WEBVTT - “I’M A FORMER PICK UP ARTIST” 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.360 Yo, what's up? How's it going? 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.319 Yo? What's up? It's going good? 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:07.320 What's your name? 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:08.760 Oh? 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:09.800 Fuck? I didn't think of that. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:15.400 That's okay, I'm gonna call you, Uh Sam? 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.680 I like Sam? Sam is Sam is great? 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:19.880 Sam? 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:20.720 Okay? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.439 What's up? Flow? Life is good? I texted you that 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.680 I was eating quinoa salads and then it's delicious. Mm hmm. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:37.440 I was gonna crack open a kombucha and that's about. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.640 That's about what I've what I've got going on. How's 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.000 the how's the night? Are you still? 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:43.120 Like? 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.479 Were you in Japan? Are you still in Japan? 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.440 Sam? What? Uh? What's up? 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:48.680 Sam? 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:49.280 What? 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:49.320 What? 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.400 Uh? Would you want to talk about today? 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:52.920 Uh? 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:53.840 Well? 0:00:54.640 --> 0:01:00.440 I I mean, I mean there, let's see things I 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.360 wanted to talk about. I I low key wish I 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:10.319 was a girl. Mm hmm. There's that. Yeah, maybe that's 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.160 what I want to talk about. I'll take that. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:13.640 Mm hm. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.840 So I'm a I mean, I mean, you know, it's 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.640 the way my voice sounds is like I'm a boy, 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.680 you know, and like I don't know, I've always always 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.640 felt like kind of kind of different, kind of like 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.920 I was never into sports and shit like that, and 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.880 lately It's like I just moved to a I moved 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:47.319 to a very like progressive town. I'm very young, and 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.600 now that I'm around a bunch of people who are like, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.640 oh shit, you can be you can be different than 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.600 what what you what the world told you you were 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.200 when you were born. And I'm kind of like, kind 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:04.360 of fucked up about back because it's like, I don't 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.800 really know what to think. It sounds like a lot 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:10.560 of efforts, but yeah, I don't know. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.920 No, definitely way more effort than being a guy. A 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.320 lot more products you're gonna have. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.359 You're gonna need a lot more. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.920 Shelf space on your shower. For sure. You're gonna need 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.720 to start using I don't know if you're I don't 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.919 know if you've been using three and one shampoo, conditioner, 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.799 body wash. But you're gonna have to uh uh, the 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.040 three separate things. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.000 I got curly hair, So yeah. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.080 Okay, yeah, okay, all right, So you're already doing okay 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.000 on the products front. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.320 I'm doing all right on the products. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.240 That's so okay. So where did you grow up? 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:48.160 I grew up in a small Midwest college town. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.119 Mm hmm, So tell me this. So, okay, the thing 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.959 of like, yet, you grow up in like a small 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.160 town and you have this idea of the universe, and 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.000 then you leave and then you meet these other people 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.960 you have this ol experience, and you're like, whoa, what 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.959 the fucking fucking the universe expands infinitely beyond whatever what 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.760 I thought it was in my small town. You're like, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.120 and you said that your reaction to this was that 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.040 it fucked you up, not that it like excited you. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.880 Why why do you think this fucked you up as 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.000 opposed to exciting you. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.040 Oh, that's that's a good question. I mean, let me think. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.160 I mean, I guess right now, I feel fucked up 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.080 about it because it's like there's a lot of things 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:40.320 I want. They're new, they're like that are really easy 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.720 to get and hard to get in the same way, Like, 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.640 I don't know. It's like now, you know, if I 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:57.280 wanted to fucking become a girl, I could and I 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.280 don't know. It's it sucks me up because it's like 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.760 I feel it feels like there's a lot of people 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.080 around me now who like really did know what they 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.000 want and they got that, and it's like I don't 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:08.720 know what I want? 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.800 Interesting, you know, Yeah, no, I feel when you're around 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:18.400 a lot of like, uh, decisive people, you it can no, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.560 it totally fucks you up. You're like, oh, fuck, am 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.840 I supposed to know exactly what I want to do? 