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Speaker 1: in that place. I'm like, okay, so you're using me,

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Speaker 1: got it? I see you. I know who you are.

427
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Speaker 1: That's fine, no big deal, because it's no, it doesn't,

428
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Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't affect my spirit and who I am.

429
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Speaker 1: But I do get bothered by those that you do

430
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Speaker 1: let in and you give more than ten percent and

431
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Speaker 1: you come to find out, like we all get heartbroken.

432
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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, are you not my friend? Or oh

433
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Speaker 1: I really you know? And so I haven't learned to

434
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Speaker 1: turn that part of me off as someone who has

435
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Speaker 1: any kind of platform or any kind of access, because

436
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: if I really right with you, I right with you. Um.

437
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: And it seems to me as of late, as I

438
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: was scrolling on your page and everyone was talking about it,

439
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: you posted that the that twitches depth really bothered you,

440
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: um because he seemed so happy and so light. Um.

441
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: And there are all these things floating around Instagram, the

442
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: people who shine the brightest check on them because they're

443
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: usually saddest. And I don't know if that's necessarily true,

444
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: but that's what we're hearing a lot of um and

445
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that's where I was trying to go

446
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: with this conversation. But you're telling me that you know

447
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: who you are, you know who your people are, you

448
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: know how to move beyond the title that you have.

449
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: How are you able to have your identity outside of actor, comedian,

450
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera. How do you have finesse? My Alfred?

451
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: You know? Is it Alfred is at Lankston Alfred Alfred

452
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Speaker 1: like a butler from Batman. I used to h at

453
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Speaker 1: first idea, how are you Alfred? How are you Alfred?

454
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Speaker 1: And not Finesse? Well, Finesse popped off in college, Um,

455
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to go into the locker room at

456
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Speaker 1: the University of Miami and tell them dud was my

457
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Speaker 1: name was Alfred? Okay, fair, fair, I want nobody coming

458
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: at you. Fair. My name is Deebo. Yeah, going better quick.

459
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: I was actually trying to holler at this a k a.

460
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Speaker 1: As a freshman. It was sort of like that drum

461
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Speaker 1: Line story where I saw the the sorority girl and

462
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: as a freshman, I went up there and try to

463
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Speaker 1: spit game and she smiled and said, so you just

464
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Speaker 1: think you missed the Finesse huh? And I was just

465
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Speaker 1: like and somebody and her girlfriends came over. They said, hey,

466
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Speaker 1: who is this? And she said this Mr Finesse and

467
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Speaker 1: they said hey Finesse and some was just and then

468
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Speaker 1: he came over because they knew her. And then they

469
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: was like they was. They was like, what you're doing

470
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Speaker 1: your babysitting? They was trying to like make a joke

471
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Speaker 1: because I was a freshman, and she said this is Finess,

472
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Speaker 1: y'all and then they said what's up to ness? I

473
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Speaker 1: like that name. And after that I was just like,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm going in this locker room later on the day

475
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: and saying my thank this finest um. But to answer

476
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Speaker 1: your question, it comes with a lot of disappointment. It

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Speaker 1: comes working through a lot of betrayal, a lot of

478
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Speaker 1: disappointment where you say, you know what, I'll grow from this. Well,

479
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Speaker 1: you know what, that didn't hurt as bad as I thought. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Damn, that was messed up. Damn, that

481
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Speaker 1: was just sucked up. But you know what, I'll be

482
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Speaker 1: all right. And then the older you get, you realize

483
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Speaker 1: this things less and less because in business, all you're

484
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Speaker 1: gonna do is be getting for ruth. I mean, you

485
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Speaker 1: know how many times people tell you got a job

486
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they went in another direction

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Speaker 1: and that's all they say. That's the only explanation you

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Speaker 1: We went in another direction, you know, I mean, and

489
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Speaker 1: you're just supposed to accept that. And the professionalism is

490
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Speaker 1: how you accept that bad news because these are the

491
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Speaker 1: same people who are gonna be making phone calls on

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Speaker 1: your behalf the next week. So while are you about

493
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Speaker 1: to go ballistic because them out or you said I

494
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Speaker 1: had the job? I mean, all that stuff you just

495
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Speaker 1: have to learn. And when you step out of yourself

496
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Speaker 1: and like I said, get out of your ego, then

497
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Speaker 1: you realize, oh, guess what. Even when you get the

498
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Speaker 1: job carried, that's when the work start and it becomes

499
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Speaker 1: another job. You know what, how many people say, I

500
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Speaker 1: wish I was on TV, I wish I had your job.

501
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: I wish And you're like, really, every day I'm like, okay,

502
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: come have a seat in the morning, you want to go.

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Speaker 1: You ain't about routine every day and pretend like every

504
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Speaker 1: day and every day and pretend like you're ready to

505
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Speaker 1: even interview somebody. Every day. You got personal ship going on,

506
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: You got people, you get Christmas gifts for you got

507
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: you got hard conversations to have with people that you

508
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: are about to cut them off. This year three is

509
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: a year I'm getting rid of at least dead weight.

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00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: We have to stop right there because we have to

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Speaker 1: pay bills even during the holidays. So fast forward through

512
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: the commercials or listen to them. They may be exciting.

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00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: We will be right back in just a few moments.

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Speaker 1: Every champion and carry champion is to be a Champiana

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Speaker 1: Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappiana Champion and carry

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Speaker 1: Chappion and carry Chappion Fradus and sports. And then the

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Speaker 1: tamming can make it work. Every champion and carry champions

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Speaker 1: to be a Champiana Champion. They carry Champion the champion,

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Speaker 1: they carry Champion and carry champions and sports. And then

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Speaker 1: the taming can make you thank you for paying attention

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Speaker 1: in and sticking around here is more with Vanesse Mitchell.

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00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: But all that stuff weighs on you. Because I realized

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: in twitchest situation, man, I felt that dude was so happy.

524
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: I mean, all you had to do was go to work,

525
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Speaker 1: play a couple of records, dance a bad dance, dance

526
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Speaker 1: because that's what you love to do. It's not like

527
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: you're tap dancing. That's what you love to do so

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00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: much so that even in your spare time you're dancing

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Speaker 1: with your wife and your family. You're still doing routines.

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Speaker 1: Your house looked amazing, your family is beautiful. So why

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Speaker 1: hell on earth would while on earth with this happen

532
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Speaker 1: and if it and if it did happen to you

533
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Speaker 1: for the reasons that we speculate, what does that say

534
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: about somebody like me or somebody like you know? I

535
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: got a friend that owes me money Gary, and I'm

536
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: so sitting to personal with me money, but I keep

537
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: giving this person money. And it got to the point

538
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: where I didn't hear from the person, and my anger

539
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: went to concern. Then after I finally heard from the person,

540
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: not because they were ducking me, but I knew they

541
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: were stressed, and and and I and I had to

542
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: call around and check the temperature with people that also

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Speaker 1: know the person. They're like, yeah, this person undisappeared. So

544
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: now my anger went to to concern, and I realized,

545
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: you know what, there was not enough money for me

546
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: to one day get a phone call that something bad

547
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: happened to this person. So let me check my temperature

548
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: and then you know, I'll deal with it accordingly. But

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Speaker 1: it sometimes you just have to take a step back

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00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: and say, man, even if things are going great for

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00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: me right now, at this moment in time, I knew

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00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: all my ups and downs. I knew who I had

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00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: around me when things were super lower, and that one

554
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: phone call that term my attitude around that made me think, Okay,

555
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a better day to mall. I mean,

556
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: sometimes people just don't want that. And maybe in Twitter's

557
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: moment of me, he just didn't have that right phone

558
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: call but didn't know who to call because people always

559
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: think things are great. And I just thought that was

560
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: devastating because you could tell he literally made nothing out

561
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Speaker 1: of something and and when he made everyone happy around him.

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00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: There's not a person in the circle of circles that

563
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Speaker 1: we live in the folks here in l A like

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Speaker 1: the life that we know. It's not someone he hasn't touched.

565
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Speaker 1: D Wade. Dwayne Wade was considered. Perhaps they offered him

566
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Speaker 1: the Ellen de General Show, and he didn't really want

567
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Speaker 1: to do it because he got He said he had

568
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Speaker 1: other things going on. I'm not speaking out of turn.

569
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Speaker 1: He had other things going on. He wanted to do

570
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Speaker 1: with his family and friends. But he was like that

571
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Speaker 1: man lit my life up when I was there. Um,

572
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: it was fun, it was light, and it was his

573
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Speaker 1: his purpose, what he wanted. And he was like, today

574
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: is such a sad day. And then I think, well,

575
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Speaker 1: as a man, and I don't know, I don't know

576
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Speaker 1: the reasons. We never really know the reasons if you

577
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: can't provide, Let's say, if it was about you know,

578
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't provide for his family. How tough is that

579
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: for a man. If you can't provide for your family,

580
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: I think, uh, if you give a damn, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's probably, like, you know, the majority of the stress

582
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: on your life. Because one thing about finances, it definitely

583
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: trickles into every aspect of a relationship. You forget why

584
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you fell in love, you forgot why you got married

585
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: in the first place. You're having kids now, but now

586
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: you're looking at the kids like a burden instead of

587
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: a blessing. So finances definitely weighs such a huge option.

588
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just such a huge portion of your life.

589
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: Because one thing we do as men, and I'm not

590
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna say black man. I'm just gonna say men period.

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00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: That's why I said man. I that's exactly I didn't

592
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Speaker 1: go black. I said a man, period. Yeah, one thing

593
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Speaker 1: about men actually, in any form of entertainment, we just

594
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: live beyond our means. You know that this is me speculating. Okay,

595
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not thinking. I'm thinking, how blessed twitches to

596
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: have a house with those type of windows. I've always

597
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: wanted those sliding glass doors, the whole that's wait, wait

598
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: a second. You were watching social media, and that's what

599
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Speaker 1: you thought we would watching social media? Really when when

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Speaker 1: I was watching, when I was watched Twitch dance and

601
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Speaker 1: he'd be at the house, I would say, he has

602
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Speaker 1: a beautiful home. Oh well, we are that that movable

603
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Speaker 1: wall where it just the whole wall opens up to

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Speaker 1: our I want you know. But then say, if it's

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Speaker 1: a situation where you're thinking, can't somebody can't provide a

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00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: we don't know Twitter's contract to be Ella's co host,

607
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: we don't know how much money Twitch was making. But

608
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Speaker 1: then what if you bought a two point five million

609
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Speaker 1: dollar home. And now you're and and now your your

610
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: your mortgages is almost twenty grand a month. And that's

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Speaker 1: easy to do out here in l A. That's easy

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Speaker 1: to do to have a mortgage is fifteen k month?

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Speaker 1: What if? What if? But what if he was struggling

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Speaker 1: just with mental health? Yeah, that's what if? What if

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00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: all that? What if finances played a factor? What what

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Speaker 1: if just his mental health was it was just all

617
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: mental health dates? You know, what if the reason Ellen

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00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: told him I love you every time after a show

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00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: was because she knew he was struggling with something. But

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Speaker 1: she only knew that because he actually got to know

621
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Speaker 1: him personally. You know, he just wasn't the guy who

622
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Speaker 1: who's my DJ? Because I know a lot of people

623
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Speaker 1: who pick a co host just because demographics say, yeah,

624
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: now we need a black male since you're a white woman,

625
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: or now since you're a white male host, we need

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Speaker 1: a black musical director. Just to bringing that happens all

627
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Speaker 1: the time out here. That makes Really it's just because

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Speaker 1: I'll see each other every day. Was super. Now, now

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Speaker 1: let's flip it with Ellen. Ellen dot looked like she

630
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Speaker 1: had the greatest days every day either you know, she

631
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Speaker 1: ten years ten ten plus years in her show to

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Speaker 1: the point where we're here rooms, oh ells being mean

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00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: to her stat she looks like the light of light

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Speaker 1: on TV. You know, so you just never know out here,

635
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Speaker 1: you know, you never know. In this I was gonna say,

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00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you never know, and

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Speaker 1: and and so and so. Back to the original thought

638
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: was as a comedian as anyone, but anybody with the

639
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: platform I'm talking about you, anyone with the platform where

640
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: you you're you're your access, your life, your your resources

641
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: are are really dependent sometimes on someone just thinking you're

642
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: the one. It's so subjective and and and and it's

643
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: so um it could hurt your ego, like someone has

644
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: to choose you and say you are the one, and

645
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: rejection is um. It's tough, it's hard, and you seem

646
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: to have balanced it so well. And it's this identity piece.

647
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: You're more than just the titles that go behind your name.

648
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: If someone's introducing you on the show, right somebody, somebody said,

649
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: man for that, you're doing it, and I said, I'm

650
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: doing it. He said, man, you're doing everything he said

651
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you was gonna do. And I said, I am because

652
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm not. I'm not because I used to

653
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: always say, you know, I want to be Will Smith

654
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: running down the street, you know, with the gun and

655
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: bad boys, like I want to be that guy. And

656
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: then you know, certain people in Hollywood will say, yeah,

657
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: but we got that guy. Until they've done with that guy,

658
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: we don't need another that guy, you know, And then

659
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: they will go down the hierarchy from Will Smith to

660
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx two people who have a comedic background, from

661
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: the Mike Epps to whoever, you know. Even if they

662
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: don't choose the comedic actor, then they'll choose a real

663
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: actor and give them funny stuff to say and long behold, look,

664
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: we didn't know he was that funny. But they're not

665
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna let too many black male comedians be the Will Smith,

666
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: you know. And so you're kind of waiting your turn

667
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: or or you're gonna self produce. And before all this,

668
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, social media and everything else, it wasn't hard.

669
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: It was it was super hard to self producing, self

670
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: finance or fine financing for your own projects and movies.

671
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna go anywhere. So you know, yeah, you'd

672
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: be frustrated. But I think that Um, this dude who

673
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: came up to me and he was talking to me

674
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: about all my accomplishments. He was like, yeah, you said

675
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: he was gonna marry a badass woman and help and

676
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: help a family and look at you man, every time

677
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: you post your family that he did it and it

678
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: totally Harry redirected my thinking because I was like, yeah,

679
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I did say I'm a coming l A and married

680
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: badass woman to have some keep you know what I mean?

681
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I was saying that, and he he he attributed that

682
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: to success for me because I had said that's what

683
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: would make me happy at that time. Then I had

684
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: to go back and said, you know what, so it's

685
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: not about running down the street in a movie with

686
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: a gun and being blockbuster a list starr, because for me,

687
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: it was always about I know I'm gonna do this

688
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: commedy ground for a long time. But that relationship ship

689
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: that is the that is the ship that tripps ep

690
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: mebody up. So how did you find the right person

691
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: out here in l A who would be that rock

692
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: through all those disappointments and all those wins, but stay

693
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: consistently loving you and consistently lifting you up and give

694
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: you some kids, and you guys be able to parent

695
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: together and work through problems together and where you don't

696
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: switch up on each other and you actually put in

697
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the work to do better and get better as as

698
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: individuals and then as a and for me, I realized

699
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: that I have found that, and so it does make

700
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: it easier when there's a no or they went in

701
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: another direction, phone calls or god. But you know what though, Finesse,

702
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: that's not it. That's not enough for some people. Yeah,

703
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: but I'm not them. I gotta worry about me and

704
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: that in that in that regard because I just but

705
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: that's the right but that's the right attitude to have,

706
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: and I hate that that that's not enough for some people.

707
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: That's the that's the way you have to look at life.

708
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: That's all that matters one it's all said and done

709
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, is your family, people

710
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: who love you. You. I mean, I don't know anybody

711
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: anybody who can be on top of this world in

712
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: this business. You can be on camera and you can

713
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: only espion. But if you get that phone problem that

714
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: some so passed away, you're just as human as body else.

715
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Student until away for funeral, you gotta plan something. You

716
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: gotta fight with them cousins who told you you thought

717
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: you're too good for the family. You've been giving Christmas

718
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: all you shot shot every champion and carry champion is

719
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: to be a champion, a champion and carry chappion and

720
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: carry chapion. A champion and carry Chappion and carry Champion

721
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: raiders and sports. And then the taming can make you work.

722
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: Harry Champion and carry champions to be a champion, a champion,

723
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: they carry Champion, the Champion, they carry Champion and carry

724
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: chappionids and sports, and then the taming can make you work.

725
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: I think the what you're saying to me makes sense,

726
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: and I was I've been trying to like a lot

727
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: of people, and then maybe some of this stuff just

728
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: doesn't need to make s I've been trying to make

729
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: sense of what I thought. And we say this all

730
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: the time about social media. It's not real. What you

731
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: see on social media isn't real. And when I have

732
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: you here, oh, it's a perfect timing. I could ask him.

733
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: He's a performer. He makes people laugh, and you bring

734
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: people joy. You um, people look at you and think, okay,

735
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: he's funny. He's happy all the time. And I just

736
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's just my wife. My wife called me

737
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: raw raw, like I'm talking to raw raw, you know,

738
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like like raw raw Okay, like that right, okay,

739
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: like raw roll like raw raw, like you know, yeah,

740
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: like don't bring raw Rob over here today, because you know,

741
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: sometimes the human side of me is that I do

742
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: get upset and I do get disappointed, and you do

743
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: try to take it out sometimes on the people closest

744
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: to you or next to you in the moment, and

745
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: she like, don't bring don't bring raw Roll over here,

746
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, yeah, you're right. But you know,

747
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: when you temper that that that personality, that side of

748
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: your personality and directed in the in the right toward

749
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: the right people or just in the right direction, you

750
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: do get things done. You don't want to be, you know,

751
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: somebody difficult to work with, but sometimes you gotta let

752
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: people know exactly what you want and exactly where you going,

753
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: and if they can't help you get there, you get

754
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: out of my way or stop pretending because I ain't

755
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: playing it, you know. And so yeah, I make you laugh.

756
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: But that's the show part. The business part is to

757
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: put me in a position to make more people laugh

758
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: or to make more people feel my impact. Because you know,

759
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: I got things I want to accomplish. I need people

760
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna help you do that. You know, if I'm

761
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 1: doing all the work, I don't, really that's gonna kiss

762
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: me on because you're not doing what you said you're

763
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna do. Yeah, and that's when rock come out as

764
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: everybody should have a ro ro Rose. Everybody shove a

765
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: ro rod because you're gonna protect my interest while I'm

766
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: up here making people laugh and feel good. I need

767
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: somebody to protect my interests. You ain't gotta tell me

768
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, So I here's my my last question

769
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: for you, m H. What advice do you have for

770
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: those who are trying to get into the business, who

771
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: are currently at the beginning stages of being in this

772
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: business in the way in which you live, actor, comedian, entertainer,

773
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: what what advice do you have for them to protect

774
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: their mental And you talked about your family, is that

775
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: the key get you a good family, get you a

776
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: good group of people that love you. How do they

777
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: need a family? Don't have to be related to that's one.

778
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: Got to get you some good people who see the

779
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: vision and they're honest enough to say that shirt. Don't

780
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: go with them pains. You can't be around people who

781
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: say you're killing it every outfit you put off there

782
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: ain't because it's not true. It's not true. It's gonna

783
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: kill it every single time you step out of the

784
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: house if you're the only one picking out outfits. So

785
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: you gotta be around some people that say them shoes,

786
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. Do them shoes and back you'd

787
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, okay. And you have to be

788
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: willing to not go to the default of you hating. No,

789
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: they ain't. They knew you when you can never so

790
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: while all of a sudden, are they're hating, they're not hating.

791
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: So I think if you want to get into this business, hey,

792
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: you can't be the smartest person on your team m

793
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: hm be. You have to surround yourself with people who

794
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: see the vision, who're gonna support you, especially emotionally. Um,

795
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: you have to plan out financially how you are going

796
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: to survive when ship is not working as fast as

797
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: you wanted to work. You have to have a plan.

798
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: You have to have a job. You have to have

799
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: some sort of nine to five or something that's gonna

800
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: sustain you until the side hustle becomes the main hustle,

801
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: and then after that you have to always think at

802
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: least six months ahead. You've gotta plant sees that you

803
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: think are not going to be cultivated six until six

804
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: months later. But if you keep planting them, stuff just

805
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: start flowing. And when you start saying, heyy he on everything,

806
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: that's because he doesn't build through relationships. Two years three

807
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Y is four years back. And sometimes those lunches and

808
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: meetings and people that you take time to say what's

809
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: up to it means the world to them. You was

810
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: just saying what's up. But sometimes those people get into

811
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: positions where it just helps you out out. Never I

812
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: was doing an ABC pilot and at the table from

813
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers Studios. Everybody's at this b room and we're

814
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: reading the pilot and the kid who was playing the

815
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: little boy in the pilot, he was not a little boy,

816
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: but he's playing a very vital role in the show.

817
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: He came up to me and he said who was that?

818
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: And he showed me his phone and it was a

819
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: picture of me and him, but it was from like

820
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: five years ago, and I'm like that you he said

821
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: at the Chicago improv I waited in a line to

822
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: do the meet and greet and to speak to you.

823
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: He said, you took a picture with me. You gave

824
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: me advice. You told me just to keep going, surround

825
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: myself around some good people. And I cannot believe we're

826
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: on the same show. And I looked at him car

827
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I must be sucking up

828
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: if you called up to me that face. Damn you

829
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: already in the same room with me. It took me

830
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: twenty years of getting this room. But right, But yeah,

831
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: I say all that to say that, But if people

832
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: follow those five stuff, that's a damn good start. And

833
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: if you're in and if you're in stand up comedy,

834
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: there's really not much you can say that's original. It's

835
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: all been said. So try your best to tell your

836
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: story on stage, because that's the way you'll stand out.

837
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: Solid advice. I'm taking it for myself. I'm gonna use

838
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: it for myself. Do that and look at you and

839
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: be like her, are you killing it? I see you everywhere.

840
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: And if this door closes, you open you open it up.

841
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: This dooring you're going down this lonely. But I do

842
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's what we all do. We

843
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: all figure ways to figure it out, to continue to

844
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: do what we love. I think, I think you said

845
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: something really important and I you know, and I don't

846
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: expound or expand and said and said rap of it is.

847
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: It's the relationships that you nurture. I think in this

848
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: in any business, but this one in particular, it's about

849
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Speaker 1: how you how you treat people, how you handle them,

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Speaker 1: how they they remember how you made them feel that

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Speaker 1: um and for me, I don't remember certain relationships. So

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Speaker 1: now I have my own show on Amazon and I

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Speaker 1: didn't and it came to me just like this, Hey,

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Speaker 1: my agent called me. They want to give you your

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Speaker 1: own show on Amazon. They're starting a new sports network.

856
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Speaker 1: So it's Monday through Friday, and I was like, what what?

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Speaker 1: Who is they? There's an executive by the name of

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Speaker 1: so and so. When I'm like, executive, he used to

859
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Speaker 1: come on my show and he used me, what are

860
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Speaker 1: you talking about? He's on? He was an on air

861
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Speaker 1: personality who I used to like, come on the show

862
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: all the time because he wanted to talk about the

863
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz when they didn't really matter, and I would

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Speaker 1: do it. I would like fine because his wife was

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Speaker 1: from Utah. I used to make fun of him because

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Speaker 1: he was just just ridiculous, not to ridiculous, be careful

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Speaker 1: edited that out. Um. So he ended up being an

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Speaker 1: executive at this production company and he never forgets how

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Speaker 1: I made him feel because I just want to offer

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Speaker 1: her a show. I think she'd be great on this network.

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Speaker 1: What Now, that's the example of that ten percent. It

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Speaker 1: he wasn't a part of that ten percent. He didn't

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Speaker 1: care that I wasn't on ESPN Money through Friday anymore.

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Speaker 1: He cared about who I was and how I made

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Speaker 1: him feel, and what he thought about me, and how

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Speaker 1: kind of was him in passing and the work that

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Speaker 1: we would always talk about. And I always tell people like,

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Speaker 1: just be your true authentic self, the ra ra right

879
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: and the finesse of it, all of that, I show

880
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Speaker 1: everybody all of that. I don't hide it, um. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's how you you were main working in

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Speaker 1: this business and and and everybody's not gonna have a

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Speaker 1: story about how they like you, but they will have

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Speaker 1: a story about how they respect how hard you work

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Speaker 1: and what you made them feel when you did work

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Speaker 1: with them. Uh. And so I use that going forward.

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Speaker 1: I try to always plant the seeds. You gave solid advice.

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest takeaway, though, is that I appreciate

889
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Speaker 1: you saying you know your identity outside of who you are.

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Speaker 1: It took me a while to learn that, and you

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00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: knew you I was. I know my identity outside of

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Speaker 1: who people think I That's the key well said with

893
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Speaker 1: that almost wrap, because that was perfect Fanessa don Dada,

894
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Speaker 1: I forgot that that was my screen man. And that's

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Speaker 1: why you're like, why she keeps saying that, I look,

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Speaker 1: I'm so ignorant. It's fine. Thank you for coming on naked.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you for the invite. And it

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00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: was absolutely one of those times carry at one of

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Speaker 1: those DSPN events when I went up to you and

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Speaker 1: I said something. You were very sweet and very pleasant

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Speaker 1: and I was just cool and so to see your

902
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: name pop up years later life, would you like, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I would like to be on our show. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, because I received it like you said,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it comes full circle about the smallest

906
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: interaction could lead to something bigger later than the road

907
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: never know. And now we're friends. So now I'm missing

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00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: you and but what happen. We'll have drinks at the

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00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: next event. Now, alright again, I love Finestra joining us.

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Speaker 1: I by the time you are listening to this, will

911
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Speaker 1: be believe it or not, in Ghana. I'm going to Africa.

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Speaker 1: I'm in Africa. By the time you listen to this,

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Speaker 1: I'm in Africa. So don't at me. You can at me.

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Speaker 1: I'll still be on social media. But I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Ghana for the holidays. That sounds very fancy. But every

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Speaker 1: time I go to Ghana, I usually try to go

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Speaker 1: around this time. This is my second time going, but

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Speaker 1: I try every year within the last like three or

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Speaker 1: four years, I try to go to Ghana. Um because

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Speaker 1: there is something about going to the motherland. If you

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Speaker 1: ever get the opportunity to go to the motherland, it

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Speaker 1: settles you. It reminds you of your purpose. It also

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Speaker 1: reminds you of your power. I know that we spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of time on social media and other places,

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Speaker 1: saving our money to go to all of these quote

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Speaker 1: unquote exotic places, London, Europe, st Bar, It's Tahiti, all

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Speaker 1: the things you think you should go to, Egypt, all

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Speaker 1: the things you see on social media. But where you

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Speaker 1: should actually be is spending and saving all of your

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Speaker 1: money to go to visit your homeland, whatever that may be.

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Speaker 1: And for me, according to three in Me, my DNA says,

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Speaker 1: my ancestors are there in West Africa, and that's where

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Speaker 1: I go and it has been amazing. And I I

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Speaker 1: know that by the time that you hear this, I

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Speaker 1: will be in full throws of learning more about my

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Speaker 1: ancestors and the heritage UM and the strength of of

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00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: our people, of my people. And so I'm grateful UM

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Speaker 1: as we head into the new year that I have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to do that. I encourage you even if

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Speaker 1: you can't, you know, get up and go to Africa

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. That's not a trip everybody can make. I'm aware.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to sound privileged and unaware. I do

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Speaker 1: encourage you to take this time if you have time off,

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Speaker 1: to do a little soul searching. Talk to the people

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Speaker 1: you love, find friends that are like family, hang out

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Speaker 1: with your family if you love being with your family,

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Speaker 1: But do a little soul soul searching during the holidays. UM,

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00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: don't feel the pressure to to not explore who you are, uh,

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Speaker 1: just because you feel like you need to buy presents

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00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: and hang out. That's not what the holidays are for.

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00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: So that's just my advice to you um as we

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00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: try to make sense of this crazy, senseless world that

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Speaker 1: we live in. I really do appreciate you for listening

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. Thank you so much for tuning in,

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Speaker 1: and I will talk to you all next year. I've

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00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: been dying to say that I taught to you all

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Speaker 1: next year. Have a good one.