Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio y
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Burnett. Do you know what's ridiculous? I do? Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll hit me with it. It is ridiculous to see
Speaker 1: a tow truck towing a tow truck, or as my
Speaker 1: nephew says, do you know what see dickies a tow
Speaker 1: truck to toe truck. See ridiculous. That's all I have.
Speaker 1: How's it good? Though? Everything is ridiculous, and the way
Speaker 1: he says it makes it extra ridiculous. I like that, Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: I have got a very special story for you today,
Speaker 1: and it is ciculous. I like to feel special. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's two things that I know you love too. Great
Speaker 1: taste that tastes great together. Yeah, horse racing and fraternity brothers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, top of my list on those. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. This is a Ridiculous Crime, a podcast
Speaker 1: about absurd and outrageous capers. Heis and cons always free
Speaker 1: and ridiculous. Okay, Now, as I promised, Elizabeth, I have
Speaker 1: a hell of a story for your two great loves,
Speaker 1: the American college fraternity system and horse racing. So let's
Speaker 1: just start at the top. Frat parties you love them?
Speaker 1: How many did you go to in college? Zero? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 1: I did not ever go to one, not even by mistake,
Speaker 1: not even like a friend dragged you. Did you try
Speaker 1: to avoid them? Were you? Do you have a rule
Speaker 1: against I just had zero interest in attending all. I
Speaker 1: worked at the print shop on campus and used to
Speaker 1: They all had accounts with us, and they'd come in
Speaker 1: and make flyers. You knew about the parties, yeah, and
Speaker 1: like when they were when they were and they were
Speaker 1: hands down every single time, so crazy, rude to me
Speaker 1: and would just just say mean things to me when
Speaker 1: they'd walk in. When they wanted something from you, they
Speaker 1: would come in and be like hey, yeah, they'd be like,
Speaker 1: you know, like hey you freaquent, your frea waving money
Speaker 1: at you like you Now. I had blue hair that
Speaker 1: seemed to really like tick them off. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There was funded by your freakish flag. And some of
Speaker 1: them were so rude to me and like offensive that
Speaker 1: if I saw them walk in, I wouldn't go to
Speaker 1: the counter and all my pals, all the guys. I
Speaker 1: was me and a bunch of guys, a bunch of
Speaker 1: dudes at the print shop yeah, and they were all
Speaker 1: just like like burnout, dude, Yeah, totally, and they've all
Speaker 1: look at each other and then they'd walk up to
Speaker 1: the counter and deal with them and they'd be really
Speaker 1: rude to the guys, Like I can do rude to
Speaker 1: watch this. Yeah. So, I mean, I just but I
Speaker 1: never had any interest in going to those kind of things. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: second question, Yes, horse racing. How many days have you
Speaker 1: spent at the horse track? I have only seen one
Speaker 1: horse race. You've been to one? Well, it was at
Speaker 1: the County Fair. County Fair, and they you know, I
Speaker 1: was there and I walked up to the like I
Speaker 1: was right at the railing and it's so crazy when
Speaker 1: you feel the hoofs, like the hoofbeat as it goes by.
Speaker 1: It's nuts. That's what got me to love horse racing
Speaker 1: is standing at the rail and feeling when they come
Speaker 1: thundering past, the ground shakes the speed. You're like, I
Speaker 1: had no idea how fast they were. And Golden Gate
Speaker 1: Fields in Berkeley or whatever, when you're on the freeway
Speaker 1: driving by, sometimes you can smell it. Oh yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I used to live there on the other side of
Speaker 1: that hill from the track. The smell went up the
Speaker 1: hill and down the other side the other exposure to horses.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you on that. Okay. Well, so
Speaker 1: then you have from some familiarity none with the frat
Speaker 1: brother party, so I'll have to do I know what
Speaker 1: the whole story is it. You've seen like an old
Speaker 1: beer can sitting out in the grass before, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I know this well, feel that all right, Now it's
Speaker 1: time to meet our fred bros. Right okay? Or Their
Speaker 1: names are Chris Harn like um Ham, but with an
Speaker 1: RM instead of an M, right, okay, like to do
Speaker 1: harm to someone? No, no, like with an ND no
Speaker 1: no no like and like ninja. Yeah okay. Harn he's
Speaker 1: the brains of this. And then there's Glenn Da Silva.
Speaker 1: He's our good time guy. And finally there's Derrick Davis.
Speaker 1: He's also a fun Yeah Double d is fun time
Speaker 1: bro too. Now, all three went to Drexel University. You
Speaker 1: know Drexel, Yes, yeah, okay, so it's in Philadelphia. I
Speaker 1: have an honorary PhD from then, you know, it's so
Speaker 1: downtown Philly school. Their freshman year was to put this
Speaker 1: in perspective, so Harn into Silva freshman year roommates. The
Speaker 1: two lived in the dorms together, you get to know
Speaker 1: each other. And I was thinking about this one was
Speaker 1: reading their story because I had a freshman roommate, but
Speaker 1: he was a transfer student and he was much older.
Speaker 1: He was like twenty eight years old, so we were
Speaker 1: not close, and I didn't always think about that. Poor dude.
Speaker 1: He would come back to the room and I'd be
Speaker 1: like on his bed getting busy, and They'll be like yeah,
Speaker 1: because there'd be like my clothes or would be on
Speaker 1: my bed. I would so like I was, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was the nightmare roommate for a twenty eight year old man.
Speaker 1: I was just like terrible. So I know if he
Speaker 1: was telling the story he would have a nightmare roommate.
Speaker 1: He could. But I always think about the boundaries Burnette,
Speaker 1: you know, right, I always think about that was terrible.
Speaker 1: So the one thing I was thinking about, though, is
Speaker 1: that how many people I know who their freshman roommates
Speaker 1: either still are in their lives or was totally not
Speaker 1: in their lives. Like they had a very strong reaction me,
Speaker 1: like we got along and when we shared the room,
Speaker 1: except for like when you find me in his bed,
Speaker 1: But shy of that. Right, we're cool now for you,
Speaker 1: did you have a college roommate that had some impact
Speaker 1: in your life? I did. I had. I lived in
Speaker 1: a sweet so it was like three rooms a bunch
Speaker 1: of you. Then you didn't, okay, you weren't like roommate
Speaker 1: and I didn't really mesh and she was never there,
Speaker 1: and so it wasn't like contentious, but it was just
Speaker 1: non existence ships passing. But one of my sweet mates,
Speaker 1: actually Laura. She became one of my closest friends in
Speaker 1: the world. To day, there you go, Well, that's what
Speaker 1: Harn and to Silva did, except for they also swirled
Speaker 1: in some crime and some cocaine, so we didn't. We
Speaker 1: did neither. Yes, I know that it's funny to make
Speaker 1: a distinction between some you know, sunning ourselves in Chinese food.
Speaker 1: Perfect call. So this group and I've told you about
Speaker 1: to Silva is the party boy. Uh and then Chris
Speaker 1: Harn his roommate, so to Silva, he joins a frat
Speaker 1: his sophomore year. He gets his old roommate Chris Harn
Speaker 1: to help him. He's like, you're not help him, but
Speaker 1: to join with him. He's like, oh man, you gotta rush,
Speaker 1: I'm Russian Tao Kappa Ebsilon Man the tea. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So fatiaks are like, you know, usually one of the
Speaker 1: big frats, right, So these guys are like stoked. But
Speaker 1: this is a tech first school. Drexel at the time
Speaker 1: was billed as the first wireless university in the United States. Right,
Speaker 1: So a bunch of these dudes, including the guys, were
Speaker 1: talking about they're like engineering students. I think Chris harn
Speaker 1: he was informations technology students, so he basically computer science.
