WEBVTT - Daredevil: Born Again S2E04: “Gloves Off”

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<v Speaker 1>Warning today's episode. Can you spoilers for Daredevil board Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Season two, episode four be warned. Hello and it is

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Stepson. I'm Razy Night and welcome back to xt Revision,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies,

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<v Speaker 1>comics of pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Cover to you from our podcast where we're bringing you

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<v Speaker 2>three episodes week.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus news on Saturday. But today's not news.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Devil. Devil two oh four.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh baby, It's a great episode for me personally.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a crazy one.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a wild episode that I think the Netflix

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<v Speaker 4>lovers will love and I too loved it and we

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<v Speaker 4>will be recapping it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is called gloves Often.

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<v Speaker 4>It the comic book action gets comic book guys, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course then we'll be bringing in stup and producer

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<v Speaker 4>Aaron and probably boxing referee Aaron for our discussion on

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<v Speaker 4>this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>The first, let's get into it. Daredevil born a in

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<v Speaker 1>episode two or four Gloves Off. We open with Decks

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<v Speaker 1>making breakfast, making his bed, living just like a normal guy.

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<v Speaker 1>To Bellageles New York state of mind. He heads out,

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<v Speaker 1>gives a bumma dime, arrives at a local diner. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a just an open hearted serial killer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, never done anything wrong in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>He asks the lady at the counter, like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you recommend? She's like, we do a great milkshake. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>giving the milkshake. Then he calls nine to one one

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<v Speaker 1>and says, hey, I just saw the punisher enter a diner,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gives them the address where he is at.

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<v Speaker 1>Task Wor shows up and of course Dex kills them

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<v Speaker 1>all with four kind knives, a toothpick, and a lobster tail.

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<v Speaker 4>He kills a guy with a love he kills a

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<v Speaker 4>guy with the loves to tail, and then he squirts

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<v Speaker 4>in catch up the ball's eye logo on the door,

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<v Speaker 4>and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, it's so good good.

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<v Speaker 4>And my favorite moment as well, he has so much

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<v Speaker 4>fun saying it is when one of the non Task

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<v Speaker 4>Force members, because Dex only kills ice agents, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>tight Taskforce members, he only kills them, and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>don't bring a dog into a diner. That's unhygienic, and

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<v Speaker 4>the customer goes, please don't kill me, and he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I wouldn't do that. I'm one of the good guys.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's so good, and then he walks out and

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<v Speaker 4>there's like forty dead Task Force members in this diner.

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<v Speaker 4>The can I just say he compliments the waitress on

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<v Speaker 4>a delicious milkshake which he drunk all of We wow,

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<v Speaker 4>you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say, I just want to shout out whoever it

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<v Speaker 1>was that's eating a lobster tail, right eating the.

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<v Speaker 4>More seriously also as welling Jason do this how many

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<v Speaker 4>as a former New Yorker, you know this is one

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<v Speaker 4>of those very famous locations.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that when he walks.

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<v Speaker 4>In, it's the classic, you know, side diner that we

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<v Speaker 4>always see in New York, the Metal Diner. Obviously that changes,

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<v Speaker 4>what's what's your favorite diner to eat lobster in at

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<v Speaker 4>a am in the morning in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>And none zero none.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, don't use it from a diner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a good idea. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a new Mayor Kingpin video in which the

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<v Speaker 1>masked Mayor who we know as BBI, is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk's upcoming boxing match and how it's a distraction from

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that are going on and the and

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<v Speaker 1>it's also talking about the fact that the boxing thing

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<v Speaker 1>is is a huge like money laundering scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, corruption in sports. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen is at the hideout filming resistant statements with the

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<v Speaker 1>freed prisoners. Jack is there take a shower, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>promises to help Matt. Angela offers to take Karen's SD

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<v Speaker 1>card of the resistance videos interviews to her source. Angela

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<v Speaker 1>is like, uh, and Angela would like to know for

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<v Speaker 1>like the absolute million time that listen, I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing it for my aunt, you know, are you doing

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<v Speaker 3>it for my dad?

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<v Speaker 1>And Karen is like, I don't know. It's not safe.

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<v Speaker 1>You're four foot ten and this is very dangerous stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And Matt's like, yeah, let let her do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Peace. Yeah right, yeah, she's wearing the amulet. Let

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<v Speaker 2>her do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he asks her like, do you understand that this

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<v Speaker 1>is that as Uncle Ben would.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, I was good to say, or I I'll go

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<v Speaker 4>bed with.

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<v Speaker 2>With low to medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Power comes greater responsibility than the average person. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Matt hears something, you know, with his superhering it's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the it's somebody coming to the hideout and

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<v Speaker 1>it's Christophe, the first Mate, and he's here to help

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<v Speaker 1>the resistance. Meanwhile, Vanessa takes her little gun that she

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<v Speaker 1>got from Buck.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that little gun.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, like Carving, I feel like there's a plot here

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<v Speaker 4>that we're not saying or something that's Buck is. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people feel like there's a Buck Vanessa a

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<v Speaker 4>fag going.

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<v Speaker 2>On in the show.

