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Speaker 1: we start with the Sunday Nike. It was such a dud.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my god, you all told me JJ McCarthy, all,

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, he's gonna be better because he didn't play

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Speaker 1: as a rookie. He got hurt, and he went to

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Speaker 1: all the meetings and he learned everything, and oh man,

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Speaker 1: he's so good. The guy blows Okay, two games in

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Speaker 1: McCarthy sucks and it's bad television. How did that game

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Speaker 1: end up in Sunday night football? How does Minnesota and Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: What a clunker that was? In my opinion, that sucked.

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Speaker 1: So in an active protest against this malfeasans by the

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Speaker 1: NFL that's supposed to put the top teams in the

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Speaker 1: Sunday night window, we're gonna skip over that game till

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Speaker 1: later we've got four hours and instead a rematch the

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Speaker 1: game of the weekend, which also wasn't all that great,

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Speaker 1: but it was at Arrowhead Stadium in Cannes City, and

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Speaker 1: so that is where we will start and That is

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Speaker 1: our lead here. As the Chiefs, who have been consistently

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Speaker 1: dominant even when they're bad, they get to the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game. They're at the point now where mathematically it's

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Speaker 1: not looking very good. Two weeks into the NFL season,

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Speaker 1: it's not looking very good. Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are zero and two. They are all and two, which

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Speaker 1: I'm told is not good. I didn't play in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I know Ryan Clark probably doesn't want me to give

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's not good. So oh and two

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Speaker 1: after losing the much anticipated rematch there on America's Game

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Speaker 1: of the Week, and if you saw this game or not,

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Speaker 1: in the late television window. And if you didn't see it,

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Speaker 1: well listen. We know the better stories in the losing

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Speaker 1: locker room. So that is where we're going to focus here.

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Speaker 1: While it's not the the outcome that is shocking. I

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Speaker 1: the Eagles on that. If you watch the YouTube show,

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Speaker 1: things we got right this weekend, So it's not shocking

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs loss. This is only a second time Mahomes

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Speaker 1: has been an underdog at home, and there's a reason

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Speaker 1: Right now, they're oh and two. Mahomes was asked about this.

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Speaker 1: He said, well, it's not the start we wanted. Mahomes said,

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Speaker 1: the Giants next week, all right, close quote on that.

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Speaker 1: So let us discuss the question. Can you please decode

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Speaker 1: the message within the message from Patrick Mahomes as the

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Speaker 1: got Tutoring, Lightning and Marvel Comics, and we will combine

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Speaker 1: We're going to make those so ah, there's not too

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Speaker 1: He here's what Mahomes is really saying. Keep it simple, stell,

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Speaker 1: but is what he's saying. He's saying that, hey, we've

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Speaker 1: of a layup line. That is a pitch and putt

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Speaker 1: is what that is. That is homecoming opponent time when

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Speaker 1: pinata game. You want that game. That is a well

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Speaker 1: is essentially admitting here that, hey, the Chiefs are not

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly what the Kansas City Chiefs need right now.

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Speaker 1: And let's not kid ourselves here. This Chiefs offense is lacking.

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Speaker 1: Eliza Well, they're good. Injuries. Okay, As far as Mahomes saying,

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Speaker 1: it going. Well. Andy Reid chimed in on this big riot,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, and do you think Andy Reid is blaming Mahomes?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's blaming Travis Kelcey, or do you

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Speaker 3: I'll take four responsibilities for the game.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: I probably said too aggressive on that, and that's my responsibility.

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Speaker 3: But my guys played their tail off and played hard

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Speaker 3: and aggressive football, and and they stuck together throughout the game,

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Speaker 1: So you're never ever there's a couple of cardinal rules

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Speaker 1: That is a capital offense. Right, That gets you fired.

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Speaker 1: So even when your team is terrible, you have to

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Speaker 1: It's a paint drying type situation here. But there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of playmakers that are more like traffic cones when

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. You gotta keep throwing his rotting carcass out

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Speaker 1: on the field in every game. But you look around.

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Speaker 1: this that Patrick Mahomes himself has not been good enough

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Speaker 1: They do. The Eagles are a measuring stick game. Every man,

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Speaker 1: is the way it was? Right? The game was again,

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Speaker 1: it was not They had a chance. They did have

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Speaker 1: nothing to see here. We've got the Giants, and that's

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Speaker 1: So you gotta beat the Giants. You don't beat the

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Speaker 1: zero four, then's doomsday prophecies. So you gotta beat the

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to talk about, the tush push.

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Speaker 1: caboose being pushed. Push the caboose, push the caboose, push

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Speaker 1: say he'll be out for three months, at least three months,

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Speaker 1: the very minimum three months. So take the over on that. Wow.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let us discuss if you're unfamiliar with this,

425
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: the story here. The left toe of Joe Burrow mangled

426
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: during a sack by the Jacksonville football team. Happened in

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Speaker 1: the second quarter. Bengals did win the game thirty one

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, killing one of my bets by coming back

429
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: getting a late touchdown. Not that I'm bitter about that.

430
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: They were three and a half point favorites. They won

431
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: by four. Not that that stings, but that's aside the

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00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: point we're talking about here. So the story is Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow is injured and say he's gonna be out three

434
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: months if surgery is deemed necessary. Again, there are difference

435
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: of reporting overnight. Some say it's gonna happen, others say

436
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: not so much, but he is the franchise player. But

437
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: if it's deemed necessary, he's expected to be out again

438
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: upprossimately three months, which is mid December, mid December, and

439
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 1: that's it. Burrow was seen in a walking boot and

440
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: he was on crutches after the game, so generally not

441
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: a good sign. Again, I didn't play in the NFL,

442
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: so I know Ryan Clark probably don't want to comment

443
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: on that, but generally he's not a good sign. When

444
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback is leaving on crutches in a booty.

445
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: That's not good. So does not look particularly the good

446
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: and that means that back up Jake Browning. Yep, that

447
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: guy will get the keys to the Bengals kingdom for

448
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: the time being.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 1: Everyone writing them off at this point, even though they

451
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: came back to beat Jacksonville, say well that's Browning's not

452
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: that good. So let us discuss question. Assuming worst case

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Speaker 1: scenario that Joe Burrow is dun Skis for the Bengals,

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00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: that he has dined on snap crackle pop thumbs up

455
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: or thumbs down, thumbs up, thumbs down. Can the Bengals

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00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: survive let's say, three months without Joe Burrow? All right?

457
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: So I've got ups, Skittles, bag and meatball Hero and

458
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: we'll combine all of these things together and we are

459
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna put the biscuit in the basket, is what we're

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Speaker 1: going to do. So my first thought on this is

461
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: when you say survive, they're not gonna die. But in

462
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: terms of actually being competitive and in a position to

463
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, I'm gonna go no, capital N no,

464
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: and no they will not. Joe Burrow, for better or worse,

465
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Speaker 1: is the he is the franchise. He got paid like

466
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: the franchise, and they just lost the steering wheel. So

467
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: if you're driving along and you lose your steering wheel,

468
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: it's a problem. If you're in the demolition derby and

469
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: you lose your steering wheel, it's a bigger problem. So

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Speaker 1: you're telling me that Jake Browning, who actually liked when

471
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: he played a few years ago, that Jake Browning is

472
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: going to keep this GILOPI on the road in Cincinnati

473
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: because you know, at some point the defense is going

474
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: to completely unravel, like it's gonna just be tattered in Cincinnati.

475
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to score more points and you're

476
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to throw the ball more and browning. The

477
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: more you throw, the more interceptions, et cetera, et cetera,

478
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: et cetera. And it's a self fulfilling prophecy. So this

479
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: is a UPS special in honor of our friend Tree

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00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: in Chicago. So UPS special. What can browning do for you? Now?

481
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: What brown can do for you? What can browning do

482
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: for you? Well, you can deliver interceptions. He'll throw some

483
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: touchdowns and that's it. Now you can sugarcoat this if

484
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: you want. I choose not to, But if you want

485
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: to sugarcoat it, you can. You can do that all

486
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: you want. It is man up, suck it up. All

487
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: that stuff the Shaw musco on blah blah blah blah

488
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

489
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. We've all heard the cliches. We've all

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00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: heard the cliches, But on this one, I just can't.

491
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I can't go there, cannot do it, cannot do it. Uh?

