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Speaker 1: What time is it game Time? I want to start

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Speaker 1: with the New York Giants, because if I said there's

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Speaker 1: a team in the state of New York, Brian Daboles

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side, Singletary's one of the running backs,

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Speaker 1: good left tackle, serviceable o line, one, great weapon, really

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Speaker 1: strong defensive front. No, that's not the Buffalo Bills. That's

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Speaker 1: the Giants. And if you gave Josh Allen to the Giants,

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Speaker 1: we would talk about them in the Super Bowl bubble.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have a lot of components that Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: teams have outside of quarterback. They need to draft the

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Speaker 1: the Bills did for years until they drafted James Cook.

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Speaker 1: They had Devin Singletary, who who doesn't didn't have a

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Speaker 1: they got Stefon Diggs, it was good defensive front, capable coach,

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Speaker 1: dable in the room, Singletary at back, good left tackle,

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Speaker 1: serviceable ole line, excellent defensive front, one great weapon. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants are hopeless. They just Brian

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Speaker 1: Dabole is coaching his butt off. I mean Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: to night. They dominate time of possession. With no run

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Speaker 1: time of possession. Daniel Jones goes twenty nine to forty

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Speaker 1: until the very end, didn't have an interception, no touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He's not throwing interceptions anymore. And they go against Dallas

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Speaker 1: and with no deep down the field thread, they're getting

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Speaker 1: the ball the neighbors. He had twelve catches, but the Giants,

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Speaker 1: with no run game and a mediocre quarterback, dominate time

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Speaker 1: of possession against Dak Prescott, pretty good quarterback, and Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy a Super Bowl winning coach. I think Dable is

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Speaker 1: you know he would never win like even honorable mentioned

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year, but because their record won't be good.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like the Giants are hopeless. They're just

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Speaker 1: hopeless quarterback. And so that's where an owner interfered and

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Speaker 1: a general manager and a coach are doing the best

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Speaker 1: they can. But they're a little bit trap because you

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna have dead cap money if they move off.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. He is serviceable now. He could certainly on

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be good elsewhere because he wouldn't have neighbors

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Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have Dable. But there's pieces of the

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Speaker 1: great cornerback class. This is a six win team, five

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys. Even the Georgia quarterback now

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Meanwhile, it was eleven penalties. Jesus, if you

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Speaker 1: took Ceede Lamb out of this team, there is nothing there.

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Speaker 1: you know. I like their field goalkicker. He missed one

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Speaker 1: New York Giants hit on a quarterback next year, Let's

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Speaker 1: a lot of the bad teams have their quarterbacks, right,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna give them a shot. So the Giants win

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Speaker 1: five games, you know, they're not going to be Dallas

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Speaker 1: their future. I like Dable more than Mike McCarthy. I

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Speaker 1: their left tackle more than Dallas. They both have good weapons. Owner,

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Speaker 1: Dallas is kind of trapped. They're paying Fortune. They'll pay Micah,

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Speaker 1: who I like. I don't love a fortune. They're paying

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Speaker 1: their offensive line is just okay, no juice in the

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Speaker 1: backfield average it tight end very ced Lamb and he's great,

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Speaker 1: And they're stuck with Dak, who's good B plus, it's

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Speaker 1: like having Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: In his prime.

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Speaker 1: It's good, be plush. We wouldn't get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But if the Giants next year, let's say they have

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Speaker 1: get Quinn yours and he's good. And Brian Dable is

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Speaker 1: really good with quarterbacks. He's made Daniel Jones now that

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Speaker 1: he has one weapon and a more serviceable old line capable,

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Speaker 1: better future if you got Quinn viewers or back and

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Speaker 1: you established pretty quickly. Guy can play little Bumpy for sure,

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Speaker 2: Do you like?

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Speaker 1: Dabors stable weapons? You can get a running back every year,

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Speaker 1: just draft them. They're out there. I don't know's I

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Speaker 1: know Dallas dominates this series, and I know everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: the helbot is very influential. But you know you're stuck

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Speaker 1: Eleven penalties. He's always been penalty plagued. I mean, tonight

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Speaker 1: Mike has heard DeMarcus Lawrence banged up. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm being just overly negative. Laker fans feel the

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Speaker 1: same way, but this I said this to day on

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Speaker 1: FS one. You know, family owned and operated just felt

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what Larry Ellison has with Oracle, maybe that's it.

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Speaker 1: But by and large, I like the staying kronkey of

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Speaker 1: I really don't. And it's not a shot at DAK.

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Speaker 1: Think about this, Dak is twenty four and four against

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Speaker 1: was like Big Ben for years eight on Cincinnati and Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: like nine years. You got to get multiple playoff wins.

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Speaker 1: You got to show up in the conference championship, you

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Speaker 1: got to show up in a super Bowl. Pittsburgh did it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Pittsburgh, Tomlin, they get to a couple of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Okay, they beat in Arizona, they beat the Seattle.

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Speaker 1: They got theirs. It didn't end like you'd like in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: but they got theirs. When Cincinnati and Cleveland were, you know,

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Speaker 1: not great have star quarterbacks. Well, Washington and New York

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Speaker 1: They beat the New York Giants last year by seventy

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold four touchdowns, no pick so thirty four thirty

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that moves. But Darnald gives them what they

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Speaker 1: were hoping. JJ McCarthy gives them. With Kevin o'caonn he

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Speaker 1: just gives you juice. Now, Stafford doesn't give you a

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Speaker 1: ton of that. But Matt is as good as Brady

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Speaker 1: pre snap and throws the prettiest ball arguably in the league.

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Speaker 1: So when you're that good Brady in the pocket pre snap,

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Speaker 1: Brady throws a ball like that, it allows you. And

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Speaker 1: also Brady and Stafford moved great within the pocket. They're

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Speaker 1: great between the tackles. They move constantly. But I, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just watching them, and I'm like the coach,

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Speaker 1: the coordinator, the quarterback, and Darnald. To knock on Darnal,

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Speaker 1: I always said this, there's a little Andrew Lock, a

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Speaker 1: little and a little Carson Wentz, and he became a

439
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Speaker 1: bad version of Carson Wentz, which is he's big, he's strong,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic, he's tough, but Jesus is he reckless. You

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Speaker 1: take out the reckless from Darnold, and I get the big, strong,

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Speaker 1: tough playmaker. You know, this is why people drafted him early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think last year changed his life.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, seeing Brock, who's not as talented him,

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Speaker 4: and he even said this, he's like watching the way

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Speaker 4: that guy prepared, and then being around Kyle, who is like,

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Speaker 4: you know, an old school nineteen eighties coach in terms

448
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Speaker 4: of how he wants things done. I think gave him

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Speaker 4: a whole new perspective on just his football career. And

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Speaker 4: then Kevin O'Connell came through. The Niners wanted to keep him,

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Speaker 4: but they couldn't pay ten million dollars. I think I

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Speaker 4: said this last week, and I don't know how I

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Speaker 4: can't say it again. If this continues and they make

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Speaker 4: the playoffs and they win a playoff game, it's not

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Speaker 4: like they traded up like some of these other teams

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Speaker 4: to get JJ. He just fell into their lap, right essentially, right,

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Speaker 4: they didn't mortgage three first round picks. Do you just

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Speaker 4: let him go? I mean, the everyone's like, why do

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Speaker 4: we talk? These are conversations that you you start having.

