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Problem solved Garrison. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: Dies for the en zone, he said, touchdown. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the team. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray that defender is in multiple pieces. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there? 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Rights slamm the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo. 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic. 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: So. I was gonna start with what I would describe 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: as s Gallows humor, something along lines of I missed 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: my first Cardinals game in twenty one years, pre regular 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: season or postseason, and I turned it off at twenty 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: one to six. Was there anything of note that happened afterwards? 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna go there, not gonna do it. Instead, 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna coin a new term and we'll 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: see if you guys like it or not. And I 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: know you'll be honest, Danny surrec Darren Urban, Yes, here 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: we go, ready end blow up? Please? WTF what the 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: football is going on? And I'm not just talking about 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: the Cardinals their last game, but a lot of games 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: this year, a lot of things. I'm talking about college football. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: UCLA up ending Penn State. 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: Oh wow, that was Zach Gershman's not even in the room, 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: but you know he's gonna watch this later. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: I really don't care about you know, whether Zach's in 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: the room, but a much larger and fiercer Aq Shipley 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: if he's in the room. No Penn State jokes, not self, 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: but Danny, I think honestly, when and you know what's 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: gonna happen again, It'll happen again this week in the NFL. 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: There'll be the inexplicable and henceforth and heretofore I'm going with, 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: WTF what the football? And then fill in the blank. 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: That's fair? 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna let you run with it. 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Paul I like it? Yeah, where does that one? 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: Just don't ever forget the football part of it. 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. I just you know, hashtag job 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: security and. 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: Already had You've already done that once this season. 47 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: CC, Fine, that was that was unintentional. Come on. Wolf 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 2: used to have the spank ometer. That was his all right, 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: now you're off the rails. Spank ometer was you know, 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: the physicality in the game. Where does that rank? So 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: on the scale of WTF? What the football? Where does 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: that one rank? Danny Darren who wants to weigh and 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: somebody save me, please please? 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 4: I think I think that's a quality way to look 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: at this season, which every single one of the Cardinals 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: games has gone down to the final possession or basically 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 4: the final possession. There's been a couple of a couple 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: kneel downs, but still it's essentially come out down to 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: the last thirty seconds of everything. Yes, which for somebody 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: who has to write something quickly right when the game ends, 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: that's brutal. 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Do you pre write anything? Do you like write some 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: paragraphs like yeah, yeah, yeah, you do, okay. 64 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: But but that leads to issues sometimes, Like my very 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: initial post after this game gave the Cardinals record at 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: three and two, because I when I was changing everything. 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: I forgot to change that. I had to get that fixed. 68 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: Well, they did have an eighteen point lead at one point. 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: So what was the presidential election? 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: That was? 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: Headline? Got wrong? Dew he defeats truman Berry infamously like 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: a true former newspaperman right there, Darren Danny, do you 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: tell us the sideline? What was the degree of no comprendos, 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: especially at the end of the game. 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: You could feel the frustration. You could feel the frustration 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: throughout the game when mostly the second half, because the 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: first half, starting with the offense, it was a really 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: hot start. They scored on their first two drives, which 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: is not something we've seen from this Cardinals offense. They 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: were passing the ball wide. Receiver Marvin Harrison Junior looked 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: really good off the top. So you're thinking, Okay, some 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: of these tweaks that we had heard from the coaching staff, 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: you're seeing them come to fruition. They are working for 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: the offense to come out in the second half and 86 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: not put any points on the board. That's problem against 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: a Tennessee defense that is bottom tier in almost every category, 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: that was giving up an average of thirty points a game. 89 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Came in winless. It was a lot of frustration for 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: players when they were generating explosives that were negated because 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: of penalties, a lot of self inflicted wounds from the offense, 92 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: a lot of penalties from the offensive line. That's where 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: you could feel the frustration. And then it was just 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 3: everything kind of felt like it was snowballing. You have 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: quarterback Kyler Murray questionable at one point with a foot injury, 96 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: so he goes out. You have Jacobe Brissett come in 97 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: on that first pass, You lose tight end Tip Ryman 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: for the rest of the season with a gruesome right 99 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: ankle injury, and Murrie ends up coming back. But it 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: just kind of you have running back of Mario Demarcato 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: drop the ball as he's crossing the goal line and 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: a really nice, what would have been seventy g yard touchdown, 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: and then that that doesn't count, so it just kind 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: of snowballed the rest of the game. You could feel 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: the frustration on the sideline from the players who more 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: or less had the game in the bag going into half. 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: I've got a stat for that, the Imari Demarcatto. Did 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: you see this ESPN research if if that touchdown would 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: have counted, and if the score had been twenty eight 110 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: to six with about twelve and a half to go 111 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, teams up twenty two in the 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: fourth quarter over the past twenty five seasons are two 113 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six in one. So to say that 114 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: touchdow Down would have sealed it would have been accurate. 115 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: Okay, But I do want to say this because you 116 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: say something like that and then all of everybody's going 117 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 4: to say that one play costs in the game, and 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: I have a major problem with that. And it's not 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: just because I'm trying to agree with Jonathan Gannon. Yes, 120 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: I agree that that would have sealed the game, but 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 4: when the fumble went through the end zone, it was 122 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: still twenty one to six. And the people that want 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: to say it was a fourteen point swing, it was 124 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 4: not a fourth point swing. It wasn't even a thirteen 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: point swing. Titans missed the extra point. It was a 126 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: seven point swing because the ball only came out to 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: the twenty. They were eighty yards away from scoring another touchdown, 128 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: and at that point they only had six points. So 129 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear Okay, Well, I guess everybody 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: can feel how they feel, but I don't want to 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: hear how that one play costs them the game. I 132 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: one hundred percent disagree with that. 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen point swing would be the Devin Lloyd picked 134 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: six at the goal line of Jeanne Harris, James Harris 135 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: and Paul By the way, KC. Blew a fourteen point 136 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: lead for the first time since twenty thirteen and lost 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: a game. I saw that stat. WTF what the football 138 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: chiefs just did it on Monday night. 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: I'll get nervous for you, but keep going. 140 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, aren't you Like every time you're like, 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: oh god, oh god, O got all right? 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: So we talk about the offensive line. Jeffrey Simmons here 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: according to the stat book. So once again, you guys 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: tell me one and a half sacks, six quarterback pressures. 145 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: You mentioned the flags up front, a lot of forced holds. 