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<v Speaker 4>There's been a lot of talk about that there is

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<v Speaker 4>a little romance there, but I feel like they're not

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<v Speaker 4>giving us full answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean there there is the fact that Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Hey, Heather, you need a new guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>know who's really sexy and hot? This guy Buck that

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<v Speaker 1>so she's she's eyed him up clearly. So she takes

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<v Speaker 1>her little gun to her meeting with the governor, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa doesn't like. She tells Wilson that Wilson is sending

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<v Speaker 1>her to meet the governor in Almony when he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the fight. She wants to be at the fight, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's true.

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<v Speaker 5>Safety ducks is out there, gees are out there. It's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a major target for the vigilanties of

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<v Speaker 5>her decks. I watched the safe.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's like whatever. Karen interviews Christof about the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>What was on the boat and we get we hear

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<v Speaker 1>everything that we already know is filled with guns is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with fake documents. All the paperwork in the on

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<v Speaker 1>the boat was signed by Fisk personally. Why are you

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I don't understand, Like what you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>freeport that's like lawless?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they and why are you signing your name

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<v Speaker 2>on that? What is the paper work for?

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<v Speaker 1>Karen and Matt call in to McDuffie because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the statements thing is getting out of They've got real

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<v Speaker 1>stuff now and they want to get it on the record.

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<v Speaker 1>We also learned that the fight, the cooking in the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen or whatever it is, is taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>In Matt's dad's old Jim fog.

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<v Speaker 4>Wells insane insane behavior like this is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>craziest most comic bookie things of all time. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>remember that traumatic thing that happened to your dad and

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<v Speaker 4>where it happened. Well, guess what, We're going back there

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<v Speaker 4>for another traumatic thing that's gonna happen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So they hit so they you know, they have a

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<v Speaker 1>they have their marching orders.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen will handle getting the interviews to McDuffie so that

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<v Speaker 1>McDuffie can get them on the record.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt will find decks for.

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<v Speaker 1>Reasons and they trade I love yous and they leave

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<v Speaker 1>the task Force raid McDuffie and Murdoch. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised they haven't done this before. And they're like, where's

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<v Speaker 1>Jacques Duquine, the Swordsman? And he's not there. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>McDuffie's like, he's not fucking here, why would he be here?

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys suck.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very clear that Powell is doing this specifically

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<v Speaker 1>as a message to Matt, who continues to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Fisk is pissed that all the caged people

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<v Speaker 1>escaped from the rent. He's a black site before it

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<v Speaker 1>blew up, and GEX is on the loose, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>leaks coming from inside of his office that are being

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<v Speaker 1>turned into masked videos that make him look foolish.

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<v Speaker 2>Fisk wants all of this cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 1>He is very very passed me whilester c not happy. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Charles, who is taking on this Brad Pitt in

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<v Speaker 1>Ocean's eleven, I'm eating all the time, right, I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's cracking me up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's his power play.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess shows up and is like, hey, the guns

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<v Speaker 1>I and we find out now this is connected to

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<v Speaker 1>a much larger thing. I need the guns somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're struck at your port. You told me you

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to transit my guns through your port

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<v Speaker 1>so that I could get them to where I need them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it you're slowing everything down and you're fucking my

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<v Speaker 1>business up. And Fisk is like, well, I can't move

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<v Speaker 1>them right now because of.

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<v Speaker 4>This whole thing his toss for like, come on, guy.

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<v Speaker 2>They argue about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Charles points out that you have an arrangement with

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<v Speaker 1>like bigger dogs than you, and you better fucking go

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<v Speaker 1>through with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the governor breathing down your neck about the charter,

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<v Speaker 1>and mister Charles is like, I don't think you're up

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<v Speaker 1>to this. I frankly like we thought you were better

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<v Speaker 1>than you are and maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just washed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck reaches for his gun, but mister Charles has his

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<v Speaker 1>guys step out of the shadows and then Buck immediately

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<v Speaker 1>shoots the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys in there, like sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, sorry, bitch, absolutely not like you hided two

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<v Speaker 4>random guys like a miss the Sea is like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't come here without protecting myself. A Buck's like okay, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Fisk is like, be patient, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>You at New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, hey, just New York. I'll get I'll get you

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<v Speaker 5>your gun.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Sea, uh not, like, honestly flop that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 3>You got more guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he good?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you gotta do your do your opposition research

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<v Speaker 1>on Bucke, realize that he's actually good at his job.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take a quick break and we'll be right

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<v Speaker 2>raw back.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen in the Wig comes to see McDuffie.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves this man. I know, I think her and

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<v Speaker 2>Matt with the wig, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was gonna say, there's a little role play little Jessica

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<v Speaker 4>Jones Matt Roplake and she so she.