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Speaker 4: This is a real life thing. JJ's on a chief contract.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't the number one pick. He was like the

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Speaker 4: tenth or eleventh, So his contract's not crazy. Do you

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Speaker 4: extend Sam Darnald of this if you win twelve games

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Speaker 4: and he's that good with your head? Isn't the whole

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Speaker 4: point of this just to find a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right, So it's like you don't just let him hit

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Speaker 4: free agency and go, we'll see with JJ, because we're going,

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Speaker 4: we're going, we'll see with Caleb. And how's that going.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you could probably get Donald for a

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Speaker 1: he's so appreciative of five. You know, Sam's made some

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Speaker 1: money in his career. You get him for a steal.

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Speaker 1: I had said before the season, let's go to Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Denver Klobbershm twenty six to seven, and I had

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Speaker 1: sent in the first couple of weeks, I said, listen

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Speaker 1: bo Nick's opening against Mike McDonald, the Seahawks, crowd, corners

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Speaker 1: and a pro and Gino Smith. That's a bad open.

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Speaker 1: Then we go next week it's the Steelers and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is a real defense. Go ask the Chargers today

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Speaker 1: today a Tampa defense that's dinged up Vitavilla at the

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Speaker 1: back end. Bon NICKX forty seven rushing yards twenty five

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Speaker 1: to thirty six, Denver blow them out. Wasn't competitive second

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Speaker 1: straight week. I'll say this, I'm not anti Baker. Second

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Speaker 1: straight week he was really rough on third down. He

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Speaker 1: was just not moving the chains.

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Speaker 4: And that awful interception today on this SI Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Baker is off. And again second straight week they couldn't

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Speaker 1: make crucial plays on third down. But when I watched

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Speaker 1: Bonex today, this is what Sean Payton kept texting me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know it's gonna be bumpy, but he

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Speaker 1: moves you. And I talked about this. He moves much

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Speaker 1: better than people think. I'm not he you know. It's

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts isn't fast, but he's elusive. Bone Nicks

494
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Speaker 1: is not quite as elusive, but he's kind of quick,

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Speaker 1: like he can get to the corner. And I'll say

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Speaker 1: this again, they're not babying him. Remember Big Ben's first

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Speaker 1: year with Pittsburgh, he'd throw like sixteen times a game,

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Speaker 1: even to the.

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, like they it was like Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just for protect him. Shawn's not protecting him.

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Speaker 1: He threw it like forty some times against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He threw thirty six times. Today, they're running an offense

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Speaker 1: that you would run with Geno Smith. They don't care.

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Speaker 1: And I said before the season, all these young quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Caleb Jaden, they all have defensive coaches, Drake May, Sean Peyton.

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Speaker 1: I think the development of what this kid is doing

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Speaker 1: is I'm watching him. He made a leap today, John,

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Speaker 1: he looked like a grown up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah to me, when you can run the ball and

510
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Speaker 4: your defense plays well, Sean Payton like, he's gonna learn

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Speaker 4: what I can call and what I can't call for

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Speaker 4: this player and what he's comfortable with. And the only

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Speaker 4: way you learn that is through going through it. Like

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Speaker 4: you said, Seattle looks freaking good. Yeah, I mean, and

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Speaker 4: obviously Pittsburgh's defense is elite, but today felt like the

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Speaker 4: Buccaneers spent all week looking at their record and looking

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Speaker 4: at the Broncos record and we're like, yeah, we're not

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Speaker 4: really going to pay attention. We'll see on game day,

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Speaker 4: and they just got boat raced. That's the thing with

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Speaker 4: the NFL. All of a sudden, you're row in two

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Speaker 4: to zero to three. Yeah, teams who not want to

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Speaker 4: get embarrassed. Bob had that awesome play with his legs,

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Speaker 4: you don't turn the ball over. That helps because he's

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Speaker 4: been throwing the ball to the other team. I mean

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Speaker 4: he's had some passes that also did not get picked

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Speaker 4: that should have been. Yeah, he just looked like in

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Speaker 4: complete control. And you have to wonder mature guy, a

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Speaker 4: little older, maybe his speed up process, Like maybe we

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Speaker 4: don't have to wait till December. Maybe within three or

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Speaker 4: four weeks, he's gonna look more comfortable now. They're talent

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Speaker 4: around them. When they play the better team. I think

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Speaker 4: they play the Chiefs next week. He's gonna get overwhelmed

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Speaker 4: at times. Look at Sean's quotes. He had a quote

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Speaker 4: last week.

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Speaker 2: Like I feel great about it. We're unfazed.

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Speaker 4: That to me speaks to when you get these veteran

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Speaker 4: head coaches, like what's Eberflu's gonna be able to say?

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Speaker 4: You know, I can lean on my seven playoff appearances,

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Speaker 4: like he can't say any of that. And that's where

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Speaker 4: Sean everyone, we're gonna be okay, even though, like what

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Speaker 4: do you think best case is for them this year?

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Speaker 4: Seven eight wins?

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Speaker 1: That's best case? Listen, I thought they would people said

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Speaker 1: they were five to five and a half. I thought

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Speaker 1: they would get eight. They don't have a consistent pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Bo is still young. They're in a tough division. The

547
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Speaker 1: charters and the Chiefs are really good, so you know,

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Speaker 1: their schedule is pretty damn formidable. I think if they

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Speaker 1: I think, if you get to seven, and you yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you get to seven. Because I thought they were

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Speaker 1: one of the better over teams. I've always said, I

552
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Speaker 1: think they're receivers. I think they have more talent on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. But I think they have more talent on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. I thought there did a running back make

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Speaker 1: a hell of a run today around the corner. He

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Speaker 1: did a I forget the name of the player, sorry

557
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Speaker 1: about that. I just think Denver's got a little more

558
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Speaker 1: juice offensively than people give him credit for. But I

559
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Speaker 1: just like and Bo had some bad throws. He had

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Speaker 1: a really he missed on a couple, But I just

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Speaker 1: I like what I see. First of all, he's older,

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Speaker 1: he's married, sixty one, starts the offensive coach pretty damn

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Speaker 1: good receivers and backs this. I think he's got an

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Speaker 1: advantage that the market isn't recognizing. Between the college starts,

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Speaker 1: the maturity body had five coordinators in five years in

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Speaker 1: college this kid's seen everything. I just now he may

567
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Speaker 1: be really close to his ceiling. John like, this may be,

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Speaker 1: you know, he may be seventy percent of the ceiling.

