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426
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Speaker 1: but once number four became just one of the better

427
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: players at his position in the league. You're like the

428
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: Bills offense is dominant and they can play on any

429
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: given game, they can light you up like a Christmas tree,

430
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and a big catalyst for them was finding that running back.

431
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: I would say the same thing for the Buccaneers, Like

432
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is a Hall of Famer. You know, godwins

433
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: banged up right now, But when they have those two guys,

434
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: that's one of the best one to two combinations. They

435
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: add a Mecca Aboku from Ohio State who is just

436
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: a stud right now. He had a drop tonight. But

437
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: that guy could play for my team any day of

438
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: the week, and he's going to have a long career

439
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: in this league catching eighty to ninety balls, I promise

440
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: you that. So their wide receiver rooms never in question.

441
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago, it was like they're

442
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: the worst running team and like the history of the league,

443
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: I think that was Tom Brady's last season. Well, this

444
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: dude from Moregan, Bucky Irving, It's like that guy is

445
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: a badass. And White as well, who had the game

446
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: winning touchdown. Their physicality, they can run inside, they speed

447
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: to get on the outside, the tackles. Both of them,

448
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: especially Irving, can catch the ball. They're great in space.

449
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: To me, their offense is just so complete. And Baker

450
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: he has like this Farvan quality to him, where ITA's

451
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: just now. Farv was more talented, bigger arm. Obviously, I

452
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: mean far As one of the great players of all time.

453
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: But there's just something magical about watching this version of

454
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: Baker on Tampa. He's clearly over the last couple of years,

455
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: slimmed down, he's quicker, he just makes some big time

456
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: throws when he has to. He's a really really fun

457
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: player to watch. And that team's really good. I mean

458
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: to go on the road and they were winning that

459
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: game pretty like. I felt they were in complete control.

460
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for their special teams unit. They got

461
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans right back in the game. But they're

462
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: good on defense. You know, Todd Bowle is a really

463
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: aggressive defensive coordinator. They draft as well, if not better

464
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: than any team in the league. I mean, the majority

465
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: of their star players are all drafted guys. Honestly, like

466
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: Baker's the outlier of and think about that. I mean

467
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: Baker to be able to go from Tom to Baker

468
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: incredible transition to two free agent guys. Right, It's not

469
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: like they had in house. It's not like they had

470
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Speaker 1: some guy coming up the pike that was a third

471
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Speaker 1: rounder that learned behind Brady. It was like they signed

472
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Brady one kicked ass, moved off, Brady signed Baker, winning

473
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: and kicking ass. And I listened. Obviously, a Landa probably

474
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: a little bit better this year on defense, especially after

475
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: that draft and adding Leonard Floyd, but Tampa's clearly still

476
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: the team to beat. And that was a big time win.

477
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: And what a gutsy performance. I mean, Baker's just getting crushed.

478
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times did they hit him hard?

479
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: A couple of times he goes down, I like freaked out.

480
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, it's me and then he

481
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: kind of shake it off and he was good. But

482
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: that was that final drive is why we love football.

483
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, listen, I got the Texans

484
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: in a couple you know, big time division winning parlays,

485
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: and they were my anchor. I do not feel great.

486
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: I'm not writing them off, but if I was a

487
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: betting man right now, I would like a little redode

488
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: to be able to insert the Indianapolis Colts. I think

489
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: there are two major problems because defensively is not their issue.

490
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: I know they gave up a game winning drive, but

491
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Speaker 1: they are going to be and they are one of

492
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: the more physical, faster defenses in the league, and those

493
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: two edge rushers are awesome. But offensively they got two

494
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: major problems. First and foremost, when your quarterback is a

495
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: little off and he's young, the easiest way to settle

496
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: anything down is running the football, running the ball, and

497
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: up until that Nick Chubb run, they cannot run the ball.

498
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: I would say, what's glaring is they have his defensive

499
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: coach in Demiko Ryans. Now, he's a younger guy, so

500
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like this archaic, older, you know, defensive

501
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: guy because he's like early forties. But typically defensive guys

502
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: like to run the ball. Yet you look at their

503
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: running back room and forever when the Texans now, they

504
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: never had playoff success, but they were a really good

505
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: team early on with Kubiak, and then when they transitioned

506
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: to Bill O'Brien. With Kubiak, I mean, they were one

507
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: of the best. I think they led the league in

508
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: rushing several times with Arian Foster and running that Shanahan's

509
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: zone running scheme. They were incredible. And then to Bill O'Brien,

510
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: they always had good running backs like Alfred Blue and

511
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: other guys that they could run the ball. I'm watching

512
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: this team and I go, you're depending on Nick Chubb

513
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: that like two years ago had his leg bent in

514
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: two different directions. Like that's who you're and we're all

515
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: rooting for him, but like, that's what you're depending on,

516
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: And I think part of that manifested itself into your

517
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: offensive lines. Not great at pass blocking, obviously got some injuries,

518
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: but your quarterbacks really off right like tonight, like Gino

519
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: just presses a little bit. They don't have great talent,

520
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes he can just look a little weird against

521
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: better competition, but he always kind of looks like Geno Smith.

522
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I thought c J. Stroud,

523
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a top five quarterback in the

524
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: league and you watch him tonight and there's no other

525
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: takeaway that comes away of like what's going on? And

526
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: I hate this term, but like I think it gets

527
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: thrown around a little too liberally at times. But the

528
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: regression term, like, I don't think he's getting worse, but

529
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: I think regression in the NFL is not like taking

530
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: the next step. You look at Baker, it's like from

531
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, it just feels like he

532
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: keeps getting better. You look at Herbert, he just keeps

533
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: getting better, right, Josh Allen Lamar, they just keep getting better.

534
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: And you're watching CJ. Stroud, It's like, what's going on here?

535
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: He's missing open guys, he just has It's just off.

536
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: I just wrote down, like, is CJ. Stroud a really

537
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: good player right now? And the answer is no. Is

538
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud a dependable player right now? And sometimes

539
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: it's it's intermixed with the scheme, the coordinator, the offensive line,

540
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: but there is no disputing this thing is off. And

541
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: they drafted them number two overall and after the first year,

542
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: you would have bet the house that this guy was

543
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a dominant franchise quarterback. And now we're a

544
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: year and a half later or a year and two

545
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: games later, and we got concerns. I mean, there's no

546
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: other way around it. Thank god this defense is as

547
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: good as they are, because this offense is shitty right now.

548
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: It's just not good. And to me, it starts no

549
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: running game. You can't take any of the pressure off

550
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and then he feels like he's got to

551
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: play hero ball a little bit like Gino tonight, and

552
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: it just looks bad. He's missing guys behind him, he's

553
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: overthrowing guys. You just something's just off, and I don't

554
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: know how to pinpoint it. They switched offensive coordinators, they

555
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: tweaked the scheme. I know people around Houston were bullish

556
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: on this move, but I would say as of a

557
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: couple games, they got to be concerned. And I don't

558
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: know exactly what the answer is. Like, you don't just

559
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: find sweet offensive linemen who are sitting at home or

560
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: on practice squads, so you got to try to make

561
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: this work. But when you're running back room, it's not

562
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: like Saquon Barkley ain't walking through that door, or you

563
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: can't just pick up the phone and like find some

564
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders around like this kind of is what it is.

