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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and I love bugs. From the slithery

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Speaker 1: and wiggily to the creepy and crawley to the busy

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Speaker 1: and buzzy. Bugs are some of the most populous and

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Speaker 1: diverse animals on the planet, with a fascinating range of behaviors.

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Speaker 1: I think that bugs are often overlooked. Everybody loves a cute,

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Speaker 1: it's eight fuzzy arms. So today let's show some bugs

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Speaker 1: some love. As I tell you about some of my

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Speaker 1: favorite invertebrate mates. Mates isn't friends, I'm not. This is

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Speaker 1: platonic bug love. As humans, our relationship with warmy, squirmy

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Speaker 1: creatures has been complex. They're creepy and slimy, but sometimes useful.

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Speaker 1: We used to use leeches in medical contexts, used in

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Speaker 1: blood litting, because back then doctors sometimes thought that you

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Speaker 1: just had too much blood floating around in you and

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Speaker 1: that was an imbalance of your humors and you gotta,

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Speaker 1: you know, gotta let out some blood. Sometimes today, Leeches

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Speaker 1: are still sometimes used in medicine. The herodo medicanalys a K,

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Speaker 1: the European medical leech, can be used to help reattach fingers.

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Speaker 1: It helps drain the reattached digits of stagnating blood and

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Speaker 1: promotes the flow of new blood into the finger. Maggots,

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Speaker 1: as gross as it sounds, can also be used in medicine.

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Speaker 1: Medical maggots are used to debride necrotic tissue. That's polite

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Speaker 1: medical speech for saying they'll munch on your dead skin.

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Speaker 1: This can help clean wounds and keep them from getting infected. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: don't go pouring leeches or maggots on yourself, because I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure doctors are better at selecting where and when

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Speaker 1: to put worms on your body. Earthworms, another wiggly wonder,

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Speaker 1: helped create fertile soil by processing large chunks of organic

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Speaker 1: matter into human Not the delicious chickpe dip, but that

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Speaker 1: dark brown, nearly black soil that is rich and nutritious

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Speaker 1: for plants to grow. Even parasitic worms can sometimes be

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Speaker 1: heroes in disguise. Certain types of parasitic worms can protect

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Speaker 1: the developing babies of pregnant routes from developing brain inflammation.

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Speaker 1: So see, you guys, having lots of worms can be

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to just appreciate squirmy bugs. I

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Speaker 1: about to talk about a worm who technically isn't even

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Speaker 1: So joining me today is director, writer, comedian and all

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Speaker 1: around great Gale Carmen Angelica. Man, I was trying my

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Speaker 1: heart is not to laugh during that and interrupted. I

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Speaker 1: was delightful, our. I'm so I'm so excited. I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: I love insects so much, and I am about to

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Speaker 1: talk about some of my absolute favorite bugs in the

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Speaker 1: whole world. I say bugs because we will also talk

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Speaker 1: And so first I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: velvet worms. I am I've been recently getting into these

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Speaker 1: at first sight. Oh it's little face is so perfect,

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Speaker 1: The stubble. Well, they're perfect in every way, uh, those

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Speaker 1: many different species. They've been around for about five hundred

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Speaker 1: So this contains velvet worms, tartar grades, which you may

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Speaker 1: They have a soft outer skin uh called a cute ocula,

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Speaker 1: They aren't slimy, they're dry and velvet ea. So it

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Speaker 1: they're they're they they're they're they're cool. Velvet doesn't suddenly

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Speaker 1: of peacock spiders, but I first wanna explore the Maraudas volans,

421
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: which is the Australian peacock spider. Again, Australia, you have

422
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: so many amazing insects and bugs. This is not an insect, sorry,

423
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: but it is a bug. You have amazing spiders. I

424
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: know that Australia gets mocked a lot for having all

425
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: the poisonous, scary animals, which is true. They do. They

426
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: do have, they do have great but they also have

427
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: the cutest, most amazing animals as well. So this this

428
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: little guy, uh is about the size of a grain

429
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: of rice, like many of his fellow peacock jock peink spiders. Yes,

430
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: is teeny tiny. He has a beautiful, vibrant blue, red

431
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: and yellow back fancy like a peacock. And that's one

432
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: of the first photos that I showed you. He's got

433
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: those fluffy little pet of palps. The male's job is

434
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: to impress the female long enough to mate with her

435
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: without getting eaten. Uh. It's a tough world out there.

