1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: I Eat, Breathe, and Sleep the New York Jets. My team. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: That is a tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. That's hard 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: to do. 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: It's a name of inches, so finding that one little 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: inch to be successful, it all matters. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 4: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 4: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. Shop Game 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 4: Day Ready, Jewelry Styles and so much more at kendrascott 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 4: dot com. 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: All right, Jimmy, so great seeing you again. A hot 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: day here in South Florida. 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, A lot going on. I mean it's been 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: a busy offseason. I know for the Jets. It's been 15 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: an extremely busy new coach, new GM, new direction in 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: a lot of ways, new quarterbacks, so a lot to 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: talk about for the Jets. 18 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: So you just set the table. 19 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: You met with the Jets first year GM, Darren Moujie. 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: What did you pick his brain about today? 21 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 22 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: I think, you know, for him, he's still settling in. 23 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: It's only been a couple of months. I do think 24 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: he'll work well with Aaron Glenn, you know, but I 25 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: think he's just settling in. I think, you know, getting 26 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: the scouting staffs for pro days. You know, I doubt 27 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: that he's and I asked him about it. He hasn't 28 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: had any opportunity to go out for any pro days 29 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: because I think we know the proda's are somewhat scripted. 30 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: You want to do a lot of personal workouts with guys. 31 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: So it sounds like he's still front office wise, getting 32 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: caught up to speed with everything, but has talked quite 33 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: a bit with Aaron Glenn about the direction this Jets 34 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: team needs to go. 35 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: What do you think about the headliners or free agency 36 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: starting with both quarterbacks, justin fields offensively Jamie Sherr with 37 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: of course Mike Linebacker not going anywhere. 38 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well one, I know Justin obviously intimately because he 39 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: was with the Bears. I work for the Bears. I 40 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: think he's tough. I think his teammates respect him. I 41 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: do question his preparation. I think he needs to prepare 42 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: much better. But you know there was improvement, you know, 43 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: from him to move from the Bears to the Pittsburgh Steelers, 44 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: how he performed last year. There's no question he's a 45 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: top tier talent. The guy does He's got great feet, 46 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: he's very athletic. He's got a big arm. I mean, 47 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: one time I saw him, he lost to the Denver Bronc. 48 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: He probably had one of the most flawless first halfs 49 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: I've ever seen of a quarterback. He was sixteen to 50 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: seventeen with one throwaway. I mean, that was one game 51 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: where you could tell he prepared, He did the preparation, 52 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: and his play really reflected it. I think it's just 53 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: now it's about getting more consistency and for him to 54 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: have a routine of how he prepares. But as for leadership, 55 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: as for toughness, as for work ethic, I think he's 56 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: all those things. And then some his teammates really respect him, 57 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: and I think that's a big part of it. And 58 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: it sounds like the Jets, and at least when I 59 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: talked to Darren, they really like that about justin fields. 60 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: What kind of offensive system do you think that the 61 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Jets should run here? With Tanner Engstrand coming over from Detroit, 62 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: he was the passing game coordinator over there, and Aaron 63 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Glen kept that talking about it today, is that, hey, listen, 64 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: don't forget about the influence of Jim Harbaugh along the 65 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: way with angs. 66 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, run and play action, and I think if you 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: look at like Jim Harbaugh JJ McCarthy, Michigan was a 68 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: lot of run and play action, you know, and I 69 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: think that's always been a balls, you know, back wheel. 70 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: I think the Bears should have done a lot more 71 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: of that with justin fields and unfortunately that you know, 72 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: that was not the case. I think they tried to 73 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: run the football the one year they led the league, 74 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: but they didn't call enough play action off of it, 75 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: because it opens up a lot of windows when he 76 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: got the players, and to me, the Jets have the pieces, 77 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: They've got specialty players. 78 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: You know. 79 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: It's funny we had a caller the other they call 80 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: moving the cheager. Oh there's nobody for him to throw 81 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: to him, Like you don't know who Garret Wilson is, 82 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? I love Malachi Corley, who they drafted. 83 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: I think that kid's a big play waiting to happen. 