fifty the Chiefs

1815
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 2: three peat. Philly could get him, Perhaps Allions could get him.

1816
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody Infc's getting them. Share your thoughts

1817
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 2: is the Chief's going to repeat?

1818
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 8: Are they going to the super Bowl?

1819
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: Well, if you don't think they're going to the super Bowl,

1820
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: they probably won't three beat But you know what I

1821
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 2: mean by that.

1822
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 8: I just like, I don't even think they're going to

1823
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 8: make it to the super Bowl.

1824
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: It I.

1825
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 7: I was looking. I was looking through kind of every

1826
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 7: game the Chiefs have played through the year, and it

1827
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 7: seems like every game they've played, they were one play

1828
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,799
Speaker 7: away from losing, one flag away from losing a touchdown

1829
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 7: away from losing.

1830
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 2: Okay, so fair enough, but it's okay, let's go to January. Okay,

1831
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 2: who's going to Arrowhead and beating them there? And let

1832
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 2: me pull up.

1833
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 8: Let me pull up the.

1834
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 2: While you're pulling up, Mark, we'll come back to you. Okay, Mark,

1835
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 2: Do you think she's going to threepeat?

1836
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Basically, just an eyeball test. Like

1837
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: you said, they take advantages of mistakes, and a team

1838
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: that can get through without making horrible mistakes is going

1839
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 1: to beat them because they just seem like they're just

1840
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: on the verge of crash. They're they're good enough to hold,

1841
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: but the other team opens the door for them to

1842
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: take advantage. So a team like that can be beat.

1843
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1844
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree with my thinking, but.

1845
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 2: Thinking, but it's theoretical. I do agree with your thinking.

1846
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 2: But it's theoretical because you've got a factor in the.

1847
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Ankle so we have is theoretical?

1848
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: Because no, no, no, because you have a back to

1849
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: back Super Bowl champion and you got Anthony, You've got

1850
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey and in a

1851
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 2: way above average defense and they're fourteen to one this year.

1852
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Well based on their wins, haven't it Hasn't it been

1853
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: where the other team makes a mistake and a good

1854
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 1: team can take advantage of that.

1855
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 2: Is that so why can't they take advantage of it? Then?

1856
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: But they're good enough to take advantage because the other

1857
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: team makes critical mistakes at certain times.

1858
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Well, Chiefs make mistakes too, but they don't.

1859
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 1: But they're it's they are good enough. It's a whole

1860
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: dumb but the other team makes mistakes at a certain

1861
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 1: point that the Chiefs can overcome it.

1862
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 2: That's because they're world champs, and that's because they have

1863
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: the DNA. And I'm not predicting they're going to win

1864
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I just think it's at least fifty.

1865
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 1: To fifty basic thinking. I know they're they're winning, and

1866
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: they're they're winning because, in my view, they're winning because

1867
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: the other team falters at a particular at a particular point,

1868
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: like the Texans through bad and it's always a bad interception,

1869
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: but they through interceptions. So that made it the doors

1870
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: open for the Chiefs to hold on and win.

1871
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 2: They sacked CJ. Stroud and pressured them unmercifully. Don't you

1872
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 2: think they had something to do with those interceptions?

1873
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: Mistakes are mistakes and nays you're been able to prevent

1874
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: the big mistakes?

1875
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 2: Why have they been able to but no one else has.

1876
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: They're having that kind of year three years in a row.

1877
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: I can only think about history where the Patriots were

1878
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: great and they won a bunch and then they lost

1879
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: in the end.

1880
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 2: Well, that could happen here.

1881
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the only looking at history exactly.

1882
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 2: So we're theorizing, or I'm theorizing, that they could do

1883
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: something it's never done. And they've played, you know, fifty

1884
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: eight super Bowls. Fifty super bowls they played it's never

1885
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: been done. The Packers did it, you heard me earlier, but.

1886
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: That was doing the non super Bowl season, Yeah.

1887
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty six. So look, I get it. It's part

1888
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 2: of the narrative. You cannot ignore the fact that they've

1889
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: been playing with fire. And will it catch up to them?

1890
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 2: People thought it would have caught up to him a

1891
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 2: long time ago.

1892
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: You just said the word, will they catch up to them?

1893
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 1: Will they falter?

1894
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: And I say no, but it's not one hundred percent,

1895
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 2: it's not as zero, it's not. Look, Philadelphia is a

1896
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 2: damn good team. Remember you put two teams first of all,

1897
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in the AFC is going through

1898
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 2: Kansas City to beat him.

1899
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Speaker 8: Really, you don't think the Bills or the Ravens have

1900
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Speaker 8: a chance.

1901
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 2: Okay, have a chance. Yeah, of course they do. The

1902
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 2: Raiders beat them there last year.

1903
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 7: The Bills just beat them, right, and the Ravens would

1904
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 7: have beat them. If that touchdown getting get called back.

1905
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, if your an't had balls, should be your uncle.

1906
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I think this is the most vulnerable.

1907
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 7: Even though their record is fourteen and one, this is

1908
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,480
Speaker 7: the most vulnerable we've seen.

1909
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 2: The least dominant. I can't argue with it.

1910
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 8: And this is the most dominant you've ever.

1911
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 2: Seen, essentially saying you know and you're not wrong.

1912
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 7: And the Ravens this is the most dominant we've ever seen.

1913
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson like both both both their starting quarterbacks are

1914
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 7: playing better than Mahomes this year. Correct, Yes, one hundred

1915
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Speaker 7: Travis Kelce. Obviously he's having an alright season, but he's

1916
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 7: not at all Travis Kelce.

1917
01:46:57,720 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Would I think they're playing with their food A little

1918
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 2: bit exagerate one, But Okay, so here's the deal. We're

1919
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 2: having a semantico conversation here. You asked me. Do I

1920
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 2: think the Ravens have a chance. Yes? Do I think

1921
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 2: the Bills have a chance yes, gun to my head.

1922
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:18,480
Speaker 2: Do I think those teams will beat Kansas City in January?

1923
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 2: You're saying when you've got what I call quantum physics. Now, okay,

1924
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 2: this is not just a football game in October, taking

1925
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 2: nothing away from the Bills, shosh Allen, taking nothing away

1926
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: from the Ravens and Lamar Jackson. All of a sudden,

1927
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: you put the Chiefs in that quantum physics game, the

1928
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 2: whole world's watching, God's watching, and you your win and

1929
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 2: go to the super Bowl or you go home. I'm

1930
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 2: taking the Chiefs every day. Yeah. Might I be wrong, of.

1931
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 7: Course, And when the Chiefs have been in that situation

1932
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,640
Speaker 7: so many times, and to say that they won't win

1933
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 7: in that situation would be you'd be an idiot, because

1934
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 7: they've done it so many times and they have gone

1935
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 7: in one.

1936
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Speaker 8: So I see what you're saying.

1937
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're built for it where they live.

1938
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 8: I agree with you there, But again.

1939
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:05,440
Speaker 2: I want to make this abundantly clear. I'm not dismissive

1940
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 2: to what you and Mark are saying. We've seen it

1941
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 2: with our own eyes You've got a situation where there

1942
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:15,719
Speaker 2: have been many games there have been an odd sequence

1943
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 2: of events that have enabled the Chiefs to win the game.

1944
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 2: Where is in the vast majority of you know, in

1945
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 2: the lexicon of NFL games, you don't win those games

1946
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: the way the Chiefs have won them with the same

1947
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 2: kind of regularity, and their point differential is plus seventy

1948
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 2: eight and over fifteen games it's about five points a game. Conversely, Buffaloes,

1949
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 2: even though they've lost three games, their point differentials plus

1950
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 2: one thirty five. The Ravens point differential is plus one

1951
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 2: oh three, the Eagles is plus one twenty two, the

1952
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 2: Lions is plus one seventy seven. But there is a

1953
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 2: context to what these games are played, and when they're

1954
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 2: played in January, you're gonna have to throw all that

1955
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 2: stuff out now. I also thought that the New England

1956
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 2: Patriots would finish the deal and go nineteen oh to

1957
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 2: h back in two thousand and eight in the Super Bowl,

1958
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 2: and they didn't. So that's the part of history Mark

1959
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:21,600
Speaker 2: was talking about. You cannot have this discussion without acknowledging

1960
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: historically what reality has been. You can't. So that's why

1961
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 2: it's not a foregone inclusion that the Chiefs win the

1962
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So both of you guys think they won't

1963
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 2: fair enough. You may very well be right. You may

1964
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 2: very well be right. I just think that for me,

1965
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 2: it's gotten a little tiresome that people have been so

1966
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 2: dismissive of what they've accomplished, because we're, in some senses

1967
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 2: cherry picking situations where at the end of the game

1968
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 2: they won. They just they find ways to do it

1969
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 2: because they are that good. But that does not guarantee them,

1970
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: you know, a ticket to the Promised Land on February ninth.

