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Speaker 3: The messiest, most fun touchdown from the messiest, most fun team.

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Speaker 3: That was Trevor Lawrence winning in the way that only

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Speaker 3: to twenty eight. Great call there by Frank Frangie and

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Speaker 3: with me on this Monday night. We are welcoming in

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Speaker 3: We talked last week. We devoted an entire segment to

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Speaker 3: A statement win if I ever saw one, by what

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Speaker 3: these Jaguars are all about.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Look, they came for a fight, they stayed in the

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Speaker 4: and I tweeted this, and I think this is about

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Speaker 4: the last thing that you want, and it's just chaos,

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Speaker 4: and yet somehow it produced a victory. The Jaguars might

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Speaker 4: they may not be the most organized team, the most

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Speaker 1: They really are. And you know what, They're gonna stay

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Speaker 3: to nominate that throw to Brian Thomas Junior on third

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Speaker 3: let's put that on the board. And I think Nick

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Speaker 3: that final drive. And really, this game overall helps to

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Speaker 3: yet just before that, he had that dime to Brian

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's who Trevor Lawrence is. But right now

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Speaker 3: I think he's got more support around him than he's ever.

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Speaker 4: Kansas City did to counter them. I mean, they fought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep talking Lawrence because I do want to go

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Speaker 3: It was a wild Ultimately, the Chiefs moved the ball

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Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd had an interception that reminded me so much

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Speaker 1: Let's listen, all right, plus kills. You swatted over there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, last week had a couple of interceptions

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Speaker 1: Which tied it up. I was glad shook that that

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Speaker 3: For a second, it looked like the game was ending

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Speaker 1: And even though there are good.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Trevor fumble earlier in the game, and

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Speaker 3: So that was early in the game, early second quarter,

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Speaker 3: as well, and have a really good defense going into

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Speaker 3: their bye week.

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Speaker 1: The AFC South is alive and I love it. Now.

441
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Speaker 3: Not everything is perfect in this game, like both teams.

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: I think we're struggling to rush the passer, and no

443
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker for Jacksonville helps to explain why both teams

444
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: were blitzing quite a bit but not really getting a

445
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: ton of pressure, and so I think that's a concern

446
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: for both teams. Brenton Strange, who's having a great season

447
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: as a tight end for the Jaguars, really been their

448
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 3: number two receiver, sometimes their number one receiver, even ahead

449
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: of Brian Thomas Junior in terms of consistency. He left

450
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Speaker 3: with a hip injury and was not able to return,

451
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Speaker 3: So that is a concern at least. The last thing

452
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Speaker 3: I want to get in before we leave this game,

453
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: and if you have anything else, Shook, feel free to

454
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: throw it in, is just we saw Travis Hunter's best

455
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Speaker 3: game of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just baby steps.

457
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Speaker 3: There was that great catch he made down the field

458
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Speaker 3: where he showed his athleticism. He had a nice play

459
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Speaker 3: after the catch on a short pass where he just

460
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Speaker 3: made a couple of defenders look silly, and he had

461
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Speaker 3: a number of nice plays in coverage and he was

462
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Speaker 3: on the field quite a bit. I believe over thirty

463
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Speaker 3: five snaps on offense, and last I checked he was

464
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Speaker 3: around thirty on defense, three times he was targeted, only

465
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Speaker 3: gave up one short catch, and so progress. I think

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Speaker 3: here for the Travis Hunter believers like myself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the last thing that I wanted to

468
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Speaker 4: talk about too. And I think any time that you

469
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Speaker 4: end up being the second overall pick, you come in

470
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Speaker 4: with an unfair amount of pressure and expectation, especially a

471
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Speaker 4: guy like Travis Hunter who was a highlight machine at Colorado.

472
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Speaker 4: But what he's being asked to do has not been

473
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Speaker 4: asked of anybody before, which is be an impact player

474
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Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. Now, he has an

475
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Speaker 4: early pass breakup on a third down throw to Travis

476
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Speaker 4: Kelce that was very much designed to get Kelsey open

477
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Speaker 4: with a little bit of a crease, kind of a

478
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Speaker 4: rub route, and he's in there. He gets away with

479
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: being a little grabby there. That's an incompletion because he

480
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 4: held down Travis Kelsey's arm. But he's there to make

481
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: the play. He's there to make a difference on offense.

