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Speaker 1: So timing is perfect. I say, it's divine intervention and

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Speaker 1: And that's what this was about. This was affecting lives.

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Speaker 1: I feel. You know, I don't come from a city

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Speaker 1: with gang banging, but the police is, in my mind,

431
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: the biggest gang in the world because they all got guns.

432
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Speaker 1: They're the only gang where everybody is strapped. Every other game,

433
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: you got a couple of niggas, you got some guns,

434
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: but the police everybody strapped. And when they come and

435
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: they're not just strapped with a gun, they got a gun,

436
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: a billy club, a taser, that slapstick ship that they

437
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: use it. It's your whole But you got a batman

438
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: belt of nigger up. That's just the But to your point,

439
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: right that tool belt, what we need to add to

440
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: it is the ability to say, my first reaction in

441
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: every conversation, right after you know the scene it's safe,

442
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: is how do we diffuse or get you home safely?

443
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: If we add that to that tool belt, all right,

444
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: from training it has to be repetitive. We add that

445
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: to that tool belt, then I know I shouldn't be

446
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: reaching for my gun when this is my next door neighbor. Right.

447
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: We gotta figure this out. And until my question is this,

448
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: what's your suggestion? My suggestion, My suggestion personally is I

449
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: don't think that you should be able to be a

450
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: police officer if you're scared. And police got to stop

451
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: creating crames too. And when I say creating crames, it's

452
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: like if they show up and they say, what's the problem,

453
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: let me see your license? You are who you say?

454
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be all that extra ship all that. Hey man,

455
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: look you don't see no problems going on over here.

456
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: Please gonna find the murderers in the crooks and motherfucker's

457
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: don't just take me to jail because you've got a

458
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: whole bunch of black people over here. It's some ship

459
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: going on. Like once they there, they came to take somebody.

460
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: That's they don't get in the car and leave. But

461
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: that's my point. We should make the first encounter and

462
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: the thought process of it's not a crime for us

463
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: to be here, right, it's not a crime for us

464
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: to be here. Just on the other side of that,

465
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: like Heven saying earlier, once they come though, somebody going

466
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: to jail, something change, right. Now here's the time. Most

467
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: of the time they show up because somebody called it.

468
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: But we want to stop all these phantom as calls

469
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: to because if we at there kicking it and we

470
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: know ain't no neighbors that would ain't getting these calls.

471
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: But you can go back to everything. I want one take.

472
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I feel like you shouldn't be

473
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Speaker 1: able to be a police officer if you're scary. And

474
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: what I mean by scary is you see these reactions

475
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: in these situations where these innocent people unarmed people to kill,

476
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: and you see the reaction to when somebody's shadow, when

477
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: they pull their gun. It's just all right, and you

478
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: can just tell that now you're scary. You know what

479
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, You're scary. They should be fun a question there.

480
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: You should be putting random situations throughout your training with

481
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: some ship. Just happened. Now, y'all gotta set it. You

482
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: can set it up to where it just be the

483
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: police and y'all do it amongst each other. But when

484
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: a mother fucker born in this house, you had two

485
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: mothers jump out the bushes on his ask. Oh, I

486
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: got it, y'all. A little training, so much this training,

487
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: all right, you should if you want to be the

488
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: police officer, you gotta go to one of these little

489
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Speaker 1: red knick answer Georgia counties with a gun in the

490
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Speaker 1: car and then get pulled over by the eight police

491
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: so you can see, yeah, that's it. The police gotta

492
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Speaker 1: go a real police. Got the real police talking about

493
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: some police who don't know nothing about this police academy ship.

494
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna search the car and violate you and treat

495
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: you like a regular citizen. Then when you come back,

496
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: if you still want to do it, well, so a

497
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: couple of things we need to and we're gonna stop

498
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: acting like police. Just be by the book too, Pat,

499
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: you know they you know they'd be doing people dirty.

500
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: You knew, let's found a way to give me. I mean, wait,

501
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: don't tell him yet. Wait here, going back this, let's

502
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: let's unpack this part first, and and this and I

503
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: said this last time, right, young men that become police officers,

504
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: young women that become police officers, and you can be

505
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: a police officer one right, twenty going into the academy

506
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: long as twenty one that kind of thing. Uh. And

507
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: what we do is we put them in high stress situations.

508
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: And we're talk about law enforcement in general, uh, but

509
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: an example, but those things happen. So you put them

510
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: in this environment where the training is just as you said, right,

511
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: you're not jumping out the bushes, but their car stops,

512
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: those are things hear me out. But if we put

513
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Speaker 1: them in a situation that the community recognizes, just as

514
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: you just said, right, you continue to train in that fashion.

515
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: But here the other thing is that many of us

516
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: have kids, right, I got I got a twenty one

517
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: and twenty two year old men, black, black, grown men

518
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't give a gun, and I certainly wouldn't

519
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: put them out eleven night to seven in the morning

520
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: and send them to the worst parts of town. So

521
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: we have to reconfigure restructures, so we got seasoned veterans

522
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: right so that those things don't happen. And then the

523
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Speaker 1: other thing, and I offered this to you and and

524
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: and Tyler uh from the Tyler Chronicles, is that as

525
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I become sheriff, one of the things we can do,

526
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'll make sure you've involved to Chico is um

527
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: include you all in the training, right, so that you

528
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: can experience it to the point that you remember. And

529
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: I said, this ship, but it's gonna be well, I

530
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: got it right, but you gotta be hit with a

531
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: taste in order to Caroline right, you gotta shoot me lightning, like, well,

532
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: what I gotta do to get a good? And then

533
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: not gonna get shot to get a good? That don't

534
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: make this stupid? And I said this, do you remember

535
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: men and black when when Will Smith went in there

536
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: and they shot the little girl and during his training

537
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: because she had boots on, etcetera. Where they're there are

538
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: opportunities for us to put you in high stress situations

539
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: where these uh, these instructional machines actually shoot back. Right,

540
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: So I want to take you go, bring you into

541
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: this instructural machine and and have this high pressure situation

542
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: put together and see how you survived the situation. And

543
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: so to that point, we did. We did that with

544
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: a couple of preachers, a couple of passes that who

545
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: would always get out in front of every shooting. And

546
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: now you see them and be a little be a

547
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: little more sensitive because they went in and killed everybody

548
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: in the room. Right, Guy's bad guys. They shooting everybody, right, Jesus.

