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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, getting Younger by the episode.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL, Part two

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Speaker 1: of our Super wild Card Weekend recap series one of two,

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Speaker 1: and yes it is set. The best weekend in football

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Speaker 1: Divisional round playoffs is set.

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Speaker 2: Let's go through it.

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Speaker 1: Saturday one thirty pm Texans at Ravens, Saturday five point

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Speaker 1: fifteen pm Packers at Niners, Sunday noon Bucks Lions, and

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Speaker 1: Sunday three point thirty Chiefs Bills. Give me it, Give

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Speaker 1: me everything you got. That is a great slate of

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Speaker 1: divisional round football. And to get to those matchups we

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Speaker 1: had to get through and we thought we had gotten

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Speaker 1: all the floating trash bags out. Well, we had to

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Speaker 1: use this long weekend, this holiday weekend and Happy Martin

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Speaker 1: Luther King Junior Day to everyone to sort out the

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Speaker 1: teams that don't matter and the teams that do. And

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into all that with the last

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Speaker 1: two games that were played on Monday. Dan hanss here

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Speaker 1: with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler, and yes, boys, we

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Speaker 1: did not get any classics on Monday. In fact, it

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Speaker 1: was two pretty much one sided affairs, one more than

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Speaker 1: the other. But we did do the business that we

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Speaker 1: needed to do to set up what I think is

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Speaker 1: going to be a brilliant week of football next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you going Pacific time with all the

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Speaker 3: times for next week. That was an cost best coast, Like,

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Speaker 3: let's normalize that. And yeah, the average margin of victory

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Speaker 3: this week for these six games was seventeen and a

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Speaker 3: half points. The two games on Monday, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: weren't like overly competitive, although they were both within one

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Speaker 3: score at different points in the second half and never

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Speaker 3: felt close. But I guess that's why the NFL still wins,

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Speaker 3: or maybe I'm just an addict, is that even though

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Speaker 3: these games, like they really weren't great, just the stories

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Speaker 3: that kind of come with them, especially tonight watching the

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Speaker 3: Eagles go down like that, to me, are just so

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Speaker 3: fascinating in terms of the drama and everything that's gonna

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Speaker 3: come next and everything that came before it to get

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Speaker 3: to this point that it's still like you can't you

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Speaker 3: can't stop watching it, even as it's a car crash.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think if you're gonna it can go

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Speaker 4: two ways. And we're so used to so many of

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Speaker 4: these playoff games going down to the final possession into overtime.

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Speaker 4: This was a different weekend. If we're still in the weekend,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure it's still the weekend. It's Monday. It's

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Speaker 4: a holiday Monday, but we didn't have school, so at least. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're right, so I guess it is. It's a long weekend.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, like when the Cowboys get dismantled utterly,

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Speaker 4: and when the Eagles get their doors blown off, and

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Speaker 4: when even Mike Tomlin is walking off the podium as

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Speaker 4: he's being asked about his future, It's like we are

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Speaker 4: getting storylines that are pretty impactful with some of the

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Speaker 4: most deeply embedded franchises in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: So I'll take it. I mean, I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: Geez, those shots of Jeffrey Laurie in the Eagles owner suite,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't tell me. You're looking at the

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Speaker 1: way that those shots of Laurie's stonefaced and almost catatonic,

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Speaker 1: and you're wondering what does it mean for Nick Sirianni,

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Speaker 1: and of course, what does it mean for Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and what does it mean for Mike Tomman. You're right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: there's so many storylines on wrap ahead, But let's get

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Speaker 1: to the games that were played today, including that Eagles game.

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Speaker 1: But let's start. Let's go in order in which they

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Speaker 1: were played. The Bills and Steelers were originally scheduled for Sunday,

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Speaker 1: but a blizzard socked western New York. By today, they

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Speaker 1: so it was all cool for us and for Bills fans.

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Speaker 2: Man, you're alive, You're alive, and well. The Orchard Park.

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Speaker 5: Five on the play clock here on second and nine,

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Speaker 5: complete on a crossing route to Shakir, who gets away

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Speaker 1: If you want your child to go up to be

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Speaker 2: But it was one of those things.

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Speaker 1: It was the Swingers game that we talked about earlier

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Speaker 1: They were just toying with the bunny, and when it

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are that bunny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were down what twenty one to nothing in

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Speaker 3: the first half, and there's a blocked field goal that

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Speaker 3: And I think that drive at twenty four to seventeen,

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Speaker 3: all about what this Bill's team can do this year,

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Speaker 3: which is they only threw the ball twice on that drive.

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Speaker 3: This is not a roller coaster game. This was just

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Speaker 4: And I thought, jos Josh Allen, like, you know, the

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Speaker 4: He's the perfect guy to do that. He dominated it

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Speaker 4: in cold weather. Three touchdowns, no turnovers, Like they clean

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I watched that thing.