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00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: And Burrow, is it the receiver that makes the court.

493
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: The quarterback of a quarterback that makes the receiver? Said, Well,

494
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: the Bengals have two absolute studs in Jamar Chase and

495
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: t Higgins as playmakers on offense, and that is true.

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00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: And Browning is he gonna gonna use them to the

497
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: same degree that Burrow Diediver Burrows hadn't played great to

498
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: start the year here in the first couple of games

499
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: or so. It was terrible against Cleveland last week. So

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00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: what can Browning do for you? Well, what can he

501
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: do for you? Let's see, Well, he can put the

502
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: ball in the other team's hands, check that box. That's

503
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: what he can do. A lot, a lot of turnovers here,

504
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: hero ball one minute, he didn't win the game on

505
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Sunday with a couple of plays late disaster the next though.

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Speaker 1: You know, he reminds me of the coup on Browning,

507
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the backup for the bank. The comp is like Ryan Fitzpatrick.

508
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick the Amish rifle without the beard and lacking charisma.

509
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Like if you had Ryan Fitzpatrick, you had him shave

510
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: and he had no charisma. There you go. So you're

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00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: telling me that in the AFC, a conference that has

512
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, who's a great regular season player,

513
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: fraud in the playoffs, but great regular season player. Kansas

514
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: City was now zero and two. So you figure they

515
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: most likely if he continued down this path, there'ud be

516
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: a wild card team that's gonna be their path. Although

517
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: the AFC West will see what the Chargers do against

518
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders tonight, and then you've got the Josh Allen

519
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: scenario in Buffalos. There's a couple of heavyweights in the AFC,

520
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: and Jake Browning is gonna keep you right in the

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00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: middle of that. Now, every time a quarterback gets hurt,

522
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: somebody said, well, what about Nick Foles? What about Nick Foles? Okay,

523
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: so that's a once a generation thing, spoiler alert, that's

524
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 1: already happened this generation. It's already happened to Nick Foles thing.

525
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: This generation. It's not a different generation. It's the same generation.

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00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: It's already happened. So if you think that Browning can,

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00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying he can't play well for

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Speaker 1: a week or two, because usually it's like the dead

529
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: cat bounce, the dead cat bounce where the backup comes

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00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: in and plays well and there's some excitement there and

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Speaker 1: teams rally around the backup quarterback, and so I believe

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00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: that's a legitimate thing. But long term, if it's a

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00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: three month situation for a month. Okay, three months, forget

534
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: about it, right, three months. It's like you know, you know,

535
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: smoking smoking crack. If you think that's gonna be the case,

536
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: good luck on that. It's not gonna end well now,

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00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: page two. So, staying with the theme of the Bengals,

538
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: who did win and off to the two and zero

539
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: start here, The question is popular opinion among popular people,

540
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: the usual media apologists that can never ever ever blame

541
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It has to be somebody else's fault. Has

542
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: to be somebody else's fault. So they don't want to

543
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: blame Joe Burrow for being culpable in the situation he's

544
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. So instead they're like, they're blaming the Bengals

545
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: ownership for not protecting Joe Burrow. That that's the issue there.

546
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: And so they said, well, you should have gotten a

547
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: better offensive line. That's the main argument, is that the

548
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Bengals did not do a good enough job the front

549
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: office and getting an offensive line for Joe Burrow. So

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00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: does that work for you? Does that line of thinking

551
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: work for you? So I'll go first, and my reaction

552
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: is stop, stop, drop and roll. Please, No way that

553
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: is a cop out answer, is what that is, and

554
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: it makes me want to puke in my mouth when

555
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: I see that here. Joe Burrow himself lobbied. He had

556
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: a hissy fit. Burrow, he complained, I gotta get my receivers.

557
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I need my pass catchers. He said, okay, so fine.

558
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: They went out and they got his pass catchers. But

559
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: he lobbied the ownership group in Cincinnati to dump a

560
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: quarter of the dreaded salary cap on Jamar Chase and T. Higgins.

561
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Gotta have them both, gotta have them both. Most people said, well,

562
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: you get rid of T. Higgins, you keep Jamar Chase.

563
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: That's fine. No, no, no, Joe Burrow such a diva.