Speaker 1: You love that. So in his and in his future
Speaker 1: co defendant Derrick Davis, he was an engineering soon. So
Speaker 1: though all these guys, right, they're smart cats, except for
Speaker 1: de Silva Sila was more like a party boy. But
Speaker 1: even like these guys are frat boys, they're smart frat boys.
Speaker 1: So they think of Chris Harne is like one of
Speaker 1: their guys, even though he is the computer nerdy guy.
Speaker 1: All right, So these guys they managed to spend six
Speaker 1: years at Drexel. None of them leave the school with
Speaker 1: a degree. They're like super super seniors. Yeah no, but
Speaker 1: they none. They then to make it out. So by
Speaker 1: nineties seven, barn is working at Auto tote. Now I
Speaker 1: didn't know what auto tote was. I doubt you have
Speaker 1: heard of it. No good, guess it's a cow many
Speaker 1: that's responsible for process of the US horse racing bets.
Speaker 1: So that was not a good It was in the
Speaker 1: sense it involved motions. So I'm trying to be nice, Oh,
Speaker 1: we don't waste your time. So off track betting in
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties switches from It used to be
Speaker 1: that fifteen percent of bets came from off track, and
Speaker 1: then it was we're on track. Now it's switched to
Speaker 1: the bets are off track and fifteen percent of bets
Speaker 1: are placed at the facility. So this was right when
Speaker 1: it was switching over, and so this is what inspired
Speaker 1: Chris Harn to go full outlaw. He's like, I see
Speaker 1: some stuff in this system other people don't see. He
Speaker 1: works his way up to senior programmers, so he's getting
Speaker 1: his eyes on all the technology. He's seeing all the
Speaker 1: gaps and junctions in their system. He knows where the
Speaker 1: weak points are and he's like, I can exploit these.
Speaker 1: And there's a smart guys who's like, I want to
Speaker 1: exploit these, right, So he calls up his frat rogue
Speaker 1: Glenn Da Silva, who had moved to New York City
Speaker 1: and he was underemployed at the time because you know,
Speaker 1: not a college graduate, and he'd been kind of a
Speaker 1: party boy. So at this point he's developed a hell
Speaker 1: of a drug problem. He's now basically a coke head
Speaker 1: in New York and just bouncing around. His life is spiraling.
Speaker 1: So when he hears some his old frat brother and
Speaker 1: roommate Chris Harn, who reaches out to him, was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: to Silva, I bet you could like want to be
Speaker 1: get involved in this. I got this thing I want
Speaker 1: to tell you about. And he's like, what are you so?
Speaker 1: What is this? It's a great way to make some
Speaker 1: fast and easy money. He's like, fast and easy money,
Speaker 1: I could use some of that. It turns out I
Speaker 1: have a coke problem. So yeah, he brings into Silva
Speaker 1: into someone's like down, he tells them all about scam.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, my idea is we can siphon off
Speaker 1: some of the hundreds of millions of dollars that are
Speaker 1: transitting through the off track betting system. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand you're talking about. He's no, I got it
Speaker 1: all worked out nobody would ever notice two Silva in
Speaker 1: a word, curious. He's like, I got some coke to buy.
Speaker 1: Tell me more. He's curious. So yeah, Harn explains the
Speaker 1: scam and some technological terms I want to get into here,
Speaker 1: and it comes down to this, They're gonna use uncashed tickets,
Speaker 1: so winning tickets that are in the system that never
Speaker 1: got cashed. He's able to find them. He can then
Speaker 1: print them up on some dummy tickets. Sends the dummy
Speaker 1: tickets to Da Silva. Now he's got straight up cash.
Speaker 1: He just has to go to a track or an
Speaker 1: off track betting the machine, which is basically like an
Speaker 1: a t M for gambling addicts. He had to go
Speaker 1: to one of those and go, hey and cash in
Speaker 1: these tickets. They're like casino voutyers now where they it's
Speaker 1: like a receipt and it has a barcode the amount
Speaker 1: of money, so he can go in. Occasionally he would
Speaker 1: go and place the bet and then cash out the rest.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he would just cash it out, but either way
Speaker 1: they spend two thousand one doing this well. Basically if
Speaker 1: they started in November two. This is a common thing
Speaker 1: that people place the bet and they never pick it up.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that that's common, just like the lottery tickets
Speaker 1: or people like they buy a lottery tickets scratching, they
Speaker 1: don't realize they've won, they drop it. People like will
Speaker 1: look for lottery tickets to see. This is often down.
Speaker 1: There's yeah, there's billions of dollars spent in gym memberships
Speaker 1: every year that people don't use. The Americans are really
Speaker 1: good at spending money and then just forgetting about every year.
Speaker 1: So this is just one slus fund of money that
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I could pull off some of this, right,
Speaker 1: so they start doing it. They travel around the tri
Speaker 1: state area in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania cash and tickets.
Speaker 1: It was working gang busters, right. They're able to make
Speaker 1: about nine dollars over the course of one year just
Speaker 1: off of uncashed tickets. And nobody would notice this because
Speaker 1: Harn's pulling him out of the system, so they doren't
Speaker 1: really like it's not like how do I best put this?
Speaker 1: There is nobody looking for what he's doing because the
Speaker 1: money has essentially been paid out, So if the company
Speaker 1: doesn't have to pay it out, they're not looking for
Speaker 1: money that they didn't have to pay out, it just
Speaker 1: gets kind of pushed forward. I would just think that
Speaker 1: someone's like disaggregating that data to have like a tracking
Speaker 1: unclaimed they would if the system wasn't as old as
Speaker 1: like d m V and I r S computer. Because
Speaker 1: that's the thing he knew, is that the system was
Speaker 1: super old, so it couldn't keep up right. So he
Speaker 1: works out this little nice side hustle for them that's
Speaker 1: about four grand a month each. And as jay Z
Speaker 1: would say, they were making it easy cheese like you know,
Speaker 1: I checked chatted like a food inspectum. Right, they're pulling
Speaker 1: in all kinds of money, right, just slice with the
Speaker 1: cheese right now to silver. He's taking his easy windfall
Speaker 1: and he's like, I can turn this into cocaine. He's
Speaker 1: buying so much cocaine as like I just imagined, like
Speaker 1: a big block of cheese. And then he's Abra cadaver
Speaker 1: Bobby cadaver and it turns and doing some betting tickets
Speaker 1: at it, and it turns into coaches. So he's buying
Speaker 1: coc Elizabeth liked he says this because and he's like, Okay, now,
Speaker 1: as he's blown through this money as fast as he can,
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, we need to go bigger
Speaker 1: because I keep going down to Miami and Vegas in
Speaker 1: l A basically on like a douchebag Grand Tour of America,
Speaker 1: and he's blowing his money so fast. He's coming back
Speaker 1: to Hard and being like, hey, what are we gonna
Speaker 1: do that again? Man? That was great, We should do
Speaker 1: that again. Hard's like, ah, man, uh uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of like, I work here. I can't
Speaker 1: be like to, you know, like I have things to protect.