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Speaker 4: It felt like a low drama element to me, like

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Speaker 4: it was just a matter of time until Buffalo did

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Speaker 2: I mean, the idea of the seventh seed being added.

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Speaker 1: you're gonna take a bad Steelers team within the prism

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Speaker 2: I think they were what was.

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Speaker 1: It, were they tenth or twelfth in the playoff race

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen after the game talked about this topsy turvy

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Speaker 7: like I said, the dividends that it's going to pay off,

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 1: I think I know what he's saying there too, Greg

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Speaker 1: that those games and you remember late in December around

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Speaker 1: week after week after week, and there's that must have

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Speaker 2: You win or you go home. And I love I

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Speaker 1: Bills chances against a vulnerable Chiefs team because of the

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Speaker 3: Well, and that they have Josh Allen and obviously the

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Speaker 2: That was a big concern, Like you wouldn't have known.

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Speaker 3: Gab Davis didn't play in this game, and hopefully he's

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Speaker 3: Shakir makes a great player two every week, like he

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Speaker 3: He's a pro bowler. They're run blocking well. That catch

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Speaker 3: We will be spending probably more of late February, but

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna be like, because they're like wide open,

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Speaker 3: Watching the Pittsburgh Steelers of the twenty twenty three season

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Speaker 1: Mark who went twenty two for thirty six for three

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Speaker 4: low moments, and he's inconsistent. But the version of him

435
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Speaker 4: tonight three hundred and thirty seven yards, three touchdowns, pretty

436
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: much mistake free. This is the team a couple times

437
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Speaker 4: this season that we saw and I think if you're

438
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 4: gonna get this version of them, they're dangerous. I think

439
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: it also helps, let's be real, they came up against

440
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 4: a team that was crumbling at the seams, falling apart,

441
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Speaker 4: and like I mean, two teams from Pennsylvania decided not

442
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 4: to tackle today. But I think this was the most

443
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Speaker 4: more avert of the two.

444
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Speaker 2: The Steel over it.

445
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Speaker 4: I'm with you, and like you know, it was interesting

446
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 4: because like on the like on the Manning cast ray

447
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: lewis not my favorite person on the planet, but he

448
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 4: was going nuts about like the tackling angles. It's like

449
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 4: you're just watching a team from the pure fundamentals fall apart,

450
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: like when James Bradbury and Kevin Bayerd completely fell apart

451
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Speaker 4: on that Trey Palmer fifty six yard touchdown.

452
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Speaker 2: It's like, that's part of the story here.

453
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Speaker 4: It's like the Bucks played a pretty flawless game and

454
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Speaker 4: their defense. You know, the Eagles the first time they played,

455
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Speaker 4: way back early in the season ran for two hundred

456
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Speaker 4: and one yards on this Bucks defense, which is a

457
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: pretty good run defense. Tonight two point eight yards per carry,

458
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: forty two yards. They couldn't get out of their own way,

459
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Speaker 4: And so a lot of it for me had to

460
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 4: do with the Bucks obviously hitting the Eagles at the

461
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Speaker 4: perfect time, but then handling their own job as well.

462
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Speaker 2: Right, I think to start with the Bucks.

463
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: So the Eagles, look, they're the bigger story, and that's fine,

464
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Speaker 3: I mean, Buck, the Bucks understand that. But but to

465
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Speaker 3: celebrate the Bucks because a win in the playoffs is

466
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Speaker 3: a big deal and any time you can get it,

467
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 3: I mean, even Bills fans should be thrilled. I was

468
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: counting the numbers, guse I was like, I wonder if

469
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: who's won more playoff games, Bucks or Bills since twenty

470
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Speaker 3: twenty When the Bills started this run and.

471
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Speaker 6: It's the Bucks. The Bucks are at six, the Bills

472
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Speaker 6: are at five.

473
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Speaker 3: It's amazing that the Bucks have now beaten the Eagles

474
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Speaker 3: twice in the playoffs. They did it a couple of

475
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Speaker 3: years ago and they won four that time, they won

476
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and they did it tonight with so

477
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Speaker 3: many of the players that were coached by Bruce arians

478
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Speaker 3: who you know, I don't think his advisor role.

479
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 6: Does he still have their role? Maybe he doesn't.

480
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 3: It is too active because he's on the manning cast

481
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Speaker 3: during the game.

482
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Speaker 6: Maybe he's not still getting the paycheck. I don't know

483
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Speaker 6: how that works.

484
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Speaker 3: That is that's the place you want to get in life.

485
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: Let's face it. It's awesome. But they mentioned seventeen guys,

486
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Speaker 3: which they were pointing out, It's like, oh, that's not

487
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Speaker 3: that many.

488
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Speaker 6: I was like, that's a lot.

489
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Speaker 3: Seventeen guys are still there from a Super Bowl title

490
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Speaker 3: four years ago, and I think it's six or seven

491
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Speaker 3: of the defensive starters. And you saw like Levante David

492
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Speaker 3: with a huge tackle for loss the third quarter because

493
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: this was a game, it was a one score game

494
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 3: in the third quarter that ends up setting up the

495
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: safety and he was all over the place, and Vitaveyo

496
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: was the guy who's stuffed the tush push and Jamel

497
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: Dean is out there on single coverage like all these

498
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: Bulls guys that have been there, and it was.

499
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: A great plan. It was the perfect plan.

500
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Speaker 3: It was a perfect opponent for Bulls, who's just like

501
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: mister Blitz, and he got to face the team that

502
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: had no answers for Blitz. Next Gen Stats had the

503
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: number that they had ten unblocked defenders tonight, that is

504
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 3: the most in any game of the Next Gen Stats era.

505
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: Hurtz faced quick pressure, which is defined as less than

506
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: two and a half seconds, on thirteen plays tonight. That's

507
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: the most by any team all season. And it just

508
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: felt like coaching malpractice. So it was a great coaching

509
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: job on one hand, Bulls just completely flummoxing this team

510
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: and a bad a terrible one on the other hand.

511
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Speaker 3: And Peyton Manning, he's he does not like criticizing, but

512
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Speaker 3: he was just sitting there watching like, I can't believe

513
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: they're just staying empty with no extra pass protector in there.

514
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Speaker 2: He's like, that is just being stubborn. They're just being stubborn.

515
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 6: They're just doing the same thing, and it's.

516
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Speaker 2: Something we watched for like two months.

517
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Speaker 3: It's kind of it's kind of crazy that, more than anything,

518
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: is why I think Sirianni's gonna get fired. And I

519
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: think Bowls in this Bucks teams was weirdly like the

520
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 3: worst matchup for him this or like the Vikings team

521
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Speaker 3: would have been time. I mean, let's face it, like anyone,

522
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Speaker 3: well that's anyone that matchup for your right Eagles everyone team.

523
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Speaker 1: I think it's it's pretty unprecedented. Our buddy Kevin Clark,

524
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Speaker 1: who works with the Peyton Manning brand over there now

525
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: Omaha Productions, he he made a comment on Twitter that

526
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Speaker 1: I was thinking, like the same time as I read,

527
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Speaker 1: I was like, can you remember a team melting down

528
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Speaker 1: like this without without a major quarterback injury or some

529
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Speaker 1: type of injury that completely destroyed the structure of what

530
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Speaker 1: the team was. And you know they weren't perfectly healthy,

531
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Speaker 1: and not having AJ Brown was certainly an issue for them,

532
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Speaker 1: but I just could have imagined I imagine AJ Brown

533
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Speaker 1: moping his ass around the field in this game as

534
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: well making a few plays. I think they were losing

535
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: with or without AJ Brown in this game because there's

536
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: something fundamentally broken with this Eagles team, and it is

537
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: It is crazy to think that if the Chiefs don't

538
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Speaker 1: get the benefit of a ticky Tack holding call at

539
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the end of the Super Bowl, we could be talking

540
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Speaker 1: about the Eagles being a champion last year. And I

541
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Speaker 1: don't think anybody's going to be surprised to Sirianni goes,

542
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: because what I saw, and what I think a lot

543
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: of people saw, was a team that had more or

544
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: less packed it in and do not believe in the

545
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: head coach and the coaching staff, and everyone's doing these

546
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: three sixty windmill dunks on Matt Patricia. Listen, Matt Patricia

547
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: was just a guy in the deep background on the staff.

548
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: Sean Decide was the defensive coordinator that got promoted when

549
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: Gannon left and then.

550
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Speaker 2: The hired from outside the building.

551
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Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, Sirianni makes the decision weird timing to dump

552
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: decidh humiliate the guy in a lot of ways, kick

553
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: him upstairs, and put Patricia in the spot. But it's

554
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: not Patricia that's Maybe the scheme's not great, I'm not

555
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: saying it is, but it's not Patricia that's embarrassing themselves.

556
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: On the field with those mistackles and poor angles and

557
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: just low effort performance. I mean, the Eagles got to

558
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: wear this, and you can't just blame it on a coach.

559
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: I would say, like to Kevin Clark's tweak because I

560
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: saw that too that I was thinking kind of jogging

561
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: my memory. There are certainly teams that kind of went

562
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: like eight to one and then were revealed to be frauds,

563
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: But there aren't teams like this that looked like they

564
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: had turned the corner into the world of maybe being

565
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: like an NFC East dynasty with a quarterback you could

566
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Speaker 4: believe in for the next ten years that went through

567
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Speaker 4: a personality switch like this over the course of a

568
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: month and a half, because it was like an Eagles

569
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: team that, you know, two months ago we were saying

570
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 4: the front office is forward thinking, the roster is stacked,

571
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 4: like the way they're built is the way you win

572
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: in the NFC. And then like six weeks later, they

573
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: seem to lack all confidence. The coaches are flum mixed.

