WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: The Civil War False Flag

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. Hey everybody, Molly here, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a new episode for you this week. I'm sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise I'll be back next week with a new

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<v Speaker 1>Weird Little Guy for you. This rerun is almost a

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<v Speaker 1>year old. The show is almost a year old. This

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<v Speaker 1>was the second ever episode of Weird Little Guys, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't been a listener from the beginning, it

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<v Speaker 1>might not be a rerun for you. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise I'll have something new for you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now, I hope you'll enjoy the story of Gerald,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who loved historical reenactment, sex dolls, and writing

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<v Speaker 1>online reviews of fast food restaurants. On October fourteenth to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, the Battle of Cedar Creek was happening all

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<v Speaker 1>over again. Originally fought on October nineteenth, eighteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>the crushing defeat meant Confederate troops could no longer maneuver

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<v Speaker 1>through the Shenandoah Valley to march on Washington, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Union victory was the last minute boost for Lincoln's reelection campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty three years later, as re enactors

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<v Speaker 1>in Middletown Virginia, milled around in their historically accurate wool

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<v Speaker 1>uniforms and replica weaponry, waiting for the battle to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them found an alarming anachronism in the Sutler's tent,

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<v Speaker 1>a pipe bomb. I'm Molly Conger, and this is weird,

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<v Speaker 1>little guys. The Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation has held their

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<v Speaker 1>annual re enactment of the battle since nineteen ninety, but

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen was a politically fraught time in America. On

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<v Speaker 1>August twelfth, twenty seventeen, the Unite the Right rally in Charlesville,

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia ended when a young rally attendee who kept a

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<v Speaker 1>framed picture of Adolph Hitler on his nightstand, ran his

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<v Speaker 1>car through a crowd of peaceful protesters marching on a

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<v Speaker 1>closed street. He injured dozens and killed Heather Hire. Images

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<v Speaker 1>of the crowd that day, with rally attendees carrying Confederate

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<v Speaker 1>flags and swastikas side by side, flooded the national consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>Most Americans heard the word antifa for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that week. The national conversation about Confederate monuments, which had

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<v Speaker 1>been simmering all year, boiled over the city council in Baltimore, Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>voted to remove their Confederate statues. Just two days later.

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<v Speaker 1>The same week, the mayor of Lexington, Kentucky, asked his

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<v Speaker 1>city council to approve the removal of the statues at

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<v Speaker 1>their courthouse. A Confederate monument in Hollywood Forever Cemetery in

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<v Speaker 1>LA was removed overnight. From Florida to California, Confederate monuments

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<v Speaker 1>were removed, toppled, and vandalized. No one wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next Charlottesville. Six days after the rally, officials in Manassas,

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<v Speaker 1>a small city outside of d C about two hours

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<v Speaker 1>north of Charlottesville, announced they were calling off the annual

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War Reenactment weekend scheduled for the end of August.

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Posts reported that the reenactors themselves were worried

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<v Speaker 1>the quote racially charged atmosphere around the country over whether

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<v Speaker 1>to remove Civil War monuments would lead to violence. So

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<v Speaker 1>the concern was not whether it was appropriate to continue

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating the Confederacy in the wake of the deadly rally,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather anxiety about the possibility that Antifa America's new

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<v Speaker 1>black clad boogeyman would target these events and these growing

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<v Speaker 1>fears of persecution from the radical left were confirmed on

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty third, when the Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation received

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<v Speaker 1>an ominous letter in the mail. Instead of a return haddress,

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<v Speaker 1>the envelope bore a symbol that was fresh in their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>a black circle containing a black flag overlaying a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>It was from Antifa. The letter inside read, you need.

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<v Speaker 2>To cancel your coming up celebration of the Civil War

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<v Speaker 2>on October thirteen, fourteen fifteen, twenty seventeen. If you choose

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<v Speaker 2>to continue with this farce of history that clearly celebrates

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<v Speaker 2>the war to keep African Americans in chains, then we

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<v Speaker 2>have no choice but to come in protest. We will

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<v Speaker 2>come and disrupt and cause problems for all those who

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<v Speaker 2>attend the atrocity of history. Several hundred of our supporters

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<v Speaker 2>will attend and slash tires, block traffic, harass patrons and reenactors.

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<v Speaker 2>We will make Charlottesville look like a Sunday picnic. Many

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<v Speaker 2>of us have dogs, so we'll bring dog feces to

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<v Speaker 2>throw on people. We will also throw cups of human urine.

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<v Speaker 2>We might resort to actually firing guns into the camps

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<v Speaker 2>and at the reenactors will put poison in the water.

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<v Speaker 2>You would use noise to disrupt the battles in sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>These events must stop. Our local organizer tells us he

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<v Speaker 2>is ready to go. You have been warned now. If

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<v Speaker 2>it is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Called off, we will destroy you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have less than one month to issue a cancelation

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<v Speaker 2>notice to it asap.

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<v Speaker 1>Days before the event in October, the Cedar Creek Battlefield

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<v Speaker 1>Foundation did announce publicly that they had received a threatening letter,

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<v Speaker 1>but that the event would go on with increased security,

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<v Speaker 1>and the details of the threat were not released, but

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<v Speaker 1>speculation immediately turned to the Culture War, and after the

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<v Speaker 1>bomb was discovered, the National Review wrote, the simplest and

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<v Speaker 1>most logical explanation is that this is a new, violent

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<v Speaker 1>extension of the effort to remove Confederate statues. The Federalists

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<v Speaker 1>lamented that history itself was becoming another casualty in the

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<v Speaker 1>culture War. The threatening letters continued for over a year,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming increasingly gruesome and terrifyingly specific, targeting members of the

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<v Speaker 1>board at Cedar Creek and their family members. Cedar Creek

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<v Speaker 1>had to cancel the reenactment in twenty eighteen after one

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<v Speaker 1>director of the Foundation resigned in fear for his family

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<v Speaker 1>safety when the letter writer threatened to put a bomb

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<v Speaker 1>under his mother's car. The new director started getting threats

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual violence against her young daughters. The mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>Gettysburg received a letter threatening to bomb the annual Gettysburg

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<v Speaker 1>Remembrance Day parade. Would Antifa stop at nothing to destroy history?

