1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and we here at Breaking Points, are already thinking of 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: ways we can up our game for this critical election. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: the studio ad staff give you, guys, the best independent 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: coverage that is possible. If you like what we're all about, 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: it just means the absolute world to have your support. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: But enough with that, let's get to the show. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: This is Griffin from Breaking Points and I'm here seven 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: minutes with zoron Mamdani's. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: How's it going? 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: How you doing man? 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: Too? Well? 14 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Man? 15 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 3: That's a great shirp. 16 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: By the way, Oh thanks Man. I had to buy 17 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: it because the airline lost my luggage on the way here. 18 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: We're not giving them a shoutout. 19 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: This is for you. 20 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: Sure. 21 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with a picture. We interviewed you 22 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a year ago. It's been a long time since. Man, 23 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: the lots changed. What advice do you have for that 24 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: young Zora on a year ago? 25 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: What date was that? 26 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: This? 27 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean it says eleven months ago. And we used 28 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: to get like thirty k views on the first one. 29 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Now we're racking them up. 30 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: There, you know, The reason I ask about the date 31 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: is because about a year ago we went out to 32 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: Fordham Road and Hillside Avenue spoke to New Yorkers. Many 33 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: of them would voted for Trump, and we ask them 34 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 3: why m And I think the advice that I would 35 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: give that Zorn I would continue to give myself every 36 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: day is listen to New Yorkers and a lot of 37 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: times the political impulses is lecture, tell New Yorkers what 38 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: they should care about. What we found is that the 39 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: best campaign you can build is one that actually reflects 40 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: what New Yorkers are concerned about. It's cost of living 41 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: again and again. The other thing I would say is 42 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: maybe bench press a little bit more, but it's too 43 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: late for that. 44 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna cut the push up contact. 45 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: Yes, all right. 46 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: So you recently released a video about being Muslim in 47 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: New York City and the experience of that. Typically, when 48 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: you've been asked about identity issues, you've pivoted back to 49 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: your core campaign promises about affordability. Why do that video now? 50 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: And do you feel like Democrat politicians have your back 51 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: in this environment where you know, in my personal opinion, 52 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: the Cuomo opposition and the Cuomos orders are hitting you 53 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of what I would say is George W. 54 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: Bush era racist attacks. Do you feel like they have 55 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: your back? 56 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: You know, I've appreciated the words of support that I've 57 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: received from a number of leaders within our party, especially 58 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: here in New York City. I do think, however, that 59 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: of many of the Muslim New Yorkers who do not 60 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: have the luxury of being the Democratic nominee for mayor, 61 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: who deal with these indignities every single day. And the 62 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: fact is that this racism is so endemic in our 63 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: city's politics that when one hears it, one does not 64 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: know if it's from a Republican or a Democrat, and 65 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: it's you know, people have asked me why did I 66 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: call it Islamophobia? And I just tell them what Andrew 67 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: Cuomo said, because the evidence is right there. This is 68 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: a man who went on a radio show and when 69 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: the host said that I would cheer another nine to eleven, 70 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: Andrew Cuomo laughed and agreed. He later went that same 71 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: day to accept Eric Adams's endorsement. Adam said that he 72 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: was endorsing him to stop a movement of violent extremists, 73 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: to stop New York City from becoming Europe to stop 74 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: a movement that was burning churches in Nigeria. This is 75 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: the kind of islamophobia that the closing message of these 76 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: other candidates, and the reason I decided to say something 77 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: about it is because this level of bigotry, it's one 78 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: that should still shock the conscience, despite how unsurprising it 79 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: may be in this moment. 80 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: So freeze the rent. Let's talk about some of the 81 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: course stuff. So we've been hearing talk that Eric Adams 82 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: is trying to pack the rental board with people on 83 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: your way out like a reality TV real estate guys 84 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: getting on there. 85 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: I think she stars in a show called Selling New 86 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: York on the Nose. Eric Adam's Zio, what. 87 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Are you going to do about that if you're mayor? 88 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: And also, how are you going to stop landlords from 89 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, cutting back on cleaning or safety in the 90 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: buildings if you freeze the rent? 91 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: You know. I think there's a few things. The first 92 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: is the Community Service Society, which does incredible studies. They 93 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: found that actually the rent that's being paid doesn't have 94 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: a significant relationship with the repairs that landlords are doing. Oftentimes, 95 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: and I've heard this actually from a number of tenants 96 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: myself of that they've been paying their rent year after year, 97 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: and a lot of their landlords are actually denying them 98 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: the repairs that they're owed. And so I think when 99 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: we freeze the rent, you know we are doing so 100 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: to provide relief to more than two million rent stabilized 101 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: tenants across the five boroughs. We're not doing it actually 102 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: to punish landlords, because we're actually trying to also make 103 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: it easier for those landlords to maintain those properties by 104 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: helping them take on the rise and cost of insurance 105 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: or the water bill or Coneedison. These are things we 106 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: can do in tandem with our commitment to freeze the rent. 107 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: And look, Eric Adams's attempt to stack the rent Guidelines 108 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: Board is unacceptable. It's a betrayal of New Yorkers. It's 109 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: also a continuation of this politics for the last four years. 110 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: And I continue to be confident in our ability to 111 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: deliver that rent freeze. 112 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: As a renterer in New York, I feel betrayed by that, 113 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: by the Eric Adams things. How about you just said 114 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about ice. We're seeing all these 115 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: ice videos of goons, unmasked people taking people off the streets. 116 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: Are you going to instruct the NPT to arrest ICE 117 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: or other federal agents that break the law in the city. 118 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: Look, anybody who breaks the law in this city has 119 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: to be held to account, whether that's ICE or whomever else. 120 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: And I think that that should be just the standard 121 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: that we have in the city and in this country. 122 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: And what we found is that ICE is a reckless entity. 123 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: It cares little about the law, it cares even less 124 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: about the people that it's supposed to serve, and so 125 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: much of its purpose is to intimidate and terrorize people 126 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: across this country. And we saw that with the recent 127 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: raid on Canal Street. It's not just about the people 128 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: that they threw against the wall. It's about the messages 129 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: the're trying to send to New Yorkers that they can 130 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: do this kind of a thing. And it's possible for 131 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: them in this moment because they have a mayor who 132 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: went on national TV to open the door to civil 133 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: immigration enforcement. 134 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk flagrant. In the first 135 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: couple of minutes of flagrant, you got Schultz to say 136 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: that housing is a human right. That's awesome. You clearly 137 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: passed the vibe check. Do other Democrats pass the vibe check. 138 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: What's your advice for them going on these shows? 139 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: You know, I think it's funny. I've I've been running 140 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: for mayor for now more than a year, and that's 141 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: probably the first podcast that a lot of my own 142 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: friends actually listened to I did, and I think it 143 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: speaks to the fact that you have to treat, you know, 144 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: New Yorkers, especially young New Yorkers, with legitimacy as well 145 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: as the places where they actually get their news. And 146 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: so often there's a condescension in our political approach to 147 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: anything that goes beyond traditional media, and I think it's 148 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: time to bring that to an end. My advice to 149 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: anyone going on those shows is just to be yourself, 150 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: because if you're not, they will definitely get to the 151 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: bottom of that pretty quick. 152 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I got one more question for you, and then 153 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: I want to hear about the proposals and how people 154 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: can help you. 155 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: Sounds good. 156 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: So we talked about the NYPD we're going to and 157 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: your team's tell your wrap up. So we're looking up 158 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: this quick. Are you going to arrest in Yahoo? Especially 159 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: with this NYPD commissioner? 160 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: Look, I've said time and again that I believe that 161 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: New York City is a city that believes international law 162 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: should have an actual embodiment of an international law. Benjamin 163 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: Nettan Yahoo has been issued in arrest warrant by the 164 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: International Criminal Court, and I believe that is something that 165 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: we should seek to honor. I've also said that I 166 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: will exhaust every legal possibility to do so. If there 167 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: is not a law, I'm not going to create one 168 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: because I'm not Donald Trump, but this is what I 169 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: would actually be looking to do. 170 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: So last question, you know this, They've got a few days, 171 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: but six days, five days? What can people do to 172 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: help you in this time? We have a national audience, 173 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: So what can our national audience do to help you 174 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: at this moment? And let's roll through the right. We're 175 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: freezing the rant, Universal. 176 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: Child can freeze the rent, going to mean buses, fasts 177 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: and redeliver universal childcare. And the way that you can 178 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: get involved to go to zoran for NYC dot com, Forward, slash, gootv. 179 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: If you live in New York City, you can sign 180 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: up for a care amassing shift. If you don't, you 181 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: can sign up for phone banking. Because the reason I'm 182 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: sitting in front of you It's not just the one 183 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: point six million doors that volunteers knocked on in the primary. 184 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: It's the two point one million phone calls that they 185 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: also made, and that can be done from anywhere across 186 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: this country. So on good luck, Thank you, my friend, 187 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: thank you. Appreciate it.