1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: There's a locomotive heading toward Donald Trump, and it's called 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: the indictment. Cannonball that he had documents in and of 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: itself isn't a concern. We're just not going to comment 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: on the investigation. Bloomberg Sound On, Politics, Policy, and perspective 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: from DC's top names. The political reality is the more 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in the news, the better for Democrats. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: These are the things that will turn voters in our direction. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Talking about Donald Trump is not going to help that construct. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. But 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: water gets hotter around mar A Lago. Welcome to the 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Fastest Hour in politics, as the Justice Department reveals more 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: information about the search and the documents they found, with 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: new accusations that someone may have tried to conceal them 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: from the FBI. We're joined by Donald Air, former US 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Deputy Attorney General, with his expertise on what we learned today. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: President Biden heads back to Pennsylvania tomorrow for a primetime 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: address to the nation. But can he help Democrats running 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: in the state or around the country for that matter. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg opinion columnist Julianna Goldman says it may not matter. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk about her piece today on the terminal, and 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: we'll hear from our signature panel Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Davis and Jennie Chanzano back together. You've probably seen the 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: picture by now. You've seen the photograph of classified documents 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: strewn across the floor at Mara a Lago. Cover sheets 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: on at least five sets of papers marked Top secret 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: s c I Sensitive Compartmented Information filing makes the accusation 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: that somebody may have tried to remove the papers are 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: concealed them somehow before the FBI visited mar Lago in June. 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Former Assistant US Attorney Jeff Robbins telling ABC News Today 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: he believes the former president will face criminal charges. There's 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: a locomotive heading toward Donald Trump, and it's called the 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Diepmond cannonball. Robin says it's not just Donald Trump, though, 34 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: who could end up in trouble. The lawyers face suspicion 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: by the Department of Justice of having uh engaged potentially 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: in an instruction of justice conspiracy, violation of the Espionage 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Act lying to the FBI. Okay, now, add the Bloomberg 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: headline that broke midday today, d o J likely to 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: wait past mid terms to reveal any Trump charges, which 40 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: would be consistent with long standing department policy, as I understand, 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: and let's get into it right now with an authority 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: on this, Donald Air, former US Deputy Attorney General, former 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Deputy solicitor General now Georgetown Law School is with us 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Donald, thanks for being back. What is 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: the d o J policy on not interfering with an election? 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it specifically written out? Well, each each 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: administration has put out a memo on the subject, and 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: they they're they're very similar, and they're they're not ironclad, 49 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: and there's not a mechanical rule. But bos idea, uh 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: is you try not to interfere with an election if 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: you can. But there's a lot of other things you 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: have to think about. Seeing that photograph today brought this 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: home for a lot of us in a way that 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: reading about the documents in the affidavit on Friday could not. Uh. 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: You saw that today the cover the cover sheets top secret, uh, 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: some of them uh, potentially containing the most important secrets 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: in in the United States. Arsenal here along with a 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Time magazine with Donald Trump's picture on the cover. Uh, 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: it's just you know, kind of perfect the way the 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: whole thing played out. But what did you see in 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: that photograph that got your attention? Well, what I mean 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: clearly that these are these are classified documents of a 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: very important sort of course, we're not able to know 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: and can't know specifically what they're what they are, um, 65 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: But the volume is incredible. I mean, we have criminal 66 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: cases where Sandy Burger, for example, was procest you an 67 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: in connection with one or two documents. Um. So this 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: is a high volume of very sensitive stuff and the 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: idea that it could be the basis of a prosecution, 70 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I think is very real. The difficulty for those of 71 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: us on the outside is that we don't know all 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: the specifics. All we know are the are the things 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: that the Justice Department has found it appropriate and necessary 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: to say in ongoing interactions with the court that Donald 75 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Trump ultimately stimulated. That's the great irony about it. We 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be hearing any of this stuff if Donald Trump 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: had announced the search and be brought this motion for 78 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: a special Master that the Justice Departments now answering, and 79 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: if yes, if it weren't for that attempt to get 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: the special Master, we would not have had the response 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: filing last night. Correct, this has really been directed by 82 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's legalty. Well, it's been directed in the sense 83 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: that they've made a request in the department has to 84 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: answer it. So maybe not intentionally yet. So we heard 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: from Trump today on Truth Social terrible. He writes, quote, 86 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: this is a direct quote terrible. The way the FBI 87 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: during the raid of Marlago through documents haphazardly all over 88 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the floor, perhaps pretending it was me that did it. 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Let's stop right there with what you understand, Donald, in 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: terms of the way a field team like this would 91 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: be conducting business. Is that normal to see evidence strewn 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: on the floor. There's a two A card that they 93 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: put there to identify the items. Well, I think you know, 94 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know exactly how this occurred, but 95 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: that the idea that they were laid out in a 96 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: way they could all be saying doesn't strike me as 97 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: peculiar at all. And and and the idea that that 98 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: there's anything that there's a raid here when you look 99 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: at the basis for this affidavit and for this search, 100 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: and it's perfectly clear that they were as as as 101 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: patient as they could possibly be, and they finally reached 102 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: the point where they felt they had to go in 103 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: on the judge of greed or there was a risk 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: that the documents would be destroyed or diverted. He goes 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: on to write that in that same post, thought that 106 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: one of them kept secret even though we cannot seeing them. 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Lucky I declassified exclamation point. That last point there has 108 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: been debunked many times on the air. Donald what's your 109 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: view on the president's ability to declassify information well without 110 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: telling anyone about it. Well, there there's no way you 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: can do that, and there's absolutely no indication that any 112 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: process was ever set up that would allow him to 113 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: do it. There's not a record of anything. It's complete nonsense. 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: It's just one more lie by Donald Trump trying to 115 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: spend the story in a way that's contrary to the facts. 116 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: And the facts are real clear at this point. And 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: I think this interaction with the court has told all 118 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: of us pretty clearly what's going on here, and and 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: the Justice Department has done it totally appropriately because they 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: had to make these filings in court. You do see, though, 121 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the base for a criminal case here. You said that earlier, Right, Well, 122 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I said, yes, I do. I mean, I say, I 123 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: think clearly the possession of these documents, if it's wilful, 124 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and it clearly appears to be willful, is a possible 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: basis for a criminal action. Now, I think, you know, 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: we all have to be patient and wait and see 127 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: what the Justice Department decides to do, because bringing a 128 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: prosecution is a judgment call um. And the thing is 129 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: that we we don't know anything but the the broad 130 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: outlines of the facts. We don't know what else is 131 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: going on there. We don't know about the interactions with 132 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: other people at mar Lago in connection with it. We 133 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: have a statement in the in the filing last night 134 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: that appears that there was obstruction and and and the 135 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: documents were moved. Um, well, there's a story there, and 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the story there, I think is an important part of 137 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: whether they decide to go forward and on what schedule 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: and likely would bring in other parties. Right, we're not 139 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: just talking about Donald J. Trump. It could be his lawyers, 140 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: it could be staff from mar Lago. Well, they could be. 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: It certainly could be others. And of course there's a 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: story that's been well reported of his lawyer who signed 143 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: an affiday, but who specifically saying I think after the 144 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: January third visit, they gave it all to the documents, 145 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: We gave it all to you, you've got it all. Well, 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: they didn't have it all, not even close. In fact, 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: they go back with the search for it and they 148 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: find more than they have gotten up to date. So um, yeah, 149 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I think there is that real possibility. Look, I do 150 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: want to just restate to everyone that we do not 151 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: know what is in the documents. We have to be 152 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: honest about this. There's a lot we do not know. 153 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: But after that story we started with uh, Donald air 154 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: the idea that the d o J will not file 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: charges if they could before the mid terms, that does 156 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: not mean they cannot after the mid terms. Do you 157 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: have a sense though, of this type of case could 158 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: go on for months and months if if not talk 159 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: about this before November twenty four, Are we gonna be 160 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: talking about this before the presidential election? I think we 161 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: will be. But I also think there's another big issue here, 162 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and the other big who is is the rest of 163 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: what Donald Trump did, which, of course is the main 164 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: thing that Donald Trump did, which was trying to steal 165 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: the election, and so the Justice Department has got to 166 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: be They are clearly focusing on that issue, which is 167 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: really the big the biggest thing that he did. I think, 168 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: although you can argue this is this is awfully big. 169 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: So they had a lot to think about in terms 170 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: of putting cases together that are ready for trial, and 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: also how you would combine charges like that, and also 172 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: the timing on which they want to do it. I 173 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: would say that there is getting to be a premium 174 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: on moving with some dispatch because the process of trying 175 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: a case like either one of these is going to 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: take a while. And I think, you know, I think 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: we're at a point now with halfway through almost the 178 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: administration where you know, we don't know where we're headed electorally, 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: and the idea that it's getting to be somewhat urgent 180 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: to proceed, I think is something that deserves a lot 181 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: of consideration. Fascinating. Uh, you know, the the first name 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: that came up when a lot of people heard the 183 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: headline today, it was James Comey. I wonder how much 184 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: his actions regarding Hillary Clinton's emails ahead of a whole 185 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: different presidential election informed the caution that we're seeing now 186 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: with the d o J or was that a one off? 187 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: Was Was that the exception to the to the rule? No? 188 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I think that was I think that was the exception 189 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: to the rule. I think you know, many many people 190 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: watching that at the time knew he was off the 191 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: reservation when he was doing that. That's not something that 192 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: that the Attorney General, let alone ahead of the FBI, 193 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: has any business doing talking about facts in a case 194 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: where there are no charges being brought from But I 195 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: think that, I mean, I think this Justice Department is 196 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: proceeding in just the right way and I and I 197 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: think the leader of this Justice Department, Merrick Garland, is 198 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: totally clear about what's at stake here, and I think 199 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: he is. He is very concerned to proceed in a 200 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: way that any reasonable person will view as even handed 201 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: and fair, but to proceed vigorously and to deal with 202 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: the fact that something has got to be done. Are 203 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: we going to see him in front of a podigum again? 204 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: Will will he hold a news conference when enough pressure builds, 205 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: or have we heard what we're going to hear from 206 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: the Attorney General? Well? I think I think when charges 207 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: are filed, assuming charges are filed, at some point, I 208 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: suspect that he'll be in the middle of that. Whether 209 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: there's going to be a reason for him to come 210 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: forward before that, I think a lot depends upon this 211 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: process that we're in the middle of with back and 212 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: forth with the court in connection with this warrant. I 213 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: mean he got involved in speaking about it because Donald Trump. 214 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump decided to announce that his house had been searched, 215 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: and so at that point this all became public and 216 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland came forward and explained what was going on. 217 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Imagine imagine if we still didn't know. Imagine if Donald 218 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Trump didn't tell us that day, would we still not know? 219 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Donald Ayre great conversation. Always, we learned a lot from 220 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: the former US Deputy Attorney General, just like now he's 221 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: with Georgetown Law School and giving us a clinic today 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: on what we have learned. Will assemble the panel next. 223 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg you sound on 224 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Still no comment on 225 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: any of this by the White House, and we keep 226 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: asking one of the first questions at every news briefing 227 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: at the White House since the FBI searched Tomorrow Lago 228 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Press Secretary Karine Jean Pierre going through the motions again today. 229 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: We're just not going to comment on the investigation, antything, 230 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: any underlying pieces of the investigation, any content of the investigation. 231 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: This is an ongoing, as you all know, investigation that 232 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and independent investigation of the Department 233 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: of Justice is doing. We are not going to politically interfere. 234 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: We are not going to comment on anything connected to 235 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: the investigation. And uh, we're just going to keep it there. 236 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Do you think they're not going to comment. She'll be 237 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: asked again tomorrow and the day after that as well. 238 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: The question an answer will likely remain the same. The 239 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: only person who has answered questions about this Joe Biden. 240 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Actually right, Remember he said he was not tipped off 241 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: zero when he was asked at a completely unrelated event. 242 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: He also uh made a gesture that rolled his eyes. 243 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Thought it was absurd about declassifying all these documents without 244 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: telling anybody. Let's assemble the panel. We haven't had a 245 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: chance to talk to Rick and Jeanie since the filing 246 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: last night. Of course, our signature panel is back together. 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Rick Davis, Genie Chanzano, Bloomberg Politics contributors. Rick, when you 248 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: saw that picture, it just seemed different than reading about 249 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: it in the affidavit on Friday. Yeah. I mean I 250 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: was lucky enough to serve in the White House where 251 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I got to see those covers from time to time, 252 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: and the reality is that I kind of thought that's 253 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: what they were looking at, and see that picture, I thought, 254 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: holy smokes, it's true. I mean, this guy literally just 255 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: brought stuff home from the office and took it down 256 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to a resort. So, uh, he said he had it. 257 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: He said he declassified it, which you know is the 258 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: big question. But the fact that he's admitted to having 259 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: something that doesn't belong to him is the basis for 260 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: I think this entire investigation. He's admitted that he had 261 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: these documents. What's your take, Jennie, Having learned as much 262 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: as we have over the last twelve hours or so, 263 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: there was more information really in that photograph than we 264 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: had read so far in in any other of the 265 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: sort of news dumps, whether it was the War end 266 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: or the affidavit that we had a chance to read. 267 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Even the Time magazine just adds the perfect cherry on top. 268 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: That's right. You know, when Merritt Garland said some time 269 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: ago in his press conference that he was going to 270 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: speak through his court filings. I don't think any of 271 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: us did manage and how much he meant that and 272 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: how well they were going to do that, and the 273 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: fact that they asked for more pages. And this thing 274 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: reads something more of like a you know, a story 275 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: or a script or a narrative than it does a 276 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: legal court filing. And they spoke through their words, they 277 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: spoke through the pictures. Certainly you can't get enough of 278 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: that Time magazine framed covers um and it it speaks 279 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: volumes and that the the you know, absurdity of this 280 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: is that Donald Trump has once again done this to himself. 281 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: And I seldom quote Steve Doocey from Fox News, but 282 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: he said it when he said, you know what, why 283 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: did he have all this stuff there? It can't be 284 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: declassified and nobody knows about it. I mean, these are 285 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: people who are supporters of Donald Trump saying this, so 286 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, it is bad. He has stepped into it, 287 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: and there's literally no defense. A private individual which the 288 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: president is, cannot have these documents and he has no 289 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: legal or factual defense for it, as this filing shows 290 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: reaction from publicans. And granted we're here in the last 291 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: week of August as nobody in town, but reaction has 292 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: been pretty quiet. You know, we were Lindsay Graham has 293 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: been doing his best to stand up for Donald Trump. 294 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell was asked about it today in Kentucky. How 295 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: about short and sweet here, I don't have any observations 296 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: about that, all right. Uh. Ken Buck is the other 297 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: extreme Republican from Colorado. He's on Fox News. Listen to 298 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: the way he gets to this. I don't have any 299 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: observations about that. Here's ken Buck. I understand that that 300 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: former president's former Secretary of States may very well have 301 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: classified information. He may be writing a memoir, he may 302 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: be writing an autobiography. Uh. And the fact that he 303 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: had documents in and of itself isn't a concern. How 304 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: he treated those documents, um and what negotiations occurred with 305 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: the archivist, we just don't know at this point. The 306 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: Congressman doesn't think it's it's even a concern, uh Rick 307 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: to have these documents in his possession. The cover sheets 308 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: would argue with that, Yeah, this is a fact that 309 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: is not debatable. Trump had national defense intelligence material in 310 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: his home. It is criminal to have national defense intelligence 311 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: material in a non federal facility period. That's the law. 312 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: So he maybe ought to take a civics course before 313 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: he runs for office. He is in possession of these documents, 314 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: that's a fact. That's illegal. He put them into the 315 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: hands of people potentially who are not authorized to hold them. 316 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: That's illegal. So I mean, like, when you start really 317 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: peeling back this layer, it's really not as complicated as 318 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: its as it seems. And and one of the documents, 319 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: potentially more may have the identity of foreign agents in it. 320 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: That's like the crown jewel of government secrets. That's illegal. Right, So, um, 321 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: do we hear nothing to Republicans just stop talking about 322 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: this because there was a chorus defending Donald Trump about 323 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: a week ago. Yeah. Look, I think that Mitch McConnell 324 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: represents the vast majority of Republicans who actually have their 325 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: head screwed on, right. I mean, ken Buck Christie know 326 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: him today? All the fetes planted this material. I mean, 327 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: it's it's insane. Nobody's gonna believe them. They're gonna lose 328 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: their credibility and it makes the party look bad. So 329 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: if you have those kinds of views. Just shut up. 330 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: So how about how about democrats Genne do they shut 331 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: up too, because we still don't know what these documents are? 332 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: And is it better just to keep your hands off this? Yeah? 333 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: And can I just add to what Rick said, that's 334 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: all true. Even if you want to write a book, 335 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: you can't use that as a memoir, not not a defense. 336 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I think democrats the White House are 337 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: right to stay out of it. When your enemy is 338 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: clearly shooting themselves in the foot, you don't step into it. 339 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: So I think they should be quiet. The most important 340 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: thing I think that this filing did last night was 341 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: it completely demolished what were Trump's only real defenses, which 342 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: was the defensive privilege and declassification. Both have been shown 343 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: to be untrue. Boy, that's the take from Rick and 344 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: Jennie here on Bloomberg. Sound on. We're going to bring 345 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: in Julianna Goldman as Joe Biden heads back to Philadelphia tomorrow. 346 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: It's next. This is Bloomberg. We were all of course 347 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: on data here at Bloomberg. It's Bloomberg, and so polling 348 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: is part of our coverage when it comes to politics. 349 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: So there might be one number though that just may 350 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: not be worth obsessing over any longer. It's not like 351 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But as Julianna Goldman points out today, 352 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Democrats in Congress and the one in the White House 353 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: for that matter, would love to see the president's approval 354 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: ratings break back above water right heading into the midterms. 355 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: Then again, she says, it might not matter. Is this 356 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: the new normal? Is the question, and she joins us 357 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: now Bloomberg opinion columnist Julianna Goldman, welcome back. Your point, 358 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: I guess is that this country is so divided that 359 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: it's impossible to get a real read on that number. Yeah, 360 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: I mean that's structurally present. We may be in a 361 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: period or an error now where presidential approval ratings are 362 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: just going to be underwater. They're going to be low 363 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: because the country is so divided. And we love data. 364 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: So in this piece, UM, I dug into a lot 365 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: of data, both looking at historical trends and UM presidential 366 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: approval UH poll polls showing Biden's approval ratings you know, 367 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: over the past several months, UM interesting poll recently from Gallup. 368 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: So on the one hand, Biden's approval rating, UM, you 369 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: know has ticked up. It's now at forty. I think 370 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: it was at thirty nine percent or below forty earlier 371 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: in the summer. You know, that's still historically you know, 372 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 1: not that's bad territory for president to be in with 373 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: his party heading into midterm elections. Um. But that was 374 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: the increase was driven by independence so of Democrats. Um. Uh, 375 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: you know that was from of Democrats. Four percent of 376 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Republicans approved. That was unchanged from June. So when we're 377 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: talking about Biden's approval ratings kicking up, it's coming from 378 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: independent voters. Democrats are not going to say you know, 379 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: Democrats might say that they disapprove of Biden, but it 380 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're going to go and vote for a 381 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: Republicans um down ballot and Republicans UM. It's pretty rare 382 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: um like four percent as we see here, that they're 383 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: going to say that they approve of the job of 384 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: the Democratic president. Right. Well, this is fascinating because the 385 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: narrative recently has been about this shifting landscape right going 386 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: into the mid terms that it's been advantage Democrats most recently, 387 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and while Dems may lose the House, it won't be 388 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: by as much and they likely stand a chance to 389 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: actually add to their majority in the Senate. So what 390 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: are you learning about the Democratic brand in your research 391 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: here democratic candidates versus looking at that presidential approval number. Well, 392 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: so the important thing for for Democrats right if you 393 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: if you look at what why the president's party tends 394 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: to lose in mid trim elections, it's because there's damp 395 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: and enthusiasm um the party, the president. Voters of the 396 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: party and power just aren't as keen and excited to 397 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: go uh to go to the polls. But what's happening 398 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: here is that in many ways we're seeing the same 399 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: choice that voters faced in UM when there was when 400 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: we saw historic numbers going to the polls. So if 401 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Democrats have enthusiasm, if they can get more more of 402 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: their voters uh to turn out, that is good for 403 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: Democrats and it helps UM. You know, it bucks the 404 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: historical trend that we've seen tying presidential approval ratings to 405 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: how Democrats, how the president's party is going to do. UM. 406 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, beyond the structural challenges and the divisions that 407 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: we just talked about, you've got criminal investigations into a 408 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: former president. Um, you got far right and extreme extreamist 409 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: candidates on the Republican side. Abortion is a major major 410 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: driver pat for Democrats right now. And guns and so 411 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: as long as Democrats can be having a conversation about 412 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: this and these issues that drive the choice rather than 413 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: this being a referendum on the president. And you see 414 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: this the coupling between the presidential approval rating UM and 415 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: and how Democrats are doing very clearly in some of 416 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: the key Senate races. So, for example, you mentioned Pennsylvania 417 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: were Bating is heading tomorrow. Um. You know he's he's 418 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: not great there, He's at thirty nine all um. But 419 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: John Fetterman is at Fort mement Oz is at for um. 420 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: So that that historical correlation is not there. You can 421 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: see that in Wisconsin and in North Carolina. And so 422 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: this is why John Federman doesn't show up in Wilkes Barry, right. 423 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: It's not going to help him to have Joe Biden 424 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: rub off on them on a stage. He's already doing 425 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: better than Joe Biden, that's right. Yea. How much is 426 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: that going to be the case across the country based 427 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: on the numbers you're looking at, is that going to 428 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: be a trend where Democratic candidates just would really prefer 429 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: the president's stay at the White House. I mean, I 430 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: think that's probably fair to say, Um, you know, they 431 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: don't need Biden there to be you know, to be 432 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: generating support from UM support from Democratic voters. Right, Democratic 433 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: voters aren't looking to Biden to turn out. It's not 434 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: the same way that like, um, uh, you know, a 435 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton in uh in. But he's the one with 436 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the big list of accomplishments. I thought Joe Biden had 437 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: a story to tell. Infrastructure, the ship Bill we got done, 438 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: where my goodness, the Inflation Reduction Act. He's the one 439 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: to take the victory lap, right he does. But you 440 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: know what, he's not on the ballot this year, and 441 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: we're still talking about these um, these deep, deep seated divisions. UM. 442 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: I thought it's interesting also, uh few research just came 443 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: out with a report really showing that Biden isn't a 444 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: factor UM for for voters in particular, like he has 445 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: a sixty disapproval rating UM but Republican voters of Republican 446 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: voters say Biden is not a factor and that's up 447 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: from March eleven points. So yeah, I mean, I think 448 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: I think you'll be seeing UM in in areas where 449 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: there's strong Democrats support UM. Sure be great for the 450 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: president to come and tout the accomplishments. The exception. Yeah, 451 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: I think that's exception, not the rule. It's great work, Juliana, 452 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing it with us. I'll 453 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: point everyone again to the column on the terminal. Biden 454 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: is unpopular, but Democrats aren't. You can put O P 455 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I N go in the terminal and you'll find and 456 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: the list of columns, including Julianna's Bloomberg opinion columnist with 457 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: us on the Fastest Hour in Politics. Helps a lot 458 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: to add a bit of data, and it will help 459 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: more to add the panel as we reassemble our signature 460 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: panel next Rick Davis and Genie Chanzano or with us, 461 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: we'll check traffic and markets on the way. This is 462 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: sound On. I'm Joe Matthew and Washington. This is Bloomberg. 463 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg sound On on Bloomberg Radio. Just got 464 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: details on President Biden's speech for tomorrow. When we say primetime, 465 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: we mean it. He's gonna be talking at eight pm 466 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: Eastern Time, a primetime speech on what the White House 467 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: is calling the continued Battle for the soul of the 468 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: Nation Independence National Historic Park, Philadelphia. It's not his first 469 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: time speaking there. It'll be quite a backdrop, and apparently 470 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: the networks are going to be taking uh this address. 471 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg certainly will at a certain point. You know, presidents 472 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: can run out of favor, but there haven't been too 473 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: many prime timers. Let's reassemble the panel. Jennie Schanzano is 474 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: back with us Rick Davis our signature panel on sound On. 475 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: We heard President Biden yesterday in Wilkes Barry Genie. We 476 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: talked about it as a potential dry run or address 477 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: rehearsal for what we're going to see tomorrow. How does 478 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: he best use this time in a primetime address. It's 479 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: just different. People are not used to sitting down at 480 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: eight o'clock necessarily listening uh to Joe Biden go on 481 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: and on. How efficient does he need to be and 482 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: how bipartisan will his message be? You know, I thought 483 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: his speech yesterday was particularly strong for Joe Biden. I 484 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: think the message is an important one as we you know, 485 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: transition to the general election. UM. I do think he 486 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: is going to try, just like he did yesterday, to 487 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: make case that is um something that is, you know, 488 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: not directed at one sort of group in the Democratic Party, 489 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: say the Progressives, but to try to make a a 490 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: argument that is more appealing across the board. And that's 491 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: going to be one that makes the case that democracy 492 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: is under threat from many quarters, which is appealing to Democrats, um, 493 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: but also to some moderates and independents who are very 494 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: very scared about what we're seeing across the country as 495 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: you move from January six, some of these Mari Lago 496 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: searches and in otherwise he is going to have to 497 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: be careful to not you know, cross too far into 498 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: the attacks. But he was strong yesterday and I think 499 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: we'll see more of that in you can't talk about 500 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: the battle for the soul of the nation without essentially 501 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: criticizing the other party here right. I don't know if 502 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: you saw this speech yesterday, Rick, He's really he seems 503 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: like he's really gearing up for this thing. And it 504 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: was a side of Joe Biden where he starts raising 505 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: his voice that we haven't really mean or heard a 506 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: lot since the campaign trail. In this case, he's talking 507 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: about the victims of families from you've all remembering he 508 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: went down to meet with them when I was recently 509 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: in you've all d me almost as they just say 510 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: that some of the kids are there, you know, some 511 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: of the parents had to do supply DNA. Supply DNA 512 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: is there a fifty just rips the body apart, could 513 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: not identify, could not identify the body a twenty year old. Ka, 514 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: you can walk in and buy one DNA to say 515 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: that's my baby? What the hell is the matter with us? 516 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: You can hear a pin drop there, Rick. You know 517 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, you've worked with him over the years. 518 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Does that play at a national audience tomorrow? Yeah? I look, 519 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: I think if he can um connect with that kind 520 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: of passion and spirit, um, he can't go wrong. Right. 521 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: The biggest gripe about Joe Biden as a speechmaker is 522 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: that he kind of, you know, just babbles along and 523 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: gets off script and you know, you lose your way 524 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: along the path of the speech. And this was really 525 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: clear and really forceful and and and even the rhetoric, 526 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: as grizzly as it was, it did leave an impact. 527 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: As you say, not a not a you can hear 528 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: a pin drop, so um, it'll be interesting to see 529 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: if he can muster that the last guy who gave 530 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: this speech was Barack Obama at his nominating conference convention 531 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: when he said that our democracy was at risk in 532 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: this election. And I suspect he'll take some of the 533 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: themes that Barack Obama had at the time when when 534 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: I think most commentators thought, wow, that's kind of over 535 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: the top, is it really? And we've learned yeah, maybe 536 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: it is so um so, I I think it'll be interesting. 537 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: It's it's obviously a different venue. It's hard to have 538 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: that kind of passion, you know, speaking from the White House. 539 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: It's usually much more formal and uh, and yet I 540 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: think that's probably Joe Biden as best. Yeah, wow, Jennie. 541 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: To Rick's point, a lot of people have made fun 542 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: of this president, criticized him for the sort of you know, 543 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: the low tones in which he speaks. Sometimes the microphones 544 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: have trouble picking him up. Sometimes he gets lost in 545 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: his own words. Uh, he goes off script with the 546 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: ad libbings, coughing. It brings up questions about his age 547 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: and his competency. Who's this guy? I mean, is this 548 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: a matter of napping or is it a matter of 549 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: actually being passionate about what he's talking about you know, 550 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a matter of being the authentic 551 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who we you know, many people saw in 552 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: the election, who seemed to sort of, you know, be 553 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: a little bit off track in that first year to 554 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: a certain extent. And because these are things that Joe 555 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: Biden has long talked about and actually believes in. And 556 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: so I think it's, you know, it's an issue of 557 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: passion here, right, he does get off track, he goes along, 558 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: he you know, he banters, and he's got to be 559 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: careful about that. But he's also got to rely on 560 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: his team for that. And I think this is a 561 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: big test for him. This is going to be a 562 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: peek into the closing argument that the Democrats are going 563 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: to be making as they move into this really, really 564 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: tough election year in which they're likely going to lose 565 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the House and may in fact lose the Senate, but 566 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: they're you know, giving it a really good try. And 567 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: he's going to be leading that charge. Did I say 568 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: the wrong thing with napping? I could use a nap, 569 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: but you know, I mean like a good nice rest rick. 570 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding, I mean, don't you He's 571 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: getting up there in age, we can Okay, Look, it's 572 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: always hard on the president to keep his stamming up 573 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: because he's always over scheduled, and he's always in demand, 574 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: and and and and it's and it's it's hard. I mean, 575 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to be president. Nited states absolutely. That being said, 576 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: these are big moments. They tend to be scripted well 577 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: in advance. You know, the schedule running up to them 578 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: will ensure that he's a maximum performance. Right. I mean 579 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: that's the job of the staff to know, don't overpack 580 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: his schedule that they before and so forth. Right, Yeah, 581 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think the performance side of this, you know, 582 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna know soon you know whether or 583 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: not he was up for this. But I think what's 584 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: really interesting about this is he's stepping away from the accomplishments. Right, 585 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: What ran up his numbers in the last couple of months. 586 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: It's the successes that his administration has had legislatively, by 587 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: and large, And the reality is he's kind of stepping 588 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: away from that and picking a fight with the MAGA 589 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: agenda by saying, you know, there's a better way to 590 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: do public safety my way, there's a better way to 591 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: do democracy my way. I mean, you know, there's a 592 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: way to maintain the rule of law, and and MAGA 593 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: isn't it. And so if this is gonna be a 594 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: big contrast between the Soul of the Nation and MAGA, 595 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: I really I'm curious how he'll weave in what has 596 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: actually been successful. I think if you want a speech 597 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: to give on the eve of the fall election, you 598 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: you talk about what you've been able to accomplished that 599 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: people actually are giving you credit for. I'm guessing we're 600 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: not going to hear in the Battle for the Soul 601 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: of the Nation about the ship acts tomorrow. Genie, Am 602 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: I wrong? No, You're right, And it's a really important 603 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: point Rick makes. I mean, it doesn't sound at least 604 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: what we're hearing like they're going to be stressing this 605 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: list of of really important accomplishments. That said, I think 606 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: what has struck me is the fact that he, you know, 607 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: at for a long time he was sort of trying 608 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: to ignore Donald Trump. Now we see Joe Biden in 609 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: the administration saying, Okay, he's taking up the oxygen. We're 610 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: benefiting from it, and we're going to use it to 611 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: our advantage. We're going to tell you how extreme he 612 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: and his followers are, and how we represent the all 613 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: important middle. And I think we're seeing the Biden administration 614 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: embrace Trump, much to the dismay of Republicans who want 615 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: to win in these purple districts. And so I'm curious 616 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: to see how they keep making that case. We saw 617 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: it last night. I think we see it in Philadelphia 618 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: again over you know on Monday, is primetime a good 619 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: move here? Rick? Just in general? Eight o'clock at night. 620 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Is that the way you talk to the American people 621 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: these days? We asked the same question ahead of the 622 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: prime time January six hearings. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean it's 623 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: still the best way to get you know, an act 624 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: of odd without the filter of the media, right. I 625 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: mean you give a speech during the day, and the 626 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: media filters it, and by the time anybody sees it, 627 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: you're reading about what the media thought about the speech, 628 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: not the speech itself. And so, yeah, he wants to 629 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: go direct to the public, and and it's a way 630 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: to create some excitement. In the past, a lot of 631 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: networks haven't carried these speeches, and so there hasn't been 632 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: a reason to do it, because, you know, if you're 633 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: not gonna go on TV and do it then then 634 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: maybe not. But I guess what I'm hearing is he's 635 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: gonna get coverage. He's gonna get coverage from the networks. Indeed, 636 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I have to admit, Jennie, I was surprised to hear that. 637 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: I thought this would be a cable news event tomorrow night. 638 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: But he hasn't worn out his welcome yet. I don't 639 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: know how many of these you get before they start 640 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: pushing back on the White House. But with that in mind, 641 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: you don't want to wear out your welcome. Does this 642 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: need to be half an hour or less? How does 643 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: he deal with the time has been given. I think 644 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: he needs to make his point. I need to think 645 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: he needs to, you know, be very careful about the time. 646 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: That is the staff's issue. And you're right, you know, 647 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: there's also the line that that he has to be 648 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: careful that this is a presidential address and not a 649 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: campaign speech. Um, you know, yeah, And I just also 650 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: have concerned you know, we just started the semester. I 651 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: speak to students, Um, you have a son. These young 652 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: people don't watch a lot of TV. So in the past, 653 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, primetime speech has got tons of eyeballs I'm 654 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: not so certain if you're trying to reach younger people 655 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: in particular, they're watching that much TV anymore, even worse 656 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: than what Rick said. You know, instead of having the 657 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: media talk about it and sound sound bites for us 658 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: old people, they're gonna have it cut up on TikTok 659 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: by the time Uh. He's back in Washington. Rick. That's 660 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: a whole other problem for campaigns to deal with, not 661 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: that this is a campaign speech, but that's part of 662 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: the issue when you're trying to communicate. Yeah, it's create 663 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: the event and reprogram it for every audience, son of 664 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: the son. Most people will actually see this on their phone. 665 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: And yes, and and so those moments within the speech 666 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: are really critical, right. And then the moments are what 667 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: he's going to have to deliver on like he did 668 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: with that clip that you just played a little while 669 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: ago on Vivaldi. So uh, that's all part of this performance. Uh. 670 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: And the technicians will you know, cutting paces thing and 671 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: breys social media. Uh. Forum in the world. And and 672 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: by the way, the world is going to be listening 673 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: to this speech because they see crazy stuff happening here 674 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: in the United States. I mean, Donald Trump claims you're 675 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna retake the presidency next week, and and foreign leader 676 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: scratch her head and go, what the heck is going 677 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: on over there? And so it's not just a political 678 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: audience that he's trying to address, but he wants to 679 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: make sure that when he shows up at the G twenty, 680 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: people don't like get close to him and say, hey, 681 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: have you guys gone completely crazy? Wow? These are incredible 682 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: times we're living in. Wouldn't you be wanting something without 683 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: Rick and Genie. They help us make sense of it all. 684 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: Our signature panel on sound On. We'll meet back here 685 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: tomorrow right before the speech. I'm Joe Matthew. This is 686 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg