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Speaker 3: From Futuro Media and pr X, it's Latino usay, I'm

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Speaker 3: Maria no posa today. Puerto Rican singer songwriter Ile on

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Speaker 3: the evolution of her music as a form of protest.

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Speaker 3: For Puerto Rican singer songwriter Ileana Cabra, better known by

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Speaker 3: her stage name Ile, music has always been a way

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Speaker 2: I was a little one in the house where I

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Speaker 3: Ille remembers listening to salsa and boleros with her family,

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Speaker 2: My dad always likes to try to find the background

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Speaker 2: of songs that he likes so I remember, for example,

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Speaker 2: there's a song from Ruin Bladles that is called Tiburon,

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Speaker 2: and he wrote it in Puerto Rico, and it is

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Speaker 3: In Tiburon, Ruben Blades sings about a ruthless shark, symbolizing

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Speaker 3: songs like this cemented the relationship between the musical and

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Speaker 2: Even though you enjoy it and you danced to it,

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Speaker 3: When Ile was a teenager, she began to sing with

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Speaker 3: her older brothers Rene Perez and Eduardo Cavra, also known

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Speaker 3: the stage name PG thirteen. Ile performed with Gaietrese through

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Speaker 4: La gobardiadu Frere.

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Speaker 3: Ile often sings about power Baya. Her second album, al Madura,

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Speaker 1: And.

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Speaker 3: The album draws from a vast range of Caribbean musicality

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Speaker 5: Home now Elimpiamano.

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Speaker 3: And in her twenty twenty two album Nakarile, the singer

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Speaker 3: The album brings together the personal and the political, getting

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Speaker 3: introspective about how she moves through patriarchy and colonialism without

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Speaker 3: losing Pope recently released her first new song since Nakarile.

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Speaker 3: It's a personal one about the end of a relationship.

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Speaker 3: And Ele has confirmed that she's working on a new album.

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Speaker 3: twenty three. In this episode, I reflects on her artistic journey.

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Speaker 1: My name is Ile. I am from Puerto Rico and

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Speaker 1: I am a singer.

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Speaker 2: Where I grew up, there was a lot of music

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Speaker 1: Powerful voice and I've always sang since I was little,

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Speaker 2: I was coming from a big transition in my life.

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Speaker 1: Struggle so much.

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Speaker 1: In this world. But a kilos.

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Speaker 4: Do well.

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Speaker 2: In Almadura, I wanted to play with my roots as

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Speaker 2: When I was creating that album, I was very angry

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Speaker 2: And it was like a big shock for us as

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Speaker 2: And that's what we did in Hurakan Marian That's what

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Speaker 2: And for example, Contrato for me is the song that

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Speaker 6: Is the way.

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Speaker 1: We've been through so much.

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Speaker 2: It takes away your energy and you feel like yeah,

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Speaker 2: On the courage that I feel that we all have

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Speaker 2: Especially after Maria, I feel that many people felt the

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Speaker 2: Nadal sakamo that it says like no one gets us

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Speaker 2: It's a very important phrase for me because nowadays we

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Speaker 5: The dui YadA yea, the yucky, the duga ya yeah, yucky.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, the year that we all thought was going

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Speaker 1: Suddenly everything changed drastically in the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Like I was with myself a lot, and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: I think that this album NA focused on on me

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Speaker 5: And suh better or not important.

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Speaker 7: Te Yoda.

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Speaker 4: And contra.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you feel so so so angry

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Speaker 2: And I feel that I was like in this album,

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Speaker 1: It's part of life, you know.

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Speaker 2: The song that for me maybe represents the whole album

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Speaker 4: A consent, comment them and get them and go get

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Speaker 1: The whole collaboration process was very.

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Speaker 2: I'm used to working on my own. It was incredible

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Speaker 1: An incredible experience to have. Working with ev was incredible.

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Speaker 2: She was like my female reference when I thought about

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Speaker 1: For me, it is great. And also this song that

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Speaker 2: Any Natarilla comes from a Puerto Rican phrase that we

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we expect change to happen quickly, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm part of that, you know, sometimes I feel that way.

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