84 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: I love the backfield with Breest all I love what 85 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: Brayln Allen did do. That kid's a tough kid and 86 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: he's a tough load to tackle. So I think, if 87 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: you know, if you focus on running the ball and 88 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: then play action, probably last year with Aaron Rodgers, it 89 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: didn't happen enough. He's probably checking the things more than 90 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: what he should pass wise, when he should stick with 91 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: the run. And I think that needs to be an 92 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: area of focus. They really need to tap into that more. 93 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: And of course then he can play off the boot 94 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: legs things that Justin does really well with his legs, 95 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: where quarterback draws, where he can take advantage of his 96 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: skill sets and utilize, you know, in more capacity to 97 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: make plays and move the chains. 98 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: How do you balance that him taking advantage of his 99 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: athleticism where he can just extend plays and then also 100 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: just calling the game to him running at times with 101 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: the zone reads RPOs the boots. 102 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: I laughed because the Bears at that point they had 103 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: played the Giants and Brian Dable becomes a head coacher. 104 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: They didn't know about Daniel Jones and they're running the 105 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: stretch play with Saquon Barkley. They must have called sixteen 106 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: bootleg nakeds with Daniel Jones and the Bears couldn't stop it. 107 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: I mean, so it is a problem when you create 108 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: conflict of interest. You know, you're running outside zone, outside zone, 109 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: woop bootleg, outside zone ooop bootleg you know, and teams 110 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: overplay it because Saquon, as we know, probably the Giants 111 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: should never have gotten rid of him. He's a problem 112 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: to deal with. But there was the play action off 113 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: of it with Daniel Jones, who's a mobile guy. Granted 114 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: he's no longer with the Giants. We'll see how it 115 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: goes with the Colts. I think he'll win that job 116 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: over Richardson. But I think with Justin, you know, it 117 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: may not sound pretty and it sounds methodical, but those 118 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: things stress out a defense, they really do, and Justin's 119 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: really good at both of those things, and he'll get 120 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: better at his down the field play action pass. People 121 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: don't realize he does have a strong arm. I think 122 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: he's very accurate down the field, but he just needs 123 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: more polish as a passer. And I think if he 124 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: was broken in the right way, because I personally, again 125 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: I worked for the Bears, I don't think they broke 126 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: him in properly, you know, I really don't. There were 127 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: some steps that were missed in his development, but I 128 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: think he's found his footing and I think Justin understands too. 129 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: He's got to do a lot of it on his 130 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: own too. He's been kind of somewhat scarred from that, 131 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: and he took he was more assertive as a Pittsburgh 132 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 3: Steeler when I talked to Omar Kahn, their general manager. 133 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: And now obviously the Jets have had those discussions. I 134 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: know they talk around, they talk to coaches. Toughness and 135 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: work ethic isn't a problem with Justin. He's been through 136 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: some hard knocks, He's learned to couple of different offenses. 137 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: He's had some success, he's had some failures as well, 138 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 3: and now I think he understands the opportunity that's given 139 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: with him in New York. 140 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, huh, first round pick in twenty twenty one, 141 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: this is already his third team. 142 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Well, think about Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones. I mean these 143 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: coveted high picks. I mean teams are trading these guys 144 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: away for a box of peanuts at the end of 145 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: the day. And a lot of it is because they 146 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: don't know how to develop them, which is a shame 147 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: in my mind, but it is what it is. The 148 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: requirement to play these guys early, I think is always 149 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: way too soon. Some guys need more maturing, they need 150 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: more polished. I'll give you a case in point about 151 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: Justin Fields. He never called an offensive play at Ohio 152 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: State under Ryan Day. So he arrives with the Bears 153 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: and it was a problem getting in a huddle calling 154 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: to play because for the listeners out there, a lot 155 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: of these college teams are running these RPOs and they're 156 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: looking over at the OC all eleven guys turned towards 157 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: the sideline. The coach calls the play and all he 158 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: does is clap as hands. At least for c. J. Stroud, 159 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: who came after Justin, Ryan Day acknowledged that that was 160 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: a problem. So they had call out days where c. J. 161 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: Stroud had to call plays, had to spit it out 162 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: of his out of his mouth, and he had much 163 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: more success down in Houston as a rookie. It took 164 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: Justin probably his first year for the Bears, probably three 165 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: quarters of the season to finally get comfortable doing that. 166 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: And again, you're asking a young man to lead men. 167 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of grown men there and 168 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: you know here, you know, for him to. 169 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: Call play, it was it was a struggle. 