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Speaker 4: That one catch that you described, the athletic catch, I

483
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Speaker 4: think it's between two defenders made me say out loud,

484
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Speaker 4: Oh nice, there's Travis Hunter. There's the guy that I

485
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Speaker 4: expected to make a difference on this football team. And

486
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Speaker 4: if you see the play, if you're watching on YouTube,

487
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: you can see Trevor Lawrence is playing out of structure

488
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Speaker 4: and in chaos, and Hunter essentially bails him out, which,

489
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Speaker 4: by the way, he did a lot with Shador Sanders

490
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Speaker 4: at Colorado as well. I mean, look at him. He's

491
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Speaker 4: leaping up over Shamari Connor, Brian Cook's trying to come

492
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Speaker 4: in and up end him. He grabs the ball, he

493
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Speaker 4: gets flipped almost all the way over and hangs on

494
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Speaker 4: to it for a huge game. That is the type

495
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Speaker 4: of play this kid is capable of making. And I

496
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Speaker 4: wonder as we go deeper into the season, they're not

497
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Speaker 4: super thin at receiver like Deanmi Brown's going to play

498
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Speaker 4: a part. Parker Washington somehow finds a way to make

499
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Speaker 4: plays even though he's a small receiver. He cutches a

500
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Speaker 4: touchdown pass tonight. They have options, but if they're really

501
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Speaker 4: going to maximize their potential, Travis Hunter has to be

502
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Speaker 4: a key part of it in the passing game, which

503
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 4: will only be more beneficial to Trevor Lawrence and maybe

504
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Speaker 4: get him more on track and less chaotics. So I'm

505
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Speaker 4: really looking forward to see where he goes, and I

506
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: think tonight was a great first step toward that you know,

507
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Speaker 4: potential outcome.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely agree, and I think it's only going to

509
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: get better as he gets a little more more confident.

510
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Speaker 3: And you saw him playing with the joy tonight. He like,

511
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 3: I think he fires that team up with any play

512
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Speaker 3: that he made, huge smile like going nuts, ends up.

513
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Speaker 3: I believe with thirty five snaps on offense and twenty

514
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Speaker 3: four on your twenty five snaps in the end on defense,

515
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Speaker 3: So a clean sixty snaps.

516
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Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot, but it's nothing crazy.

517
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Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Carter is out there playing sixty snaps

518
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle, you know the other day like that.

519
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 3: Sixty snaps is a normal NFL workload. It's just, yeah,

520
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: you have to figure out how to play multiple positions.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's great.

522
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, the Jags who led the NFL in turnovers,

523
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Speaker 3: takeaways forced coming into the day, even before playing this

524
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: week five game, get that big pick six. Don't forget

525
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: about Devin Lloyd. This has been a big play defense

526
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: and they are four and one. I love it when

527
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: a good plan comes together. Stamping the Jaguars as the

528
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Speaker 3: messy fun team of NFL Daily, the team we just

529
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Speaker 3: are enjoying watching this journey last week and then they

530
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Speaker 3: come through.

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Speaker 1: Like this, good Anya Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to some news quickly before we

533
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Speaker 3: get out of here on this Monday night, because I

534
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 3: got to go to sleep, shooky. I was out an

535
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Speaker 3: eleven and a half hour flight today off two hours

536
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Speaker 3: of sleep, and.

537
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I feel good. I feel great.

538
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm wearing my Dodger's hat if you're watching

539
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: on YouTube, like it's a great sports day, and I'm

540
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: very glad to be home. But we'll hit a couple

541
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Speaker 3: little news items, including a couple different quarterback situations. Let's

542
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: just combine them together. John Harbaugh Zach Taylor both said

543
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Speaker 3: on Monday that they're considering everything at quarterback. They're essentially

544
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Speaker 3: considering a change. In the past, I've said that means

545
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: the change is coming. For Harbaugh was a little less

546
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Speaker 3: specific about quarterback. It was more about everything. They do

547
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Speaker 3: have Tyler Huntley on their roster and could start him

548
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Speaker 3: in Week five against the Rams for Cooper Rush potentially,

549
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Speaker 3: and then Zach Taylor. This one caught my eye a

550
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: little more wasn't totally committing to Jake Browning as the quarterback.

551
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Speaker 3: Brett Rippen is the other active quarterback on the roster,

552
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: so you would assume that would be the choice, although

553
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: they also have Mike White and Sean Clifford on their

554
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Speaker 3: practice squad.

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Speaker 1: Man.