549
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: But we have to do that right, and we have

550
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: to get in front of the conversation so that you

551
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: and I can can really build that relationship and then

552
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: tell me what we're doing we can do better right,

553
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: and tell me what we're doing wrong. And then when

554
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: we do that we grow from it. And and every

555
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: everybody tell you, anybody around me, I'll give you my

556
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: number before we leave, uh and and feel free to

557
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: call me. Let's and when you see things that are right,

558
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: wrong and different. Right. But the first thing we gotta

559
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: do with the Sheriff's office and set the tone in

560
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: law enforcement in Fulton County is focused on customer service.

561
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Have you had to deal with that late night called

562
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: from one of your sons calling you about getting pulled over,

563
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: and you here in the background and clearly being violated

564
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: and turning and got them phoning. And here's the crazy part.

565
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Here's a crazy part. Unlike the incombent, right, I have

566
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: to have that conversation repeatedly with my sons about what

567
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: to do when you're stopped all those things? What should

568
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: you do when you know the girl my dadd would

569
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: be the sheriff. And I gotta worry about what I

570
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: do when I get stopped? Five got me fucked up?

571
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: You see my grain in hand that you know you're

572
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: going to run it again. You see the name on

573
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: the back of the address. Until until you're in Nashville

574
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: and your son calls you and tells you he's on

575
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the side of the fucking road because these cops have

576
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: pulled him out. They don't care nothing about you. They

577
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: don't care nothing about you. Now they let him on

578
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: his way. Let me be clear. But see the painful

579
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: part for me is he didn't tell me this till

580
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: I get home. Until he gets home. Right, I'm like

581
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: something when you call, when you call me a right,

582
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: so that one every time they leave, I cringe and

583
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that we have to

584
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: learn to to unwind and unpack. So you're right, it

585
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: is while that seemed like an easy answer for for him, right,

586
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: but he's also trying to build his own identity. Right.

587
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: But it happens. It happens, and and it's unfortunate that

588
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: it happens. But we have to figure out how to

589
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: reverse that trend. No, I know, how does it just

590
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: happen on one sad? That's what I was just about

591
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: to say. It's not a trend. If they're only doing

592
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: it to certain people, it's not just a random active Hey,

593
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: you've in violation and you being belligerent. This is the

594
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: procedure and this is not this ain't just motherfucker's talking.

595
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Like everybody in this room, you could tell you a

596
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: handful of the times. Well, it's like, all right, this

597
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: is it. We didn't went through the whole you know

598
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: why it pulls you over. I got your license, they

599
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: see that. We're good. Now here comes the dirty part.

600
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna do something extra that ain't got shipped to

601
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: do with none of this. We can go from you

602
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: said ever in this what I'm saying to now, which

603
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: one is it? Like, well, I mean, look, let let

604
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: me be honest with you. There is they tell you,

605
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: we'll get to that part later. It's that's the old

606
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: we gotta change. But we gotta change that. And to

607
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: your point, to your point when you say everybody in

608
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: that room that includes me. So I I had my

609
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: badge in my back pocket and I'm up there in

610
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Cobb County and I'm twenty years old. Let you see

611
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: how every black man like, right, that's right, but I'm

612
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: twenty I wasn't. I wasn't running for office at the time. Right,

613
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: And to be treated the same way you just spoke of, right,

614
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: it gives it gives me real life experience to say,

615
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: once I've become shaff we gotta change that dynamic. Right,

616
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: we gotta change it. We gotta change it because you know,

617
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: our youth and and the people that are protesting are

618
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: demanding quality service. We have to be able to deliver

619
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: quality service. And it starts with customer service. And so

620
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: the one thing about me that you'll find it's different

621
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: than most, especially different than the than the incoming I'll

622
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: give you my number, I answer the phone. Right, But

623
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: what we teach somebody one of you just asked me

624
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, what do we teach in terms

625
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: of our youth and and our kids. We teach that

626
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: you gotta survive the stop. You can't hold court on

627
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: this on the side of the road. And so when

628
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: my son called me from Nashville and he said, Daddy

629
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: got us on the side of the road, listen, don't

630
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: hold court out there. So I don't need your video taping. Now,

631
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: you cut on the phone and put it down. Let

632
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: me be clear, right to get some some good documentation

633
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: is what I call it. But you don't need to

634
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: be uh really anti police at that moment. You first

635
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: got to survive to stop, right, because I know you've

636
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: got plenty of good lawyers. All right, you gotta get

637
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: back to him first. You gotta get them. You gotta

638
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: get like you said, you gotta get you gotta the stop.

639
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: But that's like you said, I know the procedure, and

640
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: then would tell you I'm the most thorough motherfucker when

641
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: it comes to the procedure, because it's like I know

642
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: how how one second can change into forever. So it's like,

643
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: even if I'm dead, that's wrong, I'm not gonna make

644
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: this ship. But what they don't want to be right,

645
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: but but that's what I'm saying. Even even if I

646
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: know I'm I violated at some point, because it's like

647
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: I know, sometimes ship just happened. You may see the

648
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: motherfucker's behind you. You may have swerved. Yeah, hell yeah.

649
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure that it ain't ship in

650
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: there that's gonna make you take it to the next level.

651
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I could take that because I know it's a certain violation.

652
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: They come with a traffic valuation. But then if we

653
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: got to go through the whole back and forth, then

654
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: the ship then't Then by the time the other motherfucker's come,

655
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: now we got the whole ass swooping weight now sad

656
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: and we can't get out of the car at this point.

657
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: That's we know what levels that they operate on. So

658
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I try to keep that ship is a You ain't

659
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: got no problems. I'm thirty seven year old girl nance man.

660
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: We got the lights on. Look whatever you need to

661
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: look through. We're not even to do all that. Go

662
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: get through warring ship. If you believe it's in here,

663
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: it's your job to find them. This the officer. But

664
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep it real with you. It's not

665
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: in here. It smells like it's in here, but they

666
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: ain't in here because when you hit the lights, I

667
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: hit my lights and whatever you're looking for it, And

668
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be honest with you. But if you

669
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: won't waste your time search this car, you can lift

670
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: the hood. It ain't in him, this officer, it smells

671
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: like it. It's smells like it. I know that, but

672
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: it ain't. It's a lot of people, you know, that

673
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: don't want change and want things to say the same.

674
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people who are totally fine with

675
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: the way that the infrastructure is set up now within

676
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: the police department. So how do you plan on standing

677
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: up against those people? Because unlike us, they have, you know,

678
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: monetary resources that they pull together and yeah, they have numbers,

679
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: and they come in with the with the with money

680
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: and and they demand we don't have. Unfortunately we haven't

681
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: been given that opportunity. So you being an advocate for

682
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, to change, how do you feel like you're

683
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna you know, speak truth to power in those regardless.