170 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: He's beyond that now, he's grown so much from that 171 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: standpoint that he's beyond that and he's just much more 172 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: prepared with where he's at. 173 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Did you like it how they struck that deal with 174 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Surewood before everybody came after him, because that people were 175 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: talking about to hey, it's going to have a lot 176 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: of suitors and he's going to get decent money in 177 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the market. 178 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: Well, it says a lot about Aaron Glenn identified the talent, 179 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: identified the playmaker. You want to retain your own. I 180 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: always think that sends a good message in the locker room, 181 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: you know, resigning your guys, because it does it can 182 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: upset the apple cart when you start paying outsiders for 183 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: guys that have really proven themselves that are in the building. 184 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: And so I think Aaron credit to him. He knows 185 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: what being a jet is. He's been in that building before. 186 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: He understands it. And you know, you want to keep 187 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: good players. And I think it's a good message that's 188 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: sent to the locker room. 189 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: What is your moving the Cheens co hosts Pat Kerwin 190 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: think about Aaron Glenn going back. 191 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: He's the ar Yeah, he's obviously very excited. He's very proud. 192 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: Aaron came over and talked to us today. So they 193 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: still remain their lifelong friends and they're connected in a 194 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: lot of ways, and just excited for Aaron because I 195 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: live in Detroit. I saw his impact on the defenses 196 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: and he's had to switch gears a lot of ways. 197 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: When Hutchinson got hurt and they lacked the pass rushers, 198 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: he changed a lot of things defensively and he was 199 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: very aggressive doing it. So comes with a lot of experience, 200 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: comes with a lot of passion, you know, as a 201 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: player and a coach, I think much like Dan Campbell. 202 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Detroit Liones, he 203 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: as a vision, brought a couple of assistants, said that 204 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: know what that vision is and what they want to 205 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: do for the New York Jets, which I'm sure all 206 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: Jets fans are thirsty to turn this around. It's been 207 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: too long. It's been too long. 208 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy, you're definitely Thursday. How much would that experience in Detroit, 209 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: for what they did overall help Aaron in this build 210 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: here with the Jets. Can you maybe speak to some 211 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: similarities and maybe differences. 212 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Aaron Glenn will be 213 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: scared to think outside the box. And what I mean 214 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: by that I look at Dan Campbell his first year 215 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: as head coach of the Detroit Lions. People don't realize 216 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: he fired as oc he started calling plays and Pat 217 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: and I interviewed Dan Campbell. He had never called plays before. 218 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: He said that he was outside of his comfort zone, 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: but he said, hey, I'm the guy in charge. It's 220 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: not looking the way I like. I'm going to go 221 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: outside the box and this is what I think needs 222 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: to be done. And I think Aaron Glenn will be 223 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: fearless that way too, because Detroit went against the grain 224 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. And I think in how 225 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: Dan trusted Aaron about the lack of pass rush they've 226 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: had some injuries in the secondary and said, hey, Aaron, 227 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: you figured it out. And Aaron figured it out, and 228 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: you know, so, I think he's going to be kind 229 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: of fearless in that way that you know, the Jets 230 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: that we've been kind of sputtering along for a while. 231 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: And I think he'll go in a lot of different 232 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: directions that nobody expects because he won't fear making a 233 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: wrong decision or being criticized for maybe a decision that 234 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 3: may work or may bake backfire because things need to 235 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: be done differently. 236 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: He's authentic, he's so true to himself and he's got 237 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: conviction in those. 238 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean these won't 239 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: be like careless decisions, you know, in my mind, I 240 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: mean they're well thought out, you know, with what he 241 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: wants to do in his vision. But they're not careless. 242 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: But I think he'll think outside the box. I do. 243 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: Do you like it? 244 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: In a general sense where they're going with the roster. 