565
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's really going to improve, which

566
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: could cost him because Indy now's already got a two

567
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: game lead and they just look good, right, I mean

568
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: that's if you just put like Jonathan Taylor on the

569
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Texans got news for you, it would help a lot. Now,

570
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: maybe Casario coming from New England, they don't value that

571
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: position as much because for a long time, especially that

572
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: second iteration of like the Gronk Edelman mccordy, you know,

573
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: teams around Tom they kind of piece mailed the running

574
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: back position from the Deon Lewis's, the Shane Verens, they

575
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: just had a lot of different body types and Lea

576
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt. But I do think just getting a bellcow

577
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: running back to go with CJ. Stroud, Like, I don't

578
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: know if these guys are ever gonna live up to

579
00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: the billing genty and and O'marion Hampton for the Chargers,

580
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: but like I like the logic, just get a guy

581
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: we can depend on and give the ball to twenty

582
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: four times a game, right. The Texans do not have that,

583
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: and it is evident when you watch them in some

584
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: of these games, like this is a problem and I

585
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: just don't know if it's going to be fixed. So

586
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: massive win for Tampa. The Texans got some issues. I mean,

587
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: they got some major issues that I don't think you

588
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: can fix overnight. Okay, a couple other things before we

589
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: get out of here. We have a quarterback situation on

590
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: our hands right now. You know, Burrows out for three

591
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: months and if they free fall, like we're just gonna

592
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: see the Jake Browning Show the rest of the year,

593
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: which I actually looked. He's five and three in his

594
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: career as a starter, and I mentioned this to Colin

595
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. He's the most improved player

596
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: from college to the pros I've ever seen. In my

597
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: entire life. I've been wrong on guys like I didn't

598
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: think Jalen Hurts would be a good NFL quarterback. But

599
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: like Gay playing at Oklahoma, he's playing at Alabama. He

600
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: could run, he did have a strong deep ball. I

601
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: just never thought he could be a guy who could

602
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: just lead you to Super Bowls. I mean, so I

603
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: was wrong on I didn't think Jake brown could make

604
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: it through a training camp a try. I thought he'd

605
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: be out of the league in a year, like he's

606
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: going to play in the league for a decade, but

607
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like you lose Joe Burrow when your team

608
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: is dependent to even win nine games last year, the

609
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: guy had to throw whatever forty five touchdowns, Like, I

610
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: just don't think this guy can match it. I think

611
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a drop off, and I'm out on

612
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals now. They probably won't be as bad as

613
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: maybe I initially thought twenty four hours ago, but I'm

614
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: out on them now. The other guys you got JJ

615
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: McCarthy hurt his ankle. I know they wrapped it during

616
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: the game. If I wanted to go a conspiracy middle

617
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: cooff here, I'd go, he hurt his ankle, slash, like,

618
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: give him a little breather. Feels like he's a little

619
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: over his head. But I also, if I wanted to

620
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: push back against my conspiracy, like, you'd want to get

621
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: this guy wrapped because you got to find out if

622
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: he could play or not. So you're going to Carson Wentz,

623
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: who I saw a stat that this is his six

624
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: years starting for six different teams, which is crazy. It

625
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: shows you how long he's been gone from the Eagles.

626
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: Does not feel like he's been gone for the Eagles

627
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: for six years. Shows you how long Jalen has been

628
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: starting now for Philly. But he's played it a lot

629
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: of you know, from the Chiefs to the Rams to

630
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: now Minnesota. He's made the rounds and is he any good?

631
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. At this point in time. The Vikis

632
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: could have a problem, you know. Dan Quinn came out

633
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: today and said that, you know, Jayden Daniels was also

634
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: rumored to be out several weeks. He claimed him day

635
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: to day, but I think this week is vary in question.

636
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, in his one win on the road, earned

637
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Speaker 1: his salary. If your backup has to start a couple games,

638
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: if you can win one of them, that is a

639
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: major win. You don't get style points, no one judges

640
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: you on individual plays or passes. Just win the game

641
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: and get out of there with your backup quarterback. That's

642
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: a different situation than the Jake Browning Joe Burrow win

643
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: the guys out for the year. But in situations where

644
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: a guy has a rolled ankle, when a guy has

645
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: a banged up knee and he's gonna miss a game,

646
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe two games, can you just win a game? Can

647
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: you keep the team competitive? The bar is really really low,

648
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: and that's where the pressure on the front office on

649
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: to sign a guy who is your backup quarterback, who's

650
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: more than just a clipboard holder, who is more than

651
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: just assistant coach in the meeting room. It's a guy

652
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: that's credible, who can take snaps and make some place

653
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: and also brings that to the table as well. So

654
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be under the microscope now in some of

655
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: these different organizations with Mariota, with Carson Wentz, because let's

656
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: face it, Minnesota Washington, these teams don't have like we're

657
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: hoping to win nine or ten games. The hope of

658
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: those two teams was like compete for the NFC Championship Game,

659
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: right to compete for our division. Oh, it's gonna be fascinating.

660
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how all these guys get hurt, but

661
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's just it's crazy. Uh. The other couple

662
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: things is the more and more I think about it,

663
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, if not now, then win.

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Speaker 1: I think one of those guys this season has to

665
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. The Bills or

666
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens have to win the AFC. If they don't,

667
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: it is a major disappointment. Clearly, the Chiefs, they're not

668
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: gonna go oh in seventeen. If I had to bet

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: right now, they'll be nine or ten wins. It's gonna

670
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: be a tougher season for them. You know, even a

671
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: guy like Worthy comes back, does his shoulder get reinjured?

672
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: What is Rashid Rice? He's not just suspended, he was

673
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: also injured last year. That it's gonna be a little

674
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: We thought the transition year was gonna be last year

675
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: and they made the Super Bowl. Maybe it's this year.

676
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: But it's like the Chargers. We'll see with Mac the Broncos,

677
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: they have a second year quarterback. Still a lot of

678
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: question marks. One of these two teams. Then listen, I

679
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: give them both credit. The Bills, it would have been easy.

680
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: You get a massive win. You're playing the Jets to

681
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: just kind of cruise control, boom, they're up twenty to nothing.

682
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: The Ravens coming off a big loss. I get it.

683
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: You're playing the Browns, but they treated Belta ass forty

684
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: one to you know, it should have been like forty

685
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: one to ten. But the Ravens or the brown scored

686
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: a meaningless touchdown. But both those two teams are so good,

687
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: these two quarterbacks are so dominant. But to me, the

688
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: theme with these two guys this year, in these two

689
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: organizations is its super Bowl bit or bust. If we're

690
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: not winning the AFC, it is a major disappointment. Now

691
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: there's only I would say two teams. Now I would

692
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: throw the Eagles in as well, and you could argue

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Speaker 1: the Packers just because the trade, but they haven't been

694
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl in twenty ten. There are two

695
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: teams that can be disappointed if they don't win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That'd be the Chiefs. They've been to five

697
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: or six of them, and the Eagles they've been two

698
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: of the last three and they're defending champs. But I

699
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: think anything less than winning the AFC when you got

700
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson in their prime and the way

701
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: this league is kind of kind of playing out, it's

702
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna be disappointing. And I would say, on a lesser level,

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00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: now that Burrow's out, Mike Tomlin better have like a

704
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: rally the troops speech because this defense, which I bought into,

705
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I kind of understand why they made some

706
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: of these moves getting rid of Minka at these corners.