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<v Speaker 1>But it was at Antifa. It wasn't Antifa at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Gerald. Gerald Leonard Drake born in nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight in Michigan, loves the Civil War. In nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>his hometown paper, The port Here in Thymes, Harold wrote

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<v Speaker 1>an article about his dedication to reenactment. He'd gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>second job to save up the ten thousand dollars it

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<v Speaker 1>would cost him to transport Judith, his five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five pound replica Civil War canon, from Mission Wigan

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<v Speaker 1>to Columbus, Georgia for the Chattahoochee Heritage Festival. Judith the

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<v Speaker 1>Canon was named after his wife, Judy, who would file

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<v Speaker 1>for divorce the following year. When he married his third wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Donna in twenty ten, they took wedding photos in Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War era address at the Historic Adams County courthouse in Gettysburg.

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<v Speaker 1>They got two cats and named them Shiloh and Musket.

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<v Speaker 1>But the world was changing. The world of eighteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>falls further away every day, no matter how historically accurate

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<v Speaker 1>the brass buttons on your coat are. In twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>he posted a thread on a Civil War reenactment forum

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<v Speaker 1>about a living history event he'd recently participated in a

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<v Speaker 1>tour group. Was appalled that the re enactors, role playing

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<v Speaker 1>as soldiers reading aloud letters from home, read a letter

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<v Speaker 1>describing the brutal whipping of an enslaved person that was

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<v Speaker 1>riddled with racial slurs. Though he felt that the event

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<v Speaker 1>itself went well, he wrote that shit hit the fan

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards and the liberals in the group had a bitch

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<v Speaker 1>session about appropriate language.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what I'm asking here is, as living historians

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<v Speaker 2>and reenactors, aren't we supposed to do as good of

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<v Speaker 2>a job and impression of our ancestors as we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to get praise and accolades for doing a

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<v Speaker 2>great first person impression. Let me know if anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>is having this kind of trouble for being the best

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<v Speaker 2>you can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Surprisingly, even in twenty eleven, fellow users on the Civil

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<v Speaker 1>War message board disagreed with Gerald. Their reenactment groups is

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<v Speaker 1>committed as they were to historical accuracy, did not use

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<v Speaker 1>the N word. One user, whose profile bears the badge

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<v Speaker 1>for Member of the Year wrote that he is quote

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<v Speaker 1>careful to avoid certain language in terms, always realizing that

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<v Speaker 1>my performance is in the present century. To modern day

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<v Speaker 1>folks who live in the present, it would not understand

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<v Speaker 1>the customs, practices, and language of the nineteenth century with

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<v Speaker 1>any real clarity. Another user, a former moderator of the forum,

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<v Speaker 1>replied to a comment from Drake that he was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a less PC group, wrote that he can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>there is any group out there that would condone that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of language, and all this achieves his bad publicity

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<v Speaker 1>for reenactors, adding that those tourists surely all went home

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<v Speaker 1>that day and told their friends about the racists they

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<v Speaker 1>saw at the event. A year later, Drake posted again

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<v Speaker 1>in the same Civil War forum, complaining that people are

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<v Speaker 1>getting too hung up on safety, writing remember when reenacting

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<v Speaker 1>used to be fun and mourning the old days when

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<v Speaker 1>battle reenactments were more like real battle. Again. Fellow reenactors

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<v Speaker 1>pushed back with one veteran reenactor, writing that he did

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<v Speaker 1>indeed remember those days. He'd once had a costume ruined

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<v Speaker 1>and gotten pretty serious burns when another reenactor shot him

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<v Speaker 1>with a replica shotgun. Even in his chosen community of

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War reenactors, Gerald was living in a version of

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<v Speaker 1>the past that was becoming increasingly lonely. In October of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, things really started to fall apart. His third

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<v Speaker 1>marriage was on the rocks, and after what sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty petty dispute, Gerald was kicked out of his

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War reenactment unit as a volunteer at the Cedar

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<v Speaker 1>Creek Battlefield. He'd heard a rumor that someone was planning

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak into the reenactment without paying the registration fee.

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald and his friend and fellow reenactor Daryl found this

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<v Speaker 1>to be an outrageous offense and decided to print up

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<v Speaker 1>flyers letting everyone know that Duffy Miller wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>pay his entry fee and anyone who sees him should

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<v Speaker 1>stop him. Duffy Miller, as it turns out, was their

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<v Speaker 1>unit commander, and he was not pleased to see the posters.

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<v Speaker 1>He kicks Gerald and Daryl out of the unit. Jerald

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<v Speaker 1>continued volunteering at Cedar Creek, but it seems this incident

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of his love for reenacting. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find exactly how much it cost to register for

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<v Speaker 1>the event in twenty fourteen, but the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>registration fee is thirty five dollars, and I know from

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<v Speaker 1>the forum post that's actually been increased in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years to cover the new security measures that

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<v Speaker 1>they have to have, So you have to assume it

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<v Speaker 1>was much less ten years ago. So the inciting incident

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<v Speaker 1>for this entire debacle was a couple of old guys

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<v Speaker 1>fighting about twenty bucks and the sanctity of Confederate reenactment.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, so what's a guy to do now, First

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<v Speaker 1>they stop letting him say the N word, You're not

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<v Speaker 1>even allowed to shoot each other anymore, and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out of his unit entirely, a hobby he'd loved

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<v Speaker 1>since the early nineties was being ruined. They weren't saying

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<v Speaker 1>like wokeness back then, but I think if this happened today,

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald would say that it was being ruined by woke

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<v Speaker 1>He'd been left by three wives and now his own

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<v Speaker 1>civil war unit didn't want him around, but he continued

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering at Cedar Creek. He retired, He built and little models,

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<v Speaker 1>He got into model rockets. He traveled the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>he posted a lot, and apparently he held on to

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<v Speaker 1>his anger about that incident at the twenty fourteen Cedar

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<v Speaker 1>Creek Reenactment. I spent a lot of time combing through

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of pages of court documents, years and years of

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<v Speaker 1>his posts on forums, but I can't quite sort out

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<v Speaker 1>what the catalyst was in twenty seventeen. Why did he

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<v Speaker 1>wait three years to put that bomb at Cedar Creek.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he saw the news about the Manassas Reenactment getting

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<v Speaker 1>canceled out of fear of political violence at the wake

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<v Speaker 1>up Unite the Right and just got an idea, because

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<v Speaker 1>within weeks of that news story, Gerald started writing letters.

