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Speaker 2: some basketball. So I've talked about this concept a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a really difficult dynamic that the media and the

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Speaker 2: Sports are nasty, competitive, physical, violent. It's about a pursuit

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very important part of this profession

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Speaker 2: at the highest level. These are the very best people

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Speaker 2: I came on the next day and I apologize. That's

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's perfect. There are disagreements, right. One

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Speaker 2: reliable playoff performer. I disagree whatever it is. Like a

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Speaker 2: I think criticism is good. It's part of how we

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Speaker 2: it's just the reality of sports. Sports is nasty, Sports

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Speaker 2: That's not what it is. It's mean, guys talk shit,

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Speaker 2: important that criticism is based in evidence and not just

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Speaker 2: decline in his quickness, then I would be concerned.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Like it's a combination of like your evolution of at

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Speaker 2: as a basketball player and how strong your physical foundation is.

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Speaker 2: With the way Jason Tatum is playing the season on

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Speaker 2: top of the ridiculously stacked roster the Celtics have. I'm

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Speaker 2: curious what teams, if any, you think match up well

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Speaker 2: against Boston. It seems they have one of the most

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Speaker 2: complete starting fives we have ever seen. Do you see

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Speaker 2: any teams that have obvious advantages over them? The two

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Speaker 2: teams that i'd be are like, all these teams have

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Speaker 2: potential issues they can present. I think the Caves would

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Speaker 2: be ridiculous to write them off completely. I just think

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Speaker 2: they have some entry points that can cause them problems.

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Speaker 2: So the Calves are a big one. I think that

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Speaker 2: they'd have to keep an eye out out of the West.

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Speaker 2: It's the Lakers and OKC that I'd be worried about.

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Speaker 2: I think they match up really well with Denver because

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Speaker 2: of their ability to consistently get them in rotation. The

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Speaker 2: Lakers and the thunder both have the ability to pretty

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Speaker 2: routinely play them into their worst tendencies, which is like

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Speaker 2: ISO's difficult over the top shot making because of those

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Speaker 2: teams and the way they stunt and sag and and

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Speaker 2: find ways to kind of make them feel like they're

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Speaker 2: playing in a crowd even when they're playing one on one,

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Speaker 2: then the Lakers. They have the ability to match up

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Speaker 2: attack Boston and Oka See has a speed advantage. I

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Speaker 2: think that manifest for OKAC, especially on the defensive end.

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Speaker 2: They can stay up underneath Boston and keep them in

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Speaker 2: front and turn them into contested jump shooters. Those are

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Speaker 2: the three teams that I'd be particularly worried about, but

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Speaker 2: I would pick Boston against all three of them. Two more,

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Speaker 2: what team would be the best fit for KD next year?

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Speaker 2: Since we know he's not going to be in a

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Speaker 2: Sun's jersey next year, where should he go? I think

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Speaker 2: Houston would be his best move. But what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Houston and Oklahoma City are the two teams that scare

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Speaker 2: me for that type of trade with Kevin Durant. Houston

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Speaker 2: because they can anchor him with just a rock solid

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Speaker 2: defense and a ton of physicality, a good coach, just

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Speaker 2: like it's a physical, ass kicking team that KD can

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Speaker 2: lift over the top. We talked about that a little

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Speaker 2: bit when we talked in our Sun segment yesterday. Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 2: if they were like, screw it, let's go get KD.

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Speaker 2: I think they would be an immediate, like massive championship

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Speaker 2: favorite like head and shoulders over the field. He fits

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Speaker 2: a position group that they're a little thin at at

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Speaker 2: the power forward. You can imagine him next to Chet

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Speaker 2: and Shae. It's just a ridiculously strong foundation. They can

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Speaker 2: throw the Suns a million draft picks to figure it

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Speaker 2: out for a team that probably would like to pivot anyway.

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Speaker 1: Okay sees the team.

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Speaker 2: Everyone should be crossing their fingers and begging doesn't go

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Speaker 2: after Kevin Durant this summer. Last question really fun one. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Jason love the pod. You mentioned how jaws speed and

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Speaker 2: downhill force represents an unsolvable issue for defenses at the

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Speaker 2: highest levels. I was wondering if you go through the

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Speaker 2: NBA and list the players that also have unsolvable abilities

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Speaker 2: and what that skill is. I suspect that list isn't

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Speaker 2: as long as many others think. Thanks and keep it going,

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Speaker 2: best basketball part of the net. Thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the kind words.

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Speaker 1: All of you guys.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about Darius Carland earlier, John Morant, as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, I decided to just list a couple others

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Speaker 2: for you guys. This is just kind of rough thrown together,

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Speaker 2: but let me know what you guys think. So I

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Speaker 2: put Shae his first step, his pull up shooting that

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Speaker 2: kind of just makes him very, very difficult to keep

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Speaker 2: in front or to keep from getting to his spots.

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Speaker 2: Jannis overwhelming size and athleticism, Jokic size, shot making and passing,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards first step, pull up shooting and strength. Jason

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Speaker 2: Tatum doesn't really have an A plus trait necessarily, but

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Speaker 2: I do think his overall skill set is so good

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Speaker 2: that it's that type of imposing for teams like you

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Speaker 2: just can fill so many different holes in any specific matchup.

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Speaker 2: Tyre Smaxi's speed, I think is a real game changing talent,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's size and shooting, Luka Doncic size, shot making

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Speaker 2: and playmaking, Anthony Davis defensive versatility. Kate Cunningham eventually should

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Speaker 2: be able to do a rough facsimile of what Luka

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Speaker 2: Doncic does. Lebron James rough facsimile of what Luka Dancic does,

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Speaker 2: And I think Lebron's been one of the best two

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Speaker 2: or three defenders in the league over the last you know,

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Speaker 2: thirty games or so. Zion Williamson is dribble penetration in

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Speaker 2: rim finishing, Victor Weimin Yama's length, I defense, Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: the threat of his shooting, Joel Embiid's size and scoring,

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Speaker 2: his footwork, his ability to move his body. Palo I

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Speaker 2: think eventually could bring a combination of size, strength and

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Speaker 2: scoring that is a potential there for So what does

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Speaker 2: I give you? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.

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Speaker 2: So that's eighteen guys that bring that type of issue.

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Speaker 2: I'm setting a pretty low bar, Like there's obviously like

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Speaker 2: four or five of those dudes that are at another

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Speaker 2: level above everyone else. But those are the guys that

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Speaker 2: I think bring a specific talent that is an A

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Speaker 2: plus talent that could be a foundational trait for an

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Speaker 2: elite basketball team.

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Speaker 1: Very good question. That was a fun one.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys. That's all I have for today is

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Speaker 2: always to sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting me and

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Speaker 2: supporting the show. The plan as of right now is

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday morning, while I'm in Breck, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 2: a video breaking down some of the games from Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: and then we're going live on Thursday night after the

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Speaker 2: TNT game that night, so couple shows while we're there,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll take Friday off and then we'll go

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Speaker 2: live on Saturday night as Celtics Lakers on ABC.

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Speaker 1: That should be a fun one.

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Speaker 2: Again, as always, I appreciate you guys for supporting me

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Speaker 2: and supporting the show.

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Speaker 1: Now I'll see you on Wednesday the volume What's Up guys?

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Speaker 2: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting

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Speaker 2: OOPS tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us

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Speaker 2: if you guys would take a second and leave a

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Speaker 2: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 2: do that, I'd really appreciate it.