436
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: The dating scene, the spider dating scene has its pitfalls

437
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: that are a little more extreme. I think, yeah, we

438
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: complain about tender but at the end of the day,

439
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the dating scene in l a. So

440
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: let's go through his his technique to seduce a lady spider.

441
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: It is a multi state like he obviously peacocks because

442
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: he's stop preaty because he's so pretty. So first he

443
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: unfolds his little back flap, which is a colorful white

444
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: fringed or black fringed flap that forms a fan like

445
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: and that's kind of why they're I mean, that is

446
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: literally why they're called peacock spiders, because with a peacock,

447
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: they unfurled that tail fan. With the peacock spider are

448
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: they unfold their little back flap that looks like this

449
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: colorful fan. And he sticks his little legs up behind

450
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: him and starts to clap them together, the little clap

451
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: and dance, and he vibrates his fan for attention and

452
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: does once he's got the female's attention, he does a

453
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: little dance. And here's the thing is it's a risky

454
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: proposition because if he dances and the female is not interested,

455
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: she might just eat them. She's she's tougher than you know,

456
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: she's like, am I honey or hungry? You know. It's

457
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: like it's like America's got talent, got Simon cow you know,

458
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: and they you know, I don't. Reality TV is not

459
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: my star, and I like, how many points frankly, this

460
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: is a reality reality this is but this was but

461
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: if this was Spider's talent, Spider's got talent, it would

462
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: just be instead of getting voted out with the red

463
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: ex dis you just get eaten. Spider's Scott's talent. That's

464
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: that's talent. That's a real risk. That's being like, yeah,

465
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: I kind of think she's cute, but she could eat

466
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: me if she doesn't find me. You know, that would

467
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: be it's like that would be cool for like dating apps,

468
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: like you know, like it would really reduce the amount

469
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: of I think that like sort of foul exchanges with

470
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: people and rude people. If it's just like, well, she

471
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: has the option of just eating me, so I guess

472
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: I'll be polite if she's not into it, not going

473
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: to ask for nudes if she can eat me. So

474
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: if the mail wins her over, she'll allow him to

475
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: mate with her and she'll either let him go or

476
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: eat them. You know. Tends on me if she's hungry. Yeah,

477
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: I would have if I was that male, I would

478
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: have throw a snack. Here's the snickers. And also, I

479
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: hope you like milky way. That's that's funny because there

480
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: are some not these spiders, but there are some species

481
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: of spiders that give nuptial gifts to the females. So

482
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: the females will be eating something as they're mating, which

483
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: reduces the chance of them getting eaten. So Carmen, your

484
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: joke is very scientifically. Oh my god, I am a

485
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: smart spider. You're a smart spider, doctor spider, Carmen Angelic.

486
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Ready with snacks. I mean that's who I am now,

487
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm always ready with snacks. So I would definitely survive

488
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: as a spider. So these mating dances can be as

489
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: quick as a few minutes or as long as a

490
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: little under an hour. So let me show you this.

491
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love how far away he is

492
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: from her too. As he's dancing, He's like, please, don't, please,

493
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: don't eat me. But also look, it is funny because

494
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: sometimes there is a little bit of that cat mouse

495
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: where he'll stick out his little fan TOI. She hold

496
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: his little legs that do a little and then like

497
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: she jumps at him, he like leaps back and he's like,

498
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: oh god, don't eat me. But here's what is good.

499
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: But if you're still interested in card, okay, I see

500
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: you didn't like that. I see you kind of want

501
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: to eat me now, but what about this move? Not

502
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: like that? If I'm gonna just give me a little

503
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: bit of space here, Now, what about a little bit

504
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: of a buch of shimmy, No, oh god, alright, what

505
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: of my cloud? Three times cloud? Looking he's looking through

506
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: these flash cards. He's like, I don't know if you're

507
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: coming at me with hunger or with like because I'm

508
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: done for what is that drooling? Like you're you find

509
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: me attractive? Or is it okay you're put you got

510
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: a little salt chake out? Is that like a little

511
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: kinky thing or okay? All right? The barbecue sauce coming

512
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: out up? I gotta I you know what I'm done?

513
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: So they have several dance moves, and they do. If

514
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: they're attentive, they can actually see if the female's interested

515
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: or not, because the female will actually wave her abdomen

516
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: back and forth and like a little no gesture. If

517
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: they're not interested and attentive, males can either escape with

518
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: their life or adjust their dance a little bit, sort

519
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: of use it up, so if they're persistent. If they're persistent,

520
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: So there several dance moves. So there's the the opposite

521
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: themal Wait, no, that's not it opathosomal bobbing, which is

522
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: butt bobbing. Uh, there's the third leg wave. So first

523
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: I want to say, actually, there's a researcher, Madeline Gerard

524
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: at Berkeley who has been studying these peacock spiders, and

525
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: she published a paper along with her cohorts where they

526
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: recorded peacock spiders and their dance rituals and broke it

527
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: down for us so we can see what was going on.

