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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Christy Scales, Ashmores and Jess and ours here

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Speaker 2: with you on this Tuesday. We're Tuesday or Wednesday, Guys,

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Speaker 2: We're Tuesday, Tuesday afternoon. Had a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: moment there here at the beautiful beautiful Star in Frisco

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Speaker 2: where it is hot outside. Guys, it says it's ninety

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Speaker 2: three It does not feel like it's ninety three outside.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been outside. It's officially fall allegedly,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. The only thing Phil and Fall like

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Speaker 2: is the football season is here. But other than that,

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Speaker 2: we are going to discuss we left off yesterday. What

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Speaker 2: the coordinators and head coach Mike McCarthy. We're going to

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Speaker 2: say a post loss to the Arizona Cardinals. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: break that down for one last day before we officially

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Speaker 2: turned the page here on the podcast and we start

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Speaker 2: looking into the Week four matchup against the Patriots. A

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about, so let's start with the offense. Aisha, yesterday,

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Speaker 2: you had a fantastic question to Mike McCarthy which went

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Speaker 2: noted on Twitter, and I'm glad it did because it

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Speaker 2: was very insightful and it just shows you always have

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Speaker 2: football smarts. So hello to anybody that didn't notice that.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that because you asked him specifically about

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Speaker 2: the tight end group and a big conversation this week

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Speaker 2: is red zone lack of production and not capitalizing when

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Speaker 2: you're in the red zone. When the Cowboys in the

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Speaker 2: red zone, they can't find the end zone. So how

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Speaker 2: did the tight ends tie into that? Asha? What have

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Speaker 2: you noticed? You went back, you watched the film and

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Speaker 2: you have key points that can help this team excel

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Speaker 2: in what they need to work on.

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Speaker 3: What are they So my question was, you know, Coach,

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Speaker 3: there's you know in the West Coast system, the vertical

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Speaker 3: much of the intermediate and short field yardist to just

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Speaker 3: move down the field. You're trying to you know, control

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Speaker 3: the clock, do all that stuff. But you know, having

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Speaker 3: the vertical threat really, to me, it opens up so

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Speaker 3: much of what you want to do because defenses right

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Speaker 3: now they're playing tight. They're betting on the fact that

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Speaker 3: you're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Short passes and stuff.

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Speaker 3: So he mentioned the word, you know, he said, they're

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Speaker 3: playing shell defense, and so I was like, when you

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Speaker 3: think of shell, you think of two high safeties, you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of soft coverage or whatever. But in doing some

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Speaker 3: digging and learning, like shell can mean a number of things.

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Speaker 3: So he also went on to talk about quarters and

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Speaker 3: say that they're playing quarters defense and the purpose of

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Speaker 3: quarters defense is to take away deep shots. What happens

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Speaker 3: is that you have two safeties that have a quarter

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Speaker 3: the defense the safety does, and then they have their

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Speaker 3: responsibility is there's deep they have a deep zone responsibility.

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Speaker 3: So and then the corners, the corners have the flat

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Speaker 3: the purpose of that is to take away the middle

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Speaker 3: why aren't we really attacking the middle of the field

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Speaker 3: consistently with with a lot of teams playing cover four,

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Speaker 3: my point was was, you know what schematically can you

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Speaker 3: get behind the linebackers, which we seen we saw last

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Speaker 3: week with Ceedee Lamb with the flat slat, which is

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Speaker 3: you're just letting him slip behind those linebackers that are

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Speaker 3: Gallup be so effective this week with slants because it's there.

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Speaker 3: But my concern again is the fact that defenses are

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Speaker 3: And so I mean, and again we thought that, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, because when you're talking about like using the

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Speaker 4: fans they picture Jason Witten on that scene route right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: on the scene. But again it's how they're playing the coverage,

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Speaker 4: quarters and things, so you don't want to force it.

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Speaker 4: And so there's a thing there's the old, tried but true.

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Speaker 4: You know, you take what the defense gives you. Well,

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Speaker 4: it's like, well, why are you taking what the defense

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Speaker 4: the dominant and you know you give it to them.