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<v Speaker 1>Comes to McDuffie and gets her to do the witness

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<v Speaker 1>statement so it's all official and on the record.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>McDuffie wants to know, and Karen's like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know I can't I can't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa chats with the governor the governor is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's your husband, but I don't like the

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<v Speaker 1>way he does business. And Vanessa's like, well, they is booming,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's the fucking problem?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the the doao. Look at the dow, bitch, look

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<v Speaker 7>at that dome, the dow, the doll And the governor

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<v Speaker 7>is like, well, you know here's my thing. Woman to woman,

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<v Speaker 7>boss bitch to boss bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why you were doing great on your own right,

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<v Speaker 1>running the criminal I guess she's saying, like running the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal empire.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's just like, yeah, she's like you.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, if one of you is going to go

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<v Speaker 4>into politics, I feel like it could have been you, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like why you don't need him? You could do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And she basically says like, hey, I'll back you like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's mate, what do you think about moving Fisk out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. He's causing a lot of problems. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say this explicitly, but she suggests it like I

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<v Speaker 1>can back I can back you, and and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>tangential to that, I'll back Fisk, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you want to be my shadow man?

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<v Speaker 2>Facing? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Angela goes to her friend Jabbi who's working at the

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<v Speaker 1>food truck and gives him some money and the st

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<v Speaker 1>card of the interviews and wants him to deliver it

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<v Speaker 1>clearly to Bebe, which is, I don't understand why Angela

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<v Speaker 1>can't deliver it to Bbe or mail it to.

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<v Speaker 6>Her like.

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<v Speaker 3>A random teenage boy do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, come on? Absolutely fine?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Matt goes to the diner to investigate, dressed as

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<v Speaker 1>a task Force guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm task Force, Move out of here, murdered detectives like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm task Force and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pulling right and I'm looking her up.

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<v Speaker 1>Finds the church token at the diner and goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the so decides to go to the church. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the church, talks to the priest about growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in the church, and then wants to know, hey, did

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<v Speaker 1>did the serial killer Bullseye come here?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gad did he get did he say this guy

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<v Speaker 3>to a dime?

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<v Speaker 1>And the and the priest's heart jumps, so Matt knows, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he has been here. Matt heads over to the apartment

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<v Speaker 1>and Dex is there to Dex's apartment and they fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Dex is like, no, I'm a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm a good guy. Now I want to help.

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<v Speaker 4>And the whole he's like, I only killed the toss

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<v Speaker 4>ball was like, I didn't kill anyone, and.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you know that they're bad and you love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, so they talk about it and Dex is like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa and Fisk, I blame them for making me into this.

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<v Speaker 1>They turned me into this, which is true, they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Dex needs to take some responsibility. But Vanessa and Fisk

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<v Speaker 1>exacerbated and ongoing mental health SA turned him into a

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that did happen. And he's like, well, now

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do good. I want to balance the scales.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's saying this while he's holding the landlady hostage,

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<v Speaker 1>who by the way, I really liked him, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he didn't need to.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, she was a fan. You didn't need to

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<v Speaker 2>do this.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he's obsessed with this idea of balancing the

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<v Speaker 4>scales and one good deed, like he can do one

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<v Speaker 4>good deed that's gonna make everything better.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, his one good deed kill Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>Fish, which finally, come on, man, no one will do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dex escapes.

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<v Speaker 2>He hits a delivery man with a can. He throws

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<v Speaker 2>a can and then the delivery guy on an e bike. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so you can like imagine the from the comic book,

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<v Speaker 4>like the image of the town with the shell cambind

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<v Speaker 4>and then it says like kathun like he just bumped

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<v Speaker 4>right out there. I mean, they use Dex's powers in

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<v Speaker 4>such a good, hilarious in this show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's insists insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Christoph now testifies on tape to McDuffie.

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<v Speaker 2>He puts everything on the kingpin. As we know.

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<v Speaker 1>McDuffie is like, Okay, I'm gonna get you somewhere safe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call the US Marshals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cutting I'm cutting the local I'm cutting local law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement completely out of it. The US Marshals will keep

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<v Speaker 1>you safe. Bbe shows up at the fight as a

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<v Speaker 1>guest of Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on Hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy shows up and is like, oh my god, bb

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<v Speaker 1>bby Urick of the Baby reports.

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<v Speaker 2>You shit, Can I get it? Can I get a selfie?

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<v Speaker 1>And he slips the SD card in her pocket. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>gets a little suspicious, maybe a little jealous notices. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not sly enough that Dan did not notice something

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. And again I ask you, why did

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<v Speaker 1>it have to be here? Why did it have to

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<v Speaker 1>be now? You couldn't mail it to her apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't just like meet her outside of her good

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<v Speaker 2>her place.

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<v Speaker 4>You couldn't have like a mailman drop it to Hub

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<v Speaker 4>or like put it inside the store where you could

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<v Speaker 4>do like an exchange like you've been doing before, Like

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<v Speaker 4>you had to let some teenagers get involved, like a

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<v Speaker 4>couple on shit out of goods.

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<v Speaker 2>And it had to be in the presence of the Kingpins,

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<v Speaker 2>like like very air apparent and various members of the

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<v Speaker 2>Kingpin staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Fisk is preparing for the fight. He's backstage preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for the fight. Buckets a text and it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go. Powell is like, okay, well, Buck's not here.

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<v Speaker 1>I will handle your personal security of the fight. I

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<v Speaker 1>will make sure that Dexter and whoever like the Swordsman

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<v Speaker 1>and anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>No mass vigilantes will get in here. I promised you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't trust Powell. I'm not gonna lie job he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan comes back to his seat with like like a

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<v Speaker 1>budget he's got so much merch, and he's got this

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<v Speaker 1>little crystal like Fisk crystal like keep and all this

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<v Speaker 1>like little stuff, and he's like so so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Buck.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out was sent over to take out Christoph

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<v Speaker 1>and the Marshals say.

