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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio y

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Burnett. Do you know what's ridiculous? I do? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll hit me with it. It is ridiculous to see

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Speaker 1: a tow truck towing a tow truck, or as my

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Speaker 1: nephew says, do you know what see dickies a tow

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Speaker 1: truck to toe truck. See ridiculous. That's all I have.

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Speaker 1: How's it good? Though? Everything is ridiculous, and the way

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Speaker 1: he says it makes it extra ridiculous. I like that, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: I have got a very special story for you today,

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Speaker 1: and it is ciculous. I like to feel special. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's two things that I know you love too. Great

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Speaker 1: taste that tastes great together. Yeah, horse racing and fraternity brothers.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, top of my list on those. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be great. This is a Ridiculous Crime, a podcast

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Speaker 1: about absurd and outrageous capers. Heis and cons always free

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Speaker 1: and ridiculous. Okay, Now, as I promised, Elizabeth, I have

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Speaker 1: a hell of a story for your two great loves,

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Speaker 1: the American college fraternity system and horse racing. So let's

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Speaker 1: just start at the top. Frat parties you love them?

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Speaker 1: How many did you go to in college? Zero? Oh? Wow?

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Speaker 1: I did not ever go to one, not even by mistake,

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Speaker 1: not even like a friend dragged you. Did you try

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Speaker 1: to avoid them? Were you? Do you have a rule

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Speaker 1: against I just had zero interest in attending all. I

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Speaker 1: worked at the print shop on campus and used to

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Speaker 1: They all had accounts with us, and they'd come in

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Speaker 1: and make flyers. You knew about the parties, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: like when they were when they were and they were

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Speaker 1: and would just just say mean things to me when

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Speaker 1: would come in and be like hey, yeah, they'd be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like hey you freaquent, your frea waving money

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Speaker 1: at you like you Now. I had blue hair that

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Speaker 1: seemed to really like tick them off. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There was funded by your freakish flag. And some of

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Speaker 1: them were so rude to me and like offensive that

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Speaker 1: if I saw them walk in, I wouldn't go to

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Speaker 1: the counter and all my pals, all the guys. I

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Speaker 1: watch this. Yeah. So, I mean, I just but I

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Speaker 1: second question, Yes, horse racing. How many days have you

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Speaker 1: horse race. You've been to one? Well, it was at

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Speaker 1: the County Fair. County Fair, and they you know, I

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Speaker 1: then you have from some familiarity none with the frat

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Speaker 1: time to meet our fred bros. Right okay? Or Their

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Speaker 1: names are Chris Harn like um Ham, but with an

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Speaker 1: no no like and like ninja. Yeah okay. Harn he's

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Speaker 1: the brains of this. And then there's Glenn Da Silva.

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Speaker 1: one win. It wasn't like a big deal. Well, the

424
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Speaker 1: the the race at Belmont, they win a hundred and

425
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars boom. That would be enough to get

426
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: out or for Disilva to buy mountains of cocaine, right,

427
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: But Silva's like, no, I need more mountains of cocaine. Right,

428
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: So he's like, by the way, he takes that hundred

429
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: and five thousand dollars. They split it evenly, right, to Silva,

430
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,479
Speaker 1: goes out, he buys vodka, cocaine and some ubers or whatever. Right,

431
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 1: he blows it real fast. Harm does what you said it.

432
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: He spends dollars to pay off his second mortgage he takes.

433
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: He pays off the remainder of his car, and then

434
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: he makes one mistake. He emails to Silva all about

435
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's like, take this money, put it

436
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: into my mortgage. Take this money, and he's telling them

437
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: how to spend the winning So he creates a paper

438
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: trail that will come back to bite him. Or as

439
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: my man Stringer Bell from the Wire would say, never

440
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: take notes on a criminal conspiracy. Of course he said

441
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: it more colorfully than that, but you get the idea.

442
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: So things are going well for these guys, right, and

443
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: they're like, oh we should you know, now go for

444
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: our big one. We're gonna go and take on the

445
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: Breeders Cup million dollar prize. But as with all things,

446
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: there are the natural laws of crime. And now, Elizabeth,

447
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: you know about gravity, one of my favorite subjects. Been

448
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: in a lifelong feud with gravity of gravity. Yes, you

449
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: know as well, Harsh Mistress. Well, just like how there

450
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: are the natural laws like of gravity. What goes up

451
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: must come down. They are also the natural laws of crime. Okay.