564
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: I need both these guys. I need them both. So

565
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: they kept them both. Okay, fine, So I'm as much

566
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: a salary cap truther as anyone. The math is the

567
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: math on that, though, and certainly with a tight watt

568
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: ownership group like in Cincinnati. So the Bengals were only

569
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna pay a few guys. Burrow wanted them to pay

570
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, and they wanted He wanted them to pay T. Higgins,

571
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: so they did. Okay, fine, So that's your luxury tax

572
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: in shoulder pads right there, so you paid the wide outs.

573
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: You got them the money, and so that's on Joe Burrow.

574
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: You're playing GM. Joe, you're playing Lebron. You're the GM.

575
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: You wanted these guys, okay, got him, You got So

576
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: let's not sugarcoat this. There's no need to put frosting

577
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: on it. It don't need to do that, you know.

578
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow also is I'll see it quietly, injury prone.

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00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Job Burrow is injury prone. I said that. If you

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: look at his medical chart, have you done this even

581
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: if you're blind? Listen to the audio Joe Burrow his

582
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: injury chart. It looks like a Skittles bag with all

583
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: the different colors right picked your body part. You get

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00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: the green skittle for the ACL, the red skittle for

585
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: the MCL, those who have been torn. You've got a

586
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: purple skittle for the finger dislocation. You can have the

587
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: blue skittle for the calf strand the yellow skittle for

588
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the sprain. And now you can add the turf toe.

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00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't even know what other colors are left, but

590
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: that's it. So he's the Rainbow Warrior, not a Hawaii

591
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: rainbow Warrior, but a rainbow Warrior of the training room.

592
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: That's who Joe Burrow is. That's it, and so congratulations.

593
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: He's the fragile rock Burrow. And when he plays usually

594
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty good, not always, but usually pretty good. And

595
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: he misses a lot of times. So you can keep

596
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: selling Joe cool, this, that and the other thing if

597
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: every season, every single season, he's on the operating table

598
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: in a gurney wearing one of those outfits in the

599
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: hospital with the wrist tag and the whole thing. By Halloween,

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00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: you are what your record says you are, we'd like

601
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: to say in these parts, and you are what your

602
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: record says you are. Joe Burrow's record is riddled. He's

603
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: got more MRIs than MVPs. How about that, more MRIs

604
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: than MVPs. That's what he's got. And by the way,

605
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: by the way, if your quarterback is a Ferrari, congratulations,

606
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: you might want to stop driving your Ferrari through potholes.

607
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: It generally does not go well. You call a tow truck,

608
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of tow trucks there. The rims

609
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: get bent, the frame gets busted, the hood starts smoking,

610
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much the career of Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.

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00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: All right, final point, dude, Jacksonville, we go the Jacksonville

612
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: side of things, the Jags on the losing side of

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00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: this game. I bring this up because rookie head coach

614
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: Liam Kohane in the middle of it, you talk about

615
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: being in the frying pan. He got into it during

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00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: the game with over raided Trevor Lawrence. I'm old enough

617
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: to remember that Trevor Lawrence at one point generationally all

618
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: time great player. You told me that tank for Trevor,

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: tank for Lawrence. And Trevor Lawrence has been in the

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00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: NFL a number of years now, and the only thing

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00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: he's good at is getting coaches fired. That's all he's

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00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: good at. The guy sucks Trevor Lawrence. So Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Jacksonville blew the league because that's what they do.

624
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: They lose late to Cincinnati and Trevor Lawrence. You'll get

625
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the numbers away. He had three touchdowns, two interceptions. Anyway,

626
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: get to the point. So during the game the loss

627
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: to the Bengals on Sunday, there, Trevor Lawrence was caught

628
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: on candid camera waving dismissively waving off Liam Khne after

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Speaker 1: throwing a inaccurate pass on a crucial down late in

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: the game. Now, we're big on body language, and you

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Speaker 1: don't have to be a body language expert to know

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Speaker 1: this is not good. This is not good. This is

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Speaker 1: not good at all. Now, during that particular game, Lawrence

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00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: did not take kindly to the criticism from Liam Cohne,

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: the head coach there, as we said, and he did

636
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: not complete the pass where it needed to go. On

637
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: the very next play though, after failing to convert on

638
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: third down, the Jaguars went forward on fourth down, and

639
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: this time Trevor Lawrence did did connect as he hit

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, one of the rare times Thomas caught

641
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: a pass as the highly decorator wide receiver not very good,

642
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: get targeted twelve times, only caught four passes. Again, I

643
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: didn't play in the NFL. I don't think that's good.