Speaker 1: I'm not like you, a loose coke had just run
Speaker 1: around even fast money. So let's be smart about this.
Speaker 1: Four grand a month extras. I mean that's that's good
Speaker 1: for a guy. Good. Yeah, I mean that that's just
Speaker 1: extra cream for him. And if if he's a smart fella,
Speaker 1: he's banking it, yeah exactly. Well that's so we'll get
Speaker 1: right into this. So they start basically wanting to go bigger, right,
Speaker 1: And this is an issue that happens whenever you're doing
Speaker 1: a crime and it works well and people keep doing
Speaker 1: the same crime, they tend to do one of two things,
Speaker 1: which is either they get messy, they get sloppy, they
Speaker 1: get lazy, cocky over confident. Whatever it is, they take
Speaker 1: their eye off the ball and they stopped acting like
Speaker 1: what they're doing is illegal. And then we'll ruin their
Speaker 1: life if they get caught. Right, and then the other
Speaker 1: thing that they can do is they can get greedy.
Speaker 1: They can go I want to go too big, I
Speaker 1: want to go too fast. I want to grab too
Speaker 1: much that I can't carry. Right, these two excited to
Speaker 1: do both. All right, let's get lazy and greedy. God,
Speaker 1: so Hard is a plan. He's like, we need to
Speaker 1: go for one big score and then I'm out. That's
Speaker 1: always the one big score. Then I'm out, and then
Speaker 1: there's like I've reformed, I'm never doing that's the last time.
Speaker 1: And then maybe just this once. So Hard's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I got a deal. He calls up to Selbody's like,
Speaker 1: it's called a pick six, And so I was like,
Speaker 1: I know what to pick six is? Man, And so
Speaker 1: if you don't know what to pick six is the
Speaker 1: way to bet on the races of one day, which
Speaker 1: is you pick in a row all of the horse races.
Speaker 1: You pick the winner of all six races, and if
Speaker 1: you do that, there is a huge pot. And this
Speaker 1: can be you know, because of doing off track betting,
Speaker 1: you can be betting in New work on a race
Speaker 1: in Chicago, So then you can get like millions of
Speaker 1: dollars one tracks bets and if you're the only one
Speaker 1: or one of the few people to win this, it's
Speaker 1: like hitting it's like hitting a double parlay. Essentially, it's
Speaker 1: a it is a crazy, hard, astronomically possible thing of
Speaker 1: races when every single time, and so if you do that,
Speaker 1: you're gonna like become a big fat price. And some
Speaker 1: of the races. Racing went through a hard time in
Speaker 1: the eighties and they started losing money, and so they
Speaker 1: came up with this thing to like, go, how do
Speaker 1: we imitate the lottery? So they kind of come up
Speaker 1: with this mega millions pick six pot. Nobody wins. They
Speaker 1: pushed the pot forward, so these pots get bigger and bigger.
Speaker 1: So they're like, you know what, we need to do that.
Speaker 1: But Harn's smart, He's like, let's not go for the
Speaker 1: biggest pot, Let's go for the biggest day of the year.
Speaker 1: So instead they pick the Breeders Cup, which is the
Speaker 1: biggest race of the year, when all these betters will
Speaker 1: be putty good money if they can pick that pick
Speaker 1: six that'll be multimillion dollar paiday. So that's a lot
Speaker 1: different than unclaimed tickets though, yes, very different. In fact,
Speaker 1: people pay attention to this one as opposed to the
Speaker 1: unclaimed tickets. So the you know, as as they days
Speaker 1: get closer to Silva's into it, and Hern's like, we
Speaker 1: just have to work this out. There's a couple of kinks,
Speaker 1: and then then he started to realize that maybe to
Speaker 1: Silva is not the best partner to do this, and
Speaker 1: he's like, we needed to bring in somebody else, and
Speaker 1: He's like, huh mean he doesn't like the loose cannons.
Speaker 1: Loose cannon cocaine is probably not the best plan. Which
Speaker 1: guy who's like, I'm a homeowner, I've got a job
Speaker 1: i want to get, I'm recently married. You know this
Speaker 1: guy is not my guy. So after a short break,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who he brings in to help seal
Speaker 1: this deal. All right, lizab So we're back with the
Speaker 1: frat bros who wanted to try to rig off horse race. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Breeders Cup two thousand two, that's going to be
Speaker 1: the scene of our crime. Harn into Silva, that's her
Speaker 1: big score. So far, everything's been smooth sailing, like in
Speaker 1: terms you would understand, it's like sailing on a sea
Speaker 1: of velvita, right right. I figured you'd get that one.
Speaker 1: So you may be wondering, Saren, how do you rig
Speaker 1: a horse race? Honestly I am wondering that, Elizabeth, look
Speaker 1: at you. Yeah, and normally I'm moving. I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 1: You're like, I actually want to know. Okay, well, it
Speaker 1: comes down to another one of your favorite subjects, computer hardware,
Speaker 1: antibox steroids. No, remember I told you about the automatic
Speaker 1: off track betting machines that are like a t m
Speaker 1: S for gambling addicts. Yes, okay, those they have a
Speaker 1: little how do we best say, a weakness in the
Speaker 1: link of technology and harness. Figured out that there is
Speaker 1: a timekeeping issue. But these machines, they will not send
Speaker 1: the answers to who has won the first races? When
Speaker 1: there is a pick six, they don't send the answers
Speaker 1: to race one, Race two, Race three, race four. After
Speaker 1: race five is one, then all those races are sent
Speaker 1: in as one big group, and then the machine now knows, okay,
Speaker 1: who here is one all of these races. They're the
Speaker 1: only people who could qualify for the picks. It's a
Speaker 1: way to save computer memory and processing because you have
Speaker 1: to go every single race. It's just this very small
Speaker 1: pool of who could win. What that means is is
Speaker 1: there is a window of time where all five winners
Speaker 1: are known, and if somebody could get into the system,
Speaker 1: they could switch out a ticket. And Harn realizes this
Speaker 1: and he's like, all I have to do is just
Speaker 1: in that half an hour before the six races run,
Speaker 1: switch out the tickets through the system. And as long
Speaker 1: as I've got my dude who's got the ticket in person,
Speaker 1: we can make this work. Now, there's a little bit
Speaker 1: more technological details I'll tell you about the autotote system,
Speaker 1: but we'll pretty much keep this tech light. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: So we go to the bets. There is a way
Speaker 1: that they're going to do the pick six. So, as
Speaker 1: I told you, they want all the different races, and
Speaker 1: with the various races, it came down to the fact
Speaker 1: that the various systems that would report they had to
Speaker 1: go through a touch tone phone system, right, so that
Speaker 1: way they can electronically date and everything. But there was
Speaker 1: one track and the cats skills that was an off
Speaker 1: track betting facility that had old non touch tone phones
Speaker 1: harm rotary phones. This is like two two. In New
Speaker 1: York there wasn't with a state law that you had
Speaker 1: to have. All the other places there was a state
Speaker 1: law you had to have these rotary phones for horse
Speaker 1: track racing, but for whatever reason, New York did not
Speaker 1: require it. So this place to just not done it.