707
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: You got a sweet defensive line. There's gonna be this tough,

708
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: physical team one of the you know, even if they're

709
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: not top two or three defense, I be like a

710
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Speaker 1: top six or seven defense. Rogers will just solidify them

711
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. Instead, they kind of feel like a joke.

712
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: They can't run the ball, they have no physicality on offense,

713
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: and defensively they're getting shredded. It's like, what's going on here?

714
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: Got you're down twenty four to seventeen. You need to

715
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: stop and you can't get it. They go right down

716
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Speaker 1: the field score a touchdown. So this is a type

717
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: game you got Burrow now out for the season. If

718
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Speaker 1: you're Tomlin playing the Patriots this week, Like, if you

719
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: can't win this game pretty handily, I might just be

720
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: on this team. Now. I wouldn't say they're gonna have

721
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: like a Jets type season like last year, but this

722
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: thing could get really weird. You know. Part of the

723
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Speaker 1: reason you take an older version of Aaron Rodgers, Like

724
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: we got Mike Tomlin. He can just handle this situation.

725
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: Something is off in that organization. And I bought into

726
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: the Kumbaya honeymoon phase that was their training camp and

727
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: now you're watching them through two weeks, like, what the

728
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: fuck is this? So I listen, there's not pressure on

729
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers to make it to the super Bowl, but

730
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: if they missed the playoffs with the way this AFC

731
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Speaker 1: is shaping out, especially in their division, where now now

732
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: the Bengals like feel like you can check them off

733
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Speaker 1: and the Browns are a joke. Double digit favorites or

734
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: underdogs back to back weeks. It's week two and three,

735
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: it's the middle of September, and you're already ten eleven,

736
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: twelve point underdog. Like that's pretty embarrassing. So it shows

737
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: you like the Steelers. Mike Tomlin like this, this is

738
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Speaker 1: a pretty big week. And I'll end on this. We

739
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: have some recent history of guys resurrecting their career. We

740
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: saw it tonight, I mean two or three years ago,

741
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: before he got to Tampa. You know, we talked about

742
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. Haters wrote him off. Most people weren't even

743
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: haters were just writing Baker off. We didn't think he

744
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: was any good. Everyone before last year made fun of

745
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. These guys resurrected their career. I mean, Baker

746
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, and

747
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is a legitimate starter, right, Daniel Jones. Listen,

748
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: the Giant situation, it's just a bizarre place. And ever

749
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: since they got rid of Tom or I almost said Tomlin,

750
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Tom Koughlin, they have just been losing year in year out.

751
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: They do feel like they're a little bit better this year,

752
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: but again they're gonna lose a lot, and they're gonna

753
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: be best case scenario like seven and ten and if

754
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: you had to bet, probably more like five or six wins.

755
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: People just lose there and listen, Daniel Jones was objectively

756
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: awful last year. He was terrible, even in the year

757
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: where they went whatever nine and eight and beat the Vikings.

758
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: Look at a status. It's not like he threw forty touchdowns.

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00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: He has never been like even when he's good, that good.

760
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: But the way he's playing early on in this season

761
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: is pretty impressive. And sometimes his comp coming out of

762
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: college was Alex Smith. That's what he was. He was

763
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna be like Alex Smith. Now. Should Alex Smith looking back,

764
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: have been drafted number one overall, probably not. This guy

765
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: named Aaron Rodgers should have gone. Should Daniel Jones have

766
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: been drafted six overall? Probably not. But when you watch

767
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: him play, you go he's tall, he's really athletic, he's

768
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: got a solid arm. And right now, here's what the

769
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: Colts got a lot of skill guys. They have several

770
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Speaker 1: wide receivers, they have a tight end who looks fantastic.

771
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Speaker 1: And here's where you gotta be careful in the draft.

772
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Speaker 1: Everyone's like Loveland out of Michigan. He's twitchier, he's faster,

773
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: he's more explosive, he's the better ceiling. It's like Tyler

774
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Warren's just he's he's not as good of an athlete.

775
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Will his skills translate to the open field, to the

776
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: NFL speed, It's like, yeah, actually, he's just a really

777
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: good football player. Instincts, his just natural feel for space. Obviously,

778
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: his ball skills are elite. Like, the guy's gonna make

779
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. Is he ever gonna be Gronkowski or Kittle?

780
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but I'll promise you this, he's gonna be

781
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: really good player for a long period of time. And

782
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is clearly one of the best running backs

783
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So for a guy that had a

784
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: lot of question marks that everyone rode off, went to

785
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: a really, really good spot and looks pretty good. So

786
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: I do think there is a chance, like long way

787
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: to go. I wouldn't just put this team at like

788
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve wins now, but clearly they're gonna be

789
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: pretty good. They can move the football and defensively, it's

790
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: just it's hard to be as horrendous as they were

791
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of years with Gus Bradley. Loui Amruno

792
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: was viewed as a really good coach a couple of

793
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: years ago when he had good players in Cincinnati. He's

794
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator. So they upgraded their coaching staff.

795
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: They have good offensive pieces, and they got a guy

796
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: like why couldn't he have like a Sam Dormold type moment,

797
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: a Gino Smith type moment, And if he does, if

798
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: this continues, he is gonna save their jobs. So while

799
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: the owner is on the sideline with the earpiece on

800
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: taking notes at the end of the day, whether she

801
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: knows what they're saying or not, whether it's all performative

802
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: and it's just she just wants to be seen on

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00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: the sideline, or it's real, she's like doing some serious

804
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: judgment judgments of what everyone's saying. The only thing at

805
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: the end of the day. That's going to matter is

806
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: like you go eleven and six and you win the division.

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00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: That's gonna trump everything that she's writing down in her

808
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: stupid little notebook. So, if I'm Chris Ballard and I'm

809
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken, my job was on the line. My seat

810
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: was scolding hot. It felt like the organization was about

811
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: to fall apart because of the whiff of our draft

812
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: pick on Anthony Richardson. Who would have thought Daniel Jones

813
00:42:49,360 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: might be their lifeline? Okay, Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff

814
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: is the Instagram fire in those dms, get your questions

815
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: answered here on the show. I have a lot of

816
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: mailbag questions, so I will I'll try to bank them

817
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: out over the next couple of days. Jonah. In this

818
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: last week's game between the Eagles and Chiefs, the start

819
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: of the end when it comes to the tush push.