1971
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: They're still gonna have to earn them on the field

1972
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 2: against someone who else has also earned their way there.

1973
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 2: And so this is fun to watch. You know. I

1974
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 2: hapen to think dynasties are calling. They're good for sports

1975
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 2: because they create they create rooting interest. You know who's

1976
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 2: not a dynasty The freaking New York Jets. It came

1977
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 2: out this week just how dysfunctional they are, and some

1978
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: of this stuff you'd almost think it's made up, But

1979
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 2: unfortunately for Jets fans, it was not made up. Share

1980
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 2: some of these craziness with you surrounding the New York Jets.

1981
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 2: Kevin up By Bernie Fraddaw were coming to Lyne from

1982
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio TIREC dot Com studios.

1983
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattles Show

1984
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're back at the

1985
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: Bernie Frales Show Fox Sports Radio. By the way, we

1986
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 2: are thirteen minutes away from the Dance Sensation sweep of

1987
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 2: the nation. What kind of brand new fool you followed

1988
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: by what my name? And Shay you'll be interested to

1989
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 2: know I'm taking you back to Florida again. It's one

1990
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: to beauty manh beauty, Well aren't they all? By the way,

1991
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: not for nothing, just just food for thought. Regarding the Ravens, well,

1992
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 2: I give them their flowers for an impressive seventeen point

1993
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 2: win over Steelers. It looks like and if the Ravens

1994
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 2: have designs on just getting to the super Bowl, they're

1995
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to win three road playoff games. That's the

1996
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 2: way I'm analyzing this right now. Here's why it to

1997
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent. They currently have a forty five

1998
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 2: chance to win the AFC North. But if here's why,

1999
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 2: because if Baltimore and Pittsburgh both went out, they're both

2000
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 2: tied atop their division with ten and five records. They

2001
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 2: say they both won their next two games and finished

2002
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 2: twelve and five. The Ravens lose the top spot because

2003
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 2: their record in common games is worse than the Steelers,

2004
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 2: so the Ravens will likely need to win out of course,

2005
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: they're at Houston next week. That won't be easy. They're

2006
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 2: at home against Cleveland, never easy, but like your chances there,

2007
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 2: and the Steelers would need to lose at least one

2008
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 2: more time, which could happen. Their last two games are

2009
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: at home, but they're against the Chiefs and the Bengals.

2010
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 2: Bengals are fighting for the playoff live mathematically, and the Chiefs,

2011
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 2: as I've said a thousand times, dearly want that number

2012
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 2: one seed. Although if Buffalo were to lose later today

2013
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 2: against New England, which I wouldn't bank on it, they're

2014
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 2: really good, the Chiefs would clinch that number one seed.

2015
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 2: But you know, tough call for Pittsburgh. They're gonna have

2016
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 2: to win both and then they will win the division.

2017
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 2: Baltimore wins both, they get little health from Pittsburgh losing.

2018
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 2: So you know, it's the National Football League. There are

2019
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 2: no easy opponents. I don't go for this crap. But

2020
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:00,759
Speaker 2: you'd probably rather have to play Cleveland than the Bengals

2021
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: or Chiefs, right.

2022
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 5: So.

2023
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 2: Uh, don't look now. By the way, for you Ravens fans.

2024
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 2: By the way, you know we got it. We got

2025
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 2: Christmas Day, Wednesday football and then actual Football League. I

2026
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,600
Speaker 2: think it's I think that's awesome. I don't care what

2027
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 2: anybody says, got Chief Steelers, Ravens Texans. Now it's on Netflix,

2028
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 2: but regardless, we got it. So a lot of those

2029
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 2: questions might be answered that day. So you know, Park,

2030
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 2: you know, markt spot on the couch and be ready

2031
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 2: to go. I'll tell you who else marks or spot

2032
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: on the couch for any postseason the Jets. Now, earlier,

2033
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: when Shane and I were talking and we were talking

2034
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 2: about the the NBAL started week in debacle, he said, oh,

2035
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 2: watch it. That's fine as an NBA fan, and asked

2036
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 2: what the expectations are and he said, have any fair enough?

2037
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 2: We don't know we're looking at But when it came

2038
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 2: to XPS with the Jets, there could have not been

2039
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 2: a juxtaposition whereby the expectations of a franchise who was

2040
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 2: clearly going all in were built to win. Now instead,

2041
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 2: They're going to miss the playoffs for a fourteenth consecutive season.

2042
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 2: The Jets are four and ten. They already have as

2043
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 2: many losses as they did last year. And then have

2044
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers last year and for four plays had Zach Wilson,

2045
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:29,879
Speaker 2: Trevor Simeon and Tim Boyle and they managed seven wins.

2046
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Jets ain't getting seven wins this year. Let's say when

2047
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 2: their last three they got to play the Rams, Bills

2048
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 2: and Dolphins. You're juxtaposing a preseason contender. It's going to

2049
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 2: finish as a bottom five team. But here's the kicker

2050
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 2: information coming out. What happened off the field with respect

2051
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 2: to the Jets. I am clearly being characterized. This is

2052
01:54:55,080 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 2: an incredibly dysfunctional organization. What happened off the field, just

2053
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 2: this is bad. Now, I get it. They've fired Robert

2054
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 2: Solid five games in five games in and since then,

2055
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 2: what the Jets have played, you know, nine more games

2056
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 2: and how's that working that? And then they fire GM

2057
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 2: Joe Douglas. Douglas a month and a half later, and

2058
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 2: after a week four loss, we are finding out that

2059
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 2: it was suggested by the owner himself that Aaron Rodgers.

2060
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Remember all we need is a quarterback should be benched.

2061
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: And now we've come full circle. And these are narratives

2062
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 2: by people who cover the team. I'm on the outside

2063
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 2: looking in. They believe that it is, in fact their

2064
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: owner who's the answer to the question who wanted Rogers benched?

2065
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: They believe is the root of all the franchise's problems.

2066
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 2: And so things really caught my attention. Now, this is crazy.

2067
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 2: They had a trade with Denver for Jerry Judy. It

2068
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 2: fell apart because the receiver's rating in EA Sports Madden

2069
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 2: game was too low. What okay, you heard me, And

2070
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 2: you've also heard other people report that. I've never heard

2071
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 2: that before. I don't think we'll ever hear it again.

2072
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: There are allegedly more than twenty people around the franchise

2073
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 2: anonymously who described the owner, Woody Johnson, as quote an overinvolved,

2074
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 2: impulsive owner. One former player described the organization as the

2075
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 2: most dysfunctional place imaginable that's going to leave a mark.

2076
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 2: So when the Jets traded Zach Wilson, Denver asked for

2077
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 2: the final pick of the draft, that's it, two hundred

2078
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 2: and fifty seventh overall. Instead, Johnson says, I'll tell you

2079
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 2: what we'll give you a two hundred and fifty sixth pick.

2080
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 2: So he wanted a draft of Mystery Irrelevant. The Broncos

2081
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 2: happily took the earlier pick, based it on a guard

2082
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: by the name of Nick Grgulo who's on their active roster.

2083
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 2: By the way, who was the j that's mister Irrelevant?

2084
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 2: A guy by the name of Jalen Key who got

2085
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 2: cut from the practice squad in October. Oh yeah, Now

2086
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers got his own series on Netflix, The Self

2087
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 2: Absorbed Aaron Rodgers. It gave him a chance to share

2088
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 2: his side of the story. Do you even care anymore?

2089
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Jets fans. It would have been

2090
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 2: exciting to see him in the playoffs coming up? What

2091
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 2: kind of brand new food do you followed by? What

2092
01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: my name? Keep it locked? It's Bernie fraddle Show, Fox

2093
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Yep, that's right, you heard the man and

2094
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraleshow keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie

2095
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Speaker 2: Fraddiwick Kennedy Lyer from the tarret dot com studios here

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Speaker 2: Before we get to our Saturday night feature here, I

2101
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 2: want to read a tweet comes from Sean and Portland.

2102
01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 2: In the words of the great Ben Maller. Stats tell

2103
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 2: you what has happened, not what's going to happen. I

2104
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 2: think what he's alluding to there is there is no

2105
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 2: argument that the stacks regarding the Kansas City Chiefs have

2106
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 2: not been necessarily representative of fourteen to one team, all

2107
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 2: points duly noted by Mark and Jay. But those staffs

2108
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 2: tell you what happened, not what's going to happen. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Let's let this play out. That's why this is so

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01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 2: much fun. You've heard me say it a thousand times.

2111
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 2: Sports are the greatest reality show. And you can script

2112
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 2: everything but the ending. And on that note, well, we've

2113
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 2: come to that juncture. You know you love you. You can't

2114
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 2: leave without the dance sensation sweep of the nation. You

2115
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 2: see here on the Bernie Frattle Show. We observe we

2116
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 2: got a crack staff and are always observing things. Yo,

2117
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 2: Gembarrass and you can observe a lot by watching. Because

2118
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,800
Speaker 2: around this great land of ours, from seed to oily seed,

2119
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 2: and surely around the globe, people engage in behaviors and

2120
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,720
Speaker 2: do things. And sometimes they are not very smart, and

2121
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 2: they are silly, and they can land you in trouble.