146 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Was he the game wreckord that he appears to be 147 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: in the box score? I mean, did you come away 148 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: from that game saying Aaron Donald or the first game 149 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: last year against Seattle Leonard Williams, like he wrecked the game? 150 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: No? I didn't. I mean, obviously he had a very 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: good game. But again, the Cardinals were up twenty one 152 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: to six, So like I didn't come away honestly, I'm 153 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: gonna be dead honest Like, I came away from that 154 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: game thinking the Cardinals did this to themselves, and I 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: think that's how they feel. And I'm not saying Simmons 156 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: didn't have a good game. I'm not saying cam Woord 157 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: didn't have a good fourth quarter. But like again, we're 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: in one of those positions and I know you can 159 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: do this every week, but like whether it's the one 160 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 4: time I'm going to agree that one play changed the game. 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: Is the idea that if any one of several plays 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: had gone a different way, the Cardinals don't lose. 163 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was the combination. 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean that interception by Rabbit Taylor Demerson 165 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: was an unbelievably athletic play. And what's hilarious is in 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: a very gallous human kind of way. He was so 167 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: athletic that I would guess most defenders that would have 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: been an incomplete pass because there's no way he would 169 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: have been able to put the ball away and made 170 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: a football move. But when I went back and looked, okay, 171 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: he was off balance the whole time, but he took 172 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: three steps and put the ball away before he hit 173 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: the ground, and that's why they called it a fumble. 174 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: Most players would not have been able to. 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: Do that, and they would have fallen and it would 176 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: have been an incomplete pass. And I would assume the 177 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 4: Titans would have probably gone forward at that point. 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: But still, it's like, so there were at least three 179 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: what the football plays that then multiplied would be exponentially 180 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: just reinforces and illustrates the level of craziness. And then 181 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: it makes me think of there was the win probability 182 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: at one point for the Titans was one point eight percent, 183 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: at the absolute rock bottom for Tennessee in that game, 184 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: and yet they found a way. Yet they didn't really 185 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: find a way. The Cardinals paved the way. 186 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: You can't allow a team to stay in it when 187 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: you have that kind of lead. And when the Cardinals, 188 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: i mean going into the game, when you look have 189 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: the advantage on paper in every aspect against that team, 190 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: there was no way you should have allowed Tennessee to 191 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: have stayed in the game as late as they did. 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: And big picture, that's been an issue for the Cardinals 193 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: all season. Right. Look, there are a few plays away 194 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: from having some extra wins, because that's now three straight 195 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: games where Cardinals have lost in a walk off field goal. Well, 196 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: they were also a few plays away when they won 197 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: a New Orleans week one from that not ending up well, right, 198 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: So you can look at it from both sides of Okay, 199 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 3: you're a few plays away from having some extra wins. 200 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: You're also a few plays away of it not working 201 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: out in your favor. That's big picture is how does 202 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: this team finish stronger? For Cardinals defense that has done 203 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: a really nice job at stopping the run. When you 204 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: know you're going to force quarterbacks to throw the ball 205 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: because you're making them one dimensional and you have a lead, 206 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: how can the secondary shut down those receivers more consistently 207 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: late in the game. How does your defense get off 208 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: the field? Those are the big pictures. It's yes, it's 209 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: unique in all the troubles that happened against Tennessee big picture, 210 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: it's the same thing we've really talked about every week 211 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: at the game, coming down to the wire when it 212 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: doesn't need to. 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 4: Harris Johnson Junior, who was great in the locker room 214 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: after the game, and he's been talking about after he's 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: been talking every game and he has very much stressed 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: we have to find a way to finish. But part 217 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 4: of the conversation that he was having with us after 218 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: this one was why do we have to have it 219 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: be this close in the first place? And this game 220 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 4: especially really rang true Like obviously the forty nine Ers 221 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: in the well, the Seahawks game, you're trailing the whole time. 222 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: The forty nine Ers game was just a slugfest the 223 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 4: whole time. This was a game that they should have 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: been able to run away and hide. It looked like 225 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: they were going to. They had three touchdowns on their 226 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: first four possessions. They looked electric, they were taking shots 227 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: down the field. It just looked. It looked really good. 228 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: And then it didn't. And there's lots of reasons that 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: go into it, and we've already talked about it. I mean, obviously, 230 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: the the the not knowing what the snap is between Yell, 231 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: the fro Holt and Kyler Murray cost them at least 232 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: three points. So then again there's another single play that 233 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 4: if it goes the other way, I mean. 234 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: If self inflicted again, if all that happens is they. 235 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: Just fall on the ball on the fumble, if they're 236 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: able to then they at least get three points onto that, 237 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: So why does it have to be that close? Is 238 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 4: really where I kind of land on. And I know 239 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: people want to talk about the conservative part of the 240 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: play calling, and I get that, and I understand why 241 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: people feel that way, But there was also there was 242 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: also one sequence after they got it. I'm pretty sure 243 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: they had already had twenty one points, and on first 244 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: and second down they took deep shots, which is what 245 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 4: everybody keeps telling me they have to keep doing. Why 246 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: aren't they taking deep shots? Well, the problem was is 247 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: the first two deep shots were incomplete, and then I 248 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: forget what happened on third down. I think it was 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 4: another pass. I don't know it was incomplete or if 250 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: it was short as sticks, but it ended up being 251 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 4: a three and out. And that's why you get leary 252 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: about throwing all the time and throwing deep, because if 253 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 4: they don't connect, then it's sol. 254 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: You can lament certain play calls, and justifiably so. In 255 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: the third and eight, for example, Jonathan Gannon said he 256 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: didn't like it, Drew didn't like it, Drew petsying, Okay, 257 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: I get it to me. The much bigger culprit. I 258 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: don't want to be like a sideline psychologist here. But 259 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: once the sideline turns it off, it's really hard to 260 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: turn it back on again. Meaning once the sideline thinks, 261 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're in cruise control. We've got a two 262 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: to three score lead, and then you find out the 263 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: hard way, exactly what Jonathan Gannon warned about going into 264 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: that game. An on four NFL team is not a 265 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: kid doing zero to four team in college football, and sometimes, 266 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: especially the young guys got to learn that the hard way. 267 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: The Cardinal's got in their own way. Tennessee's offense was 268 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: non existent for the first three quarters, allowed a rookie 269 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: quarterback in cam Ward, who was inconsistent, did not look good, 270 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: looked uncomfortable all game to get comfortable to make a 271 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: few big plays, and that allowed Tennessee to gain the 272 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: confidence to get rolling. And you just can't have that mentally. 