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Speaker 1: But I see an athletic guy who's accurate, coachable, gets

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Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly. If they can improve their

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Speaker 1: offensive line, I think you can.

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Speaker 2: You can.

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Speaker 1: This is a wild card team potentially over the next

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Speaker 1: few years. We should do an award every week for

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Week. So Green Bay tags Tennessee thirty

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Speaker 1: to fourteen, crosses them. Matt Lafleur on scripted stuff. Now,

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Speaker 1: you and I know first couples, first quarters, scripted, Green

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Speaker 1: Bay gets seventeen points quickly. That's scripted for Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: Malite the one hundred ninety passing, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: eight rushing. The kid goes thirteen for nineteen a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: no pick, seven different targets. This is a young team.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he can rely on a veteran third

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Speaker 1: down receiver or he's got a Devonte Adams. These are

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Speaker 1: all kids. These are twenty three year old receivers. For

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Speaker 1: them to take Malik Willis, I'm watching today and I'm

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Speaker 1: like they had almost four hundred yards offense and on

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Speaker 1: the scripted stuff early. That's what really worries me about Chicago.

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Speaker 1: They're horrible. They're terrible on their first three serdemic. It's like,

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Speaker 1: that's the scripted stuff Green Bay. I mean, I'm Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 1: You know, for years and years it was always understood

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Speaker 1: that Aaron and him kind of almost shared offensive duties.

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Speaker 1: Like Aaron's gonna do some of his own stuff, and

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Speaker 1: he'd earned that. I'm good with that. What he's done

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Speaker 1: with Malik Willis. I mean, I'll say this one year ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, good God, Tennessee got rid of I mean,

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Speaker 1: they bailed on him. I mean, you almost always just

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Speaker 1: keep a guy, make him a backup. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: want to give him a shot to start. They thought

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Speaker 1: will lev Us wasn't upgrade. Matt Leffleur is a great

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Speaker 1: football coach. That's my take.

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Speaker 4: They traded him to a team that they were playing

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Speaker 4: three weeks later. I mean that you just never know, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you traded in a team that you

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Speaker 4: might have to see and they probably never even thought

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Speaker 4: twice about it, and within two if you would have

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Speaker 4: told me two weeks ago that Malik Willis looks like

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Speaker 4: everything we thought Anthony Richardson was going to look like.

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Speaker 4: That's the crazy part. I mean today he's running around.

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Speaker 4: He's obviously been much more accurate than I think anyone anticipated.

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Speaker 4: Give him the game ball last week he gives it

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Speaker 4: to the entire team. It really is people, you know,

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Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel is a media favorite, like he's got Schrager

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Speaker 4: loves them, and some of the guys love him, and

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Speaker 4: I get it. He's a nice guy. Might be the

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Speaker 4: most overrated coach in the NFL. I mean that, look

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Speaker 4: he's got is gonna wear thin when he goes five

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Speaker 4: and twelve. But Lafleur does not get discussed nearly as much.

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Speaker 4: And part of that, like you said, get a little

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Speaker 4: overwhelmed by Aaron Rodgers gone now for a while, and

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Speaker 4: he had Jordan Love through thirty three touchdowns. Jordan Love

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Speaker 4: gets hurt on a night game halfway across the world,

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Speaker 4: comes back and wins two games with a guy that

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Speaker 4: no other team probably would have traded for, and pretty convincingly.

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Speaker 4: I mean today they beat the shit out of him

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Speaker 4: on the road. It's one thing, okay at home playing

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Speaker 4: a bad then you go on the road and win

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Speaker 4: a game, went with a team that knows this player

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Speaker 4: like all the defensive players. Who do you think they

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Speaker 4: had been seeing for three years as a scout team quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And that thing was of all the games to day

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Speaker 4: and that thing truly was not close.

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Speaker 2: It was over fast.

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Speaker 4: And I think Lafloor, I don't want to just throw

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Speaker 4: out the elite status, cause you got to win in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. And he did last year though, and he's

636
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Speaker 4: gonna beat the night Like I think Lafloor's easily one

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Speaker 4: of the best young coach. I mean the way McVeigh, Kyle,

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, we got to include Lafloor, and we gotta

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Speaker 4: kick Mike out for right now. He hasn't won an

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Speaker 4: important game ever.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Danny Parkins has gone from the most talented

642
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Speaker 1: young sports talk radio show host in the country to

643
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Speaker 1: one of the co hosts on Breakfast Ball in FS one.

644
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Speaker 1: An interesting guy who's got a lot of different thoughts

645
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Speaker 1: and a lot of different things, and so I'm gonna

646
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Speaker 1: try to bring him on regular to hear on the volume.

647
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Speaker 1: So obviously when I bring you on, there's Chicago stories,

648
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Speaker 1: and there's you have real keen insight to Chicago, and

649
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Speaker 1: it's interesting because I think Caleb Williams is one of

650
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the most talented quarterbacks I've ever seen in college. I

651
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: think there's an l way, a little Andrew Luck. He's

652
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen. He's not consistently accurate out of college.

653
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Speaker 1: You have to work on that. With Josh Allen. Aaron

654
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: Rodgers was very accurate in college. Certain guys are that's

655
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Speaker 1: not what he is.

656
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Speaker 2: He is.

657
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Speaker 1: You got a sandpaper him. And when I talk about

658
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: the Bears dysfunction, you and I get it, you especially.

659
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: You tend to think of Detroit, Loserville, in Cleveland. But

660
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: because Chicago did have one of the great teams ever,

661
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: and because they had Michael Jordan and we've had Oprah

662
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: and Siskel and Ebert, and it's a big city and

663
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Speaker 1: everybody loves it, you tend to think, oh, the Bears

664
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Speaker 1: are well funded, the facilities are this, that's the outside.

665
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Speaker 1: But take the audience to the mccaskeys. The dysfunction of

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Speaker 1: this organization since you've been a kid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they got an indoor practice facility with

668
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Speaker 5: a roof that was high enough where you could hunt

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Speaker 5: a football within the last decade, like it's every other

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Speaker 5: team in the league had it. So multiple practice facilities,

671
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: like John Fox, to his credit, did kind of bring

672
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Speaker 5: them forward him and Ryan Pace of like, hey, we

673
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: need to upgrade these things. But like that's twenty seventeen

674
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Speaker 5: we're talking about here. So just in terms of the

675
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Speaker 5: investment the practice facilities, the old thing on the mc

676
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 5: caskey's back with the eighty five Bears was that they

677
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: would throw around, you know, nickels like manhole covers, like

678
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: it is a historically cheap organization. They are owners that

679
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: inherited it, right, it's a charter heritage franchise. But so

680
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: their wealth is the Bears, right, They're not an oil tycoon.