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<v Speaker 1>After his first letter to the Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>in September, he followed up by placing an actual bomb

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<v Speaker 1>at the event in October. The reenactment community is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>small and the bomb was big news, but a rumor

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<v Speaker 1>was going around on Facebook that a teenager had been

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<v Speaker 1>arrested for the original letter, and then that was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of conflated. As you know, people are posting and reposting

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about the post that they saw. It was

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<v Speaker 1>conflated to the idea that someone had been arrested for

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<v Speaker 1>the bomb, and the rumor was very quickly disproven. No

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<v Speaker 1>one was arrested, replacing the bomb in the vendor's tent,

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<v Speaker 1>But the letter writer was frustrated. If they thought the

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<v Speaker 1>culprit had been apprehended, they wouldn't be afraid anymore. John Buchheister,

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<v Speaker 1>a vendor at the event who told a reporter that

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<v Speaker 1>he was present when the bomb was found, was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the posters in that Facebook rumor mill And there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing malicious here. He just reposted something that someone else

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<v Speaker 1>had said that the would be bomber had been apprehended.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was a lot of relief in believing that,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of people were posting it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess our letter writer saw John Buchheister's post because on

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<v Speaker 1>November thirteenth, twenty seventeen, he opened a letter addressed to

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<v Speaker 1>his home in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Like the first letter, the

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<v Speaker 1>envelope was printed with the ANTIFA symbol in place of

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<v Speaker 1>a return address, inside a typed letter read.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for putting on Facebook that a

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<v Speaker 2>teenager was arrested for the threat to Cedar Creek. It

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<v Speaker 2>was so much easier to bring in a bomb do

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<v Speaker 2>something like this again for us. We are coming to

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<v Speaker 2>Gettysburg parade and speech. Thank you again for all your

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<v Speaker 2>help in the last terror event.

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<v Speaker 1>That same week, a local newspaper in Gettysburg received a

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<v Speaker 1>letter threatening the upcoming Gettysburg Remembrance Day parade. The letter

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<v Speaker 1>threatened to drive trucks through the crowd at the parade,

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<v Speaker 1>a troubling callback to the still recent vehicular murderer Unite

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<v Speaker 1>the Right, and threatened to put sharpshooters in windows and

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<v Speaker 1>on rooftops. The letter writer ended the note by giving

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<v Speaker 1>a detailed description of the bomb at Cedar Creek quote

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<v Speaker 1>for proof that we did the sea terror attack. But

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<v Speaker 1>just as Cedar Creek had not canceled when they were threatened,

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<v Speaker 1>the Gettysburg Rememberance Day parade was not canceled that year,

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<v Speaker 1>but the route was significantly shortened to allow for a

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<v Speaker 1>heavy police presence. S Chris Anders, a Republican political activist,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote on Facebook, apparently Antifa and other hate groups are

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<v Speaker 1>headed to try and cause problems this Saturday at the

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<v Speaker 1>annual Remembrance Day parade, but he wrote that he would

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<v Speaker 1>be marching with his brothers in gray rather than giving

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<v Speaker 1>in to terrorists. There are nearly one hundred comments on

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<v Speaker 1>this Facebook post, mostly agreeing that Dantifa must be stopped

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<v Speaker 1>or offering questionable safety tips, like advising that you should

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<v Speaker 1>use a wool scarf to protect yourself from tear gas.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to assume that would only make things worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like wool is very absorbent. But one loan commenter,

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<v Speaker 1>a reenactor from New England who rides with the First

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<v Speaker 1>Main Cavalry, had a different theory. He wrote, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you five dollars that the perpetrator is a reenactor or

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<v Speaker 1>former reenactor. No offense to anyone, but no one knows

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<v Speaker 1>about rem Day beyond reenactors and locals. For it to

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<v Speaker 1>be a target, someone would have to be aware of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are plenty of other high profile, low security

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<v Speaker 1>events with bigger crowd numbers to choose. From his comment,

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<v Speaker 1>drew ire from the victimized Confederates, obsessed with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of a massive conspiracy from the radical left. He was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course correct and now here's where things start to

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<v Speaker 1>get really weird. Just some truly inexplicable behavior with deep

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<v Speaker 1>weird roots. I mean, I guess that's the show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's weird. But here's where it takes its super

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<v Speaker 1>weird turn. Gerald is retired at this point, and when

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<v Speaker 1>he's not traveling, he's volunteering. He's still volunteering at Cedar

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<v Speaker 1>Creek even though he doesn't reenact anymore. But he's also

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering at sky Meadows State Park. It's not entirely clear

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<v Speaker 1>why a registered sex offender was allowed to volunteer at

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<v Speaker 1>the state park alongside a high school student, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it says in the affidavit. So I guess that

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<v Speaker 1>one fell through the cracks at sky Meadows because while

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<v Speaker 1>he did successfully petition to get himself removed from the

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<v Speaker 1>sex offender registry in twenty twenty one, in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the background check required for volunteers at state parks would

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<v Speaker 1>have shown that he was a registered sex offender for

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand and four conviction in Ohio for sexual

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<v Speaker 1>imposition and child endangerment. And again, I'll be so clear

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<v Speaker 1>with you right up front, there's no allegation that Drake

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in any inappropriate sexual conduct as a volunteer anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>not at the state park, not anywhere. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>time period of these events, there's no allegation that he's

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<v Speaker 1>touching any children or engaging in any inappropriate sexual conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not just telling you he's a registered sex

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<v Speaker 1>offender to sort of point and laugh at that. As

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<v Speaker 1>a circumstance, these things intersect. So in twenty eighteen, he's

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering at the park with this teenage boy, and one

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon in February, they're volunteering together. They're shooting the shit

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<v Speaker 1>fill in the time, and Gerald, who is sixty at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, is telling this teenage boy about his hobby

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<v Speaker 1>of Civil War reenactment, which is very tragically in decline.