452
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: For instance, Newton's third law of motion states that for

453
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Well, there

454
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: is also a third law of crime dynamics, which I'm

455
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: making up as we speak. I'm in the third law

456
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: of by imagining crime dynamics. It states that never steal

457
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: more than you can carry. That's a good one, right,

458
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty solid. Now. Anyway, in this case, what

459
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 1: that means is, don't try to gang something that's so

460
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: big that when you try to get away with it,

461
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: you wind up leaving a trail that leads right to you.

462
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's like if you bake up

463
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 1: a bag of flour and it's just leaking. Yeah, So

464
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: that basically good, very good. So what these two brain

465
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: genius frat brows decided to do is rope in another

466
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: frat brow because we're like, for our big score, we're

467
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna need somebody else other than just so. So Harn's

468
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: like because basically, you know, he's done to personality in

469
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: dex he knows who is a former room. He's like,

470
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: this guy is going to get me busted. Now can

471
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: you imagine pulling off a billion dollar scam with a

472
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: coquette as your partner? Right, Like, you gotta respect Harn

473
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: for at least recognizing that one. But instead he's like,

474
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Speaker 1: how about I pick my old former engineering buddy, Derrick Davis,

475
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: who happens to be an undercover co kid. He didn't know.

476
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Derreck Davis is more mathematical logical I told you, engineering student,

477
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: than to Silva. But he's also, as I said earlier,

478
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: a party boy too. He's a little bit of a snowstone.

479
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: So October twenty six, the big day two Thou two

480
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: the Breeders cup rolls around. Now we've got Harn, Da, Silva,

481
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: and Derrick Davis all lined up to run a frat

482
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: boy I don't way say triple team, but basically they're

483
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna run a scam, all right, I'll just

484
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: leave it at that. So Harn contacts the Catskill off

485
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Speaker 1: Track betting facility and he sets up an account for

486
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Speaker 1: Derrick Davis. He then places his bets in Derrick davis name. Yea,

487
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't even go to the facility. He just got

488
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: an account open for him. He's going through the autotote system,

489
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: and you have to understand that he's able to do

490
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff I'll get into in a second,

491
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: But basically Harn does his normal thing. He had buys

492
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: tickets for Derrick Davis, and each of the the first

493
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: four races, he picks the same horses to win, and

494
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Speaker 1: then for the fifth horse in the sixth the sixth race,

495
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: he has a combination. He's like, we touched, decide will

496
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: pick these, So they pick basically all the horses. Yeah,

497
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: and what that means is that he would have like

498
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: nineties six combinations, possible winning combinations. Right now, the horses

499
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: names that we're talking about, I think you would have

500
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,959
Speaker 1: a great time naming a race. Love racehorse names, right.

501
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: I think I wish that that was a job that

502
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: you could be like, you know what they say, dressed

503
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: for the job you want. I don't know how to

504
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: dress for I name horses. Well, I think your outfit

505
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: now is pretty good, pretty close. Yeah, the black cowboy

506
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: in the sweaty pick cowboy and the short shorts, yeah

507
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: on the crop top is so good. Thank you. I

508
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: got dress up today. I want to look special. Thank you.

509
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: So these racehorses, the winning horses. I'll just run down

510
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: their names. Harren had a ticket with the names that

511
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: he would eventually change too. So these are the not

512
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: the names he bought the tickets. These are the winning

513
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: the horses that he would switch to once he dips

514
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: back into the autotote system and he would correct it

515
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: so that it reads take Charge Lady to win race one,

516
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: Storm Flag Flying to win race two, Dome Driver in

517
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: race three to beat the favorite of Gibraltar, and Orientate

518
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: in race four to outpace Thunderrella. Okay, so for race

519
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: five and six though, they just have the open spots.

520
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Although he's picked all of the horses right, so they

521
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: don't know. It'll just be one of them. And we'll

522
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: get to that in a second. Right, So harn Davis

523
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: has got his tickets. They purchased six tickets with all

524
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: these combinations to cost them two dollars. Right now, it's

525
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: time for harn to get busy. So what does he do?

526
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: Pops over into his like recently paid off car drives

527
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: to work. Now there's a problem with this. He's not

528
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: scheduled to work that day. And if you've ever gone

529
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: to work on the day you're not scheduled to working.

530
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: People notice a little suspect. They're like, what's up with that?

531
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: I hate this place. I'm not coming back here. Where

532
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: are you here? Some people notice and they did any Meanwhile,

533
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: Frat brother Derrick Davis calls up Harn on his cell phone,

534
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: so there is a trail between the two of them,

535
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: constantly contacting each other. On this day. Another thing you

536
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: don't want to do, so Harn meanwhile, is that work suspicious?

537
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Is all Hell talking on his cell phone with his

538
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: future co defendant, and the two men go over every

539
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: last minute detail right what they hadn't planned for though,

540
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: because they got everything nailed down. The only thing they

541
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: hadn't planned on this thing. Always I always recommend people

542
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: pay attention to. It's something called the unexpected or random chance,

543
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: or what gamblers like to call bad luck, the known unknowns,

544
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: the unknown unknowns exactly. Rumsfeld new It's one thing I

545
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: got to give him credit up. So the horse that

546
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Dome Driver, he was a twenty six

547
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: to one long shot, twenty six to one right, he

548
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: wins an early race against Rock at Gibraltar. This ruined

549
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: most folks chance at winning the picture. Almost all of

550
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: them had picked Rock at Gibraltar. Right now, the track

551
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: officials assume that means about of the four point seven

552
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: million dollars worth of tickets sold and the bets, they're

553
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: all invalidated. Now it's only the bets that continue pass

554
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: like the third race. Okay, so there's now no really

555
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 1: large legitimate group of betters for harn Davis and Da

556
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Silva to like hide out in right for or thirty

557
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: The fourth race starts and after that race is one,

558
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: the winner gets announced. Now it's time for the final

559
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: horse needed for the Harns racetrack betting scam to work. Right,

560
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: So he's had this autotote desk, he accesses the off

561
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: track betting system, he accesses David's tickets, he changes all

562
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: the bets that he needed to change, and now they

563
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: have all their four winning horses. So now it's half

564
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: an hour to work. He's got to do a couple

565
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: more things because they're at five oh one the fifth

566
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: race will start and he's got to be all set

567
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: by then, right, So to make sure that there's no

568
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: record keeping of any of the things that he's doing,

569
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: he erases the fingerprints of their crime. Brilliant, right, Yeah,

570
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: I was thinking there's the digital fingerprints on this. I mean,

571
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: he has to be logged into a system. You can't

572
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: just change things. So what he does is he knew

573
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: that all these transactions at the Catskills were recorded on

574
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: a backup tape, right. So he then goes into the

575
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: autotote system and I don't understand quite how he did this,

576
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: but he was able to hack the system so that

577
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: the Catskills backup tape was ejected from the VCR that

578
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: was recorded on. He then calls the Catsules and said, hey, man,

579
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: I made a mistake at work. I ejected your security tape.

580
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: Could you reboot that system? And so they reboot it,

581
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: and so now they've erased any record of what he's

582
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: just done. There is no evidence of their crime. It's

583
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: like kind of genius, that is right. That's cool that

584
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: he can inject tapes right now again. So all that

585
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: was left to do now is have race five and

586
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: race six run. So Race five goes, the winner is announced,

587
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: Race six comes up, the Classic, the Breeders Cup. This

588
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: is the race, Elizabeth. Yes, I would like you to

589
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: close your eyes gladly and picture it. I am You're ready.

590
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: You're at a racetrack. A horn blas announce him that

591
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: his time for the next race. You're standing at the

592
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: rail at Arlington Park. It is a beautiful palace dedicated

593
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: to horse racing. It is a temple to betting. It

594
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: is the house that the vig built. Now it's a

595
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: cold day in October. It's a slate. Gray sky stretches

596
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: above you, but they're you are. No storm clouds present,

597
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: just a gray sky above you, gray Chicago day. You

598
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: forty people all there to enjoy a race at a

599
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: k the biggest payday and horse racing, the Breeders Cup.

600
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: So you've lost track of the French couple who invited

601
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: you to this race track and who brought you there.

602
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Theyveon wandered off, but you found this perfect spot to it.

603
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: What did they? So? You found this perfect spot to

604
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: watch the races. You're alone at the rail, just the

605
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: way you like it. Right there before the finish line.