2122
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes are innocuous. Other times they're far more serious, and

2123
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 2: they land you in big trouble, sometimes even in jail.

2124
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:09,400
Speaker 2: But anyway you slice it, anyway you describe it, anyway,

2125
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,919
Speaker 2: I characterize that these behaviors always always leave us scratching

2126
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 2: our heads and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new

2127
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 2: fool are you?

2128
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you?

2129
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 2: Well, we take you back to what has perhaps been

2130
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 2: the most popular state in these various vignette features, and

2131
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: that is the great state of Florida. And we take

2132
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 2: you to Coco, Florida, where we introduce you to a

2133
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 2: twenty five year old woman named Amber. Well, let's start

2134
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 2: at the end and work backward or forward, or however

2135
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 2: the well you want to call it. You see, because

2136
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 2: police responded to a street in Coco after a witness

2137
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 2: called nine to one one to report an incident. Now,

2138
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 2: it remains unclear what the witness saw, but when the

2139
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 2: police arrived, they found an elderly lady laying on the

2140
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 2: ground who was very hurt and transported to a local

2141
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 2: hospital in critical but stable condition. It turns out that

2142
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 2: this lady was the mother of the aforementioned Amber r

2143
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 2: who had conveniently already left the area, but apparently they

2144
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 2: had gotten to do quite the argument. Now, we don't

2145
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: know what the argument was about, what it entailed, but

2146
02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 2: we do know what happened next. Amber decided she would

2147
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 2: first beat up her mother. Then she decided she would

2148
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: steal her mother's car. She wasn't done. She decided to

2149
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 2: back up over Amber's mom and finish the job. Yes,

2150
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 2: she ran over her own mother or her mother's car

2151
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 2: after beating her up. We don't know what the argument

2152
02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 2: was about. We don't know anything except Amber was charged

2153
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 2: and arrested with aggravated battery and car jagging after the

2154
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 2: incident took place, and police said, oh, by the way,

2155
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:22,920
Speaker 2: additional charges could be forthcoming pending an investigation. Now here's

2156
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 2: the beauty. You always love consistency in people, don't you.

2157
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,600
Speaker 2: In the last six years, little miss Amber has been

2158
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 2: arrested ten times, her fourth this year. According to the

2159
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:39,280
Speaker 2: arrest records, from the Brevard County Sheriff's Office. Most recently,

2160
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 2: she was charged with domestic battery in September and other

2161
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 2: charges related to drug position, prostitution, and battery. I believe

2162
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 2: folks should call that a five tool player anyway. Anyway,

2163
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 2: slice it, ladies and gentlemen. Amber R. From Cocoa, Florida.

2164
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool? Are you?

2165
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Speaker 3: All right?

2166
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:07,879
Speaker 2: Mister Shade take it away.

2167
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 7: Rhymes, She's definitely a resident of Florida, Bernie, I can

2168
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 7: tell you that.

2169
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, what a Florida's finest.

2170
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, just a Swiss army knife, you could say.

2171
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, seriously, seriously, mine's a little bit more lighthearder than yours,

2172
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 7: but still a definitely what.

2173
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 8: Kind of fool? You know? You ever heard of the

2174
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 8: toilet brand Sharman Sharman.

2175
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 2: Please don't squeeze to Sharman.

2176
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: I do, I do.

2177
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 7: I'm a big fan of the bear commercials myself. Oh yeah,

2178
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 7: the Little Bear Family. I don't know why, but that

2179
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 7: those are the ones I grew up with. I haven't

2180
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 7: seen in Sharman Ultrasoft commercial in a very long time.

2181
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,560
Speaker 2: No, very true, very true.

2182
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 7: But this takes me to Connecticut and actually all around

2183
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 7: the US. But this story is from Connecticut, where a

2184
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 7: woman is in a stinky situation and honestly appears that

2185
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 7: she's not alone when Jarman sent her an email saying

2186
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 7: she was the winner of a year's supply of toilet

2187
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 7: paper coming from the Sharman company, and not hours later,

2188
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 7: the company sent her another email with the subject line saying, oopsie,

2189
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 7: we made a poopsie. And that's a quote in the email.

2190
02:03:20,160 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 7: They said, you recently received an email from us stating

2191
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 7: that you were the winner of a Sharman Super Mega

2192
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 7: sweepstakes this month, and in that super Mega sweepstakes, it

2193
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 7: would be a year supply of Sharman. Unfortunately, that message

2194
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 7: was sent in error. We are very sorry for any convenience,

2195
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 7: and we know that this is disappointing. Please be on

2196
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:41,960
Speaker 7: the lookout for another email in the next couple of

2197
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 7: days with instructions on how to receive.

2198
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 8: Get this a two dollars Sharman coupon.

2199
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:52,920
Speaker 7: Thank you for rolling with us, They end the message Wow. So,

2200
02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:56,680
Speaker 7: according to others, this was a situation that was happening

2201
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 7: a lot throughout the US, and a lot of people

2202
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 7: received this email. The person that came with the story

2203
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 7: scent is her name, is her last name.

2204
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 8: That's all that she really gave. Said.

2205
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:11,360
Speaker 7: She received the congratulations email from the chairman not long

2206
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:15,040
Speaker 7: after taking an online quiz, told all her coworkers that

2207
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 7: she won, and of all things that she won, toilet

2208
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:20,520
Speaker 7: paper was laughing about the whole situation, but then the

2209
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 7: email made it even funnier for her. So when they call,

2210
02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:29,120
Speaker 7: when you call Sharman too now, supposedly it comes with

2211
02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 7: a message saying, if you are calling about an email

2212
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 7: you received regarding winning the Sharman Super Mega Sweepstakes. Unfortunately

2213
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 7: the email was sent in error. We apologie Eyes for

2214
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 7: any community confusion. No additional action is needed As of

2215
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 7: right now, nothing else is out on Sharman or anything

2216
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 7: regarding this incident. But this leads me to just say,

2217
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 7: Sharman Ultrasoft, what kind of brand new fool?

2218
02:04:57,600 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 1: Are you really?

2219
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 2: Different? Story from the irony that, yeah, no, it's all good.

2220
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 2: The irony of this is that they're actually it feels

2221
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:09,440
Speaker 2: like they're getting a lot of free advertising.

2222
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 7: It seems like it because I haven't thought about Sharman

2223
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 7: in a very long time, and now I'm putting them

2224
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:17,440
Speaker 7: on six hundred plus stations.

2225
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 8: Maybe they Maybe they did the right thing.

2226
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 7: Maybe they knew about this, Maybe they knew, Hey, Bernie's

2227
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 7: gonna have a what kind of fool are you?

2228
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 8: On Sunday night? Let's go ahead and do this.

2229
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 2: Maybe what kind of fool are we? We took the

2230
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:34,320
Speaker 2: bait exactly, but still I love the story. You know what, oopsie?

2231
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 2: We did a poopsie? Yeah? What if they did this

2232
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 2: on purpose?

2233
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 7: Seriously, I was looking at it's a there's a screenshot

2234
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 7: of the of the email too, and it's literally that's

2235
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:43,920
Speaker 7: the subject line, And I was.

2236
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,800
Speaker 2: Like, you don't know, this story really actually resonates with

2237
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:52,960
Speaker 2: me if I might might may digress. Look, I'm not

2238
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 2: ashamed of him, and I'll eat the occasional frozen pizza,

2239
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:57,880
Speaker 2: right the worst pizza ever had was wonderful. Some are

2240
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 2: better than others. But back in the day, they used

2241
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 2: to have this brand called Old Boy Pizza. If your

2242
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 2: Old Boy Pizza can have Mark Review.

2243
02:06:06,520 --> 02:06:07,520
Speaker 1: Never heard that one before.

2244
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I bet if you google it, it's out there.

2245
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 2: But here's the point. So my buddy Gary Johnson, it

2246
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:20,880
Speaker 2: was like seventh grade, We're having a pizza at his

2247
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 2: house and his his mom did not like that pizza

2248
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 2: for some reason. Finally me and his mom didn't like it.

2249
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 2: She got so pissed off. She's one of those she

2250
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 2: wrote a letter to Old Boy Pizza complaining on how

2251
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 2: bad the Old Boy Pizza was. Sure enough, about three

2252
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 2: or four weeks later she got a response to the

2253
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 2: mail from Old Boy Pizza. You guessed it a coupon

2254
02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 2: for fifty percent off on an Old Boy pizza. So

2255
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,560
Speaker 2: this must be like the strategy, Right, you're gonna complain,

2256
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 2: we'll want you have another one, have another one on us,

2257
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 2: something like that. So didn't they get that person get like.

2258
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 7: A coupon for for Yeah, everyone everyone that received the

2259
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 7: email got a two dollars coupon to Charman, I don't

2260
02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:05,400
Speaker 7: know how much a toilet thing is, so two dollars

2261
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 7: could be a lot, could be a little. Yeah, it

2262
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 7: seems like a little compared to a year's supply. But

2263
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 7: he knows you're two dollars.

2264
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 8: You're two dollars.

2265
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 2: You never look like you'll get Barrett once said in

2266
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:21,520
Speaker 2: nickoling Worth a diamon anymore. All right, good job guys,

2267
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 2: outstanding all the way around. That concludes another rocket edition

2268
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 2: of what kind of brand new fool you followed by

2269
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 2: our second favorite bit that we lovingly refer to as

2270
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:41,520
Speaker 2: what my name? Hey, here we go. Alrighty, this guy's

2271
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 2: name has come up more than once on the show tonight.

2272
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 5: I am the only.

2273
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:51,640
Speaker 2: Quarterback in NFL history to throw for three touchdowns in

2274
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,880
Speaker 2: a game and have three touchdown runs in the same

2275
02:07:55,000 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 2: game and still lose the game. Mark Ramsey, What my name?

2276
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,560
Speaker 2: His name has come up earlier in the show as

2277
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:07,720
Speaker 2: a potential quarterback.

2278
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 1: Is it Josh Allen?

2279
02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 2: It is, in fact Josh Allen? And we are off

2280
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 2: with a resounding starter. Now, this one's a little tougher,

2281
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 2: but I think you can get it, okay, and bring

2282
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:27,840
Speaker 2: it on. I'm the only NFL lineman in history to

2283
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 2: be named to a Pro Bowl team twice before the

2284
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 2: age of twenty five. He was a legend at USC

2285
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:39,080
Speaker 2: back when USC was USC went on to play for

2286
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. He's in the Hall of Fame. What

2287
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 2: my name?

2288
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 8: Okay, So he's in the Hall of Fame.

2289
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 2: Played at USC, YEP two Pro Bowls before the age

2290
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 2: of twenty five.

2291
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 8: Did he play for the Browns?

2292
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 2: He played for the Bengals. Uh.

2293
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:57,840
Speaker 8: I want to say Joe Thomas, but that's not.

2294
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, much earlier, much earlier, Joe Joe played for the Browns.

2295
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 2: I believe, yeah he did. Yeah, Oh gosh, uh, all right,

2296
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 2: Marc will give you a clue. His first name is.

2297
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 1: I know he's a commentator right now, I'm trying to

2298
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 1: think of his name.

2299
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 2: But got it, You're you're honing in on it. So

2300
02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 2: his first name is the first name of an actor

2301
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 2: whose last name is Michael Hall.

2302
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,000
Speaker 1: I can see his face. He but I know he's

2303
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 1: a current commentator. But he was alignment on the they

2304
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,480
Speaker 1: got to the Super Bowl. He was on the Biggles.

2305
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: But I know his name.

2306
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, twenty three they lost to the forty nine ers.

2307
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 2: I actually got to two Super Bow. Well, let's see, yeah,

2308
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 2: two super Bowls eighty two, it's the Super Bowl sixteen,

2309
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 2: both against the Niners. Want to give it one last.

2310
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 8: Crack, Shay, I have no idea.

2311
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 2: He'symonos. Oh do you guys know who that is?

2312
02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:57,800
Speaker 8: I do know who that is.

2313
02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he went to Chafey High School. We had

2314
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,400
Speaker 2: the distinction of knocking them out of the CIF playoffs

2315
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 2: and he pitched that day. A good guy, the really

2316
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,840
Speaker 2: interesting guy. I've always wanted to run across from again.

2317
02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 2: Never had a chance.

2318
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 8: He was a picture.

2319
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 2: He was a pitcher.

2320
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 8: That's cool.

2321
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 2: He was. I think I think he even played one

2322
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,560
Speaker 2: year on the USC baseball team pitcher lineman.

2323
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Speaker 8: That's a that's random. You don't really see that.

2324
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:25,520
Speaker 2: No, he a big dude. But and and by the way,

2325
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 2: you guys ever noticed when running backs return from the

2326
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:33,480
Speaker 2: NFL they blow up like a balloon. And then when lineman, yeah,

2327
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:34,600
Speaker 2: they get real skinny.

2328
02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 8: Well it makes sense.

2329
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 7: It's because the linemen that they they're they literally are

2330
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:42,280
Speaker 7: eating so much food to stay six five, three hundred

2331
02:10:42,280 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 7: and four hundred pounds. Yeah, because they're always eating a lot,

2332
02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:48,240
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like linemen are always eating

2333
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 7: like crazy and not really eating the healthiest they're doing.

2334
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Speaker 1: All the games. They work it up, eat and then work.

2335
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 1: It's all it goes around because of their eating. They

2336
02:10:57,080 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 1: just work it up in the games.

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Speaker 2: Well what's crazy, though, is there's a lot of these

2338
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 2: running backs who you remember, right, I mean, Eric the

2339
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:08,360
Speaker 2: Enemy was just a stud. I mean he was coming

2340
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 2: out of San Diego, was incredible, right, he was superb

2341
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 2: in college, superb in the NFL. And if you walked

2342
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 2: into a room right now, people that know who know

2343
02:11:18,080 --> 02:11:21,480
Speaker 2: who he was. I mean, I love Eric the Enemy,

2344
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:23,560
Speaker 2: but if he was an installer, it'd be a perfect circle.

2345
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not the same. All running backs gained

2346
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 2: a ton of money. I gained a ton of weight. Anyway,

2347
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 2: how the hell would I get off on that one?

2348
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 2: All Right? I am a quarterback of the National Football

2349
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 2: League and I was in line last week at Costco

2350
02:11:40,360 --> 02:11:42,440
Speaker 2: waiting for my hot dog when I was announced that

2351
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:43,800
Speaker 2: I was going to be the starter of this week

2352
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey with my name?

2353
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 1: Is it Pennix?

2354
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 2: It is Pennix, Michael Pennix Junior. I love that story.

2355
02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 2: I love that story. I love go hop talks too.

2356
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: All right. I'm also an NFL quarterback, but believe it

2357
02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:14,840
Speaker 2: or not, I currently have the longest streak among all

2358
02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:21,160
Speaker 2: NFL quarterbacks of attempted passes without an interception. Shane Ovingar,

2359
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 2: what my name? You're gonna get this and you're gonna

2360
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:26,680
Speaker 2: be shocked. But it's true.

2361
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, So that means it's the last guy you'd

2362
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:37,480
Speaker 7: think of, man, Okay, is he like a starting quarterback?

2363
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 2: He's like a starting quarterback.

2364
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 8: Sam d.

2365
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 2: Well Not no, not Sam. I love Sam, I mean

2366
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 2: you like quarter Well that's wordplay out my part. Okay, okay, okay,

2367
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:54,760
Speaker 2: we've kind of had a watch on this guy a year,

2368
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,560
Speaker 2: but not really, but we were gonna be. We kind

2369
02:12:56,600 --> 02:13:01,040
Speaker 2: of did. Caleb. It's Caleb why he currently has the

2370
02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 2: longest streak among all NFL quarterbacks. Attempt to putt NFL.

2371
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 8: No, it's because he's getting sacked too much. You can't

2372
02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:07,760
Speaker 8: even throw them.

2373
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you people that I think the

2374
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 2: Bears man are got one in for the Lions on Sunday.

2375
02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that it's just the stars are lining up.

2376
02:13:18,280 --> 02:13:21,000
Speaker 7: Well, you saw sorry, sorry for interrupt You saw all

2377
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:23,880
Speaker 7: this stuff about Caleb, like how he's basically just done

2378
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:26,240
Speaker 7: with the season and he's just tired.

2379
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 2: It talks too much, but I can understand his frustration. Okay,

2380
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:32,440
Speaker 2: when you're not used to losing, although you should be

2381
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 2: used to losing the USC they lose there too. The

2382
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 2: man's a competitor, okay. I mean he didn't get to

2383
02:13:38,560 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 2: be the number one draft pick overall, uh you know,

2384
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 2: because his dad called the coach.

2385
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 8: I mean, oh yeah, I get that.

2386
02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:48,520
Speaker 7: What is what are your expectations though you're going on

2387
02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 7: to the Bears were notoriously a horrible quarterback. I mean,

2388
02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 7: it's a horrible organization for quarterbacks.

2389
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 2: For no Legim McMahon never gets the love coming out

2390
02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 2: of by U. He's phenomenal. People just skip right over him.

2391
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you are, but look, no, I did.

2392
02:14:02,640 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 2: Expectations are are that you progress? Okay, that's the only

2393
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 2: expectations to remember, I covered the lines for ten years. Sure,

2394
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 2: I think he's shown some of that. I don't know

2395
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:16,200
Speaker 2: if he's got the temperament though. There's something about the dude. Man,

2396
02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I don't what was your expectations?