Speaker 1: And Harn was aware of this. So there is there
Speaker 1: is his gap. There is one place that will not
Speaker 1: be able to if he puts his bet through cat skill,
Speaker 1: they will definitely not be able to be marked because
Speaker 1: there's no touch tone stamp. Okay, So at this point
Speaker 1: in October, they decided to do a dry run. He
Speaker 1: still got his boy to Silva working with him, so
Speaker 1: he's like to Silva go up to the cat skills
Speaker 1: and so he does. He does this off track betting
Speaker 1: facility and they practice. He goes and he buys some
Speaker 1: tickets right, and he's going to place his bets with
Speaker 1: the tickets and then tell the results to Harn, and
Speaker 1: Harn then goes into the autotote system switches the ticket
Speaker 1: that Da Silva bought. So he had the first four
Speaker 1: races already like put in as one horse. He just
Speaker 1: basically picking one horse to win all the first races.
Speaker 1: He switches that horse to the ones who did win,
Speaker 1: and then now Da Silva has has to pick six
Speaker 1: horses and then he'll automatically win. The pis limited the
Speaker 1: odds down to just pick the last horse race, right,
Speaker 1: so they work it out. It wins. He's like, oh nice.
Speaker 1: They pick like some easy like harness race something where
Speaker 1: there's not a big pot. Nobody's gonna notice. Two days later,
Speaker 1: they do a second trial. This time they pick a
Speaker 1: bigger horse racing facility. They want to try it like
Speaker 1: a real run, right. They do this time, but the
Speaker 1: Belmont Track in New York, and if you know about
Speaker 1: horse racing, Belmont is one of the big three in
Speaker 1: horse racing. There's the Belmont Stakes, the Preakness in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Derby RRK, the Run for the Roses. Right, So they're
Speaker 1: they're going like, let's go really try because they're gonna
Speaker 1: be real authorities, real investigations. So forth goes off without
Speaker 1: a hitch and they're doing this at the cats Skills again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go through the cat Skills. That's where they placed
Speaker 1: the bet. But they're placing the at for a race
Speaker 1: at Belmont. But so they have to interact with the
Speaker 1: staff at the Cats. They just have to go through
Speaker 1: their system because remember they have these machines were like
Speaker 1: a t M S. There's no person. They can just
Speaker 1: punch in a little they put the receipt in. No,
Speaker 1: then it goes through a rotary phone system because the
Speaker 1: person is going, I don't know how the bets are
Speaker 1: being placed, but they can go through the machine and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden that is collated and then sent.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious if it this one like analog shop.
Speaker 1: They're like, why is this guy nailing the pick six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they will. They're not catching up to it because
Speaker 1: you know, some people are lucky whatever, and it's just
Speaker 1: one win. It wasn't like a big deal. Well, the
Speaker 1: the the race at Belmont, they win a hundred and
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars boom. That would be enough to get
Speaker 1: out or for Disilva to buy mountains of cocaine, right,
Speaker 1: But Silva's like, no, I need more mountains of cocaine. Right,
Speaker 1: So he's like, by the way, he takes that hundred
Speaker 1: and five thousand dollars. They split it evenly, right, to Silva,
Speaker 1: goes out, he buys vodka, cocaine and some ubers or whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: he blows it real fast. Harm does what you said it.
Speaker 1: He spends dollars to pay off his second mortgage he takes.
Speaker 1: He pays off the remainder of his car, and then
Speaker 1: he makes one mistake. He emails to Silva all about
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's like, take this money, put it
Speaker 1: into my mortgage. Take this money, and he's telling them
Speaker 1: how to spend the winning So he creates a paper
Speaker 1: trail that will come back to bite him. Or as
Speaker 1: my man Stringer Bell from the Wire would say, never
Speaker 1: take notes on a criminal conspiracy. Of course he said
Speaker 1: it more colorfully than that, but you get the idea.
Speaker 1: So things are going well for these guys, right, and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh we should you know, now go for
Speaker 1: our big one. We're gonna go and take on the
Speaker 1: Breeders Cup million dollar prize. But as with all things,
Speaker 1: there are the natural laws of crime. And now, Elizabeth,
Speaker 1: you know about gravity, one of my favorite subjects. Been
Speaker 1: in a lifelong feud with gravity of gravity. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know as well, Harsh Mistress. Well, just like how there
Speaker 1: are the natural laws like of gravity. What goes up
Speaker 1: must come down. They are also the natural laws of crime. Okay.
Speaker 1: For instance, Newton's third law of motion states that for
Speaker 1: every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Well, there
Speaker 1: is also a third law of crime dynamics, which I'm
Speaker 1: making up as we speak. I'm in the third law
Speaker 1: of by imagining crime dynamics. It states that never steal
Speaker 1: more than you can carry. That's a good one, right,
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty solid. Now. Anyway, in this case, what
Speaker 1: that means is, don't try to gang something that's so
Speaker 1: big that when you try to get away with it,
Speaker 1: you wind up leaving a trail that leads right to you.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's like if you bake up
Speaker 1: a bag of flour and it's just leaking. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: that basically good, very good. So what these two brain
Speaker 1: genius frat brows decided to do is rope in another
Speaker 1: frat brow because we're like, for our big score, we're
Speaker 1: gonna need somebody else other than just so. So Harn's
Speaker 1: like because basically, you know, he's done to personality in
Speaker 1: dex he knows who is a former room. He's like,
Speaker 1: this guy is going to get me busted. Now can
Speaker 1: you imagine pulling off a billion dollar scam with a
Speaker 1: coquette as your partner? Right, Like, you gotta respect Harn
Speaker 1: for at least recognizing that one. But instead he's like,
Speaker 1: how about I pick my old former engineering buddy, Derrick Davis,
Speaker 1: who happens to be an undercover co kid. He didn't know.
Speaker 1: Derreck Davis is more mathematical logical I told you, engineering student,
Speaker 1: than to Silva. But he's also, as I said earlier,
Speaker 1: a party boy too. He's a little bit of a snowstone.
Speaker 1: So October twenty six, the big day two Thou two
Speaker 1: the Breeders cup rolls around. Now we've got Harn, Da, Silva,
Speaker 1: and Derrick Davis all lined up to run a frat
Speaker 1: boy I don't way say triple team, but basically they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna run a scam, all right, I'll just
Speaker 1: leave it at that. So Harn contacts the Catskill off
Speaker 1: Track betting facility and he sets up an account for
Speaker 1: Derrick Davis. He then places his bets in Derrick davis name. Yea,
Speaker 1: it doesn't even go to the facility. He just got
Speaker 1: an account open for him. He's going through the autotote system,
Speaker 1: and you have to understand that he's able to do
Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff I'll get into in a second,
Speaker 1: But basically Harn does his normal thing. He had buys
Speaker 1: tickets for Derrick Davis, and each of the the first
Speaker 1: four races, he picks the same horses to win, and
Speaker 1: then for the fifth horse in the sixth the sixth race,
Speaker 1: he has a combination. He's like, we touched, decide will
Speaker 1: pick these, So they pick basically all the horses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what that means is that he would have like
Speaker 1: nineties six combinations, possible winning combinations. Right now, the horses
Speaker 1: names that we're talking about, I think you would have
Speaker 1: a great time naming a race. Love racehorse names, right.