245 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: There's only five players north of thirty right now, and 246 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: three of those guys are specialists. One of those guys 247 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: is your backup quarterback in Tyrod Teller, and another guy 248 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: is just somebody you brought into got system. Familiarity with 249 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: these guys know Josh Reynolds quite well. 250 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: I think when you're rebuilding the team, you do you 251 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 3: start young. I would expect they will draft players. I 252 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if undrafted free agents make the roster 253 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: as well, and you play them. You play them because 254 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: that's how they learned. Look at green Bay. Green Bay 255 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: was one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, and 256 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: they throw those kids out there and they play, and 257 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: they're getting better and they've gone to the playoffs the 258 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: past couple of years. Granted they didn't go as far 259 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: as what they wanted. I look at teams like the Rams. 260 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: They had probably had five defensive players that were rookies 261 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: that were impact players, and they were terrible early defensively. 262 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they got shellacked by the Cardinals Indivision opponent. 263 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: I think they beat them by like five touchdowns. It 264 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: was something ridiculous. But they kept on playing Jared Verse, 265 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: who they drafted first round. They kept on playing Braden Fists, 266 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: they played Kitchens and safety, and they said, hey, it's 267 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: going to fruits of their labor is going to show 268 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: up later in the year. And then all of a sudden, 269 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: even in the playoffs, those guys were competing against teams 270 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: like Philadelphia, and they're young, and they're a young team, 271 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: and I think you got to draft them, you got 272 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: to develop them, you got to play them, because that's 273 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: how they're going to learn the fastest. 274 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: You know the draft quite well, what's your take on 275 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: number seven, where the Jets are at. 276 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: I think that, hey, well, there's gonna be good players there, 277 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: you know, because the lack of quarterbacks. You know, everybody 278 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: assumes it will be the two quarterbacks taken early. Sanders, 279 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm not as high in Sanders as I am cam Ward, 280 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: but because I mean, look at last year's draft, all 281 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: those quarterbacks that got drafted. Those are quality players getting 282 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: passed up. And I think we know not all those 283 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: quarterbacks you know, are gonna be wearing gold jackets, you 284 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean? And typically your first round is 285 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: about fourteen to seventeen guys that are true first round players. 286 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: So I think at seven there's going to be a true, 287 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: truly good player, whether it's a I know a lot 288 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: of people talking about the tight end from Penn State, 289 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: Tyler Warren's of one year wonder but he's fun to watch, 290 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, He's kind of like Jeremy Shaky the way 291 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: he's just he's out there shock at all, just doing 292 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: great things with the ball. 293 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: And can helping to run in that pass game, right. 294 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, little wildcat they ran with him, and he's just 295 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: a bruiser. He's out there. He's a football player, kind 296 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: of like a mini Gronkowski, just banging guys around. But 297 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: there's a lot of good players that are there. A 298 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: d line is very good this year. The running backs 299 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: are that's a stellar class. Not that the Jets need 300 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: running backs, but you know, to me, d line. The 301 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: early offensive linemen are good, and obviously Jets fans saw 302 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: Beckton shipped off to Philadelphia and here he is starting 303 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: as a guard. You know, never hurts the draft of 304 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: the old line and in the trenches. 305 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: Well, what do you make speaking of that? The tackles 306 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft, people are talking about 307 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Will Campbell. 308 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm fine with moving Olu Fashanu to the left tackle 309 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: and then drafting a guy like Membo. Yeah, right out 310 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: of Missouri. Yeah, he's a big offensive right tackle. And 311 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: Fashanu to me is a left guard anyway, or left 312 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: tackle anyway. Right, That's what he was at Penn State, 313 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: and that's what he's going to be ultimately in the NFL. 314 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: So flop him over, put him at left tackle, and 315 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: draft a guy like Membu, and sure enough, your tackle 316 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: spots are a lot better. 317 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where Alu finished the year last year, So 318 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: he'll be protecting Justin Field's blindside defensive tackle. How good 319 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: is this group because everybody's been talking about it, even 320 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: about it for months, And with that being said, the 321 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Jets added a few guys in free agency, including Derek Noddy. 322 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: But how much does it come into the equation or 323 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: factor into the equation, I should say that, hey, this 324 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: is a good defensive tackle group if there is. 325 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: A gram there. If there is, you know, well even 326 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Walter Nolan, right, I like Walter. That is a slim, 327 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: three hundred and five pounder. Yeah, you know, he played 328 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: really well down in Mobile, Alabama. But to me, this 329 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: draft defensive rushers, there's a lot of good edge rushers. 