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<v Speaker 1>The topic of the twenty seventeen reenactment at Cedar Creek

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<v Speaker 1>comes up. I have to assume Gerald brought it up,

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<v Speaker 1>because why would the seventeen year old boy have brought

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<v Speaker 1>that up. But Gerald is telling the kid about some

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.760
<v Speaker 1>funny articles about that twenty seventeen event. He later emailed

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<v Speaker 1>the teenager what appeared to be photographs of newspaper clippings

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<v Speaker 1>about the bombing. But in these articles the bomb went off.

0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.960
<v Speaker 1>The articles he emails this tea nag contained details of

0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the bomb actually killing people, with more deaths caused by

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<v Speaker 1>subsequent sniper fire. But we know the bomb didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>go off. No one got shot, no one got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing really happened. The articles he showed his young friend

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<v Speaker 1>were completely fake. The federal agents investigating the case wrote

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<v Speaker 1>that attempts to locate sources for these fake newspaper clippings

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<v Speaker 1>turned up nothing. I mean, not even anything online showing

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.320
<v Speaker 1>these fake articles. Nothing, there's nothing. He must have made

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>them himself, and that's where his sex offender status ties

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<v Speaker 1>back in. In two thousand and three, he was indicted

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<v Speaker 1>in Auglaize County, Ohio for gross sexual imposition, and shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after he's indicted, someone start sending weird letters to the

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<v Speaker 1>Auglais County prosecutor. The letters were made to appear as

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<v Speaker 1>though they were sent by a member of the police

0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 1>department in Drake's hometown of Port Huron, Michigan, and they

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to prove that Drake's second wife was a child abuser.

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<v Speaker 1>The letter writer sent a forged polygraph report on Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>State Police letterhead and a forged notarized statement from Drake's

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<v Speaker 1>estranged wife, and when his home was eventually searched, police

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<v Speaker 1>found a doctored page from the local newspaper. He had

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<v Speaker 1>taken an actual newspaper and manually altered it with a

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<v Speaker 1>false news story about his estranged second wife, Susan, pleading

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<v Speaker 1>guilty to child abuse and endangerment. No such news story

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<v Speaker 1>ever existed, and I can find no evidence that Susan

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<v Speaker 1>was ever charged with such a crime. Maybe a more

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.520
<v Speaker 1>thorough journalist would have pushed harder for the details here,

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<v Speaker 1>but court cases involving sexual abuse of a minor tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be completely closed. Those documents are sealed unless someone

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in those hearings, and there's local news reports

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<v Speaker 1>about the testimony. You're just you're not going to find it,

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<v Speaker 1>and short of reaching out to the parties involved, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way from me to know exactly what led to

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald Drake being convicted of sexual imposition and child endangerment

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<v Speaker 1>or why he tried to frame his strange wife for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell you that after his conviction, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a note on the docket that the judge prohibited Drake

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<v Speaker 1>from contacting his second ex wife and her minor daughter

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<v Speaker 1>from a prior marriage. So I think we can get

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<v Speaker 1>the gist of the situation without me asking a young

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<v Speaker 1>woman why her stepdad, a man now in prison for

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<v Speaker 1>making a bomb, was court ordered to stay away from

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<v Speaker 1>her when she was ten. Take from that what you will.

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<v Speaker 1>The relevant kernel of that story, though, is those fake

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>newspaper articles. In two thousand and three, he's manually cutting

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and pasting by hand and xeroxing his creations to disguise

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the alterations. He's arts and craftsing his way into an

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>alternate reality where his ex wife is the one in

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<v Speaker 1>dangering children, not him. And in twenty eighteen, he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>it again. He's making fake newspaper clippings about what he

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>wished were real. He's showing this teenage boy a reality

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<v Speaker 1>where the bomb did go off and the people who

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>snubbed him died. And while he was in jail for

0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 1>that sex offense a short eight months in an Ohio

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:18.199
<v Speaker 1>County jail, he made another art project of sorts. In

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<v Speaker 1>September two thousand and four, the Auglais County Sheriff's office

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to the FBI Field office in Cleveland. Gerald

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<v Speaker 1>had been trying to make friends in jail by showing

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<v Speaker 1>off his knowledge of explosives. He produced eight pages of

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<v Speaker 1>hand drawn diagrams and instructions for creating a pipe bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>a CO two cartridge bomb, a Coleman fuel bomb, a

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<v Speaker 1>propane tank bomb, and diagrams about how to modify the

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of inert grenades you can buy as antiques or

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<v Speaker 1>at the Army surplus store, and how to turn them

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<v Speaker 1>back into live grenades. And the diagram of the pipe

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<v Speaker 1>bomb he drew in jail in two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 1>is remarkably similar to the device he made in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't appear that anything ever came of the incident

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<v Speaker 1>in the jail back in two thousand and four. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sheriff's office contact of the FBI, and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got these weird drawings. What do you guys think

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>about this. There's no indication that there was follow up

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 1>from there, but apparently they held on to them. Those

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<v Speaker 1>drawings remained in a filing cabinet somewhere in Ohio for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. It's kind of surprising that they still had

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<v Speaker 1>those drawings in twenty nineteen, but they are included in

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<v Speaker 1>the affidavit for the search warrant, so in the spring

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty eighteen, he seems pretty content with his hobbies.

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<v Speaker 1>He's making fake newspaper articles about his bomb going off

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<v Speaker 1>and showing them to a kid he volunteers with based

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<v Speaker 1>on his eBay review history. He's painting miniature models of

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<v Speaker 1>Godzilla and Frankenstein, both five stars from Gerald, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting into model rocketry. In March, he took a solo

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<v Speaker 1>vacation to Amsterdam. His trip Advisor account provides a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>robust log of his travels. He wasn't a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jewish History Museum, titling his review not really

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<v Speaker 1>for Gentiles and writing that he felt shorted by the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of artifacts from the death camps at the Holocaust Museum.

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<v Speaker 1>He felt that it had been quote scrubbed of shock

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<v Speaker 1>due to the new PC way all museums are going.