606
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: You look across the track and the horses are getting

607
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: loaded into the race gates. There's war emblem that's the

608
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby winner and a Preakness winner. He was the

609
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: morning line favorite at this point. He's now three to

610
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: one favorite. Powerful animal and very delicate legs. You've gotten

611
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: into the spirit of things and you're just decided to

612
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: place a bet on this last race. You look over

613
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: at the odds and all the horses you're running, and

614
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: the Breeders Cup Classic, and you're like, Okay, there's Mandaia

615
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: Auro at seventy two odds. There's some other favorites. There's

616
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: Came Home at four to one, hawk Wing at five

617
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: to one, even a Gutires eight to one. Then, of

618
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: course there's at the middle of the pack. You got

619
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: Harlan's Holiday ten to one, e Do Bibe twelve to one,

620
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brew fifteen to one, if you want to get

621
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: a little saucy. But then there's the group that your eyeball,

622
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: and you got Macho Uno at one, perfect Drift and

623
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: dollar Bill the thirty to one favorite. Finally Volponi one

624
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: long shot. You allow to your horse. You know there's

625
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: no connection between the names of the horses and the odds,

626
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: but the more ridiculous to the name the worst of

627
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: the odds, you're like, huh, that's my kind of right.

628
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Like Bob cass Is calling war m America's horse, and

629
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: you're like, no, no, I want Vulpony. That is exactly

630
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: how I would bet on you. Volpony is your horse

631
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: and atty one long shot. He's had twenty two starts,

632
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: six wins, seven places, three shows. You're super excited to

633
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: see him take off. Milwaukee Brew is the last horse

634
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: in the gate. The horses are loaded, You're ready. Everybody's hyped.

635
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: The crowd is cheering. Boom and the starting pistol is fired.

636
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: The race is underway. In your hot hand. You look

637
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: at your ticket, says Vulpony, and your Volponi is racing,

638
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: and they're off. The announcer booms. Horses thunder out of

639
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: the gates, crushing dirt into the soil et by the

640
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: early leader. When the dali Ora is a front runner,

641
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: war Eblem is running in second. When they reached the

642
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: first turn, Fillipony is on the inside rail and fit

643
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: just behind Perfect Drift, Macho and it was in eight

644
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brown, ninth, ma Hawk Wing is unhurried in twelve

645
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: twelve links beyond the leaders, the last horse of all,

646
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Dollar Bill. Perfect Drift comes along in third. Medalia I

647
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: was in fourth. Your horse soul Pony isn't fifth. As

648
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: they approached the far turn came home is coming up empty.

649
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: The announcer proclaims, calling attention to the quietly quitting resource.

650
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Hark Wing has made his movies pacing horses on the

651
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: outside with him his Milwaukee brew war Emblum takes over

652
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: the lead. Mandalaiora is right there on his side. He

653
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: looks like sunshine on his shoulder. As they round the

654
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: fourth turn, Phillipony makes his move hard, charging through the

655
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: middle of the back. Faull Pony moved to the inside rail.

656
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: Full Pony passes war and bum Ful Pony passes the

657
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Dalia Deoro. Fullpony takes over the lead. He's on in

658
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: front by himself. Oh Dilwaukee Brews run his ass off

659
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: to take over third. And there's Macho Uo. He's moved

660
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: into forth. All the crazy names are passing the favorites.

661
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: The horses charge on the final straight away. Full Pony

662
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: stretches his lead all the favorite He's got four links

663
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: ahead and the final straight away all the Diora can watch.

664
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: Bull Pony has won by six horse legs. Your, of course,

665
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: is the winner. Bull Party Quack time out. That was amazing,

666
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: So you're forty to one long shot. He wins this

667
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: huge upset. No one saw this coming, no one but

668
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: you and the three men who ragged the betting. That's it.