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<v Speaker 2>Which he does easily.

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<v Speaker 1>He fucking wipes out the Marshals and assassinates Christoph, no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>he does it. Kingpin, who is absolutely murdering his opponent

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<v Speaker 1>in the fucking ring, like to the point where people

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<v Speaker 1>are looking around like Jesus Christ, like fucking hell, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy because the Kingpin is of course like thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about all the vigilantes and thinking about Man and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about Dexter, and he's just fucking going crazy on this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan's loving He like, oh yeah, what the is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's just everybody's like, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>But then Vanessa floats in back from Albany to surprise

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<v Speaker 4>old Kingpins wearing a why are you killing guy? Wearing

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<v Speaker 4>a little white you know, with her little white bag,

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<v Speaker 4>looking like the Angel. The governor called in to calm

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<v Speaker 4>down her man, and Fisk's like, I told you not to. Confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>So he gets the news mid match from Powell, like

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<v Speaker 1>whispering through the through the ropes, like don't worry, like

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<v Speaker 1>Christoph is dead. Meanwhile, the Kingpin has killed the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the ring, whoever that guy is. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, like they when they did the weights

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<v Speaker 1>they they put they put the Kingpin at what did

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<v Speaker 1>they put him at? Like three something fifty three three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five? No fucking way, this guy is minimum three

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five to ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>He's push him four for sure, Like I see those

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<v Speaker 4>he's just their king yes, body stature.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's just how it is. Let's not lie. I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, Aaron will get into this war, I'm sure, but

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<v Speaker 4>like just boxing wise, also like those numbers don't make sense,

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's no way you're getting in that fight.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's crazy. This man was always gonna die.

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<v Speaker 4>But unfortunately for king And that is not the last

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<v Speaker 4>thing that happens that night.

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<v Speaker 2>So Vanessa is here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Fisk is saying you shouldn't have come, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course Deck strikes here. He is comes in with the knives.

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<v Speaker 1>He's dropping Task Force guys as they try to save Fisk,

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<v Speaker 1>He's dropping them, dropping them drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Fisk is like to the task Force, get her out

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<v Speaker 2>of here.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, let me just ye, I pulled my

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<v Speaker 1>I got my little gun.

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<v Speaker 3>In gun.

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<v Speaker 2>He pulls her little silver gun out and shoots Decks

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<v Speaker 2>does hit him as Kingpin blocks his throat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's throw throwing one of the little crystal Fisk keepsakes

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<v Speaker 1>at Fisk, and Fisk, with incredible reflexes, takes his championship belt,

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<v Speaker 1>which he had won for killing guy in the ring,

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<v Speaker 1>switch to.

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<v Speaker 2>Block the crystal thing good and it smashes. He does it.

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<v Speaker 1>It blocks it and smashes and every but he is safe.

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<v Speaker 1>But before Fisk can kill Dex with his hands, d

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<v Speaker 1>d comes in, Daredavil Matt Murdoch and whist Decks away

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<v Speaker 1>like on like they goes. They go swinging out and

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk is like, what just happened?

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<v Speaker 2>He looks up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, thank god, I saved my own life

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<v Speaker 1>by smashing the crystal Fisk Memorial boxing match.

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<v Speaker 2>Keepsake Vanessa? You kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>And he looks at Vanessa, and Vanessa's standing there with

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<v Speaker 1>a side of with a piece of shard of the

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<v Speaker 1>memorial merch in her temple, crazy and it's bleeding from

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<v Speaker 1>the temple and she's got this far away look in

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<v Speaker 1>her face, on her in her face, like Fisk, did

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<v Speaker 1>we do it?

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<v Speaker 2>And then she falls? Oh crazy episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's go to a break and then we will

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<v Speaker 1>come back and we will bring Aaron in and we

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<v Speaker 1>will discuss this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, craziness.

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<v Speaker 6>Ed.

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<v Speaker 1>We're rack welcome Aaron to producer, Aaron to the program.

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<v Speaker 1>What an episode of The Daredevil corny television program. Absolutely nuts,

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<v Speaker 1>nuts nuts, stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts well.

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<v Speaker 6>Weighing in at one hundred and sixty pounds, I'm here

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<v Speaker 6>to give my thoughts on the scrapping in the kitchen fight.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't love Chekhov's glass Fisk sculpture being

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<v Speaker 6>a part of the match, but I understand that it

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<v Speaker 6>is a necessary moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he killed Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 2>Fisk is the one who did well. We don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if she's dead, but like he's.

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<v Speaker 4>The one who bleeding from her head, this is bleeding

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<v Speaker 4>from my head.

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<v Speaker 3>Gave us a troll bactic braided Jerif for shure.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you've talked about how this show adheres so

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<v Speaker 6>closely to the comics and has such a comics vibe

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<v Speaker 6>to it. I felt like this fight was the epitome

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<v Speaker 6>of that like just using the championship belt to smack

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<v Speaker 6>the thing out of the air, Daredevils swinging in at

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<v Speaker 6>the last moment and like them careening through the glass window.