330 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: There's a lot of good defensive tackles in this draft. 331 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: You want to upgrade, there's guys that are there that 332 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: are available, and I look at for say, the Lions, 333 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: one of their first guys under Dan Campbell is that 334 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: Alee McNeil. He was hurt last year, but this past 335 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: year he came back from injury and that is a strong, powerful, 336 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: impactful defensive tackle. And I think you can never go 337 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: wrong in the trenches. If you don't believe me, go 338 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: look at the Philadelphia Eagles. They drafted Jalen Carter. He 339 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: didn't follow out the top ten, and that Travis Davis 340 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: is starting to play. That's what frees up those guys 341 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: on the outside for them to get the sacks that 342 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: they had. So two d tackles that make it happen. 343 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: We're only a few weeks away. Now, where is the 344 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: draft deepest? On Days two to three? 345 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: Running back? Like I said, tight end, all the guys 346 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: in Mobile, from Mason Taylor at LSU. I mean there's 347 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: a lot of good tight ends, Loveless Loveland from Michigan 348 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: good tight end. There's probably about ten to third I'd 349 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: probably say fourteen tight ends that will be drafted. All 350 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: the guys in Mobile running back wise will get drafted again. 351 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: Jets don't need running back in my opinion, but it's 352 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: deep at running back, deep at tight end, deep at 353 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: edge rush, deep at the D line. 354 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Do you take a developmental passer? Uh? 355 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got no problet. I think you're still gonna 356 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: get good pass rushers, you know, even in the third round. Yeah, 357 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: I mean there's probably five guys that get drafted in 358 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: the first round. From Mike Green. Obviously Carter's gonna go 359 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: quick from Penn State, but guys like Mike Green. There's 360 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: good edge rushers in this draft. Spring, don't. James Pearce 361 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: ran a hell of a forty time at for four 362 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: four seven. He'll be an outside backer in a three four, 363 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: But three four four three there are really good ed 364 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: rushers in this draft. 365 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Great catching up. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the draft 366 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: because you know we'll finally get some answers to the test. 367 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, it'll be fun. Green Bay Get Ready. 368 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 369 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. Shop Game 370 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: Day Ready, Jewelry Styles and so much more at Kendra 371 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: Scott dot com. 372 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: What do you making the international expansion? Jets fans know 373 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: this very well. The Jets played a road game at 374 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Tottenham last year against the Minnesota Vikings. They're going to 375 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: go back to Tottenham this year. But the National Football 376 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: League just continues to expand its reach all over. 377 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 5: The globe and it's becoming more of a global sport. 378 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 5: Right more folks around the world are playing American football 379 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: than ever before. There's a reason that the NFL has 380 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 5: invested so much in flag football. Now you're going to 381 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: get flag football in the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. 382 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 5: And I mentioned that because in twenty thirty two you 383 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 5: have the Olympics in Australia. That is a continent, a 384 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: country that the league has spent an incredible. 385 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: Amount of resources on. 386 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 5: I know we all kind of focus on the UK, 387 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: and rightly so, but Australia is probably number two in 388 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 5: terms of other markets, and so that is by design, 389 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: right You have a Jordan Mylotta that's coming out of there. 390 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 5: You have rugby, it is westernized to a point, there's money, 391 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 5: there's space to play football out there, and then they 392 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 5: have the Olympics in twenty thirty two, so you want 393 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 5: to get some good momentum built up for twenty eight 394 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 5: We're gonna ultimately see NFL players playing flag football in 395 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: the Olympics, whether former or current. That I think that's 396 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: gonna happen. And then hopefully you keep that momentum building 397 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: for twenty thirty two, and by the time a Roger 398 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 5: Goodell retires or by the time some of these owners 399 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: pass the team down to their errors, we have what 400 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 5: is becoming the fastest growing or the largest sport, probably 401 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 5: short of soccer still at that point. Yeah, of course, 402 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 5: in the world. That's the hope. 403 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Do you think we're gonna get to a point here 404 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: sometime soon where every team is gonna play at least 405 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: one international game per year? 406 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: I know that is the hope, and so the most 407 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 5: expedient way to that is adding an eighteenth game, which 408 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 5: would add a second by week. So now you can 409 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 5: do a whole lot more with the schedule. Right, you 410 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: add that eighteenth game. Well, now let's just call that 411 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: eighteenth game an international game. You still have the thirty 412 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 5: two teams, and so they're sixteen games wherever they're going 413 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 5: to be played. If you're playing in an Abu Dhabi, 414 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 5: if you're playing in an Australia, you probably have to 415 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: get that bye week after. 