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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 2: are live in Fort Myers, Naples area from our radio

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Speaker 2: affiliate here ninety two five. They were flooded during the hurricane,

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Speaker 2: and we said we would come down here, draw attention

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Speaker 2: an event live tonight in Naples where we will be

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Speaker 2: with hundreds of you guys and hopefully helped to raise

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Speaker 1: Here we are.

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Speaker 2: Inside of the studios that many of you may have

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Speaker 2: seen that were completely flooded. They they are in the

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Speaker 2: process of rebuilding here in Fort Myers.

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Speaker 1: Again, appreciate all.

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Speaker 2: Of you listening on ninety two five in the southwest

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Speaker 2: Florida area. Okay, major breaking news that just happened about

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Speaker 2: a half hour ago on Twitter, and many of you

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Speaker 2: have certainly not seen this news. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: we ever decided buck on the official breaking news sounder

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Speaker 2: that we would have on the program, But I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure that I get this right, so I'm reading.

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Speaker 2: We'll read the full press release here just momentarily because

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Speaker 2: we don't know a lot of details. Tucker Carlson is

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Speaker 2: out at Fox News. Friday will be the final show

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Speaker 2: that he ever does. Buck I was on that show Friday.

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Speaker 2: I was not in any way knowledgeable about this. It

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Speaker 2: was a totally.

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Speaker 1: Normal Friday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: And in the last thirty minutes they have officially announced it.

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Speaker 2: They also announced it on Harris Faulkner's show as well.

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Speaker 1: Now Here is the official statement.

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Speaker 2: I want to read it, and then obviously eight hundred

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, we are in shock here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just so everybody understands, like, we had no idea

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Speaker 3: and Clay read the statement and we'll tell everybody what

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Speaker 3: we're seeing.

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Speaker 2: Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways.

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Speaker 2: This is a statement that was just released in the

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Speaker 2: last half hour or so. We thank him for his

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Speaker 2: service to the network as a host and prior to that,

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Speaker 2: as a contributor. Mister Carlson's last program was Friday, April

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Speaker 2: twenty first. Fox News Tonight will air live at eight

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern, starting this evening as an interim show helmed

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Speaker 2: by rotating Fox News personalities until a new host is named,

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Speaker 2: and that is basically the full statement that is out

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Speaker 2: so far. Buck, We've been trying to monitor Twitter certainly. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Fox News employee. I was on the final

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Speaker 2: show for Tucker Carlson Friday, as I just told all

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Speaker 2: of some of you may have seen it. No suggestion

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Speaker 2: that Tucker was completing his tenure at Fox News.

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Speaker 1: That was on Friday.

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Speaker 2: I was just on Fox News an hour ago on

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Speaker 2: America Reports with Bill Hemmer Dana Perino.

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Speaker 1: No idea this was happening.

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Speaker 3: Buck, So let's we just walked into the studio inn

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Speaker 3: and you just you know other things we are going

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Speaker 3: the things that we had lined up. Eric Adams says

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Speaker 3: the migrant crisis is destroying New York City, DC, requiring

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Speaker 3: vaccine for kids who return to schools.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the radar, Gavin Newsom calls in the California

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Speaker 3: National Guard to help combat San Francisco's ongoing fheomal crisis.

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Speaker 1: And we will get to all of this.

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Speaker 3: But we just came in here and I actually thought

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Speaker 3: thought the tweet that I saw on This was disinformation,

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Speaker 1: May gotten hacked, I mean, which it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe that this had happened.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of theories. Here's what we know

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Speaker 3: right now. First of all, I oncek for Clay. I

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Speaker 3: let Clay say, you know, his own piece on Tucker.

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Speaker 3: I think Tucker is a phenomenal talent and did a

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Speaker 1: We have a little bit of you know, we know

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Speaker 3: Yes, Bill O'Reilly had the biggest show on cable news

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Speaker 3: for twenty years. Bill O'Reilly and TV was the closest

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Speaker 3: just can't imagine. I mean, this is one of those

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Speaker 3: the reality that, you know, he may go do other projects,

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Speaker 3: but he's not going to be the guy at eight

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Speaker 1: We don't have any more insight to this and.

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Speaker 3: To the you know Clay and I know a lot

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Speaker 3: of people in business, Clay's obviously a Fox employee. I'd

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Speaker 3: say this talker gave the Heritage Found a Foundation gala

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Speaker 3: I just I don't have any inside.

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Speaker 1: Information yet into what happened here.

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Speaker 3: We're putting out our source, our feelers and talking to people.

