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Speaker 1: Natively and pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 2: Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Y'all all right, we got some fans and the Bill

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Speaker 3: and I heard a distant welcome home. We are thrilled

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Speaker 3: to be in the ATM shoty. We got a couple

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Speaker 3: of guests coming up that we're absolutely thrilled to have

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Speaker 3: joining us today.

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Speaker 4: Some of you all know.

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Speaker 3: Him from some viral videos where he's preaching the word

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Speaker 3: every single Sunday. Others of you may know him from

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Speaker 3: the latest action around Target the Target Fast. It is

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Speaker 3: none other than Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant in the building.

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Speaker 4: Jamal, come on and also joining us.

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Speaker 3: Oh he got and last, but certainly not least, we

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Speaker 3: have doctor Lakeisha key Helman from Village Market, Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: I know y'all have been that way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, okay, So again you all. We are the

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Speaker 3: Native Land Pod where we shoot with iHeart every single week.

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Speaker 3: Our podcast drop on Thursday, and today we're having a

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Speaker 3: really important conversation. We are at invest Fest, so we

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Speaker 3: want to have a conversation about the black dollar turning

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Speaker 3: over in our own community. So I'm gonna start with you,

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Speaker 3: doctor Bryant. We saw a really big development this week

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Speaker 3: in the Target fast.

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Speaker 4: Can you talk to the people.

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Speaker 3: A little bit about what happened and where black folks

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Speaker 3: should go from here?

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Speaker 5: Before he answers that, can we just do a quick survey.

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Speaker 5: How many of y'all have stopped shopping at Target in

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Speaker 5: the wake of their boycott? Very good? How many of

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Speaker 5: y'all snuck off once or twice? I think get Ain't

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Speaker 5: nobody gonna see you?

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Speaker 6: We see you.

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Speaker 4: Come on down to the halter.

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Speaker 7: Let me first say thank you to the community for

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Speaker 7: making this happen. This is a significant moment for this generation.

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Speaker 7: You have officially taken the torch from the civil rights

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Speaker 7: era to this movement. It's the most effective economic boycott

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Speaker 7: for black people in seventy years, which you give yourselves

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Speaker 7: a big hand for doing it. This week it was

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Speaker 7: announced that the president of Target was stepping down. It's

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Speaker 7: not true. He's stepping aside. The COO is now the

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Speaker 7: CEO and he is now the chairman of the board.

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Speaker 7: So Target is rewarding bad behavior. But I want to

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Speaker 7: thank you in spite of all of that, because you

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Speaker 7: have not gone to Target. For the last four months,

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Speaker 7: Target has lost twelve billion.

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Speaker 6: Dollars because of you.

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Speaker 7: The stock has dropped from one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 7: dollars a share to ninety three.

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Speaker 6: Dollars a share because of you.

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Speaker 7: I want you to know the CEO's salary has been

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Speaker 7: slashed by forty two percent. But what we want to

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Speaker 7: talk about today, if we could do all of that

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Speaker 7: directing money away from a big box corporation. What could

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Speaker 7: we do if we put all of that energy and

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Speaker 7: all of that economy into black businesses.

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Speaker 6: And I'm believing that we're going to do it in

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Speaker 6: this generation and in this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, we were talking backstage because a lot of black

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Speaker 1: brands Key are in Target and they're directly impacted by this.

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Speaker 1: Our really good friend friend of the show, a Rattler,

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Speaker 1: a FAM You grad like our brother Andrew Gilliam here. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: always represent Fam You. I hear some tears for Fam

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Speaker 1: You in the back, gorelous. But she, Melissa Butler, owns

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Speaker 1: the lip bar and she's impacted not only by these

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Speaker 1: tear from the Trump administration but also by the boycott.

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Speaker 1: So she's getting it from both ends. What is the

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Speaker 1: impact on black brands when we boycott, or the stories

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Speaker 1: like Target and how can we continue to support them?

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Speaker 1: So they are not a casualty of what we see

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Speaker 8: So first, I'm so excited to be here. Can I

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Speaker 8: say welcome home? I've been wanting to say it.

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Speaker 4: So welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 8: But one of the things that makes Melissa Lipbar so

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Speaker 8: special is that while she's in a massive retailer such

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Speaker 8: When we think about the impact of boycotts, it's more

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Speaker 8: so the impact of the infrastructure that our businesses do

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Speaker 8: not have. I think that we always have to position ourselves.

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Speaker 8: While we may get in mass retail, do we have

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Speaker 8: our own enterprises just in case the tithes change. And

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Speaker 8: one thing that has helped Melissa is that. So what

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Speaker 8: I want to empower all of you all to have.

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Speaker 8: You can have aspirations to be in big retail, that's fine,

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Speaker 8: but you shall also have your own infrastructure that if

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Speaker 8: something happens in corporate America that we're seeing now, that

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Speaker 8: you could still self sustain.

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Speaker 5: True, you know, So we were talking a backstage, how

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Speaker 5: you balance with a boycott where we hold corporations responsible

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Speaker 5: to be responsive to the people who are keeping them

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Speaker 5: Afloat the black dollar, I don't even know if we

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Speaker 5: should call it the black dollar. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 5: green dollar bill, and we're not spending it the way

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Speaker 5: we should within the black community in and of itself.

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Speaker 5: Black folks, we are ingenious, We are creators, We are inventors.

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Speaker 5: We are folks who own businesses even when we don't

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Speaker 5: have storefronts to speak of. And unfortunately, the corporations that

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Speaker 5: currently run the landscape in this country in the world

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Speaker 5: don't always do right by us by respecting us and

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Speaker 5: the way in which we spend our dollar. That's how

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Speaker 5: it was so we easy when Trump threatened corporations for

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Speaker 5: them to walk away and say, look, we don't have

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Speaker 5: a emphasis on black people anymore. They dropped it like

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Speaker 5: it was a hot iron, right, And so I guess

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Speaker 5: the question for me becomes when we walk away from

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Speaker 5: the corporation, at least, whether it's for a period.

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Speaker 6: Of time or we make that break permanently.

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Speaker 5: My guess is, or at least my suspicion is, is

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Speaker 5: that we are still taking our black slash green dollar

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Speaker 5: and spending it yet with another large, largely white, multinational corporation.

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Speaker 5: How do we get into the hands of consumers people

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Speaker 5: like us, the information that we need to make smart

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Speaker 5: decisions around. Okay, if I'm not going to target, I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to continue to cause offense by just moving

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Speaker 5: that dollar over the Walmart. I'm gonna take that dollar

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Speaker 5: and I'm gonna put it toward a business that is

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Speaker 5: black owned or majority shareholder black owned, or forty percent

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Speaker 5: black owned. That gets us closer to recycling that dollar

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Speaker 5: right back into our community.

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Speaker 8: Andrew, you speak of something that has always historically worked

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Speaker 8: in our communities for us, by us, we spend with us.

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Speaker 4: So it's less about.

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Speaker 8: The respect of Corporate America, but the respect that we

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Speaker 8: intentional with how we spend our money. I think what

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Speaker 8: we have to make sure that we're not chasing behind

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Speaker 8: Corporate America to make a shift when the power lies

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Speaker 8: and our ability that every time that we hit pay

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Speaker 8: we can direct where that spending is. So there's a

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Speaker 8: notion of voting with your dollars. We can wield our

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Speaker 8: power to spend with our own communities.

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Speaker 4: That has always.

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Speaker 8: Sustained us and it will always sustain us.

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Speaker 3: I want to go to this point really quick. I

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Speaker 3: want to do a little bit of a focus group

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Speaker 3: in here. If you all own a business, can you

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Speaker 3: raise your hands?

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Speaker 4: Look at this room?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you all this.

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Speaker 3: Do you only want want the money to come to

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Speaker 3: you when we're boycotting another entity?

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Speaker 4: Say yes or no?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want the money to come to you regardless.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, hopefully what we can do today, and.

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Speaker 3: Y'all we kind of pre potted already, but we talked

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Speaker 3: about this idea of what it means to not just.

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Speaker 4: Operate for our good when we're punishing the white entity.

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Speaker 3: It's also about how we build in this room with

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Speaker 3: all you black, brilliant business owners, how we support you,

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Speaker 3: whether that's with investments, whether it's with buying a product

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Speaker 3: or purchasing some type of a service, contracting with.

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Speaker 4: You for a service. That's the work of this panel. Now.

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Speaker 3: This needs to be a strategy session almost where we

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Speaker 3: can figure out how we best support y'all. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if we have mikes. If we have mikes, it

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Speaker 3: would be great to open that up.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that it's mindful that one of

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Speaker 7: the largest real estate holders on the planet is the

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Speaker 7: Catholic Church. The second global aid is McDonald. They're not

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Speaker 7: selling Hamburgers, that flipping real estate. There are twenty six

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Speaker 7: thousand Black churches across the country kid as registered. It's

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Speaker 7: probably about fifty thousand, but it's twenty six thousand Black

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Speaker 7: Black churches are only open two to three days a week.

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Speaker 7: One of the things that we piloted through this Target

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Speaker 7: Fast is we turned the megachurches into black malls.

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Speaker 6: So during Juneteenth.

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Speaker 7: Weekend and then Resurrection weekend, we took one hundred vendors

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Speaker 7: I think that the Black church has a role to

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Speaker 7: play that is central because of what I keep touting.

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Speaker 7: If the Black church only talks about black economics during

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Speaker 7: to be an economic development strategy of how it is

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Speaker 7: that we incubate these businesses so that they don't have

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Speaker 7: doing a disservice. I'll close by saying Desmond Tutu said,

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Speaker 7: at the end of every year, the poor people in

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Speaker 7: the community should vote to see whether the church is

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Speaker 7: open the next year. If that vote happened, I wonder

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Speaker 7: And so I think that we've got to bring the

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Speaker 7: can we do a partnership with my sister Key has

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Speaker 7: I think that the Black church has got to take a.

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Speaker 6: Page from it.

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Speaker 1: I want to struck by you talking about the Black

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Speaker 1: church at this moment right now, Reverend Bryant, because the

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Speaker 1: twin spirit of economic development is really community development, and

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Speaker 1: we are at a very dangerous time right now where

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Speaker 1: we're seeing our civil rights being rolled back. And so

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Speaker 1: while people are building, you know, individual empires and brands.

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Speaker 1: We want to invest in our safety and our community.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you while I'm here from Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Where there has been a federal takeover, thank you,

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Speaker 1: I see you, DC. Uh, there's been a federal takeover

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Speaker 1: of a black city, and I'm here.

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Speaker 3: There might have been a siren sound tiff and not

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Speaker 3: a woo like a holler like at this point, it's

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Speaker 3: a siren.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's And he's already declared that he is coming

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Speaker 1: to Baltimore, Chicago, and Oakland. So this terror, this tyranny,

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Speaker 1: this authoritarianism is coming soon to a city near you.

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Speaker 1: So something that we've talked about on Native lamdpod, which

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Speaker 1: is what price are you willing to pay? Because you

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Speaker 8: What you're talking about is coalition building at this particular

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Speaker 8: The choice of love has to be consistent. We have

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Speaker 8: If target is what brought you to the movement, it

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Speaker 7: I would say from the faith based in is look

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Speaker 6: But say, let's figure out a way that we can

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Speaker 7: Secondly, what nobody gives credit to is out of the

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Speaker 6: This the first time.

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Speaker 7: In the history of black people that while in a boycott,

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Speaker 7: So we high five and about Costco and not realizing

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Speaker 7: So we've got to figure out how do we employ ourselves,

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Speaker 7: The Patel family say in family here in the country,

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Speaker 6: They did it by.

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Speaker 7: Doing cooperative economics within their families. They lived in the hotel,

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Speaker 5: So I want to pick pick up a thread from

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Speaker 6: So I'd love for you all to address.

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Speaker 5: What you think it is that might be, and frankly,

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Speaker 5: for our audience, I want to applaud you because y'all

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Speaker 6: Your Saturday conversation.

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Speaker 5: When a lot of others chose to do something a

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Speaker 5: hell of a lot less constructive. So this isn't an

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Speaker 5: It's another attack, and that's intentional. But when it comes

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Speaker 5: fact that there is something mentally emotionally, maybe it's part

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about just with our everyday dollar, seeing that

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Speaker 5: Where do you pin that on?

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna push back, and then I'll yield to my sister,

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Speaker 7: who's really more policy in the area than I. This

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Speaker 7: a lot of us have been trained to go after

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Speaker 7: our passion and doing the business. When your passion is

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Speaker 7: your hobby, your profit is your solution. And so this

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Speaker 6: What is needed and necessary?

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Speaker 7: Does your community need another chicken wing stand, if somebody

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Speaker 7: do you need to really figure out when this big

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Speaker 7: What are you doing in terms of senior care. Every day,

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Speaker 7: What are you doing around senior services? When SNAP goes

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Speaker 7: You got to figure out is there a profit in

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Speaker 7: you'll be able to do well. And you can do

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Speaker 8: Two points on this there's three point one million black

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Speaker 4: So raise your hand right now. If it's just you

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Speaker 8: Company and it's cool, that is it's three point one million,

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Speaker 8: it's just you, and there is little chide two hundred

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Speaker 8: How do we lessen that three point one million, meaning

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Speaker 4: So we have to grow that two hundred thousand.

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Speaker 8: But I want to address Andrew's question around psyche, why

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Speaker 8: White supremacy is working. When you look in the mirror

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Speaker 4: So we have to get free in our minds.

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Speaker 8: We have to know that we are the algorithm that

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Speaker 8: And again I'm going to keep saying it. The greatest

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Speaker 6: I know Carter G.

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Speaker 5: this way in The Miseducation of the Negro that when

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Speaker 6: So your point.

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Speaker 5: Around the power of white supremacy in its lasting legacy

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Speaker 6: Simply asking ourselves, is this the thing that we ought

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Speaker 5: And I appreciate it, but I think it is going

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Speaker 8: It's called collective consciousness. That's what we have to tap

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Speaker 4: The way that we get deprogrammed.

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Speaker 8: We have to make a choice that being controlled by

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Speaker 8: So we have to shift the way that we see ourselves,

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Speaker 8: and where we should be proud of the businesses in

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Speaker 8: our community and wear them boldly as we do these

444
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Speaker 8: other brands who could care less about our legacy, about

445
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Speaker 8: our future, and could care less if this wealth gap

446
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Speaker 8: never changes.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I'd absolutely agree on the collective conscience business. It's necessary,

449
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Speaker 3: but we also have to take a step beyond consciousness

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Speaker 3: and thought leadership to action, especially in this moment. So

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Speaker 3: I want to just as a case study because my

452
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Speaker 3: brother Jamal brought this up. He talked about that big,

453
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Speaker 3: terrible bill, and in every piece of legislation, there is

454
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Speaker 3: always several business opportunities, even when the legislation seeks to destroy.

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Speaker 3: Something's seeking to destroy our reliance on a government that

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Speaker 3: we know never properly served us anyway. But what we

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Speaker 3: have to do in our collective consciousness is come together

458
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Speaker 3: and figure out where the gaps are. I'm actually really

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Speaker 3: excited today because one person who I know has been

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Speaker 3: working on a gap. And it's when you look at

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Speaker 3: Maslow's hierarchy of needs. One of the most basic things

462
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Speaker 3: on the hierarchy of needs is water. Black people are

463
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Speaker 3: still in this moment right now fighting for clean drinking water.

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Speaker 3: And I met this young man on our state of

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Speaker 3: the people who are my embarrassment and make them stand up,

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Speaker 3: King Bradford. Stand up, King Bradford. He's working on clean

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Speaker 3: drinking water in North Carolina, right on alkaline water.

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Speaker 4: And why am I doing this?

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Speaker 3: This isn't just a shout out, King Bradford. He's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a social clip out of this.

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Speaker 4: I love you, sit down, but this.

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Speaker 3: Is the point, y'all. There are other people in here

473
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Speaker 3: who are working on bottled water. Y'all, go find him

474
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Speaker 3: so you can build capacity, so you can scale for

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Speaker 3: the folks in here who are taking care of our seniors.

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Speaker 3: If you have a business where you take care of seniors,

477
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Speaker 3: can you stand up nobody or we got something.

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Speaker 4: About Oh we gotta feel Look at y'all.

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Speaker 3: If you know you need to scale, look around, see

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Speaker 3: each other and make sure that our seniors are good.

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Speaker 3: How many of y'all have restaurants or food trucks?

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Speaker 4: Anybody? They all working, They all working right now, but.

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Speaker 3: In some of them we need them to come together

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Speaker 3: to make sure that our kids are eating school lunch,

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Speaker 3: they can eat breakfast. We had a free breakfast pro

486
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Speaker 3: program with the Black Panthers, right we need to be

487
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Speaker 3: turning around and doing all of that right now. That

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Speaker 3: consciousness has to move to action to.

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Speaker 5: Follow upon your brilliant point is how many of us

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Speaker 5: work for local government. Any folks work for local government, city, county.

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Speaker 6: Any of those and you may know.

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Speaker 5: Some are related because local government was often in the

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Speaker 5: black community a way in which we were able to

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Speaker 5: move into the middle class by working government jobs.

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Speaker 6: And it's also the place it.

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Speaker 5: Is also the place where the government has turned to

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Speaker 5: basically eliminate the black middle class.

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Speaker 6: That's how black women have fallen.

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Speaker 5: So precipitously out of work is because of the job

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Speaker 5: firings of Donald Trump. But this was the point I

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Speaker 5: wanted to make around local government. If you work for

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Speaker 5: local government and you have a pension, there are guidelines

503
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Speaker 5: around those pensions that are set by the elected officials

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Speaker 5: for whom the government is run. They should be taking

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Speaker 5: those dollars, and we should be advocating for our dollars

506
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: because they're yours, that those dollars, when they are invested,

507
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Speaker 5: are invested a certain percentage back in black businesses in

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Speaker 5: the communities by which those dollars were created. Because right

509
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 5: now those dollars largely are being taken, and because we

510
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Speaker 5: have an affordability crisis in housing in Atlanta and in

511
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 5: so many other cities, that money is being spent with

512
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: venture capitalists who are buying up apartment complexes and wholesale

513
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Speaker 5: neighborhoods and then pricing us out of them. And when

514
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 5: we go then for rent, we're one day late and

515
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: they put us on eviction and all the fees that

516
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 5: come with it, and they build wealth for themselves and

517
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Speaker 5: we're paying for it. The local pension dollars are the

518
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Speaker 5: ones that are going into the investment firms or then

519
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Speaker 5: buying up the real estate and pricing us out.

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Speaker 6: So if you're in.

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Speaker 5: The local government, we ought to be advocating for the

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Speaker 5: policies that say I want ten percent of our retirement

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Speaker 5: investments to be invested right back here in this community.

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Speaker 7: I take I want to take the pole in a

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Speaker 7: different direction. Most of you, at least eighty percent of you,

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Speaker 7: are entrepreneurs or emerging entrepreneurs. The million dollar question I

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Speaker 7: want to ask is how many of you have accounts

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Speaker 7: at a black bank? Yeah, because we're asking target to

529
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Speaker 7: do it, but if our own business people are not

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Speaker 7: doing it, then we're in hypocrisy. And the reason why

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Speaker 7: black banking is so important is with all of the ideas,

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Speaker 7: with all of the plans, with all of the studies,

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Speaker 7: one of the things that we need desperately is access

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Speaker 7: to capital.

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Speaker 6: And if we don't have.

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Speaker 7: Access to capital for entrepreneurship and homer ownership, we're always

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Speaker 7: going to be had in hand, and so I want

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Speaker 7: to challenge you, we now have at least three black

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Speaker 7: banks that you can do online that are not necessarily

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Speaker 7: in your community, but are global or national as it were,

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Speaker 7: that we strengthen it or at least do a poor

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Speaker 7: of it in black banks. Secondly, and Key would have

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Speaker 7: the data better than I. Over eighty two percent of

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Speaker 7: black businesses are only one generation. They are only one

545
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Speaker 7: generation because the children are not involved or they are

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Speaker 7: not interested. You're going to have to bring up that

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Speaker 7: next generation behind you and tutor and train and mentor

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Speaker 7: them to take on that business so that they'll be

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Speaker 7: able to flash and we can have sustainability over and

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Speaker 7: over and over again. You can't pass down a job,

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Speaker 7: but you can pass down a business.

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Speaker 8: One thing I want to pick on that Andre Andrews

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Speaker 8: that talked about was local procurement.

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Speaker 4: As entrepreneurs, we.

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Speaker 8: Are naturally leaders, and I do not want us to

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Speaker 8: be afraid to engage in civics and politics. We can't

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Speaker 8: sit this out. We can't be voiceless. We can't be

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Speaker 8: afraid that if I say something going to hurt my business,

559
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 8: if you don't say something, it's going to hurt your business.

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Speaker 4: It already has.

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Speaker 8: So in order to get these procurement dollars allocated to

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Speaker 8: black businesses, then we have to hold our elected officials accountable.

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Speaker 8: We have to make sure that city council members understand

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Speaker 8: that this is a want that you have.

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Speaker 4: So when they come knocking.

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Speaker 8: And I hope everybody's engaged, in two years we have

567
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Speaker 8: a critical election coming up. When they come knocking, they're

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Speaker 8: asking for your vote, and in City of Atlanta we

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Speaker 8: have an election coming up this fall. When they ask

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Speaker 8: you for your vote, I think you need to be

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Speaker 8: very clear on the demands that you want for black businesses,

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Speaker 8: and you ask them what their plan is and what

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Speaker 8: is their follow through Because we will not get the

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Speaker 8: change we want from procurement or the allocation of dollars

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Speaker 8: flowing back to black businesses unless we fight for it

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Speaker 8: and advocate for it. We cannot expect that they're just

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Speaker 8: going to do it. They expect us to be afraid

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Speaker 8: to be politically engaged.

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Speaker 5: One of our good friends, y'all know Joy Read, don't you?

580
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Speaker 5: Who we should be supporting by the way, on her

581
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 5: new platform, her new venture to let her previous bosses

582
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Speaker 5: know that we love her, we support her and we

583
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Speaker 5: trusted her, which is why we're following her to this

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Speaker 5: new platform. But Joy Alsen often says when we confront

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Speaker 5: our community and young people and older people alike who

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Speaker 5: say I don't do politics, and.

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Speaker 6: Her response is, well, politics is going to do you.

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Speaker 5: And that's a statement that really resonates with me, having

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Speaker 5: been in local government and run for some of the

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Speaker 5: higher offices in my state. Is that they water the

591
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 5: plants that are growing in their backyard, and then yours

592
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: can die or anything can happen to it because they

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Speaker 5: don't have to esthetically.

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Speaker 6: Look at it. They don't have to appreciate them have

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Speaker 6: to value it.

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Speaker 5: And so for those of us who think that government

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Speaker 5: isn't in service to us, that you elect people and

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Speaker 5: they don't do anything for you, we have to reflect

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Speaker 5: on that quote that power sees nothing without a demand,

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Speaker 5: and a demand means nothing unless you can hold me

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Speaker 5: accountable for not following it, and the only way you

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Speaker 5: do that is throwing me out of office or putting

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Speaker 5: me in.

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Speaker 1: That's true, But we also go ahead to I always

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Speaker 1: bring this up if y'all listen to the podcast, you know,

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Speaker 1: but I would just say that accompanying this point about

607
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: politics is where you get your information, and they traffic

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Speaker 1: intentionally and misinformation and disinformation. So I would just beg

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Speaker 1: the audience share responsibly. Everybody on Instagram and everybody with

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Speaker 1: a podcast. Mike does not a journalist make everybody's information

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Speaker 1: is not equal, So please if you can monitor your

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Speaker 1: news diet and where you're getting.

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Speaker 4: Your information from.

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Speaker 1: I think a part of the reason why we're in

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Speaker 1: this situation right now is because people were being fed

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Speaker 1: on truths and there was a lack of curiosity because

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Speaker 1: we were so addicted to our phones, and the news

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Speaker 1: media summarily ignored a lot of our issues.

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Speaker 4: And this is why we have this.

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Speaker 1: Landscape now with the media landscape that's capitulating to this administration.

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Speaker 4: So that's my own personal plea.

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Speaker 1: But I had a question for the panel and before

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Speaker 1: this audience that's a little more philosophical. We're talking about entrepreneurship,

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Speaker 1: and you touched on this so beautifully, Reverend Bryant when

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Speaker 1: you talked about chase your purpose and not your profit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting here wondering because so many people

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Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship, a lot of people want to become Their

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Speaker 1: goal is to, you know, make millions, And I just

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Speaker 1: wonder the system of capitalism originated on the plantation and

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Speaker 1: if we're trying to build empires and not community, does

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Speaker 1: this system of capitalism serve us. We may not be

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Speaker 1: able to answer that on the but I just want

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Speaker 1: to throw that out to the audience to think about

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Speaker 1: it as we're building businesses and hopefully building community, and

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Speaker 1: if y'all have thoughts on it, I would love to

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Speaker 1: hear it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, that's a lot toffery. You done lived up

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Speaker 7: to your last name. But I think that we have

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Speaker 7: to drive and again this is from pastoral perspective, is

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Speaker 7: drive to make impact. When our number one goal and

641
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Speaker 7: aspiration is just to make money, I think that we

642
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 7: lose our real raison detra why are we here on

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Speaker 7: the earth? And I think that you have to figure

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00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 7: out what is the legacy that you're going to leave

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Speaker 7: behind and what will really be said of you at

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Speaker 7: the end of the day. Ain't nobody gonna remember the

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Speaker 7: shoes you had on or the bag that you had.

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Speaker 7: They really wanted to know how did you make an impact?

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Speaker 7: And America is really in a puberty's state right now.

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Speaker 7: In the words of my late grandma, America smelling itself.

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00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 7: It's smell like outside and really, somebody got to come

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Speaker 7: up with deodorant. So we got to figure out, with

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Speaker 7: all that is taking place in society and in the world,

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Speaker 7: how do we really make this kind of impact. And

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Speaker 7: let me go so far to say is we have

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Speaker 7: to start thinking diasporically. There's no way we will be

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Speaker 7: in this room with twenty thousand Jews in a room

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Speaker 7: and we didn't discuss Israel. There's no way as entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 7: y'all can be here for three days and we don't

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Speaker 7: talk about Haiti, we don't talk about the Sudan, we

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Speaker 7: don't talk about Jamaica or Congo. We don't talk about

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Speaker 7: Ghana now being on the red list.

663
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 6: And so we got to think.

664
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 7: About how do we do global business, how do we

665
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 7: do diasporic business.

666
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 6: And there's a.

667
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 7: Large open palette for us that has been unexplored. China

668
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 7: sees the value in Africa, Are y'all awake? Yeah, they

669
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 7: see the value in Africa in India. So I think

670
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 7: that we've got to look larger than our own borders

671
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 7: and our own parameters to hitch awag and on what

672
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 7: Anne said is that we've got to figure out how

673
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 7: do we monetize on where the issue is. America operates

674
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 7: in cycles. And let me say to you, go to

675
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 7: your own chat, GPT, Google search. Most of America's millionaires

676
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 7: are built during economic crisis.

677
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 6: And so because we are in the middle.

678
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 7: Of a crisis, figure out how you're gonna emerge financially

679
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 7: and how we're gonna emerge as a community.

680
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: And it has to be communally.

681
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: And I think that is the part, like we keep

682
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: trying to beat the white man at his own game.

683
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: That ain't our game. It's not our game. They got

684
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: trust funds, you know what. Let me do another poll.

685
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: How many of y'all got trust funds?

686
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 6: I want to be your friends. It's a whole lot

687
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 6: of y'all. I want to be your friend.

688
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: Maybe, Okay, y'all stand up, because Jamal said, it's a

689
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 3: whole lot of y'all.

690
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 4: Stand up. If you got a trust fund.

691
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 6: They all members of Pastor Bryant Church. If they were,

692
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be on here many.

693
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: But my point is this, and I'm not shaming you

694
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: for having a trust fund.

695
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: That's a great thing.

696
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: But there's not enough of us that come into money

697
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 3: and can try and error on our parents' dime. And

698
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: so what we have to do is build differently, build

699
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: more strategically, build more intentionally. I'm telling y'all we are

700
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: in a crisis. Just because the crisis hasn't knocked on

701
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: your front door yet, does it mean that somebody in

702
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 3: your family, somebody in your neighborhood, somebody at.

703
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: Your church is not being impacted by these things? It

704
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: is time for us.

705
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: Y'all know all the stuff that we're telling you right now,

706
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: You know all the stuff you've heard all day. You

707
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 3: all are here by divine appointment.

708
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: Do not leave without talking to.

709
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: Your neighbor about not only how you can spend with

710
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: their business, but how you can send that business and

711
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: how y'all can scale together.

712
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 4: That is what time it.

713
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 8: Is and what I add to that, and Angel's one

714
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 8: thousand percent correct. You would miss the purpose of this

715
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 8: divine assignment if you don't leave here renew relationships that

716
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 8: you can strategically build with. And we have to be

717
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 8: careful because sometimes we come to these conferences we think

718
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 8: the purpose is the picture with the person that we

719
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 8: always wanted to meet, and so then we missed the

720
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 8: person that's sitting left and Right of us could be

721
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 8: our strategic partner to help us scale and grow our communities.

722
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 8: So I will tell you all about my own entrepreneur journey.

723
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 8: I've been an entrepreneur for ten years and my goal

724
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 8: of launching the Village Market I wanted to free as

725
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 8: many black businesses as possible. Since starting ten years ago,

726
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 8: I've opened retail stores is a Village retail.

727
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: One is at pun City Market. We'll have one.

728
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 8: Opening at the airport in March twenty twenty six.

729
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: We have a location in California.

730
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 8: All black businesses are in my retail stores.

731
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: But not shy that in less.

732
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 8: Than three or four years, we deployed over a million

733
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 8: dollars in grants and have given endless amount of technical

734
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 8: assistance mentorship services to black businesses across the country.

735
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: So what I am sharing that.

736
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 8: If you have a solution, I need you to build

737
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 8: your solution.

738
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: I did not come into this as an entrepreneur.

739
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 8: I'm a farmer but forever educator. I was teaching and

740
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 8: then I worked for the Georgia Department of Education. But

741
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 8: purpose and calling fell upon me and I had to

742
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 8: move and do something. So if there's anyone in here

743
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 8: that feel compelled to move. Doctor Bryan talks about operating

744
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 8: in your lane. I need you to have the confidence

745
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 8: in this season to occupy your lane fully. We need

746
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 8: people who are going to draw our community to solutions.

747
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 8: So don't just open businesses just to say you have one.

748
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 8: We don't have time for that. I want you to

749
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 8: open businesses to economically disrupt and build and model our

750
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 8: communities for the generations to come. But in order to

751
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 8: do that, when Angela said, you cannot and should not

752
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 8: do it alone, the lie of individualism was a lie

753
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 8: of division that if we if I get them to

754
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 8: operate as an individual, then I would disenchant the collective

755
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 8: consciousness of the village mindset. If I disrupt the collective

756
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 8: consciousness of a village mindset, then I disrupt the unity

757
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 8: with It's the compass in the efficenter of black existence.

758
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 5: You know, I appreciate you calling out the big lie

759
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 5: that is often said in America, which is we got

760
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: there because we pulled ourselves into DIVIDI Julie up by

761
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 5: the bootstraps. It's a lie. It's always been a lie.

762
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 5: It's never been the truth. If that's the case, Donald

763
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 5: Trump got alan from his daddy, and that's bootstraps, that's

764
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: and failed in every business. So I guess what I

765
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: would say is is I think it's time out for

766
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 5: just wanting to see a new black business open up

767
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: that replicates the same attitude, traditions, and practices of white supremacy,

768
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 5: because that's death to our community. I would much prefer Angela.

769
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: You said that we won't win at their You know,

770
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: UH won't win this game playing the way.

771
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 4: We're not gonna win the white man's game.

772
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: So put another way, you'll never ever destroy Master's house

773
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: using Master's tools because his house was not built to

774
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 5: be destroyed, which means we have to pilot some new tools,

775
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 5: some new thinking and do this thing differently.

776
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 6: And the collective.

777
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 5: You're not gonna hear a lot of communities talk about

778
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: the collective when they're talking about building strong buildings, businesses, families.

779
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 5: But it's been so essential back to the Motherland of

780
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 5: how it is we as a community have held each

781
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 5: other and where prosperity comes from and comes through, and

782
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 5: it's been through our collective.

783
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: And don't let anybody a lot of us to say that.

784
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 5: We can't get there together, that there's only room enough

785
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: for only one of us in this room because there

786
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 5: are too many generations passer where we believe that lie

787
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: in the black community, that there's room at the top,

788
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 5: but the space is limited for the few of us

789
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 5: that are here. Yet yet their community never limits their

790
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 5: children and their children's children and their children's children's children

791
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: from being at the boardroom table.

792
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 6: So we have to dismiss that lot.

793
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: I just want to echo that really quickly because I

794
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: think that's so important since there are so many business

795
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: owners in the room, and Angela has pointed this out

796
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: and called you all out, I truly have a testimony

797
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: about that. When it comes to sharing and information sharing opportunity,

798
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: we have a collective, a girlfriend group.

799
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: We're all in media. We share.

800
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: If somebody books Angela to speak somewhere, she gonna tell

801
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: us how much they paying her what she asked for.

802
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: We share that information. We're not competitors. And the reason

803
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: why I will tell you because I want everyone in

804
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: my life around me to be doing something dope. And

805
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: the reason why is because when I fall, they gonna

806
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: be in a position to catch me. So it's never

807
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: looking at somebody like why they get what I wanted

808
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: or what they didn't do And there came a time

809
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: in my life when I did fall and Angela caught me,

810
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: Joy Reid caught me, Sunny Howson on the View caught me.

811
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 4: Who else?

812
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Brittany Pagnett Cunningham called me Latasha Brown right here in

813
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Atlanta with black voters matter caught me. And so I

814
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: just want to encourage you, share information, share opportunity, position

815
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: every one in your life around you to do something

816
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: dope so they can catch you. But also that is

817
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: that collective consciousness that we collectively.

818
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: Build, which really quick.

819
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: I do want to make a distinction that I think

820
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 3: is important to if the community that Tiff is talking about.

821
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: We will talk about transactions as a part of being

822
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: in community and as a part of being in that

823
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: collective consciousness. But we also really genuinely love each other.

824
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: We actually really are connected. Too many of us have

825
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: been trained, again by the white Man, to go into

826
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: spaces you're looking at somebody's name tag before you're even

827
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: making eye contact. You're looking to see where they work

828
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: and what they can do for you, before you even

829
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: ask them how their day is going. That is not

830
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 3: how we are wired as a people. We love one

831
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: another when we normally go into our grandmother's house. The

832
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: first thing our grandmother asks us is baby, are you hungry?

833
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: Those are the kinds of communities in my line, Oh okay,

834
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: These are the kind of communities that we build. We

835
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: don't come up to people asking what we can extract

836
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: from you? Again, that is it to all white man.

837
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: I don't want us to move that way.

838
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, this relationship that you all just describe, it only

839
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 8: functions properly because you're not operating in the mindset of scarcity.

840
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 8: This relationship that we're talking about and that they're talking about,

841
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 8: and I can name some in my own life. The

842
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 8: only reason why it's okay for Angela to see TIF

843
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 8: win is because Angela understand if tif wind, she won also.

844
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: And that is a mindset shift with.

845
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 8: How we're going to be in community, in community with

846
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 8: each other. There is a notion that there is not

847
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 8: enough for all of us.

848
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: Another lie.

849
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 8: There is abundance that that overflow with me, all of

850
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 8: us if we assimilate and move ourselves in a position.

851
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: Of that abundance.

852
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: But it is.

853
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 8: Highly contingent upon us divorcing the mindset of scarcity. You

854
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 8: can't be afraid just because your friend got put on

855
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 8: and you didn't that that was the last opportunity. It's

856
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 8: only making room for two, three, four more. It depends

857
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 8: on your mindset when you get there. So we and

858
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 8: when Andrews talked about the mindset, and I think Tim

859
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 8: talked about this as well, we cannot adopt or adapt

860
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 8: any harmful practices that have harmed our community. So if

861
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 8: you're that leader now, and this is just a level

862
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 8: of love and accountability self assessment that we all have

863
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 8: to do. If there is something inside of your spirit

864
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 8: now that you're only thinking about your own survival, and

865
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 8: even if you're thinking about hiring people but you don't

866
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 8: want to pay them a livable age. You want to

867
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 8: hire people, but you don't want to have mental health

868
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 8: days so they can have something to give to your company.

869
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 4: When they come back.

870
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 8: Then we're adopting the practices that have disenfranchised our communities.

871
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 8: So we have to be different operators, different leaders. But

872
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 8: it's going to take a resurrection of a spirit of

873
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 8: being communal to get there.

874
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: We are we gonna treat this like church.

875
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: Since it's tomorrow, I think you might gonna walk, You

876
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: might gonna walk out of here with a few more members,

877
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 3: so he have jam clothes and then we got a

878
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: little plug. But we appreciate you all.

879
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 6: Go ahead, no, I'm grateful real quick. Would everybody just

880
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 6: lift up that hand.

881
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 7: I would just want to speak a blessing over your business.

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Speaker 6: Come on, lift that hand up high.

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Speaker 7: I pray that the Lord will bless you so you

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Speaker 7: are never empty handed. I pray that God will get

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Speaker 7: everything in your hand that you need to build to

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Speaker 7: the next level. I pray that your hand will always

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Speaker 7: be open to receive instruction and correction. I pray that

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Speaker 7: God will give strength to your hand so you can

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Speaker 7: pull somebody up. And I pray that God will use

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Speaker 7: your hand where you'll never have to close your fists

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Speaker 7: because somebody else will fight for you.

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Speaker 6: Amen.

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Speaker 3: But also if you put that fist stuff because you're

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Speaker 3: using some different tools, that's all right too.

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Speaker 4: All right, we appreciate you'all. This is Native Lampid.

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Speaker 3: Thanks again to doctor Key Helmet, Reverend doctor Jamal Bryant,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Gilliam, Tiffany Christ. I'm angela rober Native Lampid.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to all, ride y'all, oh the last morning plea.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives. Attentional with the info

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Speaker 2: and all of the latest roy Gilum and cross connected

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Speaker 2: to the statements that you leave on our sociows. Thank

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Speaker 2: you sincerely for the patients reason for your choice is cleared.

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Speaker 2: So grateful it took the execute rolls. Thank you for serve,

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Speaker 2: defend and protect the truth. Even in paint.

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Speaker 6: We walkome home to all.

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