528
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: So first there's the opposite, themal bobbing, which is but

529
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: bobbing basically just like a little buckle like a boom

530
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: boom boom boom. And then there's the third leg wave,

531
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: which is not it's it's not the quote third leg.

532
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: It's actually their third set of legs wave, not a sweener.

533
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: So um, there's that would be inappropriate for this, it's inappropriate.

534
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: And there's the fan raise and expansion. That's that when

535
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: they like pop out there beautiful backflap and wave it around. Uh,

536
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: there's the I'm not making this one up. It's called

537
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: the rumble rumps. That's that's where they vibrate the fan

538
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: and the fan dance and third leg dance where they

539
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: like wave their legs, clap their legs together and like

540
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: like rustle the fan around and moved from side to side. Um,

541
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: and if that all goes well, and they're not eaten. Uh,

542
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: there's the premunt display and crunch rolls where it's like

543
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: wiggling its butt and like like it starts extending its

544
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: arms out like like lee, hug me, hug me, please,

545
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: hug me, please, hug me, and um. Of the sixty

546
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: four males that they studied, only sixteen were successful in mating.

547
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: It's suggests that females have ex eatingly high standards, which

548
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: means that probably they're trying to select just the absolute best, boldest,

549
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: fittest males of the bunch. You really do, That's what

550
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: it's about. In the spider life, it kind of makes

551
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: sense because peacock spiders only live for about a year

552
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: and most of the females don't remate, and then they'll

553
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: often die after their first set of eggs because they'll

554
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: guard their eggs for weeks on end without eating. So

555
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: being extra choosy about their mate is important because they

556
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: basically have one shot at it, and they starve themselves

557
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: because yeah, because if they go out hunting, the risk

558
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: is that something is going to come eat their eggs,

559
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: so they stay with their eggs, sacrifice at all for

560
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: their eggs. So it makes sense for them to be

561
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: choosy when it comes to their males. Also makes sense

562
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: for them to eat the males after after because like

563
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: all that extra nutrition is really going to help them.

564
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: So there are of course many other species of peacock spiders,

565
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: all with their own unique dance and coloration and rhythm,

566
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: and it's really funny. They back in Madeline's Gerard's lab

567
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: at you see Berkeley, they made a video of these

568
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: various dances, and I just want to show you a

569
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: few and and have you listened to some of the

570
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: rhythms that they make. So that's one one of the spiders.

571
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: Let's get another. One's moves in pre kind of leans

572
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: to the side. This one's uh, that one doing that

573
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: weird sideling dance is actually called the sparkle muffin uh spider,

574
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: and it's nearly discovered one. This one is that I

575
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: love that one to the black one because it just

576
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: it basically it's a little butt fan just because like

577
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: tick talk talk like a little metronome. Uh. It's it's

578
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: it's incredible. They have their unique vibration, their unique rhythm

579
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: and dances and kind of colors and butt shakes and

580
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful. And even though spiders don't

581
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: hear like we do, we don't have they don't have

582
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: ears like humans do, they can feel vibrations with sensory

583
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: organs and hairs on their legs, and so it's like

584
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: they just get this full spectacle of movement, color and music. Basically,

585
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: wow wow spiders. I know, I thought I loved them before,

586
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: but I love them even more. Yeah, it's it's I

587
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: think it's one of those things where we we think

588
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: of them as being sort of, I guess, soulless little murderers,

589
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: but look at this. They've got they've got heart. I mean,

590
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: they are still they will still engage in the murdering part,

591
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: but at least I don't know very many animals that

592
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: don't write exactly. At least they spruce it up with

593
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of dance moves before the horror. And

594
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: they truly are very pretty beautiful, beautiful. I really I

595
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: will include some links to them in the show notes,

596
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: but I really encourage you guys to look up photos

597
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: of peacock spiders because they're adorable and absolutely gorgeous. Spiders

598
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: get a bad rap and there are a few myths

599
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that I Katie Golden Spider, Attorney at law, would like

600
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: to clear up for my clients slanderous myth Number one,

601
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: you will swallow around eight spiders a year. This is

602
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: just completely untrue. Spiders don't want to get in your

603
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: big gross smells no offense. In fact, this myth was

604
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: created specifically to show how galible people could be when

605
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: it comes to quote unquote facts written on the Internet.