273 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: This is a team that has shown grit and has 274 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: shown they have fight, and now they have to dig 275 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: deep and they have to find the mental strength to 276 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: move past this, because look, the silver lining is of 277 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: the Cardinals going to Indianapolis and they beat a really 278 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: good colts team. You're three and three, is it where 279 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: you want to be No, that's an okay place to be. 280 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: Though for the first six games you continue to work 281 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: through things. 282 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to point out two persistent themes and then 283 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: once again, you guys can agree or disagree as to 284 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: what I think is front burner right here, right now, 285 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: going the rest of the season. But Danny is the 286 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: room for getting cultured. I believe there is here we 287 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: go always Danny will segue to you getting cultured. 288 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: With Danny it is not just directed at Paul. 289 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: Am I the dep cultured philistine around here. 290 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 4: Yes, he got me very excited. 291 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: Now I am on social media and consume more at 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: pop culture than both of you combined. 293 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go. 294 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: We're going to change gears a bit to college football. Okay, 295 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: College game Day every week has a kicking challenge with 296 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: a student who wins that opportunity from a raffle, and 297 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: it's with Pat McAfee, former NFL kicker. You have to 298 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: make a thirty three yard field goal for three hundred 299 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. That's what was on the line for Alabama's 300 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: student Gabby, who won the raffle. She's a senior chemical 301 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: engineering major, had never kicked a ball. When McAfee asker said, 302 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: if I ever have, I don't remember it. Respectfully, you 303 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: could why is. 304 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: She getting in the raffle in the first place. 305 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to look like 306 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: a fool. 307 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: Hey, hang on, look at the big brain on Gabby 308 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: chemical Engineerstfully. 309 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: You could tell she had never kicked a ball before. 310 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: So they did the right thing, and for her second try, 311 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: if Kirkurbstreet could throw the ball in a suit through 312 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: the uprights, McAfee would give her three hundred thousand. 313 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: Dollars former college quarterback. 314 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: He did it without a problem, obviously, and so she 315 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: wanted a ton of money, which I thought was really great. 316 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: That was That was class. That was a good move 317 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: by Pat McAfee. 318 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: Kind of fitting going to Indianapolis. Pat mcafey, one of 319 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: us so on the broadcast crew is gonna be hanging 320 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: out in McAfee's sweet probably pregame in Indianapolis. Oh No, 321 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: that b a Q Shipley. 322 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: Sorry, are you gonna go to lock Miller's the night before? 323 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: Hold? 324 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: Please, don't don't jump the culture. Did either of you 325 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: see that? At one point there were a thousand people 326 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: stranded on Mount Everest due to a blizzard. Yes, they 327 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: have started rescuing people. There's still little more than two 328 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: hundred people stranded. A thousand people at one point? 329 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: Is that why you're chewing on ice Mount Everest? Is that? 330 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 331 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Thousand people? 332 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: Really a thousand people? 333 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: Don't they have like a whole permit process? 334 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: Well, we know, like, why would they need to be rescued? 335 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: Do they have create a village up there? 336 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: What's next? Turnstyles? 337 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: People feel really strongly about how and hiking Mount Everest 338 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: has come to be what it is today. That's not 339 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 3: the point of having this on getting culture though our 340 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 3: last point, Mark Sanchez found themselves in a little bit 341 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 3: legal trouble over the weekend. The Fox Sports analyst was 342 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: in downtown Indianapolis at a really incredible dive bar. In fact, 343 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: I might argue, I will argue the best dive bar 344 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 3: in America, Bob Miller's Wow in downtown Indianapolis. Something how 345 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: to pronounce it? 346 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: Finally something Danny knows something about dive bars. Here we go. 347 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: The altercation came early Saturday morning between Sanchez and a 348 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: delivery truck driver. Both are in the hospital. 349 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: They should cite the age difference. By the way, how old. 350 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: Is Sancha Probably what twenty thirty? It's almost to thirty years. Yeah. 351 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: The other the victim is also in the hospital with 352 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: some gnarly gnarly injuries, and Sanchez will likely face legal charges. 353 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: So can you imagine the phone calls going on between 354 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: the exacs on Saturday, flying another analyst out to cover 355 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: the Colts game because Sanchez wasn't available. 356 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, so we will, off. 357 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: The record, still be attending lof Miller's in Indianapolis this weekend. 358 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: Okay, just don't look for a parking spot indian Helpless 359 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: this weekend, because now that's how that's whole the whole 360 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: thing started, apparently, right, No, a parking spot. 361 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: No, that's the worst part. It wasn't. Oh, we can 362 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 4: talk off air. Okay, all right, if you read all 363 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 4: the stuff, you will be blown away. 364 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, and you've been cultured. You welcome, you 365 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: know what. 366 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: I am welcome because it's my new favorite segment. You 367 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: know why, because I can't lose in getting cultured. So 368 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: I decided it's the only segment on this show where 369 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: I don't take the l I think I got it right. 370 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: It did and so right hand. 371 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: Okay, So two pant themes this year that I'm going 372 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: to throw out there and you guys can analyze accordingly. 373 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: Number One, I think almost every week, maybe save one 374 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: Seattle because you had to come back, but every week 375 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: I've written down postgame questions, potential postgame questions. The same one. Jeez, 376 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: what's the formula for finishing? Right? Finishing? That's a persistent theme. 377 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: The other one, and I threw this out on the 378 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: Red Sea Report with Craig Griolou and Rob Frederckson, and 379 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: I think Rob did agree with me on a football 380 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: point for the first time all year. I said, what 381 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: asked to stop is the trend of one guy taking 382 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: his one moment to make his one mistake, and it's 383 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: every guy at different times in every game, and that, 384 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: to me makes it almost impossible to solve because you 385 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: can't get up on the whiteboard and go one, two, 386 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: three prior to prioritize a B or C. Because everyone 387 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: just takes there one turn at different times to make 388 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: there're one mistake that is costly. 389 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: I think that's and I've been through this so many 390 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: different times over the years at different areas in terms 391 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: of things are not going well for one side of 392 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 4: the ball or the other and wanting to make changes 393 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: and the fans getting upset about this, and the the 394 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: issue ends up becoming always that. I mean, you could 395 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: say that every time. It's always there's there's. 396 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: Never say that about teams with losing records. Yeah, I 397 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: would specify. 398 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's what I'm saying when 399 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: you when fans want change is what I'm saying, Like 400 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: they want they want that one lynchpin that you If 401 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: you change that slash, get rid of that, then everything's fixed. 402 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: And it's why the backup quarterback is always so popular 403 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: because they think it's the one move that's going to 404 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: make the ultimate difference. 