2397
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 2: Like like, and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying

2398
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 2: to take this away from the Bears. Like Kevin Sepancy

2399
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:24,000
Speaker 2: is a great coach, but if you were going to

2400
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:26,000
Speaker 2: be a quarterback on the Browns as a rookie, there

2401
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:28,320
Speaker 2: goes your career, you know what I mean. Like, it's

2402
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:31,600
Speaker 2: more of just like a situation base where Caleb should

2403
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 2: have known where he was going and kind of known

2404
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:36,120
Speaker 2: what he was putting himself into and we have set

2405
02:14:36,240 --> 02:14:38,360
Speaker 2: himself up for that rooky season where this is what's

2406
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:40,440
Speaker 2: going to happen. I need to put my helmet on

2407
02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:42,080
Speaker 2: and I need to be ready instead of kind of

2408
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:44,240
Speaker 2: doing all this media stuff that he's doing, which well,

2409
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:46,800
Speaker 2: but you knew that coming in, yeah, with the painted

2410
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:48,840
Speaker 2: nails and all that crap, and you know what, you're right,

2411
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 2: You're right. I'll juxtapose it. Listen, no one has an

2412
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 2: easy pathway into the National Football League, nobody. You got

2413
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:59,920
Speaker 2: to earn it. Okay, it's an exclusive club. He came

2414
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 2: by your way in. Let me just say this about

2415
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:06,720
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. Compare him to c J. Stroud. Everybody forgot

2416
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:10,800
Speaker 2: the situation he was going into in Houston two years ago,

2417
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 2: more than two years ago, way worse than the Bears.

2418
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 2: The freaking Bears went to the playoff two d and

2419
02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:21,120
Speaker 2: three years with a midst Drubinsky. So CJ. Stroud, being

2420
02:15:21,160 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 2: of sound mind and character and a stellar human being

2421
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:27,120
Speaker 2: in addition to being a damn good quarterback, elevated the

2422
02:15:27,160 --> 02:15:32,080
Speaker 2: franchise instead of crying, okay, shut the f up, shut

2423
02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 2: the front door. The playball.

2424
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:34,120
Speaker 9: Now.

2425
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 2: I always say I'm going to give a quarterback twenty

2426
02:15:36,920 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 2: seven starts before our passed judgment, But I think what

2427
02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 2: we're really not We're not going to be talking about

2428
02:15:41,720 --> 02:15:45,320
Speaker 2: his physical ability as much as we're talking about his temperament. Right,

2429
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:47,920
Speaker 2: It's not what happens to your life, it's how you react.

2430
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:50,680
Speaker 1: The hype was so big by Caleb.

2431
02:15:50,800 --> 02:15:51,760
Speaker 2: Oh my good god.

2432
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 1: There was Sears Tower, King Kong kind of hype about Caleb,

2433
02:15:56,560 --> 02:16:00,880
Speaker 1: and it was he had a particular kind the seasons

2434
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:04,680
Speaker 1: at USC and it was just built so high that

2435
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 1: it was just horrible how he just came down so fast.

2436
02:16:08,600 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 2: Mark, do you remember in Shade Too, you too, that

2437
02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:14,040
Speaker 2: when it was talked about that he might be drafted

2438
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:16,880
Speaker 2: number one over by the Bears. Somehow he managed to

2439
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,640
Speaker 2: chime in and imply, well, first I wasn't sure if

2440
02:16:20,680 --> 02:16:23,160
Speaker 2: you wanted to go to Chicago. Then you changed that

2441
02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:26,240
Speaker 2: tune real quick. Remember he said he wanted a piece

2442
02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:28,800
Speaker 2: of the team. You guys remember that?

2443
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that.

2444
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:30,160
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2445
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,320
Speaker 1: See that was that was the I think that was

2446
02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:34,200
Speaker 1: part of the hype, that he was so great that

2447
02:16:34,320 --> 02:16:36,280
Speaker 1: he would be able to have a piece of the

2448
02:16:36,360 --> 02:16:39,680
Speaker 1: team because he would just take the Bears to the

2449
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:43,640
Speaker 1: height of Jim McMahon. But as we've seen, like a

2450
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:47,879
Speaker 1: bad plane going down, I will.

2451
02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:51,640
Speaker 2: Say this though, write it down, call me out next week.

2452
02:16:51,680 --> 02:16:54,120
Speaker 2: If I'm full of blowney, I think the Bears are

2453
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:56,400
Speaker 2: going to give the lines everything they want here in

2454
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,520
Speaker 2: a few hours. Crappy weather outdoors. You gotta situate where

2455
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:05,280
Speaker 2: you know it's it's all lining up divisional game. Lions

2456
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:06,800
Speaker 2: are really banged up a defense. All right, we got

2457
02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:10,640
Speaker 2: three quick ones. I'm currently a college football head coach.

2458
02:17:11,080 --> 02:17:14,119
Speaker 2: My school's won more games in the last two seasons

2459
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:17,959
Speaker 2: in any other school in the land. Shane Mogger with my.

2460
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:22,879
Speaker 7: Name the most wins in college football in the last

2461
02:17:23,080 --> 02:17:23,960
Speaker 7: two seasons.

2462
02:17:24,200 --> 02:17:28,039
Speaker 8: Yes, and they and it's the head coach of that.

2463
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:29,279
Speaker 2: Team, that's correct.

2464
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:36,160
Speaker 8: Okay, let's go with Kirby Smart.

2465
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:38,360
Speaker 2: You're very close to not Kirby Smart.

2466
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:43,039
Speaker 1: Mark, Well, it's not Dion.

2467
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:46,879
Speaker 2: Dan Landing of Oregon twenty five.

2468
02:17:47,240 --> 02:17:48,400
Speaker 8: No, I should okay.

2469
02:17:48,720 --> 02:17:51,800
Speaker 2: Over seventy players in Major League Baseball history bat at

2470
02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:53,640
Speaker 2: right handed but through left handed, but I'm the only

2471
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:55,160
Speaker 2: one that ever made it to an All Star Game.

2472
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:56,320
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey with my name.

2473
02:17:57,720 --> 02:17:58,320
Speaker 1: Is it Ricky?

2474
02:17:58,720 --> 02:18:05,200
Speaker 2: It is Ricky Henderson, last one. Only seventy players in

2475
02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:08,920
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball history battery right handed and through left

2476
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:10,200
Speaker 2: but I'm the only one to ever make it to

2477
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,560
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Shame ovire? What my name?

2478
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:18,720
Speaker 8: So there he batted right handed and he threw left handed.

2479
02:18:19,040 --> 02:18:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's will be seventy players in the issue, though

2480
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm the only one that made it.

2481
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:25,520
Speaker 7: To the Hall of show Fame. Oh man, I don't

2482
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:29,840
Speaker 7: even know any is anyone that's like that? Can you

2483
02:18:29,879 --> 02:18:30,640
Speaker 7: help me out here, Mark?

2484
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:33,480
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, Joe Peppertemo, that's not right.

2485
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:36,000
Speaker 2: I love Joe Pepperton. Now that's a class. We were

2486
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:38,840
Speaker 2: do four of those good old timey school names so

2487
02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:42,560
Speaker 2: that we should never get old guys. It's Ricky Henderson,

2488
02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:44,680
Speaker 2: is it? I mentioned it earlier in the show.

2489
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:48,119
Speaker 8: Oh my god, think about this. This guy's a legend.

2490
02:18:49,080 --> 02:18:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh you have no idea?

2491
02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 8: I really don't, you have no I honestly got.

2492
02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:56,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The guy has numbers and things.

2493
02:18:56,400 --> 02:19:01,400
Speaker 1: And that was my back comparison about and players aren't

2494
02:19:01,440 --> 02:19:03,840
Speaker 1: going to have those kind of numbers when we look

2495
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:05,359
Speaker 1: at their at the end of their careers.

2496
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a bad comparison. I mean, okay,

2497
02:19:09,360 --> 02:19:12,960
Speaker 2: Lou Brock is as prolific a base dealer has ever

2498
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 2: played the game. He stole nine hundred and thirty eight.

2499
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:16,600
Speaker 2: Ricky beat it by five hundred.

2500
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 8: Yeah he.

2501
02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:21,640
Speaker 2: He stole one hundred and thirty. Who led this year? Guys,

2502
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:22,119
Speaker 2: Ellie da.

2503
02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:25,879
Speaker 8: La Cruz, I think it was. Yeah, I'll look at

2504
02:19:25,879 --> 02:19:26,280
Speaker 8: it right now.

2505
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 2: That's yes. You want to know what he looked like?

2506
02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:36,080
Speaker 2: Picture Ellie de la Cruz and Ricky could hit three

2507
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:41,840
Speaker 2: hundred and lead off a home run eighty one times? Right? If?

2508
02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:45,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was Eli sixty seven stolen bases beautiful, I.