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>He felt the same way about the Dutch Resistance Museum,

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<v Speaker 1>writing if you were looking for the story of the

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>full account of atrocities done on the citizens, well this

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<v Speaker 1>display doesn't have it it. Like many museums today have

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<v Speaker 1>had to lighten up on their truth so as not

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<v Speaker 1>to offend anyone. He did, however, really enjoy the Museum

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<v Speaker 1>of Prostitution and his visit to the Red Light District.

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<v Speaker 1>In a later post on a forum for sex doll owners,

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<v Speaker 1>he boasted that he is familiar with the female condoms

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>he uses to keep his dolls clean because he's used

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<v Speaker 1>them in European brothels. And for what it's worth, the

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Anne frank House got his seal of approval as a

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>World War II history buff. He loved the Ripley's Believe

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>It or Not Museum, and he was deeply upset that

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<v Speaker 1>his hostel did not provide a t additional American breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>with quote hot meats. I don't know why you would

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>expect a cheap hostel in Amsterdam to have American breakfast,

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>but he was not satisfied, and just as an aside

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>about his trip Advisor reviews, I think that was my

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>favorite thing about researching this. He loves to review the

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<v Speaker 1>cell site location data in one of the search warrant

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>affidavits shows that he likely dropped off that very first

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<v Speaker 1>threat letter at a USPS drop box in a strip

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<v Speaker 1>mall near the Dulles Airport just before boarding an Air

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>France flight from DC to Madrid on September twenty first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. So while his letter threatening to throw piss

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<v Speaker 1>and shit at Civil War reenactors was making its way

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<v Speaker 1>to Cedar Creek, he was on his way to Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>He hated the bullfighting, but he raved about the burger

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>king on Plaza de Castilla. Apparently the burger king at

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<v Speaker 1>home is always getting his order wrong. He had to

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<v Speaker 1>go all the way to Spain to get his whopper

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>with no onions and no pickle. The burger king in

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<v Speaker 1>his hometown only gets four stars from Gerald. And since

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>visiting Italy in April twenty seventeen, he rated four different

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Italian restaurants in Winchester, Virginia, based on how the pizza

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>measures up to the pizza in Rome is given out

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>two just like Rome's, and two were failures according to Gerald.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>So maybe he's done. Maybe it's out of his system.

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<v Speaker 1>Three threatening letters and one bomb that didn't go off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's back to his hobbies. But on June nineteenth,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, his local newspaper ran a story about the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming reenactment at Cedar Creek. The event was just four

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<v Speaker 1>months away and the board of directors wanted everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>know that the reenactment weekend would have additional security after

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<v Speaker 1>the incident the year before. Days after the paper ran

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<v Speaker 1>that story, a pair of identical letters were mailed to

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper, the Winchester Star and the Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the first letters, the envelopes had a symbol where

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>the return address should be, But for some reason, these

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<v Speaker 1>letters a version of the anti fascist symbol with the

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>red flag on top and the black flag behind, which

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>is reversed from the original letters. I think he probably

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<v Speaker 1>just downloaded a new image and didn't notice that it

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>was different. I don't think he realized he was signaling

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>a preference for anarchism over communism, or vice versa. You know,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>both versions of that symbol exist and are perfectly real

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and valid and are used by different people, but they

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>are in fact different symbols and do mean something slightly different.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Gerald knew that. And this time both

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>letters were addressed to Joe Derezzo, the president of the

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>foundation's board, and they threatened to kill his mother with

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>a car bomb if he didn't call off the reenactment

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>in October. Dereza later told agents that he took the

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>threat seriously enough that he began checking underneath his mother's

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>car for explosive devices. But the language in the letters

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>was odd and oddly specific. Though the Winchester Star article

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't actually mention what those increased security measures would be,

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the letter writers seemed to know. One of the private

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>discussions the board had was about banning spectators from bringing

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>bags of any kind to the event, but they were

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 1>worried that this would be an issue for people like

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>parents with diaper bags. The letter writer said there were

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>quote many ways for us to sneak in a surprise,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>specifically mentioning putting a bomb inside of a diaper bag.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>And the board had also quietly been in contact with

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the local sheriff's office about providing metal detectors, and the

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>letter writer seemed to know this too, boasting that he'd

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>already outsmarted their security.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>We now have plastic bombs, so metal detectors are useless.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>We have found a man that's going to pose as

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>an enactor to drive in some kind of fertilizer bomb.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>We have coolers, thermoses, water bottles, all made into small IEDs.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>And in the completely real and very serious way that

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>real Antifa terror cells sign off their terror some threat letters.

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>The letter writer explained why the bomb didn't work in

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>We are the ones that did it to you last year.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>We used a bad bomb guy. His mercury switch and

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>rocket launch wire didn't work on the pipe bomb covered

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>in nuts. Just so you know we are real and returning.

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just so you know we're real. Okay, it's such

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>a weird mess, but silly or not. The letters recipient

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was terrified they were threatening to blow up his mom,

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and there really was a real bomb the year before,

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know he's not bluffing. You already know he

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>really can build a bomb. So you can't laugh it

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>off while it's happening. But in hindsight, what a goofy

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>ass sign off? Just so you know, we had a

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>bad bomb guy last year, but we're very real and

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>we fixed that. Okay, we're real. A sixth letter, the

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>third in this second batch, was sent to John Buchheister,

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that vendor in Pennsylvania who had spoken to the media

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>about being there when the bomb was discovered in twenty seventeen.

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>He'd gotten a letter in the first batch too, thanking

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>him for spreading that rumor that someone had been arrested

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>for placing the bomb. Confusingly, the letter he got in

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>July twenty eighteen was addressed to Joe, just like the

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>letter sent to Joe Derezo the same week, and it

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be speaking to Joe Derezzo asking for him

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>to call off the event, which presumably Durezzo could do

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>as president of the board. But John Buchheister is just

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a guy in Pennsylvania who sells antiques and Civil War reproductions.

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>This letter, like the others, threatened to kill Derezo's mother.

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Since we can't seem to get to to stop this

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>celebration of a war to keep men in chains, maybe

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>if we go after your volunteers that help out, you

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>will stop this. I like the idea of burning your

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.479
<v Speaker 2>mother alive in a car bomb.

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Days after these letters were received, the Foundation announced on

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>July third, twenty eighteen, they were calling off the reenactment

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in October. You know, they got that letter in twenty

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>seventeen and they decided we're going to soldier On, We're

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>going to have the event, and then there was a

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>real bomb. People were really in danger. So when they

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>got this second set of letters. In the middle of

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, they decided, we got to call it off.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not safe. What if the bomb goes off this year.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>We know this guy's not bluffing, we know he got

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a bomb in the tent last year. We can't risk it.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And on the Civil War Talk Forum, that online forum

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>where Gerald's been posting for years, reactions were mixed. A

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of users agreed that it was the right thing

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to do. It's just not worth the risk people bring

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>their children, their families. Others didn't think it was right

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to let the terrorists win, with one poster noting that

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>he never stopped going to NASCAR races after nine to eleven.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that NASCAR was like a big target

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>for al Qaida, but he's been carrying that weight for years,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess. But some posters were starting to ask questions

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like why Cedar Creek and why only Cedar Creek. It's

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>not the largest or most high profile reenactment, even in

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>just the immediate area. I mean, I don't know if

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you've ever spent time in Virginia, but most of that

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>part of Virginia just is as hip will wear a

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>battlefield every town has When every town has a plaque

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and Cedar Creek was a Union victory, wouldn't these people

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>be happier targeting a reenactment of a Confederate win. And then,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>after pages and pages of going back and forth about

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>this decision on the forum, Gerald himself weighed in.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I volunteer at Cedar Creek from what we have been told,

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>and this is not for general release. The foundation has

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>received threats of bodily harm to the board members. They're

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>families and everyone that helps out. Then there is the

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>very high cost of security. It is sad that we

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 2>live in a world with such a hostile climate to

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 2>the Confederacy, and PS has taken battle flags out of

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 2>all its stores, and statues are being taken down here

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>in Virginia, schools, streets, parks, anything named about the Confederacy

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 2>is being changed. I do not know if they will

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 2>officially announce the reason or reasons for this decision. Last

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>year they refused to say much, and rumors were all

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>over the place. We all need to maybe send some

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>money to the foundation for expenses, as this was their

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 2>only way of raising funds. With the fall of so

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 2>many Confederate symbols and events going by the wayside, I

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>now can feel what my ancestors did when the actual

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Confederacy fell.

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>So he is victim and perpetrator here lingering in the

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>comment section, watching his fellow Civil War enthusiasts argue about

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>how the community should respond to what he has done.

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like in every police procedural drama where the killer

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>returns to the scene of the crime just to take

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in the aftermath and again, just as suddenly as the

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>letters began, they stopped again. He got what he wanted.

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>The event was canceled in October, just before the now

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>canceled event would have been approaching, Joe Derezo resigned as

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>head of the foundation's board. He didn't feel the board

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>was taking the threat seriously enough, although it's unclear what

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>discussions were taking place behind closed doors because there'd been

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>no threats in several months and the event was already canceled,

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what prompted him to resign just then.

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>In October and the local paper, The Winchester Star, ran

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>an article about Derezo's resignation, and like clockwork, a few

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>days after the article ran, the letter started up again.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>The foundation got a letter addressed to Deurezzo, who again

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>had just resigned, saying we're sorry to see you go,

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and moving on to threatening the foundation's new acting director,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeanette Schaeffer, and I'm sorry it gets gross here. I mean,

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.479
<v Speaker 1>none of this was good, but it gets gross again.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm always on the fence about repeating things like this, right,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Like is this just for shock value? Does this add

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>information to the story? Do you need to know exactly

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>what he said in order for the story to make sense?

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>But given his prior conviction for a crime of a

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 1>sexual nature involving a young girl, I think it does matter.

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't just saying whatever he thought would be the

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>scariest and the nastiest, Like this kind of ties back

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>into his own past. The letter writer told Derezo that

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 1>his quote pretty mother and bald headed dad were safe

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>now that he'd resigned, But quote, if Jeanette Schaeffer thinks

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>she is safe, well she is right, but her children

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>are not. If she puts together a reenactment to celebrate

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>keeping men in chains, we will come after her girls.

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>We have a convicted rapist that was love to introduce

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>them to his penis. There are letters that are a

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>lot more graphic than this. When it comes to the

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 1>sexual threats to those girls, it's in the court record.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>If you're interested in that, I don't see the value

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in proceeding further. You get it at this point. But again,

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>even though these letters are obviously very frightening, there's something

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>off about them. The letter writer seems to know way

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>too much about the specific inner workings of the Cedar

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Creek Battlefield Foundation. He knows a lot about the personal

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>lives of these individuals and the way that they interact

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>in this space, and the way they run this organization,

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 1>which again is not large. This is not a massive,

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>significant operation. This is a pretty small, regional, annual event.

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.720
<v Speaker 1>One of the letters in this batch threatened to shoot

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a man named Pat as he opens up the visitor

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.399
<v Speaker 1>center in the morning, and members of the board told

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>federal investigators that since those threats in June, the visitor

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>center was only open on a limited basis, and not

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>many people knew about that. You'd have to be really

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>close to the operation to know that Pat, who is

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the board's only full time employee, sometimes opened up the

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>visitor center in the morning alone. And the letter tried

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to cast blame on a ract in the organization, claiming

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that their inside knowledge came from a man named Sean Mowbray.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>But Mowbray hadn't been a volunteer with the organization since

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. But in twenty fourteen, Mowbray was at the

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>center of that dispute that got Gerald kicked out of

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>his re enactment unit. And it's not just the letters

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that seemed to be escalating in intensity. The same way

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.439
<v Speaker 1>he sent that letter threatening to rape those girls, Drake

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>posted on the subredit for his hometown of Winchester, Virginia,

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>asking for recommendations for a good lawyer. He owned a

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of antique and reproduction firearms and was an enthusiastic

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>hobbyist in black powder weapons, but he wanted a real gun,

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>a gun that shoots real bullets, and when he went

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to buy one, the store refused to sell him anything

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>after pulling a background check. Now, his own account of

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 1>the situation is sort of murky and one sided, and

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the details I've been able to verify indicate

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that he's not telling the truth. But it appears that

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>despite having no felony record, that's true his conviction for

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>child endangerment comes up on his record as a domestic

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>violence conviction, so they wouldn't sell him a gun because

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>of that. There's no information in any of the hundreds

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of pages of court documents I read that gives me

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>any real insight into why he may have wanted to

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>buy a gun that week in particular. But if I

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>were one of the people who had gotten one of

0:38:54.360 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>those letters, that timing would take my breath away. He

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>also traveled to Paris thought October, somehow squeezing it into

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>his busy schedule of threatening letters. He loved the Louver

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.720
<v Speaker 1>and Notre Dame, noting in his review that the movie

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>The Hunchback of Notre Dame really doesn't do it justice,

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and he visited several notable World War two historical sites.

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>He'd posted on Readit earlier that month that he was

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking of getting into World War II re enacting because

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>the Civil War scene was dying out. McDonald's and Five

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Guys in Paris both got four stars from Gerald, with

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>run review saying seeing McDonald's in Paris was like seeing

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>an old friend to me. Cheap and consistent food that

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is the same flavor around the world, fair enough, But

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>when he got home, it was back to business, firing

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>off a letter to the mayor of Gettysburg on Halloween,

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>again threatening to bomb the annual parade. The letter demanded

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that the mayor quote canceled the flying of Confederate flags

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and posted on Facebook, then we will leave you alone.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't and someone is going to die. The ninth and

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>final letter was sent to the Cedar Greek Battlefield Foundation

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>after the embattled organization announced in December twenty eighteen that

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they would be holding the reenactment in twenty nineteen. This

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>letter was addressed to Pat, the foundation's only full time employee,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>that guy that opens the visitor center sometimes. The letter

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>asked him, would you like to bury your sister? Your brother?

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:30.959
<v Speaker 1>We could also just kill you when you sit alone

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in the visitor center. We have a guy that likes

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 1>to rape. We could send him to visit your sister.

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>What followed were some sexual threats against the director's daughter

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that really aren't fit to repeat the I mean, they're gross.

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely the most specific letter in terms of the

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>actions being threatened and the particular victims being threatened in

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>a way that feels specific enough to be alarming. What

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>makes a quote unquote true threat. In the eyes of

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the law is kind of a moving target. You never

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 1>really know where the line is where a federal prosecutor

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is going to say, I'm taking that one to a

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>grand jury. But in my experience reading cases like this,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>mailing someone a letter that tells them exactly, when, where,

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and how you plan to kill them, that's usually pretty serious.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>The law does not like to see that. But by

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>this time, the defense already know it's Gerald. By the

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>time Pat is reading this absolutely unhinged letter threatening to

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>rape and kill his sister, the FBI has already gotten

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Gerald's phone records from Sprint. They've been conducting physical surveillance,

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>with an FBI agent following him to his storage unit

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and then returning later with a bomb dog to sniff

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 1>around the door. And again suddenly the letter stopped. But

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>this time there's no explanation. When the letter stopped before

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>it was because he got something that he wanted, but

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this time they just stop. In a letter to the

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>court before his sentencing, Gerald claims he came to his

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>senses sometime in December twenty eighteen and realized that what

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>he was doing was wrong. It seems a little bit

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>more likely to me that one of the FBI agents

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>following him around said something to him. And that's not uncommon.

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I've read plenty of threatening communications cases where the agent

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 1>writing the affidavit describes his first conversation with a guy

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>about threatening to behead a senator or something. Sometimes they'll

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>come to a guy's door and say, hey, did you

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>post this? Because you can't do that, don't do it again.

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>And the only reason we're reading the affidavit is because

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy didn't stop posting. So the next conversation had

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a very different tone. And I don't know if that's

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>what happened here. It doesn't say. And for as insanely

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:55.439
<v Speaker 1>detailed as the documents supporting these search warrants are, there's

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>some really important details missing right here. If they were

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>following him around in November of twenty eighteen, while these

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.879
<v Speaker 1>letters are still being sent, why wasn't he arrested until

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. It's clear they spent all of twenty

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen investigating the case. There are search warn't applications here

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for his phone, his storage unit, his house, his Google account,

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and warrant served on his cell phone provider for his

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>cell location data. The warrants were executed at various times

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>throughout twenty nineteen, with the physical search of his home

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and his storage unit happening in October twenty nineteen, and

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>they have him dead to rights. The cell site location

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>data puts him at the mailboxes where the letters were

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>mailed on the days that they were mailed. For some

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>of the letters, he drove out of state to mail

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 1>them far from his home, So we have the GPS

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:49.760
<v Speaker 1>coordinates showing him leaving his home in Winchester, Virginia, driving

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to a strip mall in Pennsylvania where there's a USPS

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>drop box, and then coming back home. And we know

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that on the days that he did that, the letter

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>was picked up that mailbox and processed at that sorting facility,

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's there's not a lot of other explanations for

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>why he's driving to these mailboxes on these days. And

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>they found the image file for that Antifa logo that

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was printed on the envelopes on a thumb drive in

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>his house. We have drone footage from the twenty seventeen

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>re enactment showing his car approaching the area where the

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>bomb was found shortly before it was placed there. But

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>they gathered all of this evidence. I mean more evidence

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>than I've ever seen laid out in documentation like this.

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean pages and pages of maps showing his GPS

0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>coordinates on the days the letters were mailed. They gathered

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>all this evidence, and they did nothing with it. The

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>documents associated with all of these search warrants were sealed.

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>That's normal. Usually you keep that sealed until the arrest

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>is made, so nobody knew that his house had been

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>searched except Gerald. I assume Gerald knew. I think he

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>had to know. But after six months, the ceiling order expired.

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 1>That can happen. I think in most cases they're sort

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of set to auto expire after a certain amount of time.

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>But you'll see in cases where they haven't made a

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>move yet, the prosecutor will apply to continue ceiling. It's

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>not uncommon. I think in this case, they must have

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 1>forgotten to file a motion to continue the ceiling. That's

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the only explanation I can think of for why they

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>would let these warrants get unsealed when they weren't ready

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to charge him. But the ceiling order expired and somebody

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>noticed immediately, because the very same day, Justin Rolick wrote

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>an article for Courts with the headline disgruntled Civil War

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 1>reenactor allegedly framed Antifa by fabricating threats against his unit.