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<v Speaker 6>All of this folks so comic, bookie.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 6>And what a really you know, TV shows I think

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<v Speaker 6>have these great moments where they bring a bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>characters together. What an incredible way to bring everyone together.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, the mayor is beating someone to death at

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<v Speaker 6>a fundraise.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill the guy. That's the part that will not shot

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<v Speaker 2>it like rip to.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayors opponent and will never be talked about, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>news cycle is going to be Bullseye attacks, scraping in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen fight with Mayor Vaneska Fisk dead question mark

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<v Speaker 1>and we're never going.

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<v Speaker 2>To talk about this poor again or any of the

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<v Speaker 2>task Force guys that were killed.

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<v Speaker 4>Deer. But I was so the craziest thing to me

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<v Speaker 4>is like why is he fighting a man like a

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<v Speaker 4>hundred pounds out of his weight class?

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<v Speaker 2>Like so this was a you shouldn't have more than

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred. I would say more than a hundred.

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<v Speaker 6>What I can't tell you how much money it would

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<v Speaker 6>take for me to engage in that fight, you would

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<v Speaker 6>have to like serious, I would need generational wealth for

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<v Speaker 6>like four segments of my generation down to.

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<v Speaker 1>The contract would have to be and you pay out

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<v Speaker 1>to my family.

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<v Speaker 2>Gis whatever I die, Yeah, when I die, When I.

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<v Speaker 1>Die, because it looks like like this like a hard

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<v Speaker 1>obviously hard to judge real life to this show. But

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<v Speaker 1>he when I think of what he would be like

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<v Speaker 1>in like to stand next to I think like Boston

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<v Speaker 1>Celtic Shaquille O'Neal, Like, yeah, exactly is what I think,

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix Sun Shaquillo O'Neil.

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<v Speaker 2>You go like.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like an upside He's like a giant upside down

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<v Speaker 4>de rito, And they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I want to say, actually, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>The costuming in this season has done such an incredible

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<v Speaker 4>job at making him seem way bigger than he is.

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 4>Really leaning into that silo app because it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I did a little bit of research on boxing weight

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<v Speaker 6>classes just to get a sense. So they do announce

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 6>Fiscus three twenty five, they say that's.

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<v Speaker 2>His way in no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, who knows how much he cut that day, but guys,

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been pushing two hundred pounds for a long time.

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>That bad is not three twenty five.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, he's amateur boxing range like heavyweight boxing tops

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.360
<v Speaker 6>out at two hundred pounds. Now you can you can

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 6>go above that obviously, but you have like that is

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.680
<v Speaker 6>where the cutoff begins. Amateur boxing weight classes top out

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 6>it two twenty five. So Fisk is still one hundred

0:24:54.400 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 6>pounds on paper, heavier than amateur. The heaviest in amateur typical,

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 6>like heavyweight boxers might aim to be like two forty

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 6>to two sixty. Let's give matter horn like the benefit

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 6>of the doubts. Say he's too sixty, he's still like

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 6>sixty pounds under.

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Still a whole child under face. Okay, wait, so I

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 4>gotta ask you guys a question. Then, do you think

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.959
<v Speaker 4>was the boxing match? Did it technically take place in

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 4>red hook? So none of these rules mad.

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like a free port. So even like.

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Boxing, whoa, it's if it's well, it's clearly yeah, it's

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen, I will say, per Marvel, per Marvel Comics.

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>In the comics, Wilson Fisk is six foot seven and

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty pounds with.

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Two percent body. That's all muscle fat. That's all. That's

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>that what looks like fat is all muscled.

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna stay healthy for Vanessa.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 8>Okay, he's got He's gonna be doing his pushups, keeping

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 8>that core strength going two body fat corumba No four

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 8>fifty please you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Like four hundred, four hundred and thirty five pounds of

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.959
<v Speaker 1>muscle and then if you're a muscle, the rest two

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 1>percents just like his organs.

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Yea, his bones.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah I did. I did look up online. I was like,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 6>what is the best way to beat a three hundred

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 6>and twenty five pound boxer? And the number one AI

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 6>recommendation was escape. Yeah, it's a I was like, runaway,

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 6>don't get a fight, don't get into a street fight

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 6>with a three hundred twenty five pound boxer.

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 2>So that would be my first strategy.

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean definitely. I think they would probably go

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 3>for like a.

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 4>George Saint Pierre style, like somebody who just like lays

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 4>on top of another boxer jiu jitsu fighter. You know,

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 4>that's probably a mixed martial arist is your bet, but

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 4>running away is your smartest.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>But no question.

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's what here's the various we we talked about it,

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, time and again about how comic book this

0:26:55.680 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>is and when you really like, what's what that means

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to me is like there's a ridiculousness that is.

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Fun in and of itself. The idea to like involve

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Jobby why right?

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Like that itself is like why are we in Mother Angela?

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Go deliver the SD card?

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Why do you need this guy? Like why do we

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>need him?

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And then the fact that like, Okay, so Matt Dex

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 1>escapes from Matt by knocking a delivery guy off his.

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Moped with a can, okay, and in the save that.

