WEBVTT - BP EXCLUSIVE: Zohran On ICE, Eric Adams, Bibi Arrest 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.680 Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here, 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.280 and we here at Breaking Points, are already thinking of 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.559 ways we can up our game for this critical election. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.680 We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.080 the studio ad staff give you, guys, the best independent 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.400 coverage that is possible. If you like what we're all about, 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.960 it just means the absolute world to have your support. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.439 But enough with that, let's get to the show. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.600 This is Griffin from Breaking Points and I'm here seven 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:29.600 minutes with zoron Mamdani's. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:29.560 How's it going? 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:30.400 How you doing man? 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:30.840 Too? Well? 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:31.000 Man? 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:31.639 That's a great shirp. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.120 By the way, Oh thanks Man. I had to buy 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.199 it because the airline lost my luggage on the way here. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:36.720 We're not giving them a shoutout. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:37.280 This is for you. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:37.840 Sure. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.519 I wanted to start with a picture. We interviewed you 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:46.080 a year ago. It's been a long time since. Man, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.879 the lots changed. What advice do you have for that 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.280 young Zora on a year ago? 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:52.879 What date was that? 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:53.720 This? 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.160 I mean it says eleven months ago. And we used 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.080 to get like thirty k views on the first one. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:00:59.680 Now we're racking them up. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:01.560 There, you know, The reason I ask about the date 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.240 is because about a year ago we went out to 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.840 Fordham Road and Hillside Avenue spoke to New Yorkers. Many 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.600 of them would voted for Trump, and we ask them 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.199 why m And I think the advice that I would 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.959 give that Zorn I would continue to give myself every 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.720 day is listen to New Yorkers and a lot of 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.440 times the political impulses is lecture, tell New Yorkers what 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.800 they should care about. What we found is that the 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.920 best campaign you can build is one that actually reflects 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.119 what New Yorkers are concerned about. It's cost of living 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.679 again and again. The other thing I would say is 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.480 maybe bench press a little bit more, but it's too 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:35.880 late for that. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.600 All right, We're gonna cut the push up contact. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:38.520 Yes, all right. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.679 So you recently released a video about being Muslim in 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.240 New York City and the experience of that. Typically, when 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.840 you've been asked about identity issues, you've pivoted back to 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:50.280 your core campaign promises about affordability. Why do that video now? 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.680 And do you feel like Democrat politicians have your back 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.080 in this environment where you know, in my personal opinion, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.720 the Cuomo opposition and the Cuomos orders are hitting you 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.280 with a lot of what I would say is George W. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.280 Bush era racist attacks. Do you feel like they have 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:05.720 your back? 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.799 You know, I've appreciated the words of support that I've 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.320 received from a number of leaders within our party, especially 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.679 here in New York City. I do think, however, that 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.120 of many of the Muslim New Yorkers who do not 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.320 have the luxury of being the Democratic nominee for mayor, 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.520 who deal with these indignities every single day. And the 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.920 fact is that this racism is so endemic in our 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.400 city's politics that when one hears it, one does not 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.720 know if it's from a Republican or a Democrat, and 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.440 it's you know, people have asked me why did I 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.040 call it Islamophobia? And I just tell them what Andrew 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.280 Cuomo said, because the evidence is right there. This is 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.799 a man who went on a radio show and when 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.760 the host said that I would cheer another nine to eleven, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.720 Andrew Cuomo laughed and agreed. He later went that same 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.640 day to accept Eric Adams's endorsement. Adam said that he 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.880 was endorsing him to stop a movement of violent extremists, 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.080 to stop New York City from becoming Europe to stop 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.000 a movement that was burning churches in Nigeria. This is 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.120 the kind of islamophobia that the closing message of these 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.440 other candidates, and the reason I decided to say something 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.079 about it is because this level of bigotry, it's one 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.920 that should still shock the conscience, despite how unsurprising it 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:11.800 may be in this moment. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.880 So freeze the rent. Let's talk about some of the 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.040 course stuff. So we've been hearing talk that Eric Adams 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.040 is trying to pack the rental board with people on 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.360 your way out like a reality TV real estate guys 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.000 getting on there. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.200 I think she stars in a show called Selling New 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.359 York on the Nose. Eric Adam's Zio, what. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.040 Are you going to do about that if you're mayor? 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.640 And also, how are you going to stop landlords from 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.600 you know, cutting back on cleaning or safety in the 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.040 buildings if you freeze the rent? 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.560 You know. I think there's a few things. The first 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.800 is the Community Service Society, which does incredible studies. They 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.320 found that actually the rent that's being paid doesn't have 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.120 a significant relationship with the repairs that landlords are doing. Oftentimes, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.400 and I've heard this actually from a number of tenants 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.040 myself of that they've been paying their rent year after year, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.960 and a lot of their landlords are actually denying them 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.320 the repairs that they're owed. And so I think when 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.920 we freeze the rent, you know we are doing so 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.440 to provide relief to more than two million rent stabilized 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.800 tenants across the five boroughs. We're not doing it actually 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.720 to punish landlords, because we're actually trying to also make 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.400 it easier for those landlords to maintain those properties by 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.640 helping them take on the rise and cost of insurance 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.880 or the water bill or Coneedison. These are things we 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.160 can do in tandem with our commitment to freeze the rent. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.240 And look, Eric Adams's attempt to stack the rent Guidelines 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.040 Board is unacceptable. It's a betrayal of New Yorkers. It's 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.880 also a continuation of this politics for the last four years. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.800 And I continue to be confident in our ability to 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:30.719 deliver that rent freeze. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.560 As a renterer in New York, I feel betrayed by that, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.880 by the Eric Adams things. How about you just said 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.320 I want to talk about ice. We're seeing all these 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.600 ice videos of goons, unmasked people taking people off the streets. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.039 Are you going to instruct the NPT to arrest ICE 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.039 or other federal agents that break the law in the city. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.960 Look, anybody who breaks the law in this city has 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.159 to be held to account, whether that's ICE or whomever else. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.080 And I think that that should be just the standard 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:54.839 that we have in the city and in this country. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.040 And what we found is that ICE is a reckless entity. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.000 It cares little about the law, it cares even less 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.039 about the people that it's supposed to serve, and so 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.000 much of its purpose is to intimidate and terrorize people 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.280 across this country. And we saw that with the recent 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.360 raid on Canal Street. It's not just about the people 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.440 that they threw against the wall. It's about the messages 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.240 the're trying to send to New Yorkers that they can 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.240 do this kind of a thing. And it's possible for 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.040 them in this moment because they have a mayor who 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.840 went on national TV to open the door to civil 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:19.880 immigration enforcement. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.560 All right, I want to talk flagrant. In the first 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.080 couple of minutes of flagrant, you got Schultz to say 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.920 that housing is a human right. That's awesome. You clearly 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.400 passed the vibe check. Do other Democrats pass the vibe check. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.000 What's your advice for them going on these shows? 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.800 You know, I think it's funny. I've I've been running 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.480 for mayor for now more than a year, and that's 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.000 probably the first podcast that a lot of my own 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.599 friends actually listened to I did, and I think it 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.760 speaks to the fact that you have to treat, you know, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.080 New Yorkers, especially young New Yorkers, with legitimacy as well 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.200 as the places where they actually get their news. And 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.000 so often there's a condescension in our political approach to 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.440 anything that goes beyond traditional media, and I think it's 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:55.880 time to bring that to an end. My advice to 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.000 anyone going on those shows is just to be yourself, 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.160 because if you're not, they will definitely get to the 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.120 bottom of that pretty quick. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:02.400 Okay, I got one more question for you, and then 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:03.840 I want to hear about the proposals and how people 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:04.320 can help you. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:04.840 Sounds good. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.880 So we talked about the NYPD we're going to and 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.359 your team's tell your wrap up. So we're looking up 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.040 this quick. Are you going to arrest in Yahoo? Especially 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.280 with this NYPD commissioner? 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:15.880 Look, I've said time and again that I believe that 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.039 New York City is a city that believes international law 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.960 should have an actual embodiment of an international law. Benjamin 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.919 Nettan Yahoo has been issued in arrest warrant by the 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.680 International Criminal Court, and I believe that is something that 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.680 we should seek to honor. I've also said that I 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.040 will exhaust every legal possibility to do so. If there 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.600 is not a law, I'm not going to create one 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.640 because I'm not Donald Trump, but this is what I 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:37.880 would actually be looking to do. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.680 So last question, you know this, They've got a few days, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.320 but six days, five days? What can people do to 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.400 help you in this time? We have a national audience, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.240 So what can our national audience do to help you 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.240 at this moment? And let's roll through the right. We're 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.880 freezing the rant, Universal. 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.240 Child can freeze the rent, going to mean buses, fasts 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.800 and redeliver universal childcare. And the way that you can 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.359 get involved to go to zoran for NYC dot com, Forward, slash, gootv. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:06:59.640 If you live in New York City, you can sign 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.599 up for a care amassing shift. If you don't, you 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.400 can sign up for phone banking. Because the reason I'm 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:04.960 sitting in front of you It's not just the one 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.479 point six million doors that volunteers knocked on in the primary. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.359 It's the two point one million phone calls that they 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.440 also made, and that can be done from anywhere across 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.240 this country. So on good luck, Thank you, my friend, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.280 thank you. Appreciate it.