606
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: It originates from PC Professionals. Article writer Lisa Holst wrote

607
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: a list of ridiculous facts to prove her point about

608
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: what people would be willing to believe, including the eight

609
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: mouth spiders a year thing. Admitted it in writing Huna, Lisa,

610
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm about to issue as spider subpoena, which is basically

611
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: a cluster of dead flies and some sticky webbing. Anyways,

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00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Another slanderous smith is that spiders can lay their eggs

613
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: under your skin. Now, there are plenty of bugs who

614
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: like to do this, but spiders ain't one of them.

615
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: In fact, spiders are often victims of parasites such as

616
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: parasitoid wasps parasitic hare worms. So if you think about it,

617
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: team human and team spiders are on the same side

618
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: when it comes to parasites. Now slanderous item number three.

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00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: Thousands of spiders work together to spend giant webs that

620
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: can cover trees, sometimes extending over twenty five ft long. Well,

621
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: all right, you got us on this one. It's true.

622
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: Communal spiders can actually do this, but I promise my

623
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: clients have no current plans to capture humans and eat

624
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: them when we return. What's round, fuzzy, buzzy and flies.

625
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: It's not what you think. We know that pollinators are important.

626
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: It's how a lot of plants do. Set Bees are

627
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: renowned for their pollinating abilities, as they should be, tiny

628
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: be sized awards all around, but there are many other

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Speaker 1: insects and animals who are pollinators as well. Ants and

630
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: even mosquitoes can help pollinate. Hummingbirds, sunbirds, and honey eaters

631
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: dip into flowers with their long beaks, carrying bits of

632
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: pollen with them as they fly around from flower to flower.

633
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: Those little pollen covered teases. Bats are fantastic pollinators. Nectar

634
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: slurping bats, such as the lesser long nose bat, can

635
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: sometimes imbibe so much flower juice their entire furry bodies

636
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: become yellow with a dusting of pollen. It's kind of

637
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: like when you eat too many cheetahs and you become

638
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: marked with that sweet, sweet orange powder. Now I want

639
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: to talk about one of the cutest and most prodigious

640
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: pollinators in the world who's also got a bit of

641
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: a dirty secret. So, Carmen, have you ever heard of

642
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: a bee fly? Well, come on, silly, they fly all

643
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: the time. Now I'm just kidding you. Well, the bee

644
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: fly our family flies who look stunningly like bees. And

645
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I got a couple of photos of them. Oh my god,

646
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: they're so cute, right, These are a lot of cute

647
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: little guys. I know. These are the cutest buggies in

648
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: the world. Look at that moving a little nuggy buggy,

649
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: so cute, just a little nugget. So yeah, these are

650
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Are the Anna stoke Acus. Yeah,

651
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: it's a genus a very fuzzy bee flies that look

652
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: like pokemon. And that that's like what I showed you

653
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: just now. They look like CUTEI fly the pokemon. They

654
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: have these round fuzzy bodies that look like pussy willow buds.

655
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that? Like the little pustle willle

656
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: buzz They're just like little poofs of buzz and they

657
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: have a long, black pointed proboscis that looks like a

658
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: nose and a little black eyes and wings, and that

659
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: little proboscis is not for stinging, doesn't sting anything. It

660
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: just is for dipping into nectar. And in England they're

661
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: also known as bee walls like narwalls because of their

662
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: little tusk like proboscis and uh they hum when they

663
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: fly and because of that long beak like proboscis, they

664
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: look a little bit like hummingbirds as they feed on nectar.

665
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: And they're they're fantastic pollinators. They're harmless to humans. They

666
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: are found all over the world. The anastokic Us barbados

667
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: is also known as the bearded beefly, is found in

668
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: North America. Hey, yeah, there you go, And yeah, they're

669
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: they're totally friendly to humans. They won't hurt us. They're

670
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: not quite as friendly to beetles, wasps and solitary bees

671
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: who nest on the ground because they have a little

672
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: bit of a sneaky, sneaky nesting strategy. So the beefly

673
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: will lay her eggs in the nest of one of

674
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: these insects, usually without even needing the land, she can

675
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: shake her abdomen and basically dive bomb it with eggs.

676
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: It's kind of like like if you just like we're

677
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: giving birth to a baby and you're just like you're

678
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: like flying around and just like bombs away like babies,

679
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: bab babies, babies for everyone, Babies for you, babies for you. Uh.

680
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: These bomber flies actually have a sand chamber in their

681
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: abdomen that they fill up with sand and then like

682
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: use it to coat the eggs and sand so that

683
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: they're more aerodynamic, because you know, these are little their

684
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: little b sized flies, and so their eggs are pretty

685
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: small and to overcome that wind resistance, if you coat

686
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: them in sand, it makes them better projectiles. And it

687
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: also helps camouflage them so the their host targets don't

688
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: know what's up. Then the larva will once they hatch

689
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: and they are deposited inside these burrows of Usually it's

690
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: like a wasp or a solitary bee or a beetle

691
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: of some kind that burrows into the ground to lay

692
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: their own larva, but the bee fly shoots their babies

693
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: in there. Their babies hatch into larva, and then once

694
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: they're and once they've infiltrated these nests, they'll eat all

695
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: the pollen provisions that were laid out for their hosts babies,

696
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: and then they'll also eat the host babel. I felt

697
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: like this wasn't going somewhere good, and I was right.

698
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: Then they used the burrow as their own nursery until

699
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: they grow up into fully grown, fuzzy adults, a little

700
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: bad babies, well bad babies babies, And despite this brutal

701
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: act of forced babysitting, they're actually really wonderful pollinators, sometimes

702
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: even outpacing their be competitors when it comes to pollinating flowers. Yeah,

703
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: and the appearance of bee flies. You know, obviously they're

704
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: called bee flies because they resemble bees, and there there's

705
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: a wide variety. My favorite are just those those fuzzy ones.

706
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: But there's a wide variety of different kinds of beeflies.

707
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: Some aren't so fuzzy, some look exactly like a bee,

708
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: some kind of look almost wasp like. Now it could

709
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: be Baitsian mimicry. That's when an animal who is harmless

710
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: mimics a more scary animal to defend itself from potential predators.

711
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: So that's like the caterpillar who pretends to look like

712
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: a snake or the moth who has like eye spots

713
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: on its wings, so it looks like an owl. Uh,

714
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: And so it could be trying to mimic a bee

715
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: so that it's potential predators leaves it alone. Because when

716
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: it's uh, when it's both kind of laying eggs and

717
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: laying low to the ground and when it is born

718
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: at it or not born, but when it comes out

719
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: of the burrow that it's stolen, it's vulnerable because it

720
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: has to like allow its wings to dry in the

721
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: air and such, just kind of sitting there like a lame.

722
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: So if it's camouflaged in some way either by looking

723
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: like a bee. There's also the theory that this is

724
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: kind of convergent evolution where their their coloration is either

725
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: trying to blend in with the ground to avoid detection.

726
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: Like there's some of the bees that are kind of

727
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: spotty or buff colored um, but the ones with stripes,

728
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: it could be that they're just using the same strategy

729
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: of bees where they're using disruptive coloration. So like these

730
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: these banded stripes make it harder to for predators to

731
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: pick out the shape of the bee. Yeah, it's a

732
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: really interesting life they lead, and they're also extremely cute.

733
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: It's all bees, the bad baby be baby bees. You

734
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: know that that Hollywood trope of like the the evil

735
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: but cute cute, cute evilness, like a lot of like

736
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what's like the most famous

737
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: famous example of like the evil cute, adorable, adorable using

738
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: their adorable nous to like sneak into your life and

739
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: destroy you. Man, boss Baby, No, No, I'm just kidding. Yeah,

740
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: boss Baby. Boss Baby is always the right an allergen

741
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: to make. It's it's an iconic film that you can

742
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: be used in all situations. Oh god, but yeah, I

743
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: think I feel like this, this has potential in a future.

744
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: I could see it in an animated film where it's

745
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: like the the b fly can a bee fly? Yeah? Yeah,

746
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: there we go. I now I know that. Yeah the

747
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: first time and not again now because I know about it.

748
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I kind of wish for all of these little buggies

749
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: that we've talked about, the velvet worm, the peacock spider,

750
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: and the bee fly kind of I don't normally say

751
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: this about bugs, but I wish there was a giant

752
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: version version I do, especially the elvet worm. If I

753
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: could just have a big, old, pudgy velvet worm, I

754
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: could carry like a baby and have as a little

755
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: baby what a pet, and then you could just have

756
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: it go like sick them and have them like shoot

757
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: glue at people you don't like and then slowly approach

758
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: towards them. But a peacock spider pet friend would also

759
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: be adorable and cute so beautiful. Man, I would just

760
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: like give me a bunch of giant bugs. All right,

761
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: we'll get started work. I'll work on it. I'll work

762
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: on and see what I can do. I'll see what

763
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I can do. Do you have a favorite bug? Or

764
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: if I convinced you adopt one of these, is your

765
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: favorite bus? I mean I really love I mean that

766
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: worm with velvet worm so dank cute, it's so cute.