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Speaker 1: But Clay didn't get to say goodbye.

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Speaker 3: Does seem to indicate that this decision might have been

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Speaker 3: made over the weekend?

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent it was made over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So again, I was on his show Friday, buck totally

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Speaker 2: one had any clue that this was happening. And frankly,

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Speaker 2: I mean to your point, Tucker had an address that

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Speaker 2: is going to be his final show, now what exactly happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's say this too. Tucker is such a talented media person.

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Speaker 2: I have been in a situation where I went out

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Speaker 2: impact to Fox News, I would think. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: certainly ratings reflect nobody had a more watched nightly news

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Speaker 3: And there's a look the theories that are out there

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Speaker 1: Yourself, Oh, well, you know Clay and Buck. You know,

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Speaker 1: they know Tucker and they like him, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so is this as.

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Speaker 3: Big of a I think anybody who watches Fox News

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also a.

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Speaker 3: Bigger deal within the media ecosystem going into it going

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Speaker 3: to be a very contentious election. AOC over the weekend said,

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Speaker 3: you know, Tucker does incitement. She probably said literally, but

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Speaker 3: incitement to violence with what he says on his show.

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Speaker 1: They've been trying to take him down for a long time.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just going to say this, when when a

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Speaker 3: Other not just heads may roll, but but big changes

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Speaker 3: Could there are other lawsuits pending right now we know,

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Speaker 2: So a couple of other things, Fox Stock basically did

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Speaker 2: The only news that's been out at Fox at all

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Speaker 2: Now it reminds me a little bit Buck of succession.

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Speaker 2: And again some people got mad at me for the

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Speaker 2: spoiler alerts. But when the Logan Roy character spoiler spoiler spoiler,

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Speaker 2: is in succession. Right, So Coucker Carlson is not dead,

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Speaker 2: there is an immediate reaction in the stock market to

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson having completed his last show on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Now. Oftentimes, and I will say oftentimes.

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Speaker 2: There is a rush to get the story out, so

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Speaker 2: I read to you the pr statement that is out.

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Speaker 2: Tucker obviously has many allies in the media.

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Speaker 1: At some point he.

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Speaker 2: Will decide, I would imagine, to tell his story of

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Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't, maybe he's getting paid out under his

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: We're down here in Fort Myers, Florida and doing a

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Speaker 5: Hi, I just want to say that this is so frustrating,

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Speaker 5: My whole family listens to Fox and Tucker a lot

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it really didn't have anything to do with it,

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Speaker 8: Hey, I'm done with Fox News. I canceled my cables, subscription,

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Speaker 3: AM radio helps keep AM radio there. It's not enough

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Speaker 3: to rely on your neighbor. You listen, you listen on AM.

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Speaker 3: Please write your congressman say hey, we need AM radio

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Speaker 3: in these cars and we can actually keep it going.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And look, what I would say in general is this

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Speaker 2: brings home what we've been saying for a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's not enough to rely just on advertisers in any business.

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Speaker 1: You have to build your own business.

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Speaker 2: And we've been talking about bud Light in the disrespect

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Speaker 2: that they showed for their consumer. How many people out

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Speaker 2: there are actually trying to build alternatives. Get angry, but

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Speaker 2: take advantage of entrepreneurial opportunities.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more playing Buck.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the second Hour a Clan and Buck on

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Speaker 3: this Monday. And Wow, it is a lot of change,

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Speaker 3: a lot of change we are processing right now here.

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Speaker 1: The big breaking news.

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Speaker 3: Right before we came on air, Just to bring everybody

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Speaker 3: up to speed in case you're joining us in progress.

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson has parted ways with Fox News, a massive,

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Speaker 3: a seismic shift over at Fox and we don't know

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Speaker 3: much of the backstory.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into some of that here in a second.

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon the.

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Speaker 3: New York Post headline here Lemon drop Don Lemon out

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Speaker 3: at CNN the same day, Clay and I seeing this

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Speaker 3: one eye to eye, thinking that this is a shake

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Speaker 3: up over at CNN that came about the moment they

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Speaker 3: saw an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: What is it in race car?

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Speaker 3: Is it you're is it drafting when you stay behind

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Speaker 3: somebody who is breaking the you know, it's sort of

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Speaker 3: a wind breaking out of you, right, drafting off the car,

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Speaker 3: A little bit like that with this with this move, like,

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Speaker 3: oh okay, well we'll just sort of fold this one

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Speaker 3: in because the Tucker move is size McDon Lemon not

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Speaker 3: going to make any difference to CNN with his ouster.