820
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: The Eagles game highlighted what's broken about the toush push

821
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Speaker 1: with players from both sides jumping off sides. Ignoring all

822
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: of that and focusing on what tush push supporters have

823
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: said is that other teams could do it if they

824
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: wanted to. The NBA changed how free throws were taken

825
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: because Wilt Chamberlain was dunking his free throws. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember that. I might need to google that he was

827
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Speaker 1: dunking his free throws, might need to get caught up

828
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: here on basketball history. But I'm gonna take I'm gonna

829
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: believe you. I think that press for the NFL to

830
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Speaker 1: ban it, even if Jalen Hurts is the only player

831
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: capable of doing I think it's pretty simple. There was

832
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: a groundswell of support to get rid of it last year.

833
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: The Eagles did a good job of campaigning and fending

834
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Speaker 1: it off, but I don't think that's gonna go anywhere,

835
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Speaker 1: and watching that one of the best and most I

836
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Speaker 1: don't know. The beauty of football is the unknown. On

837
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Speaker 1: a given play, you don't know what's coming, and even

838
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: if you have some idea, it is not inevitable. It's like, hey,

839
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Speaker 1: it's fourth and one, they're gonna give it to Derrick Henry,

840
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: or they're gonna have Patrick Mahomes rollout or whatever. You

841
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna get the first down, right,

842
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't care if Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes your quarterback

843
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: or Bryce Young's your quarterback. Anything can happen on any

844
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: given play, and that's not the case with a toushbush.

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Speaker 1: If several teams could pull it off, which clearly they cannot,

846
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: but even if the number and I'm stealing this from

847
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: somewhere because I heard someone mention this in the last

848
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, this play would have been gone if

849
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: it was something that everyone was doing, even if a

850
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: quarter of the league was doing it, because it's the

851
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: most boring play we've ever seen. Because even with a

852
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak, you don't know if they're gonna get it,

853
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: and they get denied all the time. This play they

854
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: always get it. They always get it, and if it's

855
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: even close, they're third and one, they're rolling it out there,

856
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: so they basically get two plays to always get a

857
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: first down. And it just sucks. Now I get if

858
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: you're an Eagle fan, like, screw you guys, right, it's

859
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: a legal play, and technically it is legal, but it's

860
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: really boring and it's not consumer friendly. And the one

861
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: thing the NFL is good about when it's anti consumer

862
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: they will pivot. So this play, the Eagles better take

863
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: advantage of this because they are going to ban this play.

864
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: My guess would be this offseason, but it's gonna live

865
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: throughout the season. The Niners were getting a lot of

866
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: heat for the amount of injuries that they have, but

867
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: look what's happening around the league, injuries mounting all over

868
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: the place. Do you think that perhaps the NFL should

869
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: allow teams to go full pads in training camp and

870
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: allow them to hit more often two a days, etc.

871
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: Seems like these soft training camps could be a problem.

872
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Two days are never coming back. Ever, that's never happening.

873
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: They got in the twenty eleven CBA. I got into

874
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: the NFL in twenty ten, Andy Reid had a couple

875
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: weeks of two days. It was intense. That next year

876
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: the lockout happened, hold out, strike, whatever the hell it was.

877
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: I guess it was a lockout. And one thing the

878
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: players were adamant about doing was more time off and

879
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: that has not changed in fifteen years and that is

880
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: not going to change. So to me, two a days

881
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: is never coming back. But when you have a practice

882
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: you can't hit, you can tackle to the ground like

883
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: nothing is holding these teams back from being really physical.

884
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's practices are still really physical. If you went

885
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: to one of their training camps and their players talk

886
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: about this. A lot of players that come in free

887
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: agency are stunned by how intense it is because when

888
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: you do practice, even though you only get one true

889
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: padded practice a day, and then I think it's like

890
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: every four days during training camp you have to give

891
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: them an off day, but you could tackle to the ground.

892
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: No one's holding that back from you. Now, I understand

893
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of people are like, hey, I got

894
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: ten plus guys on my team making over fifteen million dollars.

895
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: If one of them gets injured in a tackle a practice,

896
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: that's hard to stomach. So I think the finances of

897
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: the sport has dramatically shifted the mindset. And I don't

898
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: know if there's any way of putting the toothpaste back

899
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: in the tube on this one. So are these guys

900
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: rolling ankles and hurting knees and getting turf toe because

901
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: of practice? I'm the wrong guy to answer this question.

902
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: I have a couple, you know, an undergraduate and a

903
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: graduate degrees that are completely worthless, and I learned nothing

904
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: in the classroom. So I can't tell you I don't know,

905
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: but through my experience I can say there's no perfect

906
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: way to do this. Clearly, there's a reason you spar

907
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: before a boxing match or UFC before you get in

908
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: the octagon, right, you want to build up the calluses.

909
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: And there's got to be something to it that back

910
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: in the day. I've had people tell me, and I

911
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: do think there's some validity to this. Is in the seventies,

912
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties, these guys did not train three

913
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five days a year like they do now,

914
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Like a huge part of rest in recovery is just

915
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: that not doing anything. And let's use McCaffrey as an example.

916
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: I admire his work ethic, but does training basically all

917
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: year round is that good for your body? Now, there's

918
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: got to be a balance, right, what these guys do

919
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: now and the information they have and the way they

920
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: eat is surely better than a dude in like the eighties.

921
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: But like did Barry Sanders and Walter Payton and some

922
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: of these guys back in the day, we miss a

923
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: lot of time. It doesn't feel like it, So I

924
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a great answer to this.

925
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: There are things that I think we laugh at about

926
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: the old timers that like, yeah, smoking cigarettes, you know,

927
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: during training camp, probably not a great idea, but come

928
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: into training camp a little out of shape and then

929
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: getting after it for a month. If you look at

930
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: some of these guys' game logs, maybe it was better now.

931
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: Maybe if you see some of them walk around and

932
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: move now. I don't know, I don't, I don't know,

933
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: but whatever's happening, guys dropping like flies. This is not

934
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: a sustainable model. The way we're at right now. I mean,

935
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: speaking to this with Cincinnati, it's looking like it won't

936
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: ever change anytime soon. Who do you think will be

937
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: the bigger what if athlete when it's all said and done,

938
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: Burrow or Andrew Luck. It's a great question. I do

939
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: think Andrew Luck was a better player. Again, I'm nitpicking here.

940
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean Burrow's excellent as well. But Burrow does have

941
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl berth and beating Patrick Mahomes. Andrew never

942
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: won the af Championship, though he got there one time

943
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: and then got his teeth kicked in by the Patriots.

944
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, I think both are heading that way.

945
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: The difference is Andrew just kind of disappeared. He was

946
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: just gone. You know, Burrow, we see him play. I

947
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: feel like we see Burrow play more and then he

948
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: gets injured. I'd have to do like a thorough breakdown

949
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: and compare year to year. Yeah, I mean, I would

950
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: say it's not good. Now. Luck had a bad shoulder injury,

951
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: which has a huge impact on how you throw the ball.