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Afternoon into the into the New York afternoon, right, and

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>so Matt's like where will Deck strike next? Clearly the

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>boxing match, So the idea that Matt like what was

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Matt doing.

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>During the box Like how come he was there so late?

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Stop him?

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Like just like where what was he doing? Where he

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>gets there and the Deck's attacks.

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you what if it wasn't the comic,

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 4>you would do like, yeah, that would be like a

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 4>little ten page backup story about how like he's trying

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 4>to get a cab and he can't get a cab and.

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Then he's trying to.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 4>He's and he's listening on the radio like oh ship,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 4>like the boxing ratches.

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 2>And the rain.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the rain is coming down and it's fucking up

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>his radar vision and he can't like do all this stuff.

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 3>And then he gets.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 6>If Jack hadn't bankrolled their entire operation, I would have

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 6>said he probably went in. He laid some money down

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 6>on the fight, so he was collecting again before I

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 6>came in. He was like, I gotta get this payout

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 6>and now I'll go change real quick.

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 3>That's scandalous. Scandalous.

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think another thing that I love is You're

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 4>so right, Jason. It is the ridiculousness. And I think

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 4>that's what's appealing so much. Is this is that kind

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 4>of perfect balance between you know, I guess in some

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 4>other shows it would almost be camp, but they don't

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.959
<v Speaker 4>push it that far, so they balance it of a

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 4>comic booky kind of ridiculous nature of these actions, of

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 4>the of a little girl being involved, of a teenage

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 4>boy being involved, but those feel comic book because those

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 4>are the characters they would put in as in characters

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>for the audience in a comic book, right.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I kind of love.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 4>That they're keeping that up while not trying to do

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 4>some whole Reekuel not trying to do some whole reboot. Instead,

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 4>it's like, well, how do we add these little things

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>that make it familiar to the people who are picking

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 4>up the comic books or who used to pick them up.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>And I think you're right.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 4>The word ridiculous is so perfect for me because this

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 4>episode is like legitimately a fantastic episode of television. It's

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 4>so well made, it's so good.

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely up there.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I know we have some still some born again cynics

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 4>or it hasn't hit for them yet in the Discord,

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 4>but I believe that this is gonna be the episode

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 4>that turns the tables.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 3>It feels like Netflix, but with more flair.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 4>With more color, with more fun like Decks being able

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 4>to be funny with his powers, the tin can off

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 4>the moped.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I rewound that like fifty times.

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>It was so fucking funny.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Man Like it's Charlie Chaplin, Yes, yes, silly. That's another

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 4>thing that kind of slapstick.

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Nature, the Looney Tunes nature of it.

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 4>We definitely get that in Fisk's fight, like the notion

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 4>that he can kind of smash this memorabilia trophy crystal

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking you know, boxing bakeoff tray that they gave him

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 4>or whatever a smash it just out of the way

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 4>with that fucking belt is just so good. Like when

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 4>it happens and it explodes, you get that hero moment.

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 4>You feel like, oh my god, he saved himself, like

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 4>you tried to take down Fisk and you can't. And

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 4>then that kind of slow pullback reveal. We were talking

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 4>about how we didn't really know what they were gonna

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 4>do with Vanessa, and that's kind of how it felt.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't see this coming, Like I really felt

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 4>like after such a dex heavy episode, this would be

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>about his showdown with Kingpin. And I think that I

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>love the fact that we've ended up in a place

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 4>where technically, if something happens to Vanessa nowt it's Wilson's fault.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna have to live with that, Like his choice

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 4>to defend himself ended up being the thing that injured her.

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Just get just get killed with the crystal memorial Wilson

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Fisk merch and but I have to say, like the reflex,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked at the reflexes.

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Incredible four hundred pounds sent Buddy fat.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>That's how you know, for fifty for fifty.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>He's so quick. I wonder if he is.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he's four fifty in the show and

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he just lied about his weight was yes, twenty five.

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 6>You can't think of any politicians that would lie about

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 6>their weight, guys, I mean.

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>You would do that. I mean. Also, the thing is

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>about Wilson Fisk and I do.

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Love this as well, about the way they shoot Vincent Donofrio.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, like a solid seventy pounds of that is

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 4>just that man's fat head, that fat bowed hell like

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 4>that show, that's seventy pounds on that shoulders.

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say, shouts to Vince, to mister Donofrio.

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Mister Donofrio is sixty six years old. This is a

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>physical fucking role, dude, he's got He will probably have

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>another fight scene, right, at least one more fight scene, is.

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>They've had.

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>He's had what two fight scenes already in the show,

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>including him killing the boxer.

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I know I was gonna say, I'm like, where's the

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 3>boxing coach? I'm guess he did it to make it

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 3>back from the mirror smash.

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, or is he in a catch?

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 6>I read an interview they did with Danafrio where he

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 6>was saying a lot of times since Hawkeye, he's had

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 6>the fat suit, but he's also had his arms covered.

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 6>So his frame, you believe it because he's got the

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 6>fat suit. So for this season, he had to do

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 6>extra workouts to build up his shoulders and arms because

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 6>he's he's got a tank on here, so you have

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 6>to believe that his arms saw finally fit. So if

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 6>you're looking at it and it does look a little off,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 6>it's because usually he does have a little arm padding.

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>But for this he hit the gym.

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it looked off. I thought that man

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>who looking good, Well, he's doing an incredible job. Okay,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>shall we talk about who we think is going to

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>live and die? Because I think we've got some changes here.

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 6>First off, can I just say I think the first mate,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 6>I think he's gonna make it through the show.

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Right Wait, no, never mind, never mind, Yeah, that's another

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, listen.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 6>Christoph, Chris, Matt, what are you doing?

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>You and Matt together? It's time like step into.

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>The modern day of what's going on in New York

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking doing just like not get with it? What what

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>do you think has been happening out here, Like, look

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>at what's going on all around you. You're gonna put

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>this guy in the hands of the US Marshals, would

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you call them on on your phone? Like surely your

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>phone isn't tapped, right, Like, give me a fucking break, McDuffie,

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Like what are you doing?

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>What is Cherry and the good cops for? Where the

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>fuck is Cherry?

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Good point. Where's the tay? Where are the fuck is Cherry?

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You have Cherry handle this also as well?

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 4>How about the fact that, like Daredevil is the only

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 4>person who has managed to evade the law, So why

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 4>not put this criminal, I mean, this wanted man who

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 4>is not a criminal on the run with dead Devil,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Like you don't give him to the fucking US Marshals

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 4>and then your surprise is getting taken out and Matt

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of blood on their hands with this

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 4>sexual frustration chemistry.

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Just have sex run the law institute properly.

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Matt can be with you and he's Matt, and he

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 4>can be with Karen when he's dead Devil.

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>You'll be fine. But yes, I'm I think what do

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 2>you think?

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I think McDuffie needs her own She needs her own

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>like super villain, super legal super villain who can help

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>her realize, like what's going on in the world right now?

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>And stop? Oh I like that.

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 4>I like would you would you would think after the

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 4>DA that she would maybe realize the US Marshals wasn't

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 4>like the safe.

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 6>The problem is all of her like opponents and rivals

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 6>are her old friends, like Heather, It's all people she's

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 6>like close with. The only people she's upset with are

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 6>them and mat Like. She doesn't have real enemies right now,

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 6>she just has spurned partners.

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 3>You're right, You're right. She needs a true, true nemesis.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if Heather ends up becoming Muse like Muse

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<v Speaker 4>too or Lady Muse or Miss.

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<v Speaker 3>Muse or whatever cools Miss Muse.

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<v Speaker 2>Muse x.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, whatever version she if she does eventually become

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<v Speaker 4>that she could that could.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a good foil for McDuffie, do we think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my thing with the I think that the Muse

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<v Speaker 1>mask has like some sort of evil force.

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<v Speaker 2>You think it's possessing her, right, yeah, I think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that she's obviously on her own mental health

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<v Speaker 1>journey as well. But I think there's why she put

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about how Jack feels possessed, because really that

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>was about Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I think them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the mask is possessing her and she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have because I'm like, so, what is she gonna do?

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Just like walk up and strangle people with her right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now and then it's gonna be She's what worlds struggle is, right, Grip. No,

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna She's gonna do the true Muse thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because the Muse costume has an evil spirit

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<v Speaker 1>in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that, Jason. That's insane and I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So, which again, very comic book, very colic.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely we've been talking about an evilhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally just saw it and miss I mean iron Heart.

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<v Speaker 3>There's lots of there's lots of reasoning.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Jason, last week, your three death pools were Vanessa

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<v Speaker 4>looking good, BBI or Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are you thinking now?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna I think Vanessa obviously let's cross

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<v Speaker 1>her off. So she did another one, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna add the governor to my list.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the Governor is playing a dangerous game.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Either pull the port or don't pull the port, but

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>don't let fisk.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, over hanging over his head. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna put the Governor on my list to

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<v Speaker 1>take Vanessa's place. R at Vanessa, and you know, I

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>don't it seemed pretty bad. Maybe she's not dead yet,

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but she was. It seemed like that crystal shard of

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Fat Wilson's memorial boxing match merch did penetrate. And then

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, and then I'm gonna stay with So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go Governor BB Dan, And I do think

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>it's one of I'm gonna go one of BB or Dan.

0:37:58.480 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting BB back.

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<v Speaker 3>At the top because I feel like the Harvey bb

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Ann Harvey.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I think I think.

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<v Speaker 4>They might might have to both go, oh this is yeah,

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 4>rip Vanessa O.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 3>We love her. They didn't know what to do with

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<v Speaker 3>her this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if Dex could go, you know what, let's

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm gonna put decks on mine because I

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 4>don't want to put Dan on there as well as

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 4>BB again, So I.

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Think it's true. I don't.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 4>I did think at some point we might see Karen

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 4>kill Dex, but I don't think that's where they're going

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 4>because I think they want the Matt Karen thing to

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 4>be good though. They could end the season with her

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 4>killing Decks and then that could be kind of a

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 4>lead into the Punisha. But yeah, I think you're right, Jason.

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I think Dex is a good one. Aaron, who are

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 4>your final three?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I had Vanessa on last I think we

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<v Speaker 6>all had Vanessa.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we all had Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 6>So I also had Dan and I had Governor McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm keeping McCaffrey on there. I think she Yeah, I'm

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 6>keeping m McCaffrey is gonna go. I think that like

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 6>they're trying to build her as his rival to Fisk,

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 6>but it seems like he doesn't even think about her.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 6>So I'm wondering, like does Vanessa. Well, at first I

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 6>thought maybe the Nessa would kill her, but now maybe

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 6>Heather or Buck gets her. So I think McCaffrey's number one.

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<v Speaker 6>I think BB like I think they're building to Bay.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 6>I think I think they're building Daniel up to almost

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 6>be a tragic figure now where he's gonna have to

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 6>make a choice between Fisk or Bib, and he's gonna

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 6>pick Fisk. And I think BB is done for.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.479
<v Speaker 1>I like I like the I like the Anakin turn

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to the dark side, Dan becoming like the new Fisk

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>when whatever happens to which.

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 4>Has been like like seating as well.

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 6>And my third one is Karen. You guys kind of

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 6>you mentioned it in the recap.

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<v Speaker 2>Karen and Matt.

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Said, yeah, but she's got to choose between Frank and

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>she's got to choose between Frank and Matt.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that I think a mad Karen Love triangle

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>is too good.

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 4>I agree, it's it's so juicy. Also, guys, I do

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 4>have to say something as well. Ian pointed something out

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 4>really good, so I just want to give him a

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 4>quick shout out because he just pointed out that if

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Vanessa hadn't shot Decks, Decks wouldn't have missed with the

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 4>crystal anyway, So like it.

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Was a Vanessa Fisk mix. They did it to themselves.

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if Vanessa makes it good for.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Her, RP to her.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 4>If not, and oh my god, like sorry to New

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 4>York if she's really dead, because Wilson Fisk is gonna

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 4>be fucking screwing.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be screwing, he's gonna he's gonna lose his

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna lose his nut.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I I just want to say again how wonderful it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget about the whole about how the governor

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>is involved because of this insane season one plot line

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of the ancient Deeds.

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Red Hook that was like a pirate fucking math from the.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Pre Civil War era, right that is apparently the only

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>copy and legally verified document pertaining to the Red Hook property,

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and nobody else had ever thought or considered or investigated

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the the legal status of the red Hook port. And

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>when this like crusty fucking scroll show up like that,

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>now we understand.

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh now I understand.

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>What the status of the poor one. It's so good.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I love that that is the case.

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 4>I love it so much, and I love that they

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 4>mix it in with this like real kind of grimy

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 4>brutality and violence like there ever since. And I know

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 4>this is such a funny poll because I know people

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 4>did not love this show. But if you haven't watched

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 4>the last episode of like when Echo shows up, oh

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 4>so this would actually be Hawkeye, which was a great show.

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 4>But the finale of Hawkeye spoiler alert, when Echo shows

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 4>up and shoots Kingpin in the head, and before that.

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 3>We've seen how crazy powerful he is.

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the coolest representations of Oh, this is

0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 4>how the MCU is gonna differentiate itself is by holding

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 4>the comic book accuracy and the crazy costumes and the

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 4>Kingpin in a Hawaiian suit kind of vibe with this brutality.

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 4>And I think that the red hook scroll and this

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 4>kind of scraping in the kitchen is such a great

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 4>example of how they've managed to balance both and why

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 4>I do think that this is actually a really great

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 4>season of TV.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, we will continue to talk about Born

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<v Speaker 1>Again season two on X ray Vision. Also coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>Mall Shadow Lord. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Hie.

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<v Speaker 2>X ray Vision is hosted.

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<v Speaker 1>By Jason SEPs Young and Rosie Knight and is a

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<v Speaker 1>production of iHeart Podcast.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 2>Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.

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<v Speaker 4>Our producers are Common, Laurent Dian, Jhonathan and Fay Wag.

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<v Speaker 6>A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 6>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 4>Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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<v Speaker 4>Heidi or Di called moderate though.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Mike, as is his Nephi Mary, I just want

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>to talk about the scraping in the kitchen bow tod I,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.799
<v Speaker 1>which I just want to say. I logged it into

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>my Cauchi account and I looked and somebody named uh

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Dan hart beebe Forever placed five hundred dollars on the kingpin,

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>not just to win, but to murder his rival. And

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, anybody, and by the way,

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:40.280
<v Speaker 1>not a crazy bet. Anybody who was thinking anything else,

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>what have you been looking at the kingpin?

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Come on?

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 1>How big this guy? How many chairs has he gone

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>through since he's been maya? What is he sitting on?

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Adamantium chairs? This is this guy? Forget about it. There

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>is no way that whoever he was fighting, and uh

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, my, my, my deepest condolences to the Greek

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>spot that was formerly the opponent of Wilson Fisk in

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 1>the ring. But there was no way that guy took

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>had a chance. He did not have a chance.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Mike.

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It was a travesty. This is what boxing has come to.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>This used to be a great sport, Mike. It used

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:28.479
<v Speaker 1>to be boxing, horse racing and and and whatever. Else

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>in this country, and now boxing has fallen. This is

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>what this is what passes for the sport.

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Of kings in this country. Mike, I'll take my answer

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 2>off the other. Thank you.