1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Debacurate podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Tuesday, the twenty fourth of September. Here 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: in London. I'm Caroline Hepkip. Coming up today. Israeli air 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: strikes on Lebanon kill hundreds of people in the deadliest 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: day of fighting in nearly two decades. China's Central Bank 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: throws the kitchen sink at the economy in a bid 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: to hit their annual growth target. Plus talk of light 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel, kits Darma tries to 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: reset the narrative with his party conference speech. After a 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: bruising few weeks in power, Let's start with a roundup 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: of our top stories. Nearly five hundred people have been 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: killed after Israel launched air strikes on targets across southern Lebanon. 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: The strikes are a major escalation, just days after an 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: attack in which pages and walkie talkies owned by HESBEL 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: and members exploded across the country. In a video message, 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the people of Lebanon 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: that his country's war is not with them. 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: But with Hesbelah, the idea has warned you to get 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: out of harm's way. I urge you take this warning seriously. 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: Don't let his balain danger your lives and the lives 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: of your loved ones. 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Don't let his balain danger Lebanon. 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Despite Netanyahu's message, the Lebanese Health Ministry said around one 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: hundred women and children were among the dead. Israel says 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: many of those killed were members of Hesbelah and argue 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: that the group has placed rocket launchers in private homes. 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: The strikes were the deadliest since the two thousand and 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: six war between the two sides, and comes as the 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: US said that it will send a small number of 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: additional troops to the Middle East. China has unleashed an 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: unprecedented stimulus drive in a bid to its annual growth 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: goal of five percent. The Central Bank cut the amount 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: that lenders must hold in reserves to the lowest level 35 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty and reduced a key policy rate. A 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: package to shore up the Chinese property market was also unveiled, 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: including lowering boring costs on as much as five point 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: three trillion dollars in mortgages and easing rules on second 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: home purchases. Grace Tam, chief investment advisor at BNP Paribao 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Wealth Management, Hong Kong, says further support is expected. 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: What happened today, I think it actually rates are the 42 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: expectations of more coming, especially for today. It's more on 43 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 3: the monetary side, and I think market would expect there 44 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: will be more announcement on. 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: The fiscal side. BNP Paribas Grace Tam speaking there. The 46 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: People's Bank of China chief Pangong Sheng also said that 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: China will unlock at least eight hundred billion Yu one 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: or one hundred and third thirteen billion dollars of liquidity support, 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: allowing securities firms, funds, and brokers to buy stocks to 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: the US. Now, Federal Reserve officials they're leaving the door 51 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: open to additional large rate cuts after last week's outsized 52 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: half point reduction. Policymakers speaking at multiple events stress that 53 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: they're undecided on what they will do at the next 54 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: FED policy meeting, and incoming data will guide their decisions. However, 55 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: the Chicago Fed President Austin Goulesby did say that rates 56 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: need to be loaded significantly to protect the US labor 57 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: market and support the US economy. 58 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: If conditions continue like this, there are a lot of 59 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: cuts to come over the next twelve months. There's virtual 60 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 5: unanimity about that. So whether the next one is twenty 61 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: five or fifty or zero or whatever, my view is, 62 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: over the next twelve months, we have a long way 63 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: to come down to get the interest rate to something 64 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: like neutral, to try to hold the conditions where they 65 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 5: are well. 66 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: Goolesby isn't a regular voter on rate decisions. This year, 67 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: he participates in monetary policy deliberations. Gilesby said that he 68 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: supported the Fed's decision last week to lower rates by 69 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: a half percentage point. That's a message that was echoed 70 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: in separate comments by the Minneapolis Fed president Near Kashkari 71 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: and also by Atlanta's Raphael Bostick. It's emerged that Berkley's 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: and Bank of America helped UniCredit build its stake in 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: commertz Bank. Bloomberg understands that Barkley's arranged derivatives linked to 74 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: commerts Bank for the Italian lender, and alongside Bank of America, 75 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: helped the firm to expand its holding to the current 76 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: level of about twenty one percent. UniCredit CEO Andrea Orchell 77 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: also used a government placement to acquire a four and 78 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: a half percent stake, a move that the German government 79 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: disapproved of. Berlin announced on Friday that it is suspending 80 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: comments bank share sales until further notice. London has been 81 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: struggling with the dearth of IPOs and locally listed companies 82 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: leaving for New York recently, but a new survey by 83 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: broker Deutsche new Miss shows some reasons to be optimistic. 84 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: New Miss surveyed one hundred and fifty executives and directors 85 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: at London listed companies. Eighty seven percent said that the 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: UK is an attractive market now to list or raised capital. 87 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: Forty two percent said that they expect IPOs to increase 88 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: dramatically in the next couple of years, especially from foreign 89 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: issuers listing in London. Respondents said that the government should 90 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: now prioritize streamlining corporate governance requirements and encouraging pension funds 91 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: to invest in local stocks. Speaking of the UK, Kirstarma 92 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: will attempt to reset the tree's political narrative as he 93 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: addresses his Labor Party conference today. The Prime Minister is 94 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: expected to say that taking tough economic decisions now will 95 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: allow the government to deliver its key objectives. Chancellor Rachel 96 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Reeves also conveyed an upbeat message about Breton's growth prospects 97 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: in her remarks at the event in Liverpool yesterday. 98 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: It will be a budget with real ambition, our budget 99 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: to fix the foundations, our budget to deliver the change 100 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: that we promise, our budget to rebuild Britain, and my 101 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: budget will keep our manifesto commitments. Every choice we make 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: will be within a framework of economic and. 103 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Discal stability, Rachel Reeves, speaking there. Keir Starmer's speech comes 104 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: amidst criticism that his administration's gloomy economic messaging has exacerbated 105 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: the UK's financial challenges. According to a survey by S 106 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and P, global corporate leaders are still awaiting detail on 107 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: economic policy, particularly the budget, with some putting off investments 108 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: in the meantime. Want to get back to our top story. 109 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: This morning, Israel has launched air strikes on targets across 110 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: southern Lebanon. Nearly five hundred people have been killed and 111 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: some one thousand, six hundred and fifty injured. This according 112 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: to the figures from the Lebanese Health Ministry. It is 113 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: one of the deadliest days of fighting in nearly two decades, 114 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: and it increases the fears of an all out war 115 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Joining me now in the radio 116 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: studios Bloomberg's Horizons Middle East anchor Jumana Bassecci, Good morning, Jamana, 117 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: thank you for being with me. We had seen strikes 118 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: focused around the border area that the border between Israel 119 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: and Lebanon. This is a dramatic escalation between Israel and 120 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Hezbolah what has been happening. 121 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. So as you said, it was the 122 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 6: deadliest a day in Lebanon, not just since October seven, 123 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 6: but since the two thousand and six Lebanon Israel war 124 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 6: that lasted over a month. Over the course of the 125 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 6: day yesterday, Israel launched at several attacks across targets in 126 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 6: southern Lebanon the eastern Bika Valley. Typically these are areas 127 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 6: where Hezbala have military infrastructure. Now, by the end of 128 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 6: the day, the Lebanese Health Ministry said that nearly five 129 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 6: hundred people had been killed, including fifty eight women and 130 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: thirty five children. One thousand, six hundred and fifty people 131 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 6: had been wounded. The Israeli military say that they had 132 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 6: hit one thousand three hundred Hesbala targets across the country, 133 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 6: and that many of the people killed were actually members 134 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 6: of the Lebanese militia Hezbala, because the group had placed 135 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 6: rocket launchers into people's private homes. This is per the 136 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 6: Israeli military now. Earlier in the day, the IDEF had 137 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 6: left messages to Lebanese citizens warning them to leave their 138 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 6: homes and to take the warning seriously. But many Lebanese 139 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 6: people didn't know where to go. This is not a 140 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 6: country that has bomb shelters, and so a lot of 141 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 6: panic and chaos ensued. There were traffic jams hours long 142 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 6: from the southern part of the country all the way 143 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 6: back up to Beiru, panic and fear prevailing. In return, 144 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 6: the Hesbalah throughout the day says it carried out another 145 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 6: missile attack on some targets in north of Haifa in Israel, 146 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 6: according to its telegram account, saying that they attacked the 147 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 6: Rama David airbase, but of course many of those rockets 148 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 6: were intercepted. The point is yesterday was an extremely deadly 149 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 6: day and it doesn't appear that there are any signs 150 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 6: of letting up on either side at this front. 151 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: This is an aerial campaign against Hezbolon and Hesbolo against 152 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: as you say, parts of Israel. Is a ground invasion imminent. 153 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 6: That's one of the big questions that people are asking. 154 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 6: But if you speak to some experts on the ground, 155 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 6: they tell you that there are no indications as of 156 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 6: yet that Israel is preparing itself for an actual ground offensive. 157 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 6: As so far they have limited the conduct of the 158 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: war to air strikes, but there are no signs of 159 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 6: reserves being called up. And even though there have been 160 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 6: some redeployments to the North part of Israel, so far 161 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 6: they're acting in a defense capacity for now. If you 162 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: listen to the language coming out of the Israeli Prime Minister, 163 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 6: out of the Defense Minister, you have gallant. It appears 164 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 6: as though the air strikes on key Hesbala assets are 165 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 6: going to continue. And then also what they have said, 166 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 6: and again this is language from the Israeli military put 167 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 6: forward yesterday, They said that up to fifty percent of 168 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 6: Hesbala's capabilities and infrastructure has been degraded. In addition to that, 169 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 6: they also claim that all of the elite commanders of 170 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 6: the Red one fighting Force, those are the senior commanders 171 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 6: that surround the Secretary Channel Hassan Asela have also been 172 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 6: killed as well. This is not being confirmed by Hesbalah. 173 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: Why is this escalation happening now, do you think? 174 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 6: I think again. You have to go back to the 175 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: language that the Israeli officials have used in the last 176 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 6: few weeks. And clearly, if you listen to what the 177 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 6: Defense minister said, you have gallant. They see the center 178 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 6: of gravity of the war as having moved to the north. 179 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 6: The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natagne, who on the day 180 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 6: of those explosion explodes SIF attacks that the telecommunications devices 181 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 6: blowing up last Tuesday was only a week ago. That 182 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 6: same day, he announced a new war objective, and the 183 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 6: war objective was to allow residents in northern Israel to 184 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 6: return homes. And remember there are over sixty seventy thousand 185 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 6: families that have left the northern border since October seven, 186 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 6: and since that daily exchange of rocket fire between Hesbalah 187 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 6: and Israel, and a similar situation in southern Lebanon as well, 188 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 6: you have more than one hundred and two hundred and 189 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 6: thirty thousand families also being forced to evacuate. So there 190 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 6: is a vacuum on both sides of the border. And 191 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 6: what some people are saying, and again this is an 192 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 6: expert view, is that what Israel looking to do here 193 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 6: is to escalate once more in order to de escalate 194 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 6: and to get Hesbella to come round to agreeing to 195 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 6: put down their arms and to stop the exchange and 196 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 6: the firing of rockets into northern Israel. 197 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: This also comes with the backdrop of the UN General 198 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Assembly which begins today in New York. Iran's new president 199 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: will be there, also the Israeli delegation and the outgoing 200 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: US president, so this could also be a very important moment. 201 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 6: It could have been a big opportunity. It would just 202 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 6: point out the Lebanese Prime Minister Council Tis trips, so 203 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: he's no longer going. The Israeli Prime Minister Nottanaho is 204 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 6: still expected to make a trip towards the end. 205 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: Of the week. 206 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 6: He's expected to give a speech either Thursday or Friday. 207 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: It has not been confirmed given everything that has been 208 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 6: going on, but this was meant to be a longer 209 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 6: trip for him. He obviously cut it short or made 210 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 6: it shorter. The US, meanwhile, is still very much focused 211 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 6: on breaking this escalatory cycle. Their urging restraints for all 212 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 6: parties involved, and you did mention the Iranian President Pasesh 213 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 6: Khan as well, and he made some interesting comments yesterday 214 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 6: that have been picked up also on our Bloomberg criminal 215 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 6: In comments to reporters, he said that Iran would be 216 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 6: willing to have a discussion with Israel and they're willing 217 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: to put all our weapons aside so long as Israel 218 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 6: is willing to do the same. This is a verbatim 219 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 6: quote that the Iranian president told reporters yesterday, and lots 220 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 6: of people were questioning the timing of those specific comments, 221 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 6: particularly because as we know, Hesbela is Iran backed, and 222 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 6: there has been an absence or very little sign very 223 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 6: few signs that Iran are looking to get actively involved 224 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 6: in this war as well. So you have to think 225 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 6: about some of the commentary that's going to be coming 226 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 6: through from Iran and Iranian representatives in the next few 227 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 6: days as well. 228 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Masud Pozshki on the Iranian president is due to 229 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: speak at the UN today. Jumana, thank you so much 230 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 1: for being with me this morning. That is Bloomberg Horizons 231 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Midle East anchor Jumana Bisecci in one of our key 232 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: stories this morning, Israel launching air strikes on targets across 233 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: southern Lebanon. Thank you so much for being with me. 234 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: Now to the main economic and business story. Now, China's 235 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: Central Bank has announced a slew of stimulus measures to 236 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: boost the economy, stocks, and property. The initial market response 237 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: has been cautiously positive, perhaps more than that, but some 238 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: of the fundamental woes that continue to plague the Chinese economy, 239 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: like deflationary pressure, those perhaps remain unresolved. Let's discuss with 240 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Blueberg's Asia Government and Politics correspondent Rebecca Chung Wilkins. Rebecca, 241 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: good morning. First of all the changes that have been announced, 242 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: just run through the pboc's barrage of measures. 243 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, both the timing and the scale. I think of 244 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 7: these measures something of a surprise and perhaps underscoring the 245 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 7: urgency with which authorities are seeking now to act. So 246 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 7: we had the seven day reverse repo rate that was 247 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 7: lowered twenty BIPs. We had the triple R down fifty BIPs, 248 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 7: we had average cut on mortgages existing mortgages down fifty bits, 249 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 7: and the MLF expected to be cut by about thirty BIPs. So, 250 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 7: as you, as you say, sort of barrage of different measures, 251 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 7: that we've had. We've also had mention of this potential 252 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 7: program to allow PBOC liquidity to support the stocks that 253 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 7: could look similar to something that we saw in twenty fifteen. 254 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 7: And interestingly, on property, while there wasn't an enormous amount, 255 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 7: we did hear this shift that the PBOC will now 256 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 7: be covering one hundred percent of loans for the program 257 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 7: that local governments are engaged in to buy up the 258 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 7: slew of unsold housing. Now, this is a scheme that 259 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 7: has really struggled to take off. So a real range 260 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 7: here and as sit down by you know, three of 261 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 7: the key regulatory financial chiefs in China. 262 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Beijing was making a big deal of this announcement 263 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: ahead of it. Why is that also quite important in 264 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: how we think about this story. 265 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is really interesting because I think for most 266 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 7: parts of the world, this is what you expect, expect 267 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 7: your chief, your PBOC chief, your central bank chief to 268 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 7: sit down at a press conference and talk sort of 269 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 7: somewhat off the cuff or somewhat freely with transparency around 270 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 7: what measures are being introduced. But of course in China, 271 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 7: actually there has been this sort of prevailing concern around 272 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 7: the black box, around the lack of information and the 273 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 7: lack of transparency around how decision making is happening. So 274 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 7: it certainly has caught people's attention. We had the Pangong 275 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 7: Shung sitting alongside the chief for the Securities Regulator as 276 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 7: well as the Finance regulator. So these three making their 277 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 7: debut and offering a coordinated set of measures from each 278 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 7: of their respective institutions here to try and bolster growth 279 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 7: in China. 280 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, and so in terms of that growth goal, 281 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Economics has looked at how much this will help 282 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: does China reach its five percent growth target on the 283 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: back of this. 284 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 7: Well, this is interesting. Bloomberg Economics yea certainly commenting that 285 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 7: this is a powerful, a powerful measure. That their baseline 286 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 7: was four point seven but with these measures at the 287 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 7: very least, there will be a certainly a significant sentiment shift. 288 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 7: But also that China could now set its sights for 289 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 7: that target of around five percent. And it is worth 290 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 7: stressing that the target even in Beijing's mind is around 291 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: five percent rather than a hard five percent. 292 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: Okay, And this talk also of stock stabilization, a stock 293 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: stabilization fund, I mean no surprise that that has boosted 294 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: the equity market. Surely what's been the reaction? 295 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 7: Yes, not entirely surprising, and I think in that part 296 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 7: we have perhaps more than just cautious optimism, I think, 297 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 7: but I would sort of caveat it was saying that 298 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 7: the expectations from investors have been so low. They have 299 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 7: been this whole sort of process of sort of getting 300 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 7: their hopes up and then having them dashed. We've been 301 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 7: in this sort of cycle of up and down and 302 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 7: up and down for really almost a year in fact, 303 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 7: a looking back, and so yes, there is a great 304 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 7: deal of I think of positivity around that. Of course, 305 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 7: we're still waiting to see what some of the details 306 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 7: might look like. We had a similar program that was 307 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 7: introduced back in in twenty fifteen to try and stabilize 308 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 7: the markets there. 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