1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and there's Jerry over there. We are reveling 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: in nature this morning. We're just loving life because it 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: has rained and it smells amazing outside. And it turns 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: out that that amazing smell is called petrochor. Chuck go, yeah, 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: And so we decided to have school outside today. Remember that? 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I loved that because it also meant not 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: only that it was a nice day out and that 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: your teacher had clearly taken acid that morning, but that 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the the end of the school year was fast approaching. 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Uh sure, because I guess that was usually in the spring, right, 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: especially in Toledo. Like if you if it, if it 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: was nice enough to go outside, you were coming up 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: on the end of the school year. So love that, yes, 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: But petro chor, like you said, if you ever go 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: outside after a rain, especially a light rain, which we'll 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: get to more so than a heavy rain. Uh And 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: you think, man, what is it about that smell that 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: I love so much? And we should also do one 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: on fresh cut grass? Okay, that's something similar, but that 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: has a name, and that is petrochor. P. E. T R. 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I C h O R. And it is that earthy 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: sort of warm, steamy, earthy fragrance that we get. And 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: there is a story behind it and reasons for it 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: that is science based, yes, which makes it just amazingly wonderful. Yes. 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: But it came from Australia, right. The name it's did 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Australia in the sixties. Actually, um, it's based on two 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: Greek words um Petro's I believe, which means stone, and 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: i corps, which means the fluid that flows in the 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: veins of the gods. Blood of the gods is a 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: simpler way to think about I also saw a life 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: force of the gods coming from a stone. They really 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: went all out, but they had great names. Well, at 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: least the woman researcher did Isabel joy Bear. I love 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: that name. It's just a wonderful little name, like it 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: should be a like Nickelodeon Sprout cartoon or something. And 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: that Isabelle joy Behar. That's different, right, That's like Kathleen 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Turner overdrive. Anyway. The other guy was Richard Thomas, who 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: had a whole hum name. But the two of them 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: coined this term in ur in an article in the 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: journal Nature The article is called Nature of our Galacious 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Odor with a you because they were in Australia and 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: they coined this term. But they also kind of got 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: down to what creates this and rather than it just 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: being one thing, it seems to be a combination of 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: three amazing things that all kind of come to the 47 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: four during a rainstorm, especially after a dry spell. The 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: first rain after a prolonged dry spell really stinks up 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: the place with beautiful odors. Yeah, And the first thing 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about is a molecule that's made 51 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: by a certain kind of bacteria. And the molecule is 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: called geosmin g e O S M I N and 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: it's produced by the bacteria stripped to mices when it dies, right, 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: and it's all over the ground if it's you know, 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: healthy ground. And we figured out the stripto mices makes 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: a really good antibiotic. We use stripedo mices secure a 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: bunch of different stuff. But um, it's not stripped of mices. 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: Were smelling. It's this molecule that stripped of mices produces 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: as when it dies, and I believe as it's being 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: consumed by other bacteria. Right, So this geosman stuff that's 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: in the soil um has this earthy smell that the 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: the earthy component of petrocre is it comes from this molecule. 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: And they knew this starting back in the sixties with 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Bear and Thomas, and they didn't know exactly how that 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: would happen though, like how does a molecule in the 66 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: soil get into the air to make it, you know, 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: the smell after a rain. And then finally some m 68 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I T researchers proved it once and for all in 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, that it becomes aerosolized. Yeah, that's 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: really cool. Like just four years now as we record this, 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: we've known exactly how this happened because they used these 72 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: really high speed close up cameras to the ground and 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: they found out what the rain drops they trapped little 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: tiny air bubbles when they hit the ground, and then 75 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: those bubbles shoot up through the rain drop and kind 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: of pop an aerosol like uh, sort of when you 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: look at it when you pour a soda, that's stuff 78 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: that fizzes at the top. It just sort of aerosoli aerosolizes, yeah, 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: and it spreads by the wind, and that's why a 80 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: light rain makes the smell more like, if it's just 81 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: like pounding with rain, it's not gonna aerosize and aerosolies 82 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: and spread out as much, right, because it's diffused by 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: the wind. Like it pops up from the rain drops, 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: it pops through the rain drops into the air, and 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: then the wind kind of carries it. So if you've 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: ever noticed, especially before a storm, it's technically not smelling 87 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: before the storm. It's smells just at the very beginning 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: of the storm when the first droplets have hit the 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: ground and have begun to aristolize, but the wind is 90 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: really starting to pick up and carry it through. That's 91 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: where Geosman really comes into play. Yeah, and here's the 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: deal with Geosman. Why it's kind of a big deal 93 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: for us humans is that, more so than any animal 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: that I could find, human beings are really really sensitive 95 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: to the smell of Geosman. It's so bizarre, man, Like, 96 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: we're super sensitive. Yeah, I mean that means it's important, right, 97 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: it does. And they're not quite sure why it's important. 98 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: They think that maybe we evolved to be able to 99 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: find water through the scent of Geosman. It makes sense, 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: but um, so we're more sensitive Geosman than sharks are 101 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: to blood. Amazing. A shark can smell something like one 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: part of blood per billion parts of water, and we 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: can smell geosman at five parts per trillion. So we're 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: more sensitive to the smell of Geosman than a shark 105 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: is to the scent of blood in the water, right, 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: which I did some more research into that. Apparently sharks 107 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: have been overstated a bit. They can smell blood pretty well, 108 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: but it's not like those things where they can smell 109 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: it a mile away. That's all internet legend. Okay, sure, 110 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: but even still, I mean, the shark smells blood to 111 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: sustain itself with food, and we somehow evolved to smell 112 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: geosmen even better than a shark can. We're not known 113 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: for us since a smell. So there is a there's 114 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: a riddle there. There's a red flag evolutionarily speaking, that 115 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: we have yet to figure out. But it definitely is significant. 