556
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Speaker 3: Who would have thought the AFC South would be better

557
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: than the AFC North this season?

558
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: But I think I think we can. We can call it.

559
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there'll be a comeback, but they're pretty

560
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: far ahead right now. The NFC South.

561
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Speaker 4: No, No, I feel pretty confident saying that the AFC

562
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: South is better than the North because the South has

563
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: all their quarterbacks, they've played better football overall. But the

564
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: Cincinnati situation is dire, like they start to and oh,

565
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: which is great, hooray, we started to know. You lost

566
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. You've lost three straight since then, and you've

567
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: looked completely non competitive in every single game that you've

568
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: played since you lost Joe Burrow. Like like even the

569
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: Lions game. This final score looks respectable, but a lot

570
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 4: of those points were scored when they were already trailing

571
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: twenty eight to three, and the Lions kept pouring it

572
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: on like this is this has been an abysmal offense

573
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Speaker 4: over the last three weeks. Jake Browning, I understand, like

574
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: he's dealing with a lot. He's got an offensive line

575
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Speaker 4: that's leaky. They have no running game. They just throw

576
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Speaker 4: it up down the sideline fifty to fifty to Jami

577
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 4: Chason T. Higgins and hope for the best. And yes,

578
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Speaker 4: he's made some poor decisions. He's thrown a lot of

579
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Speaker 4: passes into traffic. He's produced some some turno, But I

580
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: don't see a better option like Brett Rippen's gonna help

581
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 4: Mike White. Mike White, the same Mike White who once

582
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: inspired Jets fans for I don't know, a few weeks

583
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 4: before you know, he fell back to earth, Like there's

584
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: no option here. And this is life in the NFL.

585
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: If you lose a franchise quarterback and you've spent most

586
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: of your money at the positions that take advantage of

587
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 4: that franchise quarterback, you end up in a dark place.

588
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Speaker 1: Baltimore.

589
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Speaker 4: Like when they signed Cooper Rush, I was like, that

590
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense. He doesn't fit their offense. Snoop

591
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: Hotly has always worked there because he kind of fits

592
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 4: what they like to do offensively, even as they've evolved

593
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 4: and maybe you thought Todd Monkin could make it work. Yes,

594
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Speaker 4: I think that's a no brainer for me. After three

595
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Speaker 4: picks and a blowout loss, I would absolutely go back

596
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: to Snooper.

597
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Speaker 3: Okay, right, So I watched that game on my flight home.

598
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: Shout out to de Zone. I know it's a little

599
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: divisive over in the UK. That's their version of game Pass.

600
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: I gotta say. I mean, I don't know if I'm

601
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: going to get in trouble. It's better. It's better than

602
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: our domestic version. Download the games first of all, that

603
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: that's the number one thing. But you can have the

604
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: multi screens while you're watching with like the four screens

605
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: that the quality was really good. I was using it

606
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, so I'm a fan of

607
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: the product. But it helped me watch what I thought

608
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: was an underrated Cooper Rush before. This is the tiniest

609
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: molehill of a take I'll ever say. They had the

610
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: ball twice in the score was already seventeen to three.

611
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: He really didn't make that many mistakes. I know he

612
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: ended up with three interceptions they weren't really on him,

613
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: and a couple of them just like late and unimportant.

614
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: He was just there like no one like Lamar Jackson

615
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: was not winning that game. It obviously would have been

616
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: more competitive, but their defense being the biggest tire fire

617
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: in the entire NFL on either side of the ball

618
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 3: is the is the story because it was ridiculous how

619
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: they just got absolutely hammered on the defensive side of

620
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: the ball. And their running game absolutely stinks too, and

621
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Speaker 3: their offensive lines not particularly good either. So I'm willing

622
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: to give Cooper Rush like a little bit of a

623
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Speaker 3: pass here, Jake Browning, I'm not going to give a

624
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Speaker 3: pass too, So that that I kind of think, based

625
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: on Zach Taylor's comments, if I had the guess that

626
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: we're getting Brett Rippon, which is weird, can they doesn't

627
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: seem like a good idea, doesn't seem like.

628
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: A good yeah, But when you have no other options left,

629
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: anything's a good idea because what else are you gonna do?

630
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Speaker 1: I mean, Jake was slanging it back in three, He

631
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: was slanging it a couple of years ago.

632
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Speaker 3: By the fourth quarter of that game, he was he

633
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: was helping out Jamar Chase and t Higgins's fantasy owners.