684
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: So there a couple of things that have to happen. First,

685
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I gotta get elected, right, So we got to get

686
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: out and vote. That's that's the important thing, right, Um,

687
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: But I'm not scared of that. Piece a matter of fact, somebody,

688
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: an actual city council member, asked me. He said, you're

689
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: not scared of of the changes that you're proposing and

690
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: some of the powers that be. I'm not scared of that.

691
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm not scared because their community, our communities want change,

692
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: and I want you to be able to hold me accountable. Right.

693
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: So if a sheriff deputy stops you and you get

694
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: less than professionalism out of the conversation, whether you were wrong, wronger, indifferent, right,

695
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: I want you to be able to pick up the

696
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: phone and common and say, hey, pat listen, this is

697
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: what happened. Right, Because if you hold me accountable, I

698
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: can hold them accountable, right, and it it starts to

699
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: change the system. I want everybody in this room to say,

700
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: you know what, that's my shriff, right, that's my sheriff's office,

701
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of what they're doing, and they're going

702
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: after these real bad guys. I think the difference is,

703
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: like you're saying, you want people to say, that's my sure,

704
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: but the reality is in our communities, we want to

705
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: look and say that's my nigga. I got But that's

706
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: okay because that that applying the police aspect to it

707
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: makes it you on the other side of what we

708
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: believe in. But if I look at you and be like, man, man, sure,

709
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: if he got me, that's my that's my nigga right there.

710
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna letting nothing bad happen like And that

711
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: takes a level of effort to create that amount of

712
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: trust in our communities because it doesn't exist like so,

713
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of that comes from, like

714
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I said that, the police not having to understand it.

715
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I've never seen a black police officer and

716
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: been like, man, he's gonna treat me different because he

717
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: looked like me, and not even being black, but just

718
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: a police officer in general. Me and Lows got pulled over.

719
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: It was in Indiana. We got pulled over in Indiana

720
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: and the police came. It was one police and then

721
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: when that second car come up, you already know I

722
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: think we're going to jail. But then when I saw

723
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: who got out of the car, it was Carol Baskins.

724
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: She did not look like officer, you know, like the

725
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: later who do the paperwork. I just think they said

726
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: they were short hand she was, and then they know.

727
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: But the way they treated us doing the stop, I

728
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: mean they stood and stood us up against the car

729
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: ran all through our car. One of the officers trying

730
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: to take my hat off ahead they grabbed my hard

731
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: just violated my personal space and violated our personal space.

732
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: And then you know what we got all right? Man,

733
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: Well in the great state of Indiana, don't do this

734
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: that in the third going about your way that I

735
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: don't have anywhere to go to say, man, hey, man,

736
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: my personal writes to grab my hat. It's a very

737
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: sensetive part of my ensemble. I don't like that ship.

738
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: What can be done about officers out here violating motherfucker's

739
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: personal space? Like, is there something that could be done

740
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: to where in the communities if you violate somebody or

741
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: and they have a you know, a valid complaint about

742
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: being violated about officers, is there something that can be

743
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: put in place to where they have to come into

744
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: the community and really serve you got to come around

745
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: here and cut grass for free. Let me ask you

746
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: what happens with these officers complaints? Like, what's what happens

747
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: after somebody that makes a complaint and then they do

748
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: the investigation the same people who are sucking violated. What

749
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: happens and to the question becomes is in this scenario,

750
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: is the investigation sustained? Is it? If the investigation is sustained,

751
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: people are suspended, right that people that get fired because

752
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: of it. These things happen a lot of people simply

753
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: don't hear about it as well as you know. It's

754
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: just we were here about to shoot, we're here about

755
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: the rest of that. But what we want to do

756
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: is create an environment where complaints are One of the

757
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: things we had at the city was uh an anonymous

758
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: tip line, right, and you actually go through, well, we

759
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: we we know what the whole concept is in in

760
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: our in our neighborhoods. Right. We have to break that

761
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: cycle though, and we have to be bold enough to say, okay,

762
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: this is wrong, this is how I felt, right, and

763
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: let us deal with it. And really, people to tell

764
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: your ship people, dad, they gotta live in the neighborhoods

765
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: and after they've been told everything, But you want to

766
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: be treated, you want to be treated professionally. Let me

767
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: ask you this. Georgia is well known for being a

768
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: hot bid hateful activities like the KKK still has a

769
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: presence in Georgia to this day. What does law enforcement

770
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: doing about that? It was like a legit terrorist organization

771
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: for the last two hundred years. So it's a couple

772
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: of things we got to keep in mind. And we

773
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier. Georgia was created as a prison state,

774
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: all right. When the colonists came over, Georgia was a

775
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: prison state. So it never has fully evolved from that,

776
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: right in terms of the number of incarcerations, et cetera.

777
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: But at the same time, do you say that these

778
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: individuals are whether it be the Clue Klux Klan or

779
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: the skin Heads or whoever, right, have they committed a

780
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: crime right that you can prove? Right? Or is it

781
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: the Black Panther Party? Have you Have they committed a

782
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: crime that you can prove? So the commission of a crime,

783
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: regardless to who it is, is one that should be

784
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: investigated thoroughly. But that's the thing. We might not have

785
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: committed a crime that they can prove, but we definitely

786
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: do crimes. They can make up, you know what I mean,

787
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: They can make up a crime something. You know, so

788
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: many motherfucker's locked up for doing nothing, but to your point. Right,

789
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: we have to change the mentality that goes along with

790
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: I've heard police officers say over the years, if you

791
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: follow a car long enough, you can find a reason

792
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: to stop it. Sound racist a hell, well, not necessarily racist.

793
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter which car you're following. But a good

794
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: police officer can find and I don't mean good from

795
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: a moral standpoint, someone that is technically sound can find

796
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: a reason to stop that car if they're technically sound

797
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: enough to do it. We gotta change that mentality. Right, So,

798
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: so you're so much you broke your tail, life is broken?

799
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: What's wrong with me coming up and saying? You know,

800
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: she go hey, uh you tell lies broken? But so

801
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: we got to change the mentality. We got to change

802
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: the mentality. How many times do you think they're gonna

803
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: let you sland? You get two of them broke and

804
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: tell lights? Now your license suspended? When you now you

805
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: get pulled over? Tell light outs feeling like charge now

806
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: in Georgia because they got the new law to tell

807
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: lights and yeah, that's what they're doing. That's exact. You know,

808
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: it's like, don'ts look at the police. You know it's

809
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: a piece of that that should be accounted for to

810
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. The police is supposed

811
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: to serve and protect, you know what I mean? And

812
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: I think they never people two words that that is

813
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: used to describe the police and what they're supposed to

814
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: do to serve and protect. But they might want to

815
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: change that. If I get pulled over with it a

816
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: tell light, you know what I'm saying, or whatever it

817
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: may be where I come from should be taken into account,

818
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: or this person lives in the neighborhood that I know

819
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: is you know, down, trotten and messed up. So we're

820
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: gonna do something to make sure that you have the

821
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: resources to help to show that it's not just about

822
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: making sure that you follow the law, but making sure

823
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: we serve and protect you. We want to protect you

824
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: from having it. Like you said, get me home at night.

825
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: You should you shouldn't want me to go to jail,

826
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Like you shouldn't look for a reason as a police

827
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: officer to get me in jail. But like I said,

828
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: that program that's set up to where the money run ship.

829
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: Then they come in and say, hey, man, I don't

830
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: get funk about that. We need more than guys in

831
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: here so we can make these license plates for ten

832
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: cents of day. But what I'm saying, who what? What?

833
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: What made people ever think that to serving to protect

834
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: they meant people, they're not what That's not what they're doing.

835
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: They serving and protecting the law. Stop thinking that ship is.

836
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: They're not here to help you and be a hero.

837
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: They're serving this law. But they serve you the papers,

838
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: they serving the law, they protect them. But we have

839
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: to do holistically. We have to change it ain't about you.

840
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: We're slaving and protect them a lot. We'll whoop your

841
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: ass and then throw a piece into something. Just let

842
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: people know what's going on. Look, we gotta make this,

843
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: this sound better than to this. We gotta change. Just

844
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: like you said, right, I firmly believe it from a

845
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: law enforcement perspective, we have to be the olive branch, right,

846
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: and that olive branch becomes an opportunity for us to

847
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: sit down and continue to have these conversations and how

848
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: we get better about it. I'm just gonna let y'all know,

849
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: y'all one, y'all got all the weapons, all the tanks,

850
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: all the shotguns, all the bullets, all the dogs, all

851
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: the fast cars. Criminals don't stand a chance in this

852
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: American normal. It needs fun normal, what y'all y'all overdo everything?

853
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: One had a horse If he comes this much to

854
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: get away from a motherfucker, then remember cops robbers. Robbers

855
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: at least had a chance to get around the corner,

856
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: but not a ship in right there. Helicopter showed up

857
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: with a tank on it. Blew the motherfuck up. There's

858
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: nothing look and it's running investigation, which it was suspectable.

859
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: A really good point and that is, how do we

860
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: attract younger people? Too? Long there want more athletic offices, Well,

861
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: they need to be right, But how do we attract

862
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: young people and from our neighborhoods? Right? And I agree

863
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: we look at the military. But the other thing that

864
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: we have to do, and I think this will help

865
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: in our communities, is we have to do a better

866
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: job of making sure that we can mentally unpack what

867
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: happens on a daily basis. And what I mean is,

868
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: you know, for thirty years, the first time I got

869
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: a psych test psyche evaluation was when I was trying

870
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: to get a job. And so all the things that

871
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: you see on the giving flesh, you have to get

872
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: them once a year too, And that's my point. And

873
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: that's and say that's something else we have to change

874
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: at least once, if not twice a year, at least

875
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: when an incident occurs. How can we better do a

876
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: better job of getting services so that they can unpack

877
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: as well so safe answers? You win this election? Right

878
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: when I win? When do you win? Saying I'm just

879
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking live what how would you I don't know

880
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: where it is going. Look at your sheriff's department were

881
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of culture. Since we're talking about the cultural what

882
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: type of culture would you like to have in your outfit?

883
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Like what are going to be some of the requirements

884
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: to work around or under? You know, sheriff of about

885
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I was able to

886
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: do as ten years as chief was start with customer service. Right,

887
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: My goal for everyone that was in my department, and

888
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: the same thing with the Sheriff's office. If I cannot

889
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: figure out how to help you as a customer, right,

890
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: I don't care for you a detainee. I don't care

891
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: if you get stopped on the side of the road,

892
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is. If I can't help you as a customer,

893
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: I haven't done my job. If I cannot add value

894
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: to whatever is happening, whether it be a stop or

895
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: whether you've stopped on the side of the road. How

896
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: many times has anybody seen somebody stopped on the side

897
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: of the road and you see police officers and chef

898
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: definite fly right by, right, I figured that has more

899
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: important if the blue lights on, they't had nothing else

900
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: to do, right, And my point being is that they

901
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: should be able to help. And this is the other

902
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: thing that you hold troue is, especially in law enforcement,

903
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: it seems to be that people become more patient about

904
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before time for them to get off, right,

905
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: and somebody the police be switching shifts. I can't tell

906
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: you all that. Well, hell, you said, may be more patient,

907
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: so I can bet SI let's go into traffic man.

908
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: They might let us go on. No, But my point

909
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: is we should pack that all the way through our shifts.

910
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: We should pack that patience all the way through our

911
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: shifts and add value. And so if the shifts too

912
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: long and in some insences or maybe they should, we

913
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: should go to twelve hours and give them more off time, right,

914
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: so that the things will be able to do that.

915
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't y'all need no more benefits. Y'all got everything.

916
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: Y'all ain't getting ship else, well, they ain't about and

917
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: keep using what you've been using. They But if we

918
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: continue to do what we've always done, well, always always

919
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: too much. So we got too much ship. You gotta

920
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: be able to attract people. You gotta be able to

921
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: retain good quality officers and deputies. And that's part of it, right,

922
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: And so one of the things that we have to

923
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: do is be able to really create that attraction. One

924
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: of the things I'm gonna do is create a cyber

925
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: swat team. And that's what the lead. Let me listen

926
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: to me, listen to them, a white ladies who called

927
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: them the police? Where is their task force? But you

928
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't let me finish? All right? He want

929
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: to squat team. Whether average age is less than twenty

930
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: four years old? Right, So now we got young officers

931
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: coming in and a feel that in I T. Phiel

932
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: right where they can go after these pedophiles. All right,

933
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: they can go after these criminals Atlanta's number two for

934
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: um sex for sex trafficking. Right, we can go after

935
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: these folks. But now you have recruited a younger force.

936
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Somebody to say, I'm proud to be a part of

937
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office old force too. For these old white

938
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: ladies who called the police and everybody, they need a

939
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: task force too, that what was ain't nothing, ain't working

940
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: on nothing for them. We want we want you to

941
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: to if you see something, we want you to say something.

942
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: But they're making up ship. You've seen the video was

943
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is be black, they call it,

944
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: and they're telling the police and everywhere meet in your life,

945
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: bad watching, but check this out, right. But but she

946
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: lost her job, right, and and he survived that situation.