405 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 4: That's not. That's not what it is. That's never what 406 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: it is. 407 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: Not just on defense though, on offense that that has 408 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: been somewhat of the narrative on getting offensive lineman Will 409 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: Hernandez back is Oh, you get Hernanda's back, and the 410 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: offensive line is going to be completely solid. The run 411 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: game is really going to take off. Having Hernandez absolutely 412 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 3: benefits this offensive line. That's not the one solution that's 413 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: going to completely change everything. It was three hundred and 414 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: sixty four days since Hernandez had that season ending knee injury. 415 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: He returned to the field, he was on a pitch count, 416 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: so he played just really the first quarter, and he 417 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: looked good at right guard. I mean the Cardinals were 418 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: finding success on offense with him in there. 419 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: Now, old points came with will Hernandez in the game? 420 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, But that's the point is you can't say, oh, okay, well, 421 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: once you didn't have Hernandez in for the rest of 422 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: the game. That is what stalled this offense. Like it's 423 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: more than just that one thing. I think Hernandez played 424 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: well enough that it's a legitimate conversation. Now where once 425 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: he is healthy enough for a full sixty minutes and 426 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: Evan Brown is healthy enough to return as your starting 427 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: left guard, does Hernandez go in for Isaiah Adams as 428 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: your new starting right guard. You need a jolt of 429 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: energy with his Cardinals offense. You saw some good things 430 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: from Michael Carter who had a rushing touchdown, as did 431 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: Bam Knight. You need that jolt, and while Hernandez can 432 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: give that to you and be a really strong run blocker, 433 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: that's not gonna be your one stop shot for everything 434 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: suddenly coming together for this offense? 435 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: What else, Darren? What else are we missing? Could I 436 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: surmise them? Let me throw another one out and this 437 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: is this is unreally you know we started the year 438 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: with hashtag free sweat, Josh sweat. He talked about Vic 439 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: Fangio in the Super Bowl. Yes, as a fresher memory 440 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: of such a such a outstanding take, Darren remembers it 441 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: exactly zero. So the whole Josh sweat. That's one of 442 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: the reasons he came to play for John and again 443 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: and Nick Rowlis again, the way they use him. He 444 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: had two more sacks in this game. Although I think 445 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 2: we can all agree that affecting the quarterback getting to 446 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback in the fourth quarter of a number of 447 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: games this year has been an issue just as a 448 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: defense entirely. Remember the days when the Cardinals offense consisted 449 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 2: of roll the ball out there and let Kyler be Kyler, 450 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: let Kyler create Murray magic. Do you think now, perhaps 451 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: at times the Cardinals offense is overcorrected that the new 452 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: hashtag should be free Kyler. Third and eight. What does 453 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator fear the most? An opposing defensive coordinator 454 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: We've heard him say it to the media many times. 455 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: It's the dual threat of Kyler, Oh he's in space, 456 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: is he gonna throw it? Is he gonna tuck it 457 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: and run it? And so if in a gout to 458 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: have it moment, you're not going with the fifty million 459 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: dollar quarterback and who poses the biggest threat with the 460 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: arman or the legs and at least showing that threat 461 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: to the defense, it could be either or are you 462 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: doing the defense of favor? And is that one of 463 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: the reasons that Johnathangan and Andrew patzing Bow said didn't 464 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: love the run play on thirty eight. I just wonder 465 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 2: if you can hit zoom out on that a little bit, 466 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: extrapolate that into maybe a tweak and adjustment going forward 467 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: to feature what those defenses fear the most and leverage 468 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: that a little bit more. And that's a dual threat 469 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: at Kyler Murray on the move. 470 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: Especially, hindsight is always twenty twenty. Both gann And and 471 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: pet Singh said early on this week when talking to 472 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: Meta that they didn't like the call, and I'm sure 473 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: that there's going to be conversations of what were we 474 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: seeing in the moment to go with that specific play 475 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 3: call to go with the run over a pass and 476 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: fans aren't going to like it, but all you can 477 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: do at this point is learn from it and move forward. 478 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 3: And I know that that's not the ens they want 479 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: to hear because it's not going to change things. It's 480 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: a fair argument though, of okay, in that situation, do 481 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: you want to run the ball or do you want 482 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: to put in the hands of your quarterback When you've 483 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: got the number four overall pick and a receiver in 484 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: Harrison and you've got the number one tight end in 485 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: the league and Trey McBride. Those are going to be 486 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: conversations that are going to continue happening with this coaching 487 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: staff and they're going to have to find ways to 488 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: win the game and to keep the lead, and maybe 489 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: we see them be a little more aggressive on offense 490 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: moving forward in situations like that. 491 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: For example, Daniel Jones and Kyler Murray have won in common. 492 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: They went in the same draft. Kyler went one, Daniel 493 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: Jones went sixth overall. And the difference in the two 494 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: quarterbacks two totally different styles, I get it, and Kyler 495 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 2: was much more decorated. The Heisman winner, the pedigree all 496 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones not nearly as much. In fact, most 497 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: people thought the Giants had reached for him. He was 498 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: more of a middle the first round type pick if 499 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: you go back to twenty nineteen, etc. Etc. But the 500 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: big difference obviously was the extreme athleticism of Kyler versus 501 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. So you go into Sunday in this week's 502 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: six matchup, and I personally would love to see that 503 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: on display. Let's see that athleticism Kyler that when you 504 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: watch the two quarterbacks duel on Sunday, you realize, Wow, 505 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: guess what, Kyler is much more of a dual threat. 506 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: Even though the Giants used to use Daniel Jones in 507 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: a running capacity. If you go back to that playoff 508 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: win in Minnesota that they pulled and Daniel Jones ran 509 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: for ridiculous amount of yards in that game. I'm just saying, 510 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: they're two totally different athletes. Can you somehow use that 511 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: to your advantage? Well on Sunday. 512 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 4: I do think they're a little bit different. I don't 513 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: think they're as different as you say. I mean, I 514 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 4: still have seen Daniel Jones use his legs as killers 515 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: a couple of times a season for the Colts. He's 516 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: he's sneaky, athletic and he makes big plays. I do 517 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: think it's a little and I mentioned this somewhere else, 518 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 4: maybe with a mailbag or whatever, but it is. It 519 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: is kind of humorous to me, and this is what 520 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: happens when things don't go well. And I understand that, 521 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 4: but correct me if I'm wrong. But I could have sworn. 522 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: One of the issues that many fans and others would 523 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 4: bring up during the Cliff Kingsbury era was that his 524 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 4: whole offense was let Kyler cook. And now we're back 525 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: now now we're like so then we came in, there's 526 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: this very specific offense and he's trying to run within it, 527 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: and now we're back to Well, that doesn't work, So 528 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: let's why can't Why why aren't they letting Kyler cook? 529 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 4: Well that I again, that's where I. 530 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: Get My point is to reiterate, is did they overcorrect 531 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: possible that in key gotta have it moments, DC's over 532 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: on the opposing sideline saying, oh, please don't get Kyler 533 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: in space, Please don't let it where he has the 534 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: thread of the run over the pass and the four 535 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: to three to beat us to the sticks of the pylon. 536 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: I just in moments like that, I think there's still 537 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: room for that. 538 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: I feel like that, like that last third down play, 539 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 4: that feels like one of those plays. And and Jonathan 540 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: Gannon basically acknowledged this, like we talked putting it in 541 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 4: Kyler's hands, and it felt like that's one of those 542 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: ones where you want to let him call pass play, 543 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: but give him the option like he did against Miami 544 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: last year when they had the game winning drive where 545 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 4: it was like there was like two or three plays 546 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: where it was a pass, but in the end Kyler 547 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: ended up scrambling. Maybe there might have been a called 548 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: run in there, but like Kyler was the one who 549 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: engineered that drive. 550 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna get to wise guy here in 551 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: a minute. But Mario de Mercado, we all know what happened, 552 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: what was like in the locker room, and especially in 553 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: front of his locker, because a lot of guys would 554 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: have exit stage left, they would have bolted in that situation, 555 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: never met the media. 556 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: Here's a there's a couple things here. One, I do 557 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 4: respect the players that are willing to say that. I 558 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: know it came up after that about people talking at 559 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: their locker but I've been around enough times when i've 560 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: and it's happened this season with some Cardinals where they're 561 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: not there to talk. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna 562 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: point out is it their job to answer questions after games? 563 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: I believe yes, But there are enough guys that don't 564 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: do that that I think he gets a little bit 565 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: of credit, and he gets credit for being there and 566 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: and standing up for it. You know, Amari is not 567 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: a man of many words. He took full responsibility. Let's 568 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: make clear that. Like, I know the video that went 569 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: out there about Ganning getting into him and getting a 570 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: little bit physical, you know, that never came up. Like 571 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: if the video hadn't been out there, nobody would know 572 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: about it. Amari certainly wasn't saying anything about it. Paris, 573 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: who was there at the time, didn't say anything about it. 574 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: So like that Amari knew he messed up. And I'm 575 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: I'm with Ron Wolfley, like Amari might have been the 576 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: last person in the entire locker room that I would 577 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: have ever guessed would have done something like that. So 578 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like I don't I guess I wouldn't have 579 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: been shocked if he had gotten cut I'd never thought 580 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: he was going to for multiple reasons, one being they 581 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 4: need him right now. Two, like you people have not 582 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: been paying attention. This isn't a fringe player. This is 583 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: the guy who beat out Michael Carter two years in 584 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: a row. So that's that's kind of how my take 585 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: on that look. 586 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: Deemercatdo owned his mistake, and as we mentioned earlier, the 587 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: reality is is after that play, the Cardinals had many 588 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: other opportunities to seal the game. It was not that 589 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: final That was not the final play, That was not 590 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: the only play that contributed to the Cardinals loss. This 591 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: team is going to have to rely on leaders like 592 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior for the mental strength it's going to 593 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: take to get past that win and the fact that 594 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: you have three straight heartbreaking losses that have come down 595 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 3: to the final play. And it was Johnson who was 596 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: talking with de Mercado on the sideline and took him 597 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: to the side by the kicking net with his position 598 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: coach Audrey Denson, and told him, hey, stay in this, like, 599 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: let's go like, let's let's kind of settle our emotions. 600 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: Let's get back into this. Deamercatto was beating himself up 601 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: over at immediately on the sideline's that's a mistake that 602 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: one can't happen, and two you have to move forward 603 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: from the Cardinals are not in a position to make 604 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: an example of demercato. I think I think the message 605 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: has been made clear. 606 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: I'd say so yes, based on the aftermath and the 607 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: blowback and all that. Look. I also say, and I 608 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier on Red Sea Report, that you have 609 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: a new rule I believe that comes from that play, 610 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: and it goes something like this. There's a new goal 611 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: line and it's the goal post. Okay, no touchdown to 612 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: goal post. You got to just make sure you're within 613 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: arms distance of the goal posts before thou shalt drop 614 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: the football. Let's adopt that as a new rule. 615 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: I would just like, can we adopt that as a 616 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: new rule? Like across football, college football, NFL, high school. 617 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: There was some story I saw it in click on 618 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: it or maybe we got to coming up about uh 619 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: you know they did like a deep dive to talk 620 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: to a sports psychologist about why it's happening, or you know, okay, 621 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: all right here we go, uh time for your you 622 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: know what, Let's see if poly pencil neck over here 623 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: can finish. We call it wise Guy. 624 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy, the world's fastest growing 625 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets 626 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess. 627 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: With the mostess. 628 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: Danny's right. 629 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: Time for some Indianapolis cults. Wise Guy, Danny, Have. 630 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: I led every week? I mean, my record is won. 631 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: But have I led every single week on Darren and 632 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: just blown it at the end? Is that accurate? That's 633 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: that's the that's my recollection. 634 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so's. I'll do number one as 635 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: our reigning winner. This former Cardinals defender got his NFL 636 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 3: start with the Colts in nineteen ninety seven, briefly played 637 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: in the CFL, and ended his career in Arizona, where 638 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: he played from two thousand and four to two thousand 639 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: and nine. 640 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: Bertrand Barry correct, see. 641 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: Once again. 642 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: No, you always know Darren's answers, right, You never known 643 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: your own. 644 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: I did five years of the guy in the Big 645 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Red rage. That was That was my stinking question. Now 646 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm in the whole. Okay, I'll tell you what. Mac 647 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: Wilson Senior number. 648 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: Two from time to time former Colts and Cardinals running 649 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: back Kirwin Williams enjoyed his signature double decker peanut butter 650 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: and jelly sandwich for four games. What was the name 651 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: of the sandwich? 652 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: No, I think I have this. I think I I 653 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: the kerwitch correct? 654 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: How about it? How about it? 655 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I wouldn't have got it? 656 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: Delicious right now? 657 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: How about that? I was there at the locker. It's 658 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 2: just good. I recollect it. There we go, here we are. 659 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: Nice job, Darren. 660 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: Three. 661 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 4: Three, We'll do three. 662 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 3: In two thousand and six, Pro Football Hall of Fame 663 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: running back Edger and James signed with the Cardinals. What 664 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: part of the Cardinals uniform did he get mister b 665 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 3: to change? 666 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 4: Was that the black shoes? 667 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: It sure was. Okay, Paul, you gotta get this one right. 668 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: No pressure, Paul, no pressure whatsoever. Here we go. Gotta finish, finish, calBC. 