952
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: Where Burrow you know this turf toe injury, which, let's

953
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: face it ruins a season. If you tell me three

954
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: month injury, it's like, well, do the math. Mid October,

955
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: mid November, mid December, Like it's over. You'd bet on

956
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna rehab to come back with three games left,

957
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: especially if they're losing no chance. So I think sometimes

958
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: there are franchises that just feel doomed. And that's kind

959
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: of what Mike Brown the Cincinnati Bengals feel like. Yeah,

960
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I would say they're both in

961
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: a category that is shitty for us. The more good quarterbacks,

962
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: the more great players, the better the sport is. Right,

963
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: The less Joe Burrows and Andrew lux that are playing

964
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: on Sundays, the worse it is. And I'm in the

965
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: business to have this sport be as well received and

966
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: watched by as many people as humanly possible. So I

967
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: think it sucks. When Joe Burrow gets injured, it has

968
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: a negative impact on the product. There's no way around it.

969
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: I feel like baseball and basketball franchises like the Rockies

970
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: and Hornets that I sometimes forget are even still around.

971
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: Does the NFL have any franchises that could be considered irrelevant?

972
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: I feel like there are franchises that are off, but

973
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: also that football is so popular that there is a

974
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: rising tide lift all boats situation that will keep any

975
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: NFL franchise from becoming irrelevant. You know, if the Rockies

976
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: are good, let's use the example. If the Rockies are

977
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: good or the Hornets are good, which they're not very often,

978
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: but let's just say they are a playoff team, they

979
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: still don't really matter. And that's where I think it

980
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: dramatically is different in the NFL, like right now the Panthers.

981
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: Like when I look over and I see a Panthers

982
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: game like playing the Cardinals, I know that game does

983
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: not matter for what I do. I'm not going to

984
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: talk about it. It's just not going to be something

985
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: relevant yet. If the Eagles, the Cowboys, the Packers, the

986
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: forty nine ers were in that situation, it would be

987
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: something that I would pay closer attention to right, because

988
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: their brands, their fan bases are dramatically bigger. But we've

989
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: seen the Panthers be really good with Cam Newton and

990
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: they they're playing primetime games and they rate and they matter, right.

991
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: So I think the difference in the NFL than the

992
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: NBA is they have franchises. When they suck, we just

993
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of whatever, who cares? Don't You don't even need

994
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: to talk or think about them right where It's like

995
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: in the NBA, if the Lakers suck, they're still getting

996
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: talked about all the time. If the Warriors suck, they're

997
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: still getting talked about all the time. The Knicks as well. Baseball,

998
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: if the Yankees or Red Sox or Dodgers are down,

999
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: like there's still a major talking point. But the difference

1000
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: is if the Rockies are good, still no one's paying attention.

1001
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: Where if these other teams that aren't quote unquote huge

1002
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: brands and nationally relevant are good, we're all watching and

1003
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: they will get big numbers on Sunday Night football, on

1004
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: Monday night football, Thursday night football, big games on Sunday afternoon.

1005
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I see it in my own YouTube numbers

1006
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: with like the Atlanta Falcons like their brand like relative

1007
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: to other NFL teams, is not as big. But if

1008
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: they have back to back years of winning like eleven

1009
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: or twelve games, like with Matty Ice and Julio Jones,

1010
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: they will become a team that people are accustomed to

1011
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: watching on big games. But it did feel, you know,

1012
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: even Week two Atlanta Minnesota, Atlanta felt a little out

1013
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: of place, and in fairness, they won the game. Question

1014
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: for the bag. Thoughts on Spencer Rattler and the improvements

1015
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: he's made to start this season. He's looked better than

1016
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams despite being in a worse situation. Hot take.

1017
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: Not sure how much worse his situation is. I think

1018
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: the Saints Actually, I was texting a buddy, was like,

1019
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: you know what, I think the Saints have good offensive personnel.

1020
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: They have Chris Lave, they have Shaheen. I mean, those

1021
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: two wide receivers are good. They traded for I might

1022
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: screw up his name, val Vala from Denver, who had

1023
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: a touchdown against the Niners. Who's a big bodied guy.

1024
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: They're tight end eighty three, good player, Alvin Kamara one

1025
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: of the better running backs. I mean, I don't know

1026
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: if he's Saquon Barkley or Derrick Henry, but he's a

1027
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: really good NFL player. They got good personnel on offense.

1028
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: They have an offensive head coach. I was impressed with

1029
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: Ratler in that game. As the game went on, I

1030
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: was like, this guy's not bad. Like I understand, of course,

1031
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck can't beat this guy up there. There's no

1032
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: chance on God's Green Earth that Tyler Shuck's as good

1033
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: as that guy. So my take was like, yeah, the

1034
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Saints offense is not terrible. Defensively, they probably suck, but

1035
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: offensively they definitely have some pieces and they have team speed.

1036
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: These have some explosive playmakers. I was kind of impressed.

1037
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, people probably make fun of the Cardinals and

1038
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: Niners like, oh, that's not a great win. I don't

1039
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: think the Saints are just some like watching them, they

1040
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: feel and I've bet on the Titans two weeks in

1041
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: a row. The Saints are better. One thing about you know,

1042
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: hype and how you come in right. Rattler was what

1043
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick and Caleb was the greatest thing

1044
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: since slice spread. Once you start playing, none of that matters, right,

1045
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: None of it matters, and hype just becomes that white

1046
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: noise Internet talk. Right, can you make players you can't?

1047
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: Can you block someone or you can't. What do you

1048
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: do with the ball in your hands? Can you break

1049
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: tackles or you can't? Like, no one cares about any

1050
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: of that once the game starts or during the week

1051
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: when you're preparing and getting ready for practice. So I'll

1052
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: be honest, I wrote Spencer Rattler off years ago, and

1053
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: he went to South Carolina resurrect his career. Clearly the

1054
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: last couple of years, it feels like the Saints like him.

1055
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Speaker 1: Hat tip to him because right now I'm with you.

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00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: It feels like it's he's just a better player than

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00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Happens all the time, right, I mean, it

1058
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: happens all the time. The guys become better players than

1059
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: guys that they shouldn't be better players, man, But that's

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00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: the way the NFL works. It's like, eventually you just

1061
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: got to make some place you either can function or

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00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: you can't. You either can consistently complete routes against certain

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00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: pressures and defenses or you can't. You either can play

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: from within the pocket or you can't. And it's not

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00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: like Rattler or some bad athlete. He was running around

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00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: making plays with his legs. With Mac Jones' performance with

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: Kyle calling plays, is it fair to say that Josh

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00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: McDaniels is overrated. He didn't get much out of Mac

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: and hasn't done much without Brady. I would say Josh

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00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: McDaniels stock is definitely has not been a bye over

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00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and right now, at best

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00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: it's like a hold and keep track of now. I listen,

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00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones has his limitations and he's playing the Saints,

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00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: which isn't great now. Granted he's throwing to you know,

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00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: banged up Juwan Jennings, Ricky Piersoll. You know, the Irish

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00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: personnel is actually not bad. Ricky Pearsoll is a good player,

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00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: and McCaffrey's healthy and is a good player. But a

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00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: lot of Kendrick Bourne who just signed. Comparing Kyle to

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, if you just remove Tom Brady, which I

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00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan, Matt Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, Sean McVay, Andy Reid,

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, every decent coordinator let alone, the good guys

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00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: would have dominated with Tom. But can you coach with

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00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Can you coach with Jimmy Garoppolo? Can you

1084
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: coach with Alex Smith? Can you coach with all these?

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Because it's been proven Josh McDaniels cannot now can he

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: coach with Drake May? Like I put zero stock into

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: any performance against the Miami Dolphins. So we will see

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 1: as the season goes on. Like Steelers defense isn't great,

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00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: how does it look there? So I would say as

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Speaker 1: someone who supported Josh McDaniels as a great offensive coordinator,

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: I've definitely pulled back on that. Take a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs fan from South Africa, I've always wanted to go there.

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: What a crazy first two weeks, great shows and I'm

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: a big fan. Rex Ryan believes the Chief's inability to

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: commit to the run will remain an Achilles heel on Sunday,

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00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: big runs and then when you think it's starting to work,

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00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: they throw and it goes off Kelsey's hands. Can the

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs beat the Eagles without being able to read the

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00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: temperature in the room and commit to the run when

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Speaker 1: they have the champs on the ropes? Barkley ended up

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00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: with a sneaky eighty eight yards but more effective second

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Speaker 1: half and a pedestrian first half. Let me just what

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Speaker 1: were their final rush attempts, because I felt like they

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Speaker 1: ran the ball a lot. I would say this when

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00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: it comes to Kansas City is they have one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks of all time. Who I understand that

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: they're missing offensive personnel, but when you look at the

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00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: box score against the Eagles, the Chiefs ran the ball

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: twenty six times, the Eagles thirty four. Now that's really

1110
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: not that big of a gap, given that Jalen Hurts

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00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: threw for I mean a pedestrian hundred yards. It's not

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Speaker 1: like Mahomes threw it fifty times. He threw it twenty

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Speaker 1: nine times. He threw it only seven more times than

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. Now, some of these runs were Mahomes scrambling around,

1115
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: but I mean it's I just think that's part of Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: The Andy Reid offense, like Andy Reid for twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: is gonna call more passes than runs. He also throws

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Speaker 1: the ball to the running back. Pajaco got to catch,

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: Hunt got a catch. So I don't know, I have

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Speaker 1: seen way worse in that situation of them not running

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Speaker 1: the ball. Rex Ryan's teams led the league in rushing.

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Speaker 1: Like the couple teams that he had that were good

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Speaker 1: with the Jets, they were not passing teams. They led

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Speaker 1: the league in rushing and they played defense. It's not

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Speaker 1: the way Andy Reid has gone to five out of

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Speaker 1: the last six Super Bowls. He honestly runs the ball

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01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: now than he ever has. And here's the thing. His

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Speaker 1: running backs were Kareem Hunt, who averaged three point nine

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Speaker 1: yards to carry eight carries for thirty one yards, and

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Speaker 1: Pachaco ten rushes for twenty two yards. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: what are you supposed to keep hammering those guys in

1132
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. At the end of the day,

1133
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: they got Saquon Barkley. If Andy had Saquon, I do

1134
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: think he'd give them the ball more often. But his

1135
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: two running backs are one's a seventh rounder who I liked,

1136
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: but Jaco and Kareem Hunt was a guy that didn't

1137
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Speaker 1: have a job. A longtime listener wanted to bring this

1138
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: question back around to be considered for the Hall of Fame.

1139
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: What does John Schneider and the Hawks need to do

1140
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: the rest of his tenure. Also, it's interesting to watch

1141
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: Seattle build a program with a plant. For so long

1142
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: after LB it was relying on rust to save him

1143
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Cool to see them have a

1144
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: plan like the Lions as a most recent example, create

1145
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: an identity and start and start to stay true to it.

1146
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, I John Snyder has got a contract extension,

1147
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: He's already been to a couple Super Bowls. When's the

1148
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: last time his team lost? Like, if you look since

1149
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: his tenure as a GM, I mean, have they had

1150
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: a losing record. I'm trying to think. I'm not sure

1151
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: they have. They went seven to ten in two thousand

1152
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: and twenty one. But other than that, I mean, they're

1153
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: gonna be nine and eight, ten and seven this year.

1154
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: They were ten and seven last year, nine and eight,

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01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: nine and eight. I mean, post Rush, they've been pretty good.

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01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: To me. If he gets consistent playoff team the next

1157
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: couple of years, I mean, he's I don't know, he's

1158
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: pretty freaking good, especially when he was the guy pounding

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Speaker 1: the table for Russell Wilson. Now, I you know, historically

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Speaker 1: it's a little harder for gms to get into the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I don't know. I don't really think

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Speaker 1: about it like that. I think about Hall of Fame

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: more for coaches than for gms. But you know, Brett

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01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,479
Speaker 1: Beach has three Super Bowls he has, he not gonna

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01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. Howie Roseman has two super

1166
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Speaker 1: Bowls with two different quarterbacks, two different coaches. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. John Schneider's been to two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. He's gonna be in the mix for sure.

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01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: He's got still I think if he got to one

1170
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: more super Bowl with a different quarterback, it'd be hard

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Speaker 1: to keep him out. I have a question for the mailback.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Chiefs fan, and in a light of the

1173
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: recent Chiefs Eagles game, how can the tush push continue

1174
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: to be run with it being so hard to officiate?

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: It seemed to me that there was two false starts

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: on the Eagles running play. When they showed the replay,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it seemed there definitely was, but because

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01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: it's such a tight formation, it's almost impossible for the

1179
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: officials to see. Same as the end of the game

1180
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 1: where the Chiefs say they recovered the ball, I don't

1181
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: believe that they did, but it got me thinking it'd

1182
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: be so hard to see anything live on replay assists

1183
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: because there are so many guys on the pile. I'm

1184
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: telling you, guys this thing. This is last year. They

1185
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: gave Jason Kelce the owners meeting, the impassioned speech, he

1186
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: had Howie Roseman fighting, and they did a good job.

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Speaker 1: They ran a winning campaign. It looked like they were

1188
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: going to lose. They campaigned and they flipped the votes.

1189
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: But that is not going to happen again, especially the

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01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: negativity around that play. They're kind of a boring team

1191
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: to watch right now as is. I know, I know

1192
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: they're winning, but when that's your most effective offensive play call,

1193
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: I just think people are gonna turn on you. And

1194
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: the other thing is when you win, people get people

1195
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: get bored with you as well. Danny Dives is he

1196
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: making an MVP run? Adam Schefter? How about this? The

1197
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: Colts are the first team in the Super Bowl era

1198
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: not to punt in either one of their first two games.

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Speaker 1: What I said about the Saints where I'm like God,

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Speaker 1: they got a lot of decent, good offensive players, Like

1201
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: a lot of their guys would start on Super Bowl contenders.

1202
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Colts. I go, well, Pittman's really good,

1203
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren is everyone was like Loveland his attributes, he's

1204
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: just gonna be Well, I'm watching Tyler Warren, Like, yeah,

1205
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: he might have been a little slower, he might not

1206
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: have been as explosive, but that works. Like he's gonna

1207
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: be playing in the NFL making plays. For a long time,

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: he was the best player and one of the best

1209
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: teams in college football. Now you put him in the

1210
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: NFL and he's immediately running around Denver Broncos on defense.