947
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: And that's the important thing is that we have to

948
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: be able to continue. Uh you know, I hope it's

949
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: not a strategy, but we have to really lean into

950
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: making sure these conversations. I want you to let all

951
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: the officers know that the black community is not in

952
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: that police man. We just don't we tied on one

953
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: side of brutality in the mistreatment. If that's what the

954
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: police is gonna do, spread that ship around. Well, everybody asksbody,

955
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: I lay everybody, don't just treat my community stuff. And

956
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: that's why I want to turn to this camera and

957
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: say it because it might be some officers out there

958
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: who wont and do the black people not like us.

959
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: We do. It's only because you don't like us in

960
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: the certain aspects of the go to be right though,

961
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: certain aspects of police and just don't apply to us.

962
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Like I've seen other people get pulled over and then

963
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: fuck you asshole, right to take it? Take it you did,

964
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: dick head. You didn't have anything better to do. There

965
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: is nobody trapping. Huh, you couldn't go up the trap?

966
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: Where's DeAndre pat Come on, give me your damn fashion number. Yeah, exactly,

967
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: got to call my congressman. Exactly. Don't be out of

968
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: work in the morning. You're never working this town again.

969
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: And that could be real. And where is the task

970
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: force for them? But if we get pulled over and

971
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: be like what you say, officer, get off, goddamn that

972
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: goddamn phone down, it's just the difference of the enforcing

973
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: of the laws. Here's the thing we got to keep

974
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: in mind. A lot of this has been going on

975
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: for years because you ain't staying in the better not right.

976
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: But here's the thing you do, well, here's the thing,

977
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: and here's what you gotta keep in mind in leadership.

978
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to accept the criticism, right and

979
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: then figure out how we we get better. You have

980
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: had to discipline the officers for like being a dirty officer.

981
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: I have fired people for being a dirty officer after

982
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: the investigation. Right, yeah, I gottivem. You do process, right.

983
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: I have fired people and civilians have brought them back

984
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: to work, wow, because they said I was being too harsh. Right, yeah,

985
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: But I mean that those things happen, and these are

986
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: these are a civilian route review board of their peers. Right.

987
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: And when I say that peers, I mean our community.

988
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean police officers been at work and then

989
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: just look around the jail and be like, how did

990
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: they catch all of these black people and no white folks.

991
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. When I first started,

992
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: because I went I'm from here, right, went to Frederick

993
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Douglas High School. Every Friday night. I walked in there.

994
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: I thought it was a class class for union, right,

995
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: And I would say, right, it's it's four hundred people

996
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: in here. How come fifteen? What right are people not

997
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: calling the police? And that's the key, right, we call

998
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: the police on each other. We're not calling the police

999
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: because somebody's singing too loud in the choir. Right, we're

1000
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: calling police because something is happening, and we just have

1001
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: to figure out how to better servant. What I mean

1002
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: is this if, especially if there's a mental issue associated

1003
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: with it, right, we have to make sure that we

1004
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, armed with the resources, but when

1005
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: we got specialists, you have nothing come take care about.

1006
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm mentally ill, and so we we have to get

1007
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: better at it. And and that's the you know what

1008
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean. But I know me, I always think, and

1009
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: this is a you know, you know, we know you

1010
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: can't really you don't say anything to this because it's

1011
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: probably gonna be, you know, bad for your basic But

1012
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: sometimes I think you should be able to send a

1013
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: little bit of dope. Man, you pushing, I'm saying pushing.

1014
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: You know it sounds crazy, but I mean, come on,

1015
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: man like pushing. Come what the fund? Come on, I

1016
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: gotta go to jail for for this bullshit. You know

1017
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm not out here trying to fuck

1018
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: the community up. They do need to trying to high

1019
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: let me, it's some good. It's some good drug dealers

1020
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: out there that look out for the community when nobody

1021
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: else will, especially especially if you're responsible drug dealing and

1022
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: you're selling your drugs to adults who go to work

1023
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: for their money. All right, this is but let me

1024
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: be clear. Let me be clear. If you break the

1025
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: long yeah, and I'm the share and he to share,

1026
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: you want to jail. He gonna say, but you know,

1027
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, because I'm imposed. But that's what I'm saying.

1028
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm good at market. But hey, who, that's what I mean.

1029
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: Like that, the leniency that is applied across to everybody

1030
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: else should be applied to us as well, Like I

1031
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't you you pulling up on me and catching me

1032
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: with something as especially as a black man. You know

1033
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: what I mean? You understand that the trials and tribulations

1034
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: that we're facing these communities, and a lot of that

1035
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: stuff is passed down. It's not something that we went

1036
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: and learned. We got it inherently. It was given to us.

1037
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: So I'm saying that leon See that's given to Chad.

1038
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: No disrespect Chad, but you know you got that. You

1039
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: know you got that Caucasian name chat straight. But like

1040
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: the leon See that's given to a Chad Like look, man, hey,

1041
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying don't do this anymore. A right,

1042
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this from me. IM gonna let you

1043
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: go on about your way. I catch you again, it's

1044
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: over with, Like, how do you Is that not something

1045
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: that's realistic that can be done, because that's how you

1046
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: create a difference in opinion about the police, Like, Okay,

1047
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: they're not just trying to funk me over for making mistakes.

1048
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: That's how you change the mentality of a mistake. Is

1049
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: that a mistake? I think it is because I know

1050
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: everything I did in the streets was just because of

1051
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: willful ignorance and me not knowing no better. Yeah, but

1052
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: at a certain point that's where I was. But it's

1053
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: how hypothetical at a certain point if you want people

1054
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: to have positive outlooks on the police. I know that

1055
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: if I'm a black man and I got a son

1056
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'm out trying to provide make away in whatever

1057
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: way I'm doing, and whether it be legal or illegal,

1058
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: but let's just safe for conversation purposes, it's illegal when

1059
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: I come back in the house and be like, man,

1060
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: sure if the band man he looked out for he

1061
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: had good dude. I'm telling that to my children now.

1062
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: They don't have the same mentality because you did something

1063
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: for me to help me, and not just punish me

1064
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: because I made a mistake. Now you catch me again.

1065
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: This over with and I got it right. But hypothetically,

1066
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing that you gotta keep in mind. What

1067
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: is untold the number of times somebody has stopped somebody

1068
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: for d U I and said, do you have a

1069
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: girlfriend that can come pick up the car? Or or

1070
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: you have somebody again? Don't say no, right right, I

1071
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: don't know right. But at the same time, how do

1072
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: you sit and say this is an absolute right because

1073
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: it's up to it it is, You're absolutely right. And

1074
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing is it's the officer's discretion and we're

1075
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: not talking, and these things happen because we're not talking

1076
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: about you getting stopped and you got ten pounds a

1077
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: week in the car somebody with half an ounce of reggie,

1078
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: and he's been settling this for six months. He's just

1079
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: trying to get the reggie off. It's hard to sell.

1080
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: But then you catch me with my last So I'm

1081
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: almost done. I almost got it all the way off

1082
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: now and I get I get stopped, and now I

1083
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: got to go to jail after all this hard work,

1084
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: like come on office and you can take this ship.

1085
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: I was about to sell it, and but don't lock

1086
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: me up for the ragic tell Now the question becomes,

1087
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: they don't lock you up. How many of us said,

1088
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: who I got away? Let me start over with my reggie.

1089
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean that comes in, you're right, So the second

1090
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: time you're okay with get the rest of the second Yeah,

1091
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: because that's on you. If you if you wanted the

1092
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that's so horrible of a drug dealer that you

1093
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: get caught, that should be your sign. It's not for you, Champ,

1094
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: but you if you ignore the fact that God gave

1095
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: you a blessing and and you got caught and ain't

1096
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: go to jail and you get caught again, that's on you.

1097
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: But I think that this should be some form of

1098
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: liency because a lot of these elements in our community. Sure,

1099
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: if we don't have any control over these the gun

1100
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: we don't the guns and the open all that was

1101
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: put there, We don't have the ability to be able

1102
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: to utilize these things on our own, like these are

1103
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: is generational, like everything that's that My my father was murdered,

1104
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: so I grew up without a father in the home. Now,

1105
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: mind you, I was lucky enough to learn how to

1106
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: be responsible early, not to make the decisions that a

1107
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: lot of my peers made, but at the end of

1108
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: the day, I could have because there is no guidance

1109
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: there that and this is going on all across America.

1110
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: So at this point I think that that level of

1111
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: leniency should be applied to us because of the years

1112
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: and years of systematic oppression that have happened. And it's like,

1113
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: I know that you are struggling with something that you

1114
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: have no control over. So understand that I understand that

1115
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: I know that, or assume that. I mean, depending on

1116
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: the situation. Yeah, I mean you gotta know that. Like

1117
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times that, mind you, you go to

1118
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: the suburbs, lot of all that motherfucker's up. Let me

1119
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: tell you what we're gonna do when I'm sure if

1120
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where we are, suburbs in a city,

1121
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: if you break the law, your ass is going to jail.

1122
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: But there are things that we can do better. Right,

1123
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: we certainly want to execute uh discretion. We certainly want

1124
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: to want to use that. But even how many times

1125
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: has somebody been locked up and said, you know, what

1126
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: I was treated professionally, I knew you're gonna say that

1127
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: this is what we gotta change, right, and now I

1128
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: got an opportunity. Now I got an opportunity. So at

1129
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: both sides of that. And certainly I don't compare um

1130
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: and certainly your your father being being not in your

1131
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: life because somebody else, uh took him. My father wasn't

1132
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: in life in my life because of my choices, but

1133
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: he's the choices, right, and so but the point being

1134
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: is I had to figure out am I gonna carry

1135
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: that anger around or go figure out how to do better? Right?

1136
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: And to your point, look, I was a left turn

1137
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: away from making some bad choices. And that's what I'm saying. Sure,

1138
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: if that process that you go through, you're gonna slip

1139
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: and bump your head in that process of figuring it out,

1140
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: because the options for us to do, of the things

1141
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: that we can do are very slim and limited. Therefore,

1142
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: in that process, if you know, if you see that

1143
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: this environment is treacherous and this person is trying to

1144
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: make uh you know, sense of whatever that reality is,

1145
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: and you come in contact with the police, there should

1146
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: be some sort of discretion or or you know, just

1147
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: empathy towards these people to where you say, hey, young hey,

1148
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: young man, come in, man, I know what you're out

1149
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: here doing. I know what you got going on. Look,

1150
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna but I A'm gonna crack you over

1151
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: the head. But I'm telling you, man, you're going I

1152
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: catch you again, and if you get if I catch

1153
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: you out here again, you're going. And that right there

1154
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: does so much for police interaction, and I think it

1155
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: would be so much at least interaction in our communities

1156
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: because you know that you're not just there. That's like

1157
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: you said, serve and protect the law. You're really here

1158
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: for my best interest, and you're proving to me that

1159
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: I can trust the fact that you actually care about

1160
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: my situation. They got too many code words too, to

1161
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: like where there's a hot concentration to black people. I

1162
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: don't like the words and the verbage that they used

1163
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: to try to make it seem like there's always a

1164
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: clear and present danger, Like they always say crime infested communities.

1165
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: What the funk is a crame infested community. But that's

1166
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: why we got to get in the communities and be

1167
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: a part of the communities, right, so you can have

1168
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: those conversations I tell you, more often than not, those

1169
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: presences make ship worse because it adds to the tension

1170
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: and the pressure and the struggle of trying to get

1171
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: out of this place. And then you you're doing what

1172
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: you have to do and trying to survive this environment,

1173
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: and then there's this constant presence of if you have

1174
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: this interaction, you know that this is gonna go bad

1175
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: just because you're where your local and you're in what

1176
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: you call a high traffic, crime infested community, which really

1177
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: just means where black people live. So let me right,

1178
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: and if we're in that, in that environment, right, and

1179
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: you see me walk up, what you're gonna say? No, No,

1180
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you see you mean walk up. I don't mean.

1181
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't mean. I don't mean that. I don't mean

1182
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: that assistance. You got to catch chic over one foot.

1183
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: We got a flear, right, but he got it flear

1184
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: because look at you. But that's what I'm saying, that

1185
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: we're in that environment and you walk up. I know

1186
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: you ain't looking for me because when the sheriff come out,

1187
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: he looking he's serving that big one. But the point

1188
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: I make it, the point I make it exactly. I

1189
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: know I'm not even a criminal. If you're walking around

1190
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, you have that ship on with that big

1191
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: ass for it and at one badge right there, the

1192
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: calls come here, how are you doing? And now all

1193
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: the things in the hood they got no you are

1194
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: you gonna be coming back looking for one of them,

1195
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: because they as soon as you leave volte to that

1196
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: volt to that he knew them fault, man, they knew

1197
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: the fault. I knew that. Won't police ahead, But how

1198
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: do we change that creating the element of landsy in

1199
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: regards to our communities. Don't put nobody in these communities

1200
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: that don't truly understand what we're going through. And I'm

1201
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: not talking about the bitch as niggers out the community

1202
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: to go be a police so they can come back.