634
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: Chase also made a really nice play in his touchdown graph.

635
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: He did, but that was a good throw too. I

636
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: mean one thing about Jake Brown, He'll give you a chance.

637
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: That the Bengals have a very difficult game against the

638
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: Packers this week, so they're probably falling to two and four.

639
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: And it's crazy to think that the Ravens, it doesn't

640
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: matter who starts a quarterback.

641
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: They just need to get to.

642
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: Their buy uh and it'll probably be one in five

643
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: and hope that Lamar Jackson can save them on the

644
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: their side. I noticed a report I'm gonna throw this

645
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: one by you from the Philly Voice that AJ Brown

646
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: and Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts had a private conversation

647
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: the three of them today all had a really good

648
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: talk that lasted hours where they where they put everything

649
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: on the table and they helped to straighten out whatever

650
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: is going on there. Does that count as a player's

651
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: only meeting if it's only three players.

652
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: It feels like a Matthew Stafford Cooper cup breakfast like

653
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: pancakes and coffee type of meeting. Did they have a

654
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: copy of that self help book that AJ Brown was

655
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Speaker 4: leaning on? Like were they quoting it during the meeting?

656
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Speaker 4: That's what I want to know. Look, I'm tired of

657
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: this repetitive narrative when they just don't find success offensively,

658
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: like Saquon has not gotten going this year. They had

659
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 4: to resort to the pass. It helped them come back

660
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: and beat the Rams. Oh everything's fixed. Oh wait, no,

661
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: it's not. You want another game. AJ Brown's mad because

662
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: he only caught two of his like nine targets. It's

663
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: every week with this team, Like, I understand you finally

664
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Speaker 4: lost the game, but my god, you're still one of

665
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: the best teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But something that's going on some you know, when Brandon

667
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: Graham let the cat out of the bag late last

668
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: season that there was something going on in the personal

669
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Speaker 3: relationship between A. J. Brown and Jalen Hurts, and it's

670
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: been backed up and confirmed and kind of talked about

671
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Speaker 3: by other people that yeah, you know, they used to

672
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Speaker 3: be really close and sometimes life happens and things are

673
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Speaker 3: like there's there is something strange there.

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Speaker 1: There's been kind of hints maybe.

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Speaker 3: Like the offense is really built around Jalen Hurts his strengths,

676
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Speaker 3: and maybe those strengths don't you know, match up exactly

677
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Speaker 3: with what A J.

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Speaker 1: Brown wants to do. Who really knows what are you

679
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Speaker 1: gonna do?

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna pull? John Robinson and trade aj

681
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: Brown and you know, get crucified because of.

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Speaker 1: It, right they.

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Speaker 3: I think it's productive that they're trying to, you know,

684
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Speaker 3: get it squared away. It's just funny to me. And

685
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Speaker 3: that was from Jimmy Kempsky, our old friend at the

686
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: Philly Voice, that they're talking for three hours.

687
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Speaker 1: I just love this team.

688
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Speaker 3: Who had a few listeners to the PHL Y Show,

689
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Speaker 3: which I was listening to on my way out of

690
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: the airport today, asking whether there was any chance Siriani

691
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: could be fired like of this season, go Sideway. They

692
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: just lost their first game in like a calendar year

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Speaker 3: that Jalen Hurts actually started and finished.

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Speaker 1: Look, I love Philly.

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Speaker 4: When I was an Internet films way back in the

696
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: day and lived in South Jersey, I developed a love

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00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: for the city and that fan base is passionate. But

698
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: for the love of guy God, guys, get a hobby.

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Speaker 4: You lost one game. Let it play out.

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Speaker 3: Let's see how they respond to it. I think they'll respond.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: It is now time for Who Delivered presented by Uber Eats,

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Speaker 3: and you know who delivered one of the most improbable

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Speaker 3: wins I've ever seen in my life on Sunday. It

705
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: was the Tennessee Titans. And you know who delivered an

706
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Speaker 3: apology on Monday, not just to the fans but to

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Speaker 3: his players. It was Jonathan Gannon, their head coach.

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Speaker 5: Let's listen, Yeah, I actually I woke up this morning

709
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 5: and didn't feel great about it, honestly, and so in

710
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: the team meeting, I addressed it. I apologize to Omar,

711
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: apologize to the team, and I just told him I

712
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Speaker 5: kind of let the moment of what happened get the

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Speaker 5: better of me there, obviously, Like I try to be

714
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Speaker 5: emotionally stable and calm because my job is to solve

715
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Speaker 5: problems when during a game and kind of lead the

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Speaker 5: charge on that. So it's not really who I am

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Speaker 5: who I want to be, And I told the guys

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Speaker 5: that today.