644
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that good. That's good. But the story

645
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: here is the interaction between the quarterback and the coach

646
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Speaker 1: and the fact that they ended up losing the game

647
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: later on, blew the lead in that game. So what

648
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: is your reaction? What is your reaction to the Jaguars

649
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence dismissively waving off his head coach Liam Kohne

650
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. All right, So this is not nothing.

651
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: The only reason this clown, Liam Khne douve aal County.

652
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: The only reason this guy has a job is to

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00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: fix Trevor Lawrence. Like he is there, not the coach,

654
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: the entire roster. He is there because he's like the

655
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Speaker 1: next in the lineage of nerds. Liam Kohne is like

656
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Speaker 1: the new hot nerd. He's the centerfold nerd, right, and

657
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: so you've got the hottest nerd around, Liam Khne. You know,

658
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: he was with the Rams, the McVeigh tree, and then

659
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: he falling down, and then he went to college and

660
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: they went to Tampa, and then he had success with

661
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. So he's like the sexiest nerd around and

662
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: he was hired to fix Trevor Lawrence. So here they are,

663
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Speaker 1: it's the second game of the season and they are

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Speaker 1: at loggerheads. They are at loggerheads on the sidelines. That

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Speaker 1: is not just heat of the moment, all right, That's

666
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Speaker 1: not like heat of the moment stuff. And all I

667
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Speaker 1: said that is body language. Divorce court is what that is? Right.

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00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: The quarterback just told his brand new head coach that

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Speaker 1: was hired for him. Get lost, pal, get a lot

670
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Speaker 1: of dope, get out of here. It's bad, that's bad,

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: all right. That was with the lead, they had the

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Speaker 1: lead at that time. You got Trevor Lawrence, who cantankerous

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Speaker 1: when he's ahead in the game. What's gonna happen when

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Speaker 1: they play Kansas City in a couple of weeks or whatever,

675
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: They're down by two scores, how's that gonna go? Sideline

676
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: is going to look like Jerry Springer back in the day.

677
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: And I'm all there for it. I'm there for it.

678
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: It's contentious and you would see or you could see

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00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: Liam calling the coach there, pounding his chest like a

680
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Speaker 1: gorilla and keep it low. Trevor, keeper low, Trevor like that,

681
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: and then Lawrence basically said, shut up, you meet ball hero,

682
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Speaker 1: you nerd, and meet ball sandwich. Get out of here.

683
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Speaker 1: You lose her. So and anyone. Every time there's a

684
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Speaker 1: sideline brujja, people bring up, well, Tom Brady got into

685
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Speaker 1: it with Josh McDaniels, he got into it with Bill Belichick,

686
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: And that's true, that is absolutely true. But that did

687
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Speaker 1: not start happening until Brady had established himself as good.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't doing that. When people thought he sucked, which

689
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: was the first two years of his career, they thought

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Speaker 1: he was a fraud and was not legit. And then

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Speaker 1: after a certain period of time people were like, well,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's legit, the real deal, all that stuff, So

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Speaker 1: you don't do that. Laurence stinks. Does anyone think he's

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Speaker 1: good under his family fix? He's good, He's terrible. He's

695
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Speaker 1: a highly overrated. He got the big contract because Jacksonville

696
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Speaker 1: has got low self esteem the franchise as a joke.