2509
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:47,400
Speaker 2: Might have to use that for what my name in

2510
02:19:47,480 --> 02:19:50,800
Speaker 2: a future future show. All right, guys, that'll do it.

2511
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Speaker 2: Another rousing edition of what kind of brand new food

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Speaker 2: are you? Followed by what my Name? The Bernie Frawtles

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Speaker 2: Show continues. Keep it locked. You are listener to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frauds Show on Fox Sports Radio. Right back at

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. We are comedy

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Speaker 2: live from the Tarak dot Com studios here in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: and as you know by now, we pretty much covered all.

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02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:17,080
Speaker 2: We leave no stone unturned, even the other football still

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Speaker 2: fut b o l yep, It's time Chris Burphett's World

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Speaker 4: The Greatest Schools, the thrilling finishes the international drum. It's

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Speaker 4: all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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Speaker 5: Bernie.

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Speaker 9: Happy holidays to you and yours out and to everyone

2525
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:49,080
Speaker 9: listening to the world of soccer out there. We're going

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02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:51,360
Speaker 9: to talk a little bit about a one Boxing day

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02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:53,800
Speaker 9: matchup I really have my eyes on. But first we

2528
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 9: have to start with MLS as they kind of look

2529
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:59,120
Speaker 9: at the past year that has been for them, and

2530
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:02,240
Speaker 9: unfortunately for them, it's not great news. It's a little

2531
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:04,840
Speaker 9: bit of coal in the stockings, and it's one that

2532
02:21:04,879 --> 02:21:07,280
Speaker 9: I've long had my suspicions about, and it turns out

2533
02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:10,560
Speaker 9: to be right. I worried a lot when MLS penned

2534
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,760
Speaker 9: this deal with Apple for them to put together the

2535
02:21:14,600 --> 02:21:17,680
Speaker 9: season pass on Apple TV, not part of Apple TV itself.

2536
02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:20,560
Speaker 9: It's a multi hundred dollars add on you have to

2537
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:23,560
Speaker 9: purchase ten years to two point five billion. Its certainly

2538
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:26,840
Speaker 9: made MLS flush with money, but has it really worked?

2539
02:21:26,879 --> 02:21:29,400
Speaker 9: Has it been good for the game? Well, we kind

2540
02:21:29,440 --> 02:21:32,320
Speaker 9: of got a sign that things weren't great. So this

2541
02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 9: past year all that was really on linear TV, cable

2542
02:21:35,440 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 9: and network was a thirty four game schedule on Fox.

2543
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:42,080
Speaker 9: Only two games from inter Miami with the Golden Child

2544
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:47,359
Speaker 9: Leonel Messi, and you know the playoffs and the MLS Cup. Unfortunately,

2545
02:21:47,640 --> 02:21:51,680
Speaker 9: in spite of featuring two teams from the two biggest

2546
02:21:51,800 --> 02:21:55,920
Speaker 9: markets in this country, LA Galaxy and Red Bull New York,

2547
02:21:56,440 --> 02:21:59,560
Speaker 9: viewership for the MLS Cup was down hold on a

2548
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:01,440
Speaker 9: second forty seven percent.

2549
02:22:02,320 --> 02:22:03,720
Speaker 1: All over half your.

2550
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:06,080
Speaker 9: Audience vanished on a year to year.

2551
02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:07,359
Speaker 1: That's insane.

2552
02:22:07,480 --> 02:22:10,760
Speaker 9: That's enough to get even Adam Silver up and alert

2553
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 9: and paying attention to how bad things are going. You've

2554
02:22:13,879 --> 02:22:17,080
Speaker 9: lost almost half your audience. And this isn't like something

2555
02:22:17,160 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 9: that is a passing fat. Only a couple of years

2556
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:24,240
Speaker 9: ago this MLS Cup had great numbers for Philadelphia Union

2557
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:27,520
Speaker 9: in LAFC and kind of the lead ins for a

2558
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:31,240
Speaker 9: lot of these played well with other sports. And it's

2559
02:22:31,720 --> 02:22:36,720
Speaker 9: really the woes of hiding everything on streaming. You take

2560
02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:39,520
Speaker 9: away people who are curious about your sport and you

2561
02:22:39,640 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 9: tell them to pound rocks it. Thirty four games is

2562
02:22:43,400 --> 02:22:46,120
Speaker 9: not enough to get people to understand what some of

2563
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:49,480
Speaker 9: these teams are. And thankfully MLS seems to have noticed,

2564
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:51,800
Speaker 9: and in spite of being flush with money from Apple,

2565
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 9: they're just going to try to acknowledge some of their

2566
02:22:54,080 --> 02:22:58,000
Speaker 9: shortcomings and plan to make some changes for twenty twenty five.

2567
02:22:58,680 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 9: Some of those changes would be perhaps bringing back the

2568
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:05,640
Speaker 9: idea that T mobile subscribers will get free MLS Season Pass,

2569
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:09,400
Speaker 9: just like T mobile subscribers right now get MLBtv for

2570
02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:12,320
Speaker 9: free each year. That was something that used to be offered,

2571
02:23:12,320 --> 02:23:14,800
Speaker 9: but it was taken away because Leonel Messi was such

2572
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:16,879
Speaker 9: a money maker they didn't want to hand that out

2573
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:20,959
Speaker 9: for free. Meanwhile, also, MLS for some reason doesn't really

2574
02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:24,600
Speaker 9: have any standalone time slots for big marquee matchup, and

2575
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,600
Speaker 9: it's in the report they want to create that Apple

2576
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:31,200
Speaker 9: wanted to consolidate all match windows into a standard time

2577
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:35,040
Speaker 9: of seven thirty pm Local to form habitual viewing. But

2578
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:38,039
Speaker 9: really without marquee matchups, I'm not sure that's a great

2579
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:40,760
Speaker 9: idea at the end of the day, and you really

2580
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:43,640
Speaker 9: need to highlight specific teams. You need to get back

2581
02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:47,120
Speaker 9: more on linear TV. It will make Apple matt, I'm sure,

2582
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:50,080
Speaker 9: but you need ways for people to access and get

2583
02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:52,440
Speaker 9: curious about this. Maybe there are a lot of people

2584
02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:55,080
Speaker 9: internationally who bought season pass because they want to watch

2585
02:23:55,120 --> 02:23:57,360
Speaker 9: Lenel Messi. But you know what, you have to grow

2586
02:23:57,400 --> 02:23:59,359
Speaker 9: the game here here in North America.

2587
02:23:59,440 --> 02:24:02,199
Speaker 1: You have to be a league here here in North America.

2588
02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 9: This is something I've always been frustrated about in the

2589
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:07,440
Speaker 9: streaming era, Bernie, is that I fear that as we

2590
02:24:07,560 --> 02:24:10,520
Speaker 9: go behind our gated walls, we will lose actally, have

2591
02:24:10,640 --> 02:24:13,640
Speaker 9: people lose access and stop watching because they just won't

2592
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:16,000
Speaker 9: be curious about what they're not seeing. And it seems

2593
02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:19,520
Speaker 9: like MLS is learning some of those pitfalls. Now over

2594
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:22,800
Speaker 9: to England, over to the UK and onto Boxing Day.

2595
02:24:22,879 --> 02:24:25,120
Speaker 9: For those who don't know, Boxing Day is part of

2596
02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 9: the Christmas Time holidays in the United Kingdom. It was

2597
02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 9: once a holiday to donate gifts to those in need,

2598
02:24:31,760 --> 02:24:34,480
Speaker 9: but it's basically become another shopping day to get after

2599
02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:39,800
Speaker 9: Christmas deals and it is a celebrated across of the

2600
02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 9: UK and former Commonwealth nations. But it's also a day

2601
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:45,840
Speaker 9: where we get plenty of soccer in the Premier League

2602
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:49,760
Speaker 9: and there's quite a few matchups on this day that

2603
02:24:49,879 --> 02:24:54,480
Speaker 9: are really interesting to watch. Manchester City is playing Manchester City,

2604
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:56,800
Speaker 9: who has been in a lot of trouble as of late,

2605
02:24:56,959 --> 02:25:00,760
Speaker 9: dropping the Manchester Derby and awaiting and really fallen behind

2606
02:25:00,959 --> 02:25:05,640
Speaker 9: in the standings. Chelsea playing Everton in a very interesting matchup,

2607
02:25:05,680 --> 02:25:08,720
Speaker 9: and I really believe that Chelsea might be the one

2608
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:12,760
Speaker 9: team that can challenge Liverpool for the Premiership this year,

2609
02:25:13,760 --> 02:25:18,680
Speaker 9: notwithstanding Arsenal or maybe Nottingham Forest. Now I've got some

2610
02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:21,200
Speaker 9: reservations in Notmeningham Forest. I'll explain that. But let's talk

2611
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,840
Speaker 9: about Nottingham Forest. This is a club that just got

2612
02:25:23,879 --> 02:25:26,800
Speaker 9: promoted a couple of years ago and really they had