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Speaker 1: I also note by the way, NBC's CEO is gone.

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Speaker 1: It's right, I forgot about that. NBC. Hold on, we

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Speaker 1: got a few NBC ceo is out. I mean, is

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Speaker 1: you know is the you know, is it mercury in

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Speaker 1: retrograde or something.

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Speaker 3: For the astrology folks out there, something weird is in

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Speaker 3: the air.

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Speaker 1: NBC Universal is uh.

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Speaker 3: His CEO is out for an inappropriate relationship with a

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Speaker 3: CNBC staffer.

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Speaker 1: That was just announced this morning.

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Speaker 3: The bud Light marketing executive in charge of the Dylan

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Speaker 3: mulvaney campaign, now that was announced over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, she's out, but another.

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Speaker 3: Marketing exec at bud Light is now also on leave

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Speaker 3: of absence, which means slow firing, means shut up, will

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Speaker 3: keep paying you until the end of your contract, and

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Speaker 3: that's what leave of absence means in this case. I think,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of a lot of change, a lot

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Speaker 3: of I mean, look, these are I have to assume

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Speaker 3: that the situation with Tucker, I mean I would like

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Speaker 3: to think that it was a mutual sit down with

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Speaker 3: all the respect that their anchor at eight PM, who

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Speaker 3: I think did a phenomenal job for them, deserves. But

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Speaker 3: I know that his show staff thought they were doing

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Speaker 3: a show tonight. So this was very sudden, which to

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Speaker 3: me means that this was that decision that they made

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Speaker 3: from on high and it just came down from on high.

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Speaker 3: It was not a mutually agreed upon situation in that.

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Speaker 1: Regard, Right, it's still it's still yeah, it's we don't know.

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Speaker 2: It still could be mutually agreed upon, right, Tucker, whatever

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Speaker 2: he was, Let's let's start here.

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Speaker 1: Let's I always like to do. It wasn't mutually expected

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Speaker 1: we could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fair. I always like to start with.

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Speaker 2: Let's pretend that you were the agent involved in this story.

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Speaker 2: Like right, Let's pretend that you had dollars at stake.

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Speaker 2: If I were advising Tucker Carlson, whatever his salary is

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Speaker 2: at Fox News, and let's just let's toss out that

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Speaker 2: he's making tens of millions of dollars a year. He's

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Speaker 2: underpaid in the current media environment, by which I mean this,

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Speaker 2: if he goes out and starts his own media company,

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Speaker 2: he could build I believe, a billion dollar media brand. Right,

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Speaker 2: And so, if I am Tucker's agent, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's fielding, the agent is an unbelievable bevy of inquiries

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Speaker 2: right now. If I am Tucker's agent, I'm saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be fine because you are such a media

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Speaker 2: talent that you have the ability to do lots of things.

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Speaker 2: And let's keep in mind, in his career, Tucker has

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Speaker 2: worked at CNN, MSNBC, and now Fox News, and so

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Speaker 2: he's now left all three of those. And when he

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Speaker 2: took over for Bill O'Reilly, everybody said, oh, there's no

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Speaker 2: way he's going to be able to step in and

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Speaker 2: handle this, and he took that time slot to a

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Speaker 2: new level of success. So if I'm Tucker's agent right now,

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Speaker 2: and you have the opportunity to be a free agent

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Speaker 2: in the media marketplace, I want him to be a

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Speaker 2: free agent in the media marketble.

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Speaker 3: He only really has the option to be where he

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Speaker 3: would to get his value. Yes, he would have to

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Speaker 3: do what you said, would just start his own entity

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Speaker 3: or join forces with an entity where he became effectively.

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Speaker 3: In media terms, we call it the ten pole, like

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Speaker 3: the big name that holds up you know the rest

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Speaker 3: of it. Right. I mean when when I was hired

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Speaker 3: at the Blaze, the tent pole and the founder was Glenn, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was the big name that then created

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Speaker 3: opportunity for many of the rest of us to get

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Speaker 3: into the news and commentary business. Always I always say

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Speaker 3: thank you to Glenn for that. I'm always grateful to

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Speaker 3: Glenn for that and and Clay. Right now, this is interesting.

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Speaker 3: This is interesting, and and I'm seeing some media reporters

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Speaker 3: putting this out there because I think the first touch

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Speaker 3: thought that people would have on this one, a first

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Speaker 3: past thought people would have, is it's got to be

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Speaker 3: a related to dominion lawsuit, right, because that just came down. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but there are and this already came out, there are

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Speaker 3: anchors at Fox who have received more heat for the

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Speaker 3: dominion issue than Tucker did. In fact, way it showed

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Speaker 3: way more. What it showed is that Tucker started, you know,

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Speaker 3: earlier than some of the others said, Ah, this is

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Speaker 3: not something's not smelling right here.

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Speaker 1: There's a problem here with some of this analysis, right, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, the Kraken is not being unleashed, folks, Like, something's

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Speaker 3: going on here. So it's not dominion if you think

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Speaker 3: that that, you know, if you look up the timeline

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Speaker 3: of who said what and when, so then it gets

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Speaker 3: into well, what the heck is it?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean the number one rated show and a lot

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Speaker 3: of The Five actually, I mean Clay is a Fox employee.

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Speaker 1: The Five does.

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Speaker 3: Phenomenally well in a lot of nights, so he fare

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Speaker 3: and Shawn Show is number one some night, So it's

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Speaker 3: really been a you know, it's either Seawan Show, Tucker Show,

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Speaker 3: or The Five has the biggest ratings on any given

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Speaker 3: night over at Fox. But if it's not dominion, I

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Speaker 3: mean that when you talked about a politics thing, I

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Speaker 3: don't I don't think that that's what this is.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting theory, but I don't know what it is. Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of information you don't know. So, for instance,

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Speaker 2: how many years did Tucker have left on his contract?

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Speaker 2: Tucker knows, his agent knows, Fox knows. There's probably relatively

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Speaker 2: few people who know. So sometimes you have conversations about

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Speaker 2: where are you going in the future as those contracts

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Speaker 2: are coming up, right, That's commonplace in media. What what

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Speaker 2: I just circle back around to is for Tucker, if

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Speaker 2: his goal is just to maximize revenue and maximize earnings,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to be an employee, right If I'm

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Speaker 2: advising him again as an agent, and so I think

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Speaker 2: Tucker is going to be totally fine?

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Speaker 1: What do you got for? So I'm in a tweet

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Speaker 1: from Justin Hart.

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Speaker 3: You know this guy from Twitter, He's you know, one

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Speaker 3: of he's got a let me see, he's got one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty thousand followers.

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Speaker 2: Blue Now you gotta be super you gotta be super

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Speaker 2: careful now, like what's what's real and what's not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not, by the way, I'm not a

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Speaker 3: blue check absolutist like a lot of these other people.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually happy to pay eight dollars a month. Eight

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Speaker 1: dollars a month.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand people they're saying, oh, well, my blue check. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's actually the Libs who are saying it. I want

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Speaker 3: to support the new Twitter. I want a free speech

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Speaker 3: social media platform. We have to fight for this stuff,

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Speaker 3: and that means paying for and supporting this stuff. But okay,

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Speaker 3: this guy, Justin Hart put this out there again. I'm

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Speaker 3: attributing it. I do not know, but this is already.

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Speaker 3: It's going pretty viral here, pretty fast.

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Speaker 4: Said.

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Speaker 3: He says that his sources are telling him Tucker was

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Speaker 3: all set to go live tonight. He probably had plans

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Speaker 3: to talk about the lawsuit and clear his name. Producers

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Speaker 3: were prepping guests and slots of Monday Show.

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Speaker 1: Corporate nicks the idea.

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Speaker 3: I suppose, I suppose of Tucker speaking to the lawsuit

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Speaker 3: and what happened and Tucker up and quit. That is

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Speaker 3: what has been reported by Justin Hart of Twitter. Just

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Speaker 3: to be clear about his Now, I do know from

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Speaker 3: other sources that he that his staff was preparing that

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Speaker 3: is that is confirmed to me because I know that

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Speaker 3: from a good source that his staff was prepping a

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Speaker 3: show today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so no one knew there, So it was very sudden.

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Speaker 3: So that would then the suddenness of it could be

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Speaker 3: that he said this is what I'm doing tonight. There

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Speaker 3: was a few to the top level of Fox with

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Speaker 3: how he was going to address it, and you know

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Speaker 3: Tucker is.

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Speaker 1: Is a ballsy fellow. Well, it would also he may

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Speaker 1: have just said I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it would also go to just his knowledge of

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Speaker 2: his value on the larger marketplace and in that if

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Speaker 2: you and look, this is a there is.

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Speaker 1: No bigger platform. Now, this is the thing.

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Speaker 3: There's no better show at Fox, there's no better network.

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Speaker 1: As a conservative, I totally understand all of that.

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Speaker 2: And trust me, when I started out Kick a decade ago,

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Speaker 2: people said that's crazy that you're going to try to

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Speaker 2: go in any way out on your own. I just

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Speaker 2: think the power of traditional media in general is not

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Speaker 2: what it has been in the past.

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Speaker 1: And I think you can just point to other people.

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Speaker 2: Meghan Kelly is now having a really successful career renaissance,

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Speaker 2: I would say by being able to go out entirely

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Speaker 2: on her own and just be honest every day. When

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Speaker 2: she got fired at NBC, what did everybody say her

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Speaker 2: career is over? How is she ever going to come

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Speaker 2: back from this? And I think she's a perfect example

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Speaker 2: of someone that has had the Fox News platform and

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Speaker 2: then had the platform that exists on NBC News for

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Speaker 2: a morning show, got fired, They tossed her on the

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Speaker 2: scrap heap. I would argue she's at a career like

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Speaker 2: Apex now in terms of her success.

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Speaker 3: Making those kinds of decisions when you get a seventy

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Speaker 3: million dollar check does become quite a bit easier.

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Speaker 2: So but I don't think But to that point, also,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Tucker's hurting for money, and I guarantee

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Speaker 2: you that his phone is blowing up with opportunities out there.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything about the behind the scenes. All

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Speaker 2: we've said is I did the show Friday. Do you

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Speaker 2: right now do you think Tucker quit? Do you think

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Speaker 2: that they said no you can't, and he.

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Speaker 3: Said, I actually have last editorial say and it's my.

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Speaker 1: Way or the hot Do you think he quit?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I don't think you would do it in one fit

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Speaker 2: of peak, if that makes sense. I think if Tucker quit,

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Speaker 2: then Tucker was already thinking about what's next, right. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I would just say in general, you gotta

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Speaker 2: sometimes take a step back and take a motion out

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Speaker 2: of it. And I understand principle and everything else. The

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Speaker 2: first time you get angry at somebody you work for,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're like, I'm out. So if Tucker

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Speaker 2: quit and that's the report, I don't know any details,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he would do it just based off

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Speaker 2: one thing.

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Speaker 3: I will say, anger has never been helpful in a

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Speaker 3: professional setting. It's never That doesn't mean that you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to sometimes do what you gotta do,

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Speaker 3: but when you're angry, it doesn't usually help. It certainly

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Speaker 3: doesn't help the decision making process. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's so we had that. I'm looking to see what

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Speaker 3: else is coming in.

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Speaker 2: I also let me just say this on that report,

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Speaker 2: Tucker was on Friday, when was the dominion?

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Speaker 1: Lawsuits settled Wednesday Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah, So if he.

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Speaker 2: Wants to do a monologue about dominion on Wednesday, Thursday Friday,

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Speaker 2: he was on air, why would he not do it

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday, Thursday Friday?

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Speaker 3: And maybe there was maybe he was trying and this

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Speaker 3: had been building. I'm just again now we're theorizing, we're surmising,

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Speaker 3: we don't know, and we'll try to get you more

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Speaker 3: information on this as we do. Just also from our

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Speaker 3: VIPs Clanbuck dot com. Please become a vip. We have

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Speaker 3: Doctor Joe writes in Clay and Buck. I'm sure as

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Speaker 3: many are sending or will say, since Tucker is out

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Speaker 3: at Fox, we are out at Fox. We are canceling

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Speaker 3: any subscriptions we have with them. That is the last

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Speaker 3: straw for Fox. This is from doctor Joe in Louisiana,

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Speaker 3: one of our VIPs. I think this is. I think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be ramifications. It is, there's gonna be problems.

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Speaker 3: It is a tough.

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Speaker 2: Spot to be in when the face of any brand

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Speaker 2: is no longer there, which is why I circle back

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Speaker 2: around to all I can tell you is my experience.

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Speaker 2: I sold out Kick to Fox two years ago. No

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Speaker 2: one has said a word to me in two years

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Speaker 2: about what I could or could not say on any

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Speaker 2: topic under the sun. Tucker is obviously a way more

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Speaker 2: prominent Fox employee than I am. In my experience, Lachlan

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Speaker 2: Murdoch and the team that runs Fox News has never

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Speaker 2: told me a word.

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Speaker 1: About what I go on every show.

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Speaker 2: No one has ever said, hey, can you not say

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Speaker 2: this or can you not discuss this topic?

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Speaker 1: You also weren't at Fox during correct the elections. I

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Speaker 1: can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I can't speak to the hypothetical because we don't know.

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Speaker 2: I can just tell you my own personal experience. It

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Speaker 2: would that would surprise me because it's never happened to me.

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Speaker 3: If if this, let's just put this out there too,

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Speaker 3: if there is some change that is underway at the

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Speaker 3: highest leadership level of Fox, it will not only affect

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Speaker 3: that channel, it will affect the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 3: I think we all know that no Fox is the

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Speaker 3: battleship for the right.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox and talk radio.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if they can, if they can just

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Speaker 3: steer one of those in a direction that no longer

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Speaker 3: serves the base, it will be a huge, huge win

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Speaker 3: for the left. So look, we're gonna continue, We're we're

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Speaker 3: still working through this, and we want to hear from

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Speaker 3: all of you eight hundred to eight to eight A two,

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Speaker 3: and we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we have some fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I never like to have fun on

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Speaker 3: anyone's expect Don Lemon's worth tens of minks.

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Speaker 1: Don Lemons worth tens of millions of dollars. He's got

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Speaker 1: a super nice house out in the head.

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Speaker 3: Don Lemon is fine, He's gonna so we can have

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Speaker 3: fun with the fact that Don Lemon is gone.

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Speaker 1: All right. Don Lemon's not worried about you know how

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon got fired. Period.

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Speaker 3: I feel badly for producers of shows you get fired,

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Speaker 3: or people who were earlier and early in their career,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the people that have already feathered their

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Speaker 3: nests so to speak, and can just hang out and

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Speaker 3: they're good to go.

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Speaker 2: You know, they'll find them. I have been fired multiple

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Speaker 2: times in media. I'm sure at some point I'll get

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Speaker 2: fired again, as long as I don't own my own company.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's hard to get fired from your

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Speaker 2: own company. I'd like to think that someday if I

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Speaker 2: have another company, that'll that'll protect me somewhat. But who

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Speaker 2: the heck knows. In this world, you got to just

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Speaker 2: keep your head on a swivel. Anything can happen in

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Speaker 2: any jobs. Get fired from his own Oh yeah, they

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Speaker 2: got fired from Apple. It can happen, you know, my friends.

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Speaker 3: There'll be many more court battles ahead on the legality

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Voices of Sanity an Insane World.

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Speaker 2: Reacting to major crazy wild media news Tucker Carlson out

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Speaker 2: at Fox News, also Don Lemon out at CNN. We

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Speaker 2: should also mention I think it was Friday news broke

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Speaker 2: that Dan Bongino was no longer going to be a

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Speaker 2: contributor at Fox News, not going to be doing his

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Speaker 2: nightly show.

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Speaker 1: He was a host, yeah, for Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: I think he had a show, right, and we were

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Speaker 2: talking about people who have left media outlets and had

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Speaker 2: a great deal of success as independententities. I think you

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Speaker 2: have to mention Glenn Beck, who certainly is our lead

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Speaker 2: in on many of these same stations, with what he

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Speaker 2: has done with the Blaze. So again, to me, as

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Speaker 2: someone who had out kick, I look at Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 2: in the opportunities that he has going forward in the

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Speaker 2: media space and say, my goodness, there are some really

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Speaker 2: intriguing ones. Let's play Buck, what do you think about

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Speaker 2: We'll take some calls here in a moment. But given

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Speaker 2: the fact that Don Lemon is out, our staff has

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Speaker 2: been grabbing some of Don Lemon's highlights.

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Speaker 1: We were talking.

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Speaker 2: About the quest of Don, the best of Don Lemon,

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Speaker 2: the question of whether or not the Malaysian airplane had

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Speaker 2: been sucked into a black hole, which is one of

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Speaker 2: the all time great answers. But let's play this from

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one where Don Lemon decided he should go

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Speaker 2: after Trump voters in particular, people who didn't get the

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Speaker 2: COVID shot were stupid and they should be shamed.

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon in twenty twenty one, I.

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Speaker 9: Think we have to stop coddling people when it comes

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Speaker 9: to this and the vaccine saying, oh, you can't shame,

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Speaker 9: You can't call them stupid, you can't call them, Yes

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Speaker 9: they are. The people who ate in the bet at

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Speaker 9: Trump are stupid because they believed his big lie. The

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Speaker 9: people who are not getting vaccines, who are believing the

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Speaker 9: lies on the internet instead of science.

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Speaker 1: It's time to start shaming them.

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Speaker 9: What else, or leave them behind because they are keeping

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Speaker 9: the majority of Americans behind. You didn't feel that way

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Speaker 9: about the polio vaccine. You don't feel that way about measles, mumps,

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Speaker 9: reubella when it comes to your children, and all of

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Speaker 9: a sudden, this vaccine is different.

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Speaker 1: What's different about it?

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Speaker 9: The only different thing about it is because of your politics.

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Speaker 3: I think it's different that it used a never before

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Speaker 3: used technology in the history of humanity, and it wasn't

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Speaker 3: actually studied in any clinical sense.

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Speaker 1: Over a long period of time. Also, it didn't work.

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Speaker 3: Also, doctor Don Lemon apparently left his lab coade somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Also, if you got a bunch of shots for measles

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Speaker 2: and still got measles.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd be pretty pissed off with them.

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Speaker 2: This measle shots craps. So I've never been happier that

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Speaker 2: I didn't get for my kids or me. The COVID

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Speaker 2: shot is the fallout continues, but this was I would

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Speaker 2: say buck probably this is from February sixteenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: This is probably the moment when Don Lemon's continued employment

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Speaker 2: at CNN became untenable, when Don Lemon decided that Nicki

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Speaker 2: Haley was past his prime, and when pressed on it,

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Speaker 2: said yeah, just google it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, she says. People, you know, politicians are something. I'm

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Speaker 1: not in their prime. Niki Haley isn't enterprime. Sorry.

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Speaker 10: When a woman is considered being a prime in her

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Speaker 10: twenties and thirties and maybe forties twenty, that's not, according

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Speaker 10: to me, time for what it depends.

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Speaker 1: It's just like prime.

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Speaker 10: If you look it up, it'll if you google when

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Speaker 10: is a woman in a prime, it'll say twenties, thirties

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Speaker 10: and forties.

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Speaker 1: I don't know forties.

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Speaker 7: So I got another I agree with that prime for

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Speaker 7: like child are you talking about?

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Speaker 10: That's a dam dressing effects are google at everybody at home?

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Speaker 10: When is a woman in a prime, it says twenties,

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Speaker 10: thirties and forties. And I'm just saying, Nicki Haley should

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Speaker 10: be careful about saying that politicians are not in prime

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Speaker 10: and they need to be in their prime when they serve,

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Speaker 10: because she wouldn't be in a prime according.

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Speaker 3: To Google or whatever it is, google it, google it,

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Speaker 3: google it, hashtags science.

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Speaker 1: Ladies, google it is an amazing answer.

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Speaker 2: Not understanding the way that prime was being defined is

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Speaker 2: perfect for Don Lemon. And I can't stop loving the

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Speaker 2: image of Don Lemon prepping for his morning show by

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Speaker 2: being like, Oh, let me just go to Google and

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Speaker 2: find out when women are in their prime. And Buck,

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Speaker 2: I will say, I think this is an important point

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Speaker 2: you made. The idea was Don Lemon is impossible to

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Speaker 2: fire because he's a gay black guy.

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Speaker 3: So he basically had no guardrails for his commentary for

881
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Speaker 3: a long time. And I think that he really tested

882
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: out what is the outer limit of being a gay

883
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Speaker 3: black man working at CNN in terms of your you know,

884
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: fire ability in a woke world, And turns out you

885
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: can still get fired.

886
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Speaker 1: Which is I think a surprise to some people.

887
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: Now CNN is a dumpster fire, and unlike Tucker, who

888
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: will have abundant options in the media ecosystem, I really

889
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: don't see a lot out there for Don Lemon. I think,

890
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Speaker 2: to be fair, Don Lemon is well past his prime.

891
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a lot of juice left to

892
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Speaker 2: be squeezed. There a bunch of you want to weigh in,

893
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Speaker 2: lu Anne in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 7: Hi, I just want to first of all, I love

896
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Speaker 7: your show, you guys, thank you, youb I just wanted

897
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Speaker 7: to win on Tucker getting into politics, and I would

898
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Speaker 7: disagree with that just because I heard an interview with

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Speaker 7: Kochie Roberts, probably twenty years ago, and I remember being

900
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Speaker 7: dumbstruck because she was asked why she didn't get into

901
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Speaker 7: politics because her dad was and her dad said to her,

902
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 7: don't get into politics. You have a lot more influence

903
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Speaker 7: in the media. Yeah, And I remember thinking at the time, thinking,

904
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Speaker 7: what how can she have more influence in the media.