669
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: You guys are the only winners. But what you don't

670
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: know yet, but what you will soon learn is you

671
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: just quitness the biggest betting scandal and horse racing in

672
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. To go down and after this

673
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: break for some sweet sweet ads, I'll tell you how Harns,

674
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Silver and Davis got caught. Okay, Elizabeth, you're a brand

675
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: new horse racing fans, right, that's just the excitement. But

676
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: you know you've been on the rail. It's gonna set

677
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: that aside over here that goes there. I love trains,

678
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: That's what I know. That's what you meant. I didn't

679
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: think you meant the cocaine, did I trains? Can I

680
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: talk to you about trains? Yes you can, but to

681
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: Silva would like to talk to you about the cocaine. So,

682
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: of all the millions of dollars that were bet on

683
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: the Breeders Cup Classic the Megapot, of the Pick six millions,

684
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: there were a total of six winning tickets. Six people

685
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: picked all six. The weird part is all six tickets

686
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: belonged to Derek Davis was gonna say kind of a

687
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: red flag to a lot of people. Like for instance,

688
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: one of the stories I was reading, there was a

689
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: guy named Jim Quinn who was billed as a veteran

690
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: racetrack handicapper, which I they think means he hangs at

691
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: a horse tracks. But anyway, he said at the time quote,

692
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: when you heard that a payoff that was supposed to

693
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: be three millions a little more than four hundred thousand,

694
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: you knew something was up. So this is like the

695
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: racetrack communities vibe. They're like, this ain't right. Well, yeah,

696
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I'd say. So. The problem was that there was not

697
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: just um the war emblem lost and Medallia the oral

698
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: lost the two favorites. If I either favorite had one,

699
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: no one probably would have noticed because people would have

700
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: picked this right. But it turns out that this means

701
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Davis had picked four long shots out of his six

702
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: winning horses, because remember there was early long shots. All

703
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: the six races, four of them were won by long

704
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: shot six tickets. That said this, and all the the

705
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: first four races he picked all the right horses, and

706
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: then in the second last two races he picked six horses.

707
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: So that was it was a bunch of hinky stuff

708
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: in these tracks, right, these bets. So people at the

709
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: racetracks were like, I don't know about this. Meanwhile, David's like,

710
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: pay me my money so really quickly, exactly, I got

711
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: places to go. So you're a horse, the winner of

712
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: vul Pony, the greatest horse, the greatest horse, yes, other

713
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: than Zendia. That's the greatest horse of all time. The

714
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: six planning tickets, Uh, they are a total of three million,

715
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: sixties seven thousand, eight hundred twenty one dollars. That's the

716
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: winning pots or three guys spent all get a mill

717
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: all right, So four days after his stunning pick six back,

718
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Derrick Davis it gets interviewed by the New York Post,

719
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: which is not the place I would go to for

720
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: an interview if I was somebody trying to hide a crime.

721
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: That's just me. They're suspicious as all. Sorry, but I

722
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: mean think about like with the lotto, never go public

723
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: with it. You don't want anyone to know who you are.

724
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 1: You don't never go public. You know what do they say,

725
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: like he shouldn't have your name in the paper only

726
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: like birth, marriage, death or whatever. I say, zero times,

727
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: keep your light under a bushel, sh out of the paper.

728
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: So he always he tells in the ear post, Look

729
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm just lucky, and they're like, I don't know about that, man.

730
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: How somebody's like, look, I was researching racehorses and that's

731
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: just what I do. And people are like, no one

732
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: believes you. Right, So vull Pony, did you know that

733
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: name comes from? Then? I didn't know this. I had

734
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: to look it up. V O L p O N.

735
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: I Oh, is it like a I keep thinking like,

736
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: do pani's silk? Is it like a fabric? Now? It

737
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: was a post World War two modern Italian poet and

738
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: writer Pony right, and I looked him up. He had

739
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: one book called Il planeta irotable publish the n In

740
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: that book, voll Pony tells the story of a dwarf,

741
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: a goose, an elephant, and a baboon who all survived

742
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: a nuclear holocaust that afterwards they all trek off together

743
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: in search of a safe kingdom that they can all

744
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: live in peace together. They brave dangers together, they battle

745
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: the elements. They crossed the world. They survive biblical rains

746
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: and floods, but they never find a safe place to

747
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: live free from nuclear war. It's this really amazing premise

748
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: attention too, like this desolate, depressing book and it sounds

749
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: like it's my new favorite pot. It's like the opposite

750
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: of the Life of Pie, but just like the like

751
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: the bummer life of Pie, right, my new favorite place exactly.

752
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: So there's this quote about vol ponies work. They said

753
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: everything is pointless. Volpony is the Samuel Beckett of science fiction.

754
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: I love this guy. So there's the inspiration for Volponi.