2613
02:25:26,959 --> 02:25:29,200
Speaker 9: clawed their way back to the Premiership. They were one

2614
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:31,840
Speaker 9: of the founding members of the Premier League, and this

2615
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:33,760
Speaker 9: is a club with a lot of history. Founded in

2616
02:25:33,879 --> 02:25:38,640
Speaker 9: eighteen sixty five, they are champions from the nineteen seventy

2617
02:25:38,680 --> 02:25:43,320
Speaker 9: eight First Division season, the four runners to the Premier League,

2618
02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:47,560
Speaker 9: and they have won the European Cup twice in the eighties,

2619
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:50,600
Speaker 9: which is now the UEFA Champions League. They were the

2620
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:54,520
Speaker 9: toast of Europe in the eighties, but the nineties really

2621
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:57,960
Speaker 9: saw the club fall on some really, really hard times

2622
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:00,720
Speaker 9: and they returned to the Premier League twenty twenty two

2623
02:26:00,760 --> 02:26:03,879
Speaker 9: by winning playoffs and now right now they have had

2624
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:07,160
Speaker 9: a fantastic start to the year. They are right now

2625
02:26:07,360 --> 02:26:09,920
Speaker 9: coming into this weekend on Friday, sitting in fourth place

2626
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:12,640
Speaker 9: with twenty eight points, two behind Arsenal, which means if

2627
02:26:12,879 --> 02:26:15,960
Speaker 9: they play the season ended today, they would be in

2628
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:20,280
Speaker 9: the Champions League. That's incredible and a lot of their

2629
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:24,600
Speaker 9: success is coming from their forward Chris Wood. Of the

2630
02:26:24,680 --> 02:26:28,200
Speaker 9: twenty one goals scored in Premier League play this year

2631
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:30,119
Speaker 9: by Nottingham Forest, Chris.

2632
02:26:29,959 --> 02:26:32,640
Speaker 1: Wood has ten of them. He has over half of them.

2633
02:26:32,959 --> 02:26:35,160
Speaker 9: But that's also why I start to get a little

2634
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:37,520
Speaker 9: concerned about Nottingham Forest in the long term.

2635
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:40,600
Speaker 1: That kind of imbalance kind of shows you that, hey,

2636
02:26:40,959 --> 02:26:41,920
Speaker 1: you got to be careful.

2637
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:44,000
Speaker 9: Maybe there might be an injury down the road that

2638
02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:47,480
Speaker 9: really strews up this, or maybe there's, you know, something

2639
02:26:47,560 --> 02:26:49,920
Speaker 9: that really kind of falls apart. Either way, they are

2640
02:26:49,959 --> 02:26:53,320
Speaker 9: a fantastic story right now. I have my reservations on them.

2641
02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:58,320
Speaker 9: On Boxing Day they will be playing Tottenham Hotspur, a

2642
02:26:58,720 --> 02:27:01,400
Speaker 9: good club, not a great club, but that will be

2643
02:27:01,560 --> 02:27:04,960
Speaker 9: one hell of a matchup ten am Easter and seven

2644
02:27:05,080 --> 02:27:07,359
Speaker 9: am Pacific, something to really.

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02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:07,880
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on.

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02:27:08,080 --> 02:27:11,080
Speaker 9: That will be the real treat of Boxing Day as

2647
02:27:11,160 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 9: we continue to see if Nottingham can keep pace with

2648
02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:17,320
Speaker 9: the giants of Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea For this Premier

2649
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:18,160
Speaker 9: League season.

2650
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:19,320
Speaker 1: That'll do it for us.

2651
02:27:19,440 --> 02:27:19,760
Speaker 2: Bernie.

2652
02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:22,640
Speaker 9: Happy holidays to everyone out there and we'll see you

2653
02:27:22,760 --> 02:27:23,680
Speaker 9: soon for the new year.

2654
02:27:24,040 --> 02:27:24,640
Speaker 3: On the world of.

2655
02:27:24,640 --> 02:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Soccer, and of course Tottenham Hotsford Stadium incredible. I was

2656
02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:34,600
Speaker 2: there in May, got the full tour and use my

2657
02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:38,800
Speaker 2: NFL connections that were going on. It's amazing, amazing stadium.

2658
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:42,120
Speaker 2: We played two NFL games here this year. And lest

2659
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:45,440
Speaker 2: you forget, Boxing Day is basically I think it's a

2660
02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:49,800
Speaker 2: Canadian Christmas basically, but it's the day after Christmas on

2661
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 2: December twenty sixth. Coming up, we wrap up the show.

2662
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:57,520
Speaker 2: I might have a quick thought on Dan Campbell and

2663
02:27:57,640 --> 02:28:01,440
Speaker 2: something I call guideline versus inflexible anchor risk versus reward.

2664
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's about analytics, scott Field gamesmanship.

2665
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 2: You have to understand the decisions have consequences and I

2666
02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:12,800
Speaker 2: am not second guessing him. I'm just trying to bring

2667
02:28:12,879 --> 02:28:16,440
Speaker 2: to light a little semmlance of order anyway you slice it.

2668
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's going down to history as one of the

2669
02:28:18,360 --> 02:28:21,200
Speaker 2: best lines coaches of all time, no matter what happens.

2670
02:28:21,560 --> 02:28:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Friderwick coming your life from Las Vegas, Fox

2671
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:26,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio tenarak dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're

2672
02:28:26,560 --> 02:28:28,520
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fraddles Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2673
02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:32,880
Speaker 2: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

2674
02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:36,440
Speaker 2: fraddle Show. We've been coming to you live since eleven

2675
02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:41,760
Speaker 2: pm Pacific time on Saturday night, live from Theatarac dot

2676
02:28:41,840 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 2: Com studios here Fox Sports Radio in Las Vegas. And

2677
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:46,880
Speaker 2: before I go any further, I want to think my

2678
02:28:47,000 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 2: broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've also, of course

2679
02:28:49,879 --> 02:28:53,440
Speaker 2: been with me since eleven pm Pacific on Saturday night, Mark,

2680
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:56,760
Speaker 2: Ramsey and Shay a great job, guys, had a lot

2681
02:28:56,760 --> 02:28:59,400
Speaker 2: of fun tonight, and appreciate the teamwork and the effort

2682
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:02,520
Speaker 2: in all those good things to run Old Donalds, keep

2683
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:05,680
Speaker 2: us good together, Brand Newfool with my name in the

2684
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:09,960
Speaker 2: conversations we had about Ricky Henderson, the Kansas City Chiefs.

2685
02:29:10,040 --> 02:29:12,920
Speaker 2: As the sports world rolls on, by the way, quick

2686
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:16,480
Speaker 2: programming note, and I want you everybody happy Holidays, Marry Christmas,

2687
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Happy Hanukah, Kwanza, whatever it is you celebrate. We respect

2688
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:26,240
Speaker 2: all cultures beyond these airwaves. Wednesday night, Christmas Night with

2689
02:29:26,360 --> 02:29:28,600
Speaker 2: a great Armie Spaniard. We signed out at seven pm

2690
02:29:28,640 --> 02:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Pacific ten am ten pm Eastern for four hours and

2691
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 2: for Mike and Jason, and trust me, you're gonna want

2692
02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:42,960
Speaker 2: to not miss this show. Okay, all right, that's all

2693
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:49,600
Speaker 2: I'll say about that. I just want to have my

2694
02:29:49,720 --> 02:29:52,160
Speaker 2: quick final thought on Dan Campbell, and I want to

2695
02:29:52,200 --> 02:29:56,000
Speaker 2: make it abundantly clear to everybody that I don't second

2696
02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:59,720
Speaker 2: guest coaches, but I have opinions. I'm paid to have

2697
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:04,000
Speaker 2: a opinions. And when you make the kind of riverboat

2698
02:30:04,040 --> 02:30:09,760
Speaker 2: Gamber decisions stand Campbell makes. And let's also be clear,

2699
02:30:10,480 --> 02:30:14,760
Speaker 2: it's that type of aggressiveness, belief in his team. And

2700
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, we didn't come here to honor Cazear. We

2701
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:23,520
Speaker 2: came to conqueror Caesar attitude. It's put the lines where

2702
02:30:23,560 --> 02:30:26,280
Speaker 2: they are and if not for eleven at one time

2703
02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:28,640
Speaker 2: former starters on defense at one time another on ir

2704
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:30,959
Speaker 2: I the lines will be the clear favorite to win

2705
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:34,440
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. But listen, this is an unforgiving league,

2706
02:30:35,000 --> 02:30:37,240
Speaker 2: so you don't you can't afford to make mistakes. Not Look,

2707
02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm not an analytics guy. I respect him for me.

2708
02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:46,039
Speaker 2: They are a guideline, not an inflexible anker. They don't

2709
02:30:46,080 --> 02:30:49,360
Speaker 2: take into account the wind blowing a better team across

2710
02:30:49,440 --> 02:30:51,800
Speaker 2: the field. Yeah, it might be fourth in an inch movie.

2711
02:30:51,840 --> 02:30:53,640
Speaker 2: You've only run for three yards all day. You get

2712
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:57,280
Speaker 2: my point. But what Dan Campbell does and these riverboat decisions,

2713
02:30:58,400 --> 02:30:59,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he has anything to do with analytics,

2714
02:31:00,120 --> 02:31:04,160
Speaker 2: to do with gut field and gamesmanship. He's showing Colony's right.

2715
02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:07,800
Speaker 2: And again, these are guidelines, not inflexible anchors. So I

2716
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:10,040
Speaker 2: don't think he'd go for every time on fourth down

2717
02:31:10,440 --> 02:31:13,640
Speaker 2: just because I mean going on fourth and now for

2718
02:31:13,720 --> 02:31:17,640
Speaker 2: his own thirty one the other day, there's not against

2719
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:22,800
Speaker 2: Green Bay. What's the risk reward? Okay, pump the ball,

2720
02:31:22,879 --> 02:31:25,520
Speaker 2: play defense too every once in a while. So this

2721
02:31:25,760 --> 02:31:30,320
Speaker 2: last week, Dan Campbell and his aggressiveness, his faith, and

2722
02:31:30,400 --> 02:31:32,720
Speaker 2: his players, these are all things that have made the

2723
02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:37,879
Speaker 2: Lions relevant. But when the Lions trailed with about twelve

2724
02:31:37,879 --> 02:31:40,280
Speaker 2: minutes to go in two scores or a ten point game,

2725
02:31:42,920 --> 02:31:46,920
Speaker 2: because Buffalo is moving the ball, will they comeback? Maybe?

2726
02:31:47,080 --> 02:31:50,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't likely? Okay, I don't think dollar bill of billions

2727
02:31:50,920 --> 02:31:52,880
Speaker 2: would have said I'm not uncertain. He would have said

2728
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm uncertain. So still, in light of all that, Dan

2729
02:31:58,959 --> 02:32:01,760
Speaker 2: Campbell went for this onside kick at Temple twelve minutes

2730
02:32:01,800 --> 02:32:06,920
Speaker 2: to go, and you saw what happened. The Buffalo player

2731
02:32:07,000 --> 02:32:10,360
Speaker 2: returned it to like the three yard line. Even Dan Campbell,

2732
02:32:11,120 --> 02:32:15,320
Speaker 2: in hindsight, seemed to regret that decision. When he was

2733
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:19,280
Speaker 2: asked about it afterward, he said, quote, obviously now sitting

2734
02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:21,960
Speaker 2: here after them taking it down to the three yard line, Yeah,

2735
02:32:22,040 --> 02:32:23,520
Speaker 2: I wish I wouldn't have done that, but it is

2736
02:32:23,560 --> 02:32:26,720
Speaker 2: what it is. Okay, you can't be that dismissive. This

2737
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 2: is serious business. And all I'm saying is it's your

2738
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:34,920
Speaker 2: ball club, it's your legacy, it's your victory to capture.

2739
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:40,640
Speaker 2: But at the same time, when you realize, just in

2740
02:32:40,760 --> 02:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the general scheme that the recovery rate for onside kicks

2741
02:32:47,120 --> 02:32:50,120
Speaker 2: is you know, ninety six percent of the time it

2742
02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:53,880
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, and you got twelve minutes left in the game,

2743
02:32:55,520 --> 02:32:59,400
Speaker 2: I just at some point this isn't cute anymore, all right,

2744
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:05,000
Speaker 2: So look, just an opinion, let's leave it there. I'm

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Speaker 2: paid to have opinions. And again, I think when Nan

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Speaker 2: Cambo makes these decisions, it should not be a one

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02:33:10,480 --> 02:33:12,480
Speaker 2: size fits all every time just because we're going to

2748
02:33:12,520 --> 02:33:16,000
Speaker 2: beat our chests because we can. The good news is

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02:33:16,160 --> 02:33:21,320
Speaker 2: we have enough football now to stretch us. It's what

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02:33:21,480 --> 02:33:24,880
Speaker 2: you might call the NFL's Twelve Days of Christmas. Right

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02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:27,720
Speaker 2: Thursday night, we had the Broncos and Chargers face off,

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02:33:28,720 --> 02:33:34,960
Speaker 2: very good game, most notably highlighted by the obscure rule

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02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:37,560
Speaker 2: that Jim Harbaugh take advantage of that had been successfully

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02:33:37,640 --> 02:33:40,959
Speaker 2: done since nineteen seventy six on the free kick. Classic

2755
02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:46,000
Speaker 2: carball stuff, just classic classic carrball stuff. Then on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: we had the doubleheader between the Texas and Chiefs, and

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02:33:49,160 --> 02:33:53,760
Speaker 2: they Stevens and Ravens again playoff implication type games. And

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02:33:53,879 --> 02:33:58,600
Speaker 2: here we go, right these primetime games, the Twelve Days

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02:33:58,640 --> 02:34:02,440
Speaker 2: of Christmas. Get the Bucks and Cowboys Sunday night, that

2760
02:34:02,680 --> 02:34:08,840
Speaker 2: in itself alone will have storylines. Christmas Day NFL will

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02:34:08,879 --> 02:34:12,400
Speaker 2: be played on Wednesday. You got the chief Steelers. The

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02:34:12,520 --> 02:34:16,720
Speaker 2: Chiefs win that game. If the Chiefs win that game,

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02:34:16,879 --> 02:34:21,160
Speaker 2: they have now procured home field advantage throughout the entire

2764
02:34:21,160 --> 02:34:24,600
Speaker 2: playoffs except for the Super Bowl. Right, Steelers lose, it

2765
02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:27,080
Speaker 2: opens the door for the Ravens who play the Texans,

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02:34:27,480 --> 02:34:29,520
Speaker 2: because if the Ravens went out and the Steelers went out,

2767
02:34:29,560 --> 02:34:31,240
Speaker 2: guess what. The Steelers win the division Based on a

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02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:34,920
Speaker 2: common opponent record, so those games have implications. The day

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02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:37,200
Speaker 2: after Christmas, Boxing Day, we got a football of our

2770
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:40,880
Speaker 2: own Seahawks Bears on Thursday Night that'll be on Amazon.

2771
02:34:40,959 --> 02:34:42,840
Speaker 2: By the way, the Christmas Day games are on Netflix.

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02:34:44,720 --> 02:34:49,560
Speaker 2: December twenty eighth, another Saturday extravagance, a triple header Chargers Patriots,

2773
02:34:50,080 --> 02:34:54,480
Speaker 2: Broncos Bengals and Cardinals Rams. Then a week from today,

2774
02:34:54,560 --> 02:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Sunday Night the Falcons Commandos on NBC. And then finally

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02:34:58,760 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 2: December thirtieth, Monday Night Football the Lions in forty nine ers.

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02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Now this involves twenty teams, interestingly enough, and these are

2777
02:35:08,200 --> 02:35:14,360
Speaker 2: primetime games. I'm slightly curious why neither the Bills nor

2778
02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:18,039
Speaker 2: the Eagles are futured at least once. Now Buffalo will

2779
02:35:18,080 --> 02:35:20,720
Speaker 2: be on the four to twenty five National Eastern Time

2780
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Window game on Sunday in Philadelphia. The same situation on

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02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:27,440
Speaker 2: December twenty ninth. But you thought you would think that

2782
02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:31,640
Speaker 2: you might take advantage of, you know, it's supposed to

2783
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:35,080
Speaker 2: maybe Seahawks Bear. What does it matter the NFL, they

2784
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:37,640
Speaker 2: can do no wrong, right, It's part of the scheduling

2785
02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:40,840
Speaker 2: outity though the Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, and Texans they have

2786
02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:45,080
Speaker 2: all three games in eleven days, and you know, Patrick

2787
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:47,680
Speaker 2: Mahomes may be hurt, as they said, but it didn't

2788
02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:52,560
Speaker 2: occur to me. By the way. Wednesday, I'm told a

2789
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:56,480
Speaker 2: little spoiler that the uniform wearing patch is going to

2790
02:35:56,520 --> 02:36:00,280
Speaker 2: be distinctive for Christmas Day. So we will see, all right,

2791
02:36:00,320 --> 02:36:03,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna do for the Bernie Frattle Show tonight again.

2792
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:06,760
Speaker 2: Arnie Spaniard myself will be on the airwaves Wednesday night,

2793
02:36:06,920 --> 02:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Christmas Night, seven pm Pacific, ten pm Eastern. Plenty of

2794
02:36:10,120 --> 02:36:12,400
Speaker 2: hijinks for the whole family. You don't want to miss that.

2795
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:15,480
Speaker 2: In the meantime, keep it locked right here, up next,

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02:36:15,560 --> 02:36:17,400
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Yes it is, in

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Speaker 2: fact the great Andy Furman. Keep it locked Fox Sports Radio.