681
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: They're not real estate magnets. Their wealth is in this

682
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Speaker 5: valuation of a football team that they don't have hundreds

683
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Speaker 5: and hundreds of millions of dollars just sitting in cash

684
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Speaker 5: from some other business. They're not the Walmart people. And

685
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Speaker 5: so it's a big family. It's a dysfunctional family. It's

686
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 5: been passed down. There's like nine siblings. Some of them

687
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: have no interest in football whatsoever and want to get

688
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: out and want to cash in and liquidate. George McCaskey,

689
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Speaker 5: who's kind of the face of it now is self

690
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Speaker 5: admittedly just a fan. He's like, I know nothing about football.

691
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: It's like, George, you've been doing this forever, Like either

692
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: learn something about football or stop saying or stop saying

693
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Speaker 5: that you don't know any think about football, because then

694
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Speaker 5: you're like in the meetings hiring all these people. So

695
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: there's been there's countless examples of the historic dysfunction and

696
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Speaker 5: the cheapness with the Bears. I do think it's gotten

697
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Speaker 5: a lot better in the last five to ten years,

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Speaker 5: and the money has gotten so crazy with the national

699
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Speaker 5: television contracts that it's it's harder to be cheap. There

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Speaker 5: are some ways still, like they were not going to

701
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Speaker 5: hire Jim Harbaugh. That was never going to happen. They

702
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Speaker 5: were they were not going to give someone twenty million

703
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Speaker 5: dollars a year, fifteen million dollars a year with that

704
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Speaker 5: type of go and celebrity.

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Speaker 2: They were just not prepared to do it.

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Speaker 5: And that is a huge bummer because he wanted to

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Speaker 5: be the Bears coach, or he was at least very

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Speaker 5: intrigued by being the Bears coach for the last like

709
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Speaker 5: two hiring cycles.

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Speaker 2: So it holds them back in some ways. For sure.

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Speaker 5: Ryan Poles I think is really smart and I think

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Speaker 5: he's been a very good hire overall. I would not

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Speaker 5: have kept Matt Eberflus. I think that was a mistake

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Speaker 5: when they got the number one draft pick with Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 5: I would have lined up Caleb Williams with the best

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Speaker 5: offensive head coach you could get. Yeah, because my thing

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Speaker 5: was like, by definition, you are limiting your talent pool,

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Speaker 5: Like you're only able to hire coordinators for Caleb, who

719
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Speaker 5: then could leave to go be head coaches somewhere else

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Speaker 5: Whereas if you fire Matt Eberflus, I think Ben Johnson

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Speaker 5: leaves Detroit like that would have.

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Speaker 2: Been pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Like if you don't get Harbaugh Ben Johnson, he leaves

724
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Speaker 5: your division rival and he comes and coaches Caleb, that's

725
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 5: a pretty good spot to be in. So I thought

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Speaker 5: keeping Eberflus was a mistake. And where there. What I'm

727
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Speaker 5: afraid of right now is not Caleb Williams. I think

728
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Speaker 5: his talent is so undeniable that he actually will be

729
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Speaker 5: able to overcome some of the stink of the Bears.

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Speaker 5: We've seen that before, like Josh Allen to use your example.

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Speaker 5: He's had a defensive head coach and Sean McDermott. He's

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Speaker 5: had one guy who is maybe a borderline top five

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Speaker 5: receiver in Stefan Diggs. Other than that, not much in

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Speaker 5: terms of elite playmakers.

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Speaker 1: Just got a run game, just got one this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it is what I mean.

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Speaker 5: He had Dable and Dorsey and now he's got Brady.

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Speaker 5: So he's had three different play callers, defensive head coach,

739
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Speaker 5: terrible drafters. Took him a couple of years, but the

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Speaker 5: talent was undeniable that he got there. So the Chargers

741
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 5: have changed over a bunch with Justin Herbert, bad coaches,

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Speaker 5: different play callers. He hasn't won big, but as a

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Speaker 5: talent has overcome it. So I think Caleb is going

744
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Speaker 5: to be fine. What I am worried about, though, is

745
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 5: when it was John Fox with Mitch Trubisky. Everyone knew

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Speaker 5: that Fox was not going to be the guy for

747
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 5: Mitch long term, but they didn't want to fire him

748
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 5: a year early and pay him to go away. So

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Speaker 5: it was John Fox and Dow Loggins for a year

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Speaker 5: in Mitch Trubisky. Then they fired the whole staff and

751
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Speaker 5: hired Matt Naggy. So now it's two systems in two years.

752
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Speaker 5: And that put Mitch Trubisky behind the eight ball. And

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Speaker 5: then they did the exact same thing with Justin Fields.

754
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Speaker 5: He was there for one year of Matt Naggy and

755
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Speaker 5: then they fired him and they moved on to the

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Speaker 5: next guy. And so that Justin Fields had two systems

757
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: in two years, two different went from Matt Naggy to

758
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Speaker 5: Luke Getzi. So now you're learning two different offenses, two

759
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 5: different play callers, two different sets of ideas and fundamentals.

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Speaker 5: And so if this doesn't work and you end up

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Speaker 5: firing Eberflus and Shane Waldron, it will be the exact

762
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Speaker 5: same thing that you did to your last two first

763
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Speaker 5: round pick quarterbacks, and that just I don't care who

764
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: it is, it stunts your development to not have continuity

765
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Speaker 5: of coaching. So I'm not worried about the talent. I

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00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: am absolutely worried about the coaching around him. And the

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Speaker 5: line is clearly regressing and even worse than it was

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Speaker 5: supposed to be. But I think a lot of that

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Speaker 5: is also Shane Waldron because and I'm giving you a

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Speaker 5: long answer, but you wanted all of the context yeah,

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Speaker 5: they were the second ranked rushing team in the NFL

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Speaker 5: last year. It's the four of the five offensive linemen

773
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 5: are the exact same and in theory they upgraded at center,

774
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Speaker 5: though it looks like they maybe somehow downgraded and Ryan

775
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: Bates has been hurt. But that's not all justin fields.

776
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: Like Huil Herbert was a five yard per carry guy. So,

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Speaker 5: like I would have told you coming into the year,

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Speaker 5: Kevin Jenkins their left guard, Nate Davis their right guard

779
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Speaker 5: when he plays, and Darnell Wright their right tackle, who

780
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Speaker 5: was the tenth overall pick. All better run blockers than

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Speaker 5: pass blockers, and they're the worst running team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's no question the O line has significantly regressed.