Speaker 1: I think I wish that that was a job that
Speaker 1: you could be like, you know what they say, dressed
Speaker 1: for the job you want. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: dress for I name horses. Well, I think your outfit
Speaker 1: now is pretty good, pretty close. Yeah, the black cowboy
Speaker 1: in the sweaty pick cowboy and the short shorts, yeah
Speaker 1: on the crop top is so good. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: got dress up today. I want to look special. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So these racehorses, the winning horses. I'll just run down
Speaker 1: their names. Harren had a ticket with the names that
Speaker 1: he would eventually change too. So these are the not
Speaker 1: the names he bought the tickets. These are the winning
Speaker 1: the horses that he would switch to once he dips
Speaker 1: back into the autotote system and he would correct it
Speaker 1: so that it reads take Charge Lady to win race one,
Speaker 1: Storm Flag Flying to win race two, Dome Driver in
Speaker 1: race three to beat the favorite of Gibraltar, and Orientate
Speaker 1: in race four to outpace Thunderrella. Okay, so for race
Speaker 1: five and six though, they just have the open spots.
Speaker 1: Although he's picked all of the horses right, so they
Speaker 1: don't know. It'll just be one of them. And we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a second. Right, So harn Davis
Speaker 1: has got his tickets. They purchased six tickets with all
Speaker 1: these combinations to cost them two dollars. Right now, it's
Speaker 1: time for harn to get busy. So what does he do?
Speaker 1: Pops over into his like recently paid off car drives
Speaker 1: to work. Now there's a problem with this. He's not
Speaker 1: scheduled to work that day. And if you've ever gone
Speaker 1: to work on the day you're not scheduled to working.
Speaker 1: People notice a little suspect. They're like, what's up with that?
Speaker 1: I hate this place. I'm not coming back here. Where
Speaker 1: are you here? Some people notice and they did any Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Frat brother Derrick Davis calls up Harn on his cell phone,
Speaker 1: so there is a trail between the two of them,
Speaker 1: constantly contacting each other. On this day. Another thing you
Speaker 1: don't want to do, so Harn meanwhile, is that work suspicious?
Speaker 1: Is all Hell talking on his cell phone with his
Speaker 1: future co defendant, and the two men go over every
Speaker 1: last minute detail right what they hadn't planned for though,
Speaker 1: because they got everything nailed down. The only thing they
Speaker 1: hadn't planned on this thing. Always I always recommend people
Speaker 1: pay attention to. It's something called the unexpected or random chance,
Speaker 1: or what gamblers like to call bad luck, the known unknowns,
Speaker 1: the unknown unknowns exactly. Rumsfeld new It's one thing I
Speaker 1: got to give him credit up. So the horse that
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Dome Driver, he was a twenty six
Speaker 1: to one long shot, twenty six to one right, he
Speaker 1: wins an early race against Rock at Gibraltar. This ruined
Speaker 1: most folks chance at winning the picture. Almost all of
Speaker 1: them had picked Rock at Gibraltar. Right now, the track
Speaker 1: officials assume that means about of the four point seven
Speaker 1: million dollars worth of tickets sold and the bets, they're
Speaker 1: all invalidated. Now it's only the bets that continue pass
Speaker 1: like the third race. Okay, so there's now no really
Speaker 1: large legitimate group of betters for harn Davis and Da
Speaker 1: Silva to like hide out in right for or thirty
Speaker 1: The fourth race starts and after that race is one,
Speaker 1: the winner gets announced. Now it's time for the final
Speaker 1: horse needed for the Harns racetrack betting scam to work. Right,
Speaker 1: So he's had this autotote desk, he accesses the off
Speaker 1: track betting system, he accesses David's tickets, he changes all
Speaker 1: the bets that he needed to change, and now they
Speaker 1: have all their four winning horses. So now it's half
Speaker 1: an hour to work. He's got to do a couple
Speaker 1: more things because they're at five oh one the fifth
Speaker 1: race will start and he's got to be all set
Speaker 1: by then, right, So to make sure that there's no
Speaker 1: record keeping of any of the things that he's doing,
Speaker 1: he erases the fingerprints of their crime. Brilliant, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking there's the digital fingerprints on this. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has to be logged into a system. You can't
Speaker 1: just change things. So what he does is he knew
Speaker 1: that all these transactions at the Catskills were recorded on
Speaker 1: a backup tape, right. So he then goes into the
Speaker 1: autotote system and I don't understand quite how he did this,
Speaker 1: but he was able to hack the system so that
Speaker 1: the Catskills backup tape was ejected from the VCR that
Speaker 1: was recorded on. He then calls the Catsules and said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I made a mistake at work. I ejected your security tape.
Speaker 1: Could you reboot that system? And so they reboot it,
Speaker 1: and so now they've erased any record of what he's
Speaker 1: just done. There is no evidence of their crime. It's
Speaker 1: like kind of genius, that is right. That's cool that
Speaker 1: he can inject tapes right now again. So all that
Speaker 1: was left to do now is have race five and
Speaker 1: race six run. So Race five goes, the winner is announced,
Speaker 1: Race six comes up, the Classic, the Breeders Cup. This
Speaker 1: is the race, Elizabeth. Yes, I would like you to
Speaker 1: close your eyes gladly and picture it. I am You're ready.
Speaker 1: You're at a racetrack. A horn blas announce him that
Speaker 1: his time for the next race. You're standing at the
Speaker 1: rail at Arlington Park. It is a beautiful palace dedicated
Speaker 1: to horse racing. It is a temple to betting. It
Speaker 1: is the house that the vig built. Now it's a
Speaker 1: cold day in October. It's a slate. Gray sky stretches
Speaker 1: above you, but they're you are. No storm clouds present,
Speaker 1: just a gray sky above you, gray Chicago day. You
Speaker 1: forty people all there to enjoy a race at a
Speaker 1: k the biggest payday and horse racing, the Breeders Cup.
Speaker 1: So you've lost track of the French couple who invited
Speaker 1: you to this race track and who brought you there.
Speaker 1: Theyveon wandered off, but you found this perfect spot to it.
Speaker 1: What did they? So? You found this perfect spot to
Speaker 1: watch the races. You're alone at the rail, just the
Speaker 1: way you like it. Right there before the finish line.
Speaker 1: You look across the track and the horses are getting
Speaker 1: loaded into the race gates. There's war emblem that's the
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby winner and a Preakness winner. He was the
Speaker 1: morning line favorite at this point. He's now three to
Speaker 1: one favorite. Powerful animal and very delicate legs. You've gotten
Speaker 1: into the spirit of things and you're just decided to
Speaker 1: place a bet on this last race. You look over
Speaker 1: at the odds and all the horses you're running, and
Speaker 1: the Breeders Cup Classic, and you're like, Okay, there's Mandaia
Speaker 1: Auro at seventy two odds. There's some other favorites. There's
Speaker 1: Came Home at four to one, hawk Wing at five
Speaker 1: to one, even a Gutires eight to one. Then, of
Speaker 1: course there's at the middle of the pack. You got
Speaker 1: Harlan's Holiday ten to one, e Do Bibe twelve to one,
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brew fifteen to one, if you want to get
Speaker 1: a little saucy. But then there's the group that your eyeball,
Speaker 1: and you got Macho Uno at one, perfect Drift and
Speaker 1: dollar Bill the thirty to one favorite. Finally Volponi one
Speaker 1: long shot. You allow to your horse. You know there's
Speaker 1: no connection between the names of the horses and the odds,
Speaker 1: but the more ridiculous to the name the worst of
Speaker 1: the odds, you're like, huh, that's my kind of right.
Speaker 1: Like Bob cass Is calling war m America's horse, and
Speaker 1: you're like, no, no, I want Vulpony. That is exactly
Speaker 1: how I would bet on you. Volpony is your horse
Speaker 1: and atty one long shot. He's had twenty two starts,
Speaker 1: six wins, seven places, three shows. You're super excited to
Speaker 1: see him take off. Milwaukee Brew is the last horse
Speaker 1: in the gate. The horses are loaded, You're ready. Everybody's hyped.
Speaker 1: The crowd is cheering. Boom and the starting pistol is fired.
Speaker 1: The race is underway. In your hot hand. You look
Speaker 1: at your ticket, says Vulpony, and your Volponi is racing,
Speaker 1: and they're off. The announcer booms. Horses thunder out of
Speaker 1: the gates, crushing dirt into the soil et by the
Speaker 1: early leader. When the dali Ora is a front runner,
Speaker 1: war Eblem is running in second. When they reached the
Speaker 1: first turn, Fillipony is on the inside rail and fit
Speaker 1: just behind Perfect Drift, Macho and it was in eight
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brown, ninth, ma Hawk Wing is unhurried in twelve
Speaker 1: twelve links beyond the leaders, the last horse of all,
Speaker 1: Dollar Bill. Perfect Drift comes along in third. Medalia I
Speaker 1: was in fourth. Your horse soul Pony isn't fifth. As
Speaker 1: they approached the far turn came home is coming up empty.
Speaker 1: The announcer proclaims, calling attention to the quietly quitting resource.
Speaker 1: Hark Wing has made his movies pacing horses on the
Speaker 1: outside with him his Milwaukee brew war Emblum takes over
Speaker 1: the lead. Mandalaiora is right there on his side. He
Speaker 1: looks like sunshine on his shoulder. As they round the
Speaker 1: fourth turn, Phillipony makes his move hard, charging through the
Speaker 1: middle of the back. Faull Pony moved to the inside rail.
Speaker 1: Full Pony passes war and bum Ful Pony passes the
Speaker 1: Dalia Deoro. Fullpony takes over the lead. He's on in
Speaker 1: front by himself. Oh Dilwaukee Brews run his ass off
Speaker 1: to take over third. And there's Macho Uo. He's moved
Speaker 1: into forth. All the crazy names are passing the favorites.
Speaker 1: The horses charge on the final straight away. Full Pony
Speaker 1: stretches his lead all the favorite He's got four links
Speaker 1: ahead and the final straight away all the Diora can watch.
Speaker 1: Bull Pony has won by six horse legs. Your, of course,
Speaker 1: is the winner. Bull Party Quack time out. That was amazing,
Speaker 1: So you're forty to one long shot. He wins this
Speaker 1: huge upset. No one saw this coming, no one but
Speaker 1: you and the three men who ragged the betting. That's it.
Speaker 1: You guys are the only winners. But what you don't
Speaker 1: know yet, but what you will soon learn is you
Speaker 1: just quitness the biggest betting scandal and horse racing in
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. To go down and after this
Speaker 1: break for some sweet sweet ads, I'll tell you how Harns,
Speaker 1: Silver and Davis got caught. Okay, Elizabeth, you're a brand
Speaker 1: new horse racing fans, right, that's just the excitement. But
Speaker 1: you know you've been on the rail. It's gonna set
Speaker 1: that aside over here that goes there. I love trains,
Speaker 1: That's what I know. That's what you meant. I didn't
Speaker 1: think you meant the cocaine, did I trains? Can I
Speaker 1: talk to you about trains? Yes you can, but to
Speaker 1: Silva would like to talk to you about the cocaine. So,
Speaker 1: of all the millions of dollars that were bet on
Speaker 1: the Breeders Cup Classic the Megapot, of the Pick six millions,
Speaker 1: there were a total of six winning tickets. Six people
Speaker 1: picked all six. The weird part is all six tickets
Speaker 1: belonged to Derek Davis was gonna say kind of a
Speaker 1: red flag to a lot of people. Like for instance,
Speaker 1: one of the stories I was reading, there was a
Speaker 1: guy named Jim Quinn who was billed as a veteran
Speaker 1: racetrack handicapper, which I they think means he hangs at
Speaker 1: a horse tracks. But anyway, he said at the time quote,
Speaker 1: when you heard that a payoff that was supposed to
Speaker 1: be three millions a little more than four hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: you knew something was up. So this is like the
Speaker 1: racetrack communities vibe. They're like, this ain't right. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say. So. The problem was that there was not
Speaker 1: just um the war emblem lost and Medallia the oral
Speaker 1: lost the two favorites. If I either favorite had one,
Speaker 1: no one probably would have noticed because people would have
Speaker 1: picked this right. But it turns out that this means
Speaker 1: Davis had picked four long shots out of his six
Speaker 1: winning horses, because remember there was early long shots. All
Speaker 1: the six races, four of them were won by long
Speaker 1: shot six tickets. That said this, and all the the
Speaker 1: first four races he picked all the right horses, and
Speaker 1: then in the second last two races he picked six horses.
Speaker 1: So that was it was a bunch of hinky stuff
Speaker 1: in these tracks, right, these bets. So people at the
Speaker 1: racetracks were like, I don't know about this. Meanwhile, David's like,
Speaker 1: pay me my money so really quickly, exactly, I got
Speaker 1: places to go. So you're a horse, the winner of
Speaker 1: vul Pony, the greatest horse, the greatest horse, yes, other
Speaker 1: than Zendia. That's the greatest horse of all time. The
Speaker 1: six planning tickets, Uh, they are a total of three million,
Speaker 1: sixties seven thousand, eight hundred twenty one dollars. That's the
Speaker 1: winning pots or three guys spent all get a mill
Speaker 1: all right, So four days after his stunning pick six back,
Speaker 1: Derrick Davis it gets interviewed by the New York Post,
Speaker 1: which is not the place I would go to for
Speaker 1: an interview if I was somebody trying to hide a crime.
Speaker 1: That's just me. They're suspicious as all. Sorry, but I
Speaker 1: mean think about like with the lotto, never go public
Speaker 1: with it. You don't want anyone to know who you are.
Speaker 1: You don't never go public. You know what do they say,
Speaker 1: like he shouldn't have your name in the paper only
Speaker 1: like birth, marriage, death or whatever. I say, zero times,
Speaker 1: keep your light under a bushel, sh out of the paper.
Speaker 1: So he always he tells in the ear post, Look
Speaker 1: I'm just lucky, and they're like, I don't know about that, man.
Speaker 1: How somebody's like, look, I was researching racehorses and that's
Speaker 1: just what I do. And people are like, no one
Speaker 1: believes you. Right, So vull Pony, did you know that
Speaker 1: name comes from? Then? I didn't know this. I had
Speaker 1: to look it up. V O L p O N.
Speaker 1: I Oh, is it like a I keep thinking like,
Speaker 1: do pani's silk? Is it like a fabric? Now? It
Speaker 1: was a post World War two modern Italian poet and
Speaker 1: writer Pony right, and I looked him up. He had
Speaker 1: one book called Il planeta irotable publish the n In
Speaker 1: that book, voll Pony tells the story of a dwarf,
Speaker 1: a goose, an elephant, and a baboon who all survived
Speaker 1: a nuclear holocaust that afterwards they all trek off together
Speaker 1: in search of a safe kingdom that they can all
Speaker 1: live in peace together. They brave dangers together, they battle
Speaker 1: the elements. They crossed the world. They survive biblical rains
Speaker 1: and floods, but they never find a safe place to
Speaker 1: live free from nuclear war. It's this really amazing premise
Speaker 1: attention too, like this desolate, depressing book and it sounds
Speaker 1: like it's my new favorite pot. It's like the opposite
Speaker 1: of the Life of Pie, but just like the like
Speaker 1: the bummer life of Pie, right, my new favorite place exactly.
Speaker 1: So there's this quote about vol ponies work. They said
Speaker 1: everything is pointless. Volpony is the Samuel Beckett of science fiction.
Speaker 1: I love this guy. So there's the inspiration for Volponi.
Speaker 1: You're winning horse, and Volpony is perfectly as the one
Speaker 1: to doom these frat bros. Everything is right anyway, You
Speaker 1: and your horse are dooming these frat bows race fixers
Speaker 1: because their plan was perfect. It was so perfect, only
Speaker 1: random chance doom them. They had erased the evidence of
Speaker 1: their crime before they committed the crime. That's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all they had to do was collect their winnings. But
Speaker 1: when Derrick Davis went to the track and he's like, look, man,
Speaker 1: pay me my money, they're like no, yeah, because we
Speaker 1: are bad men. Maybe you don't know this, but racetracks
Speaker 1: are run by real criminals, and we who are not
Speaker 1: giving up the money. We don't care if you have
Speaker 1: a winning ticket. In your hand, because we think this
Speaker 1: is suspicious as all hell, and until we have an investigation,
Speaker 1: I think anytime there's that big of a payout, they're
Speaker 1: going to have to they're gonna drag their feet. They
Speaker 1: will drag their feet exactly. We have to make sure
Speaker 1: everything is And the racetracking community also, I remember they're
Speaker 1: all in a snit about this to fix his in
Speaker 1: and this is off track betting, so everyone's convinced that
Speaker 1: this means they're always having to deal with this. This
Speaker 1: is not just one time. This is questioning the whole
Speaker 1: future of the betting. Six winning tickets and he holds
Speaker 1: all and he thinks he's gonna he's just gonna go
Speaker 1: up there and through all this. I like researching the
Speaker 1: ponies one six and they all have the same weird
Speaker 1: random pattern. So the company that's a charge of off
Speaker 1: track betting, they're like, this is not good for us,
Speaker 1: this big, this is bad. This is bad business, alright.
Speaker 1: So they're like, we need to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: and say tell the off track betting people were on this,
Speaker 1: don't worry. They go and they fire up an investigation.
Speaker 1: Doesn't take them long to find hard there's like's this guy. Right,
Speaker 1: So they call hard and like, man, we need to
Speaker 1: talk to you, and he's like, no, I can't. I'm busy.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of stuff to do. And they're like, no,
Speaker 1: your your job, man, you need to come in. He's
Speaker 1: like okay. So it comes in and he's like super
Speaker 1: like argumentative, standoffish. The company's like, yeah, we're thinking this
Speaker 1: is kind of like a sign of guilt, right, So
Speaker 1: then he goes home and then this boss calls him.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, harn remember that the last day you
Speaker 1: came in for work. And he's like, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: You're fired. So he's fired and uh. Then it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, at that point he gets real argument to
Speaker 1: be difficult. But then boss is like, man, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter anymore. We're also going to tell the authorities about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind at this point Harne is now married,
Speaker 1: he has a two year old child. This is not
Speaker 1: good for him. He's got home and now the first
Speaker 1: one to get busted is Derrick Davis because his name
Speaker 1: is on the tickets. Doesn't take long for the track
Speaker 1: investigations and the AUTOTOE people to get together with the
Speaker 1: federal investigators in the FBI, who all decided to look
Speaker 1: into this, and putting their heads together, they go, these
Speaker 1: winning tickets are bunko. And plus there's Derek Davis out
Speaker 1: there giving interviews to the New York Post. He decided
Speaker 1: trying to answer why it's his win was so suspicious,
Speaker 1: which is never a good thing to do. But here's
Speaker 1: one answer he gives that I found just a amazing.
Speaker 1: They're like, so your tickets were weird because you spent
Speaker 1: this much and did that, And he's like, I can
Speaker 1: explain that, and I quote from The New York Post.
Speaker 1: His fingers slipped on the telephone keypad and he inadvertently
Speaker 1: punched in bets of twelve dollars instead of two dollars.
Speaker 1: Then he confirmed a total of one thousand two and
Speaker 1: bets when he meant only wager two. Whoop. See finger
Speaker 1: my fat fingers, He says. You know he'd been eating chicken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got lucky, but these greasy little digits. I got
Speaker 1: coke on this finger. It slips sometimes. So Derreck Davis
Speaker 1: ties like, you know what, I'm gonna go on the
Speaker 1: aggressive because you know I do coke and I'd like
Speaker 1: to be aggressive. It's what I know the secret coke guy. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Derrick Davis is a secret cok guy. Da Silva is
Speaker 1: the real hard cook, two wolves within him. Derrick Davis
Speaker 1: is like that, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go hard in the paint with the coke and not
Speaker 1: tell anyone. He comes up just passed out somewhere. He
Speaker 1: starts saying things like and he has his lawyer saying
Speaker 1: this too. He's like, look, if they got proof that
Speaker 1: I did something wrong, then show it to me. If not,
Speaker 1: give me my money proof you want now. The New
Speaker 1: York Times goes and talks to his family and they're like, hey, congrats,
Speaker 1: And then his father's like, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are asking questions, but this is legit. And he says,
Speaker 1: and I quote, I know in the bottom of my
Speaker 1: heart that it's a legitimate. Bet. I got bad news
Speaker 1: for you. Pops Han into Silva. They get dragged into
Speaker 1: this when they also get named in a federal criminal complaint.
Speaker 1: It's co defendants. So now all three are co defendants
Speaker 1: under federal charges. Straight state lines, right and on the wire, Enrico,
Speaker 1: they got all of it. They're they're hitting they're hitting
Speaker 1: switches on this one right, So two weeks about two
Speaker 1: weeks to the day hitting the pick six on it. Hey,
Speaker 1: I saw what you did about This is about two
Speaker 1: weeks after Halloween, which was the day that harm was
Speaker 1: fired on all three. Was he dressed as like a bumblebee.
Speaker 1: That would be amazing you go in to get fired,
Speaker 1: you're dressed in the costume. You just see him walking
Speaker 1: out of the office park with his bumblebee costume and
Speaker 1: his head down in a box stuff. So he's still
Speaker 1: got there, like the b head on into the securities,
Speaker 1: come on stuff in getting into the central like it's
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Let's just say that happened. That happened.
Speaker 1: So he couldn't get his bubble wee wings and he
Speaker 1: closes the door, broke his wings. He gets home all sad, right,
Speaker 1: just wife's honey, what happened. He's like, I gotta go
Speaker 1: turn myself in tomorrow. And she's like, that's not good.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a lawyer of my own. So
Speaker 1: the three men they all get charged and released on bail.