1203
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about somebody who really understands and gets what

1204
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: these people are going through. And if you're gonna be

1205
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: in our community and you see the things that are

1206
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: going on, you know this dude ain't out here doing

1207
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: this because that's what he want to do. Since since

1208
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: they want to do that, and I'm not cutting you offs,

1209
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but like you're saying, the police

1210
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: need to be in the communities. It needs to be

1211
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: some kind of way. It's like, if they're gonna put

1212
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: these officers in these in these areas and you know

1213
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: that it's criming fester that you know that it's impoverished,

1214
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: they need to go back and check with the residents

1215
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: and get a quarterly or yearly evaluation and take those

1216
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: those you know, those stories in the account with this officer.

1217
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: He known for doing this, He violated people like this,

1218
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: because that's how these officers to become known in the

1219
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: neighborhoods for all the wrong ship that they do. Well,

1220
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, and and let's let's take this

1221
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: opportunity instead of being fleet the foot right, instead of

1222
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: taking off when you see me right, we've had this

1223
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: conversation so lowas instead of you you know, hey, you

1224
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: know what, you ain't no point y'all running I know,

1225
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: Pat exactly at the point, at some point you might

1226
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: have to run if you call me wrong, I might

1227
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: have to give you the chase. Lance. That's that's the

1228
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: whole part. You just take the fleeing charge instead of

1229
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: this all the way right. Well something, and that's why

1230
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: I say conversations like that, Bill trust right. So if

1231
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: I if I roll up and a matter of fact,

1232
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: you ready to jump on me tonight because you let

1233
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: you pulled up just like a street dude. You just

1234
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: rolled the window down. I know you. I don't know

1235
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: him now if I sunk around and then I talked

1236
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: to him and he jumped out, he undercover. You was

1237
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: there the hold damn And I ain't never see you

1238
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: as But what made you comfortable enough to talk? Black?

1239
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: He was black? What made you comfortab enough to talk?

1240
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: I just told you he wrote it winter down? You

1241
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: peecked through there? You recognize me? Yeah, I ain't. I'm

1242
01:08:54,200 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: definitely not that dumb. Just at the undercut you said

1243
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: in the community. Brou in the community. But let me

1244
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: tell you bring your boys, he said, telling the story.

1245
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: He tells the story because the first thing that happened

1246
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: when that went to roll down, he looked before he

1247
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: looked at me because we didn't know which which way

1248
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: house was at right, I'll tell you the truth. He

1249
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: wasn't running. I act like I ain't know what he'ven

1250
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: talking about. He showed it eighty five. He would get

1251
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: and tell me how to get to eighty five. And

1252
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: he showed what why you want to know what's going on.

1253
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: Then he recognized me, which is my entire point. He

1254
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: just made my point. If we can build that kind

1255
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: of trust just from one interview, right and even now,

1256
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: then anything is possible. And I really believe I'm telling

1257
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: you that trust building that trust the officers comes with

1258
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: leniency because in the community's crime is one of the

1259
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: only options that we've been given for monetary games. And

1260
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: then you gotta keep in mind, in the areas that

1261
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: we're living in the ship, y'all considered illegal is a

1262
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: way of life, That's what I mean. Like, so when

1263
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: you come into the community, for me to be like

1264
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: a man that's pat he cool. You got to really

1265
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: do something to make me feel like you're cool. And

1266
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: that entails for the most part, as tough as this

1267
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: maybe man, let me slide. Man, I'm sucked up right now.

1268
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: I was out here throwing something and let me slide, Pat,

1269
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: So you super cover that. Yeah, damn about it? Daughter, right,

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Speaker 1: and you know fair with daughters. I don't like daughters,

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: but my two boys. Right. You know you ever tried, well,

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you've had tried to try to

1273
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: have a conversation with a ht guy, right, it blows.

1274
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: But I was, I was, that's a bad question that you, right,

1275
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: don't question to ask you because they can't keep up

1276
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: with the conversation. So one of their friends was was

1277
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: Haza Kite, right, and he came over to the house,

1278
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to figure out why am I trying

1279
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with him? Right? But it leans

1280
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: back to what you were saying. It's really going back

1281
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: to say, there's a better time to have this conversation

1282
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: if there is no harm that can come up their friends, right.

1283
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: But now if there's harm or they have the potential

1284
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: to harm somebody else, what what's gonna happen? You? You know?

1285
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean, right, But we have to

1286
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: build that trust because just as equally as much that

1287
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: equal is important is if you want me to trust

1288
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: if you want me to trust you to trust me,

1289
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: I gotta trust you, right, which is cool. But like

1290
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: I said, man, I really believe there should be some

1291
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: type of you know, whether it be under the table, ship,

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01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: y'all don't snitch on each other than ship at the office,

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: So hey, get the cops together. That's like, look, man,

1294
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be over there. You're gonna catch any

1295
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: some motherfucker's down bad. But hey, let them rock, if

1296
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, give him a shot to understand. Look, we're

1297
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: here to enforce the law. But I understand what's going on.

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: All the things that you just said in explain to us.

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: They got the citizens program, they got all these different

1300
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: programs you can go get involved in to counter act that.

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01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: So the fact that you didn't know, I'm just gonna

1302
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: let I'm gonna consider the fact that you didn't know

1303
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: and me catching you up bad right now? So now,

1304
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: did you know there is no excuse for you that

1305
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: for me to ever have to come back here and

1306
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: see you doing the same thing. And I don't disagree

1307
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: with you, but I think what happens is there are

1308
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: a lot of good officers out there, a lot of

1309
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: good deputis out there, whether those things happen, but it's

1310
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: not publicized, right. I can tell you that the number

1311
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: officers that have allowed people to say, you know what,

1312
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell your car man, right, but

1313
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: but your license suspended? Right, that's the only really nondiscretional

1314
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: peace and the whole process of somebody going to jail suspended,

1315
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: like I ain't forgot how to drive, I still know

1316
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: how to drink, and like I just I just know

1317
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: that there's no that there's never been in they as

1318
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: a as a whole. Some people might experience it and

1319
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: might have been able to run into those officers who

1320
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: got a good heart and understand, but that is far

1321
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: and few between. Don't waste my lenience here on the seatbelt.

1322
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: Let me go. When I did, let me ask you this,

1323
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: do you feel like more do you feel like officers

1324
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: know the difference between criminals and civilians? So, because I

1325
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: feel like some civilians of being treated like criminals. So

1326
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: here's here's the here's the first thing i'd ask you,

1327
01:13:53,439 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: what's the difference. What's the difference criminals of criminal? Can

1328
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: it civilian be a criminal? Yeah? That the difference is

1329
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: getting caught until you get caught. You just made my part.

1330
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: Yea criminal? You're a criminal. You do this ship all

1331
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: the time. This ain't your first route. But if you're

1332
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: a criminal tonight, you ain't a criminal yet. You just

1333
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: you just you did some crame. You gotta go to

1334
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: court and go to jail, and then when you get home,

1335
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: then you're a criminal, like a criminal the graduated through

1336
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: the justice system already. So here's what I prefer to say.