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Speaker 3: On one hand, appreciate the accountability there by Jonathan Gannon.

720
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Speaker 3: He is referring to an interaction that we didn't know

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Speaker 3: about until it was posted on social media from a

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00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: different camera angle shook where he got in Amario de

723
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Speaker 3: Mercado's face after dropping the ball, you know, before scoring

724
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Speaker 3: that touchdown, and then on his way out like kind

725
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Speaker 3: of looked like he pushed him and got a little physical.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is a product. First off, I

727
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: do want to tip my captain for delivering a sincere

728
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Speaker 4: apology that I felt that was very honest in what

729
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: he said there. The accountability is great, right, But I

730
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Speaker 4: think this is the product of a coach who entered

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Speaker 4: year three with feeling some pressure, feeling like you have

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Speaker 4: to deliver this year. And they get up to the

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Speaker 4: two and oh start, they lose a tough one in

734
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Speaker 4: San Francisco, totally fine. You lose again the following week

735
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Speaker 4: to Seattle, another close one but wasn't really as close

736
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Speaker 4: to the final score edicated. I mean, they got there.

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Speaker 4: This one is inexcusable. This one is an absolute dark

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Speaker 4: stain on his resume as a head coach because of

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Speaker 4: the collapse in the way that it happened. And unfortunately

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Speaker 4: the collapse started with the mar de Mercado dropping the

741
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Speaker 4: football right before the goal line, like he scored such

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Speaker 4: on there. They got twenty to six.

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Speaker 1: That games over.

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Speaker 4: They're not Tennessee is not coming back. They lacked the

745
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 4: firepower to come back. He left the door open by

746
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: making that mental mistake, and in the heat of the moment,

747
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: Gannon lost his composure. I think it's a simple product

748
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Speaker 4: of the pressure and the heat of the moment and

749
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Speaker 4: just being letting your emotions get the best of you.

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Speaker 4: So it's good that he took some accountability for it.

751
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 4: But my god, they need to win in the worst

752
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: way right now, and they're playing the Colts and Packers next,

753
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Speaker 4: and I think he understands it's not gonna get any easier.

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00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: This is one they had to have.

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Speaker 1: I wish I remember who it was.

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Speaker 3: On Twitter, an ex player that it just pointed out,

757
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: like these are the kind of moments that can lose

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00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: locker room a little bit. You know, you see a

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00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: coach act like that and disrespect your player. Like players

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 3: will take any sort of tough coaching if they feel

761
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: like it's fair and it's trying to help them. But

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Speaker 3: putting that your hands on someone on the way out,

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna rub people the wrong way. I

764
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Speaker 3: think he realized that maybe someone had to tell him

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00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: that or not, but he realized, like that's a line

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Speaker 3: that you don't want to cross and is problematic for

767
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Speaker 3: a Gannon, so that he's really facing the toughest time

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Speaker 3: for him as an NFL head coach so far. That

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Speaker 3: was Who Delivered, presented by Uber Eats when Football makes

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Speaker 3: wrapping up the show here on a great Monday night

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Speaker 3: for the messiest fun team in the NFL, the Jacksonville Jaggers.

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Speaker 3: Just with a few other injury notes, just wanted to

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00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: let everyone know. Starting guard for the Broncos, Ben Powers,

776
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: who's been part of their best offensive line, maybe the

777
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: best offensive line in the league, going to injured reserve.

778
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: Colts kick Spencer Schrader is out for the season. They

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Speaker 3: lost him during that win over the Raiders on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: so they're gonna have to figure out their kicker situation.

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Speaker 3: Terry on Arnold, this is a big one. The starting

782
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Speaker 3: cornerback for the Lions is going to be out quote

783
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: a while. And if you remember something we didn't talk

784
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Speaker 3: about on the show, but last week they put DJ Reid,

785
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: who's really their number one corner on injured reserve, So

786
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Speaker 3: they're going to be without their top two corners for

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Speaker 3: a while. That's bad news for a team. That's trying

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Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl. And by the way, as

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes and hot Chiefs defense next week, bad news

790
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Speaker 3: for them. And then we'll wrap with Amaron Hampton Shook

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Speaker 3: going to injured reserve. Not sure if you got eyes

792
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: on the Chargers game yet. I know you crank through

793
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: all the games on Monday for your quarterback Index, But

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Speaker 3: tell me what you saw out of them and what

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Speaker 3: you think, you know the challenges they're going to face

796
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Speaker 3: without Amari and Hampton least the.