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Speaker 1: And most of those guys were young, ascending players, right.

784
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Speaker 5: And so to me, I don't believe that these guys

785
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 5: just forgot how to run block. I think that there's

786
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Speaker 5: something in and I can't I'm not able to tell

787
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Speaker 5: you what it is, but I think Shane Waldron clearly

788
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 5: is not doing a good job. Another example, week one,

789
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Speaker 5: Gerald Everett out snapped Cole Kment.

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Speaker 2: That makes no sense.

791
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 5: It makes sense, It makes no Cole Commett top ten

792
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 5: tight end in the NFL for sure, young athletic, good blocker,

793
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 5: good pass catcher, coming off the best season of his career,

794
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 5: homegrown kid under contract in his athletic prime. That made

795
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: no sense, and they corrected it in week two, in

796
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: Week three and week three at a Monster game. But

797
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: it's like, how do I know more about the personnel

798
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: of the Bears than Shane Waldron does? And I get

799
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 5: that there's a learning curve, but come on, man, you're

800
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Speaker 5: a professional coach making seven figures. So I think Shane

801
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: Waldron's been a disaster through three weeks, and I hope

802
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Speaker 5: that he can correct it.

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Speaker 1: I don't talk Cowboys as much, mostly because let's not

804
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, and I'm not. It does doesn't interest me.

805
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: But it is interesting that the Lakers and the Cowboys

806
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: have become sort of the same business where the brand

807
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: is way better than the product, and that they're basically

808
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: a family business. I mean, the Lakers are run by

809
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Kobe's agent, and I know Kurt Rambis and like him,

810
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: but the Rambas family is involved. It is a lot

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Speaker 1: of it's a lot of people close to the Bus family,

812
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: and that's the same thing. It's Charlotte Jones it's Stephen Jones,

813
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: it's Jerry Jones. There's not a lot of outside influence,

814
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: but they're they're remarkable brands. I don't think the Lakers are.

815
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Speaker 1: I think Anthony Davis is just fantastic. I thought last

816
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: year he was easily the best defensive player in the league.

817
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: And you know, Rudy Gobert whatever. But I don't think

818
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: they're a championship team. They just don't have They're not close.

819
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: These teams like Boston have like eight really good players,

820
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: seven are the good players. But I look at the

821
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys and it's this is what I'm about to say,

822
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: is really insane. Oh good that the if you really

823
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, the Cowboys have not won multiple

824
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: playoff games in any year in twenty nine years.

825
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Just think of that. That's not a big ask at

827
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Speaker 1: the NFC. The last four they've had good quarterback play.

828
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: Romo and Dak are b plus to a minus quarterback.

829
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 1: They're a very good quarterback play, and the Kirk Cousins mode.

830
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: They've had offensive coaches who are more than competent. I mean,

831
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Speaker 1: I've had some offensive coaches, and I'm always fascinated by

832
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: really successful people. Jerry Jones that have a blind spot

833
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: that is so obvious. The radio hits the fact that

834
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Speaker 1: he wants to be called GM and I'm like, Jerry,

835
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: you're this oil maverick. You're a brilliant businessman. He and

836
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Stan Kronk are two of the smartest guys in the league.

837
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Other owners lean on Jerry. Does he not get how disfunctional?

838
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean they really they always the NFL in retaining

839
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: their own draft picks, And so is it ego? Is

840
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: it a blind spot Jerry's vanity and personality. I'm fascinated

841
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: when I see, like Elon Musk similarly, does he not

842
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: see what he is? Well sociopathic?

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00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 5: You've probably met a lot more billionaires than I have,

845
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of normal ones. It's not it's

846
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 5: not a you get into this like stratosphere of ego entitlement,

847
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 5: you literally own the building. It's just, you know, it's

848
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 5: it's just it has to warp your sense of reality

849
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 5: and things that make sense. But I do think that

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00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: the media sometimes gets it wrong with with Jerry. And

851
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's crazy like a fox or that

852
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 5: like everything is calculated, but.

853
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: He likes it chaos is his fuel. He does not.

854
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 5: Believe that us talking about Ceedee Lamb's contract and Dak

855
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 5: Prescott's contract and Mike McCarthy's contract and his radio appearances

856
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 5: and weird things that he says. He does not believe

857
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: that that has any impact on wins and losses. He

858
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 5: doesn't and in fact, he probably thinks that it has

859
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: an absolute impact on the ratings that they get on

860
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 5: Sunday Night Football and at four twenty five on Sunday

861
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: on Fox. And he very well might be right, because

862
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 5: they are Everyone cares about him. You might hate him,

863
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 5: you might love him, but the numbers bear out people

864
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: care about him. So I think that he is feeding

865
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: the sports take industrial complex because it's oxygen for him.

866
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 5: He wants to be relevant, he wants to be talked about.

867
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 5: It's clearly an ego play, but also it programs a

868
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 5: lot of airtime and that has to be good for business.

869
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: I guarantee he subscribes to the all publicity is good

870
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: publicity mantra. We're talking about him and that's making him money,

871
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 5: either directly or indirectly. So that's what And by the way,

872
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 5: I also think, and I said this on the first

873
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 5: week of breakfast Ball because we were on before the

874
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 5: season started. I was like, these contracts all get done,

875
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 5: no one holds out anymore? Like they not really, Yeah,

876
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor for a game, Melvin Gordon for four games,

877
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: Chris Jones for a game, like host Levy on Bell.

878
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: No one actually holds out. You're like, Oh, they should

879
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 5: have signed Dak Prescott early. Dak didn't want to sign early.

880
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 5: Dak wanted to go to sign first. He wanted Jordan

881
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 5: Love to sign first because that just gave him more money.

882
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 5: Me Ceedee Lamb wanted aj Brown to sign first. He

883
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 5: wanted Devonte Smith to sign first. He wanted Justin Jefferson

884
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: to sign first, because they know that they have the

885
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 5: Cowboys over a barrel, because Dak had a no tag

886
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 5: clause and a no trade clause and Ceedee Lamb got

887
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty targets last year. If Ceedee Lamb

888
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 5: isn't on the Cowboys, they would go from the highest

889
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: scoring team in the league to awful. He matters more

890
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: to Dallas than any non quarterback, matters to their offense,

891
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: more than Christian McCaffrey, more than Tyreek Hill. Like I

892
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 5: just I think chaos is part of the formula to

893
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: the popularity in Dallas, and I think it's all by design.