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Speaker 4: Well no, I mean, the coverage dictates where the ball

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Speaker 4: and you don't want to do that. The other thing

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Speaker 4: you really have to have this precision passing and fitting

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Speaker 4: the ball in there. You're thinking of a slant route

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Speaker 4: or you're thinking of some out route, and the quarterback

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Speaker 4: puts the ball right there because there's a defensive back

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Speaker 4: it's putting it over the linebacker, but in front. And

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Speaker 4: so those those are difficult throws and you got to

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Speaker 4: if that that linebacker doesn't bite on the play action,

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Speaker 4: you know, the fake hand off and react and you

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Speaker 4: know just that quarter second of them, you know, delaying

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Speaker 4: their drop into coverage. It's it's all interconnected and so

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Speaker 4: you you really everybody has to play their part, whether

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Speaker 4: or you really got to sell that. So it goes

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Speaker 4: to what we've been talking about and what the coaches

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Speaker 4: and players have been talking about since early in the

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Speaker 4: off season. Knowing your why, your purpose, what is what

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Speaker 4: is your why on this play?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be fair, I think in this game specifically,

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Speaker 2: At practice, Micha McCarthy said that yesterday, and I don't

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Speaker 2: It was just look and his defense was outsmarting them

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Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. And that's just kind of

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Speaker 2: what it came down to. As far as the red

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Speaker 2: this after Zeke was released of who is the big

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Speaker 2: red zone guy for the Cowboys now, because it was Zeke? Right,

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Speaker 2: And when Zeke was leading in red zone percentage scoring

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Speaker 2: last year. That's a big loss, right, And so yes,

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys are getting to the red zone, and I

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Speaker 2: think that can't be overlooked either. Is that's the hard part.

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Speaker 2: Shotenheimer said that yesterday. Hardest part is getting there to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean another thing that you're seeing in

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Speaker 3: the red zone is you had the three red zone

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Speaker 3: penalties that were huge, but these and that's a big

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Speaker 3: part of it, is that those penalties are putting them

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Speaker 3: in unfavorable situations when they're in second in goal, but

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Speaker 3: it's at the fifteen or second, heir third and goal

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Speaker 3: and you're at the ten or something like, you're they

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Speaker 3: really I'm really looking for them to get closer to

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Speaker 3: up your playbook a whole bunch. Shotenheimer talked about that

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Speaker 3: as well. The usage of the whole field too, is

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Speaker 3: something that I've been looking at because when you talk

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Speaker 3: about again, when you start talking about them playing quarters

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Speaker 3: and stuff, is that it takes away you know, we'll

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Speaker 3: middle of the field opened. It takes away part of

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Speaker 3: the field, but it's like the offense is taking it

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Speaker 3: you look, there's opportunities to attack the left side of

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Speaker 3: the red zone, stuff getting backed up is hurting them

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Speaker 3: and staying ahead of the sticks, you know, Brian Schottenheimer

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Speaker 3: mentioned that he mentioned that as well, But I want

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Speaker 3: to say that Arizona, you mentioned it.

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Speaker 4: They were very disciplined. They played the.

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Speaker 2: Stop saying that about them. They poured gatorade.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was his first victory as a head coach. So

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Speaker 4: that's why they.

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Speaker 2: Did in the Dallas Cowboys. If you want to make

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Speaker 2: a statement that you're not ranked thirty two among thirty

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Speaker 2: two NFL teams, this was the team to be That's fair.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't have mattered, right because now they can go on,

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Speaker 2: they can lose to the forty nine ers and be like, well,

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Speaker 2: we are going to beat the cat.

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Speaker 4: You want him to beat the forty nine ers because

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Speaker 4: if things go to form a lot of people think

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Speaker 4: if preseason predictions are correct, Cowboys, Eagles and forty nine ers,

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Speaker 4: so a lot of people think are the tops of

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Speaker 4: the NFC. But one other thing that Schottenheimer said about

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Speaker 4: the red zone offense is that a big part of

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Speaker 4: it is scrambles. Now, we did see dak on Sunday

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Speaker 4: in Arizona. He had the big play that was not

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Speaker 4: and then he broke the pocket and what a great

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Speaker 4: play by him, great effort and execution. Believe he got

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Speaker 4: continue that drive going down later they did stall in

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Speaker 4: the red zone, but Schottenheimer mentioned that yesterday as offensive

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Speaker 4: coordinator during his press conference that yeah, we got we

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Speaker 4: got to remember you know everyone, Hey, that's a big

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Speaker 4: part of it. And you know, we say that Dak

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Speaker 4: hasn't run as much as he did earlier in his

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Speaker 4: career before he broke the ankle, obviously, but wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: surprised to see, you know, have him maybe do some

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Speaker 4: more keepers.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you do you feel like

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Speaker 2: because even after the game, Dak took accountability to say,

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Speaker 2: I need to use my legs more. I need to

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Speaker 2: be more a little bit more mobile. Is that something

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Speaker 2: you're going to you expect to see out of Dak

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Speaker 2: is to be a little more mobile, specifically in the

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Speaker 2: they're trying to drive up to it. Do you see

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Speaker 2: him being a little more mobile?