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Speaker 1: They paid the guy without earning the contract because they

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Speaker 1: were afraid they had, oh my god, we're gonna lose him,

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Speaker 1: you know, fear of missing out fo mo, and so

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Speaker 1: they paid him. All right, But if the quarterback is

701
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Speaker 1: not there with the coach and it is not good,

702
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: so Lawrence is not good and he's not there, doesn't

703
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Speaker 1: respect the coach. Keep an eye on this. This is

704
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Speaker 1: a it's a tinderbox situation in Jacksonville. It is. If

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Speaker 1: they're bickering like this on camera, they know the cameras

706
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Speaker 1: are on them all the time. When you're in the

707
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Speaker 1: NFL game, there's cameras all the time. There's twenty cameras

708
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: in an NFL game, they're all focused mostly on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and the coach. And you know you're on camera

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Speaker 1: and you're doing that during the game. Okay with I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna say millions because it's Jaguars game, but you know,

712
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Speaker 1: fifty people watching, So you have fifty people watching and

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Speaker 1: imagining the kind of squabbling that must be going on

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors. The thing about it, what's having Now

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Speaker 1: here's a Liam Cohen, the head coach of the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: trying to downplay shocking, trying to downplay what happened with

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Speaker 1: his quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Take all, listen, it was just one throw. I was

719
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Speaker 6: just you know, it is what it is. It's not

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Speaker 6: that's emotion. It's not personal ever to bet. You know,

721
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 6: that's just kind of me getting worked up. So he

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Speaker 6: threw a dime in the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 6: It don't make a play, you know.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 6: I was very pleased with his competitive nature, the ways

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Speaker 6: come on the sidelines that he doesn't get. You know,

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00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 6: he's pretty even keel, which is good for me.

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Speaker 1: I need that. Let me clear my throat here, bull crap,

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00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm sorry about that. Uh yeah, come on, please,

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Speaker 1: you know what it looked like. It looked like a

731
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Speaker 1: father yelling at his teenage son to clean your room, dude,

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Speaker 1: ball pick it up, Trevor, and then Trevor slams the

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Speaker 1: door right in your face, right in your face. It's

734
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Speaker 1: not exactly the leadership not respect. Would have been funny

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00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: if the coach had come out and said, oh, yeah, yeah,

736
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: we hate each other. We got to work together. We

737
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: can't stand each other. He hates me, he thinks I'm

738
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: a nerd. I think he's highly overrated. He's gonna get

739
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: me fired Trevor Lawrence. Now that would be funny. But

740
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: what a mess. So you got the quarterback who's like,

741
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: this guy's a dork, and my coach is a dork,

742
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: and Cohen's not. Not no of these nerd guys, No

743
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: of the nerds. Just like in Miami, right, you got

744
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: great ex's and those guy, but no leadership skills. That

745
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: generally does not end very well in that business. That

746
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: does not end well. You need the alpha, not the omega.

747
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: He's an omega and not an alpha, and that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show.

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Speaker 2: Weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: It's Mallard. How about that?

751
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: To the third degree, this is one big ben gets grilledo.

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Speaker 7: Texas fans are starting to turn on arch Manning. As

753
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 7: the Longhorn struggled in the first half against the UTEP,

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00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 7: they boot him boom.

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00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

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00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 7: Texas was like a six touchdown favorite and ended up

757
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 7: winning by only seventeen. Benet's still early, But do you

758
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 7: think Manning has already lost his projected number one draft status?

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Speaker 1: All right, So first of all, I look at arch

760
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Manning the same way I look at J. J. McCarthy.

761
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Both of them were spoon fed arch Manning. How many

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00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: is two years? Three years? He's already been in Austin

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00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy last year off. You cannot struggle against San

764
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: Jose State and sm Those are show up win domin

765
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: eight games. It's embarrassing. Now he's still got the Manning name.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to close the door that arch

767
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Manning will be a top pick in the draft. But

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00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: it's not looking good. He looks like he doesn't know

769
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: what he's doing. It's embarrassing. I thought the guy was

770
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna be good. He sucks.

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Speaker 7: Next, it was reported over the weekend that Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 7: were set to take Shadur Sanders ahead of the Browns,

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Speaker 7: but that Sanders got word of the team that he

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Speaker 7: did not want to be taken by Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that was the right move by Shador? Well,

776
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: let's see, he's the third string quarterback on the Cleveland Browns,

777
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the NFL. He's really

778
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: the four string quarterback because that report over the weekend

779
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: said he doesn't even run the scout team, that Bailey

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Speaker 1: Zappi runs the scout team like you're not good enough,

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00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: You're not Hello. Of course it was not the right move.

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00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Do something other than live off your daddy's last name.