894
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: So I played a game today with Jamak on the

895
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: air and we were talking about Deshaun Watson, and I said,

896
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has is considered a star. But if you

897
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: had a minute thirty left in a game, one time

898
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: out and had to go seventy yards doable same players,

899
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: would you take Gardner Minshew or Deshaun Watson to be

900
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: your quarterback? And I said I'd take Gardner Minshew because

901
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: he moves about as well as Deshaun. He plays with

902
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: more confidence, and I think he's more accurate. And he's like, no,

903
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And so we got into talking about this

904
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: and I said, Jaden Daniels or Trevor Lawrence. And I said,

905
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: here's what I know about Jaden Daniels. He moves better

906
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: than Trevor. He appears to be more accurate than Trevor.

907
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: And I like, I love Trevor Lawrence, but I have

908
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: seen him now that Buffalo game, which was at least

909
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: the first half a standalone game. Dude, he missed the

910
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: crossing route that is a any college quarterback can make

911
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: it effortlessly. He missed a pass in the flat that

912
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: he was low and behind him, and I said he's

913
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: too loose. I said, he looks like a quarterback. But

914
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: if you said, hey, you want to go golf Friday

915
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: afternoon or watch more film, he choose golf. He's too

916
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: talented to be that loose and bad on the layups.

917
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: It's not mechanical because he was great in high school,

918
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: he was great in college, and he was he's shown signs. Yes,

919
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: you put Trevor Lawrence down there right now, minute thirty

920
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: in a game, I would take Kirk Cousins over him.

921
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: I think i'd take Gardner Minshew over I'm not joking

922
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence.

923
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 5: No, I think that it is totally fair. I do

924
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: think that you can lose your mechanics. He brought up clear,

925
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 5: he brought up you brought up golf right like golfers. Yeah, yeah,

926
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 5: any any golfer will tell you that you can lose

927
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 5: your mechanics, you can lose your swing. So I do

928
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 5: think it is in play that Trevor Lawrence is I mean, hell,

929
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 5: Mahomes said it this week that he doesn't think that

930
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: he his mechanics are completely locked in that he's relying

931
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: too much on his arm and he's not seat right

932
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: now with his feet and his footwork. So I do

933
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 5: think that when you have an arm like Trevor Lawrence,

934
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 5: which is a top ten arm in the NFL, it

935
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 5: makes it possible that you you lose your fundamentals a

936
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 5: little bit more. And so I don't think they're gonna

937
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: bench him like Thug Peterson was like anything's on the table, Like,

938
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 5: I don't think it is, Like I don't think you're

939
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 5: benching a two hundred and fifty million dollar quarterback. But

940
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 5: I do think that you need to be working on

941
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 5: footwork fundamentals and breaking him down a little bit. Deshaun

942
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 5: Watson in Week one looked like he forgot how to

943
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: play football.

944
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: We charted it.

945
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: He had six passes that landed out of bounce, like

946
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 5: they're just like straight not catchable balls. And then that's

947
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: not including airmailing guys throwing it at their feet, hurtling up.

948
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: So I think he's regressed. I mean, he's been a

949
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: little bit better since, but he's regressed terribly. Trevor Lawrence

950
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 5: has regressed terribly, and Minshew, it's just funny you bring

951
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 5: him up. What I've always said about him is like

952
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 5: he's gonna go down swinging, like he's a fun quarterback

953
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: to watch, yes, oh, and like but like delusional confidence,

954
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 5: like he will he believes he can make every throw. Uh.

955
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 5: It's like Mario Chalmers when he was on the heat

956
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 5: and he had teammates that were Lebron, Bosh and Wade,

957
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: and he was like, why don't you ever drop up

958
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 5: the final play for me? And it's like, it's like

959
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: I had a pretty big shot at Kansas in the

960
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 5: final four. It's like, yeah, buddy, but that's Dwayne Wade,

961
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like your Gardner Minshew, why

962
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 5: do you think you can make that throw? Uh? But

963
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: like one out of two or three times he can

964
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 5: make it, and so he does it. So he's a

965
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 5: fun guy to watch. But I will say too, man,

966
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: it's hard. Quarterback play in the NFL is very clearly hard.

967
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 5: It's hard to project, it's hard to pay, it's hard

968
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 5: to be consent and in and so that's also why

969
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 5: and this isn't what you asked about, but I'm gonna

970
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 5: say it anyway. Everyone being surprised by Josh Allen. It

971
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 5: bothers me. He is clearly the second best quarterback in football,

972
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 5: and he has been for a couple of years now. Yeah, yards, touchdowns, wins.

973
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 5: Since twenty twenty, he's second in wins, He's second in yards,

974
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 5: and he's first in touchdowns.

975
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: All the Mahomes, you look at their numbers. Now, it's

976
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: regular season.

977
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: Mahomes obviously has him in the postseason undeniable, but yards, touchdowns, wins,

978
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 5: he's two to two and one in terms of ranks

979
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 5: since twenty twenty. And he doesn't have Andy Reid, he

980
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 5: didn't have Tyreek Hill, he didn't have Travis Kelcey.

981
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: He is a remarkable football player.

982
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 5: And so be like, I'm so surprised that Josh Allen

983
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: is doing this this year. Why because he lost Gabe

984
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: Davis and Stefan Diggs, who like wit the last seven

985
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 5: games of last season.

986
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Like it's just we need to do a better job.

987
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: I think of, like, oh, you're not Mahomes, so we

988
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: can like pick you apart and criticize you. I'm not

989
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 5: saying no criticism is fair. Mahomes has thrown three terrible

990
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: interceptions this year for total, Like, obviously anybody can be criticized,

991
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: but like, if you've got a problem with Josh Allen

992
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 5: at quarterback. Then the only guy you're allowed to like

993
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 5: is Mahomes.

994
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: He's the only one.

995
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: It's a really hard position to be consistently great at.

996
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: All. Right time for an utter edition of Sharper Square.

997
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: Chad Millman, CEO Action Network. All of our odds provided

998
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: by DraftKings. All Right, this is an interesting week. So

999
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: I usually feel first cup of weeks, I'm kind of

1000
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: feeling it out. I never used to feel that way,

1001
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: but because nobody plays anybody in preseason, fewer padded practices,

1002
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like the Jets in Week one

1003
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: offensively or awful. Then all of a sudden you watch

1004
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: them and you're like, wow, they lead the NFL in

1005
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: third down percentage. Like stuff happens fast because either Sean McVay,

1006
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: fewer padded practices. I'm not going to play any starters,

1007
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: but I do feel like I have. I kind of

1008
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: feel like I have. I got my feet beneath me

1009
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: on the league. But this is an instructive moment, and

1010
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I want to start with this because

1011
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: I part of why I like doing Sharper Square. I

1012
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: like teaching myself stuff and the audience. So I really

1013
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: liked the Jets early in the week at minus six

1014
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: and a half. I think it's a bad spot for

1015
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback traveling going back, I get a veteran

1016
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: extra rest. This is a bad spot for bow Nicks.