669 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: Let's go. 670 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 3: Question four. 671 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: I don't have a pen if we need it. 672 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: This former nineteen ninety six first round pick of the 673 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: Cardinals collected fifty one and a half sacks in Arizona. 674 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: He also had one sack in his lone season with 675 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: the Colts in two thousand and seven. Who was he 676 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six first round pick. 677 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 2: Okay, it's gotta be Simeon Rice. 678 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: Correct, ladies and gentlemen, we have a game gotta be 679 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: and Rice played for the Colts. 680 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 681 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 4: I played the guess no. 682 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: Clue, Okay, I would. 683 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: This is a really good tiebreaker question. This is fun, 684 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 3: this is this is the first time in a while 685 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: we've had an actual tiebreaker question. 686 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: As zoned in, I'm trying to focus. 687 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 3: Let's go tiebreaker. 688 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: It's all business right now. 689 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: What is the current price of the famous shrimp cocktail 690 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: at Saint Almos and Indianapolis. 691 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: I'm paully protesting this. You guys go every stinking year 692 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: to the combine for a week. I always get left behind. 693 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: I don't pay the bill. 694 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: I'm in a serious competitive disadvantage the price on the 695 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: shrimp cocktail. 696 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: Yes, let's go. Remember the winner gets absolutely nothing. So 697 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 3: tried really hard. 698 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: Okay, the appetizer. 699 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: Darren showed me his answer. 700 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: I mean Darren's got the expense report. He pays the bill. 701 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: I'm over here on that has not taken us to 702 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: Saint Almos in many years. 703 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: That's a diet. That's a shot. That's a low key shot. There. 704 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 4: I ordered the shrimp. No budget, I have no budget 705 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: and no control over it, and. 706 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: I ordered steak sandwich. I put it on the Underhill account. 707 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: All right, let me write that? Am I writing it down? 708 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: Let's see the appetizer sick because I shrimp cocktail. They 709 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: probably don't want to exceed twenty dollars nineteen ninety five. 710 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 3: Darren gets nineteen ninety nine. The correct answer is nineteen 711 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 3: ninety five. Oh, how about it? On the note about that, 712 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: Paul gets a tiebreaker win. Unbelievable, right there, should celebrate 713 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 3: with some say, almost shrimp cocktail this weekend. 714 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: I went back to Danny. 715 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: That's right. Well, no, Danny won't be there. She'll be 716 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: at the dive bars. 717 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: So if you want to shop Millers and I'm not ordering, 718 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 3: they do not have shrimp cock sh shrimp at a 719 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: dive bar, no shellfish at a dive bar. 720 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 4: Two dollars. 721 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 3: We gonna get you out there with us. Paul, Jared 722 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: and I will be wearing our matching shirts from there. 723 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 4: That's true. 724 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: Wait, what that sounds a little weird? What matching shirts? 725 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 4: Quick siling story at one of the combine. 726 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: You might want tred light. This may not help you 727 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: and your Q rating here, let's. 728 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 4: See and uh, myself, Danny, Kyle d'rony, and Grayson Joy 729 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: ended up there and we took what turned out to 730 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: be a really nice picture of the four of us. Okay, 731 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 4: and I took the picture of that and I had 732 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 4: it made into four T shirts. 733 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: Wow, that is next level thoughtful. 734 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: We were all for holding cups of water in the picture. 735 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: That's a considerate gentleman, right there. Wow. 736 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm really excited. You'll see it in person. 737 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I didn't know Darren had it in them. 738 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 739 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 4: I'm full of surprises. 740 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, there you go. Let's see here, Tip Ryman, 741 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: show a hands who actually watched the injury because I 742 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: did not and not watching it, didn't watch James Connor. 743 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: I get nause at the sight of an open face sandwich. 744 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: I'm not watching that. So there's no chance. Oh man, 745 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: this is because of the male. Tip's one of our 746 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: favorite guys. I mean, come on, now, didn't they have 747 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: like a didn't they have a you know, the cards 748 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: cam where they come in the answer the question they did. 749 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 3: The recent question players walking out to practice on our 750 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: social media channels is who would you want to be 751 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: in a zombie apocalypse with? And everyone answered Tip Ryman, 752 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 3: which is the only right answer, unless maybe you're gonna say, 753 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 3: like Kalays Campbell, he's gonna hide behind him. 754 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: A number of people and actually Tip agreed with this. 755 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: Zavin Collins, I could see that Tips, if he had 756 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: to like choose a wingman, like ituld be a two 757 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: man games. 758 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: Is that because of. 759 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: The cowboy, the zombie, you know, the whole thing he 760 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: grew up. 761 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 4: You don't know, you feel like Xavin could live off 762 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: the land. 763 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of thing, so. 764 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 3: You know, pretty creative when he has to be. But 765 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: Ryman was a pretty popular answer, and it was. It 766 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: was a gruesome injury. It was pretty immediate. Everyone ran 767 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 3: out there, you know, the training staff, the athletic trainers 768 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: immediately put him in an air cast. And Ryman received 769 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: a lot of applause when he got onto the car, 770 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 3: and he was as animated as he always is. He 771 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: was giving a thumbs up as he was driven off 772 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: the He was hyping up his teammates, pointing at them saying, 773 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: let's go. That's a tough loss for an offense that 774 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: is run first, for an offense that is still trying 775 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 3: to get the run game going consistently through four quarters. 776 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: Now they lose one of their best blockers who is 777 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 3: a self proclaimed mauler, and I would expect we see 778 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: a lot more jumbo packages with the extra offensive lineman 779 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: to counteract maybe some of this twelve thirteen personnel we 780 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: see often in this offense. That's a blow, though you're 781 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: gonna be without Ryman for the rest of the year. 782 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. At the forty nine Ers 783 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 2: activated Josh Fier. They brought him in as an extra alignment. 784 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: We know Kelvin Beacham has done quite a bit of that. 785 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 4: They eacham played a ton this weekend. 786 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: There you go. What's interesting is in the Seattle game, 787 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: tip Ryman got a half dozen snaps because they went 788 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: eleven personnel fifty four out of sixty seven snaps. So, now, 789 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: dot dot dot, was that just because of the Seahawks. 790 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: What are they going to do against the Colts? Do 791 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: they have to just accordingly? Does it look more like 792 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: what you saw against Seattle? Now effective and media, you 793 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: don't have the service as a tip Ryman. That's definitely 794 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: something to monitor. Maybe something good for your notes column there, 795 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: Darren you know, as I just you know, go out 796 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: here and be I appreciate you, ye, do your job 797 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: for you volunteer, you know, be your editor over there. Okay, well, 798 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 2: here's the other thing I was curious about with that game, 799 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: Will Johnson? Tell me how Will Johnson played? How much? 800 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: Did he play? 801 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 4: Fifty five snaps? Which was I think they played sixty 802 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: eight defensive snaps? Maybe I forget it was it was, 803 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 4: but Will Johnson was limited, like he was on a 804 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 4: snap count. Now, when I saw that he played fifty five, 805 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 4: I was surprised. 