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Speaker 7: Next, Carmelo Anthony was inducted into the Pro Basketball Hall

784
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Speaker 7: of Fame on Saturday, but it said that Melo won't

785
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Speaker 7: have his number retired by anyone, Ben, Do you think

786
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Speaker 7: that'll be the case.

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Speaker 1: Well, they hate him in Denver because he screwed over

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00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. He wasn't that great with the Knickerbockers. So

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Speaker 1: who else is he good? I don't know. Is there

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Speaker 1: anyone else that can retire his number? Like Carmelo put

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00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: up a lot of points. There's the definition of a

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Speaker 1: stat Bandito Carmelo, Anthony. That guy total fraud. All right,

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Speaker 1: how do we do? Kobolo? You pass the guy? I won,

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Speaker 1: Mike Phelepricaan, I won the game snooker.

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Speaker 1: Hey you sports figure, guy or girl? Who here? Were

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Speaker 1: you talking to? Songs? Here some incident advice?

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Speaker 7: Hold that don no one's paid attention to me for

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Speaker 7: ten whole seconds.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, anyway, we go. It'see

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Speaker 1: instant advice line, unscreened radio. Who needs our advice? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's only won a couple options, but we are gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the head coach of the Chicago Bears. They

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Speaker 1: won the offseason. Congratulations Chicago Bears. They are off to

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Speaker 1: the er and two start. Got smacked around Ben Johnson?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with Ben Johnson? So advice to Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears. Off to the zero and two start,

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Speaker 1: and you're live on the air. When you hear my

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Speaker 1: voice say Hello you online one. You're on the airline one. Hello,

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Speaker 1: your advice to the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Line one more, look at it's not fair go to

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Speaker 2: and they choose the sad before they even get married.

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Speaker 1: You get room. Yeah, that's good point, that's a we

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Speaker 1: should change that. Hello, you should decide after the wedding. Hello,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air line too. Hello, line too, we're

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Speaker 1: giving advice comparing the twenty twenty World Series to the

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Speaker 1: ridiculous Mickey Mouse Championship. Use your brain exactly, great call.

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Speaker 1: That's a solid call, Fergie, Good job by you. Line five,

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Speaker 1: you're on the airline five.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Garata cogarata.

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Speaker 1: Okay, was that poppy? I don't know how Line one, Hello,

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Speaker 1: you're on the airline one. Go jazz Chism needs to

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Speaker 1: shut up before he unless he makes the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh I saw that. Yeah, jazz chishms. The Yankees have arrived.

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Speaker 1: They went they went out and lost to the Red Sox. Hello.

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Speaker 1: Line four. Hello, Line four, you're on the airline for

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Speaker 1: advice to Ben Johnson. Line for the Bears coach in

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Speaker 1: that field, not for losers. Yeah, morning time right there. Now,

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Speaker 1: you're definitely not ricking Maryland. Hello, caller. You're on the air, caller, Hello,

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Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Hello you Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a fake holler, and James stop that hello call.

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Speaker 1: You're on the air. We give you advice to Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Coach Ben Johnson, the Chicago Bears off to the oh

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Speaker 1: and two start.

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Speaker 2: Bears football is supposed to be like making Web two midget.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that. This line eight seven seven

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. On Fox. Line five, you're on the airline five. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 5: Advise the head coach of Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Look at the candy Cooper looppot, that's the lash.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. It's the candy bar of the coop.

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Speaker 1: But hello, line five, you're on the airline five toenail polish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they do have that. The Bears lead the NFL

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Speaker 1: in toenail polish and just nail polish in general. Line

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Speaker 1: number one Hello, line one, JJ McCarthy is about as

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Speaker 1: useful as a lepre con Okay, there you go, we

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Speaker 1: do have a Leprechaun call. You're on the airline three,

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Speaker 1: Go headline three.

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Speaker 5: That's the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's all that's our buddy from Banks. One more

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Speaker 1: only one more of us good, I'll take credit. Hurry up, Cooper,

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Speaker 1: mind you line too. You're on the your line to go, go.

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Speaker 6: Like co Cocaraca.

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Speaker 1: There you go. What great advice to Ben Johnson. That'll

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Speaker 1: help out the Bears a lot right there,