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.039 What are you indecisive about? Like whether or not you 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:28.839 want to be a girl? 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.919 I guess so, I mean ideally, uh, in my opinion, 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.719 the ideal world is one where gender doesn't exist. Like, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.320 I think it's totally unnecessary. I think it causes so 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:46.359 much more harm than the good and like, you know, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.919 like but but I don't know. It's it's like a 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.560 thing that for it's you know, literally binary literally forces 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.240 you to decide mm hmm. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:03.520 I mean you can do I mean, listen, this thing 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.640 where where you're you've decided like, oh, I can exist 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:14.320 outside of the realm of of of of what the 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:18.680 universe and what society has set as being the thing. 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.040 I'm very pro that. I'm very pro. I mean, I mean, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.000 I'm very pro that. Do you The problem is that 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:31.440 you do, like yes, like in choosing that path, you 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:40.520 do inevitably have to deal with like the inevitable cons 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.719 of doing that. Yeah, you know, so I feel you 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.080 on that there are kind of inevitable cons of going 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.000 against the grain, but they also provide you with pros. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:53.680 But the good I mean, the good thing for you 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:54.800 is that you can I mean you can just you 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.919 can do whatever you want, like if you want to, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.840 especially Like, Okay, so you're in this where where did 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.080 you move? Two from the small town? 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:08.080 Uh we'll say, we'll say a gay West coast city. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.320 There's a couple and I stay there elder. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:10.719 Yeah. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:15.400 Yeah, So if you're in this gay West Coast city, Like, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:16.840 how old are you? 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.480 I'm fucking eighteen. I'm in high school. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.160 Bro, oh you're eighteen? 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:24.040 Yeah? 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.120 Oh shit? Do you just move there for college? 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.159 Uh? Yeah I am. I'm probably gonna go to college here, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.360 and like yeah, okay, yeah, I just need to kind 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.520 of get out of the Midwest. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.880 What I mean, Shit, fucking perfect time, just uh if 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.719 like but yeah, right, because like in your gut, if 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.120 you're if this is something you want to try, and 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.479 if it's because like if if in your gut this 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.680 is something that you wanted to try, and like you 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:54.719 kind of felt. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.279 It the whole time, Like I mean, give it a 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.200 give it a try. Right, You're in a new place, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.159 You're in a new environment. Yeah, yeah, I mean fuck 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:06.920 fuck dog, like give it a try to see how 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:07.320 you feel. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.040 Yeah, actually, yeah, I guess it's like dealing with the 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.040 like no matter where am I, even if it's like whatever, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.520 I just moved, it's like there's people who know me, 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.480 and it's like I have to deal with like being 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.000 vulnerable with people I don't want to like like like 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.800 asking so much of people to like be like yo, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.400 totally change your perception of me. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:42.760 You know. Well, so it's it's hard. It's hard, right 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:48.360 because you can't really like it, guess, and forget about 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:55.760 like the whatever, the stupid the politics around like being 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.840 transgender or whatever. Just the general idea of like like 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.240 figure out like this, just the general idea of like 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.920 you really have very little control of other people's perception 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.400 of you, you know what I mean? 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.800 Like supsetting? 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:21.640 Why why is that upsetting? It just is like a 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:26.200 fact of reality that you have no control of other 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:30.960 people's perceptions of you. Right, it's a factive reality. But 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.360 I but if and if I think if you're going 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.280 to take that fact, you don't necessarily have to take 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:47.440 that fact and look at it as inherently upsetting. But 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:52.880 there's another fact that you've recently has But this other 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.880 fact of reality has come into your life which is exciting, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:04.880 which is that like the the the idea of who 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.360 you are and other people's perceptions of you doesn't have 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.200 to be the way in which you like live your life, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:12.400 you know what I mean? 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:13.880 Yeah? 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.560 So, and that's and that's a that's a it's a 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.520 bit of a terrifying But why well why am I 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.560 saying it's terrifying. It's just a fact of reality. It 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:25.800 can be another, it can be an exciting thing. Right, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.240 So if you want to look at these two facts, right, 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:34.800 you can't decide other people's perception of you and just 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.320 be like, I'm okay with that. And then also other 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:45.360 people can't decide my perception of myself and that's great. Yeah, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:51.480 So do with those two things what you will, right? 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.120 And what within those two things can you do to 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.800 make yourself feel just like proud and happy of the 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:00.400 life that you're living. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:07.880 Yeah, that's true. I guess I guess going forth would 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:15.240 help be be deciding something, just doing anything about it 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:20.720 could help mm hmm yeah yeah yeah. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:28.000 I Well, so what what about mm hmmm mmmm? What 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.120 do you what are you most? What are you most 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:29.679 afraid of. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:41.600 I'm most afraid of. I mean, I'm pretty afraid of 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:48.720 people thinking I'm evil, people thinking you're people, people taking 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:55.720 people seeing me. Uh. I mean, I guess it's kind 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.000 of self to be like I'm afraid of however people seems. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:04.480 But it's like like whatever, I'm afraid that people don't 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:05.800 see me how I feel me? 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:11.760 You know, Yeah, why are you afraid of people seeing 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.800 that you're evil? Do you let me? Well? Do you 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.000 do you think you're evil? 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.280 I think I kind of do, Like I kind of 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.760 think I'm kind of evil, like because a lot of 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.440 time I just I'm just like I should do whatever 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.520 the hell I want, which is kind of evil. And 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:38.600 it's like I don't know because because it like, okay, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.320 this is another thing, holy fucked side tangent. But I 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.000 low key don't feel empathy that often, which is kind 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.200 of fuck though. But it's like it's like, yeah, I 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.560 don't know, I don't know. It's like I'm trying to 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.880 my my my values are like you know, whatever, be 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.440 nice and shit, but it's like I don't feel it 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.000 in my heart that much, which is kind of great today, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:02.920 But I don't know. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:10.719 Yeah, interesting mm hmm I mean, if you want to 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.240 subscribe to this, like okay, just to keep this like 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:19.480 theory that this uh thread going right, if you want 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:25.959 to subscribe to the idea that the universe is fairly 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:33.120 chaotic and subjective, uh yeah, and you can be whatever 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.440 you want and do what everyone and like whatever, like 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:41.400 you kind of get to decide what's evil, right. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.480 Mm hmm okay, mm hm, so you can you get. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.760 To decide like you get you can, you can if 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.240 and if you want to and I just meet. What 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.440 I think is the most beneficial is to like look 0:12:54.480 --> 0:13:00.400 at yourself and go like, okay, how do I best 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:06.440 like operate within my own like framework of of whatever. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:08.200 You know. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:09.960 I don't know if that means anything? 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.240 No, no, yeah, yeah, what words? 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:18.280 Yeah? So like I don't know, I don't know, just 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:22.760 try your just try your best. I guess, yeah, I 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.040 guess I kind of yeah, I don't know if this 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.000 makes sense? Am I being crazy? 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.880 I think that makes sense? I think them all right, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.080 it's kind of like who gives a fuck? But yeah 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.680 m hm m hmm. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:43.360 Okay, was this helpful? 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.480 I think I think this is helpful. 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:47.240 Okay. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.080 I think it's nice to just talk about it. Because 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.120 it's like it's like, what the fuck I don't talk 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.440 about this is like not this is veral Like there's 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.560 like two there's like two people I've talked about about that. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.360 I don't know. I think it's helpful. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.120 Yeah, it's easier. So it's it's easier said than done 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.360 to not care about other people's perception of you, hun 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.560 because that's I mean, are like we're like biologically wired 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:17.920 to do that. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.800 Yeah, no, I think about that all the time. It's 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.920 like it's like it's like if you do something wrong, 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.640 it's like people would fucking kill you, and it's like, yeah, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.160 that's how we that's how we would stay alive. That's that. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.200 Shit's fascinating. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.000 Yes, it is true. Our animal brain it's okay. Yeah, 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.880 our animal brains subscribe to the idea that we need 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.600 to care what other people think about because us, because 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.320 that's how we used to live. And like if you 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:48.400 got out ousted from the tribe, you couldn't survive. But 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:53.480 we live in uh a half animal half human world 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:58.200 and the human evolved part of your brain is like, 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.600 oh shit, like I can receive the universe above. I've 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.920 evolved is an organism to be able to perceive the 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.440 universe beyond the rules of my biology, and I can 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.480 cheat them and work with it. It's kind of fucking 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:13.960 crazy if you think about. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.160 It, it's crazy. It makes it sound pretty cool. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.680 Yeah, so, yes, it's true. So you can use your 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.960 higher human intellect to go above your biological need to 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.080 have everyone's approval and then enter, you know, become an 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:34.240 evolved being who just kind of lives in their own orbis. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.520 Yeah. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.960 Yeah, but then you know, be a girl if you 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:42.720 so desire. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.280 All right, Therapy Geto told me to tell me to 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.360 be a girl. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:50.960 It cool. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:56.480 Yeah, just do do what you want. Dog, What were 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:57.000 you gonna say? 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.440 All right, it'd be cool if we can. I'll just 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.160 be lizards and like lick our eyes and ship. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.920 That. Well. Well, this is this is like my whole thing. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.560 I made a whole video about this. But now being 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.840 a humans good. It's uh, there's gifts, there's there's there's 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.680 gift there's as with everything, it's a double edged sword, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.760 but uh, I'll take the gifts over the over the 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:25.200 cons Sam. Yeah, is there anything else you want to 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:37.120 say to the people of the computer before we go. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.320 Go to a hardcore punk show? Go see go or 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.440 just go see live music. There's a lot of really 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:46.640 hot people and bad music to be seen. 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.440 I love bad music. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:55.160 I do too, Thank you, sir, Thank you. Mile. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.960 Hello, Hi, Hello, what's up? What's your name? My name 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:10.560 is Drew, Drew, Drew Carrey. Yeah, Drew, you texted me 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:16.159 and you said I've been calling around for lawyers about 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:21.399 me being hacked because weird things have been happening and 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.880 people have been recording my phone conversations. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.199 Yeah, I know, right, I don't know. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.919 I have no idea. I'm perplexed. I'm perplexed by Yes, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.000 are you airsta? I'm not a lawyer. I'm a I 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.280 don't know what I am right. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.720 It's still it's something i'd like to talk about. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:46.439 Okay, great, Okay, cool. I'm perplexed. I don't I'm confused. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.040 I'm scared, please. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.120 As am I so about? I don't know if you 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.119 can see the text messages from like a couple of 0:17:55.119 --> 0:18:02.400 months ago, but yeah, about almost three years ago now, 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.960 I've been uh like I was starting on my business 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:16.440 being uh like consulting firm like life coaching, and uh 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:22.680 called up I was cold calling, called up this one guy, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.800 and uh, well, we started arguing because he tried to 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.880 sell to me when I was trying to I guess 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:30.800 selp him. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.200 Okay, stop here, hold on. So you're a life you're 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:35.040 a life coach. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.120 No, not anymore. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.600 This is like three years ago, dude. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.960 Okay, okay, okay, okay. So at the time, at the time, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.000 you're a life coach and you start cold calling people, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:46.919 how do okay, where do you find the people to 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:51.240 cold call? So like, how do you find people who 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.320 whose lives are going terribly so they need a life coach? 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.280 Like where do you get these leads? 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:58.160 Uh? 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:04.680 Well, someone them I got from, uh, the coach that 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:12.119 I hired. H And also like like friends, like like 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.840 me calling around my friends uh and then giving Like 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.440 there's a thing called three for free, so you help 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.280 out three people or three to five people, ten people 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:29.080 or whatever, and then you ask them for three referrals 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:34.000 and then yeah, so that rabbit hole. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.000 What kind of life coaching were you doing? 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:45.320 Uh? That was helping specifically my niche was just at 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.680 the time, it was pretty much anyone. I didn't have 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:57.560 a niche, but I was helping musicians like that were 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:04.080 that were like stuck. Yeah, that were like oh man, 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.840 I don't. Yeah, they were like they like musicians, they 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.520 are really creative people, but like they don't know the 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:21.000 business side of it. And I'm very familiar with business 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.960 and selling because I was a nightclub promoter and a 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.680 strip club promoter in Las Vegas for like ten years, 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.959 so like I knew how to like sell music. I 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.280 worked with all of the I worked for every single 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.600 nightclub and strip club in Las Vegas for over the 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.320 course of like nine or ten years. So I thought 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:50.760 I could bring something to the table and uh yeah, 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:58.920 and then called up you know, some people, and then 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:02.920 I got it into a heated argument old hola. 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:07.040 Hold on, Well, we're gonna trust me, We're gonna get there. 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.119 But I have more questions about your life. You have 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.200 an interesting life. Man. We're gonna get there, thank you, 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.639 But I have I have more questions for you before 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.920 we get into what's why your phone has been hacked? Okay, 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:24.920 so you worked as a strip club promoter for ten years. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.680 We're gonna go through your entire life. I need to 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:32.479 fill an hour of podcasts, and I feel like we 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.600 can do it with you. I'm gonna fill as much 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.520 of the of the you like as soon as you 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.720 said you said a few things in the past two minutes, 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.400 so I was like, we've got at least forty five 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:49.800 minutes of podcasts to do. Okay, I'm honored you. How 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.479 did you get involved as a strip club promoter? And 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:54.520 what does that even look like? 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.720 When I was I don't know, like sixteen years old 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:08.320 or seventeen years old, I stumbled across the television show 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:16.359 The Pickup Artist, and I was a loser, you know. 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.360 I was like, never had a girlfriend or anything. I mean, 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.359 not many people have when they're like sixteen or seventeen 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.719 years old, but I was pretty desperate, and I was like, right, 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.000 somebled across I stumbled across the TV show and they're like, 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.520 oh my gosh, I can't believe you to learn how 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.240 to pick up girls Ormano as a seventeen year old 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.160 or yeah, I was sixteen when that show came out. 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:39.359 I was like, oh my gosh, you can. And then 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.119 I bought the books and then I went to a 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.880 teen club when I was sixteen. 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:48.320 Wait you went to Wait you went to a teenage 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:49.840 pickup artist club. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.160 No, I mean it wasn't a pickup artist club. It's 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.040 just a nightclub for sixteen year old. 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.600 Oh oh teen clubs? Yeah, oh you went to a 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:58.000 teen cup? 0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:58.240 Yeah? 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.359 Oh okay, yeah yeah, dude, yeah, that's funny. I no, no, 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.960 I went to I dude, No, I went to shit 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.119 like that when I was a kid. It's so like 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.800 as an adult, so weird looking back on it, like 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.320 a like an in Ocean City, Maryland, there was this 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:15.919 place called H two. Oh have you heard of that place? Yeah? 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.720 No, I went to a place called Inferno and Pontiac 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.720 when I was sixteen. Okay, I don't think it's around anymore. 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:26.640 Okay, so you're okay, So. 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.200 I was nervous wreck yeah yeah. 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.480 Okay, so you're sixteen you go to one of those 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:35.119 like weird teenage nightclubs. You just read a bunch of 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:42.520 pickup Artistry book? Yeah please got fat? Yeah sure, okay, 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:43.440 we'll keep going. 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:50.080 And the Mystery Method. And when I turned twenty one, 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.080 my friend was like, I want to move to Las Vegas. 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.480 And I was like, oh my gosh, yes, that sounds 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.400 like a great idea because I wanted at that time, 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:00.800 I wanted to be pick up coach. 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:02.560 Interesting. 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.200 Yeah, And so at twenty one I moved to Las 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.199 Vegas because I thought I could be a you know, 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.800 pick up coach, hown my own craft pick up girls? 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:22.520 Were you doing? Were you doing like like when you 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.040 were eighteen or seventeen or whatever? Were you coaching other 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.400 high school kids at the teen clubs had to pick 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:30.000 up girls? 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:38.320 No? No, I was. I was a nervous wreck. I 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.359 only went that one time because I was like so 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.800 much of a nervous wreck that I didn't go to 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:46.480 another club until I was like eighteen. 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.320