905
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Speaker 7: You're supposed to just report the news. So I think

906
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Speaker 7: Tucker's got a really strong base. People are going to

907
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Speaker 7: follow him. I will follow him wherever he's going, and

908
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 7: he reaches a lot of people.

909
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Speaker 2: Blue Man, I think you made a I mean, I

910
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Speaker 2: think all everything you said is particularly precient. Look, Buck,

911
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: you and I talk about this sometimes we feel incredibly

912
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: privileged to have this platform, we have way more influence

913
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Speaker 2: than a lot of politicians do because we are not

914
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Speaker 2: at the beck and call of voters on a day

915
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: to day basis. We can say exactly what we think

916
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Speaker 2: about Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump or Nicky Haley or

917
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Speaker 2: any other politician on the planet in a way that

918
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Speaker 2: sometimes politicians cannot. And certainly we're fortunate to be talking

919
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Speaker 2: to millions of people every single day. And that is

920
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Speaker 2: the impact that Tucker had on his television program. I

921
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Speaker 2: don't think that suddenly that huge fan base that he

922
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Speaker 2: has built up is going to vanish.

923
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Speaker 3: Look, you could tell that Trump was watching Tucker when

924
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: Trump was president, because there would be immediate reaction sometimes

925
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Speaker 3: to a topic. You know, you would see Trump would

926
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Speaker 3: focus on something that Tucker talked about, and you could

927
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: see even over the last you know, six months or so,

928
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: Trump calibrating and recalibrating the message or the focus occasionally

929
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Speaker 3: based upon what he would see on on Tucker's show.

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Speaker 1: So the influence I think was was very strong and

931
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Speaker 1: very clear.

932
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Speaker 2: And Tucker just set with Trump buck, I mean, you know,

933
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Speaker 2: it did that really detailed foreign affairs related interview, which

934
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Speaker 2: I thought was very much a positive for Trump, and

935
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: Hannity just had his big interview. But Tucker, what was

936
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: that like three weeks ago that he went to mar

937
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Speaker 2: A Lago and sat down with Trump.

938
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Speaker 3: Dane in Franklin, Tennessee, which I hear from Clay is

939
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: a lovely place.

940
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Speaker 2: I have heard sources, sources close to me can report

941
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Speaker 2: that Franklin, Tennessee may be the best place in America

942
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: to live.

943
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Speaker 1: What's going on, Dane, Oh, not much?

944
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Speaker 11: Been a long time listener. Glad to finally reach you us.

945
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 11: Thank you, yes, uh, the whole Tucker say. I don't

946
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 11: see how you guys can't feel threatened by that, with

947
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 11: the whole political world, ALC humors and all of them

948
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 11: constantly wanting to shut Tucker down.

949
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Speaker 1: Now happy, Well, can I tell you we always know?

950
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Speaker 1: Thank you for Thank you Dan for calling in. You know,

951
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: we're always targets.

952
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: And the bigger you are in terms of influence, the

953
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 3: bigger a target you are to the left, and they

954
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: fight dirty, they're remorseless, they're ruthless, they don't care. They

955
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: don't want to engage, they don't want to convince us

956
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: or our audience of anything. They want you to shut up,

957
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: bend the knee and comply, and they'll use corporate power,

958
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: public power, prosecutorial power, you name it. They'll do anything

959
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: that they can to tilt the playing field in their favor,

960
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: and so anyone who speaks out against it. You know, really,

961
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: the the beginning of Clay and I even knowing each

962
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: other and talking to each other was over. We're two

963
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 3: guys who during COVID when a lot of people, including

964
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: some people on the right, were really complacent, and we're

965
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Speaker 3: both like, this is absolutely nuts. People are losing their

966
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Speaker 3: minds in the government and fauci is and all the

967
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Speaker 3: rest of it. So and they came for us, by

968
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969
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Speaker 3: oh they want to come after you know, our platforms,

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Speaker 1: So that's just reality of being on the right.

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Speaker 3: But better that than to be some soft brained live

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Speaker 3: debutante who doesn't know any diletants. Sorry, not debutante who

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Speaker 2: I will say this too, and this goes for anybody

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Speaker 2: out there. The minute that you start allowing fear to

981
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Speaker 2: dictate what choices you make in life, I think you

982
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Speaker 2: are giving up on many parts of your life.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about just this.

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Speaker 2: Fear can be helpful, right buck, If you and I

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Speaker 2: I'll I don't want to really risk it with the

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990
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991
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992
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993
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994
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Speaker 2: you should, in my opinion, hang up the microphone, step

995
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996
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997
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Speaker 2: I did speak for both of us on this. I

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