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Speaker 3: This is one thing I like about him as a

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Speaker 4: this was from McCarthy's press conference yesterday, not doing seven

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Speaker 4: loved Rico Dowdell. It's just the injuries that caught him

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Speaker 4: the first few years here in Dallas. And it was

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Speaker 4: noted by coach McCarthy yesterday about the tough running, not

435
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Speaker 4: just Rico, but Tony and even Jake Ferguson slipping a

436
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Speaker 4: couple of tackle Ceedee Lamb. Coach McCarthy said, he said,

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Speaker 4: twenty eight or twenty nine. We'll go with twenty nine

438
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 4: because it sounds better. Broken tackles was some tougher and

439
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 4: let me tell you from field level these and hey,

440
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 4: same thing goes for James Connor with the Cardinals offense.

441
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: These were hard earned yards. Okay, there was some hitting

442
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Speaker 4: going on and so, but the ability to take a

443
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Speaker 4: one yard run or a zero yard run and yet

444
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 4: still go past that first contact or even second contact.

445
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Speaker 4: Not all great runs go for fifteen to twenty plus yards.

446
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Speaker 4: Some of the better runs are ones where you get

447
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Speaker 4: three or four off of something that should be zero

448
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Speaker 4: or minus one. And it was some tough, tough, tough sledding.

449
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Speaker 4: But Rico and Tony. I mean, if we had just said, oh,

450
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Speaker 4: you're going to have one hundred and eighty rushing yards

451
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Speaker 4: in the game for the Cowboys, you'd say, oh, yeah,

452
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Speaker 4: sign me up for that every day. But I was

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Speaker 4: happy for Rico, just like we said yesterday, for him

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Speaker 4: to get his first career touchdown. Ironically it came on

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Speaker 4: to pass instead of a run, but yeah, he's he's

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Speaker 4: showing his value to the team this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I like the usage of Rico Daddle

458
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Speaker 3: to start the screen game has been so effective to

459
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Speaker 3: start the season, and I think that that's important. Rico

460
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Speaker 3: Daddo's gotten after it with it, Tony's gotten after it

461
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Speaker 3: with it, Duce Vaughan has gotten after it with it.

462
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Speaker 3: But I really I have noticed that Rico does come

463
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Speaker 3: in in that fourth quarter and he's he's bruising, like

464
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Speaker 3: I'm sure that he's exhausting for some of those those

465
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Speaker 3: defenders that have been dealing with kind of chasing Tony

466
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Speaker 3: and trying to deal with his speed. But I like

467
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Speaker 3: the one two punch right now. I will say that

468
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Speaker 3: with Tony Pollard, I think he ran we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 3: He ran effectively through the.

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Speaker 4: Tackles, he has some physical play.

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Speaker 3: Miss would love to see some more receiver Tony and

473
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Speaker 3: using him still as even though he is a running

474
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Speaker 3: back and he's your number one running back. It would

475
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Speaker 3: be nice to see him do some of that will

476
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Speaker 3: route stuff that we've seen him do, come out the

477
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Speaker 3: backfield as a passer, because that's also gonna help with

478
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Speaker 3: what we were just talking about with these dbs playing

479
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: up so close and on how they're acting, this is

480
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Speaker 3: gonna that can open up some things too, also for

481
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Speaker 3: you in the passing game. So I was looking at

482
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Speaker 3: that like, love how they've been using Tony. It's been effective.

483
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: He's been effective, Rico's been effective. It's just again when

484
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Speaker 3: you get in that red area, things get a lot

485
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: tighter and then you're having the penalties as well.

486
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Speaker 4: So loved how they use Hunter Liftkey this week too.

487
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Speaker 4: He's doing some.

488
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Speaker 3: Lead blocking stuff and he's becoming far more and more

489
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Speaker 3: effective every week as a as a blocker and am

490
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Speaker 3: using him as a fullback got them in some passing situations.

491
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Speaker 3: So the usage of the running backs all in all,

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Speaker 3: to answer your question, I think has been creative it's

493
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Speaker 3: been and it seems balanced right now. Besides the fact,

494
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit more Rico.

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Speaker 4: Anybody well with the usage you because just to your

496
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Speaker 4: point what you were saying about, how you know how

497
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: much Tony has gotten the ball these past couple of weeks.

498
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Speaker 4: He ended up with twenty six touches on Sunday if

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Speaker 4: you combine the rushing and receiving, and that's thirty two

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Speaker 4: the week before. That's a lot, you know, for a

501
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Speaker 4: guy who in his career, you know, shared the load

502
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Speaker 4: with Zeke coming into this year. And so I think

503
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting because even when we were

504
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: talking about lineman and giving these young linemen more practice

505
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: time during the week, I think that that Tony's going

506
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: to be pulled back. I think some of these practices,

507
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: these Wednesday and some of these Thursday practices just to

508
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: kind of make sure that you know, they that's why

509
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 4: they have those trackers, the GPS stuff. And I wouldn't

510
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Speaker 4: be surprised if the threshold is maybe down a little

511
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Speaker 4: bit because you don't want to use Tony up. We're

512
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Speaker 4: only three games.

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Speaker 2: In, yeah, and you need him, you get him all.

514
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and That's why it's so great that that Rico

515
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Speaker 4: is showing his value.

516
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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for Rico.

517
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Speaker 4: Oh he's a good day, good day. He's a nice family.

518
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: Oh he's so He's so great and he's such a

519
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: quiet guy. But his explosiveness speaks for itself. I mean,

520
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: I started talking to Rico more this off season after

521
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Speaker 2: I want to say it was OTAs I saw him

522
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh wow, I just we hadn't

523
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: seen Rico in so long, and that was my first

524
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: time seeing him in person, you know, at a practice

525
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: capacity like that, and he just instantly stood out to me,

526
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: Minnie camp Otia's So I went and I introduced myself

527
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: and I talked to him, and I just told him,

528
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: you look really good, you know, And he, you know,

529
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: started talking to me a little bit more and more

530
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: every week because he doesn't open up right away.

531
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's kind of a quiet guy. He was on

532
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: IR last year, so people aren't you know, they're not

533
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: bothering him.

534
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: I was a little weird of dot. He's like, why

535
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: is she talking to me? So we started talking more

536
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: and more, and then there was an event here in

537
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: Dallas called sports Con and he appeared there and he

538
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: was doing he was doing pictures, autographs with fans, and

539
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: then he did some stuff on media row and that's

540
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: when I caught up with him. I was walking around

541
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: with him, I was talking to him, and that was

542
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 2: really when we clicked because he had told me how

543
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: he spent his weeks off, his six weeks off. It

544
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: was after a rookie mini camp OTAs that that part

545
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: of the season, and then he told me he went

546
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: on a cruise with his family and he said, I

547
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: didn't realize I was afraid of water until that cruise. Like,

548
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of the wrong time to figure that out, man.

549
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: So Ever, since that, I go check on him in

550
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: the locker room, see how he's doing, see how he's feeling.

551
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: And it was funny because I want to say it

552
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: was after the Giants game. I told him, when's your

553
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: touchdown coming? He said, hopefully soon. I said, yeah, I'll

554
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: be waiting for it and be right here to talk

555
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: to you when it happens. So in the following week

556
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: told him the same thing. And so this week, I'm

557
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: very excited to go in the locker room and be like, look,

558
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I predicted this but he's he is

559
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: such a hard worker. He was overlooked for so long

560
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: for how hard he works. Yes, injury has overshadowed his

561
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: productivity during his time here. But he's doing everything in

562
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: his power to stay healthy, and he has talked about

563
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: that with me multiple times. He's changed how he eats,

564
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: he changes how he handles post workouts and post practice

565
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: and how he's taking care of his body. So oh,

566
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: that is my Rico soapbox for the day. But Christy,

567
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about something because I'm

568
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: looking back at the playlog or at the playlist from

569
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: yesterday or oh my goodness from sunday, and there's four

570
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: fifty eight left in the game. This is Cowboys. The

571
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys offense, last drive, essentially, last chance to get the

572
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: points on the board. There was h let's see one run,

573
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: Tony Pollared up the middle for five yards, no huddle,

574
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: by the way, and then they go no huddle again, Tony,

575
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard up the middle for six yards, and then

576
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: you're on the Arizona five. At this point, shotgun, Tony

577
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: Pollared up the middle negative two yards and then again

578
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard left tackle, tackled by Arizona for one yard.

579
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: At that point you're on the Arizona six. And then

580
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: the interception happens in the end zone as Dak tries

581
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: to make a pass to Brandon Cooks. What do you

582
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: think of the play calling there to run the ball

583
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: with four minutes left in potentially what you know, could

584
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: be your last shot.

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00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: I thank everyone from the sideline up in the Cowboys

586
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: radio booths, everybody watching on TV, all the Cowboy fans

587
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: that at State Farm Stadium.

588
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Why are you running the ball?

589
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: O'clock is running? Well? Mike McCarthy when asked about it yesterday,

590
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: he admits, I should have been more aggressive there, so

591
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: you know, hey, that he felt like with the timeouts

592
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: that he had that they'd be able to get the

593
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: ball in and then still have time to you know,

594
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: get done what they need to do. But in hindsight,

595
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: Mike agrees, you know, should have been more aggressive. Should

596
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: they have thrown on the second down or the third

597
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: down play? Well, of course everything's in is twenty twenty

598
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: and in high in sight, but coaches don't always admit that.

599
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: But but Mike, Mike did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was running the ball because they

601
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: was giving him.

602
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: It goes back to what we said, they're giving it.

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Speaker 3: To you, you know, And honestly, I mean I wasn't

604
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: a huge fan of it, sublt.

605
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: They had time.

606
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: There was time. Yeah, there's not the wrong answer.

607
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: When they made the past, when they made the pass

608
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: to the to the end zone, at that point, they

609
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: did have enough time if they wanted to go for

610
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Speaker 3: two or whatever if they had scored.

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00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, at that point there was three or three

612
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Speaker 2: h five left when the past was made.

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Speaker 3: So I wasn't Personally, I wasn't mad. I wasn't super.

614
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Upset about it, and especially.

615
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Speaker 3: Given just how aggressive their DB's have been playing and

616
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: biting on everything and stuff. I was like, oh, that

617
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Speaker 3: that makes sense.

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00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta go fast, but it makes sense.

619
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Speaker 2: But it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we can be critical of it, yeah,

621
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Speaker 3: like you would have wanted him to pass there or whatever.

622
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: I just I don't want them.

623
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Speaker 4: To be scared. I also care for Yeah.

624
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: But I also feel like in a normal situation to

625
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: where maybe if the defense was playing like you know,

626
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: they're capable of playing like they played the first two

627
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: games of the season. It's obviously not their best showing

628
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: you don't want Arizona to have the ball for a

629
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: long period of time too at that point, knowing kind

630
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: of where things were with the defense throughout the rest

631
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: of the game. So I can understand it from that

632
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: perspective of you run the ball to kind of kill

633
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: time because you don't want the Cardinals to have the back.

634
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: It was a two possession game, so you needed to scores,

635
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully as quickly as you can.

636
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Speaker 2: The thing about it, though, it's one of those things,

637
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: if it worked, it would have been great. We wouldn't

638
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: be talking about it if it worked.

639
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: Ernie Zampezi the great play caller for one of the

640
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: greatest in NFL history, and spent time in the nineties,

641
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 4: you know, winning Super Bowls as the coordinator for the Cowboys,

642
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: and Ernie always says, you know how you define a

643
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: good play call? It works there.

644
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: Period. Well, let's take our next break. When we talk back,

645
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna when we come back, we are going to

646
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: talk about the Cowboys defense a little bit before we

647
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: officially turn the page from this loss and move on

648
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Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit of defense before we officially

677
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Speaker 2: close the books on this loss that I think everybody

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Speaker 2: is ready to just kind of turn the page on

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Speaker 2: this week A Yasha, you went, Oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 2: love you. You went back, you watched things. Biggest takeaway from

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense obviously run defense. We know we've talked

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Speaker 2: about that. We understand that that was an issue, but again,

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Speaker 2: a very uncharacteristic game. And I think that is the

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Speaker 2: word that describes it the best. By them, What did

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Speaker 2: you get out of it?

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Speaker 3: They just they just gotta play sound football, Like it

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Speaker 3: sounds really simple, but there were just so many guys

688
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Speaker 3: like doing other people's jobs and not filling gaps, like

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Speaker 3: they didn't tackle super well. And I just think, like

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Speaker 3: I said, Jaron Kurs said it last. He said it

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Speaker 3: in his postgame interview. He said their will was stronger

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Speaker 3: than ours, and in a lot of instances it was

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Speaker 3: like that they were not the more physical team on

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Speaker 3: that side of the ball, and that they it just

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Speaker 3: never came to fruition for them. I will say that

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Speaker 3: in the second half there did seem like there were

697
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Speaker 3: some adjustments made. They came out there, they got the

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Speaker 3: stop at first of the third quarter, then to Kavante Turpin,

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Speaker 3: that's that big return and it gets called back, but

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Speaker 3: they I mean, I think Arizona scored on that big

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Speaker 3: play and that was it for them, and that in

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Speaker 3: that half. So they buckled down and they played better ball.

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Speaker 3: But there were times that there were times that they

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Speaker 3: did play straight up and they looked like the better team,

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Speaker 3: but it just was I don't know, man, it was

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Speaker 3: just it was it was weird. You had guys like

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Speaker 3: j Ron Curse like getting turned around, and it's just

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Speaker 3: it just never felt like they It just never felt

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Speaker 3: like they were they were mentally in it, and I

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Speaker 3: just never I don't know if I've ever seen them

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Speaker 3: play that undisciplined in that way as far as their assignment.

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Speaker 3: So I think they'll pick it up turn around. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think they'll Oh yeah, I think they'll pick it up.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quinn used his verbage yesterday really spoke to I know,

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Speaker 3: me and Jesse. He said, it hurt him, you know,

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Speaker 3: just how things came to fruition, and but I do

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Speaker 3: want to say that I do believe and it just

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Speaker 3: is what it is. And I know that everyone's like,

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Speaker 3: next man up. Dan Quinn alluded to this and everything.

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Speaker 3: I do think that emotionally they were that there was

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Speaker 3: a rough emotional week for these guys, especially at the

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Speaker 3: end of the week. So we'll see, give them some

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Speaker 3: time left them, let them regroup and go out there

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Speaker 3: and play, you know, play their ball, play the play

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Speaker 3: ball the way they're supposed to. Because this wasn't this

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Speaker 3: wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I love what dan Quinn said, and it

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Speaker 4: goes to what you said, this wasn't characteristic of the cowboys,

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Speaker 4: and like you say, that's what really hurt him. He

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Speaker 4: he said, what really hit me, like five fingers across

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Speaker 4: the face, was you guys didn't look like your defense right.

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Speaker 4: They weren't playing fast they you know. And he also

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Speaker 4: noted we'll grow from this, I have no doubt at all.

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Speaker 4: But he said it was misfitting. They weren't in their

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Speaker 4: fits right, and so that's the before you can make that.

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Speaker 4: You got to be in the right place. You got

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Speaker 4: to you got to be in the gap right. You

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Speaker 4: got to handle the backside if they and so if

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Speaker 4: you're not alignment assignment, if you're not, if you're not

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Speaker 4: in your fits, then not only are you not going

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Speaker 4: to make the play, but they're gonna they're gonna get

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Speaker 4: through and into the you know, uh second part, and

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Speaker 4: then through your defensive backfield. So yeah, and he also

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Speaker 4: said what really hurt us was the five big runs

746
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Speaker 4: that he says the explosives in the first half, they

747
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Speaker 4: weren't due to physicality. They were due to job assignments.

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Speaker 4: Not in your fit, not in the gap right, not

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Speaker 4: doing your job. And the one other thing I want

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Speaker 4: to say is because on that one long pass play

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Speaker 4: to Wilson, I believe it was and we saw Malik

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Speaker 4: hooker chasing and stuff, and so Wilson was on it,

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Speaker 4: like in the left slot, gets release, no one carries him,

754
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Speaker 4: he ends up getting making the catch across the field

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Speaker 4: left to right, and MALIEK. Cooker chases him down and

756
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Speaker 4: saves the touchdown. But huge play, And he said that

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Speaker 4: that was not Hooker. It was good for Malie Cooker

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Speaker 4: just to even catch him, to make the the tackle

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Speaker 4: to save the touchdown. But just because it's the guy

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Speaker 4: that's chasen to make it doesn't mean that that was

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Speaker 4: his guy. So he you know, he's not going to

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Speaker 4: call out what specifically happened on the play, but I

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Speaker 4: know a lot of us assume, oh weak, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: even his guy. I also liked, yeah, yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: a lack of communication. You're exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And I also liked that Dan was quick to you

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Speaker 2: mentioned that the Cowboys only missed six tackles during this game.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't a bad tackling game. It just wasn't

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Speaker 2: their best game.

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Speaker 4: If you're if you're not in your fit to make

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Speaker 4: the tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. Yeah you can't.

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Speaker 3: Defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Defensive line, you know.

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Speaker 3: Square square your feet. Yeah, player assignment, guys, you know,

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Speaker 3: play for your brother. Because there was a lot of uh,

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Speaker 3: it was a lot of guys. They talked about it

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Speaker 3: last year, you know, earning the earning the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: rush the passer and so and so I really did

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Speaker 3: think that a lot of guys were getting a field.

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Speaker 3: They were really I mean even the nose tackles, even

782
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Speaker 3: like the dts were just so fast off the ball.

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Speaker 3: Just looking for them to be a little bit more

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Speaker 3: patient and and yeah, and yes.

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Speaker 4: We had OsO Diggi Zoo on last night on the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys Hour, the Miller like Cowboys Hour, and you know

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Speaker 4: he was he was straight up with yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: but and we were, you know, we shared some of

789
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Speaker 4: the things that because it was right after dan Quinn's

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Speaker 4: post press conference Monday afternoon press conference, and so a

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Speaker 4: lot of the things that he told the media are

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Speaker 4: basically the same things that he's you know, the players

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Speaker 4: they all know, yeah, you know, and Osa said basically

794
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Speaker 4: the same things. Hey, we're going to grow from this.

795
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Speaker 4: We make the corrections and you can't get too high

796
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Speaker 4: or too you know a lot of them are just

797
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Speaker 4: kind of the same maxims and truisms that you hear

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Speaker 4: week to week. But but no, I mean, you're right,

799
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Speaker 4: it's personal.

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Speaker 3: It's personal because these guys when they because they love

801
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Speaker 3: them some dan Quinn, they play for him, yep.

802
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Speaker 4: And to hear for each other, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: And for them to say to know he was that

804
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Speaker 3: disappointed in their performance, I think it makes a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: And that's why go ahead.

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Speaker 2: And I also think though he wasn't just dissipate pointed

807
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Speaker 2: in their performance, he was disappointed in his performance as

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Speaker 2: a coach as well, tracking because he also took accountability

809
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Speaker 2: for his part in the loss. So that's another thing

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Speaker 2: that I appreciate about Dan Quinn is he's not sitting

811
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Speaker 2: there saying it was all your fault. Oh, it was

812
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Speaker 2: all your fault. Don know. He's not pointing fingers, he's

813
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Speaker 2: not throwing anybody under the bus. He first thing he

814
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Speaker 2: said was I take accountability for what I did wrong

815
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Speaker 2: as a coach and setting my guys up to not

816
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Speaker 2: be you know, prepared enough. And that went across the

817
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Speaker 2: board yesterday anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, okay, I tried.

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Speaker 2: It's okay. If anything that you can take away from

820
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Speaker 2: yesterday's coordinator and coordinator press conferences and then Micha McCarthy

821
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Speaker 2: as they all took accountability. There was not one that

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Speaker 2: didn't take accountability for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I love what John Fossil said. John Fossil

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Speaker 4: the special teams coordinator who put the little Yorkie in the.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: So in regards to the sixty two yard field goal

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Speaker 4: that Matt Prater hit at, which I mean, when you

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Speaker 4: have to kick the ball that far, it's going to

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Speaker 4: be a very low trajectory. I can tell yeah, I've

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Speaker 4: in twenty five years on the sideline, I've never seen

831
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Speaker 4: one that low. Look, I don't think it ever got

832
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Speaker 4: like eighteen to twenty feet off the ground. Seriously, the

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Speaker 4: crossbars ten feet up, all right, and that ball was fair.

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Speaker 4: It didn't have much art art to it, right, it was.

835
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Speaker 4: It was pretty much a line drive. But here's the thing.

836
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Speaker 4: When field goal kickers have to do longer attempts, then

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Speaker 4: it has to be more line drive. They have to

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Speaker 4: get more strength behind it. It's not going to be

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Speaker 4: some high arching kick. Well that's when that's when it's

840
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Speaker 4: ripe for blocks, right, So get your hands up. And

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Speaker 4: so one of the things that John Fossil said was

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Speaker 4: he wished that he had done a different call on that.

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Speaker 4: He says, I could have made a call where I

844
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Speaker 4: had one more hand up there, and I wish I

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Speaker 4: had I had made that call. Now would it have

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Speaker 4: resulted in a block. Well, we'll never know. But I

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Speaker 4: love that Bones speaks to the media, you know that

848
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Speaker 4: we get to hear special teams as well as offense

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Speaker 4: and defense, and he's the most honest, you know, free

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Speaker 4: flowing guy out there. He's so much fun to listen to.

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Speaker 4: But when you talk about accountabilities, like, man, I wish

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Speaker 4: I just I wish I had that callback and what

853
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Speaker 4: if I would have done this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now that everyone is taking accountability, yeah, apply

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Speaker 3: it apple, see you adjust. I mean I thoroughly enjoyed,

856
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, hearing them own up to some of the mistakes.

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Speaker 3: It's it's always rewarding for someone like me, especially that

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Speaker 3: because I'm still learning to go in there and be

859
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: able to speak to them and they reassure me in

860
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Speaker 3: a way that what I'm seeing on film is correct.

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Speaker 3: Is I think that's It's one of the most valuable

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Speaker 3: things I get from this. And I'm like, okay, okay, boss,

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Speaker 3: Like you told me that this is something that you

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Speaker 3: want to work on, and that is fixed and that's

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Speaker 3: the good thing. Like we talked about, though, it was

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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of the things that we

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Speaker 3: are things that can be corrected. They're not guys just

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Speaker 3: getting your guys are not just getting beat out there.

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Speaker 3: And so we'll definitely get to see, you know, how

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Speaker 3: this defense adjusts and then how this offense adjust as well,

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Speaker 3: and even special teams.

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Speaker 4: I got something to share with the viewers and the

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Speaker 4: listeners who if you love, if you love to learn

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Speaker 4: about football and break things down Bill Belichick. Obviously, the

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Speaker 4: Patriots come into town, and Bill is notorious for not

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Speaker 4: giving anything to media that would be just be the

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Speaker 4: worst to have to cover that team, but he does,

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Speaker 4: he does do it. He's he supports. I won't I

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Speaker 4: won't say who was at at and T Stadium back

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Speaker 4: in the spring to see Taylor Swift m.

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Speaker 2: M m hm, So I didn't say that he was

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Speaker 2: also see he saw multiple shows. He's a he's a swiftie.

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing. But one thing that he does

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Speaker 4: do and if you if you're a football junkie, you'll

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Speaker 4: enjoy this, and even if you're not a junkie, but

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Speaker 4: you just want to learn a little bit. On the

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots site, you go to Video Multimedia, just

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Speaker 4: like when you go to Dallas Cowboys Dot com but

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Speaker 4: it's called Belichick Breakdown, and so his coaches showed that

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Speaker 4: he does each week. It's him and a host and

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Speaker 4: it's Bill at a teleprompter and they'll be I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: not a teleprompter, A tell a straighter and he he'll

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Speaker 4: do about five or six plays from the previous game.

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Speaker 4: So Belichick Breakdown, you'll find it on the video. I've

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Speaker 4: already watched the one from their win over the Jets

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Speaker 4: fifteen to ten. They're one and two now on the season.

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Speaker 4: But it's really it's really cool, and he doesn't go

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Speaker 4: into a lot of coach speak, but here's one of

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Speaker 4: the greatest football coaches of all time and he's breaking

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Speaker 4: down plays and so you know when you can pick

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Speaker 4: up a.

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Speaker 2: Little nugguget, Yeah, well I love that. Thank you Christy

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Speaker 2: for that. You know what, we are officially turning the

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Speaker 2: page here the Cardinals, who are they? We don't know,

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Speaker 2: don't know, you know.

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Speaker 4: The ones with the win over the gap, the ones

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Speaker 4: that we want to beat, the forty nine ers this weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's how we know them, and that's it. That's the

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Speaker 2: only affiliation we have with them from here on out

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Speaker 2: until the next time they have to play them. Other

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Speaker 2: than that, we're going to turn the page here on

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Speaker 2: the podcast. Starting tomorrow, we're going to talk about all

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Speaker 2: things Cowboys Patriots week four, talking about a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a homecoming for two guys you may or may

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Speaker 2: not remember, Will Gear and Ezekiel Elliott. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about some nuggets we got from the coordinators and coaches.

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Speaker 2: From that, we will give you the latest injury report

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Speaker 2: and practice report. You know that you're real when tay

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Speaker 2: Girls Talk, Boys Talk. We got you covered. Thank you

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Speaker 2: all so much for listening. Thank you ladies for talking

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Speaker 2: ball with us every day. Love doing it. Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys again. Go have a great day and we will

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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow. This has been Girls Talk, Boys Talk,

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Speaker 2: Have a fantastic, amazing, incredible day. Goodbye.

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