574
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: They clearly have missed both their coordinators. The players feel

575
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: like there's on the edge of a total insurrection, and

576
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 4: the coach could be gone in two days.

577
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: Here is Nick Sirianni at the podium. We were kind

578
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: of waiting on this and they just had the camera

579
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Speaker 1: on the empty podium. When Syriani gonna show up, What's

580
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: gonna happen is Jeff Lorii taking him outside, putting him

581
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Speaker 1: in a basement somewhere and locking it up. You don't

582
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the once proud Sirianni. Here

583
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: are his comments after the game.

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Speaker 8: Oh, obviously we were in a in a big slide.

585
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Speaker 8: And you know, anytime, anytime that's the case, I always

586
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 8: look at myself first, and I didn't do a good

587
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 8: enough job. And obviously we lost five of the last

588
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 8: six and lost today, And it's almost like you couldn't

589
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Speaker 8: get out of the rut. We we couldn't get out

590
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 8: the rut we're in. And that's and that's all of us.

591
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is it is all of us,

592
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: But it is the head coach.

593
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: The buck stops there.

594
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Speaker 1: And I thought Jalen Hurts his body language and the

595
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Speaker 1: way he comported himself these last few weeks of really

596
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: hold a story too, of a team that didn't have

597
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: the proper leadership to help get.

598
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Out of the run either. Right.

599
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Speaker 3: I think when Manning was talking about like the lack

600
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Speaker 3: of protection there, and Jay Gruden gotten some heat for

601
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: popping off about it on Twitter too, just because like

602
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: if I ever let my quarterback like get brutalized like this,

603
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: I hope people would come at me. And then RG

604
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: three actually did come at him. He was one of

605
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: his It was delicious, which is hilarious. But that's maybe

606
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: a quarterback losing confidence in his coaching or what's around him.

607
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: And a J.

608
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Speaker 3: Brown this week, you know, deleted all the Eagles this.

609
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: I did not know this during the week. I found

610
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: this out tonight, but he did the whole like delete

611
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: all the Eagle stuff, and he also did triple entire

612
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Speaker 3: Twitter account. And it's tough. And I think it really

613
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: was crystallized for me tonight because I've been on the

614
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: side of like, yeah, well, but the offense hasn't really

615
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: been the problem. It's been the league's worst defense been

616
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Speaker 3: this and that. You know, the offense by the numbers,

617
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: and like they've been good, they haven't been great, and

618
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: Hurts has been good. He hasn't been terrible until these

619
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Speaker 3: last three weeks, although it really turned into a snowball downhill.

620
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Speaker 3: But then the start of the third quarter because this

621
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Speaker 3: game will be remembered as totally one sided, and it

622
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Speaker 3: really was. But the Bucks offense had been settling for

623
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Speaker 3: field goals. They didn't get any points right before the half.

624
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Speaker 3: And then in the third quarter, actually the Eagles defense

625
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: for a minute settled down. They forced Baker into some

626
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: bad sacks. They actually punted I think three straight times

627
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: if I'm correct, and the Eagles offense had a chance

628
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Speaker 3: to get back in this game. They're only down one score,

629
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Speaker 3: and in those three drives after halftime against a Bucks

630
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: defense it was highly mediocre all year.

631
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Speaker 6: They had a total of zero yards.

632
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Speaker 3: They punted twice, and then they had that sequence where

633
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: they ended up going backwards like fifteen yards or whatever

634
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: it was and hurts his holding onto the ball forever,

635
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: and again they don't have answers for the blitz and

636
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: he takes a safety that.

637
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Speaker 2: Ends the game.

638
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: And that that to me was like, oh yeah, I

639
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: guess it really did turn into a full scale meltdown

640
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: where nothing is right about this team. Absolutely nothing is

641
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: good about this team. Not even the offensive line is

642
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: like good about this team. And you're right, I can't

643
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: think of anything like this in our run the Patriots

644
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: in nineteen were fairly similar. They were ten and one

645
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: and they but they just got old. It wasn't it

646
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: was just like they weren't as good as the record.

647
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: They just got old. It wasn't like this.

648
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna kill Sirianni for this. Although the

649
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Flashpoint Focus series is I mean, I had the Emmy

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Speaker 1: Awards tonight.

651
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Speaker 2: My wife's at them right now.

652
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Actually they're proud of them.

653
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: How do we not get an award for the series?

654
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: At this point?

655
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: We get the Eagles just never won again after they

656
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: were the Flashpoint Focus and we broached the idea, could

657
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Sirianni potentially lose his job? And now here we are,

658
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of stunning and we're gonna see what

659
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: happens there.

660
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: But to pivot back to the.

661
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: Meca, by the way, was watching this game with me

662
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: because you know, we're hoping to move up in the

663
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: world and whatnot. And she knows I'm just an associate

664
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Speaker 3: producer to the assistant to the to the producer, yes,

665
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: and she was seeing what was happening with this Eagles

666
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: team and she was just like, ooo, baby, maybe we

667
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: can get that new washer and dryer. Maybe we're gonna

668
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: get a bonus at the end of the season. I

669
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: told calm down, we'll see, we'll see.

670
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: I credit wife is one of the great one of

671
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: the great weapons for any man.

672
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Speaker 2: Greg.

673
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Speaker 4: She's literally never listened to an episode of our show though,

674
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: so it's it's kind of hard for us to feel

675
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: that she has an incredible sway over your position inside

676
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: the you know the vehicle.

677
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.

678
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: Tough, by the way, tough weekend for the NFC East,

679
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: my own So Tom Brady, just to underline what an

680
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: amazing year this has been for the Bucks, given where

681
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the expectations were. They had Tom Brady for one last ride.

682
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Last year, they go eight and nine and get white

683
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: by Dak and the Cowboys in the first round. Now

684
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: they're ten and eight and they are going to the

685
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs to face the Lions, who

686
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: are a very good team, a very fun team, a

687
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: team that is very easy to root for, but they

688
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler are not quite a juggernaut either.

689
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: And again, like Baker in this spot is going to

690
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: be dangerous. When I woke up this morning, I think.

691
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: He is going to absolutely play well in that spot

692
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: and will will the Bulls Asance take hold and be

693
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: able to minimize what Detroit does. We have a week

694
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: to get into that game. But I really think that

695
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: is a competitive game. I don't think this is the

696
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: Bucks had their moment tonight and get the doors blown off.

697
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I think they're going to surprise people again with another

698
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: good performance.

699
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: They're not done yet. Yeah, I think we I mean

700
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: we laid it out.

701
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 4: There's a lot of players here with playoff experience, and

702
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: I think they're going to be doubted a lot during

703
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: the week, and there's going to be a lot of

704
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: people jumping on the Detroit story. And whenever you get

705
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield getting doubted over the course of a week,

706
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: you're gonna get the better version of Baker Mayfeld. And

707
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: just like think about the smile on Todd Bowles's face

708
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: at the end of that game, Like this team is

709
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: playing with house money, and that's a dangerous thing.

710
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: In January, Baker're gonna get the Gino Smith contract rereg

711
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: something like that.

712
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I could be wrong. I don't.

713
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 6: I don't think he's gonna get that much.

714
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: But it's funny how these playoff games mean so much,

715
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: because like let's say Antoine Winfield doesn't make that play

716
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: where he knocks the ball out at the half yard

717
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: line last week, and the Panthers end up beating the Bucks.

718
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: You know, because the Bucks I think had.

719
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: Basically no touchdowns over eight quarters other than garbage time

720
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: for two weeks against the Saints and the Panthers like

721
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: the Baker's not getting anything. But then you come out

722
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: and you play great tonight, and you play great, great

723
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: next week. Yeah, no, I know it, and it's been

724
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: a good season. And yeah, I don't think you would

725
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: get that contract.

726
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: But but that because that's not I point that one now,

727
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: because it wasn't overly lavish.

728
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: It rewarded him and positioned Jim clearly as the he's

729
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: talking guaranteed that would be surprising to me. But they

730
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: they might feel some real loyalty, especially if he plays

731
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: well in Detroit and it's a good matchup.

732
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Before we move on, let's hear from a Baker Mayfield

733
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: after the game.

734
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: We fought so.

735
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 7: Hard to get to this point, to get a chance

736
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 7: to be in the playoffs, and I'm so proud of

737
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 7: this team tonight, the way we came out.

738
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: And started fast.

739
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 7: I'll just I'm so proud and so we want to

740
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 7: give ourselves a chance, and now we.

741
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: Did just that. We can play better than we did tonight.

742
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: But it's on to the next one. So we're on

743
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: a Detroit mm hmmm.

744
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Bakers won a playoff game for the first time since

745
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: that Browns win over the Steelers. Mark so he is

746
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: no stranger to the big stage and we will see

747
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: what happens next. Weird, weird to see the Eagles, just

748
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: bizarre to see them crumble the way they did.

749
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: The same thing happened five years ago.

750
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: They the people in it, like in their organization that

751
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: have been there the whole time, have to be feeling

752
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: such whiplash. I know, the team that defended the title

753
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 3: was better than this. They were competitive in the playoffs.

754
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: It wasn't a collapse quite like that, but they were

755
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: nine and seven that that season after they won the

756
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and then the next year the floor totally

757
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: fell out and the guy they had given you know,

758
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: all that money to, Carson Wentz, was like, is this

759
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: guy even gonna stay on our team? And here we

760
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: are again. I don't think Hurts is going to have

761
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: that trajectory, But like I mean, but shoot, you think

762
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: if it's along the same line right now.

763
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Forget about ten and one, Mark, Let's go back to

764
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: last year's draft and when they you know, everything, everything

765
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: they were doing was being hailed as genius and they

766
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: were seen as this team that was just yes, they

767
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: got beaten the Super Bowl, but this, this is the

768
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: organization in which you strive to be in the modern

769
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: NFL to where they are right now, it's it's going

770
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: to be a fascinating seventy two hours I think around

771
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: that organization. And Jason Kelcey, by the way, which I

772
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: thought was maybe a little Listen. I like Kelsey, We

773
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: all like Kelsey, good guy, great with the media, outstanding

774
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: football center, but treating it like Michael Jordan retirement watch

775
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the ESPN telecasts felt a little strong.

776
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: He left the locker room without speaking to reporters, and

777
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of speculation that his career will be

778
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: coming to an end even though he's still playing at

779
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: a high level. So there's gonna be change around the Eagles,

780
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: you know it. I thought Troy Aikman made some you know,

781
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: good points and some kind of heavy comments that the

782
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: idea of, like you could tell immediately that this team

783
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: was checked out before the game started, and the only

784
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: way to fix this situation is substantial changes to re

785
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: energize the fan base and get the organization back on track.

786
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: What will Laurie do, It's almost probably what he's thinking

787
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: about when they're showing him in that suite.

788
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean it goes beyond Kelsey too, because

789
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: guys like Fletcher Cock, Brandon Grahams Watkins, DeAndre Swift, Zach Cunningham,

790
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: Nicholas Moreau, and there's like fifteen other guys that are

791
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: like pending free agents. So I think, no matter what,

792
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: the Eagles are going to look functionally very different and

793
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: with it while the team took a dip, and I'm

794
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: not I'm not down on jail and hurts entirely, but

795
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 4: I would say that like a year ago, he was

796
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: like an overt MVP candidate and and just kind of

797
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: to see what's happened to him over the last five

798
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 4: or six weeks leaves you questioning like the entire future.

799
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: And there were no questions going into this year around hers.

800
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Who knows his number one wide receiver might be asking

801
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: out of town, Like there's a lot of.

802
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: Things up to make big trades to be bold. And

803
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: that's when I say they it's essentially Howie Roseman, but

804
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: it's also Jeffrey Loriie, and.

805
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: That it makes me wonder, like whose decision what?

806
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: Like I don't necessarily assume it was Nick Sierry Andy's

807
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: decision to even make the change with John decide like

808
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: that might have been Jeffrey Lourie and or Howie Roseman.

809
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: So the reporting that's been around the Eagles over the

810
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: years reminds me of how baseball managers are very upset

811
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: with the moneybollification in baseball, of like how the front

812
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: office is basically telling coaches what to do. The Eagles

813
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: feel as close to that as any NFL team, where

814
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: they view the coaches as a little fungible and that

815
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: Roseman and even Lurry is kind of kind of calling

816
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: the shots in this org.

817
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: All right.

818
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: So that's where we're at, one round complete in the

819
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: NFL playoffs. Let's hit some news, starting with this broke

820
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: in the second half of the Eagles Bucks tilt, the

821
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons interviewed Bill Belichick for the head coaching job.

822
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: The team announced Monday that they interviewed Belichick. It is

823
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: the first known interviewing done by the famous coach since

824
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: Belichick and the Patriots mutually parted ways. Belichick has been

825
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: a head coach of twenty nine seasons, twenty four in

826
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: New England, five in Cleveland, and of course, maybe his

827
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: most famous victory is Brady and company overcoming a twenty

828
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: eight to three deficit in Super Bowl fifty one against

829
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: the wait for it, Atlanta Falcons. So it's just everything

830
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: about it is as a football fan strange mark because

831
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: you just you can't imagine Belichick being on another sideline.

832
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: You can't imagine him being part of an interview process,

833
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: and it's kind of hard to imagine him on the

834
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Falcons after twenty eight to three. A great tweet tweeted

835
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: the night by Nora Princiati quote tweeted the Falcons announcing

836
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: that the interview is done above it. Can you tell

837
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: us about a time you face significant odds and how

838
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: you overcame them?

839
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: Did you watch the game on Monday?

840
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: Well?

841
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah.

842
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: It was kind of like like it's kind of like

843
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: Meryl Streep having to like audition for like a local

844
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: town performance of like Oklahoma. It's like we think we

845
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: pretty sure she can do this, but I I like,

846
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Speaker 4: I get it. I mean, you want to meet with

847
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 4: the owner, and I think that that's an important thing

848
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: to to Belichi. And I think Arthur Blank would be

849
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: a good owner for Belichick.

850
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: I really do.

851
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 4: I think that's like kind of like the key thing

852
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 4: for the final.

853
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: Stage of his career.

854
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: But then he'd walk into a situation not unlike Arthur

855
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: Smith where it's like, what are you doing with quarterback?

856
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: That's what we just did with Belichick.

857
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: So I always the Falcons feel like a bit of

858
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: a weird fit to me for for Bill Belichick.

859
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know.

860
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: I don't There aren't a lot of Greg There aren't

861
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: a bunch of teams lining up to talk to him

862
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: right now.

863
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 6: From what we know, I thought it was interesting.

864
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: Tom Pellisero, the pell Raiser, I think I had this first,

865
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: and if he didn't, I apologize. But he definitely had

866
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: the info that it was in person, which to me

867
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: was was meaningful. Whether a it shows a seriousness to it,

868
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: like you know, they're not messing around.

869
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Speaker 2: We know how to do a remote camera setup. I mean,

870
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: let's be fair.

871
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if it was in Atlanta, so

872
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: I was like, if Belichick's getting on a plane, it's like, shoo,

873
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: he's probably taking the jobs happening. And if he's getting

874
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: on a plane, if if Arthur Blank got on the

875
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: plane and came to Foxborough, either the fact that the

876
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: news is out there, that it's in person almost signals

877
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: to me that like, hey, if there's anyone else that's

878
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: gonna get in this, you better do it now, because

879
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, we just met in person and we might

880
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: we might go ahead and do this thing. Yeah, I mean,

881
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe it reading the tweet that they

882
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: tweeted it out and there was like a little picture

883
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: with it.

884
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 6: It's just like, what is just.

885
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: It's almost as if that using the word interview just

886
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: doesn't even seem right when it's Bill Belichick. Say, we

887
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: met with Bill Belichick about our open position, Like right,

888
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: if anything, he should be interviewing you.

889
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: And maybe that's part of the uh if.

890
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: There are teams and there are many teams looking for

891
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: a coach right now that are apprehensive about entertaining the idea,

892
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: it's just the enormity of the belichickness of it all.

893
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: But like I'm like with you, mark On, I think

894
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's worth a very serious conversation at the Star.

895
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles should be talking about it if

896
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: they're looking to make a big change potentially. I think

897
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: Belichick is someone that any team looking to hire a

898
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: coach right now should take advantage of the blessing that

899
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: he's at least an option potentially and.

900
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: Meet with him if you can.

901
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of people have the option

902
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: to engage in a potential business arrangement with Lamar Jackson

903
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: and they galaxy brain their way out of that one.

904
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: So this one had surprised me either. Same think with

905
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Tom Brady.

906
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: By the way, no one, not any teams, particularly one

907
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: him like the Chargers kind of did. And that was

908
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: about it. Man, don't let Belichick go to the Eagles.

909
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: I might have to just, you know, become an Eagles

910
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: fan here for.

911
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh, that will make you become an Eagles fan, Greg.

912
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: I love that for you know, it's all relative. I

913
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: picked the Bucks tonight. I was I wanted this team

914
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: to go away. This team was done though.

915
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: I went five and one this week. I had a

916
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: nice week overall. Job.

917
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: They Cowboys obviously ding me and the rest of the world.

918
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: But things you know the home team's played well obviously

919
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: this weekend, except for Dallas, which is ironic because they

920
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: were the best home team in the league this year.

921
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: But next week will be another challenge in terms of picks.

922
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: In other news, hey, hey, speaking of the Patriots. This

923
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: went down in a funky timing in terms of our

924
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: podcast taping schedule, but Gerrod Mayo was indeed hired to

925
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: replace Bill Belichick as the Patriots coach. Thirty seven years old.

926
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: He's a Patriot lifer. He's a linebacker for the team

927
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: in the glory days, and it's been on the staff

928
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: in different roles for years. He becomes the first black

929
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: head coach in Patriots history, which is great obviously. And

930
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: I guess the one question I have, Greg.

931
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: Because I think you did share you harbored some.

932
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: You were a little concerned about the idea of moving

933
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: on from Belichick and then moving right to kind of

934
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: a Belichick disciple and another defensive minded guy. I had

935
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: a chance to start fresh. And you're obviously bringing in

936
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback, so it's not a slam dunk bringing in

937
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: a hot shot play caller and then drafting a quarterback move.

938
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean it can't.

939
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: Work no, And Gerard Mayo is known as like an incredible.

940
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: Leader inside that locker room.

941
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: He was as a player in a great football mind,

942
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 3: And I think that was just my first reaction was like, well,

943
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: do we really think Belichick's the problem, like the total

944
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: problem here, because all you're doing is like you're given

945
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: one of his assistants a promotion.

946
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: We don't know who the GM is.

947
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: There's some reporting that they don't mind not having a

948
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: GM till the draft, So I think it's this guy

949
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: that's in house, which is Elliott wolf Ron Wolfe's old son.

950
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Is my guess is because obviously someone has to be

951
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: the GM through the next regns, but they might not

952
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: like officially make it happen or something.

953
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let's you could also connect the dots and

954
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Robert Crafts wanted this to be his show for a

955
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: long time, and all of a sudden, Robert and his

956
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: son might be able to be on all the shots.

957
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: I mean, that would do the Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, that.

958
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: Would be concerning It would be Jonathan I mean Robert Kraft,

959
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: who was pretty good on that press conference, I thought,

960
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: all things considered, but he's eighty I think he's eighty two,

961
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: he's eighty three. I mean those Jerry Jones. Yeah, it's

962
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: a little it's a little worrisome. That said, he is

963
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: the first one to get hired, and there are like

964
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: people really do believe in him. James Palmer had a

965
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 3: good thing on our on our show, the NFL Report,

966
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: of how it would be different, how he has all

967
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: these ideas. He's already interviewing like special teams coordinators. The

968
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: guy from the Falcons, who's like respected as you know,

969
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: one of the top ones in the league. Is like

970
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: he's getting to do this before anyone else does it.

971
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: So I guess they have a little bit of a

972
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: head start and he's got some ideas. But I'm I'm

973
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: a little skeptical. He is apparently trying to keep Steve Belichick,

974
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: which is that to.

975
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: Me his bizarre you know what?

976
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 6: Those like that that they're close. They've worked together for

977
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 6: like eight years now, so they're.

978
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Like best friends, like they consider each other.

979
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 4: Steve Belichick called him like his like a he felt

980
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 4: like his a brother to him.

981
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 6: So it's like maybe he don't go with his dad.

982
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well right, I think also, what's wrong with branching

983
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 4: out on your own. I mean, and Dan you mentioned

984
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: on the other show, it's like you don't want to

985
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 4: be the guy that follows, you know, Belichick the guy.

986
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 4: The only thing about this situation in particular versus coming

987
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: off like a Belichick you know, super Bowl or something,

988
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: is like the past couple of years with Belichick have

989
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: been distasteful to Patriots fans and messy, and so it's

990
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: not I don't think it's the quite as bad of

991
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 4: a situation as like taking over for what we think

992
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 4: taking over for Bill Belichick would be. It's like it's

993
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: been a bad Patriots experience. His fresh blood. He's liked

994
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: inside the building, if players like him, like, I don't know,

995
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't hate it. I kind of It's who Craft

996
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 4: wanted for a year. He's been talked about for two

997
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: plus years.

998
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: So his guy tract.

999
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: They didn't have to, right, They literally didn't have to

1000
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 3: interview anyone else, which you would have to with the

1001
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: Rooney rule, even though Mayo's black, that is a rule

1002
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: you still have to interview, you know, multiple candidates unless

1003
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: you have it written into your contract that it's a

1004
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: succession plan. And he did just like making up the

1005
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: rules as we go no like Eric Tacosta had it.

1006
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 3: The Ravens GM there was like they had like three

1007
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: exact examples of like times this has happened with GM

1008
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: or coaches that if you put it in, you can

1009
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: do it and that's it all right.

1010
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Well, absence also makes the harco fonder and Patriots fans

1011
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: even though they grew listen. Part of great incredible success,

1012
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: like the Pats had is the fan base gets spoiled

1013
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: and expects it always to be that way. But there's

1014
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: gonna be pressure on Mayo to show that this thing

1015
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: is on track or it's just gonna be more then

1016
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: the fan base and the ownership like longing for the

1017
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: good old days, that those those nine super Bowl appearances

1018
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: and six titles are going to cast a long shadow

1019
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: that will last, you know, decades.

1020
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 6: That's maybe the rest of my life, you know.

1021
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: That's the Prosially, if Belichick is winning super Bowls with

1022
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts next year doing his Toush push and getting

1023
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: gaateaid back.

1024
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Take it from a Yankee fan, like, it's not good

1025
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: enough to just make the playoffs. You need to continue

1026
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: to acquire chips, and if you don't, it's considered failure.

1027
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: So Mayo's got a big job ahead of him. But

1028
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: first thing they got to do is find a quarterback

1029
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 1: for him, or he doesn't have a chance in hell.

1030
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: Anything else in the news that you guys wanted to

1031
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: throw out there.

1032
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Not really. You mentioned Harbaugh yesterday.

1033
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: The fact that he's already interviewing with the Chargers and

1034
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: he might take another one or two tells me he

1035
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: got on from Michigan and that's a fun one. And

1036
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 3: otherwise all these teams are doing a million interviews.

1037
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 6: But we'll wait till.

1038
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: All's quiet and Dallas still twenty four hours after the

1039
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys meltdown.

1040
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: We also have I believe.

1041
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: The Dolphins giving some form of supportive words for Tua

1042
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: with his contract status uncertain. But we will be tracking

1043
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: all this stuff as it continues to roll out. We'll

1044
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday. Hopefully we'll get Connie unless he

1045
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: gets pulled into another nefarious three forty five Park Avenue event,

1046
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: or she's in hiding as an Eagles fan and doesn't

1047
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: want to do the show. I don't know what we're

1048
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna find out, but the hope is that Colleen rejoins

1049
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: us because it's been too long without the tiny box.

1050
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 2: So make sure you're there for that.

1051
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: And until then, thank you to everyone for listening and

1052
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: we are one round, done.

1053
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: Three to go to Wednesday. Heed the call.