Speaker 1: Two in bail. Right the next day, the men are
Speaker 1: all scheduled to appear in federal court. So when they
Speaker 1: arrived they're asked to perform apparently something that is routine,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know this routine drug tests. Both Derrick
Speaker 1: Davis and Glenda Silva failed their drug tests. They both
Speaker 1: get payed for cocaine frat bros to the end. Well,
Speaker 1: they figured, they're like, look, as long as we're here,
Speaker 1: let's do so when you said they have to do
Speaker 1: a routine, I thought was like a dance routine. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that number. They're like, do the thriller dance?
Speaker 1: Like do you guys know the old sauce shoe. So
Speaker 1: Derek Davis, Gonn Silva fail their drug test, and uh, Elizabeth,
Speaker 1: can you guess? Just because you know something? I tell
Speaker 1: the stories often the U S attorney is someone famous. Again,
Speaker 1: we have a famous U. S attorney two thousand two
Speaker 1: who is a prosecuting US attorney in this case on
Speaker 1: the East coast. East Coast. I'll give you a hint
Speaker 1: if you want, please, you would later run the FBI.
Speaker 1: Come yes, James Comey is the U. S attorney and
Speaker 1: he's in charge of bringing justice to this case. And
Speaker 1: he decides, you know what, I'm gonna do a little
Speaker 1: stand up routine. So every time he talks with the
Speaker 1: christ he starts like, you know, working too a quick five,
Speaker 1: all right? So he's like, Darren, things like they're they're
Speaker 1: asking him about, like do you guys have the evidence
Speaker 1: to bust these people? And he's like, yeah, well you
Speaker 1: have to understand. He starts comparing these guys to Robert
Speaker 1: Redford and Paul Newman in The Sting because he's like,
Speaker 1: I want you to understand what kind of guys are.
Speaker 1: They're like the guys in the Sting right. The press
Speaker 1: are eating it up. I'll tell us more. And so
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, hey, comey, these are frat bros. Would
Speaker 1: they one day being a movie? Will we all see
Speaker 1: you guys on the big screen and come me? He's like, no,
Speaker 1: the movie was already made, but with much better looking people.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's killing m so Comy he's he
Speaker 1: loves a fresh burn, you know. He's like, So he's
Speaker 1: in there, and Harn decides it if he ever wants
Speaker 1: to see his wife and young child again, he needs
Speaker 1: to take a plea deal and listen to Comy. So
Speaker 1: he takes Comy's offer, and that means the Mastermind has
Speaker 1: now rolled over on his frat bros. Some bonds just
Speaker 1: don't last. I guess his frat brow to Silva, right,
Speaker 1: he's been heated this whole time, just like Derrick Davis.
Speaker 1: Both of them are on the aggressive side. He's like
Speaker 1: the scant evidence, they can't prove this. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: I deny it, right, his lawyers denying it everything, until
Speaker 1: Harn decides, I'm gonna flip and tell the feds everything.
Speaker 1: But why do you say everything? He told them crimes
Speaker 1: they did not know about. So he he tells them
Speaker 1: about the unsold tickets. He tells them everything, so Hard
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, he spills his like He's like if
Speaker 1: you took up a glass of milk and just spilled it, right,
Speaker 1: But then he took another glass and threw that one down,
Speaker 1: and then you're like, where's the bottle? Right? So Derreck
Speaker 1: Davis immediately pleads guilty. The Silva pleads guilty because they
Speaker 1: don't have a leg to stand on them Hard he
Speaker 1: gets sentenced to one year and one day in prison
Speaker 1: because his judge has a sense of humor. He had
Speaker 1: a minimum security prison. To Silva gets two years in
Speaker 1: a federal prison. Derrick Davis catches the worst of it
Speaker 1: he gets thirty seven months, So three years one month
Speaker 1: in federal prison. Boom, I bet you learned your lesson
Speaker 1: now son, right. So what happened to the winnings? Did
Speaker 1: the track get to keep it? Did the mob go
Speaker 1: what money? We're just roll I would imagine just rolled
Speaker 1: over to the next one. No, they had to pay
Speaker 1: it out because of all the bad blood. So they
Speaker 1: decided breaking all traditions. There were forty two people who
Speaker 1: had guessed the correct five of six winners. They got
Speaker 1: to split the three point million dollar because they had
Speaker 1: to have some winners. I thought they'd give it to
Speaker 1: like the s A. No, no, they're not you. I
Speaker 1: got one lass surprise for you in this course of
Speaker 1: the course of this case. Okay, So the racetrack industry
Speaker 1: they're facing a problem because now the future off track
Speaker 1: betting looks like it's insolving and not legitimate, and that's
Speaker 1: going to be a big issue. So they say, how
Speaker 1: do we save the dignity of our sport? So who
Speaker 1: do you think they call in to save the dignity
Speaker 1: of horse trek racing? Rudy Giuliani, Yes, Judy Ruliani makes
Speaker 1: an appearance. Remember November two thousand two. This is a
Speaker 1: very different Rudy Giuliani because now we think of America. Now,
Speaker 1: I will forever see the hair dye rolling down the
Speaker 1: side of his face. And one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: the four season Worse landscaping. I have a T shirt
Speaker 1: for four seasons landscaping that they were all the time
Speaker 1: because that's that was the greatest thing, and I like,
Speaker 1: I needed it. It's the gift that keeps giving. So
Speaker 1: that's the Giuliani we know, but that's not the Giuliani.
Speaker 1: He did the job back then. Everyone's like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: saved horse track racing essentially because he restored dignity. He did,
Speaker 1: like this whole report. He had his security team because
Speaker 1: he was he was had Giuliani and partners. They're basically,
Speaker 1: we do security. It's like him and like Bernard character
Speaker 1: got into security after nine eleven, right, So he's sitting
Speaker 1: there doing that and so they're like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a security issue. So he has his team is
Speaker 1: cracked team security going there the Judy rule, any seal
Speaker 1: of approval. He was like, you need a horse track
Speaker 1: bettings are and you need to update your technology. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're on it. Right, So then everyone else the betters
Speaker 1: were like, well it's been fixed, so horse track betting
Speaker 1: and racing was able to continue on. It was like
Speaker 1: a real crisis, and then all the horses started dying.
Speaker 1: That that's the modern crisis. Yes, that's why you do
Speaker 1: not like horse track. Guess I understand. Well, I got
Speaker 1: one last one for as I told you. Yes, so
Speaker 1: this is a final irony of this one. The very
Speaker 1: next year, someone want to pick six at the Breeders Cup. No, no,
Speaker 1: everyone lost their minds. This cannot be happening again. And
Speaker 1: one exactly know. It turns out that it was a
Speaker 1: better was a businessman. He was a regular better. He
Speaker 1: walked into a adding parlor in South Dakota where he
Speaker 1: normally placed bets on races all across the country and
Speaker 1: stretching to Dubai and Australia. He was a better, right,
Speaker 1: So when his bed hit, naturally everybody knew him. He
Speaker 1: was investigating. They're like, oh, yeah, that's just soaked him
Speaker 1: for that amount, and he's pretty much he basically not
Speaker 1: he broke even so he won two point six million
Speaker 1: and broke even exactly that one. What is our ridiculous
Speaker 1: takeaway from dis one. Well, we have a couple lessons learned.
Speaker 1: Don't steal more than you can carry, yes, good one.
Speaker 1: Don't do business with cokeheads. That's another good one, which
Speaker 1: is just you know, pretty standard. Um and I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then Rudy Giliani will stay for us. There you go.
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that one. I did very much,
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