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Speaker 1: Next four weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got two left. It's been a banner day.

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Speaker 4: So I'm watching this game back and there's a period,

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Speaker 4: I think in the third or fourth quarter where Hassan

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00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 4: Haskins is suddenly getting run and it's like a pretty

802
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: pivotal moment where the Chargers are trying to generate something offensively.

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Speaker 4: They hadn't done anything since taking that early lead, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, why are they leading on Haskins here? Why

805
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: are they not going to Hampton? Oh, it's because he's hurt.

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Speaker 4: It's a major downgrade. They already lost Najie Harris to

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Speaker 4: the achilles injury for the year. You knew that was bad,

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00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: but you're like, we have Hampton, they'll be okay. Well

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Speaker 4: without both of them. I am now officially concerned for

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Speaker 4: their running game. They have a Hassan Haskins and they

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Speaker 4: have Commani Vadell left in that backfield. And you can

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Speaker 4: be a huge fan of Idell as much as you want,

813
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Speaker 4: but those two are not They're not Hampton, They're not Harris.

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Speaker 4: It's just gonna lead to a more unbalanced attack. It's

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Speaker 4: going to take me back to the Chargers of a

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00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 4: couple of years ago when they lost you know, a

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Speaker 4: bunch of their offensive linemen and Herbert got hurt because

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Speaker 4: he was under constant dress. He was kind of under

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Speaker 4: constant dress in this game. And that's against the Commanders

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Speaker 4: team with a defense that hasn't necessarily been all that

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Speaker 4: great this season, and they got shut down. And so

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Speaker 4: it does make me very concerned for their outlook offensively

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Speaker 4: if they can't balance out this offense. Herbert's great, and

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Speaker 4: I think that he'll still try his best to lead

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Speaker 4: them to victories and produce you know, yards and points

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Speaker 4: and everything else. But it just it does concern me

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Speaker 4: that they're going to be a very past heavy team

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Speaker 4: now and it's gonna hold them back a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of our friends in the comments, John Byrne, says

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Speaker 3: that he didn't expect the Chargers to have to go

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Speaker 3: to val Vadalsa soon.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a sprit ah pretty good, hey

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Speaker 1: man joke, but I wouldn't get it, I know, ending

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Speaker 1: with ending with a dad joke. Here late on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: We're about one minute away actually from Tuesday morning for you, Shookie,

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Speaker 3: and yes it's about five am for me where my

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00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: body clock is. And so really appreciate everyone who told

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Speaker 3: us they enjoyed the shows while I was overseas, and

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00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: Ollie Connolly wanted to give a special thanks and tell

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Speaker 3: everyone to check out his read optional substack. I didn't

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Speaker 3: mention that on the show last night, and both him

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00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: and Will Gavin we heard from people really enjoyed their analysis.

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Speaker 3: So we we love that people can be flexible, you know,

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Speaker 3: they they love the favorites. In fact, I was we

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00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: were getting I was getting a drink with with Oli

847
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Speaker 3: one night and he said, I want to meet this

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Speaker 3: Nick Schuk. I want to give that man a hug.

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Speaker 5: They do.

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Speaker 1: He was just like a big shook fan. So the

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Speaker 1: love is flowing over international waters shooky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love to get on a plane

853
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: and get out there. I don't know if family, I

854
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: know that's next.

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Speaker 1: Year, next year, that is my goal.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sending coded messages to our iHeart family. I

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00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: did want to thank iHeart by the way too. Just

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00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: instrumental in everything we do and the trip we had

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00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: and really important to all of us. All Right, we

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Speaker 3: will be back on Tuesday. It is a massive show.

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Speaker 3: We have been waiting all season long. Yes, it is

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Speaker 3: the return of Quarterback Island. On Tuesday, Colleen Wolf, Steve Weisch,

863
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: myself and Jordan Rodrigue will decide what twelve quarterbacks are

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Speaker 3: going to stay on the island, who's getting booted off.

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Speaker 1: And maybe we have room for a couple of new quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: I got some ideas, Shookie. We will see you all

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday.