WEBVTT - Building the Progressive Pipeline 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.400 Good morning, Peepsen, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.520 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.360 You know, folks, we are just a handful of days 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:29.360 until the State of Georgia makes its decision in their 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:35.040 runoff election about who is going to represent them. Now, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:41.960 I have had such deep feelings about what Republicans have 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.520 done in the State of Georgia. I've had such deep 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:50.800 feelings about the political apparatus that is even allowed for 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:57.240 Reverend Warnock to have a fighting chance in the State 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:03.040 of Georgia because of the work that's Stacy Abrams, Blackpack 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:09.000 and other on the ground coalitions have done to create 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.800 a get out the vote apparatus that is bar none 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:18.479 and should be replicated in every fucking state in this country, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.040 regardless of how red we think that it is, because 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:26.920 what Democrats do and have done is just seed states, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.319 full states, full fucking regions to Republicans and say, oh, 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.399 we could never instead of getting on the ground three 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.360 hundred and sixty five days a year talking to people, 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:43.320 organizing with people, building up momentum, and building a pipeline 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.800 of candidates that could potentially whether it is in five 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.200 years and ten years or in twenty years, turn that 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:57.000 state from red too fucking purple too blue. Right, That's 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:02.040 the kind of elbow grease. Is the kind of fortitude, 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:07.520 that is the kind of persistence that black women have, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.320 that have been at the forefront of shaping and changing 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:17.160 Georgia that Democrats need to have up and down this 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.560 fucking country if they want to, in fact, preserve and 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.880 expand our democracy. What do I mean by expand? I 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.840 mean that we live up to our creed where all 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:36.240 people are treated equal, where everyone has access to liberty 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.240 and justice and freedom and happiness, and that these are 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:44.919 not just words and parts of our constitution, but that 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.320 we live these ideals, and these ideals are present in 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:53.120 our policies. Right. That doesn't happen when we keep ping 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.520 ponging back and forth between the white nationalist Republican Party 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:05.000 and the Democrats. Right. So when we look at this race, 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:10.520 this Senate race, and you know, I've heard some people say, well, oh, 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.040 it's not that consequential anymore, because we already have the 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.760 Democrats have already won the Senate. And I say to them, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:22.320 are you dumb? Because the more Democratic senators we have, 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.080 the more things that we actually get done. So no, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.639 we don't just throw up our hands and say so 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.280 we won. We don't need another seat, Yes we fucking do. Frankly, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.800 we need sixty in order to get all of the 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.480 things done that we actually want to get done in 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:41.320 this country and can't because of the archaic racist filibuster 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.480 that is in place and because of Joe Manchin and 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.160 Kursen Cinema that deny us the ability to get rid 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.160 of the filibuster. So we can codify you know, women's 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.480 rights and voting rights into this country, so that we 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:59.240 nullify the damage that the Supreme Court is doing now 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.120 that it has been weaponized and radicalized by the white 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:07.520 supremacy Republican Party. So when I look at Georgia and 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:12.480 I look at a herschel Walker that is a empty 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:19.560 vessel puppet for white supremacy and the Republican Party that 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.320 they would lift up this man that has near a 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:28.400 brain in his head, it's clearly I mean not even 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.960 under I don't even what is the worst word, rather 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:37.640 than underqualified for a job, right like he is, whatever 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.760 that word is, that is what herschel Walker is. Herschel 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.520 Walker couldn't even be I think in charge of coaching 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.320 a little league football team, because the man does not 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.640 have control of his mental faculties. You listen to him 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.840 and in Warnock's latest ad, which is by far the 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.280 most brilliant thing I have seen, and again I'm like, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:04.720 if Democrats at the national level are not paying attention 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.599 to one the apparatus that has been put in place 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.800 to get out the vote in Georgia, and to two 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.640 the way in which Reverend Warnock has decided to fight 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:18.120 back against the white supremacists in Georgia, they're not paying 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.320 attention his latest attack ad looks like this. It looks 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:27.280 like a bunch of Georgians, different races, different ages, sitting 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.080 in a white room like a focus group, and they 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.800 have headphones on and they're watching herschel Walker in his 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.640 own words at rallies. They're watching clips of him speaking. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:47.599 The entire ad is just them reacting to herschel Walker speaking. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.839 It is brilliant. They're listening to herschel Walker talk about 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.720 vampires and werewolves and how he wants to be a werewolf. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:08.360 Now they're watching videos of herschel Walker just run on 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.120 about bad air in China and good air in the 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.640 United states, and like we have enough good air, so 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:22.960 they're bad air, won't get I mean it is. And 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:30.479 then the people are reacting and their reactions go range 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:38.960 from ways of embarrassment to anger, to frustration to this 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.320 is how little And this is what I have been saying, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.479 This is how little the Republican Party thinks about the 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.719 people of Georgia. That all they want is a yes man. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.480 All they want is somebody to hit the yes button. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.760 Not somebody that is going to think about them, that 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.159 is going to lead them, that is going to be 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.160 supportive of them and actually understand their needs. No, they 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.919 just need an empty vessel in there, a empty black 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.960 body that they can point to and say, boy, you 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.560 go ahead and go do that. Boy, you go ahead 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:17.600 and vote like that. And I spoke about this that 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:24.280 a good reverend down in Georgia went viral for his 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:32.240 video lambasting Herschel Walker, lambasting white nationalist racist in the 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.360 state of Georgia, saying that they don't want you to 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.880 have a man that is of philosophy. They want you 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.080 to vote for the man with a football. You don't 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.080 need a walker, you need a leader. You need somebody 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:53.400 that is about running this state putting us on the map, right, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:08:01.040 And I gotta tell you that herschel Walker bodies exactly 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.679 what it is the Republican Party thinks about black people, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.200 what they think about people of color, how very little 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.680 they think about us, right. And you can tell by 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.600 the company that these motherfuckers keep. You know, they say 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:22.040 nothing still with regard to Donald Trump dining with a 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.200 white supremacy and known white supremacis and anti semi in 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:30.840 Nick Fluente's end in Kanye West, they say nothing because 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.320 they don't want to upset their base, which is built 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:41.440 on white supremacy and white supremacists. Their silence tells us 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.040 who they are. And this is the thing and I 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.680 did to TikTok about this earlier in the week, which 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.640 said this, you don't need to announce that you are 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.640 a racist. You do not need to announce that you 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.800 are an anti semi. All you have to do is 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:01.280 pay attention to what people say, what they don't say, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.600 and who the fuck they rock with. That will give 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.280 you all the information that you need. I don't need 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.240 Donald Trump to stand up on a stage and say 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.000 that he is a racist. I know that Donald Trump 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.160 is a racist. I know it from the ways that 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.000 he ran his fucking rental buildings in New York City 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:20.840 and was sued for it. I know the way in 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.760 which he had spoken about black people, that's my good 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.800 black over there. I know the way that he has 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.560 spoken about African nations and nations are built by people 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.280 of color as shiphole countries. I know the ways that 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.320 he has treated undocumented people in this country. I know 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.600 the ways that he has spoken about Mexicans in this country, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.640 how he has said that those that come in here 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:45.680 should be from good places like Finland or Norwegian. Right 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:50.800 like we know who Donald Trump is. It is willful 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.680 ignorance that has us believed that this Republican Party isn't 0:09:54.720 --> 0:10:00.160 just a well funded, well organized, fucking hate group. So 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.480 it is more important than ever, more important than ever, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:13.000 that we elect people who look like this country's demographic shift, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.560 and not just look like them in the way that 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:23.000 the Republican Party has put up this empty vessel known 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:29.480 as herschel Walker, that doesn't just have the complexion, but 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:36.920 has the character and the fortitude and the will to 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:42.880 match what we need in order to preserve our democracy, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:51.040 in order to actualize our freedoms in this country, Coming 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:56.560 up next, it's my conversation with Dalida Hosha, who is 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:01.599 the executive director of renew US, which is an organization 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:06.600 that is about endorsing progressive, Black, Indigenous people of color 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.600 candidates across America and giving them the skills and the 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.439 ability to be able to not only run as candidates, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.000 but to run campaigns as well. So I will talk 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.800 with Delida about a whole host of things and why 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:27.760 it is important that organizations like renew US exist, folks. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.800 I am very excited to welcome to woka F Daily 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:35.440 for the very first time Dalida Hosha, who is the 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:40.240 executive director of renew US, say an organization that is 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:47.680 dedicated in working with down ballot progressive candidates. Dalida, please 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.960 tell the WOKAF audience a bit more about renew USA 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.360 and how what integral part you played in in the 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.679 midterm elections. Yeah, sure, Danielle, thank you for having me. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.240 Um So, as you said, renew USA really trying to 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:11.880 make sure we identify the gaps that progressive um you know, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.199 the left has been missing in order to really build 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.720 true power. Right, we have seen how since the seventies 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.040 the far right really invested in state they had, you know, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.319 this strategy to invest in state power. UM, while the 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.160 far left we just thought that you know, DC was 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.839 the goal, right and UM, at a national level, things 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.959 have not changed. So UM Renew really wants to focus 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.280 on building that power locally, UM to make sure that 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.120 power rises up right, to make sure that we can 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.640 change things on a local and state level, because that's 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.800 where it truly matters, like that's where impacts our day 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.079 to day life, not so much at a national level, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.640 where most of the things get stuck, you know, and 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.040 we don't see change that really impacts our life and 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.520 push us forward towards justice. So Renew have been able 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.280 to identify the gaps and we have been able to 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.520 provide the service to close that gap and really really 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.720 invest in candidates at a local and state level to 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:22.120 build that long lasting progressive power that we desperately need 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.000 in order to save our planet, in order to change 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:30.640 you know, our lives, everyday lives for immigrants, lgbtqu Native Americans, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.040 you know, just really really change the lives of those 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.160 who have been the most marginalized in this country and 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.760 and honestly worldwide. Let's talk a bit about the fact 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:47.920 that Democrats for far too long have ceded state influence 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.960 to the right. Right, like you said, you know, democrats 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.520 will the democratic establishment has always told us, okay, we 0:13:55.559 --> 0:14:00.200 need representative representation in Congress, in the Senate, um know, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:04.120 at the governorship, the presidency. And so what has happened 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.120 by virtue of that is that folks have kind of 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.640 allowed what is happening at the state, uh and local 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.400 level to kind of fall by the wayside. Can you 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.480 speak to some of the candidates, UM that you all 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.360 were helping in the races that you were helping in, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.720 and why it's important for folks who may only be 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:28.160 invested at the national level to understand the intricacies of 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:33.640 about what happens at the state and local level. Sure, Um, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.760 so VERNUA is in twelve different states, right, so we 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.680 had candidates UM in various uh in all the twelve 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.440 states and UM progressive candidates. For example, in North Carolina, 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:50.640 we had we endorsed Carla who first Latina would become 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.160 the first Latina to be elected, uh, you know to 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:58.280 the state house. UM. We indorsed for example, my district 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.920 right here in Massachusetts. UH, we worked on Robin Kennedy 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:09.320 for state Senate right, um, and progressive candidate um who 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.440 is now thankfully my my state senator. Um. So, we 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.360 we had just amazing candidates that we indorsed um all 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:22.480 over the country. And obviously when um, when you're going 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.200 for progressive candidates, it also means that you're going to 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:29.040 lose a lot, right, You're gonna lose them because you 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.680 gotta be if we're not built to to lose, then 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.840 we're not built to like really be in the fight 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.960 we you know, um so. And the important is um 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.360 candidates um As I say, the power flows up right, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.040 So candidates at a local and state level most likely 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.240 there is a pipeline for them to then go to Congress. Right. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.760 So if we're not investing at a state level, local 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.520 and state level, then we're really not looking forward to 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.040 the power that we could build towards, right, um. And 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.480 that's what the far right did. They like invested so 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.320 deeply in local and state level. And then we wonder 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.440 sometimes we caught off guardens like how did we get 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.960 that that person as you know, a US Congress uh, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.240 you know, representative, oh senators, just like well they've been 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.880 building while we've been, um, you know, the the left 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.080 been pretending that we're just like going straight to um, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.800 you know, Congress in White House to get the power. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.160 Then they've been building because they know the power is 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.480 going up instead of like you're not seeing your US 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.680 representative or US senator leaving that position to come down 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.000 and become your state senator. Right, that's not happening, right, 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.480 And that is why it's so important for us to 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.080 build local and state level because most likely those are 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.720 the folks that are going to be representing you at 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:54.120 the national level. UM. And and the changes that truly 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.240 happens at a local and state level. UM. Take immigration 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.720 form you know an example, and I'm taking immigration. I'm 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:06.200 an immigrant right from Kate Bird, which is west coast 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:11.000 of Africa. We continue to hear that immigration is national, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.000 you know, it