755
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: You're winning horse, and Volpony is perfectly as the one

756
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: to doom these frat bros. Everything is right anyway, You

757
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: and your horse are dooming these frat bows race fixers

758
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: because their plan was perfect. It was so perfect, only

759
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: random chance doom them. They had erased the evidence of

760
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: their crime before they committed the crime. That's amazing. Yeah,

761
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: all they had to do was collect their winnings. But

762
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: when Derrick Davis went to the track and he's like, look, man,

763
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: pay me my money, they're like no, yeah, because we

764
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: are bad men. Maybe you don't know this, but racetracks

765
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: are run by real criminals, and we who are not

766
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: giving up the money. We don't care if you have

767
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: a winning ticket. In your hand, because we think this

768
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: is suspicious as all hell, and until we have an investigation,

769
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: I think anytime there's that big of a payout, they're

770
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: going to have to they're gonna drag their feet. They

771
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: will drag their feet exactly. We have to make sure

772
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: everything is And the racetracking community also, I remember they're

773
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: all in a snit about this to fix his in

774
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: and this is off track betting, so everyone's convinced that

775
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: this means they're always having to deal with this. This

776
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: is not just one time. This is questioning the whole

777
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: future of the betting. Six winning tickets and he holds

778
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: all and he thinks he's gonna he's just gonna go

779
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: up there and through all this. I like researching the

780
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: ponies one six and they all have the same weird

781
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: random pattern. So the company that's a charge of off

782
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: track betting, they're like, this is not good for us,

783
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: this big, this is bad. This is bad business, alright.

784
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: So they're like, we need to get to the bottom

785
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: and say tell the off track betting people were on this,

786
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: don't worry. They go and they fire up an investigation.

787
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't take them long to find hard there's like's this guy. Right,

788
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: So they call hard and like, man, we need to

789
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: talk to you, and he's like, no, I can't. I'm busy.

790
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: I got a lot of stuff to do. And they're like, no,

791
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: your your job, man, you need to come in. He's

792
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: like okay. So it comes in and he's like super

793
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: like argumentative, standoffish. The company's like, yeah, we're thinking this

794
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: is kind of like a sign of guilt, right, So

795
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: then he goes home and then this boss calls him.

796
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, harn remember that the last day you

797
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: came in for work. And he's like, yeah, it was.

798
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: You're fired. So he's fired and uh. Then it's like,

799
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, at that point he gets real argument to

800
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: be difficult. But then boss is like, man, it doesn't

801
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: matter anymore. We're also going to tell the authorities about this. Yeah.

802
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Now keep in mind at this point Harne is now married,

803
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: he has a two year old child. This is not

804
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: good for him. He's got home and now the first

805
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: one to get busted is Derrick Davis because his name

806
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: is on the tickets. Doesn't take long for the track

807
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: investigations and the AUTOTOE people to get together with the

808
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: federal investigators in the FBI, who all decided to look

809
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: into this, and putting their heads together, they go, these

810
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: winning tickets are bunko. And plus there's Derek Davis out

811
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: there giving interviews to the New York Post. He decided

812
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: trying to answer why it's his win was so suspicious,

813
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: which is never a good thing to do. But here's

814
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: one answer he gives that I found just a amazing.

815
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: They're like, so your tickets were weird because you spent

816
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: this much and did that, And he's like, I can

817
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: explain that, and I quote from The New York Post.

818
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: His fingers slipped on the telephone keypad and he inadvertently

819
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: punched in bets of twelve dollars instead of two dollars.

820
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: Then he confirmed a total of one thousand two and

821
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: bets when he meant only wager two. Whoop. See finger

822
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: my fat fingers, He says. You know he'd been eating chicken. Yeah,

823
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: I got lucky, but these greasy little digits. I got

824
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: coke on this finger. It slips sometimes. So Derreck Davis

825
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: ties like, you know what, I'm gonna go on the

826
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: aggressive because you know I do coke and I'd like

827
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: to be aggressive. It's what I know the secret coke guy. Right, Yeah,

828
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Derrick Davis is a secret cok guy. Da Silva is

829
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: the real hard cook, two wolves within him. Derrick Davis

830
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: is like that, you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna

831
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: go hard in the paint with the coke and not

832
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: tell anyone. He comes up just passed out somewhere. He

833
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: starts saying things like and he has his lawyer saying

834
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: this too. He's like, look, if they got proof that

835
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I did something wrong, then show it to me. If not,

836
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: give me my money proof you want now. The New

837
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: York Times goes and talks to his family and they're like, hey, congrats,

838
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: And then his father's like, I know a lot of

839
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: people are asking questions, but this is legit. And he says,

840
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: and I quote, I know in the bottom of my

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Speaker 1: heart that it's a legitimate. Bet. I got bad news

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00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: for you. Pops Han into Silva. They get dragged into

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: this when they also get named in a federal criminal complaint.