416 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: If you are playing in London. A lot of. 417 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: Teams now have they go right through that, right, and 418 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 5: so you don't have to do that anymore, right, And 419 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 5: so the league has done a crawl, walk, jog, run, 420 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 5: and that's how they like to go about things. 421 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 422 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 5: And so when it comes to international expansion, I think 423 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 5: that we. 424 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Are in the walk to jogging phase. 425 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Probably got you, and then maybe way down the line 426 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: a little sprint. Okay, there you go. So let's conclude 427 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: here with the little Jets talk. Let's do it your 428 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: thoughts justin fields in his fit here and the Jets, 429 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, winning in free agency, because we've heard from 430 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: multiple people the Steelers wanted him back. 431 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, they did. Uh, there's no question about them. And 432 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 5: if he could have probably could have gone a number 433 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: of places. He played really well when he was out there. 434 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 5: A lot of coaches would not have bench justin fields, 435 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: and Mike Tomlin did and it paid off to a point, right, 436 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 5: and that you know, we can leave that there. But 437 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: I think what the group with the Jets are going 438 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 5: to have to do is know what he does well 439 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 5: and emphasize that, know what he doesn't do so well, 440 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: and try to minimize that. But the other thing is, man, 441 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 5: you're gonna want him to run so much because he's 442 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: he's bigger than a lot of. 443 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: People think and twenty seven pounds, he's a truck. 444 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean, and just really just solid. 445 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and he's been doing this since Ohio 446 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: State and he goes through you know, you remember, I 447 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: think it was the Clemson. 448 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: Game and it's like, man, is he's getting rocked out there? 449 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: But I want that guy on my team, And yes 450 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 5: you do, but you also wanted to be healthy and 451 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: so you didn't see that so much with the Steelers. 452 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 5: I thought that they harnessed that a little bit last year. 453 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 5: And so if that can continue and he continues to 454 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 5: mature as a thrower, which is still possible for him, 455 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: I very much believe, even though he's in what year 456 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: six in the NFL, year five or six now, time flies, right, Yeah, 457 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 5: just a couple of years ago. 458 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean he's drafted in the first round twenty twenty one. 459 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so he can still He's not an old 460 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 5: dog who can't be taught new tricks. 461 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: Right. 462 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 5: I think we saw that maturation last year and it 463 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 5: very well can continue. 464 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: Now. 465 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: Interesting spot do you think here with Aaron Glenn in 466 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: his first year, GM Darren Mougy in his first year. 467 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: I've talked to multiple people here on the ground who 468 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: are not affiliated with the Jets, and they say, hey, listen, 469 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: the cupboard isn't bare. If you look at the defensive 470 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: side of the ball. You got Quinn Williams, you got 471 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Will McDonald's that popped on the scene last year, Jermaine 472 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: Johnson coming back from the Achilles. You re signed Sherwood 473 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback on defense, he got Quincy Williams. You got 474 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner leading that secondary. Michael Carter hopefully he's gonna 475 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: be healthy for seventeen games this year. I know he's 476 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: got a chip on his shoulder. You can go on 477 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. You look at that backfield. 478 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: You got some young backs, you got Brice Hall, and 479 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: then you got a big time alpha receiver and Garrett Wilson. 480 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: Right, let's hope that the offensive line can stay healthy. 481 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: Right. 482 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 5: You know, I think that it speaks well the previous 483 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: regime that so many of these guys were retained. That 484 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 5: when Aaron Glenn says that we like to move in 485 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 5: silence and in free agency. Look, there's a lot of 486 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 5: ways you can skin a cat. You can go out 487 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 5: there and spend a bunch of money and get into 488 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 5: the playoffs. You can do a whole lot of nothing 489 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 5: get into the playoffs. You can resign your own like 490 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 5: what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have done the last couple 491 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: of years. I would argue they have been winning free 492 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: agency the last couple of years, Like you're keeping a 493 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 5: playoff team together doing so really well. 494 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Jets ultimately want to do. 495 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: That's ultimate what they want to do. 496 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 5: And so I think that they're saying, hey, there's some 497 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 5: good bones here and we're not just going to go 498 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: out there and throw around money just because this is 499 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: our first time in these in these chairs, or just 500 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 5: because okay, we're the Jets and you know there hasn't 501 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 5: been that success on the field, so we're going to 502 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 5: show you in March, and so now it's it's obviously 503 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: about going out there and doing it. 504 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: I also like the one year deals. 505 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: Yeah right, you are hedging your bets and you're not 506 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: sitting there saying I know football better than everybody else, 507 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 5: because if you did, you'd sign them to two or 508 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: three year deals. You'd say I know about this. You're saying, 509 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: these are one year deals, and they are guys who 510 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: have been in systems similar to ours, guys that we 511 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 5: have known from previous stops, etc. And so let's just 512 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 5: see how it works out. And I wouldn't at all 513 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 5: be surprised if while it is working out during the season, 514 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 5: if the culture that Darren, Muji and AG are trying 515 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 5: to build is what ultimately gets built, I would not 516 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: at all be surprised to see some ind season extensions. 517 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if we just talked about that, if 518 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: that's not his style or whatever, but you sign all 519 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: these one year contracts, show us and we'll show you, 520 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 5: and then we'll take care. 521 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: Of you number seven? Overall? What do you think the spot? 522 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 5: I'm you know, if you're the Jets, you hope that 523 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: as many quarterbacks as possible go before you. Right as 524 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 5: it stands, right now, it seems that only two can right. 525 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 5: Camboard's going one. Shador Sanders could go two, could go three. 526 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 5: The Giants might try to get cute and trade back 527 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 5: a little bit and then maybe try to take him. 528 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: We'll see. 529 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 5: But if you are the Jets, you want too out 530 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 5: of the six in front of you to be quarterbacks, 531 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: and then Abduel Carter will be off the board, Travis 532 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 5: Hunter will be off the board. And so that's where 533 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 5: you're talking about, like like, this is not the world's 534 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: greatest draft, and a lot of folks know and understand that. 535 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: But as much as Team A may say, gosh, this. 536 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: Is a great year to trade back, well, so our 537 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 5: team's abc D, Like there's only so much you can 538 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 5: trade back, right, So to be at seven, you were 539 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 5: still in a nice I'm not gonna call it a 540 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: catbird seat, but you're in a nice spot. You have 541 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 5: gone out, Like we just talked about one year deals, 542 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 5: so you haven't identified necessarily you're open, right, and so 543 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 5: I hate the term best player available. I hate it 544 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: because it's never actually best player available. You always go 545 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: back and say you had that need. All these drafters 546 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: said that you had this need, and like you know, 547 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 5: seventy percent of people thought that that person was going 548 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: there was it best player available. So but you are 549 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: in a position where you actually can't do that because 550 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 5: you have not watched yourself in anything that's too damaging. 551 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: But need could actually mirror with value this time around, 552 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: or merry with value, I should say, because a lot 553 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: of people are talking maybe Penn State's Tyler warn you 554 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: definitely could have added another body in the tight end 555 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: room and right tackle. Perhaps you know a lot of 556 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: people are fans of Mambou out of Missouri, or maybe 557 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: a Will Campbell out of LSU. And then the defensive tackle. 558 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: The Jets added a number of pieces who are going 559 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: to play alongside next to Quinn Williams. But you might 560 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: want to go defensive tackle. Then here, I want to 561 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: double up or a receiver. I know people are talking 562 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: about receiver as well. 563 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: It's all possible, and there are guys there. You don't 564 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: want to fall too back, you want to trade down. 565 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 5: You don't want to go back to fifteen or anything 566 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 5: like that because some of those dudes. There's not necessarily 567 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: dudes at that point, but at seven. 568 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: You're going to get a guy. 569 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Great scene. 570 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks so much,