1337
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: Instead of determining if you're a criminal or if you're

1338
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: a citizen, right, if you're a repeat offender, right, and

1339
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: you especially violent repeat offenders, here's the thing that we

1340
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: have to really see. That's what y'all should do. You

1341
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: should have the ass whooping package for people who people

1342
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: who like violence, get them some violence. But people who

1343
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: sucking up in traffic, they don't deserve the violence. So

1344
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna get your ass wood for going

1345
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: nineties seven, Like nigger, that's a nice car. You're gonna

1346
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: beat me up because you're mad. My ship fast until

1347
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: you lose control of it and kill somebody until then

1348
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: save the ass. Woof the point I'm making exist for

1349
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: the fifth percent of the violent crimes are created by

1350
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: less than five people, right, we know who they are,

1351
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: who they as. Y'all don't mind going to people I

1352
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: was doing ship and later way we start with that

1353
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: is when I get elected. So you get elected, coming,

1354
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: motherfucker's getting asked for you again because they ain't even

1355
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: I stilldn't laughing for a whole hour, and I was like, man,

1356
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 1: they were pulled back on the sprint event they had

1357
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: your face coming up in h I look at my

1358
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: boy with the mine up skin clip pan the back,

1359
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: and then I went to the library and I voted,

1360
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: hey man, we ain't gonna keep your head all negers.

1361
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: We can talk to this ship out and you know

1362
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: you feminine us. It's just like you know, you don't go.

1363
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: That's the police now. Exact exactly, you don't the police now, man,

1364
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: And we wish you much success. And much like any

1365
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: other question from the floor, any questions from the floor,

1366
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: where can they great questions? So early voting has already started.

1367
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: So early voting will run through August seven. Right, early

1368
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: voting on the weekend, this weekend and next this Saturday

1369
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: and next. The actual election data is August eleven, and

1370
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: so the largest place to vote when we talked about

1371
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: it earlier is is State Farm. But you can certainly

1372
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: go to my website about for shaff and pull up

1373
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: all the early voting locations. Again, I do want to

1374
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: give a shout out to Fulton County. We went from

1375
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: six early voting locations to twenty and so over so

1376
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: over in uh Wolf Creek area. Right the reported lines

1377
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: and maybe take three minutes to vote. All right, so

1378
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: they've done a bunch better job. We don't expect that

1379
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: a great job getting your getting your sands out. I've

1380
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: been seeing them all through my through my negative woods.

1381
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I appreciate in the community you got

1382
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: definitely got a lot of support, and we appreciate you

1383
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: coming through the show. Any anything you need from us, man,

1384
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: you just let us know you're more than welcome to

1385
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: use our platform. I appreciate. And even after this and

1386
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: you win, and you got things coming up that you

1387
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: need the community to be a part of. We definitely

1388
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: wanted I want you all to be a part of

1389
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: what the future looks like. Most of it comes to

1390
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: law enforcement. So next time it won't be as a

1391
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: harder conversation because you all to be a part of it. Well,

1392
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: we had to make the second round harder, man, because

1393
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: we've let you slide the first chang. Then we got

1394
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: through in the comments, they were like, man, why y'all

1395
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: asking about prison reform? And I was like, we only

1396
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: had so much, so now that we've done, we just

1397
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: was busting you up a little bit. Man, I love you,

1398
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I appreciate it and how we'll get better, right,

1399
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: and so certainly thank you all for allowing me to

1400
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: play form. Get the people what kind of guy you

1401
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: really are, man, and they know what type of gas

1402
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: we are. So it's like we want you to act.

1403
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: We want you to be in here answering the hard

1404
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: ship first, because if you can deal with us talking

1405
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: like we talk, the press conferences and all that other stuff,

1406
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: that's a blessing. That's a blessing. Definitely, that's a blessing.

1407
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: It's certainly thank you all. Uh And if it's anything

1408
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: you need, you know, I'm here right, let's conversation. Put

1409
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: on my legs so they know to leave me alone.

1410
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: Just that one when they put the flash lighted on.

1411
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: If you ain't see it, it it is reflecting. Give me

1412
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: a couple of them. There you go, So again I

1413
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Ask me what question they asked the officer

1414
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 1: when he pulled me over. You know the lunches at

1415
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: six o'clock disease man, Go ahead, there you go. The

1416
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: watchman is watching to watch what you're watching? What fat

1417
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: I know, Fata go now, you'd be surprised most of

1418
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: the time. Most of the time they tell you you

1419
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: know what, you can call him from jail. Wow. Yeah,

1420
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: because you know I'm not the sheriff yet we got

1421
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: to get there. We gotta get there and then the

1422
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: other pieces. We have to create a balance. Right. We

1423
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: do want to be able to say to the officers

1424
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: and debtors, you know what, thank you for doing your job.

1425
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: That's what there you go? Is that what the police want?

1426
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: Police wants some praise? Is that? Is that what? You

1427
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: don't you like praise? I'm just saying that's not so dumb.

1428
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: Don't you like me to tell thank you? Hey man,

1429
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: what have they done? Good? Let's do now where you

1430
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: you asked, what have they done lately? Good? So you

1431
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: look over even in the university area where uh, several

1432
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: police officers and commanders went out and did nothing but

1433
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: to those needy, right, passed out gift cards, right, making

1434
01:19:55,439 --> 01:20:00,440
Speaker 1: sure people had an opportunity to continue to feed their family.

1435
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: All right, I mean, it's it's how we rebuild. Look,

1436
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 1: but we need sure Pat. We need him to win

1437
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: because we don't want the person who do win to

1438
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: come working with us for sucking with him. So that

1439
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. They probably have let's get him in

1440
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: office because they don't have they don't have a platform

1441
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: like this to come to. And we know that we

1442
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: were laughing with joking with comedians and stuff like that. Man,

1443
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: but the people heard exactly what they needed to hear.

1444
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: You're a real stand up dude, paddler back, and we

1445
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: wouldn't have it no other way. It ain't nobody else.

1446
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: Come on here and be the police. You're the only one.

1447
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: We ain't nobody else coming. You the only one that's

1448
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna ever be who you are and did what you did.

1449
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: Eighty five stop show my man paddling the back and

1450
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: we got your theme song. I'm gonna need it out. Yes,

1451
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: let's get the shot man holdo with my man's let

1452
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: me get it. You got your man handed Batman's man. Yeah,

1453
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: thank you, Joe. What's the time twelver? Once we got

1454
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: we got time for one more joint, all right, bet