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00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: It's co defendants. So now all three are co defendants

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Speaker 1: under federal charges. Straight state lines, right and on the wire, Enrico,

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Speaker 1: they got all of it. They're they're hitting they're hitting

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Speaker 1: switches on this one right, So two weeks about two

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Speaker 1: weeks to the day hitting the pick six on it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I saw what you did about This is about two

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Speaker 1: weeks after Halloween, which was the day that harm was

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00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: fired on all three. Was he dressed as like a bumblebee.

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00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: That would be amazing you go in to get fired,

853
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: you're dressed in the costume. You just see him walking

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00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: out of the office park with his bumblebee costume and

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00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: his head down in a box stuff. So he's still

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00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: got there, like the b head on into the securities,

857
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: come on stuff in getting into the central like it's

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Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Let's just say that happened. That happened.

859
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: So he couldn't get his bubble wee wings and he

860
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: closes the door, broke his wings. He gets home all sad, right,

861
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: just wife's honey, what happened. He's like, I gotta go

862
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: turn myself in tomorrow. And she's like, that's not good.

863
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a lawyer of my own. So

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00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: the three men they all get charged and released on bail.

865
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: Two in bail. Right the next day, the men are

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00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: all scheduled to appear in federal court. So when they

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00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: arrived they're asked to perform apparently something that is routine,

868
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't know this routine drug tests. Both Derrick

869
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: Davis and Glenda Silva failed their drug tests. They both

870
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: get payed for cocaine frat bros to the end. Well,

871
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: they figured, they're like, look, as long as we're here,

872
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: let's do so when you said they have to do

873
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: a routine, I thought was like a dance routine. I

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00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: didn't know that number. They're like, do the thriller dance?

875
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Like do you guys know the old sauce shoe. So

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00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: Derek Davis, Gonn Silva fail their drug test, and uh, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: can you guess? Just because you know something? I tell

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Speaker 1: the stories often the U S attorney is someone famous. Again,

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00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: we have a famous U. S attorney two thousand two

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00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: who is a prosecuting US attorney in this case on

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00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: the East coast. East Coast. I'll give you a hint

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00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: if you want, please, you would later run the FBI.

883
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Come yes, James Comey is the U. S attorney and

884
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: he's in charge of bringing justice to this case. And

885
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: he decides, you know what, I'm gonna do a little

886
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: stand up routine. So every time he talks with the

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00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: christ he starts like, you know, working too a quick five,

888
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: all right? So he's like, Darren, things like they're they're

889
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: asking him about, like do you guys have the evidence

890
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: to bust these people? And he's like, yeah, well you

891
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: have to understand. He starts comparing these guys to Robert

892
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: Redford and Paul Newman in The Sting because he's like,

893
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: I want you to understand what kind of guys are.

894
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: They're like the guys in the Sting right. The press

895
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: are eating it up. I'll tell us more. And so

896
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, hey, comey, these are frat bros. Would

897
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: they one day being a movie? Will we all see

898
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: you guys on the big screen and come me? He's like, no,

899
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: the movie was already made, but with much better looking people.

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00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's killing m so Comy he's he

901
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: loves a fresh burn, you know. He's like, So he's

902
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: in there, and Harn decides it if he ever wants

903
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: to see his wife and young child again, he needs

904
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: to take a plea deal and listen to Comy. So

905
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: he takes Comy's offer, and that means the Mastermind has

906
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: now rolled over on his frat bros. Some bonds just

907
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: don't last. I guess his frat brow to Silva, right,

908
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: he's been heated this whole time, just like Derrick Davis.

909
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: Both of them are on the aggressive side. He's like

910
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: the scant evidence, they can't prove this. He's like, no,

911
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: I deny it, right, his lawyers denying it everything, until

912
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: Harn decides, I'm gonna flip and tell the feds everything.