should be debated and it should be 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.680 so called fixed at a national level. Right in the meantime, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.520 you know, the system is broken. Nothing is getting done 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.919 on a national level. So that means we have to 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.320 be able to do it at a state level. And 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:27.639 in order to be able to do it at a 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.240 state level, we have to be able to work with 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.960 progressive candidates, get them in office so we can get 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:37.000 those laws change at a state level, and that is 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.560 going to impact what happens on the national levels, not 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.520 the other way around, as we've been pretending that it 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.199 is right. So, you know, one of the things that 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.080 I think has been really important to me as I've 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.280 been looking and trying to educate people on why they 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:56.640 should care about state and local races is what's happening 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.639 with the school boards right. For instance, school boards have 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.480 been taken over by the far right and they are 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.560 banning books. Right, two thousand books have been banned across 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.879 you know, k through twelve schools across this country. They 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.120 are banning curriculum, they're banning words. And I'm saying if 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.359 you're a person, regardless of if you have kids in 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:20.040 the school system or not, right, you should care about 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.680 how young people are being educated. So, how does RENEW 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:30.679 get people activated and interested in either running for office 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.320 themselves or being trained to go and find folks that 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:40.240 are interested in running for office and then running their campaigns. Yeah, 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.359 so RENEW is really focused on recruiting our own I 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:51.320 call it our own people, right, regular people who are nurses, parents, advocates, activists. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.800 We're really recruiting people who wouldn't think that they are 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.920 fit to be an office, they are fit to represent. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.600 We have activists on the ground every day organizing, trying 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.400 to change um uh you know uh laws and trying 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.040 to put in place things that it's going to better 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.639 our lives. But a lot of them don't think that 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.040 they have the skills or they have what it takes 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.000 to actually be a public um, you know, servant in 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.280 that way of like representing their constituents. Right, So we 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.320 are going out there identifying those those folks who have 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.280 been doing the work for so long and having you know, 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.439 just conversations, Um, have you thought of yourself as someone 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.400 who can run for office? Um? And you know they 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.120 say it takes at least seven times when you ask 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:42.560 a female identified the person um for them to say yes, um. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.440 And that is um. You know it's it's not that's 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.399 not by accident, right, that is not by accident. So 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.520 we are taking a time to make sure that it's 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.160 not a one time conversation. UM. It's you know, we 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.919 are building a community as we recruit folks. We are 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.600 building a community and we are creating the conditions for 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.800 them to claim and reclaim their power. We don't have 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.520 the power to give anyone right you have. We can 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.679 only create the conditions for people to recognize their power 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.040 and take it. And that is exactly what Bruneau is doing. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:23.320 We are recruiting candidates, we are providing the trainings that 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.359 they need and apologies if you hear my dog, we 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.520 are providing the trainings that they need because it's not 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.480 just getting that person to say yes, right, it's also 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.280 providing them with the trainings that they need. Because a 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:38.879 lot of the times that is why a lot of 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.440 folks get discouraged from running. They get someone to recruit 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.080 them and then it's kind of like, oh, now you 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.520 have to figure out on your own what you need 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.280 in order to run a campaign, and that's not fair 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.879 to them. And then when you know the campaign is 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:57.360 not quote unquote successful because they're not elected, then they 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.600 get discouraged and they sort of like go away. And 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.000 that is we continue to lose people in our movement, 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.959 and that is why the folks who are left are 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.440 getting burnt out because we're just like constantly viewing too much. Right. 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:13.040 So we are providing the trainings that they need, and 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:18.800 we also providing trainings for campaign managers. Right. We renew 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.040 noticed that there was a gap, right, we not enough 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:28.440 people of color, lgbtqu members of the community have been um, 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.760 you know, have been sort of allowed at the opportunity 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.800 to learn the skills needed to become campaign managers, which 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:40.000 means that we have an issue with the pipeline because 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:44.159 most of the people who become campaign managers eventually, um 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.399 either you're becoming chief of staff or becoming a staff 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:50.320 member of whoever is elected, and then that opens the 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.480 door for you to then later on run. Right, So 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.800 like the that is a game, that is a gap, 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.600 like when you have a lack of you know, uh 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.800 leaders in the pipeline to be able to represent us. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.240 And that is what renew is doing. We training campaign 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:08.960 managers all across the country and then connecting them to 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.119 progressive candidates not only for them to be supported with 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:17.679 their campaign with progressives, but also to create that pipeline 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.960 to then have more of our people, I continue to say, 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:26.280 our people representing us. Tell us a little bit about 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:30.880 what you're training, particularly for campaign managers, because I do remember, 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.760 you know, working on Capitol Hill and I was a 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.480 part I went to Capitol Hill as a member of 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:41.240 the Congressional Black Caucuses fellowship program, and the whole purpose 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.520 of that was to bring more black people to Capitol 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:49.400 Hill because in many ways in Washington, DC, that pipeline 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.760 was fueled by people who were afforded the ability and 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.920 privilege to do unpaid internships. We don't do that kind 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.480 of thing anymore, but because of unpaid intern ships, that 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.440 the assumption was that your families had money, right, and 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.480 and you didn't have to spend any time working and 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.359 you could uh kind of get your foot in the door. Um. 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.000 And so the CBC recognized that there was a huge 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.240 gap in terms of black and brown people being represented 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.159 on Capitol Hill for that reason. So I want to 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.720 talk a little bit about your the campaign manager training, 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.800 uh trainings and programs. What are some of the things 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.800 that you offer and how do people find the program 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.479 if in fact they are interested uh in in getting 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:39.480 in getting that experience. Yeah, so some some of the 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:45.600 trainings included in the curriculum UM fundraising. Right, and we 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.800 know whether folks want to have an open conversation about it, UM. 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:55.159 We know UM that bipop folks have have had a 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.920 sort of UM streaming relationship with with money. Right. I 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.040 For example, book UM was one of the things that 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.199 I shy away from is asking is organizing money. We 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.359 don't see it as organized money. A lot of the 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.160 times we're seeing as you know, bagging, so we shy 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.159 away from that. So that is part of fundraising, is 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:17.240 part of the training really um you know uh, teaching 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.840 our participants to look at it from a different angle. 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:25.359 It's about organizing money, um, that you need to do 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.440 in order to achieve a goal, right um. And UM 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:35.280 we also training on you know, uh comms right um. 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:40.119 As a campaign manager, messaging extremely important, right. So we 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:45.200 have messaging training, we have fundraising training, vote builder, uh, 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.760 anything that you will need in order to um, you know, 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:54.480 confidently run a campaign um. Which is as you said, 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.200 uh and an issue because a lot of folks who 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.800 can afford to do interference internship and paid internship, you know, 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.240 they gained those skills, but for the rest of us 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:09.919 who cannot afford to do that, we continue to be 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.399 left behind. And then there's this constant narrative of just like, um, 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.560 folks are not coming to the table. It's just like 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.280 they can't come to the table if they don't if 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.280 they thinking about how I'm not going to meet my 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.439 knee Yeah, where's my where's my mail coming from the 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.320 next day? How I'm not going to feed my family. 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.040 You can't come to the table like that. Yeah. You know, 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.480 one of the things that has been on the rise 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:37.240 in this country over the last several years is political violence, 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.439 threats of political violence. I mean we just you know, 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:45.040 uh saw the attack on Paul Pelosi, Speaker Pelosi's husband. 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.480 We have seen other members of Congress be shot. We 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.000 have seen other you know, threats of the FBI and 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:57.200 bombing and all of these things. How does the rise 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.879 in political violence? We saw the polsters that volunteered in 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.800 Georgia in the twenty twenty election have their entire lives 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:09.200 turned upside down and are living in fear because of 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:13.800 the former twice impeached presidents tweets and attacks on them. 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.600 So how do you talk about how does RENEW kind 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.720 of talk about this the reality of political violence while 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:27.200 also seeking to find candidates and volunteers that want to 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:32.920 run for office and work on campaigns. Yeah, so that first, 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:38.520 the acknowledgement that fear can paralyze one is something that RENEW. 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.520 That was the first thing we acknowledge that it's not 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.280 as easy of just asking someone for you know, to 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.640 step up and run for office. We care be fears, fear, 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.800 not body right, especially for us who have a descendants 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.960 of slaves. While other people want to acknowledge it, have 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.480 open conversation, that's a separate thing, but the fact is 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:04.520