806 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 3: He was on a like that's that's probably the situation 807 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: where he was unexpectedly playing more, probably and the plan 808 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: was because he was coming off a groinerge where he 809 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 3: didn't play two weeks. 810 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: But I do think he played fairly well. Had definitely 811 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 4: had a I remember at least one pass breakup. He 812 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 4: was in the middle of a couple of things. Unfortunately, 813 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 4: he was also in the middle of the scrum that 814 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 4: didn't get the rabbit Taylor Defferson fumble like him and 815 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 4: Kee trow Clark's good though. 816 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: After that game, I had the thought of you forget 817 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: that that was only Johnson's second game in the pros 818 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: because he played. He missed the third game, because he 819 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: missed two games, which is a good thing that you're 820 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 3: having one of your star cornerbacks out there and he's 821 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: he's not the weak link. He is not a liability 822 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: out there for this defense. 823 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, look at his debut against New Orleans, right, I 824 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 2: mean that was something to behold, no doubt about it. 825 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: All Right, winning behavior, what do you think down the 826 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: stretch we come, Yes, here we go. Can you display 827 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 2: winning behavior? You have to consistently display winning behavior. That's 828 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: winning behavior. You've got to define what winning behavior is 829 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: and hold people to that standard. Yes, all right, we'll 830 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 2: get to the ticket that wasn't for the Waimo. We're 831 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: started with the Broncos going for two. 832 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 4: I think that's a good one. I Mean, there's lots 833 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 4: of thoughts on Sean Payton, but there's no question he's 834 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 4: a good coach. But here was a guy there in Philly. 835 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 4: They score the touchdown to bring them within one, but 836 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: there's like ten minutes to go in the game, and 837 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 4: he could have kicked the extra point and tied it, 838 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 4: and he went for two and got the lead. And 839 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 4: then later when they got a field goal, all of 840 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 4: a sudden, if I recall correctly, didn't they win twenty 841 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 4: one to seventeen. I'm trying to remember what that was, 842 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 4: but regardless, they put themselves in a position. Yeah. So 843 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 4: like when they kicked their field goal, all of a sudden, 844 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 4: it became a touchdown that Philly needed because of that 845 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 4: two point conversion. And I just think it takes some 846 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 4: stones to do that because if you miss it, like, 847 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 4: you put yourself in a tough place. But he was 848 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 4: aggressive and you're playing in a place that's tough to 849 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: play in Philly. I mean, I don't know if the 850 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 4: winning behavior there was a winning behavior in that game 851 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 4: to lose in a not winning behavior in that game. 852 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 4: The winning behavior to me was Peyton going for two. 853 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 4: I think that was impressive. The not winning behavior was 854 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley in a four what ended up being a 855 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 4: four point game, got six carries something ridiculous, Wow, because 856 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 4: the wide receivers have been complaining about not getting the ball, 857 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 4: so now you're you're going against a really good defense. 858 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 4: Part of the six carries for Saquon Barkley could have 859 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 4: been about, like, we're not gonna run agos defense up front. 860 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: So like the Cardinals against the Seahawks. Right, we're not 861 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: gonna play them in a fo both. 862 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: But still I think but going back, I think the 863 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 4: Peyton going for two, that's that's definitely twenty twenty five 864 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 4: NFL and not the past. 865 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: And if I saw Peyton getting the game ball from 866 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: ownership in the postgame locker room, he passed Bill Parcells. 867 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: Like most regular season wins. So it's a little different 868 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 2: when you're a Hall of Fame head coach with a 869 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: ring and you have, you know, three hundred plus wins 870 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 2: or whatever it is, and you know, rookie head coach 871 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: maybe doesn't make the same decision. We get it. But 872 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: can I just say something about the NFL season of 873 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 2: the Broncos. They started one and two and the Chargers 874 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: started three and zero, and everybody proclaimed the Chargers is 875 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: the team to be in the AFC West. Well, now 876 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: here we are after week five. Look at how it's 877 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 2: already flipped. Look at the Lions in week one, lost 878 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: to the Packers, got throttled. Now all of a sudden, 879 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: the Lions are four and one, and all of a 880 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: sudden they're the best in the NFC all over again. 881 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: So let's just wait. You know it's great. We love it. 882 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: We love the overreaction. Mondays and sometimes Tuesdays when it's 883 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: a tough loss. I get it. But let's just wait 884 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: and see what transpires. I guess all right. Uh, northern California, 885 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: there was a weimo and it made an illegal Utah. 886 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 4: I find all these winning behavior weird stuff. They're always 887 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 4: in the Bay Area. But anyways, go ahead's. 888 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 3: Going on up there isn't where the squirrel thing was taking. 889 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 2: Yes, there're are more waymos in Phoenix, one of the 890 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: launch markets than than before we go into profile the 891 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: Norcow I mean. 892 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 4: On around the cops profiling waymol actually get to that point. 893 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: San Bruno is basically where Craig Griolu is from. So 894 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 2: explaming on Grielu right because the San BRUNOPD. They wrote 895 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: in a now viral social media post that officers were 896 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 2: conducting a DUI operation right and a self driving weymo 897 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 2: made the illegal U turn. They stopped it. Roll down 898 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 2: your window and wait a minute. Uh okay, what happened. 899 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 4: What I enjoyed was it said they stopped the vehicle, 900 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 4: but in the report they said they declined to write 901 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 4: a ticket. As their quote citation books don't have a 902 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 4: box for robot. 903 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 2: Just just send uh, you know, just just send a 904 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: knee ticket to the IP address. 905 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 3: When we were getting all that rain a couple of 906 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 3: weeks ago. Did either of you see the videos of 907 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 3: people having to abandon their weymos with the doors open 908 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 3: because at the airport because there was so much water 909 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: in the road that the cars couldn't recognize where the 910 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 3: lanes were, so the cars weren't moving, so people get out. 911 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 2: Yes, did not see that? Not the biggest fan uh 912 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: Blue the mascot, Danny, this is yours. 913 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: I didn't even write this on the rundown, I did, Sarah, 914 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 3: just trying to get me all worked up. 915 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 2: Somebody knew. Somebody knew you might have a story or 916 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: a grudge about Blue. Do you take a grudge into Indianapolis? 917 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: You do? I do. 918 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 3: Here's my problem with Blue the mascot, the Colts mascot 919 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 3: from Afar. Is he funny and quirky? Sure you could 920 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 3: say that when you are on the sidelines and you 921 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 3: are working, and three separate times he comes up to 922 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 3: interfere with you completely unnecessarily. Yeah, I have a problem 923 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 3: with that. That's exactly what happened when we were in 924 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 3: Indie for preseason two years ago. Yes, at this point, 925 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: it was three separate times where I was doing my job, 926 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: either watching the game or taking notes or talking to 927 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 3: the producer and the microphone, and he gets up in 928 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 3: my face. He starts blowing those confetti pieces out of 929 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 3: his nostrils, right in my face, and it's so funny 930 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 3: to him. But some of us are actually working and 931 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 3: I wasn't a fan because one of the clips kind 932 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: of started circulating online and then I look like the loser, 933 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 3: but nobody knows the backstory. 934 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 4: Look, Boomer, first of all, have you have you talked 935 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: to Marv, who apparently is close friends with Blue and 936 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 4: maybe Marv can like kind of negotiated Dayton between the 937 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: I'm just. 938 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: Gonna be ready if he blows one of those confetti 939 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 3: pieces out of his noster, I might just rip it 940 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 3: out the nostril. That's where they come out of. 941 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 4: No, I understand, but that. 942 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: Darren, you know what she needs. 943 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 4: Look, we've already had We've already had one arrest for 944 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 4: assault in Indianapolis. We don't need another one. 945 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 3: And he should stay out of my way. 946 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 2: One NFL broadcast employees Miller's Darren, you know what she needs. 947 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley in his prime. Remember when Barkley used to 948 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 2: pound all the mascots on the road and it was 949 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: like a shtick, hilarious, especially the Nuggets mascot. Whatever the 950 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: Nuggets mascot is used to pound. That is you better 951 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 2: not gettingwhere near the Philly fanatic. You know, Philly fanatic 952 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: has what the tongue? You want to have fun? 953 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 3: That's fine, it's just it's reading the room. 954 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 4: Where the same? 955 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 3: All right? And also why was he on the Cardinals 956 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 3: sideline so many times? 957 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 4: Because you were there, Danny? 958 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of ya. 959 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 3: Just my blood is boiled. 960 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of boomers, let's get to Jerry Jones and Joe Flacco. 961 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 2: There's my segue. Jerry Jones, he's appealing it, he's appealing. 962 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 3: In the two hundred fifty he gave him the birth. 963 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I accidentally flipped off Jets fans. I guess I 964 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 4: didn't see that until he had gotten the fine we 965 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 4: sent poor Beer on them. 966 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 2: See when I hear Jerry Jones in two fifty, I 967 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 2: think two hundred and fifty million for his super yacht. 968 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 4: If I remember, I'm like, I'm thinking of myself, why 969 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 4: bother appealing? Just peel that off your wallet and just 970 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 4: be done with it, right. 971 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: Have you seen how he's handled contracts? 972 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 4: That's also true. 973 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 2: But Joe Flacco to the Bengals. Bengals need a quarterback. 974 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 4: Which is interesting to me because the Cardinals play the 975 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 4: Bengals what the next last game of the season. Yes, 976 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 4: there's an outside chance Joe Burrow could be back. There's 977 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 4: been mixed on Flacco going to the Bengals, and I 978 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 4: find it interesting because a lot of people are like, 979 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 4: what's the point. It's Joe flaccol He's been benched for 980 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 4: two rookie quarterbacks over two seasons or whatever it is. 981 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 4: But the idea is the Bengals are trying whatever they 982 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 4: can to stay in the mix, especially with the Ravens 983 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 4: being as bad as they are, because if you can 984 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 4: somehow sneak your way into the playoffs and get Burrow 985 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 4: back at the end of the season, a healthy Burrow 986 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 4: gives you a chance, especially this season where it doesn't 987 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 4: seem like there's any dominant teams. 988 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 2: Here's a game plan when Jamar Chase has more tackles 989 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: than catches in a game because your quarterback threw like 990 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: a half dozen interceptions, you might want to try and 991 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: correct that. Hence the trade for Joe Flacco. That was 992 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 2: probably a sure moment. 993 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,280 Speaker 4: So here's my question. What are the chances the Cardinals 994 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 4: see Joe Flacco in week seventeen? 995 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: Pretty? I mean, based on what we've heard about Joe Burrow, 996 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably fifty to fifty. Right. 997 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 4: Well, but see here's the other thing. If they that's 998 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 4: if he's winning. If he's not winning and Burrow can't 999 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 4: come back, do they go back to Browning? 1000 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 2: By then all we care about about at this point, Darren, 1001 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 2: is what's the weather going to be like on the 1002 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: sideline in Cincinnati? That's the week seventeen. 1003 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,439 Speaker 4: What's it going to be like in Indy? 1004 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, thankfully there's a roof speaking of India. Is 1005 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 2: anybody going to say anything about the Colts? I mean, 1006 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 2: we've heard about dive bars, and we've heard about the 1007 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Blue anything else about the game? 1008 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 4: Jones I covered. I covered Michael Pittman senior when he 1009 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 4: played running back for the Cardinals. 1010 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is this is a balanced Indianapolis offense. 1011 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 3: They're averaging almost four hundred yards a game. They're averaging 1012 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: nine yards a pass, and they've got a beast in 1013 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor coming out of the backfield, especially with a 1014 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 3: really impressive rookie tight end Tyler out of Penn States. 1015 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 4: There you go, we come full circle. You can make 1016 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 4: you happy and Jack Gershman happy about Tyler Warren. 1017 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. 1018 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 3: I mean the Cardinal Steve. You're gonna have to figure 1019 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: out who you're going to focus on, and it's going 1020 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 3: to be tough when you're facing a balanced offense. The 1021 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 3: way the Colts are looking, I mean, Daniel Jones having 1022 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: quite the resurgence of his career after spending the first 1023 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 3: six years in New York and then comes Indianapolis and 1024 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 3: it's like, well, were the Colts just a quarterback away 1025 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 3: this whole time? 1026 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 2: You know what? Yes, remember we went to the joint practice. 1027 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 2: There are lines of scrimmage were really good. They have weapons, 1028 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 2: they have dudes. 1029 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 4: Well that's why they signed Daniel Jones, I. 1030 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 2: Mean last year joint practice. Like, man, if they only 1031 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 2: had a quarterback, it's to be a pretty dang good team. 1032 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,240 Speaker 4: If the Vikings have been able to keep Daniel Jones. 1033 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 2: By the way, I hear the last name Pittman, and 1034 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: I need to go into the gym and start doing 1035 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 2: some arm curls, you know, I start. I need to 1036 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: work on the biceps the last senior for sure, no doubt. Okay, 1037 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 2: that's going to take some time. 1038 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 3: Don't forget about the picks, Paul. Some of us did 1039 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 3: pretty well. 1040 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: You sure. Jim Momhunter is saying, well, out of time, 1041 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 2: we don't have time to go through the picks. 1042 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 4: Why do you fill us in? Danny? 1043 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 3: Sure, for the first time, Yeah, I do. For the 1044 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 3: first time ever, I am not in third place. Round 1045 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 3: of applause. Okay, I went nine and I went nine 1046 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: and four in my picks in week five. I don't 1047 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 3: really know how. I just kind of partially went off vibes, 1048 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 3: which was the right way to do it. Both Darren 1049 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 3: and Paul went six and seven. 1050 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 4: So Paul, I thought I was going to go winless. 1051 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 3: Paul, you are now at forty five and twenty seven. 1052 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 3: I am at forty six and twenty six, and Darren 1053 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 3: is at forty seven to twenty five. So I am 1054 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 3: knocking on the door. 1055 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: Darren, I thought I was going to get out of here, 1056 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, Bully for you munching on a dub Jameis 1057 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: Winston style, but I on my watch, I had to 1058 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: take an l before it was done. I had to. 1059 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: It's just mean, you know, wouldn't be wouldn't be Cardinals 1060 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation without Yours 1061 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 2: True at least taking one loss, as Danny was sure 1062 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 2: to get it in right under the Once again, another 1063 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 2: Cardinals production goes down to the wire, and we'll see 1064 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 2: you next week on Cardinals upgrownd Fit's Blue