1211
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: So you got him, you got Pierce Can makes plays. Obviously,

1212
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is one of the best running backs. Like,

1213
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: they got really good offensive personnel. They drafted Mitchell two

1214
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: years ago from Texas, who is just an explosive player.

1215
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: It's hard not to watch Indian go God. If Daniel

1216
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: Jones can just kind of be like an Alex Smith

1217
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: version of which he was always destined to be. If

1218
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: he was going to hit, it could not be bad.

1219
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: Now is it going to continue? Are they just gonna

1220
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: be the best offense in the league. Well, they have

1221
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator who's their head coach that a couple

1222
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: of years ago is viewed as a genius, and then

1223
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson made him look like an idiot. Sometimes You know,

1224
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: we shit on coaches, and I'm guilty as anybody. I'll

1225
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: be as aggressive on being negative toward coaches as anyone

1226
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: that talks about football. But sometimes we need to shed

1227
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: light on that player is so crappy. He made that

1228
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: coach look bad. And that's what Anthony Richison was doing

1229
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: to Shane ssyching. It made Shane styke and look bad

1230
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: and him kind of like having to do things that

1231
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: he would never do on and off the field, right.

1232
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: It made him look bad on press conferences, It made

1233
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: him look bad at the podium, It made him probably

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: look bad in his locker room. Maybe it's Anthony Richison,

1235
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: because I've seen Shane Siken removing Anthony Richison and it works.

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: I keep hearing that Caleb is playing well in the

1237
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: first quarter while he's running Ben Johnson's scripted plays, but

1238
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: after that everything falls apart. Curious if you could give

1239
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: some insight on why they can't script more plays. I

1240
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: understand as the score changes, so does the flow of

1241
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: the game, but it'd be so much better on script.

1242
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: Why can't he script the first thirty plays instead of

1243
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: the first ten? You know that would be a great

1244
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 1: question for is an offensive coordinator or a head coach,

1245
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: because I don't know the answer to that. Maybe the

1246
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: timing throughout the week it would be harder. You know,

1247
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 1: you run a lot of plays, and you game plan

1248
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: a lot of plays that quote unquote are are put

1249
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: into the game plan Wednesday, Thursday, Friday that might not

1250
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: be in your first ten. So you have practiced those

1251
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: plays now. I think what they want is against a

1252
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: specific look. So if you get that look, you have

1253
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: practiced that play throughout the week, potentially multiple times, and

1254
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: it's just about does the defense give you the look

1255
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: you want? And if they don't, then it can look bad.

1256
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: But I think you run a lot of plays during

1257
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: the week that aren't part of your scripted ten or

1258
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: scripted first fifteen plays that then get run in the games.

1259
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: What do you think you're doing in practice? Even red

1260
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: zone period, third down period. You're gonna run a lot

1261
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: of plays against the defense that you think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: see from the team in practice them throughout the week.

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: So a lot of these play calls that they're calling

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: for Caleb in the second half of these games, they

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01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: may not have scripted in a sequence, because how do

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01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: I script in a sequence in the third quarter when

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: the game is twenty one to three or vice versa.

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: We're up twenty one to three, right, So I'm not

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01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: gonna keep calling these pass plays. We're gonna call some runs,

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: but they are run plays that we have run, if

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: not that week, we hammered throughout training camp or earlier

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01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: in the season. So they're typically not calling plays even

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: past the quote unquote script that he's not run a

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: bunch of times in the offseason in training camp, and

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01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: obviously the season goes on potentially countless times. I think

1276
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: the hardest part about football, it's what makes Brady Rogers,

1277
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: Peyton Mahomes all these guys, is like as a game

1278
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: goes on, you have to be able to call your plays.

1279
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: Like when Mahomes goes the line against the Eagles, he's

1280
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna call a play that Andy calls in that they've

1281
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: run countless times. They might get the defense they look

1282
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: they're looking for, they might not, and if they're not,

1283
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: he has to change on the fly. And if he

1284
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: changes on the fly, and then he takes the snap

1285
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: and then he realizes I was wrong, can he figure

1286
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: it out from there? So it's like the test is

1287
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: constantly changing. It changes when you get up to the

1288
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,959
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, you look around, then you make a decision,

1289
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: and then once the ball is snapped, they might change

1290
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: what you think they were doing, so then you have

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01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,520
Speaker 1: to change your decision based on that, including the wide receivers,

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01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Like, there's just a lot of moving parts,

1293
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: and no matter how much you script football, you can

1294
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: never like, this isn't a song, this isn't a movie.

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01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: I can only control so much as an offensive play caller, Right,

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: what if my guard slips? What happens when my wide

1297
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: receiver runs the wrong route? What happens where we knew

1298
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: the defense they were gonna run, but someone on their

1299
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: defense fucks up. So it's like, yeah, I thought their

1300
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: dB was gonna, you know, run with the tight end

1301
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: down the scene, but he just let the guy go

1302
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: and he just like ran to the flat which we

1303
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: thought was gonna be wide open, but he couldn't throw

1304
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: to the scene because the safety had cheated once he

1305
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: realized the guy had screwed up and he was right there.

1306
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: So it's like there's constantly moving parts. And that's where

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: it feels like Kleb and a lot of young quarterbacks

1308
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: can completely overwhelmed. It's like they don't even know what

1309
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: they're looking at, and then they freak out and they

1310
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: look at the ground and they take a lot of sacks,

1311
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: or run into sacks, or just start running around. That's

1312
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: what it feels like doing. My dad has argued since

1313
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: I was in middle school, I'm about to turn thirty

1314
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: three to eliminate preseason polls in college football. I got

1315
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: on board with him about a decade ago. It influences

1316
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: the perception of teams, especially among members of the committee,

1317
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: which is deciding which teams get to compete for the

1318
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: national championship. I understand why we do preseason polls, but

1319
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: it's time for the committee to come out with a

1320
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: weekly poll after the results of week one. I want

1321
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: to see how well or poorly they do when they

1322
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: don't have an AP or coaches poll to fall back on.

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01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully this gains some traction. I would say this is

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: I don't even think you should have a poll. I

1325
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: know they do it like after week seven. You could

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: do it earlier than that, but I would give it

1327
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: like three weeks. But I'm completely with you. There is

1328
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: a We're human beings, so how could there not be

1329
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: an inherent bias where it's like, hey, this team, you

1330
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: know clearly they're not as good, but you don't tech

1331
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, because they started number two overall.

1332
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: Have you seen arch Manning play football? He looks atrocious.

1333
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: There is no way they could be a top five

1334
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: team with that at quarterback. We have seen teams win

1335
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: the National Championship with a game manager he is. If

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01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: his name was John Middlecoff and not arch Manning, he

1337
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: would get benched like it is that atrocious. So I

1338
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: mean Quinn yours in the middle of a game last

1339
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: year got pulled. I'm completely with you. It doesn't feel

1340
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: like we're anywhere near that happening. Though. What happened at

1341
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: the Denver defense. I know we're only two games in,

1342
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: but I feel like we were sold as a top

1343
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: three defense, and if I were a Denver fan, I'm

1344
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: not liking what I'm seeing your thoughts. I felt like

1345
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: they were way too easy to throw on yesterday, like

1346
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: every time that you know, we had several games going

1347
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: on at one time. But I'm pulling up the box score.

1348
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: How many yards did Daniel Jones throw for? Daniel Jones

1349
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: threw for three hundred yards, so you know, Jonathan Taylor

1350
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: ran for a buck sixty, but one of them was

1351
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: the long run at sixty eight yards, So they held

1352
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: new one hundred yards like they were right in the game,

1353
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: corralling them beside the one big run. I got no

1354
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: issue with a great back. Twenty four carries for one

1355
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: hundred yards. It's like, you know, that's that's whatever. I

1356
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: can live with. That. To me, it was they were

1357
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: distributing it to every single guy. Warren four for seventy nine,

1358
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: Pierce four for sixty eight, Down six for fifty, Jonathan

1359
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: Taylor had a couple catches, Pittman four for forty. It's

1360
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: like every dude is eating. And I don't know if

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01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: it was just that's part of the Colts where it's like, hey,

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: we're not just playing Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson, where

1363
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: we can focus on the true not like they got

1364
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: three or four guys. So maybe that makes it a

1365
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: little more challenging. But on the road, maybe Indy's just

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: playing really well. I wouldn't write them off just quite

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01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: yet as being not a good defense. They only had

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: one sack yesterday. I just thought like there were just

1369
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: guys open, guys making plays in the open field. Maybe

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01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: the Culture is a unique team that they got a

1371
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: lot of bodies, and if their quarterback is gonna play

1372
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: point guard, that even if your defense is really good,

1373
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to cover all these guys because

1374
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: you got six DB's. You know, it's kind of difficult.

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01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: So I don't have a great answer for you. I'm

1376
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna say that I'm still a believer in Denver. I

1377
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: would guess that they get their shit together. They get

1378
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers this week. I'm recording this on Monday, so

1379
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: before the game, so the charge is gonna be coming

1380
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: off a long week. They get the Bengals with the

1381
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. They got to go to Philly. So if

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: they can handle this little stretch like go to and

1383
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: win two of those three games, then they will be well,

1384
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: they be three and two. Then they get the Jets,

1385
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: the Giants, the cow Boys, the Texans, the Raiders. They

1386
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: got some winnable games that Charger games would be pretty

1387
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 1: big for them. Okay, a couple more questions question for

1388
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: the Pod Vikings fan, But I have a question about

1389
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: the Falcons after the game, do they sneakily have two

1390
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: guys that could win defensive Rookie of the Year. I

1391
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: know Minnesota had two good starters on the O line out,

1392
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: but looking at the Falcons schedule and the fact that

1393
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: Baker is the only proven quarterback in the division they'll face,

1394
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: I can't help but think that Pierce and Walker will

1395
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: have great seasons. What do you think I loved Walker

1396
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: ever since that. I mean that Georgia game last year whatever,

1397
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: early mid October where he dominated. It was like, this

1398
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: guy's can't miss guy. I would say he was a

1399
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: pretty polarizing player in NFL circles. I had some people

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: that loved him, and I had other people that thought, like,

1401
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: what's his true Like he's not Khalil Mack power, He's

1402
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: not like because I thought he should have been like

1403
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. He's not like a true bender.

1404
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: I just watch a guy who is, in by all accounts,

1405
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 1: elite character, and I don't just I mean elite football

1406
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: character as well, like Aaron Donald eats football up. I mean,

1407
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: was the heartbeat of the Georgia team. But I watched

1408
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: a guy that's just kind of just a natural pass rusher.

1409
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: He might not have the ideal skills relative to some

1410
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: of these guys, but look at Crosby. One thing Crosby

1411
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: hangs his hat on is like he is he ben

1412
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: the edge like Von Miller, you know, is he does

1413
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: the strongest guy in the league, but his relentless effort.

1414
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: He's obviously a very technically sound guy, and he just

1415
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: plays so hard. When you play your balls off, you're

1416
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: just gonna be pretty good now, Pierce, pretty big wild card,

1417
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: big time talent, major question mark for a lot of

1418
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,879
Speaker 1: teams on the draft board. Well, those guys I always

1419
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: just you never know. But I'm betting on Javon Walker

1420
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: being a good player. I would be stunned if he

1421
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have a really solid season, different player, I would say,

1422
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: But like Jared Verse, just I just think he's just

1423
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: gonna be good now. How good like consistent All pros,

1424
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, I don't know. But I just don't bet

1425
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: against guys like that. I just think guys that play

1426
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: that hard, guys that were that good in college, the

1427
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: guys with that character makeup and off the field kind

1428
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: of wiring. It works. So I'm with you, and you

1429
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: bring Leonard Floyd. Their past rush definitely looks a lot

1430
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: better with those three guys. Okay, last questions, about the

1431
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: toushbush again. This is It's just I can't believe we

1432
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,879
Speaker 1: talked this much about a quarterback sneak, but I understand

1433
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: why I wanted to. We'll end on this. I wanted

1434
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: to ask you about the Toush push we heard about

1435
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: all off season, how there were several owners who wanted

1436
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: to play band for various reasons, most of which centered

1437
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: around it being boring and visually unappealing play. I was

1438
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: wondering if a rule change is even necessary. From the

1439
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: overhead shots and even some down the line of scrimmage,

1440
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: it looks as though the center is directly over and

1441
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: sometimes even ahead of the ball. Wouldn't this mean he's

1442
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: lined up in the neutral zone? You'd have to get

1443
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: Blandino or one of those guys, because it definitely feels

1444
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: like they're all leaning over. I wonder if the way

1445
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: to quote unquote ban it during the season is to

1446
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: start throwing flags on it. And if they start calling

1447
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: these guys for neutral zone infractions and jumping off sides early,

1448
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: then it'll negate it. Because if it's fourth and one

1449
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 1: and I throw the flag and you go back five yards,

1450
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: you're not running that on fourth and five. So, and

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01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: I know Siriani and the team's aggressive, but are they

1452
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: gonna Are they gonna go for it at midfield on

1453
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: fourth and five, especially if Jalen has one of his

1454
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: classic like one hundred yards through three quarters passing the ball. Now,

1455
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: they got two guys that can run it in Jalen

1456
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: and Saquon, I mean shit, if they wanted to institute

1457
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: like the option with their offensive line and how good

1458
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: of a runner Jalen is and Saquon they could be.

1459
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: For those of you that are my age or older,

1460
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: like the Nebraska Tommy Fraser Lawrence Phillip days of the

1461
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: late nineties, it would be an unstoppable play. You could

1462
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: argue if they wanted to go old school because the

1463
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 1: touch push is I mean somewhat of an old school

1464
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: play like run the option, it would dominate. I'd be

1465
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: stunned with everyone talking about them jumping off sides, with

1466
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: them doing it to the Chiefs that they get flagged

1467
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 1: here in the next couple weeks trying to run that play.

1468
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: Their guys are gonna jump like that. Appreciate the questions.

1469
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,799
Speaker 1: I'll answer questions all week. Keep them coming at John Middlecoff.

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