1017
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: I thought Tampa I picked them in that week it

1018
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: was a good spot. And with rookie quarterbacks, it's a

1019
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: lot of where you land and how the schedule looks.

1020
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: Same with rookie coaches. New England on a Thursday night,

1021
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: bad spot off an overtime game. So I liked the

1022
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Jets a lot. And now it's seven and a half.

1023
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: And I don't bet teams. I bet numbers in this league.

1024
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: So now I like Denver and just because of a

1025
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: point swing. So just as a point of instruction, how

1026
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: do the wise guys view that game?

1027
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: Well, they're going to bet Denver at seven and a half,

1028
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 6: and that's sort of what they've been waiting for. What

1029
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 6: you're doing, naturally, because you've been watching football and thinking

1030
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 6: about this for a long time, is looking at the

1031
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: number seven. It's a key number, right, and the key

1032
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 6: numbers mean that's the number, that's the delta between the

1033
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 6: two scores. That a lot of games land on in

1034
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 6: the NFL seven four three two with the extra point

1035
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 6: changes the past couple of years, those are now the

1036
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 6: key num and those are the ones that wise guys

1037
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 6: want to get on the right side of. So you

1038
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 6: liked New York at six and a half because it

1039
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 6: was on the right side of that key number of seven.

1040
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 6: You like Denver on the seven and a half because

1041
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 6: now you're on the right side of seven for Denver.

1042
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 6: So that is the delta, by the way, and that

1043
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 6: is the very very thin line between success and failure.

1044
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 6: We're talking about half a point in your logic, but

1045
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: that is the difference between winning and losing in so

1046
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 6: many of these games.

1047
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: So another point. I'm going to reflect on this because

1048
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: this week I don't have as strong as a conviction

1049
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: on games. But I'm fascinated by why a number is

1050
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: so about. Once a week there is a number I

1051
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: don't understand. Last week it was Seattle in Miami. I

1052
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: had a winning week. I didn't get the number Skyler

1053
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Thompson against Mike McDonald's defense. That felt like a blowout

1054
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: to me. It's a hard place to play for TUA.

1055
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: Miami doesn't play well West or North usually They're just

1056
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: a different team. So the Steelers minus one and a

1057
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: half going to be four to zero, best defense arguably

1058
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: in the league against a quarterback who is in a

1059
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: t bow level forty nine percent completion percentage. I talked

1060
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: to one executive this week. He said his tapes as

1061
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: bad as a thrower as anybody he remembers. So I

1062
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: look at it and I think that number doesn't make sense.

1063
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: It should be Steelers minus two to two and a

1064
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: half to three. I would take Pittsburgh, but the market's

1065
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: confusing me. Explain the line.

1066
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 6: The market is confusing you because the Steelers are undefeated.

1067
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 6: They opened as two point favorites, and the line has

1068
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 6: moved in the direction of the Indianapolis cults. And what's more,

1069
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 6: what you can see in a lot of places, and

1070
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 6: most operators offer those DraftKings does as well. You can

1071
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 6: usually see the betting tickets and the betting money tickets

1072
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 6: means that the squares are coming in on a side.

1073
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 6: Money means that the professionals are coming in. And aside,

1074
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 6: the delta on this game is squares on the Steelers,

1075
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 6: money on the professionals. The line usually moves, I mean

1076
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 6: money on the Colts professionals on the Colts. The line

1077
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 6: usually moves in the direction of the money. That tells

1078
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 6: you that what the professionals are doing. The reason that's

1079
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 6: happening in this game is because a Mike Tomlin is

1080
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 6: historically great as a road underdog and historically bad as

1081
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 6: a road favorite. They are also not believing in Justin

1082
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 6: fields right now. They love the Steelers defense. They know

1083
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 6: if the Steelers get up that TJ. Watt is going

1084
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 6: to slam the door closed, and that's when he's amazing.

1085
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 6: But it's not like they're dominating teams. And if you

1086
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 6: even look at that Chargers game, it's ten to ten

1087
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 6: with a one legged Justin Herbert and it doesn't become

1088
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 6: a Steelers win until Justin Herbert is out of the game.

1089
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 6: Now they're going on the road in a game that

1090
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 6: should probably be pick based on the talent levels, and

1091
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 6: the strength of the Colts is not going to be

1092
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson throwing or trying to evade TJ.

1093
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: Watt.

1094
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 6: It's going to be what this offensive line, which is

1095
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 6: one of the top rated run blocking and top rated

1096
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 6: pass blocking lines in the league, can do to get

1097
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor free in the open field. So that's why

1098
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 6: the wise guys like this matchup. They're getting a home

1099
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 6: underdog and an overvalued favorite.

1100
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into my picks this line. Initially I

1101
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: felt like Chicago was to play. It's now up to

1102
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: plus three. It's a coach quarterback league. It wasn't. The

1103
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: Rams won this game basically on special teams. But now

1104
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: they have both their tackles back. The interior offensive line

1105
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: is now played together for three games, so have these receivers.

1106
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: So the Niners were missing elements. But I don't try

1107
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: Steeber Flues or Shane Waldron. I'm not giving up a

1108
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: field goal to just a winning culture, the one that's

1109
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: trying to find their way. Bears are getting better. But

1110
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: I'll play the number Rams plus three Sharper square.

1111
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, at three, it's sort of in the middle. We

1112
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 6: just talked about key numbers. If this game gets up

1113
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 6: to three and a half, the wise guys will play

1114
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 6: the Rams. But it opened at one, and the wise

1115
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 6: guys played the one, the one and a half, the two,

1116
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 6: the two and a half, and now it's at three.

1117
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 6: And their logic here is very much by low Sell

1118
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 6: high right, you just talked about last week. With four

1119
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 6: minutes and fifty seven seconds left in that game against

1120
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 6: the Niners, the Rams had a five percent chance to

1121
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 6: win that game. They needed every single thing to go

1122
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: right in that game, and it did. The Niners could

1123
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 6: not advance the ball deeper into the Rams side of

1124
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 6: the field. They missed a fifty five yard field goals

1125
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 6: scored in three straight plays. The play the next series,

1126
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 6: the forty nine Ers can't advance the ball, They punt.

1127
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 6: The Rams get a great punt return, They get three

1128
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 6: penalties on one play, including a twenty eight yard pass interference.

1129
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 6: They win the game. The Bears, meanwhile, couldn't have played worse.

1130
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams was confusing Colts defenders for Bears receivers. They

1131
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 6: were truly terrible. They had no running game. Right twenty

1132
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 6: five seconds left in the third quarter, they're still down

1133
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 6: seven to three. When the Colts score a touchdown to

1134
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 6: go fourteen to three, five minutes left in that game,

1135
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 6: they're still down fourteen to nine. They had a chance

1136
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 6: to keep winning that game. Their pass rush is elite,

1137
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 6: their defense is getting better and better. You have to

1138
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 6: assume in this game that the Bears are not as

1139
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 6: bad as they were which is what the wise guys think,

1140
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 6: and the Rams cannot replicate that kind of luck no

1141
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 6: matter who's back on the field. All that said, your

1142
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 6: about Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford versus Ebra Flus and

1143
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is the one reason I've talked about this

1144
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 6: game all week. It is the one reason why I

1145
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 6: have heard wise guys saying I'm kind of hesitating. Those

1146
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 6: who are in are in, but those who are hesitating

1147
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 6: or hesitating because of that exact reason.

1148
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to take the Packers minus two

1149
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: and a half at home against the Vikings. The Vikings

1150
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: are playing really well, but they've always been a little

1151
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: better at home than on the road. Also, green Bay

1152
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: is winning without Jordan Love. The team is gaining confidence.

1153
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is a massive step up. I also think

1154
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: Green Bay this year, for the first time in recent memory,

1155
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: is kind of a ball hawking defense that's creating turnovers.

1156
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold historically will give you opportunities. So at minus

1157
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: two and a half, green Bay at home, I don't

1158
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: think people quite understand the coaching job. Winning with Malik

1159
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: Willis and looking good with Malik Willis, these aren't Luke Wins,

1160
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: I would swallow the two and a half take Green

1161
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: Bay sharper square.

1162
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a really tricky one because there is

1163
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 6: just universal split on this one. Wow, it went to two,

1164
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 6: It was at two, it got up to two and

1165
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 6: a half, it got up to three. The wise guys

1166
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 6: took the three bet it down to two and a half.

1167
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 6: You'll see it bouncing around back and forth. Everybody has

1168
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 6: an opinion on this game, and they are very strongly

1169
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 6: on Minnesota, very strongly on Green Bay. I can't give

1170
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 6: you a definitive answer. You could be right. Wise guys

1171
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 6: could be right. What's interesting in this game?

1172
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

1173
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 6: Matt Lafleur has been a genius in this scenario, and

1174
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 6: you have to credit what he has done with Milik Willis.

1175
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 6: You also have to credit Kevin O'Connell what he has

1176
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 6: done with Sam Donold to make him look like an

1177
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 6: MVP worthy quarterback to get his team undefeated. You have

1178
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 6: to credit Brian Flores, whose team is number one defensively

1179
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 6: in Dboa and make Brock Purdy and CJ. Shroud look

1180
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 6: mediocre to bad in two upsets for this team against

1181
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 6: quarterbacks who are really good against the blitz. Then there's

1182
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 6: one stat that keeps sticking in my craw teams that

1183
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 6: are short home favorites in divisional games against the spread

1184
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 6: since twenty sixteen. So I am completely torn on this game.

1185
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 6: I lean Minnesota. I'm hoping it gets back to three.

1186
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: I like Seattle plus three and a half at the Lions.

1187
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: Lions are missing their top center, Byron Murphy, the really

1188
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: really good defensive tackle number one pick for the Seahawks,

1189
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: has elevated a defensive front. I think one of the

1190
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: things about Seattle. I think they're one of the best

1191
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: coach teams in the league right now. On the defensive side.

1192
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't quite feel like they finally figured out their

1193
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: offense last week with Detroit. Thirty five carries Montgomery and Gibbs,

1194
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: but you're not going to run like that on Seattle.

1195
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: See Adele has big playmakers. Detroit's Ohwa was susceptible if

1196
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: you can block Hudgson. Detroit's olways susceptible. The big plays.

1197
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: Three and a half's too big of a number. Gino

1198
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: complete seventy four percent of his throats. This is a

1199
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: highly competent offense efficient component and occasionally explosive. I don't

1200
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: trust the Lions here, Sharper square.

1201
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, whyse guys still like the Seahawks here. If you

1202
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 6: can get the hook, that's what they're planning. The line

1203
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 6: has moved in their direction, even though it's Detroit at

1204
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 6: home inside when they are historically great against the spread.

1205
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 6: It went from four and a half down to four.

1206
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 6: Now it's at three and a half. All the things

1207
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 6: you said, there is some sort of hesitation because who

1208
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 6: of the Seahawks really beaten right?

1209
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 5: Right?

1210
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 6: Like they beat up Skyler Thompson and Tim Boyle, they

1211
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 6: beat up Jacoby Brissett, and by the way, the pass

1212
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 6: played tough in that game, and if you look at

1213
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 6: the spread, it was a push. They beat up bo

1214
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 6: Nicks in his first game, and by the way, the

1215
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 6: Broncos came back at the end of that game and

1216
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 6: it was a push. So I'm not fully bought in

1217
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 6: on the Seahawks. They have been one of those teams

1218
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 6: professional betters have lid since before the season began. The

1219
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 6: number play is the Seahawks, but it's not like a

1220
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 6: slam dumb for me.

1221
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: And finally, there are games sometimes I just like to

1222
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: watch Bills getting two and a half the Ravens bills

1223
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: in a short week. I said this, the Ravens are

1224
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: a toe away from just having one really bad loss

1225
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: and crushing Dallas and beating the Chiefs. I like Baltimore.

1226
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: They had to replace a coordinator and some offensive linemen.

1227
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: I think that stuff, especially on the O line, takes time.

1228
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens cover here sharper.

1229
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 6: Square totally sharp wise. Guys are on the Ravens. That's

1230
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 6: the play. It's scary, right you're going to betting against

1231
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, who is wicked right now and is now

1232
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 6: the odds on favorite to win the MVP after what

1233
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 6: he did to the Jags on Monday Night. I mean,

1234
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 6: he was fierce right, his passes were pinpoint. He was

1235
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 6: running through the middle of that Jaguars line. But I

1236
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 6: do think that the value is on Lamar Jackson, who's

1237
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 6: twenty one and seven, as a short favorite or an underdog.

1238
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 6: It's a really good spot for the Ravens. Their defensive

1239
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 6: back line against the rush, they're getting a little bit better.

1240
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 6: I think the big fear is like, what are they

1241
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 6: going to do when Josh Allen is scrambling and improvising.

1242
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 6: They haven't proven to be able to really defend against

1243
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 6: that right now. We saw the Cowboys come back, but

1244
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,959
Speaker 6: Ravens are definitely the right side the volume.

1245
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,240
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1246
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,320
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