116 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: All Right, We're going to spend sixty seconds trying to 117 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: figure it out. You listen to this break and we'll 118 00:06:45,440 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: come back and figure it out and let you know. Alright, 119 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: so here's another cool thing the paper. But did we 120 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: figure it out? Now? We didn't figure it out. Okay, 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing in that paper by Baron Thomas in 122 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: n s four. It's pretty cool. Uh. They found out 123 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: that this the scent was being captured and sold in 124 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: India as mettica atar and Geosman is also like becoming 125 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: a perfume ingredient, which is pretty amazing. Yeah, it has 126 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: been in India for a while, but the uh, I 127 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: guess the perfume industry in the United States and Europe 128 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: is finally catching up to that these days. Yeah, we 129 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: we love the smell, but we hate the taste as 130 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: as they say, yes, because Geosman also appears um in 131 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: other places, sometimes in the ter war of wine or 132 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: in mineral water. I don't know that, however, detected it 133 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: at least they didn't realize that. Yeah. I need to 134 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: know what it it is because I love beats, I 135 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: love mineral water. I certainly am made partially of wine. 136 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: So I need to know if, like all those things 137 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: that I like, if it's in there, then I probably 138 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: like to taste. So you do like the earthy taste 139 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: of beats, because that's what gives beats. It's earthy tastes 140 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: yours I do too, but I'm also like walking on 141 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: a razor's edge of enjoying beats every time I do 142 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: to where if I stopped and really thought about the taste, 143 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I would hate it immediately and possibly forever. So I 144 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: just think about other stuff, like you know, baseball or 145 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: my old cabbage patch kid when I was younger. Interesting. Yeah, 146 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: I don't know about the second one, but yes, okay, 147 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: but that's not all, is it, Chuck. No, This this 148 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: next part is really cool to me, um, because if 149 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: you've ever noticed, if you've been in a rainstorm in 150 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: the country or the woods, it smells very different than 151 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: in the city. And that's not just because when it 152 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: rains in the city it's kicking up pee and poop 153 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: and garbage and stuff like that into the here. No, 154 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: because it's something. It technically smells cleaner in the city 155 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: than it does even in the countryside. Yeah, and that's 156 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: not because there's more to clean in the city, and 157 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: so you're smelling the offshoot of that. What it is 158 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: is ozone, that third ingredient that you smell when you 159 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: have that patricor effect? Is that a term? The the 160 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: effect of it effect up, Yeah, is lightning. So when 161 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: a thunderstorm comes around that what you're smelling with the lightning, 162 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: that clean, sort of crisp thing that you can't quite 163 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: put your finger on is ozone, Yeah, which is produced 164 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: naturally up in the atmosphere. But the electrical like bolt 165 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: of anger that is lightning also excites the oxygen molecules 166 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: in there so much that it combine them together into 167 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: oh three, that's ozone, and that does have a very 168 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: specific smell. It's weird. It's a weird smell. I remember 169 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: we had a listener one time that was, um, do 170 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: you remember this guy he was making O owned deodorant. No, yeah, 171 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: he sents. I think he sent it to me because 172 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: he knows that I have deodorant problems. Oh I want 173 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: to try that. Who if you're listening please years ago. 174 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: But if you're listening citizen some more. I didn't care 175 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: for it. Had a weird smell, and he was like, yeah, 176 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: some people ozone's kind of goes one way or the other. 177 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll use your old stick if you're not using it anymore. 178 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: I don't think you want my four year old ozone 179 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: deodan Yeah, yeah, with like your armpit hair is still 180 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: stuck to the top of it. Oh gosh. Um. So 181 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: the reason why it smells cleaner in the city is 182 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: because there's less geosman, because there's typically less soil in 183 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: the city and geosman smells more earthy than ozone. Um. 184 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: So you get more of a prominent geosman smell in 185 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the countryside, which means you get more of an ozone 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: smell in the city, which means it smells cleaner in 187 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: the city. Yeah, it's not like there's more ozone in 188 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: the city, is just more prominent because there's less of 189 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: the geosman, right, right, But there is another ingredient and 190 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: we skipped over it's technically the second ingredient. And they're 191 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: not sure of this, but it's just it makes so 192 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: much sense that they're almost certain that this is the case. 193 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: That the third component of petroc or you've got geosman, 194 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: ozone and then tirpenes, the things that give plants their 195 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: distinctive smells. They think that tirpenes are activated through a 196 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: number of different mechanisms um that make them produce a 197 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: much more fragrant smell right around a rainstorm. Uh, and 198 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: then that contributes to the smell of petrocre to right, 199 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: and if it's been like really dry for a long time, 200 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: that rain may be hard enough to where it like 201 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: breaks off dry plant material and stuff like that releases 202 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: that chemical uh, and they like in it. In this 203 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: article from the BBC, just like when you crush up 204 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: dried herbs, it releases that smell. Yeah, and it would 205 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: probably follow the same process as the geosman where it 206 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: just becomes airsolized by the raindrops as they hit them. 207 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: Very cool. This is a good one to know. Like, 208 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: next time you're in a rainstorm and someone comments about 209 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: why it smells, just say patricor or the next time 210 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: was somebody just spits out a bite full of food 211 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: in their napkin and says, I hate beats. You can 212 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: explain what petricor right, Well, that's it for petrocor, patricor 213 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Uh, it has been done. 214 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: So short stuff is out. 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