767
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: I favorite bug. I'm trying to think if there's a

768
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: favorite book. Before this, I will say I was obsessed

769
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: with spiders as a child, and it sort of hasn't

770
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: gone away. That's unusual, you know, usually, like even I

771
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: was scared of of spiders when I was a kid,

772
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: younger kid, and like it was actually because I was

773
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: scared of them that I really tried to learn more

774
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: about them to kind of get over it. And so

775
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear when someone isn't like, how young

776
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: were you when you I think I did like a

777
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: project on spiders when I was in first grade. Oh wow,

778
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: so yeah you started you got in the spider trade

779
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: and young, and then I was like really into them.

780
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: And then I think there was like a personal pride

781
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: with being like and I'm not afraid of it. But

782
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: then one day I did get bitten by a spider

783
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: when I was like a teenager, and then I developed

784
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: fear because I was like, oh, they do hurt, they

785
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: do by what do you know what spider you were

786
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: bitten by? I think it was like it wasn't poisonous,

787
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: but it was. It was in my shoe, and I

788
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: feel bad because like I had, you know, it was

789
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: like imagine a giant foot entering the place you were

790
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: just hanging out right like a little rude to be

791
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: like you're you're just like you found a nice little

792
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: cozy area taking a little now, but a giant but

793
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: it just comes on in trying to evade your personal space.

794
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: So it like bit my foot and I think it

795
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: was I don't know but it was pretty. It was like, um,

796
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: I'd say it was as big as like the tip

797
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: of my finger, So it wasn't like teeny right, um,

798
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: but the spider itself was big enough. But it hurt. Yeah,

799
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: I remember, I was like like yeah, and I got

800
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: like a little yeah. Yeah, I've had a spider bite

801
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: before and it's not fun. I got like a good

802
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: juicy welt. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm

803
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: not I wouldn't say I'm afraid of them now. I

804
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: think I have a healthy respect for spiders where I

805
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: see that they're not one I want to be bitten by. Yeah,

806
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,959
Speaker 1: but I don't, so I don't like go and pick

807
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: them up like a lunatic, unless unless it's a jumping spider.

808
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: I will actually very very gingerly pick up jumping spiders

809
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: because they're so I mean, they're very tiny, so you

810
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: have to be incredibly careful of handling them. You don't

811
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: want to hurt them. But they are so cute, like

812
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: to hold them on. They're tiny, they're so teeny. What

813
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: was your favorite spider growing up? I really I really

814
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: liked the I thought the Black Widow was really cool. Yeah,

815
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: and very famous obviously, did you live somewhere where there

816
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: were black widows around? No, I lived in Minnesota. Yeah,

817
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: so they weren't actually well there, I'm sure there were

818
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: a fair amount of spiders, but I think only during

819
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: certain seasons, like it's very cold, and imagine that makes

820
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: it hard for spiders. Yeah. I think it's an interesting

821
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: kind of difference because like where I grew up in

822
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: San Diego, there were black widows everywhere, and so I

823
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, I would say I'm maybe not super afraid

824
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: of them because of being exposed to them a lot,

825
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: but I don't like them. As a little kid, you're

826
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: digging around trying to find treasure and then you find

827
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: a black widow instead, and you're like, well, now I've

828
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: got to leave this whole area. Yeah, because they're very,

829
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: very pleasonous. It's like you're digging around in the where

830
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: I was like, you're looking for treasure. Huh, treasures spiders

831
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: and spiders and pain. I mean, I I just thought

832
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: they were so cool. They are cool, and I never

833
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: saw it in person. So maybe you know, yea, you lived,

834
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: we lived with them? Yeah? Yeah, I live my my

835
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: year living with spi Now, Yeah, I mean it's it's

836
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: interesting I think sort of the different responses to two spiders,

837
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: and it's I think it is interesting that we have

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Speaker 1: think is great because like, of course you want to

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Speaker 1: And especially now that we have all of these climate

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Speaker 1: you also remember the animals that are not not so cuddly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: love it. It's a beautiful Patu. Well, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me today. You got anything to plug?

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