913
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: But why do you say everything? He told them crimes

914
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: they did not know about. So he he tells them

915
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: about the unsold tickets. He tells them everything, so Hard

916
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, he spills his like He's like if

917
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: you took up a glass of milk and just spilled it, right,

918
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: But then he took another glass and threw that one down,

919
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: and then you're like, where's the bottle? Right? So Derreck

920
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: Davis immediately pleads guilty. The Silva pleads guilty because they

921
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: don't have a leg to stand on them Hard he

922
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: gets sentenced to one year and one day in prison

923
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: because his judge has a sense of humor. He had

924
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: a minimum security prison. To Silva gets two years in

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00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: a federal prison. Derrick Davis catches the worst of it

926
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: he gets thirty seven months, So three years one month

927
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: in federal prison. Boom, I bet you learned your lesson

928
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: now son, right. So what happened to the winnings? Did

929
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: the track get to keep it? Did the mob go

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00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: what money? We're just roll I would imagine just rolled

931
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: over to the next one. No, they had to pay

932
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: it out because of all the bad blood. So they

933
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: decided breaking all traditions. There were forty two people who

934
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: had guessed the correct five of six winners. They got

935
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: to split the three point million dollar because they had

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00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: to have some winners. I thought they'd give it to

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00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: like the s A. No, no, they're not you. I

938
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: got one lass surprise for you in this course of

939
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: the course of this case. Okay, So the racetrack industry

940
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: they're facing a problem because now the future off track

941
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: betting looks like it's insolving and not legitimate, and that's

942
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: going to be a big issue. So they say, how

943
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: do we save the dignity of our sport? So who

944
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: do you think they call in to save the dignity

945
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: of horse trek racing? Rudy Giuliani, Yes, Judy Ruliani makes

946
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: an appearance. Remember November two thousand two. This is a

947
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: very different Rudy Giuliani because now we think of America. Now,

948
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: I will forever see the hair dye rolling down the

949
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: side of his face. And one of my favorite things

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00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: the four season Worse landscaping. I have a T shirt

951
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: for four seasons landscaping that they were all the time

952
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: because that's that was the greatest thing, and I like,

953
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: I needed it. It's the gift that keeps giving. So

954
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: that's the Giuliani we know, but that's not the Giuliani.

955
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: He did the job back then. Everyone's like, yeah, he's

956
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: saved horse track racing essentially because he restored dignity. He did,

957
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: like this whole report. He had his security team because

958
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: he was he was had Giuliani and partners. They're basically,

959
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: we do security. It's like him and like Bernard character

960
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: got into security after nine eleven, right, So he's sitting

961
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: there doing that and so they're like, oh, yeah, this

962
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: is a security issue. So he has his team is

963
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: cracked team security going there the Judy rule, any seal

964
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: of approval. He was like, you need a horse track

965
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: bettings are and you need to update your technology. They're like, oh,

966
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: we're on it. Right, So then everyone else the betters

967
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: were like, well it's been fixed, so horse track betting

968
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: and racing was able to continue on. It was like

969
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: a real crisis, and then all the horses started dying.

970
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: That that's the modern crisis. Yes, that's why you do

971
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: not like horse track. Guess I understand. Well, I got

972
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: one last one for as I told you. Yes, so

973
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: this is a final irony of this one. The very

974
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: next year, someone want to pick six at the Breeders Cup. No, no,

975
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: everyone lost their minds. This cannot be happening again. And

976
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: one exactly know. It turns out that it was a

977
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: better was a businessman. He was a regular better. He

978
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: walked into a adding parlor in South Dakota where he

979
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: normally placed bets on races all across the country and

980
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: stretching to Dubai and Australia. He was a better, right,

981
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: So when his bed hit, naturally everybody knew him. He

982
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: was investigating. They're like, oh, yeah, that's just soaked him

983
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: for that amount, and he's pretty much he basically not

984
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: he broke even so he won two point six million

985
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: and broke even exactly that one. What is our ridiculous

986
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: takeaway from dis one. Well, we have a couple lessons learned.

987
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Don't steal more than you can carry, yes, good one.

988
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Don't do business with cokeheads. That's another good one, which

989
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: is just you know, pretty standard. Um and I don't know.

990
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: And then Rudy Giliani will stay for us. There you go.

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00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that one. I did very much,

992
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: so thanks for listening. You can find us online a

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