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Journalists don'trite their own headlines, but somebody's got to do

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 1>something about that. That's a mouthful. And the next day

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post ran an article with the headline, a

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Civil war reenactment group got threats from Antique. It was

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a disgruntled actor. FBI says again the headlines, what are

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we doing, folks. But even after these two articles ran

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>in February of twenty twenty, the case sat still. Well,

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>because I can't say that because there was no case.

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>He hadn't been charged. He did retain an attorney at

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>this point, and she told the Washington Post that he

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>had no idea why he was being investigated, which, like comene, yes,

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you do, you do. And it wasn't until September of

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, just days before the five year statute

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of limitations would run out for that first letter sent

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 1>in September twenty seventeen, that Gerald Drake was indicted by

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a federal grand jury. The last bit of his Internet

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>activity I can find before his arrest on October six,

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two is a post he made the afternoon

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>before he spent a few hours replying to posts on

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>a forum for sextal enthusiasts, with his final message being

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>praised for a customer service representative named Patrice at a

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Canadian company called Sex Doll Queen. Patrese always answers his

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>emails and once sent him a free sex doll head

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>as compensation after ups damaged the case his doll arrived in.

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>There's no explanation for the nearly three years between solving

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>the case and arresting the perpetrator. And maybe it's like

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 1>those cases I mentioned before where they give a guy

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a talking to and they say, you know, if I

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>have to come back, it's game over, but you know,

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>just knock it off. But I've seen cases like that,

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and usually it's mentioned there will be some sort of

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>incident that brings the agent back to his door. But

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>there's no indication here of any new conduct, certainly no

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>charged conduct in the years between the search warrant and

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the arrest warrant. Right, So if they did all this work,

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>they search his house, you know, hypothetically they say to him, hey, Bud,

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>knock it off, or we have to charge you. If

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>that had happened, you would assume that there would be

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>some new incident, but there's not. Maybe it was a

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>change in office priorities, or somebody wanted this one close specifically,

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>And there was some turnover in the US Attorney's office

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in Virginia's Western District during that time period, but nothing

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that really coincides with this timeline. The assistant US attorney

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>whose name is on that warrant in twenty nineteen left

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.319
<v Speaker 1>to become a judge in March of twenty twenty one.

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>The US Attorney in the Western District left to become

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a judge in March twenty twenty. The current US attorney

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>was sworn in in October twenty twenty one. And that's

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of in and out, but none of that

0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>does anything to explain how this case got lost. From

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>October twenty nineteen to September of twenty twenty two, I

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>spent way too much time, like browsing press releases and

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 1>looking at LinkedIn pages and trying to sort of track

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the patterns in the federal indictments coming out of this

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>office to try to make these pieces fit together, and

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>they just don't. They don't. There's no obvious rationale for

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>this timeline, and I don't expect they're going to tell us.

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Drake pled guilty in April twenty twenty three in an

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>agreement that dropped most of the charges. He only had

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to plead guilty to one count of possessing an unregistered

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 1>explosive device and one count of stalking. The stalking count

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was specifically regarding the letter sent to Joe Derezo. Accounts

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 1>related to the letters sent to everybody else were dropped

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in exchange. And that's normal. This is really common. Data

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>published by the Pew Research Center last year shows nearly

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of people charged for the federal crime just

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>plead guilty. They take plea agreements. Eight percent of cases

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>end up dismissed, leaving only two point three percent of

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.399
<v Speaker 1>people charged with the federal crime who actually take their

0:49:54.400 --> 0:50:00.160
<v Speaker 1>case to trial. The system desperately needs people to plead guilt,

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>which is a huge motivator for overcharging. Right, you say

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to a guy, hey, we got you on twenty counts.

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>You're going away for one hundred and ten years, but hey,

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe we can make a deal for twenty years, and

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:13.840
<v Speaker 1>then you've saved the United States government, the cost of

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>a trial. It's not a great setup overall, right, that

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 1>our justice system requires that we not actually pursue justice,

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>because if everyone actually pursued justice in the form of

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the jury trial you're entitled to, the system would collapse.

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would fall apart instantly. Just something to

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think about. So when you look at this and you

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.880
<v Speaker 1>see that most of these charges got dropped, it's not

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.760
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't think they could prove those charges at trial.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>They just didn't want to pay for a trial, and

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:50.759
<v Speaker 1>nine years in prison is enough. So yes, technically he

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is only guilty legally of building the bomb and sending

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the letters to Joe Derezo threatening to blow up his mom.

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>The letters threatened to rate Pat's sister and Jeanette's daughters

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>are among those dropped counts. So in the eyes of

0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the federal government, he is not guilty on those counts,

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>not because he was acquitted. He was not found not guilty,

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.240
<v Speaker 1>but he is not guilty of them in the sense

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that he was not prosecuted for those they were dropped.

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Common sense and hundreds of pages of court documents lays

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>out a pretty convincing case that can lead you to

0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>your own conclusion, but the law is what the law is.

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>He is not guilty of those things. He's currently serving

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>his nine year sentence at the Federal Correctional Institute in Myeland, Michigan.

0:51:39.920 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 1>He asked for a placement in Michigan to be closer

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to his son. He'll be seventy two when he's released

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirty. The government has not yet responded to

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>his motion to seal certain case documents related to the

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.760
<v Speaker 1>dropped counts. He wrote a letter from prison in December

0:51:54.760 --> 0:52:00.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three that certain information in his indictment has

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:04.400
<v Speaker 1>caused problems for him when other inmates check his paperwork.

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get specific, but I assume the threats of

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>graphic sexual violence aren't exactly helping him win friends and

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>influence people, even if those counts were dropped in the

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>plea agreement. Again, he's not guilty of those things, but

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it's in the indictment. So in the end, it turns

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.400
<v Speaker 1>out Antifa never threatened to pour cups of piss on

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Confederate War reenactors or drive a car through the Gettysburg parade.

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:35.000
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0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:45.280
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